In & Out: The 1997 Movie

It's now 2021, and same sex marriage is legal. So, no, it didn't hurt us.

I thought it was funny in the context of the era

Matt Dillon winning an Oscar? Please.

It was the last movie I saw at a drive in.

A drive-in played a gay movie? That in and of itself was progress.

I think it’s hilarious. Joan Cusack is absolute genius in it.

Little Girl about the marriage: “My mom says it won’t last.”

Debbie Reynolds: “Your Mom’s an alcoholic.”

I do think it killed Kevin Kline’s career as a lead due to stereotyping and typecasting.

It has aged but it came along at the right time. I went to a test screening in Times Square and the audience lost its collective mind over the kiss between Kevin and Tom. You couldn't hear the dialogue after it for five minutes.

R5. It was in the SF Bay Area

In 1997 this was considered ground breaking, a Gay-themed, mainstream rom-com with big name stars was unheard of

It hurt Tom Selleck’s feelings that people thought he was gay.

FUCK Barbra Streisand! ... And You!

Tom Hanks inspired it with publicly outing his beloved teacher with 💘 at the Oscars.

I liked it. I liked Rudnick's use of the In & Out concept.

He first presented the notion that the Mouth was used to accept items into the body and the Anus used to remove items from the body.

And then he gave I think at least two instances where the Mouth is used to eject items from the body (but no spoken examples of when the Anus is used to accept items into the body).

The rotary phone bit still makes me laugh.

r3 But consider the competition:

Glenn Close: This is Cameron's first nomination and he's in extremely good company. Tonight he joins fellow best actor nominee Paul Newman for "Coot", Clint Eastwood for "Codger", Michael Douglas for "Primary Urges", and Steven Seagal for "Snowball in Hell".

"It hurt Tom Selleck’s feelings that people thought he was gay."

But HE IS, Blanche! HE IS!

IS EVERYBODY GAAAAAY?!?!?!?

Kevin Kline is beautiful in that, and always a comic genius, in films and theater.

What a fabulous window treatment!

It was a contractual obligation!!!

[quote] I do think it killed Kevin Kline’s career

I don't care too much about him personally.

But he starred in this clever gay-positive Paul Rudnick movie and then starred in that awful gay-negative, disappointing, hopeless, closeted, lame and spineless Cole Porter movie afterwards.

Yes, it had stereotypes, but was ultimately heartwarming and funny. It was groundbreaking for its time, kind of like Will and Grace in that era; a bit dated now, and maybe a cringey moment here and there, but still worth watching and had an overall positive effect on society to get used to the idea of this reality being normal and okay.

Joan Cusack was hilarious. Great comedic role for her, but she sorta does the same character in all her 90s movies—I just happen to love her quirkiness.

I love the "manly" tape he hascand the convo with the priest in the he confessional.

On why he hasn't tried to fuck Emily in 3 years:

Howard: "He respects her"

Priest: "he's gay"

It was a good-looking movie.

Good-looking locales. Lots of good-looking performers playing morally-shady characters.

A good-looking poster with the title in Bodoni!

I’ve never liked Kevin Kline more. He made a man who suppressed his sexual feelings into his 30s totally believable. And Joan Cusack is hilarious, sad and heartbreaking. Special mention: Shalom Harlow as Dillon’s model girlfriend.

Since it took place in Indiana, I wonder how much of an effect it had on little Petey Buttigieg?

Yes enjoyed Shalom Harlow (who is NOT Jewish btw).

She also isn't a platinum blonde, r29.

I'M GAY!!!

I liked Harlow's bulimia joke.

The single worst movie ever to be nominated for an Oscar. Even worse than "Mannequin" and that is saying a lot,

The Birdcage was 10x better.

She was too old for Yentl!!!

"Homosection, I mean, intersection." - A very confused Howard Brackett who has been kissed by a man for the first time.

What was the "Color Me Barbra" joke? I forgot that one.

As a five year old I was obsessed with Tom Selleck on Magnum. In & Out came out I was in high school and thought that gay men like Selleck might actually exist! Oh my eternal excitement. Then I turned 21 a few years later and the reality that the Selleck's out there were very few and far between.

So for me? More hurtful than helpful.

I loved In & Out and thought it was hilarious. It had a great, cohesive cast. Everybody did a great job but Joan Cusack was especially fantastic.

^ Joan's role was difficult because she is essentially jilted

The only thing worse than small independent gay films that hardly anyone saw were the big mainstream gay Stepin Fetchit efforts that comparatively everybody saw.

R40 Do you consider this a "Stepin Fetchit movie"?

I was up for the Joan Cusack role. But Barbra Stresiand and Steven Spielberg called the producers and I was dropped from the film. It could have been my big screen bbreakthrough.

Still very funny. Yes it has stereotypes, but it has fun with them. Everyone is well cast and directed. Cusack is great. Selleck was having fun with the years of gay rumors. Fittingly, I saw it in Indiana (in Indy for a meeting) and it was obvious that it wasn't shot there---no great loss.

Kline was never a leading man--always best as an ensemble player. I doubt that this affected his career very much.

[quote] What was the "Color Me Barbra" joke? I forgot that one.

For r36:

Peter: What was Barbra Streisand's eighth album?

Howard: Color Me Barbra.

Peter: Stud!

Howard: Everybody knows that!

Peter: Everybody where? The Little Gay Bar on the Prairie?

The main thing I recall is Joan Cusack screaming Do you know how many times I had to watch Funny Lady?!

R11 forgot about The Birdcage which came out a year earlier and did $185,260,553 in business vs In & Out's paltry $63,856,929.

r34 The Robin Williams/Nathan Lane Birdcage remake was great, but talk about stereotypes! It was far too campy and a little too wild/risque to appeal to wider straight audiences, in my opinion. I love it to this day, but I remember it was rated R when it came out in the 90s and wasn't going to pull in any straight people, whereas I think In and Out was PG-13 and marketed as slightly more of a family-friendly kind of comedy that happened to be about a man who realizes he's gay. Both movies are great.

R47 see R46.

Anything with Kevin Kline can't ever be helpful.

I do find the scene of Kline dancing to Diana Ross' version of I Will Survive a bit cringey. I know it's not supposed to be serious but I have never really found it that funny.

Joan Cusack is hilarious in this. She is such a scene-stealer - Broadcast News, Working Girl, Addams Family Values and this film.

I loved the trio of students ("Animal Kingdom's" Shawn Hatosy in an early role) and their coming to terms with their favorite teacher's life, and life in general.

was the print ad / poster guy with undone tux tie supposed to be Kevin Kline?

That's bothered me for 20 years...it looks like a generic Kevin Kline airbrushed 20 years younger

Anybody???

In the 90s, I thought Kevin Kline and Patrick Bergen were the same person.

I thought KK was hot in “Sophie’s Choice” but that’s about it.

I remember straight girls thinking the movie was hilarious - the same way they thought Will & Grace was funny.

I watched some of it on cable recently, and kept thinking that Kevin Kline looks like Steve Martin and Jon Hamm had a child together.

I can't believe I never noticed that the title is written in rainbow colors.

Did Selleck and Kline really kiss? Was there tongue action involved?

Huge crush on Shawn Hatosy. Still do

Kevin Kline revealed himself to be an ACTOR - like Mandy Patinkin - during the press interviews.

Great actor - never want to meet him.

R59, Kline and Patinkin both have something else in common. They've both fucked Patti Lupone.

[quote]Fittingly, I saw it in Indiana (in Indy for a meeting) and it was obvious that it wasn't shot there---no great loss.

Greenleaf Indiana was actually Northport Long Island which co-incidentally is the home town of Kevin Kline's Julliard lover Broadway living legend Patti Lupone.

Who cares, OP, it was an enjoyable movie.

[quote] was the print ad / poster guy with undone tux tie supposed to be Kevin Kline? That's bothered me for 20 years...it looks like a generic Kevin Kline airbrushed 20 years younger... Anybody???

Looks like Kevin Kline to me.

Another fun, carefree movie from the 90s. This was the last decade before all kinds of shit happened to us. Then came 9/11 and it seemed to go downhill further and further still.