Archie is a GINGER!

I'm fascinated by this child.

Mainly because his mother is so horrible!

How bizarre.

Why don't they just show us an actual picture of Archie?

Why does everything about him have to be so "mysterious?"

You are not honoring the privacy they said they were seeking when they left the UK and an active role in the Royal Family. You should be ashamed of yourself, OP

Then again, they're not honoring the privacy they said they were seeking when they left the UK and an active role in the Royal Family, either. They should be ashamed of themselves, too.

Hi Klan Grannie at R3!

I love it when rich cunts can afford to buy their kids $7000 playhouse amidst a pandemic. It warms my heart to see the rustic yet expensive playhouse in their backyard that’s the size of football field. The playhouse looks nice, maybe it has a hidden toilet for Archie when he can’t make it in time to go to any one of the 19 bathrooms inside the big house where mommy and daddy lectures to regular folks on how to live kinder, more environmentally friendly lives.

How can you tell he's ginger?

Oh, my stars!

people.com said so, R6

Lol. R5 is Kate Middlington!

Jealous, bitch?

You forget, R7, this is Meghan. Say what you will, but she has an agenda and monetizes everything she does. I'm sure that playhouse was given to her, which is now being talked about in price and design by Daily Mail and other media outlets. Ca-ching and Merry Christmas!

Meanwhile R10, Kate Middlington has to do the dog-and-pony show, minstrel routine for the British Royal Family.

Begging for dollars.

Dance, monkey! Dance!

A 19 month old selected the decorations? Um, okay.

[quote] Meghan Markle Wants Prince Harry's 'Christmas Away from England' to Be 'Special,' Says Source

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry are celebrating their first Christmas in America.

After spending 2017 and 2018 with Queen Elizabeth and the rest of the royal family at Sandringham, Meghan and Harry spent their first Christmas with 1-year-old son Archie last year with some "family time" during a six-week break towards the end of the year in Canada.

This year marks their first time the family of three is celebrating in California, where the couple purchased a home in Monecito — about 100 miles north of Los Angeles, Meghan's hometown — over the summer.

"It's Harry's second Christmas away from England, and Meghan wants to make sure it's special for everyone," an insider tells PEOPLE. "They are creating their own traditions at their new home."

Duke and Duchess of Sussex have prepped for the holiday season by decorating for Christmas.

"They both love Christmas and have been decorating with Archie," a source previously told PEOPLE.

Meghan, 39, and Prince Harry, 36, also set out earlier this month to find the perfect Christmas tree. During their low-key trip to the unnamed tree barn, the couple seemed to go mostly undetected except for one little boy who mistakenly approached Harry, thinking he worked there.

“Meghan and Prince Harry came into my work today and we sold them their Christmas Tree,” said Twitter user @imaJaaaaaames.

"We had our lot empty when they got there - their agent promoted them a good time to come instead of us shutting it down. There was one family in there and their stoked little son ran through trees up to Harry and asked if he worked here not knowing who that is," the worker explained.

Meghan's mom will likely join the trio for Christmas as well.

Amid stepping down from their senior roles within the royal family earlier this year, the couple moved to California in March, staying in Los Angeles until purchasing their new home. The nine-bedroom mansion, purchased for a reported $14 million, is the family's "permanent home," a source previously told PEOPLE.

"Ever since Archie arrived, everything has been so turbulent, and many things have been up in the air," the insider said. "It has not been easy, necessarily. For the first time in a long time, they have a clear focus."

On Wednesday, Meghan and Harry shared their family Christmas card, which is an illustration of a photo taken by Meghan's mom. Starring front and center is the couple's 19-month-old son Archie (who has clearly inherited dad Harry's red hair!) and their two adorable dogs, Pula and Guy.

"Wishing you a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year," the card states.

“The original photo of the family was taken at their home earlier this month by The Duchess’s mother," a spokesperson for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex said. "The small Christmas tree, including the homemade ornaments and other decorations, were selected by Archie, and the tree will be replanted after the holidays.”

Well, duh.

Archie is such a cute little roly poly chubster.

But I'm confused.

Why does he look like an oriental?

R11 we all know Meghan only dances for $$$ like the Kartrashians except the Kartrashians are way better at it than she’ll ever be. Wanting a private life yet having a 5-member team of PR professionals simply do not go together. Give me the Kartrashians any day over Meghan, at least they don’t pretend to be who they’re not IRL, they own up to being shallow cunts. Meghan OTOH want to be Michelle Obama AND be a SM influencer at the same time. While Michelle is accomplished and intelligent, Meghan is neither yet she hoists herself on the public at every opportunity for no good reason.

Honestly, it seems like everyone, with maybe the exception of Harry, is much happier than they were last year. Meghan is living the life she wanted and has done it in record time. Beautiful house, the influencing, the "Tig" style lectures, the deals that will set her for life.

Across the pond, the Windsors look a lot more relaxed. Kate and William seem to be much happier in their public appearance now that M&H are gone. Everyone knows their roles and is essentially doing what they want to do. Kate and Meghan are both on their way to achieving their goals in life, whatever you may think of them.

Hopefully, they'll let him grow his hair out.

Do they have two dogs, or is that a sack of trash in the foreground?

Agreed, R17.

Meghan actually did the BRF a favor.

Harry is so happy now with his own family, not having to live in William's shadow.

And William can focus on the business of the monarchy.

It's a win-win for everyone.

I don't understand why the Klan Grannies keep bashing Meghan. Her marrying Harry was a GOOD thing.

Wasnt little Thomas Markle basically still bald when we last saw him in May? Did they send him to the same place Harry went to for his hair plugs? Did they get a family discount?

R15 Oriental? Are you living in the 1950s? Seriously, Archie’s parents both have small eyes, his mom is a bit cross-eyed while his dad has those unfortunate close-set eyes. In the photo he’s looking directly at the camera so there’s that too. I think he’s cute in an ugly-baby way. If his eyes remain crossed he can get surgical correction when he’s older.

R20 Bashing? Are you new here? Meghan has put herself out there as an influencer-celeb wannabe yet we’re not allowed to “bash” her?

I think R15 was channeling Prince Philip, R22.

Oh, f18, as long as Meghan Markle has any say in the matter [italic]that[/italic] will never happen.

^^r18^^

Yeah, R20. I sometimes love to hate Meghan because she is just so shameless, but the love is more. I'm rooting for the LA girl who has serious game. No matter how she did it, she is the first bi-ricial, still HRH Duchess - they takes serious hustle and shade. Harry has been so pampered his whole life. Meghan has left a wake, but she got to where she is from the ground up. She's got street smarts, is self made, has survival skills, and is a hard worker. Harry could probably benefit having a partner like this.

And I do love Kate as well, She's the perfect choice to carry out her duties and I think she has found her niche in her causes.

Hopefully, Will and Harry will reunite. The Queen and Margaret seem to have been an amazing support system to each other despite their ups and downs.

I would kill to have Archie's "Wendy House." If I had the strength to kill. 20 of us could live in there.

I'm blocking both this thread and this poster. I STILL don't give a fuck about these assholes.

R20: We can't underfstand why you keep defending here. She wouldn't let you in her house.

Archie seems remarkably white, as in ultra-pale white. And what's the likelihood that he'd inherit straight, bright red hair? I'd at least expect to see some curliness there.

We'll never really get a proper photo of him though, since she's holding out for cash and her price is higher than anyone is willing to pay to get pictures of him.

Little Thomas has a gut just like Big Thomas. Time passes so quickly.

I was watching Supermarket Stakeout on Food Network and saw this guy named "Chef Rouge."

His name is Brandon Rouge, and he although he has some pretty obvious AA ancestry, he is pretty pale.

I'm thinking that Archie might end up looking like him.

That chef guy is about 20 shades darker than bright-white Archie, and he has curly hair. Archie shows absolutely no evidence of AA ancestry.

You think that Chef Rouge looks dark, R34?

No one cares about this chef. Archie is light because his father is a pasty ginger dolt, and his mother is very light skinned to the point that if her mother's background was not pointed out, everyone would assume she is Latina or at the very least 20% African American

I've got to agree to R91 - and let's face it, Archie is neither a good-looking nor a particularly cute kid, i. e. pretty much a failure for Megsy. That painting-like thing is just perfect for disguising Archie's shortcomings (the wonky eyes, looking A LOT like Meghan's dad).

So what if he's got red hair. Red hair might be in fact the only interesting feature Archie has got.

As a matter of fact it's the only interesting feature of his dumb father.

I love how the Klan Granny Troll just whines and whines and whines.

And his mother is a fake cunt. So fucking what?

Harry wasn’t that attractive as a child, only when he filled out and starting wearing uniforms did he start getting a macho appeal.

Has anyone noticed Pa and Sam have been silent for a long LONG (for them) time? They must have cashed out.

[quote] And his mother is a fake cunt. So fucking what?

Poor KKKate Middlington.

So jealous.

Too busy throwing up her food, because her husband cheats on her with her best friend Rose.

Pity, really

Poor MEGHalomanic.

Only got the dumb prince, not the one who will be king.

Unlike Kate, she'll never be Queen. Megsy will always be nothing but a second-tier duchess fading into obscurity.

And while Kate's children will eventually get elevated to Prince of Wales and heir incumbent (George), Princess Royal (Charlotte) and possessor of an important dukedom (Louis), Megsy's fugly crotchfruit will be forgotten. Just like mommy will.

Pity, really.

[Quote]I'm thinking that Archie might end up looking like him.

R33, if anything, he'll end up looking like a grown version of the biracial kid I posted at r18. He'll be a redhead with dark eyes and skin that'll probably tan well in the summer.

Sorry for putting it that bluntly, but wow, that is one fugly kid in R43's close-up.

[quote] that is one fugly kid in R43's close-up.

That's because he looks chinese.

[quote]Archie seems remarkably white, as in ultra-pale white. And what's the likelihood that he'd inherit straight, bright red hair? I'd at least expect to see some curliness there.

By the third generation of mixing, the black is usually gone. This is a picture of Donna Summer's mixed daughter with her (the daughter's) white husband. Their four kids are all white, you'd never know they had a black grandmother.

[quote] By the third generation of mixing, the black is usually gone. This is a picture of Donna Summer's mixed daughter with her (the daughter's) white husband. Their four kids are all white, you'd never know they had a black grandmother.

I don't know if that's necessarily true.

You really don't know how much white blood Donna Summer might have.

Most African Americans have some white blood in them, dating back nearly 400 years since they arrived in North America.

There was a lot of interracial mixing, although it probably wasn't talked about much.

I highly doubt that Donna was 100% African.

Another pic of Donna Summer's daughter and the grandkids.

Grace Jones and her white, redheaded granddaughter.

A 100% African woman would look more along the lines of this woman.

No one cares about Donna Summer's grandchildren! Archie may not be the cutest baby, but he sure as hell is less special needs looking than his father was as a baby.

Eartha Kitt and her white daughter and granddaughter

r52 must be a frau.

[quote] "Archie is really happy, and he has space to run free,"

Is he a Golden Retriever? Toddlers need very little free range space.

[quote]Poor KKKate Middlington.

[quote]So jealous.

Her husband will be King. She'll be the fucking Queen. I doubt she's jealous at all.

[Quote]Toddlers need very little free range space.

He needs to run around FAR FROM ME.

Henry (his real name) has a ginger dad.

[quote] Henry (his real name) has a ginger dad.

Rofl.

Which one of you bitches is my father??

Hmmmm.....

For the millionth time James Hewitt is not Harry's father. Their facial features look nothing alike. Diana didn't even meet Hewitt until after Harry was born. Red hair is a Spencer family trait. Diana's father was a redhead, as are her brother and two sisters.

I'll never understand how freaks like R37, R42, and R44 can attack a 19 month old child.

A toddler. A BABY.

Attack his mother. Fine. Attack his father. Fine.

But a 19 month old?

That shows you how despicable these dirty Klan Grannies are. Nothing is too low for them.

What's with the Klan Granny shit? The criticisms of that shameless grifter and narcissist Meghan are pretty valid.

The baby is cute. But I don't know if we can deduce he has red hair. According to the card, even Harry has red hair on top. However, we know that he has a tuft of red hair at the front of his head but is bald behind it. So the artist has taken some liberties with the "red coloring". Maybe it represents golden sunshine tones.

Awww Merry Christmas🎄🎅🔔❄Harry Meghan and Archie! from ALL of us at DL!

There’s plenty of room for grand acting women who don’t have the title of queen

There's got to be something wrong with that kid. It must be damaged.

What was that whole business with Harry calling a press conference to announce Meghan had gone into labor EIGHT HOURS AFTER SHE HAD DELIVERED. Remember that? What the Hell was going on?

It’s sweet that they took the pic in front of the little house that Meghan lets Harry live in behind her house.

R42, “heir incumbent”?

Archie has the same eyes as his father did as a baby, looking at the picture in r52. Let's face it, its the rare redhead who is a stunner as a child. They really do need to grow into their looks moreso than blondes and brunettes.

Archie's colouring isn't at all ugly. It's his unfortunate cross eyes and the weird inner-eye folds. All of that can be eventually fixed with surgery, so at the end of the day he could end up being quite handsome.

But damn, is that kid white. I've met blond Swedish babies with a less translucently white skin tone than Archie has.

Meghan should be glad of his cross eyes - they're the only trait of hers that the kid has inherited. Without them the surrogacy gossip tales would gain significantly more steam.

R71, we have never seen an unretouched photo of Archie. Never.

First they said the origonal photo was taken last July by Doria, didn't they? They changed the story when people started noticing that he looked like a baby in July and suddenly in this image he looks four years old when he won't even be 2 until May?

It do happen.

Jo Wood's grandma was black.

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For those Americans who don't know, a "Wendy house" is the equivalent in American English for a child's playhouse. The phrase comes from the little house the Lost Boys build for Wendy in Peter Pan.

Can't stand them but I actually I kinda like this card.

Genetics are a funny thing. You'd never guess that Tamera Mowry's kids have 3 white grandparents, especially her daughter

The horrible pic screams M's ART. Always contrived and in poor taste.

R71 Showing your racism as well as ignorance, aren’t you? You said “the weird inner-eye folds. All of that can be eventually fixed with surgery,” basically you’re saying this sort of eyes which are common in Asians, are ugly as well as “weird” and should be corrected with surgery. It’s called an epicanthic fold, you fucking racist cunt. It’s a variant of eyelid folds which is just as “normal” as other types. I’m as against klan granny trolls’ cries of unsupported racism when we gossip about cunty Meghan. But when you spew ignorant shit like this you deserve to be pointed out FYI epicanthic fold occurs in Caucasians too, just not to the degree that it does in Asians. Jennifer Lawrence, Charlotte Rampling among others have them.

That hamburger is a fucking racist for not making Markle appear sexy while she's eating!

Whoever conceived of that clip and directed it should be shot.

R67, I don't think he's "damaged" at all, at least not in the way you mean. Take a look at the video from his 1 year birthday (all dressed up in his underwear), with his mother reading him a book he is totally uninterested in. He finds a book he wants and then drops it and at 2:18 says "can't get it".

He doesn't look at his mother once. She is determined to make him sit while she "reads" to him and when he starts to fuss, someone off camera gets his attention and he smiles. That is who is connection is with, not his mother.

IIRC, poor little Archie had an obvious load in his diaper.

That “painting” is a Photoshop filter. I’m not at my desk now so I don’t know which one offhand but I’ll check later.

I couldn't put my finger on it, but today I've realised where I've seen Meghan's ridiculously long wedding veil before.

It's in the first part of the Austrian "Sissi" film triology starring Romy Schneider as Sissi (Elisabeth of Bavaria) when Sissi and Emperor Franz Joseph finally get married.

Look at the veil in the pic below.

that costume in Sissi isn’t correct for the period the film is set in. And as a Bavarian princess marrying into the Habsburg family, it would have been embroidered all over with silver and gold.

R88, nobody is talking about historical accuracy here. The inaccuracies in "Sissi" already start with Elisabeth's parents. Their marriage life is depicted in "Sissi" as being full of marital bliss and mutual understanding and benevolence while in reality Max and Ludovika's lives as a couple were truly miserable.

What I was talking about is the fucking veil and where Meghan got the idea for her ridiculous veil from.

The entire Sissi triology is pretty popular in Austria and Germany, not so sure about Switzerland though tbf. It's shown at around Christmas on TV every single year, usually not on Christmas Eve but on Christmas Day and St Stephen's Day ('Boxing Day' in the UK).

No, you lunatic cunt r81. To point out that epicanthal folds may indicate a problem in a white kid (or indeed, in any non-asian kid) is not racist. You are the racist here for seeing everything through the lens of race. Get help.

Mount Sinai Hospital Guidelines on Epicanthal Folds in infants:

"A child who is not Asian and is born with epicanthal folds may be examined for additional signs of Down syndrome or other genetic disorders."

Causes:

Epicanthal folds may be normal for people of Asiatic descent and some non-Asian infants. Epicanthal folds also may be seen in young children of any race before the bridge of the nose begins to rise.

However, they may also be due to certain medical conditions, including:

Down syndrome

Fetal alcohol syndrome

Turner syndrome

Phenylketonuria (PKU)

Williams syndrome

Noonan syndrome

Rubinstein-Taybi syndrome

Blepharophimosis syndrome

Rofl at the TMZ video at R84.

What a clusterfuck!!

Archie pays Meghan absolutely no mind.

I love how she was trying to script the whole damned book reading, and wanted to make it so perfect. But it was a massive fail!

Archie didn't give a fuck about the book, and Meghan was putting on her best act - reading the book to Harry!!

They clearly lost control of Archie at the end, and had to put on a song and dance routine, to make him pay attention.

Omg, that was hilarious. That kid is going to be a problem for them. They have absolutely no clue how to be parents.

I doubt Archie said anything. Too young. He was also too young for that book. Goodnight Moon or a touch/feel book would have been more age appropriate.

Was Meghan merching that book? Because it certainly was not appropiate for poor Archie given his age. He might've enjoyed a colourful book with lots of touch&feel elements in it.

Of course Meghan didn't give a fuck about what might've been appropiate for a toddler his age.

We can see the sad result in that video.

Now that we see Archie has the height and build of a 3/4 year old, you have to wonder what possessed the Duchess to hold this behemoth child while she was picking up errant socks and toys when she was felled by the miscarriage. Meghan should know that constant bending and stooping while carrying weight is bad for your back.

Oh, wait...

[quote] Now that we see Archie has the height and build of a 3/4 year old, you have to wonder what possessed the Duchess to hold this behemoth child while she was picking up errant socks and toys

Now that you mention it, Archie is HUGE at R84. I never noticed it before.

That kid is what you would refer to in the United States as a "BRUISER."

Certainly nothing like his delicate cousin George.

I really hope that Archie doesn't end up looking like his grandfather Thomas Markle. That would be sad.

I don't think I've ever seen a fat royal before. I hope that Archie isn't the first.

R95 - We weren't around at the time but Queen Victoria and her son Edward VIII were quite rotund. And don't get me started on King Henry VIII and Queen Anne.

^ Edward The Seventh not Eighth.

Re: the reading video. To be fair, Archie was only one-years-old and most kids cannot sit still for very long. Kids in nursery struggle to sit still at 3, let alone at 1. My niece could not sit still for long at that age, either and she was very active. A child of that age would also be highly inquisitive when there are distractions around i.e books or toys. Plus each child is different and some are calmer than others. We don't know if he was tired or whether he is just very active in general. I noticed Archie could turn the pages beautifully, which shows he is read to and handles books frequently.

I love chubby babies. They're so cute!

That's why I think that Archie is adorable.

Now if he maintains his weight and size into adulthood, that's going to be another story.

He has always been a ginger, you idiot.

You "doubt," R92? Why don't you listen where indicated and you will hear him quite clearly.

The Queen Mother was chunky, and Diana’s father the Earl had a large frame. Not fat like Pa, but he wasn’t slim like Prince Philip either.

The only thing I am interested in is seeing Harry's thick ginger bush. I bet it's nice.

Markle notoriously has been insisting the Harry shave all of his pubic hair because she's "sensitive to dander" and likes the clean look of a younger fellow.

So Archie is a ginger but is he uncut like his daddy?

R104, well, we know she is a FOOL.

A cartoon holiday card. These two always miss the mark. I feel sorry for Archie.

I did listen, r101. All I heard was baby babbling.

[quote] I don't think I've ever seen a fat royal before.

Prince Andrew is a fat shit.

[quote] I did listen, [R101]. All I heard was baby babbling.

He throws a book on the floor and says "can get it," as in "can you get that?" Stringing three words together is quite advanced for a one year old, but most babies can say at least a few words by that age. Throwing stuff to the floor over and over and wanting someone to retrieve it every time is totally typical, if also totally annoying, behavior for babies and toddlers, btw. In fact, everything Archie did in that video was typical of one-year-old babies, who are not exactly known for their long attention spans or ability to sit still.

While it's true that the book was not the most engaging choice for a kid that young, I doubt he'll be scarred for life by sitting through it. It's obviously not the only book he has. I saw nothing in the video to indicate that he's a problem (he actually seems pretty calm for his age) or that his parents are hopelessly incompetent. Some of you have really gone full-blown wackjob over this couple.

And no, I'm not a frau—I've learned this shit from having nieces and nephews and from former jobs in childrens'/educational publishing. And no, I'm

I raised 3 children. Two spoke very early. No, Archie just babbled.

All I got out of that was that MM was clueless.

I was also surprised when he said "Can get it?" (Can you get it?) after he threw the book on the floor. He seems mature for his age.

I don't see Diana in his face...or in the face of any of her grandkids. She must have had some weak genes.

I don't think any of the Sussex kids present or future have much of a chance, looks-wise, because neither Harry nor Meghan has any attractive (original) features to pass on. Bad hair, bad colouring, bad nose, close-set eyes, freckles.

On another topic, Charlotte is an absolute mini-me of Kate in the Cambs' Christmas card.

[quote] No, Archie just babbled.

I dunno, r111. On the one hand, he said "can get it?" quite clearly to my ears and the question made sense in context. On the other hand, it's pretty unusual for a one year old to put a (sort of) complete sentence together, so I suppose it could be just coincidence that he babbled something that sounded a lot like "can get it?" Or maybe he'll crush all the MM obsessives by turning out to be a little genius.

As for her supposed cluelessness, it seemed like she just really wanted to get through the reading of the story, which the article said she was doing to raise funds for a charity. I don't think you can extrapolate from that that this is how she typically reads to the kid. And it's not like he was shrieking with impatience as many babies might have, or even fussing all that much, so really, big deal.

Why couldn't they have waited until a time when Archie was a little more settled rather than forcing the reading? Or maybe changing the diaper. A full diaper will make any baby fussy.

Because the book was from Oprah and Smeg needed it on Smeg's Mirror like yesterday.

R116 is correct. The book has a seal that says, "Archie's Book Club", which was added by Oprah when she gifted Archie with the books at birth.

They didn't need to wait a week to shoot it. Just wait til later in the day. Play with the kid, feed him, wear him out. You can't force a toddler that age into Meghan's filming schedule. Capitalize on his down time.

Its comical how anyone thinks people are "jealous" of Meghan. She's untalented, awkward, homely, has an unattractive figure and zero real accomplishments. Her husband is ugly and her child unattractive. They are a global laughingstock and are failing. Its like Megstans can't see reality.

Jesus christ, are we going to have to hear all about this fuggo nobody for the next 30 years like we've had to hear all about his loser parents?

The baby was calm for his age, r118. Unless you drug him or read to him while he's asleep, that's about as good as you're going to get from a one year old listening to a story, especially a non-interactive one. As others have suggested, they may have kept him more engaged and gotten a cuter video by choosing a book with sounds and textures and such. But this video was cute enough, took a whole five minutes of the kid's life, and certainly wasn't the "massive fail!" or "sad result" that some of you are Mary-ing on about.

R120, you don't HAVE TO hear about anyone. I think this is the first (and will now be the last) time I've ever opened one of these freakshow Megan and Harry threads and I rarely pay attention to news of them in the rest of the world, either.

The kid's behaviour wasn't a "sad result", r121. The obvious tone-deafness of the mother - which you yourself implicitly acknowledge when you note that she *could* have chosen a more interactive book "with sounds and textures and such" - is there for all to see. She instead chose an Oprah-given, merchable book designed for a child several years older than Archie. What does she care, though? Archie was conceived and born to serve her needs, and she needed him that day. And anyway he won't know the difference at one year old, right? End of story.

She comes off in the video as more of a visiting Aunt than an actual mother to the baby.

Having said that, it makes sense, given her focus on money and fame combined with structure of the household around her: She's got at least one nanny (and larger household staff to be friendly to the little fella), a live-in granny and a house-husband who obviously dotes on the kid. when it comes down to it, she only needs Archie for merching and for invoking whenever she wants to write made up things for the NYT.

She told the previous husband that she couldn't have children. She clearly can have children, so it's now clear that in fact she didn't originally want children. Unless they could be used to get her what she really wants: Money and Fame. And Harry's child gets her that. I imagine she does love Archie in many ways, but the video shows there is no deep connection between them: She doesn't feel for him him in that *essential* way that mothers love their children and he seems to barely know who she is.

She'll make loads of money out of him though. Not least via the divorce when ten years of marriage is up and the California law kicks in to afford her a lifetime of spousal maintenance.

Won’t Meghan stronger genes be prominent ?

I think, R122, that she needed lots of help conceiving. When she told her first (?) husband she couldn't have children, she probably meant she couldn't conceive naturally.

As if "help conceiving" is some kind of alien concept in modern-day Los Angeles.

She told the husband it was off the table because she couldn't, not that she wanted to try with IVF.

And THEN comes moneybags Harry....

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She didn't want kids because she feared it would fuck up her looks. She was also afraid it would ruin her career because she would no longer be considered for "hot girl" roles.

Of course she could have chosen a better book, r122; it's just not some big fucking deal that she didn't. More to the point, it's completely ridiculous to imagine you can learn anything meaningful about someone's parenting skills and connection to her child from watching one 3-minute video of her reading a story to the kid. Reading your kid a boring or age-inappropriate picture book is hardly a huge red flag that you're a terrible parent who doesn't care about the kid's needs, even if you did choose the book because Oprah sent it to you. I'd guess pretty much every parent in the world, whether great or shitty, has subjected their kid to a few not-so-hot choices of books and toys. It's not something that warrants going all drama queen over.

Meghan is a narcissist, and narcissists are often attentive parents--that's a little mini-me running around, after all. But once the child gets older and starts to assert their own needs and personality, the relationship can grow fraught.

But he's not a "mini-me" for Meghan, is he, r129?

He is whiter than white can be.

And as we all know from the Sugars, Archie is the first "black" baby in the BRF......

r50 I didn't know Grace Jones had kids. She seemed too cool to be a breeder. O well.

GRACE JONES IS CANCELLED

r82 I never thought I would utter this phrase, but Paris Hilton did it better.

Yes, r133

But I'd bet my life that Meghan Markle would become besties with Paris if it meant she would make money from it

Babies are constantly checking with their mothers. Archie didn't look at her once or even acknowledge her except to struggle against her.

His head is as large as hers. The kid's a chunk.

R84 That "someone off camera" is Harry who was behind the camera shooting the video. Archie wanted to be near his dad. So what? Many baby boys like to engage with their dads, especially playful, expressive dads who make funny faces, laugh, & smile at the baby.

That whole video was uncomfortable. Could they not have changed his diaper and put him in a decent outfit? Could they not have waited to shoot the video when he was more receptive to being read to? They're too lazy to concern themselves with the details and, so, they continue to fail.

Plus, that kid clearly does not spend much time with her. There's no connection there, but, thankfully, he doesn't seem fearful of her (yet).

Yes, Harry was recording it, but the nanny or whoever takes care of Archie was also there. That's who he smiled at after fussing.

He does respond to Harry and I've no doubt Harry loves him, but in photos of the three of them, Harry is the one looking a Archie with love. Meghan smiles but you can see the dollar signs in her eyes.

[quote] Seriously, Archie’s parents both have small eyes, his mom is a bit cross-eyed while his dad has those unfortunate close-set eyes.

He might have strabismus like his cousin Lady Louise. Honestly looks like it.

Whatever happened to their special holiday podcast featuring uplifting content that was to be featured on Spotify? Unless the holiday they aiming for is New Years Day, they missed the boat on that one.

Ha - R133. I was thinking the same exact thing. Meghan is an attractive women, but she is not hot.

Charlotte has a tattletale smirk, you know she’ll tell about ANYTHING.

She looks exactly like Lady Sarah Chatto, which is unfortunate. Because we know how THAT turned out.

Here's some commentary on that so-called "Christmas Card":

The photo for the Christmas card was taken by Meghan Markle’s mother, Doria Ragland.

But the image was doctored into a “cartoon-style” graphic that made it look a lot like an Impressionist painting — a look that apparently infuriated some royal watchers.

A member of the Twitter peanut gallery was not having Meghan Markle’s attempts to put out a Christmas card, saying, “I thought we’d see the real Archie, not a cartoon version.”

“What an odd card,” another disgruntled commentator opined. “Intention is not to show Archie.”

“Why are they hiding their child? Something isn’t right,” one Twitter user lamented about Meghan Markle and Harry’s intentions with their Christmas card.

“A photoshopped cartoon??? Really! Clever way of hiding Archie,” seethed another horrified member of the online mob.

The Daily Mail reports that the cute little playhouse featured in the card was likely custom built to the tune of $7,000 — chump change for a couple that just dropped $14 million for their Montecito mansion.

They're hiding their child so that seeing Archie becomes a big deal and they can flog clear photos of him to the highest bidder.

I don't care about either one of them or their sprog.

Gingers have no souls.

Who cancelled Grace Jones? and WHY?

There had better be a very very good reason.

Oh, and I bet that ginger kid is cross-eyed like his cunt mither and leaves his mouth hanging open like a cretin.

[quote] “What an odd card,” another disgruntled commentator opined. “Intention is not to show Archie.”

[quote] “Why are they hiding their child? Something isn’t right,” one Twitter user lamented about Meghan Markle and Harry’s intentions with their Christmas card.

These things, along with Meghan's insistence on filing suit against anyone who takes an "unauthorized" photo of Archie, clearly tells me that she is trying to make money off of his photos.

She knows that there are people out there who want to see pictures of him, but Meghan being Meghan, there's no way she's giving it away for free. They're going to have to pay.

Seeing the way she is trying to monetize everything, makes me think that maybe she did plan to hook Harry all along, knowing that there were ways that she could make money off of him.

She's just lucky that he was actually interested in her.

If her second child is a girl, some publication is going to have to pony up big bucks or we'll never see the kid. Which would be fine, except you know Meghan will constantly tease seeing the little girl (as she did Archie with this Christmas card) while all the time braying about privacy. William and Kate's method of releasing a select few photos of their kids every few months has the advantage of satiating public curiosity while still leaving their children some privacy to grow up.

The woman is livid that no one cares enough to pay her asking price for photos of the sprog. I predict she will ensure the surrogate carries a female embryo this time. They will then do a photo spread with some cheesy caption like, "Royal Baby Joy after Miscarriage Heartbreak." It will be front page news for a day then, like usual for the Sussex duo, drop off and return them to irrelevance.

Her acting in sex scenes consisted of imitating of a fish out of water with open mouth gasping. Possibly the most unsexy woman on a cable show.

It's a fucking given that marrying a royal will only get her so far on the A-List.

I am shocked she never received an Emmy nomination. Shocked!!

I think they dressed Archie in his underwear to make him seem younger. No way that huge kid was only 12 months old in that video.

[quote] No way that huge kid was only 12 months old in that video.

I'm just big boned.

Those Thomas Markle genes shining through. Sparkle must be pissed.

I liked the card where the baby is crawling toward the camera, which is apparently on the floor (?!) and Meghan is in focus but no-count Harry isn’t. It’s like he is blurred out for privacy.

Don't be mean to Archie.

He can't help it that his parents are... well.... who they are.

Big baby for 12 months.

In the photo above, she must have just applied her fake tanning solution. Her face is a Trump shade of orange.

I don' t think Meghan's holding out for paid pics of Archie (though I imagine she would love to do an Angelina-Jolie-style magazine spread for a huge donation to charity). Part of Harry's shtick is that he was traumatized growing up in a fishbowl, so I think he's the driving force behind all the secrecy surrounding Archie's birth, pics of him, and Meghan's likely current pregnancy.

And who cares about the kid anyway? I'm here for Harry's dopiness and her social climber shenanigans.

I think it's nice that Archie is ginger. Ginger babies are cute.

However, it really demonstrates that Meghan is more white than black (it's obvious that Doria is not 100% AA) and I bet that galls her, given her new calling as a BLM warrior.

Archie was fucking fat in that video of Megsy trying to read to him that book from "Archie's book club" (cringe).

Babies are supposed to be chubby, but he was nothing but overweight.

Undisclosed or undiagnosed Prader-Willi?

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Even when she says his NAME he doesn't respond.

I agree with the poster upthread who said she came across more like a visiting aunt than this child's mother.

Not the ginger Archie I care anything about.

Is Meghan going to make an appearance at the Suits reunion tonight?

[quote] Is Meghan going to make an appearance at the Suits reunion tonight?

She wasn't invited.

If Troian Bellisario is hosting, you can be absolutely assured that Meghan will want in on it. She's Don Bellisario's daughter and as close to Hollywood royalty as one can get. He was the creator and producer of NCIS, Magnum PI, etc, etc. Meghan would not pass up an opportunity to make a new L.A. "friend."

R169 should Meghan not know her already, considering she is married to her costar Patrick J Adams?

I was thinking about the pictures of Peter Phillips’ daughters with George. It made me glad for Megxit. Imagine all the poor “Archie being “bullied” by his royal cousins for being part black” this basic bitch would leak

I'm sure she's met her, r170, but this is an unparalleled networking opportunity for Meghan to "discover" similarities in interests, etc. that could provide a basis for future contact with TB. It's not like Meg can pick up the phone now and suggest getting together. (Not that it would stop her -- she's that grasping.)

Exactly, r171.

Should Archie be put on a diet?

He's already on a diet, but thank you for pouring salt on the wound.

Archie is NOT FAT!!!!

Damn fuckers.

How can anyone not think that Archie is not adorable?

His daddy really seems to love him.

Archie is a cute kid--most healthy babies are. I feel truly sorry for him because with those parents, there is very little chance he won't end up with a miserable childhood.

The Harkles hire two former Buckingham Palace aides on a freelance basis to help with their charitable work. How many people do these two clowns need?

R5 - The playhouse was already on the Montecito property when they bought it. Meghan & Harry did not build that playhouse.

You have spent too much time hanging out at the Daily Mail comment sections.

R115 - How do you KNOW Archie's diaper was full???

Are you a paid troll also on the payroll of the Daily Mail?

Archie speaks. They don't care about using their child for their podcast.

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That's adorable at R182.

He's going to have an American accent.

We want privacy, so we're naming all out moneymaking ventures after our baby. Duh!

Mummy, when will our fat and stupid American cousin Archie come to visit?

Archie will sound, look, and think like an American. Even if his parents divorce and his father goes back to England, his mother will make sure that he never really fits in with the BRF and will never be an active part of the family.

If this were a movie, in about 20 years there would be some terrible accident that would take out the entire Cambridge clan, and the thoroughly Americanized Archie would become heir to the British throne. I'm not saying I want this to happen, I'm just saying it sounds like something from a Netflix drama.

James Corden, actor and chat show host Stacey Abrams, Democrat politician and activist Christina Adane, young British food activist José Andrés, celebrity chef Brené Brown, wellbeing guru and podcaster Rachel Cargle, founded a foundation Deepak Chopra, alternative medicine advocate Matt Haig, writer Sir Elton John, musician Hussain Manawer, poet and mental health activist Naomi Osaka, tennis player Tyler Perry, actor and writer George The Poet, spoken word artist

With the exception of Elton John, almost all of these people are irrelevant and/or unknown.

They're pretty much a bunch of woke hangers-on.

Deepak Chopra is fairly well known. He was on Oprah a lot during her new agey phase. I would put money on Oprah hooking him up with the Harkles.

[quote] If this were a movie, in about 20 years there would be some terrible accident that would take out the entire Cambridge clan, and the thoroughly Americanized Archie would become heir to the British throne.

Rofl R188.

They already made a movie like this.

It's called "King Ralph," starring John Goodman.

This thread is mental illness allowed to run riot.

It's funny how the insane Markle fans are always accusing other people of mental illness.

Little Archie sounds a little slow

[quote]Little Archie sounds a little slow

Look who his father is, are you surprised?

Are we sure that's the real Archie, if there is one, and not one of those adult actors who specializes in dubbing kids voices?

[quote] Are we sure that's the real Archie, if there is one, and not one of those adult actors

I heard that Meghan hired a 26 year old Russian girl named Svetlana to play the part of "Archie."

No matter how often I see this thread topic, I first read it as "Archie is on GRINDR"

[quote] No matter how often I see this thread topic, I first read it as "Archie is on GRINDR"

No.

Harry's on GRINDR, not Archie.

Archewell.com is born. More cringe worthy shit. Of course, Harry just has to have a photo of his mother Diana with the words "I am my mother's son". Meghan counters with "I am our son's mother".

Then they state that they want "to unleash the power of compassion" and their goal is to "build a better world".

Apparently, they were born of virgin births because there is no mention of their fathers. You can't make this shit up.

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You can hear Archie giggle at the end. Very cute, unlike his dad, who sounds demented.

What the hell is a "young British food activist," as referenced in R189.

Meghan and Harry are out of their minds.

I love Daily Mail shade!

[quote] Harry and Meghan, who have fiercely defended Archie's privacy since his birth in May 2019 and filed a lawsuit this year to fight to protect it, encourage their son to talk into the microphone, with Harry telling him: 'You can speak into it.' Meghan also asks: 'Archie, is it fun?'

It's really obvious that Meghan sees her son as a valuable asset to be protected. She keeps him out of the public eye unless he can help market one of her ventures like this podcast. A sighting of Archie has to benefit Meghan in some way, or no dice.

Poor little bugger.

R205, interesting that you called Archie “her son”. Not picking on you, but it’s just a given that she owns and controls everything. He’s their son, he’s performing with both parents - and Harry seems mandated to appear with him always (which is right and fair) - but we all know who’s in charge.

They seem to be living a wonderful life. Wanting privacy doesn't mean they can't share video and photos of the kid themselves - they just don't want to be hounded by the paps.

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I read somewhere that when Sam traveled to The UK for her press junket one of the British commentators complained about a strong odor of stool that got more and more pronounced as the interview continues. Sam got saltier as the interview progressed too, although she repeated mostly the same things she was peddling elsewhere, it turns out that she soiled herself in her wheelchair and due to her MS is unable to feel it happen. The interviewer described the whole experience as “ghastly”.

Someone on Instagram did two renditions of a Sussex daughter - one for each parent.

"Queen Meghan"?

FFS, these Markle loons are so pathetic it's beyond belief.

That's gross, R212.

I'll be sure not to go to a book signing.

The ginger version of Lady Diana Mountbatten-Windsor looks like a glammed up Lady Louise Windsor.

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Poor Archie! To have a father like Harry. Every time Harry opens his mouth, he puts his foot in it. EVERY. TIME.

Like Archie cares. He can barely talk. What he cares about is having a super rich daddy who can buy him all the toys he wants and has provided a house with a huge garden and a swimming pool, close to the beach in a warm climate. Shame the Cambridge brats are stuck in the UK with the snow and ice while Archie basks in 80f.

Shame Archie will grow up with skin cancer under the 100 degree merciless California sun, constantly in cars, a two mile drive taking 45 minutes because of traffic, a vapid life of sunglasses and yoga, air conditioning, and TMZ stalkers taking his pic when he goes out for a green juice.

His royal cousins laugh while riding horses in the heather of Balmoral on a crisp day.

Hilarious that the Klanners said Meghan would regularly sell photos of Archie to the highest bidders. Never happened, and the last photo we got of him is from his first birthday in May 2020.

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The Harkles can't let anything go.

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^ Sorry for the triple posts. It's DL's fault, I swear!

R224 is super invested in DL reading that story, her panties are dripping with delight

'On another topic, Charlotte is an absolute mini-me of Kate in the Cambs' Christmas card.'

Charlotte is massive already and only 5 years old. She'll be a looming 6 footer who looks like a transwoman and she already has a lantern jaw and beady deep set eyes. Meghan has exquisite bone structure and great olive skin. Harry has height and breadth.

we already know what Charlotte will look like, she’s pure Windsor and Bowes-Lyon. She’s going to look exactly like Lady Sarah Chatto and HM in her old age.

For someone who is traumatized when he hears the click of the cameras and who has asked for privacy, Harry doesn't seem to have any problem being filmed with James Corden on a bus in the middle of LA.

Harry was so relaxed he even smiled for the camera.

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Ginger and Morticia mark Black History Month. Did they just roll out of bed?

Someone in another thread posted this photo.

You have to press the arrows to see all five photos.

Archie really IS a ginger, and he has curly hair!

So cute!

You can tell that he is multi-racial.

Archie's baby pictures suggested that you wouldn't be able to tell he comes from a multi-racial background, but as he gets older, you can really tell!

Aw, he's adorable.

Klan Grannies must be so disappointed.

He's so big now!

Not the chubby baby from past photos.

That boy is high yellow!

He looks like Grandpa Tom

He's a cutie!

Who is the other lady and the kids in the photo?

It looks like Jessica Mulroney and her children, R243.

Another Archie sighting!

This time, at the beach.

Haha I love that Archie is wearing a Nirvana shirt.

He could potentially grow up to be a very good looking man.

But with that Windsor blood, it really is hard to tell when they're young.

When William was young, he was adorable. Once he hit his 20's he also hit a wall.

He nose is black

Archie home video at the beach.

Cute!

Archie is really starting to look more like Meghan.

I'm actually surprised by this because he looked to fair when he was a baby.

Now he's looking much more tan. I like it!

don’t they own sunscreen there in California?