Kris Kristofferson

[quote]Why was he chosen for it?

Hell if I know. His singing was shit and he could not act. Huge piece of meat?

He was so hot in SAILOR WHO FELL FROM GRACE WITH THE SEA.

R2 - yep

Wasn’t it quite tough to find leading men who were willing to star opposite Streisand knowing that it would essentially be her picture.

He apparently was so wasted when he hosted Saturday Night Live in the '70s that he was banned from the show forever after.

Think of that. Banned from '70s SNL because your drug abuse is over the line.

R2 that is completely uncanny you mentioned that movie title as i was trying to recall it just yesterday for some reason and i kept conjuring up The Man Who Fell To Earth ( which was not it obviously ,but close).

Thanks!

psychic!

Did Babs fuck him? Knowing her she probably fucked him over by reshooting and rewriting the film to soothe her monstrous ego, but I wonder if she also had an affair with him.

She did screw Nick Nolte during the making of POT, did she not?

Sex symbol with a great voice.

He was married to Rita Coolidge whose music I love. He was unfaithful to her throughout their marriage and the final straw was reported to be the scenes in The Sailor Who Fell From Grace with the Sea where he was actually having sex with Sarah Miles. There was a pictorial in Playboy showing the scenes where Kristofferson was face-deep into Miles. That's when Coolidge called it quits.

I love him. From his solo stuff to the albums he made with Rita to the Highwaymen.

Ugly sexy with those deep set eyes.

Minnesotan Monster, a bit in the realm of Charlton Heston, but uneducated, dumb - musician. Great actor and star, of course mainly musician. Might have done serial child abuse.

He's a Rhodes scholar who graduated from Oxford.

In an interview, he said he was so wasted during the filming that he actually didn’t remember anything about it, at all.

And in addition to being smart and athletic, r13, he was scorching hot. And also graduated from Army Ranger school, which is a fairly big deal in military terms, and according to Wikipedia "Among his songwriting credits are the songs "Me and Bobby McGee", "For the Good Times", "Sunday Mornin' Comin' Down", and "Help Me Make It Through the Night", all of which were hits for other artists."

So, a renaissance man. Too bad about the drugs.

I wonder if he ever donated sperm?

I thought he was good in Star Is Born. I loved the film then and now and love the soundtrack.

Bitches who imply he would never have fucked Barbra are wrong, they had had an affair in real life.

BUT when BS did the DVD extras she barely referred to him.

(On the DVD extras to Up The Sandbox...sorry, I'm referring to the "commentaries"... she said ZIP about her leading man. Didn't even say his name. Like he wasn't even part of the film, let alone the male lead. Maybe they hated each other or she's just totally self-obsessed...because more than anything it was extremely rude).

The original cut of Star was supposed to be much better. Kristofferson gave a really strong performance that the director felt could have been nominated for an oscar.

But guess who didn't like it, and felt it needed further editing.

By the time she was finished, most of his reaction scenes and other pieces were cut from the film.

Sex on a stick in his prime...

[quote]In an interview, he said he was so wasted during the filming that he actually didn’t remember anything about it, at all.

I know how he feels.

His come to jesus moment only lasted about 24 hours.

Mandy at R19, did you have an affair with Barbara Joan when you played Avigdor to her Anshel?

I am trying to imagine the ego on the child if your affair had resulted in a pregnancy for Babula.

I remember being a young gayling and jerking off to him in that Sailor Who Fell with Grace pictorial in Playboy. Good times.

[quote]I remember being a young gayling and jerking off to him in that Sailor Who Fell with Grace pictorial in Playboy.

Did he show peen?

[quote] Minnesotan Monster, a bit in the realm of Charlton Heston, but uneducated, dumb - musician.

???

He was graduated [italic]summa cum laude[/italic] from the Claremont Colleges and then was a Rhodes scholar to Oxford.

[quote]Mandy at [R19], did you have an affair with Barbara Joan when you played Avigdor to her Anshel?

It's in the contract of all the male leads. They have to sexually pleasure BS. And they don't get hazard pay.

[quote] Sex symbol with a great voice.

He is the worst singer I have ever heard in recorded music.

[quote]Sex symbol with a great voice.

No, he did not. He was like Burt Bacharach and Bob Dylan, wrote good songs but never should have been allowed to sing.

I always like this song of his.

He was absolutely beautiful and immensely fuckable in his prime.

He had a kind of low-key sexiness that made him a star in the 70s in films like Cisco Like, Blume In Love, and Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore. He's managed to have a long movie career (119 films).

I like him best when he plays somewhat menacing roles in two John Sayles films, Lone Star and Limbo.

Cisco Pike, not Cisco Like (#*@#* auto correct).

I've never seen the appeal whatsoever. He was never attractive, his voice is forgettable, and that Streisand ASIB is beige, bland, and boring. Though I WILL admit to liking "Evergreen".

Difficult role to cast: A singer who could act / an actor who could sing; credible for the stadium tour scenes; age appropriate; and masculine enough to be Streisand's love interest. He had a lot of popular appeal at the time the movie was made. Not sure who else they could have gotten for the role.

[quote] Difficult role to cast: A singer who could act / an actor who could sing; credible for the stadium tour scenes; age appropriate; [bold]and masculine enough to be Streisand's love interest. [/bold]

Mary!

He was so POWERFUL in "Convoy" with another DL legend Ali MacGraw

They offered the part to Elvis but the Colonel turned it down because Barbra had top billing.

[quote]I've never seen the appeal whatsoever. He was never attractive, his voice is forgettable

He was not cast with queens like you in mind.

I thought he was kind of hot when I saw his photo...THEN I heard his speaking voice, THEN I heard his singing voice. HATED him after those voice experiences.

This is sad, just sad.

Uneducated R12? He was a Rhodes scholar who studied literature at Oxford. Brilliant, hot and very talented.

Excellent find, R39 - but my God!...his voice had GONE walkies.

Hilarious, R27, how many people have paid money to listen to you sing?

R40, Kristofferson just acted like a dope.

[quote]Hilarious, [R27], how many people have paid money to listen to you sing?

He never claimed to be a singer - ridiculous retort from a moron.

Does Kristofferson have an album of standards? I'd just love to hear him warble La Vie En Rose!

[quote] Hilarious, [R27], how many people have paid money to listen to you sing?

That's pretty meaningless, r42.

People have paid money to hear William Hung sing.

Really, R46? People have paid millions upon millions of dollars over the course of six decades to listen to William Hung? How many stadiums has he filled?

You don't have to like their voices or their singing styles or anything about their music, but you don't have the credentials to insist your preference is the only acceptable one.

There is a longstanding rumor that Kenny Loggins was offered the role. It even appears in IMDB's trivia section for the movie.

Loggins says it's an urban legend, and that the only thing that happened was that, while he was hanging out with her and Jon Peters for a few days, and teaching her the song he contributed for the soundtrack ("I Believe in Love"), she asked him if he could act. He said "no", and she said "oh. OK." And that was it.

^ Calm down, Kris.

Webmaster, please seriously consider a "laugh" icon so we can reward people like R25.

Thank you.

R48, Streisand Herself circulated the rumor/story that Mick Jagger was considered. Wasn't.

A Star Is Born was a piece of shit, and Kristofferson ruined his promising movie career with it.

He was good playing opposite Ellen Burstyn in her Oscar-winning role in Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore. He showed promise as a rugged and brainy leading man and then Babs emasculated him.

I dunno, R51. ASIB made him a huge star no matter how dumb the movie was. He wasn't before, wasn't, really wasn't. The booze and drugs ruined his career.

He was not a good singer, but did write some great songs that have stood the test of time.

[quote][quote]I dunno, [R51].

neither does R51 know.

You know it was the biggest selling soundtrack of all time until saturday night fever broke the record the following year.

& the movie was a SMASH HIT and deservedly.

He was a personality as much as anything, but a genuine great talent was behind the image. His writing was fine, he was educated and intelligent, he could look good, he lived the outlaw life, and paid his dues. His grounding in the business eased him into the spotlight and people ate him up.

The snits here are absurd, as always. Blah blah blah. But R51 sure has it right that he went over the line with "A Star Is Born." But a big part of him was beyond it all, didn't care - and it wasn't just the substances.

Oxford, military service, actor-singer, liberal.

What's not to love?

I always remember him more in the Willie Nelson/Merle Haggard vein of country music, not the twangy Porter Waggoner type.

His University roommate, also a Rhodes scholar, was an English Professor of mine. He didn't talk about it much.

He has ninety eleven kids. One of them is a wrestler. His cover of this song cracks me up:

[quote]He was married to Rita Coolidge whose music I love. He was unfaithful to her throughout their marriage and the final straw was reported to be the scenes in The Sailor Who Fell From Grace with the Sea where he was actually having sex with Sarah Miles. There was a pictorial in Playboy showing the scenes where Kristofferson was face-deep into Miles. That's when Coolidge called it quits.

Sorry..." The Sailor Who Fell from Grace with the Sea" was before "A Star Is Born". Not only were they were together, Rita being in the Grammy scene, I saw them both at Radio City Music Hall in '77.

[quote]Bitches who imply he would never have fucked Barbra are wrong, they had had an affair in real life.

Yeah when? She was hot and heavy with Jon Peters and they were producing their first movie. You think she had time to fool around with him?

Was Jon Peters straight? I've heard of straight barbers, but never heard of a straight hairstylist who mainly works on women.

r61: pleased to meet you!

[quote] but never heard of a straight hairstylist who mainly works on women.

there are lots and many of them famous.

"Bitches who imply he would never have fucked Barbra are wrong, they had had an affair in real life."

'Yeah when?'

For about 15 minutes in 1971. Streisand put it on her 'men resume,' Kristofferson didn't recall it.

By the time I was a kid, he was so washed-up the only film role he could get was [italic]Big Top Pee-Wee[/italic].

I actually really like Big Top Pee Wee.

I wouldn't call him "country". he was recorded by some country types, but he really belongs to the "singer-songwriter" canon.

R67, he’s Outlaw Country. Have you ever heard of The Highwaymen?

He performed at the small university that I went to in 1968. It was in the gym and there wasn’t a large crowd, but he offered to play and sing for as long as anyone wanted to listen, which turned out to be after midnight. He was charming and very handsome. It was fun and I always loved him after that.

I caught part of Semi-Tough on TV back in April I think (the height of the Q. I’ve seen it maybe once or twice before.) Even though Burt Reynolds wasn’t nearly as traditionally good looking, he’s a lot more charming and has “that quality”. KK makes barely an impression at all.

[quote]He has ninety eleven kids.

WTF?

SemiTough was just dreadful all round.

Oops, sorry I was getting it mixed up with Convoy.

He's way before my time, but he always looked grizzled. I think he had a natural lean muscled body though. He's too much a mess to be a gym guy. I know men with that body. Tight holes.

Kristofferson's best song was sung best by Trisha Yearwood it turns out. A matter of opinion. A great singer she is. I love her hybrid voice - somewhere between Linda Ronstadt and Tammy Wynette.

[quote]Minnesotan Monster, a bit in the realm of Charlton Heston, but uneducated, dumb - musician.

[quote]He's a Rhodes scholar who graduated from Oxford.

I always enjoy it when someone posts a fact in response to someone else's shocking ignorance, stupidity, and misinformation. I only regret that I can't see the facial expression of the dumb bastard when he realizes his ignorance has been called out.

IIRC, Kris fucked Janis Joplin, not sure. I do know Janis had a hit with his "Me and Bobby McGee" song.

Kris is a great songwriter. I also don't understand anyone calling Kris unattractive, he was very hot back in the day!

Obviously, many here seem so clueless about any celebrity who is not a reality star!

[quote] And he was one of those who was a drug addict who found Jesus.

Born agains are usually shitty, selfish people who, in seeking instant gratification, endlessly, usually wind up in the gutter, an embarrassment.

So being born again is perfect for them. It’s a get out of jail free card, and it allows them to be shitty, selfish assholes in an entirely different way.

They look like they are having a good time here.

Kris was one sexy man.

Sure knows his way around a lady, R78...

A truely iconic star of his era, smart, talented, wasted, HOT AS FUCK, yet somehow non threatening enough that any girl or woman in the USA would be down to fuck him.

[quote] any girl or woman in the USA would be down to fuck him.

Down to fuck him? Never heard that expression before.

Bill Clinton considered appointing him to a cabinet position. (Secretary of HUD or something like that.)

Lots of brilliant performers/artists don't have "pretty" voices....Dylan and Springsteen and Cobain to name a few.

They're still great.

Pretty is usually boring.

Babs should have done ASIB with Elvis instead. Elvis would have killed himself halfway through the making of the film, unable to bear Her interference, egomania and bad taste, all of which were even worse than Elvis'.

Elvis would have demanded 50 percent writing credits on all the songs and probably 50 percent credit for directing and producing, as well as 50 percent of the gross profits. Elvis didn't allow anyone he worked with to take a shit without giving him 50 percent.

Just saw this last week and it really impressed me about Kristofferson. He was told to remove her from the stage, but didn’t. He went out and supported her until she could gather herself. He then remained backstage and embrace her when she was done, sobbing and completely breaking down. This is what a good and truly loving person does, sees a person who is vulnerable and gives them support, understanding and helps them through a perilous situation regardless.

He’s far from the first person I would have imagined doing this, Frank Sinatra said he wanted to kick her ass and Andrew Duce Clay wanted to smack her. But here’s this big macho guy that does the right thing when needed and I admire him for that. He wrote a song about her years later.

My mom had a crush on him. He oozed masculinity.

When he was young, fatter and without beard, he was sexier.

r78, I was expecting to see Sylvia Miles, and I thought she would be ancient, even back in the 70's.

Younger and fatter Kris looks exactly like Charlotte Clymer. Who knew? I don't like men or whatever Charlotte is with such tiny eyes. Kris has them too. tiny tiny eyes. Like a bird.

So, so sexy.

A Star is Born didn't ruin his career. Heaven's Gate did.

Streisand was being awarded with some lifetime award and Kris was a speaker. He joked that all the criticisms they received for ASIB helped him prepare for the trashing of Heaven's Gate lol

Sex on a stick. Gorgeous. Incredible cheek bones.

He was an Army brat whose future was decided for him by his dad: the military, same as his dad and grandad.

He was married, had a kid, and was stationed in Germany, when he was notified of his new appointment: a teaching post at West Point. That was when he realized he had to live his own life, not do what other people expected of him, so he resigned his commission and moved back to the US, determined to make it as a songwriter. He abandoned his wife and kid and moved to Nashville, where he worked in a recording studio as an unpaid janitor (for the connections) and flew a helicopter for an oil company to pay the bills. His family more or less disowned him as a result. His song "Jesse Younger" is about his estrangement from his family.

He had the typical unknown's problem of getting his songs noticed, so one day he took the company chopper, flew it to Johnny Cash's house and landed on his front lawn. As an extremely angry Cash charged outside to confront the stranger who'd landed a helicopter on his lawn, Kris threw him a cassette with some of his songs and took off. Intrigued, Cash played the tape - and a songwriter star was born.

And yes, he had a relationship with Janis Joplin. But my favorite story of Kris is how he supposedly was held captive in an apartment for a weekend by Linda Ronstadt, Emmylou Harris, and Dolly Parton, who insisted on taking turns with him until they were all satisfied.

It was the film "Heaven's Gate" that ended his film career. Everyone associated with that debacle was tainted afterward.

Wasn’t there some connection between Kris and Robert Altman related to the film Nashville? I did a deep dive about Nashville and recalled finding an interesting fact about him and the film, but don’t remember what it was?

R94 wasn’t Jeff Bridges in that? He did ok.

That’s an amazing story though, what a life.

R89, of course we all like what we like, but that baby-face look isn't hot at all for me. I like him better when he looks rugged and manly.

In that photo he looks like Kurt Russell's fatter brother, but really, KK's chest looks like he isn't fat at all, he just has round cheeks there.

R87, that clip is amazing. Thanks so much for posting it.

Kris was primarily a poet and songwriter. Not a great singer, but he always did his songs proud. He was a talented actor though.

Smegma factory.

Oh, yeah, R100, just my type.

He was a breath of fresh air in the 1970s. He was masculine when all the male actors were touchy feely types.

[quote] I wouldn't call him "country".

He's a little bit country.

He's a little rock 'n' roll!

He's a little bit of downtown Nashville, with a little bit of Motown in his soul!

R32 Evergreen was written by Paul Williams

^ He blackmailed BS into giving him writing credit.

He's great in Lone Star.

R86 That wasn't Elvis it was Colonel Tom Parker. It is the main thing that kept Elvis from making better films and kept him from recording some songs, such as Dolly's I Will Always Love You.

He's...reductive.

Neil Diamond, who went to high school with Barbra, was considered for A Star Is Born. Apparently Marlon Brando was too, but I have a hard time imagining that!

Another vote for his performance and sex appeal in Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore. If you think KK's vocals are bad (I don't) check out Ellen Burstyn in this film. Cringeworthy! But she does fuck Harvey Keitel as well as KK so...mazeltov, Alice!

[quote]If you think KK's vocals are bad (I don't) check out Ellen Burstyn in this film. Cringeworthy!

R110 = Linda Lavin

Bom-Boo-Dee-Bop!

Kris Kristofferson eating Sarah Miles' snatch.

"Neil Diamond, who went to high school with Barbra, was considered for A Star Is Born"

Neil Diamond went to Lincoln, not Erasmus. And, no, he was not mentioned as under consideration for ASIB. He may have been, though I highly doubt it, but it was not in the press.

[quote]Kris Kristofferson eating Sarah Miles' snatch.

I know her. I'm going to ask her about this.

r113, oh my.

That story Robert Mitchum told about Sarah Miles on the set of Ryan's Daughter drinking her. own urine springs to mind, for some reason

Bob Dylan was considered for ASIB but it was too much Jewishness.

A Bad Perm Is Born