Trans Musician, SOPHIE, Is Dead To Me!

Well she's with the stars now, so I guess she got her wish to be close to the moon.

Yeah that’s code for jumping off the roof. RIP dude.

He was a talented music artist. However, his face was a nightmare of fillers and implants. I was looking forward to seeing him morph into the Bride of Wildenstein.

Good lord he looks like the Bogdanoffs

I’ll never forgive him for assaulting the public with his trans titties on the video for IT’S OKAY TO CRY

Oops

Sophie was a visionary musician, this is actually a huge loss for music. Of course most DLers will just make fun of her for being trans. I agree the reported circumstances of her death are odd, though.

It's okay to cry.

Yes, it’s a sad fact that this will just become another trans bashing thread by the usual loons.

They is in Heav3n now.

I hope God tells they that sound effects weren't enough; they needed a beat, some lyrics and some catchy hooks.

PONYBOY was an awesome track

He could pass in dim lighting, lasers pointed in the eyes of the audience, and from at least 100 feet away.

We

already

knew

Your headline was not sufficient r12.

Your first mistake was to omit the word “trans”, because the aged decrepit Judy Garland worshipping wrecks of Datalounge don’t who SOPHIE is.

Or was.

That's a real bummer. Sophie was an excellent artist.

Celia Rubinstein was a friend to all mankind.....

WHO!!????!!?

[quote] Slipping and falling of a wall while watching the moon? That’s a lesbian’s death.

Guanyin and Artemis speaking through the Moon told her her noble work on Earth was done and SPLAT. Done.

Bummer, 34 is too young. RIP.

"I want to touch the moon" "Er... that's not possible, Sophie." "DON'T TELL ME I CAN'T DO SOMETHING YOU TRANSPHOBE" "OK Sophie" "IT'S SOPHIE IN CAPITALS YOU TRANSPHOBIC SHIT. C A P I T A L S S O P H I E I WILL NOT BE IGNORED" "OK SOPHIE maybe get down?" "WHY DO YOU HATE TRANS???" ARRRRGGHHHHH

Drugs.

More likely suicide

Who?

A "Once in a BLUE Moon" unfortunate accident.

R10 - yes, this just sounds like sound effects strung together. Same thing with PonyBoy.

Y'all need to have higher standards. This sounds like shit.

He was actually cute before he fucked his face up with the tranny starter pack: lip filler / cheekbone implants / hair dye

Ex-gay man, dead.

Loved her avant-garde electronica. R.I.P. to SOPHIE. I wonder how Kim Petras is doing over this news? She's been silent for a while on social media.

The parodies have already begun

Music sounds like shit, but that's my opinion. More power to you if you jam out to this.

Sad. If she'd fallen on her face she would have bounced.

R26 - derivative, minimalist sound effects strung together is no longer avant-garde. It's lazy, unimaginative and shows no talent.

Here's one of her 'hits' Lemonade.

I'm sorry - this is garbage and just bad art. There's no 'there'.

He wasn’t gay. His ex gf spoke out that he was using the trans stuff to get noticed

^ so the music itself wasn't good enough? he/she/they/it needed a gimmick?

Link, r31.

Was Sophie ever known under another name? Describing Sophie as "Madonna's producer" seemed odd considering Sophie only worked on Bitch I'm Madonna.

Btw according to The Guardian's music editor, Sophie's management team advised "please refrain from using pronouns when referring to SOPHIE". Does that mean Sophie should only ever be referred to as Sophie and terms like "her first album" or "their first album" are to be replaced by "Sophie's first album"?

Can't say I'm that impressed with what I've heard, especially when you compare it with Ellis Bextor and B Hawkins,

Damn, bitch was hung!

So sick of this type of shitty pussy ass music.

[quote]"True to her spirituality she had climbed up to watch the full moon and slipped and fell," they posted online.

I win again!

Stunning and brave

You’re wrong r31

SOPHIE and Tzef Montana were both trannies with they’s dick and balls intact.

Who ????

And nothing of value was lost.

At least, Sophie attempted to do something with his/her life, other than being "trans". Most of the trans folks I'm aware of seem allergic to actual employment.

You mean this same Tzef Montana r39? Yes Tzef is an MTF. Tzef claims Sophie was a “transbian” aka hetero male and not attracted to MTFs.

The performative online grief is strong for this one.

Did they call the king's horses, and the king's men? Am I to assume that they were unable to put her together again?

I am heartbroken that the journalists at Vogue didn’t do their job and confirm these trannies were The Future Of Queer Love r43

God needed another Transy.

Rest in peace young dude.

Wonderful news, the modeling agency that signed Ella Emhoff and Amanda Gorman just announced their new acquisition- The Corpse of Sophie!

Agreed r13.

What is up with you ladies who flip out when you are scared you won’t get “credit” for your op? especially when all you did was notice something in the news.

Therapy, people. Try it.

On a forum populated with unfucked transbashing showtunes fanatics this thread was always going to be ugly

R50 he is getting off easy, a shit music is fucking awful...and the face...and the boring tranny shit.

SOPHIE’s dead name was Samuel Long r34

I don't know they/them.

R50 took a wrong turn if she wasn’t expecting pointless bitchery here 💅🏻💅🏽💅🏿

Her penis was huge. So sad now.

I always suspected Sophie B Hawkins was Trans.

[quote]I always suspected Sophie B Hawkins was Trans.

Damn! I Wish I Was Your Brother

Do dead names reactivate when the holder of the name dies? I'm not sure of the etiquette. What did Emily Post say about dead names?

Incidentally, an unknown British actor who apparently has a big YouTube following is now a trans woman. The agent's page has been updated with the new name of Abigail Thorn but has "goatee" on facial characteristics section and baritone on their singing skills.

Sad but I’ve never even heard of her.

Cause of death (falling off something due to wanting to look a full moon because Sophie was pursuing Sophie's spirituality) is rather odd. May well be true as is. But what exactly did Sophie fall off of? A roof? A hill? A ladder? A cliff? I wonder if there will be a follow up report from the coroner? I'm curious to know if drugs played a role. Or if this was actually suicide and Sophie's spokesperson was trying to conceal it with the "pursuing spirituality" story?

I've posted regularly about Sophie on DL. As recently as this week, I post It's OK to Cry in a thread.

Sophie was very talented and out there - truly avant-grade. I'm too old to appreciate the harder stuff. R.I.P.

The news sites have to be careful on how they report suicides due to the copycat phenomenon.

who is this?

It's not the media that brought up the slip and fall and the pursuing spirituality but Sophie's label Transgressive in this tweet and public statement about Sophie. I think the label should have just focussed on Sophie's music and impact it had rather than bring up nature of death. Such an odd statement and makes me wonder what really happened. Because until this morning I never heard of her. I'm listening to her music right now. It's OK, but not to my taste. But I get why some were into her. She certainly has some dedicated stans. Combine Stans, trans and an early death under odd circumstances and you get Twitter really abuzz.

[quote] they’s dick and balls intact.

I wonder if the did anything with them? Did one penetrate the other?

Was one of them menstruating? What was the other doing while the they was on the wall?

R50, what's ugly is the corpse Sophie, aka Samuel Long, left for the authorities to have to deal with in a foreign country he shouldn't be in right now and at a time when he should not have been out - Greece currently has a Covid curfew between 9pm and 5am.

But, we know that "climbed up to watch the full moon and slipped" is just a "poetic" way of saying committed suicide.

Oh Sophie, don't let's ask for the moon, we have the stars

[quote]But, we know that "climbed up to watch the full moon and slipped" is just a "poetic" way of saying committed suicide.

I think accidentally overdose. Maybe began taking drugs as way to find creativity, that morphed into addiction and she succumbed to it.

This is a good example of the power and hold that the trans lobby seems to have over even the bluest of blue chip media organizations. If you read the New York Times death notice (which made their online front page) you would barely have known that this artist was born male. And maybe that doesn’t matter, but the article also covers up the fact that this was an obvious suicide. Depriving the world of the ability to critically evaluate whether this person would have had a happier life if she had just been okay with being a gay man. Lots of trans suicides like this one happen.

I like some of her music. The loss of life is sad regardless of pronouns.

R59 I'm sorry to hear that.

He was attractive before he got his fey voice and make-up.

This creature looked like Maggie Smith, circa 1969.

He looked like young Norma at the end of Sunset Blvd, the musical.

Yes, [italic][bold]musical[/italic][/bold], Glenn.

He killed himself. “Climbed up a mountain to watch the full moon” LOL. Written like a true tranny....delusional

He was aiming for The Marcel Wave!

He did a topple-is off the Acropolis!

He went to Athens in order to be Byronic.

Suicide, wtf is this moon and slipped BS. These lies have to stop. Trans people need help. Stop normalizing these they them whatever.

I’m surprised the trannies didn’t take the opportunity to make this guy a martyr if he did in fact kill himself. Literal violence!

Chelsea Manning was a martyr and made about five suicide attempts.

At least THIS transvestite wasn't a prostitute.

He had a dumb ass, but he couldn't live forever.

"Specialness" leads to death.

[quote]I’m surprised the trannies didn’t take the opportunity to make this guy a martyr if he did in fact kill himself. Literal violence!

Do you know how many trans women of color have been murdered today??? Priorities!

[quote]I am heartbroken that the journalists at Vogue didn’t do their job and confirm these trannies were The Future Of Queer Love [R43]

Don't worry, GLAAD and Human Rights Campaign will!

Actually, R59, Abigail Thorn appears to have an impressive, educational YouTube channel called Philosophy Tube.

From Wikipedia: Abigail Thorn (formerly Oliver Thorn; born 24 April 1993) is a British actress and YouTuber who produces the YouTube channel Philosophy Tube. The channel began in 2013, when Thorn sought to provide free lessons in philosophy in the wake of the 2012 increase in British tuition fees. Her videos discuss philosophy through a left-wing perspective often informed by developments in contemporary politics.

Since 2018, the channel has become more theatrical, and often makes use of dramatic studio sets, lighting, costuming and makeup. Philosophy Tube has been positively received by critics, and as of January 2021 the channel has around 830,000 subscribers. In 2019, Thorn hosted a livestream on Twitch in which she read plays from the Complete Works of Shakespeare for the mental health charity Samaritans. The stream lasted five days, featured a number of guests, and raised over £100,000 for the Samaritans.

Thorn publicly came out as a transgender woman in January 2021.

Men. Abuse. Trauma.

A play about masculinity, anxiety, relationships, and Shrek.

He’s a Breadtuber r87, which automatically disqualified him from any serious discussion or consideration. These are the people that made Nick Parot aka Contrapoints a star. If that’s what passes a “intelligent and educational” in your corner of the universe, well...

No-one knows who this person is.

No-one.

Trans activists are claiming this was a hate crime, another trans murder.

What, by the cliff face?

[quote]PONYBOY was an awesome track. He could pass in dim lighting, lasers pointed in the eyes of the audience, and from at least 100 feet away.

R11 - Okay, that actually was really good. Other Sophie tracks you'd recommend?

OMG RIP

Was they taking a selfie?

r93 Faceshopping is Sophie's only other good song IMO. Granted, they are really really good songs. She was a genuinely talented artist with her own unique sound. Love the video for this one too.

Considering the lack to details surrounding her death, I wonder if it was staged. In many ways her whole persona was an art project, so maybe she detransitioned and/or wanted out of the public eye.

R88 34 minutes is too long

[quote] detransitioned

R96 Detransitioned already? David Bowie at least waited a couple of years before going back into the closet

R96 Transitioned to dead?

R96 - that was really good, too. Love the video. But, yeah, I see what you mean, now that I've listened to more of their stuff. It seems like they would have benefited from collaborating with someone who had a little more songwriting / songcraft technique.

I bet Sophie would have produced a really interesting Grace Jones album.

[quote] the article also covers up the fact that this was an obvious suicide. Depriving the world of the ability to critically evaluate whether this person would have had a happier life if she had just been okay with being a gay man.

R70 are you really suggesting you want a newspaper to speculate on a different cause of death? Based on what - how obvious it seems to you?? And then do a little small think piece on whether the person that has died would be happier if they hadn’t been trans. Within the text of the obituary? And you think you sound smart lol. You need to do something to turn your life around.

[quote] And you think you sound smart lol. You need to do something to turn your life around.

I'm not r70, but it sounds like you're really projecting big-time, hon.

This story is even in the NY Times and I don't get it. People are acting as if Taylor Swift or Lady Gaga died. What huge hits did Sophie have!? The trans lobby is ridiculous.

Sophie was really well known in the music world, r103, but did not have widespread popularity.

R76, I really thought that was Maggie Gyllenhaal via a filter.

[quote] "True to her spirituality she had climbed up to watch the full moon and slipped and fell," they posted online. "She will always be here with us."

I wonder what this PR firm rejected as an explanation for her obvious suicide before they settled on this oh-so-convincing one.

"True to her spirituality she drowned a deep well while trying to kiss her own reflection."

"True to her spirituality she ran straight into heavy traffic while racing to catch a falling star."

"True to her spirituality she was devoured by a pack of ravenous jackals while communing with nature."

What was on her iPod?

R70 - and to think how long gays were written in as 'longtime companion' and refused in the marriage section.

And within a few years - trans gets everything handed over on a platter.

Trans lobby is in full force on this one. Frankly No one the hell knows this is. I can't wait to see what else the Trans lobby and these cis binary crazies spin this as. Btw majority of the gay guys don't give a fuck about this as they should.

Are there any candid/red carpet pics of the cheek fillers? I suspect they were added in post production.

R76 Mary Brian

Never heard of he/her. VISIONARY? Puleaze.

[quote] And within a few years - trans gets everything handed over on a platter.

So that’s what this is about - jealousy.

[quote] the article also covers up the fact that this was an obvious suicide. Depriving the world of the ability to critically evaluate whether this person would have had a happier life if she had just been okay with being a gay man.

Or when a gay man kills himself - why didn’t he just change his lifestyle?

[quote] Trans activists are claiming this was a hate crime, another trans murder.

Link.

R114, one is a choice, the other isn't.

R113 Jealous about freaks lol 😆 its about pointing out mental issues and false pretext that Trans they it hide behind. Playing the poor victim card.

Louis Vuitton was a Fan

No, R113, it’s about how mainstream society are sheep.

As R108 says, we put in the hard work over 30 years but these trans loons rode in on our coattails.

God’s little bird

[quote] As [R108] says, we put in the hard work over 30 years but these trans loons rode in on our coattails.

The black community said the same thing about the gay community. Why you wish for others to have a hard time just because you did screams bullying. Grow up.

[quote] its about pointing out mental issues and false pretext that Trans they it hide behind.

The psychiatric community disagrees. If you don’t agree with them then homosexuality is also a mental illness, which is what conservatives say about gays. They say we lobbied for it to be taken off the DSM. Consider what you’re saying.

[quote] No one the hell knows this is.

Oh, dear.

[quote]The psychiatric community disagrees. If you don’t agree with them then homosexuality is also a mental illness, which is what conservatives say about gays.

The psych community used to support lobotomies, combatant torture, and repressed memories numbnuts. They can be and have been wrong. Ever hear of institutional capture?

He here is r110, on video.

Two incredibly tall trannies with massive jaw lines. Theys don’t pass as women at all.

Gay, straight, trans - suicide is always a sad way to go. I suspect that drugs were involved.

It's the family left behind who now will suffer.

R80 Right. If it is ever confirmed to be suicide they'll jump on the chance to say "This is what YOU did! All you cis monsters bullied yet another innocent angel to death." Then quote statistics on trans suicides and why it's because "cis scum" makes the world such an unpleasant place for them to live.

R125 Aw. Seemed like a nice person with a gracious demeanor.

r122 Go back to Tumblr, little girl, this is a place for gay men.

And carpet munchers with a vagina r129

Lezzies have always been a part of Datalounge

Sophie wasn't killed by the fall - Sophie's girlfriend Evita Manji was able to sit with Sophie and tell Sophie that she loved Sophie and that Sophie needed to keep fighting, but Sophie died and they had to wait 90 minutes for the fire engine to arrive to "get Sophie out" of wherever Sophie landed.

Evita Manji may sound like Drag Race contestant but it appears Evita Manji is not Evita Manji's stage name.

Well, I was wrong in thinking moon gazing was some flowery word for suicide. Mea Culpa.

So SOPHIE was just a transvestite who liked pussy

All he was was a bloke in a dress

I am so disappointed that he was not The Future Of Queer Love

R131, the Mail article says it took the fire brigade 90 minutes to get Sophie out, not that it took 90 minutes for the fire engine to arrive.

R131 - so she was trying to take a picture of the moon and fell to her death? The moon's in the goddamn sky - why would you need to lean over the edge of a building for that?

Except if you were trying to GET YOUR DAMN FACE in the pic!

This is a selfie-inflicted death, if not suicide.

And please don't let this one-note become the Selena for trans, cuz I remember that bullshit 25 years ago. Someone in a niche market all of a sudden became a star with all of this faux grief.

R133, Sophie was queer. "Queer" doesn't mean gay, silly. It means "precious".

Credit where it’s due, Selena had a gorgeous voice and a great commercial sound.

R125 The transvestite sounds drugged-up.

Either that or they're overwhelmed by that bald creature with enormous rocket-breasts.

So, some hack, asshole misogynist who LARPed as a “woman” for kink and profit is dead and…people are sad about this?

R135 release your bitterness lol. Holding onto that for 25years? Yikes some of you people have serious damage.

R125 I don’t think Sophie was trying to ‘pass’. Your little gate keeping bit doesn’t work sorry.

R140 you are the bitter one. Go to your trans world AND BULLY people there.

Memories

Do you pass for an actual woman r140? Are you pretty?

A tranny "icon", that probably fewer than 50 people had ever heard of, threw himself to his death because the hard reality that it is impossible to switch male DNA to female and therefore impossible to truly change gender was too much to reconcile with his severe mental illness.

She sounds like so many other contemporary pop artists. I don't get what was avant garde about her.

Do the anti trans loons have a B squad that take the Sunday shift or something? I know they’re generally kinda dumb and less able to understand complex sentences than your average person but today is really something. It’s like a masterclass in under-achievement.

R146 Sure Jan 🖕

She looks like Shaun Mendes.

[quote]The loss of life is sad regardless of pronouns.

I condole xyt.

The girlfriend at R131 could do better.

R150 the girlfriend sat there and sang to this trans creature as it transformed into a starry butterfly 🦋

This whole thing is a sham story spinned to create a false martyr for a mental patient who frankly needed help.

Stunning and SPLAT!

R140 - I'm not bitter about Selena's undeserved success and elevation to martyr star. I'm just being real.

Just like I still know that Hootie and the Blowfish were a shit band and they were popular because they bought up 30 minute informercials on VH1 and other places to promote the band before the album release. It was ridiculous - and so was their success.

I don't like to see mediocrity elevated. And if you want to feel safe, don't even whisper the name Garth Brooks in my presence.

I'm going to jump right into the rabbit hole and say that yes, Sophie is dead but Sophie was only a persona and no body, as in no corpse, will ever be found. Samuel just got tired of his high maintenance trans persona and will come back with a new one, a very manly crooner named Dick Trason.

Never heard of her before and don’t care that she was trans, but good god, her music is TERRIBLE. Couldn’t make it halfway through an of the linked tracks above. Just abysmal. Shockingly horrendous.

Time to throw on the OBCR of Henry, Sweet Henry as a palate cleanser STAT.

So bizarre. I just discovered her music a week ago and now she’s dead.

He’s dead r156

Climbed up where? Sophie was on a balcony. So she climbed up where to see the moon? Huh?

"A police spokesperson in Athens confirmed that Sophie slipped and fell from the balcony of an apartment where she was staying and no foul play was suspected in her death. The person spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the investigation is still ongoing."

They are suppressing the coroner's report from the autopsy after the dead transvestite had their stomach pumped.

Did you express that correctly? How does one suppress a coroner's report from an autopsy since the autopsy goes INTO the coroner's report and not vice versa

If a person has a penis, he’s a man.

The Story Of SOPHIE: A SOPHIE Documentary

Not a surprise that he had a distant and cold father

thanks for the documentary post.

Artistic

Immaterial Girl

I have become my father, "This music is a bunch of bips and bops, turn this noise off".