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Bob Hope

Why is he forgotten?

by Anonymousreply 45January 22, 2021 7:56 PM

He's forgotten because he looks like Justin Timberlake's great grandfather.

by Anonymousreply 1January 21, 2021 2:10 AM

Because Tom Hanks is doing specials now.

by Anonymousreply 2January 21, 2021 2:12 AM

Because he was never funny.

by Anonymousreply 3January 21, 2021 2:14 AM

All of us will be forgotten, but never Whitney.

by Anonymousreply 4January 21, 2021 2:17 AM

I never thought he was funny either. Never understood why people fawned over him so much either.

by Anonymousreply 5January 21, 2021 2:17 AM

Have I been forgotten?

I did specials too....from the holy land!

by Anonymousreply 6January 21, 2021 2:18 AM

Thanks for the memory....

by Anonymousreply 7January 21, 2021 2:36 AM

His humor was unfunny because it was sneering, dismissive, and mean-spirited. And of course misogynistic, racist, and covertly menacing. He appeared onstage with a golf club which he used as a (potential) weapon. He was a hard right-winger in the 60s, very pro-Vietnam and anti-civil rights. A hideous man.

by Anonymousreply 8January 21, 2021 2:41 AM

He made three terrible films with Lucy

by Anonymousreply 9January 21, 2021 2:43 AM

There's a great biography called "HOPE". Basically, Hope rode the wave of the WWII generation and then in the late 60s, like Sinatra and others, openly looked down on the Baby Boomers. Watching his television specials and his movies now is often painful. That style is just far out.

by Anonymousreply 10January 21, 2021 2:45 AM

He lives on, to some degree, in Woody Allen's 70s-film-era wholesale theft of comic delivery.

by Anonymousreply 11January 21, 2021 2:47 AM

His early films and a number of the road films are pretty funny with his uncanny gift of delivery. But he entirely depended on his writers and he was too faithful to them. As they all aged the jokes became groaners.

He though like Fred Astaire pretty much was a very important part of American 20th Century culture. You can't speak about it without them. A star from vaudeville to Broadway to Hollywood to TV.

by Anonymousreply 12January 21, 2021 2:55 AM

Not to dismiss this thread, but you might find one from this fall interesting.

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by Anonymousreply 13January 21, 2021 2:59 AM

Except for Audrey Hepburn and Monroe everyone is forgotten. Even the legends of Elvis and James Dean are receding into distant memory.

by Anonymousreply 14January 21, 2021 2:59 AM

R8 for the win.

Hope was a well-known lech. The line among starlets, showgirls, models and wannabes was make sure you were never alone with him.

by Anonymousreply 15January 21, 2021 2:59 AM

Another old fart , who apparently Liked to grab'em by the P***y .

by Anonymousreply 16January 21, 2021 3:01 AM

r12, reasonable to take the long view, he was a cultural figure, but by the 60s he was way past his freshness date and his face had congealed into a mask of resentment and hate, a rictus of spoiled entitlement. Many tours of Vietnam with the USO, doing stale comedy gags before captive audiences of boys about to be fed into the meat grinder of a senseless war. He was reprehensible.

by Anonymousreply 17January 21, 2021 3:03 AM

I never liked him or his stale jokes.

by Anonymousreply 18January 21, 2021 3:03 AM

Pretty sure this is the most memorable thing Bob Hope did, and his worst. His last self-casting role in a commercial for Big Kmart.

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by Anonymousreply 19January 21, 2021 3:05 AM

Who?

by Anonymousreply 20January 21, 2021 3:09 AM

His humor didn't age well. It came to be known that he was a womanizer. Like his comic persona, he was a cheapskate.

by Anonymousreply 21January 21, 2021 3:11 AM

Bob Hope took Brooke Shields virginity, with a forcefulness. That is why she lost the love of Michael Jackson. Now it can be told.

by Anonymousreply 22January 21, 2021 3:37 AM

He sure played up his long term marriage to his elder fans like he was Mr. Wholesome.

by Anonymousreply 23January 21, 2021 3:45 AM

The Road to Oblivion

by Anonymousreply 24January 21, 2021 3:47 AM

Ask the Staten Island Ferry.

by Anonymousreply 25January 21, 2021 3:48 AM

Lives on in Quagmire.

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by Anonymousreply 26January 21, 2021 5:45 AM

Forgotten by whom? Not me! His '30's and '40's films are hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 27January 21, 2021 3:01 PM

He was truly a dirty old man...the younger, the better. Tried watching his utube academy awards hosting...bitter, cynical, not funny. Plus he was a right wing tool....his Golden Girls episode is the worst.

by Anonymousreply 28January 21, 2021 3:55 PM

When I was a kid he became my hero when he pushed Dorothy Lamour at the bad guys and ran the other way..

by Anonymousreply 29January 21, 2021 4:20 PM

He was Rose Nylund’s father.

by Anonymousreply 30January 21, 2021 4:25 PM

His TV presence was primarily through rarely repeated awards shows and "specials," so they have disappeared. Plus, stand-up becomes dated quickly and sketch comedy rarely hold up. Plus, his shows from the 80s really suck.

With respect to film, his best work is primarily in black and white, which is a turnoff to young people.

99.5% of people are forgotten sometime. Even Lucy is fading from public memory.

by Anonymousreply 31January 21, 2021 4:49 PM

Jack Benny was/is 100x the legend that Bob Hope was. It seems like Hope's humor was secondhand from Jack.

by Anonymousreply 32January 21, 2021 4:54 PM

R31 already faded from my memory

by Anonymousreply 33January 21, 2021 4:59 PM

Judy Garland does not/will not fade. In the words for Frank Sinatra: "The rest of us will be forgotten. Not Judy."

by Anonymousreply 34January 21, 2021 5:00 PM

Hope left his very sanctimonius Catholic wife in Palm Springs, and he would go fuck his way around the world. The biography "Hope" makes that very clear. He was a huge pussy hound, and it was understood that if your toured with him, you fucked him. Very old show biz. Dagmar!

by Anonymousreply 35January 21, 2021 5:02 PM

The Pointer Sisters fucked old man Bob Hope on their 1991 USO tour? I doubt it.

by Anonymousreply 36January 21, 2021 5:10 PM

[quote]Jack Benny was/is 100x the legend that Bob Hope was. It seems like Hope's humor was secondhand from Jack.

Jack Benny's stand up routines are still hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 37January 21, 2021 5:11 PM

Judy Garland is as forgotten as the stupid Sinatra quote. Sinatra's music is not forgotten.

by Anonymousreply 38January 21, 2021 5:17 PM

He's forgotten because most of the people who were alive during his heydays and found him funny are either dead or in nursing homes.

by Anonymousreply 39January 21, 2021 5:19 PM

A film about Garland won an Oscar last year. I don't think she's forgotten.

by Anonymousreply 40January 21, 2021 9:46 PM

Because he wasn't relevant or funny for the last 30 years of his life.

by Anonymousreply 41January 21, 2021 10:02 PM

Hope always had more hustle than talent. He was famous for constantly working the press, and traveling the country knowing every gossip columnist, celebrity reporter, t.v. anchor, radio personality. He would get into town and just hit the phones with these people, and they were always loyal to him. Allowed him to seem "bigger" than he actually was....Hope understood personal brand marketing -- he would have killed on Instagram.

by Anonymousreply 42January 22, 2021 5:21 PM

When living in Palm Springs, it's "hey pick me up at the corner of Bob Hope and Dinah Shore"! All these fossils are ingrained forever out there. It reflects the early days out there

by Anonymousreply 43January 22, 2021 5:28 PM

Gilbert Gottfried describes Bob Hope's Jack Frost.

You'll wet yourself...

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by Anonymousreply 44January 22, 2021 5:41 PM

Here's the song...

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by Anonymousreply 45January 22, 2021 7:56 PM
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