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Leonard Roberts Dishes All about HEROES Firing

Cites clashes with Ali Larter as reason for his character getting dumped, possible racism. 10 anonymous crew members back him up. Show's producers compliment him, avoid denying his claims.

Former Heroes star Leonard Roberts says friction with on-screen love interest Ali Larter, coupled with a lack of diversity behind-the-scenes at NBC’s superhero smash, led to him being fired after just one season.

In a lengthy essay published by our sister pub Variety, the actor recounts the instant friction he experienced in Season 1 with Larter, who played Niki Sanders, the wife of his D.L. Hawkins character. “The script suggested D.L. and Niki had a volatile relationship — and it wasn’t long before art was imitating life,” Roberts writes, before describing two instances where the pair clashed. After one of the dustups, “I later gave her a bottle of wine with a note affirming what I believed to be mutual respect and a shared commitment to doing exceptional work,” he explains. “Neither the gift nor the note was ever acknowledged.”

Roberts says a subsequent TVGuide.com blind item (penned by yours truly) about feuding co-stars on an unnamed hit series led to him being summoned to exec producer Dennis Hammer’s office. “Hammer told me not to worry, as the matter was ‘being handled internally,’ and to continue being the professional I had proven myself to be,” Roberts writes. “I quickly learned, though, that while the acting was the vacation, the vocation was being a team player and towing the positive party line in press interviews and media events. I was only interested in dealing with drama that was on the page, but that goal would prove to be elusive.”

Following the conclusion of Season 1 in Spring 2007, Roberts says series creator Tim Kring informed him that, “due to ‘the Ali Larter situation,'” he was being killed off at the start of Season 2. In a follow-up meeting with Kring and Hammer, “Kring said he felt my character had been painted into a corner, due to the fact that ‘we’ didn’t have ‘chemistry,’ and that any attempt to create a new storyline for D.L. just felt like ‘the tail wagging the dog.’ I replied that I found it interesting he had created a world where people flew, painted the future, bent time and space, read minds, erased minds and were indestructible, yet somehow the potential story solution of my character getting divorced left him utterly confounded. I also questioned how a ‘we’ issue could be cited as justification for the firing of ‘me.'”

Roberts says Hammer then urged him, “Don’t think of this as a situation where the Black man loses and the white woman wins.” And that, the actor notes, “was the first time my race was ever acknowledged while I was a part of the show: not for any creative contribution I could make, but for what I believed was the fear of me becoming litigious.”

Despite having three Black series regulars, “There were no Black writers on staff,” Roberts points out. He also recalls a “particularly odd promotional photoshoot” in which “all the Black adult series regulars were relegated to the back and sides of photo after photo because, we were told, we were ‘tall.'”

In a statement to Variety, Kring said, “Looking back now, 14 years later, given the very different lens that I view the world through today, I acknowledge that a lack of diversity at the upper levels of the staff may have contributed to Leonard experiencing the lack of sensitivity that he describes. I have been committed to improving upon this issue with every project I pursue. I remember Leonard fondly and wish him well.”

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by Anonymousreply 194December 21, 2020 11:36 AM

Damn the producers threw her under the bus by not disputing what he said. Not commenting before the article went to press was a stupid move on Larter’s part.

by Anonymousreply 1December 16, 2020 9:14 PM

So according to him, you need a writer to match every actor on the show.

by Anonymousreply 2December 16, 2020 9:23 PM

[quote] and towing the positive party line

Oh, dear!

by Anonymousreply 3December 16, 2020 9:29 PM

It is not throwing someone under the bus if t is true. I have hated that bitch since he got him fired. I also stopped watching the show.

by Anonymousreply 4December 16, 2020 9:32 PM

Amazing that they "couldn't figure ou"t what to do with his character but managed to literally give Larter a new character to play in order to find a way to keep her on the show.

by Anonymousreply 5December 16, 2020 9:36 PM

Neither Roberts nor Larter have a career now so we'll just call it even.

by Anonymousreply 6December 16, 2020 9:38 PM

I thought all that was based on polls ? Like if an actor wasnt liked on a show and tested low they either replaced or wrote him off?

by Anonymousreply 7December 16, 2020 9:38 PM

TVLine doesn’t mention this in their story, but in the original article, he talks about how she had no problems filming overtly sexual scenes with Adrian Pasdar yet she found anything involving love and intimacy with his character beyond disrespectful. Roberts doesn’t explicitly call her racist, but he wonders whether his race played a role in it.

Granted, he later talks about how the executive producers told him Larter was hated by her co-stars for her on-set behavior, so she was awful to more than just him. It’s just that her awfulness to him could’ve been colored by his race.

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by Anonymousreply 8December 16, 2020 9:46 PM

So basically because she dared not find him attractive or didn't buddy up to him she is a racist? Okay then. Didn't she do that movie with Beyonce and Idris Elba where she had some pretty full on scenes with Idris? If she was uncomfortable with black people, especially black guys, she wouldn't have done that film.

by Anonymousreply 9December 16, 2020 10:01 PM

racist or not, she shouldn't have had a hand in his being axed.

that's just selfish.

by Anonymousreply 10December 16, 2020 11:15 PM

She has resting bitch face, active bitch face, boring bitch face and cunting bitch face. Truly blessed

by Anonymousreply 11December 16, 2020 11:37 PM

[quote]I quickly learned, though, that while the acting was the vacation, the vocation was being a team player and towing the positive party line in press interviews and media events.

This is true of literally every job in the world.

by Anonymousreply 12December 16, 2020 11:41 PM

Christ, who cares? The guy was a supporting character no one gave a shit about and this was 15 years ago. Spoiler Alert- this won't help jumpstart your non-existent career, Lenny.

by Anonymousreply 13December 16, 2020 11:47 PM

[quote]So basically because she dared not find him attractive or didn't buddy up to him she is a racist?

It's acting, dear.

She doesn't have to actually find him attractive or be his friend. She did have to get along with him enough to work with him and be professional which she wasn't.

Tim Kring, who created the show, didn't say Roberts was lying. So yes, it happened exactly as he said it did including what they said about it.

by Anonymousreply 14December 16, 2020 11:49 PM

[quote] “There were no Black writers on staff,” Roberts points out.

How many super powered writers did they have?

by Anonymousreply 15December 16, 2020 11:55 PM

I hope this kills his career.

Oh, wait...

by Anonymousreply 16December 17, 2020 12:01 AM

[quote]So according to him, you need a writer to match every actor on the show.

It's good to have writers of a certain gender and ethnicity on the writing staff in order to help guide the writing of the characters of the same gender and/or ethnicity so that the writing doesn't fall into stereotyping. Like in the James Bond film "Die Another Day", the villain asked Halle Berry's character Jinx "Who sent you" and her reply was "Your mama." which was so out of sync in a James Bond film. The production needed someone to look at that line and ask the writers if they would have given that same line to a non-black actor.

by Anonymousreply 17December 17, 2020 2:16 AM

R17 Sounds to much like effort and that might cost money, I think it will be easier if we just fire all the minority actors and keep the writing room white, thank you very much.

by Anonymousreply 18December 17, 2020 2:19 AM

[quote]Sounds to much like

Maybe one of those white writers can help you learn the difference between using "to" and "too".

by Anonymousreply 19December 17, 2020 2:21 AM

R19 Maybe they could, but I wouldn't give a fuck.

by Anonymousreply 20December 17, 2020 2:24 AM

Wow, Ali is in danger.

Time to call Elle Woods for representation!

by Anonymousreply 21December 17, 2020 2:30 AM

Ali has responded:

[quote]“I am deeply saddened to hear about Leonard Roberts’ experience on Heroes and I am heartbroken reading his perception of our relationship, which absolutely doesn’t match my memory nor experience on the show. I respect Leonard as an artist and I applaud him or anyone using their voice and platform. I am truly sorry for any role I may have played in his painful experience during that time and I wish him and his family the very best.”

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by Anonymousreply 22December 17, 2020 3:31 AM

Damage is done, whoever advised her not to comment before the article dropped fucked her over.

by Anonymousreply 23December 17, 2020 3:43 AM

She hasn't acted much in recent years. She's 44 and is married to Hayes MacArthur and they have two young kids.

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by Anonymousreply 24December 17, 2020 3:59 AM

She calls it his perception. Ten people back up his claim. The producers don't deny it.

And as for one his other notes, describing a Black character in a script as "white guy's nightmare"....YIKES.

From TV Guide in 2006: Answer: Eenie, meenie, minie Heroes! If other huge TV hits have taught us anything, it's that great success begets huge ego clashes. So it should come as no surprise that on-screen tensions within one of Heroes' main couples have spilled over into real life. According to multiple unnamed sources who asked not to be identified for fear of having their brains devoured, the female half of this twosome cannot stand to be in the same room as her leading man, let alone make out with him. Coincidentally (or perhaps not), these two have shared only a handful of scenes together in recent weeks. Send me your guesses, and I promise I won't confirm it if you're correct! (I like my brain without teeth marks, too.)

by Anonymousreply 25December 17, 2020 6:03 AM

He was professional, well-liked, and did his job.

She was a bitch on set, unliked by the crew, and they STILL catered to her, a white woman.

by Anonymousreply 26December 17, 2020 6:12 AM

She was a known actress and a draw for many viewers while he was a nobody with no screen presence. I didn’t miss him from the show.

by Anonymousreply 27December 17, 2020 7:23 AM

The thing about you R27 is ... that you are racist.

[quote]I hope this kills his career. Oh, wait...

Most actors don't get more than 1 or 2 long running TV gigs. He has already had one, not counting Heroes. He works consistently. He is a working actor.

And if she's not careful this is going to get her fired from her current gig if enough people raise a stink. He did her a favor by not saying it months ago.

by Anonymousreply 28December 17, 2020 7:33 AM

Oh please.

You could probably fill an auditorium with actors over the years who have got shafted and untreated fairly on TV shows for a variety of likely unfair reasons. Actors of any colour.

Using race as the cause is just being precious and entitled.

Bottom line is if you were lucky enough and talented enough, you'd have a career beyond that one show. Sounds like you didn't and are looking for excuses.

by Anonymousreply 29December 17, 2020 7:45 AM

I believe this. Too bad they took her side. It's a hard enough business as it is. Her apology is cookie cutter and insincere and shows no growth.

by Anonymousreply 30December 17, 2020 8:40 AM

[quote] “There were no Black writers on staff,” Roberts points out. How many super powered writers did they have?

I'm sorry, i usually laugh at people that see racism everywhere, specially when a bitch who's mean to everyone is singled out like that, but as far as writing is concerned, a series must have on staff people that represent the characters of that particular show. The reason many shows feel unauthentic and bad is the lack of diversity, not because of some woke shit, but because there are things only women experience, same for gays, blacks, Latinos. It stands to reason that if you have a black regular on a show you should have at least one black writer to write about it.

I remember that showrunner for The Handmaid's Tale talking about how he needed a consultant to write a storyline about a period or something related to women's birth I can't remember what, thats what I'm talking about.

by Anonymousreply 31December 17, 2020 9:19 AM

R29 sounds like someone I wouldn’t want to be around. Or maybe he didn’t read the piece.

by Anonymousreply 32December 17, 2020 9:22 AM

[quote] She was a bitch on set, unliked by the crew, and they STILL catered to her, a white woman.

Do you know what is the audience for this type of show? It's white straight men, so of course they sacrificed the token black and kept the hot blonde character.

I find Roberts very hot, but her husband is just too hot to be true and he has a great husky voice. He guest starred on a Happy Endings episode where he gets out of a bathroom wearing just underwear, he has a great body too.

by Anonymousreply 33December 17, 2020 9:34 AM

[quote]The script suggested D.L. and Niki had a volatile relationship — and it wasn’t long before art was imitating life,

Dimwit got it backwards. He's definitely punching above his weight with his awkward attempts at erudition.

by Anonymousreply 34December 17, 2020 9:39 AM

[quote]It stands to reason that if you have a black regular on a show you should have at least one black writer to write about it.

Oh, damn. I guess this means my plays will be cancelled. They all have characters of color and/or women.

by Anonymousreply 35December 17, 2020 9:43 AM

The reason I stopped watching HEROES was because the show got whiter and whiter as the series went on. They went from being the most racial diverse show on TV to just another all White cast almost. After the 2nd season I was done. I also hated the fact that the DL character was the only one killed off after the first season. Every damn show was about Sylar. A villain I didn't find particularly compelling considering the fact that they made him all powerful almost from the beginning.

by Anonymousreply 36December 17, 2020 9:55 AM

They did all of that for that ugly bitch Ali Larter? She's not that good looking, she can't act. What's she doing now porn or something? I don't follow her career. Now I just read that she's apologizing to Leonard Roberts. To late. The producers of that show pulled a bait and switch on the audience and it cost them their show. I hope they are happy.

by Anonymousreply 37December 17, 2020 10:00 AM

Wasn’t this show on a decade and a half ago? Why is this news?

by Anonymousreply 38December 17, 2020 10:12 AM

Rehashed workplace issues fourteen years later, seems to be personality problems and the producers took the side of the more bankable actor. But as long as claims of racism can be made then the out of work person can get some attention.

Isn’t Festivus coming up? I guess this is the annual airing of grievances.

by Anonymousreply 39December 17, 2020 10:28 AM

I don't doubt it happened, but it's not like he missed out on much considering the most memorable thing about Heroes now is how quickly it went downhill after season one.

by Anonymousreply 40December 17, 2020 10:34 AM

R36 The show did get awful roughly at the same time they killed off Leonard Roberts, which I found strange. I too stopped watching it shortly thereafter. Shame, I thought they were one of the more interesting plot devices in the show.

by Anonymousreply 41December 17, 2020 10:58 AM

Ali and Leonard being a couple that is

by Anonymousreply 42December 17, 2020 11:19 AM

There was a Legally Blonde Zoom reunion a few months ago, and all of the main cast members made appearances (except Linda Cardellini and Victor Garber). I swear, the entire cast pretty much ignored Ali Larter despite the fact she had one of the more significant roles. Nobody acknowledged her except the host---during introductions.

by Anonymousreply 43December 17, 2020 11:36 AM

[Quote]  she doing now porn or something?

She was on a show called Pitch with Mark Paul Gosselar. But it got cancelled after the first season.

by Anonymousreply 44December 17, 2020 3:05 PM

One of my fav. PA memories was when I was in an elevator with Larter, who demanded her call time, which I didn't know. She spent the rest of the elevator angrily lecturing that a PA should always (!) know her schedule. I then unhelpfully clarified that I didn't work on her show..

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by Anonymousreply 45December 17, 2020 3:27 PM

R44, she is the reason I did not watch that show.

by Anonymousreply 46December 17, 2020 5:22 PM

"Rehashed workplace issues fourteen years later, seems to be personality problems and the producers took the side of the more bankable actor. But as long as claims of racism can be made then the out of work person can get some attention."

When was Ali Larter ever bankable? I guess Republicans will never stop making shit up to trash black men

by Anonymousreply 47December 17, 2020 5:27 PM

So I guess not all blind items are bullshit:

Rehashed workplace issues fourteen years later, seems to be personality problems and the producers took the side of the more bankable actor. But as long as claims of racism can be made then the out of work person can get some attention.

by Anonymousreply 48December 17, 2020 5:27 PM

[quote]After the 2nd season I was done. I also hated the fact that the DL character was the only one killed off after the first season. Every damn show was about Sylar. A villain I didn't find particularly compelling considering the fact that they made him all powerful almost from the beginning.

They found 1000 ways to keep Sylar on the show. Zachary Quinto was great but the show suffered because they just wouldn't find a new bad guy. They did the same for Ali Larter's characters. They killed off one just to replace her with another who was also apparently a series of clones? I remember them then giving Milo's character Peter every damn power under the sun which just made the show hard to watch when he could do anything.

Looking back at a Season 1 cast photo, Tawny Cypress, Santiago Cabrera and Leonard Roberts all were killed off by or in Season 2.

[quote]When was Ali Larter ever bankable?

I think she was in one of those Final Destination films. That's the only thing I saw her in besides Obsessed with Beyonce. I read she was in The Haunting of Hill House but I only vaguely remember her.

[quote]But as long as claims of racism can be made then the out of work person can get some attention.

Claims? The people that ran the show didn't deny that any of it involved race. At no point did they say Ali Larter isn't racist or didn't have race related issues with him -- because she clearly did have an issue with him.

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by Anonymousreply 49December 17, 2020 6:20 PM

Leonard wants to claim that Ali refused to do love scenes with him because he's black even though she'd played Taye Diggs' love interest seven years earlier in House on Haunted Hill and would fuck Idris Elba's lights out in Obsessed two years later.

No, Leonard. Maybe this white chick just didn't want to do love scenes with you because you're an asshole. Or your breath stinks.

by Anonymousreply 50December 17, 2020 8:26 PM

R50 and yet no one is denying his claims that he tried to build a coworker relationship with her and was rebuffed.

by Anonymousreply 51December 17, 2020 8:30 PM

No one is denying she's a bitch, but her dislike of one black guy doesn't automatically make her a racist.

by Anonymousreply 52December 17, 2020 8:39 PM

One has nothing to do with the other, R51. People don't like each other for many reasons. Doesn't necessarily mean it's because of race, gender, sexuality etc. Do you hang out after work with everyone you work with?

by Anonymousreply 53December 17, 2020 8:40 PM

Larter sounds like a huge, racist CUNT

by Anonymousreply 54December 17, 2020 8:41 PM

Ali Larter seems to be hated wherever she goes, and where this is smoke, there is fire. And as a black male who works in the tech industry with white female colleagues, two of whom report to me, I can attest to the you-can't-win nature of any professional interaction between a black man and a white woman. She probably was racist, but R9 is a good example of why it is not exactly easy to call that out.

by Anonymousreply 55December 17, 2020 8:42 PM

R55 For someone who's "hated wherever she goes" she sure does work a lot including on the latest season of The Rookie. One would think if what you said was true, her career would have stopped dead like it did with Linda Fiorentino. It's not as if Ali has ever been a box office name which would have made Hollywood think twice about tossing her on the scrap heap. She's always just been a journeyman actress who was wise to brand herself by starring in a few horror and sci-fi projects. If she really was "hated wherever she goes" they would have replaced her long ago. Not kept rewarding her with role after role.

This "evil white woman" narrative that gained popularity with the Karen videos is quite boring now.

by Anonymousreply 56December 17, 2020 8:51 PM

They not only killed off anyone who was anything but white but they also killed off or dumped everyone who could actually act probably also to appease that wooden block of cunt.

by Anonymousreply 57December 17, 2020 8:54 PM

R53 A coworker relationship doesn't mean going out for Happy Hour. It means doing the job with a level of civility. He claims, and no one denies, that she refused his attempts to do that.

by Anonymousreply 58December 17, 2020 8:54 PM

I have Season 1 on Blu-ray. I call it the complete series. Not because he got killed off, because the writing crashed harder than a Ryan Murphy show.

by Anonymousreply 59December 17, 2020 8:55 PM

R58 He never says she didn't act professionally on the set. She just ignored his bottle of cheap plonk and his love note. That doesn't make her a racist, a cunt, or a criminal.

by Anonymousreply 60December 17, 2020 8:58 PM

It sounds like the guy is reaching. I didn’t even know he existed. He wants money and woke points or something. Like someone said earlier, Ali was more than happy to submit to Idris. Lol.

by Anonymousreply 61December 17, 2020 9:00 PM

"Variety corroborated Roberts’ account with 10 people who either worked on “Heroes” at the time or were contemporaneously familiar with his experience on the show. When reached for comment with a detailed summary of what Roberts wrote, Larter did not provide any comment, while Kring and executive producer Dennis Hammer both praised Roberts, and did not dispute his account.

Hammer stepped in. He said he needed me to know I was “loved” and my co-star was “hated” by many for her behavior, saying it as if I would join in. I didn’t; I just wanted to be able to do my job and do it well. Hammer then made it clear he would deny what he said if I went public with said revelation. I pointed out it was absurd to hear that, given that when the meeting concluded, my co-star would be the one still with a job and I would be the one painfully unemployed. Hammer said I needn’t worry, suggesting I would undoubtedly move on from “Heroes” and still be working in 10 years.

by Anonymousreply 62December 17, 2020 9:02 PM

[quote] “I am deeply saddened to hear about Leonard Roberts’ experience on Heroes and I am heartbroken reading his perception of our relationship, which absolutely doesn’t match my memory nor experience on the show. I respect Leonard as an artist and I applaud him or anyone using their voice and platform. I am truly sorry for any role I may have played in his painful experience during that time and I wish him and his family the very best.”

R52 R53 R29 R16

She didn't deny it. She just said, she doesn't remember that

by Anonymousreply 63December 17, 2020 9:04 PM

Whether it's because he's Black or not, she hated him for no obvious reason. It may have been a factor, it may not, but it's not crazy for him to question it.

LOL R45

by Anonymousreply 64December 17, 2020 9:07 PM

R63 How can she deny something she doesn't remember?

by Anonymousreply 65December 17, 2020 9:07 PM

R64 If someone doesn't like you, do you automatically assume it's because you're gay? Or because of your skin color?

by Anonymousreply 66December 17, 2020 9:10 PM

R66 He never says definitively, he says it could've been a factor. And if someone I just met had a problem with me for no obvious reason, I would wonder if prejudice was a factor.

by Anonymousreply 67December 17, 2020 9:17 PM

Uh huh, R67. He never comes right out and says it but he makes sure to throw plenty of chum into the water so everyone (like you) jumps to the conclusion that she's a big old racist white bitch.

And if you automatically think being gay is why people don't like you, then you're paranoid. I don't like you and it's not because you're gay. It's because you're a fucking idiot.

by Anonymousreply 68December 17, 2020 9:21 PM

You seem really invested in this, r68.

by Anonymousreply 69December 17, 2020 9:25 PM

Likewise. Any more threads you're going to follow me around on like a stray yapping dog?

by Anonymousreply 70December 17, 2020 9:27 PM

Um, if you are talking to me, r69, you may want to ignore-dar me. First time responder.

by Anonymousreply 71December 17, 2020 9:29 PM

R71 I just did. This is the third time you're responding to me in this thread. Busted!

by Anonymousreply 72December 17, 2020 9:31 PM

You are literally out of your mind, r72.

by Anonymousreply 73December 17, 2020 9:33 PM

r72 and r73 =

Leonard Roberts and Ali Larter

by Anonymousreply 74December 17, 2020 9:35 PM

My only earlier post in this thread is r3, which was responding to the article at the OP.

by Anonymousreply 75December 17, 2020 9:36 PM

She as a current American adult woman in the arts can be expected to treat everyone fairly in regards to race. If she had a problem with a black man he doesn’t get to question whether the problem is because he’s black. That basically gives him open access to act any old way to her and then if she objects hurt her by saying she’s a racist.

by Anonymousreply 76December 17, 2020 9:39 PM

[quote] This "evil white woman" narrative that gained popularity with the Karen videos is quite boring now.

Was someone saying white women are evil? Jesus, why are Trump so damn stupid and unable to grasp the concept of nuance?

As far as Ali Larter is concerned, she was hardly in demand during the period since Heroes up to, well, now. She is best known for Heroes and Obsessed and those were over a decade ago. If she is getting roles today on the Hallmark Channel or whatever it's probably because white women, while not necessarily evil, do receive a lot more second chances than everyone else.

by Anonymousreply 77December 17, 2020 9:46 PM

And yet R76 not a single solitary person is saying that HE was an issue on set

by Anonymousreply 78December 17, 2020 9:49 PM

The nerve of her not wanting to take her top off and jump on his dick in a film scene.

And the nerve of the writers not wanting to meet with an actor to get his feedback. I'm sure his many years of screenwriting experience would help them.

by Anonymousreply 79December 17, 2020 9:52 PM

R77 Yes, they have. On here and at TVLine and elsewhere where this is being discussed. Next question?

R78 Probably because nobody remembers who the fuck he is. He wasn't famous then and he's not famous now.

R79 I know. Who does he think he is? Ray Fisher?

by Anonymousreply 80December 17, 2020 9:55 PM

This all sounds very similar to how Sarah Michelle Gellar was perceived by the cast and crew of buffy in its later seasons, she was busy with other projects and treated the show like a workplace, she wasn't chummy and hanging out with everyone all the time and so she had the reputation as a bitch.

by Anonymousreply 81December 17, 2020 10:00 PM

They didn’t ask her to take off her top r79, they asked her to if she would put the strap of her top down. She had no issue doing a more explicit scene with Adrian pasdar.

It’s telling that the director and show runner aren’t disputing what he wrote, nor are any of her costars coming to her defense. She was given an opportunity by variety to respond before the story went to print but was either advised not to or didn’t think it was important enough to do so. Now the shit has hit the fan and she’s getting thrown to the wolves.

by Anonymousreply 82December 17, 2020 10:01 PM

When she calls his story a "perception" but says she didn't have the same "experience" she's all but denying it.

by Anonymousreply 83December 17, 2020 10:04 PM

R82 Maybe she was comfortable with Adrian as a person, and I guess judging by Obsession she was comfortable with Idris, this failed actor sounds needy and annoying.

by Anonymousreply 84December 17, 2020 10:05 PM

I'm sorry, but I don't think Larter has to explain why she felt more comfortable in a sex scene with Pasdar than with Roberts. Those are her own reasons. Lots of woman-shaming.

by Anonymousreply 85December 17, 2020 10:05 PM

She's a racist cunt. That's not woman shaming, that's calling her what she is.

by Anonymousreply 86December 17, 2020 10:09 PM

Sorry, but it’s possible for a bunch of things to add up to a probable conclusion. What about the cast photo where they stuck all the black actors on her periphery? Yeah, I can and will read into that. They wanted to convey to the potential audience that this was a white show. You don’t compose a press photo without thinking about gender and racial composition.

And overall it’s appalling that the showrunner let Larter have her way. In what work setting can a manager get away with telling someone they’re losing their job because a co-worker doesn’t want to work with them? Kring and Larter both come off terribly.

And stop putting down the guy. He’s not a superstar but he works steadily. I remember him from his arc on Mom and he’s really good.

And maybe she was in other productions with black men and didn’t pull that. It’s not dispositive that she’s a racist. She likely didn’t have the same power.

I don’t know for sure that she’s racist... only that she’s a crappy person... but it’s fair for the actor to share his experience. You can’t tell me black Hollywood has as easy a time of it as white Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 87December 17, 2020 10:11 PM

If you have an issue with a coworker, especially someone you have to work closely with, and they attempt to clear things up (not to be best friends, but to be able to work in a civil manner), and you refuse them, then the tension/drama, etc, whatever you want to call it, becomes your fault.

by Anonymousreply 88December 17, 2020 10:12 PM

What R88 said.

by Anonymousreply 89December 17, 2020 10:13 PM

Love how on DL, these morally superior posters call her "racist" and in the same sentence call her a "cunt".

Again, WOMAN-SHAMING.

by Anonymousreply 90December 17, 2020 10:15 PM

R78 Issue on set doesn’t equal racist.

by Anonymousreply 91December 17, 2020 10:20 PM

[quote]Sorry, but it’s possible for a bunch of things to add up to a probable conclusion. What about the cast photo where they stuck all the black actors on her periphery? Yeah, I can and will read into that. They wanted to convey to the potential audience that this was a white show. You don’t compose a press photo without thinking about gender and racial composition.

Anyone can do a Google search and see that there were multiple cast photos for the show and in all but one the races and genders were weaved in. In fact, in the first one I saw, Ali was standing in front right next to (and facing) Sendhil Ramamurthy.

[quote]And overall it’s appalling that the showrunner let Larter have her way. In what work setting can a manager get away with telling someone they’re losing their job because a co-worker doesn’t want to work with them? Kring and Larter both come off terribly.

She was a name before the show began thanks to hits like Final Destination 2, Legally Blonde, House on Haunted Hill, and Varsity Blues. Of course they were going to keep her and get rid of the nobody. Plus consider the audience for this show. Sci-fi nerds. You really think they're going to ditch the hot blonde?

[quote]And stop putting down the guy. He’s not a superstar but he works steadily. I remember him from his arc on Mom and he’s really good.

You must be new here.

[quote]And maybe she was in other productions with black men and didn’t pull that. It’s not dispositive that she’s a racist. She likely didn’t have the same power.

So, according to you, she's damned if she does and damned if she doesn't in regard to her being a "racist". Gotcha.

[quote]I don’t know for sure that she’s racist... only that she’s a crappy person... but it’s fair for the actor to share his experience. You can’t tell me black Hollywood has as easy a time of it as white Hollywood.

How do you "know for sure" that she's a crappy person? Have you met her? When? In what situation? Did you fuck up her order at Starbucks? Did she reject your shitty script when you accosted her in public with it? Spill.

by Anonymousreply 92December 17, 2020 10:21 PM

[quote] Again, WOMAN-SHAMING.

Cradle your mug, hunty

by Anonymousreply 93December 17, 2020 10:21 PM

What's wrong with a white show? There are black shows.

by Anonymousreply 94December 17, 2020 10:22 PM

Am I the only one who keeps thinking this thread title says “...HEROES fisting” whenever it gets bumped to the top of the topic list?

by Anonymousreply 95December 17, 2020 10:22 PM

Cradle your misogyny r93.

by Anonymousreply 96December 17, 2020 10:24 PM

This is like Aunt Viv bitching about Fresh Prince for 30 fucking years . Get over it you fucking crybabies . NOBODY cares Leonard.

by Anonymousreply 97December 17, 2020 10:25 PM

Go to Lipstick Alley, cunt.

by Anonymousreply 98December 17, 2020 10:25 PM

Aunt Viv, this guy from heroes and that guy from Justice league... they have something in common.

by Anonymousreply 99December 17, 2020 10:26 PM

Lipstick Alley is too busy wondering if this guy is just pissed that a white woman turned him down since they assume he has a white girlfriend.

by Anonymousreply 100December 17, 2020 10:27 PM

Well as for being a crappy person R92 theres R45...

You either work at her agency or you've watched Final Destination WAY too many times

by Anonymousreply 101December 17, 2020 10:30 PM

She’s besties with black Garcelle beuvais. This dude is an ass.

by Anonymousreply 102December 17, 2020 10:33 PM

R101 You're assuming that random guy is telling the truth and not just making shit up to jump on the bandwagon du jour in the hopes of getting more followers. Thus you DON'T "know for sure" that she's a "crappy person" because you've never actually met her.

by Anonymousreply 103December 17, 2020 10:33 PM

[quote]Leonard wants to claim that Ali refused to do love scenes with him because he's black even though she'd played Taye Diggs' love interest seven years earlier in House on Haunted Hill and would fuck Idris Elba's lights out in Obsessed two years later. No, Leonard. Maybe this white chick just didn't want to do love scenes with you because you're an asshole. Or your breath stinks.

You [bold]never[/bold] watched either of those movies, did you, R50?

Taye Diggs was only implied to be her love interest in Hill House. They never even kissed or had love scenes.

The same goes for Idris Elba. They never kissed or had love scenes.

THIS is as close as the two characters got in Obsessed. The whole point was that she was [bold]obsessed[/bold] with him but he [bold]never[/bold] actually cheated on his wife.

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by Anonymousreply 104December 17, 2020 10:33 PM

R104 ah yes you have her nailed! She must be a close personal friend of David Dukes!

Mayne this Leonard guy gives off bad vibes and she wasnt comfortable with him. Or would you rather the black guy be the victim again as they all seem to be these days? Maybe if he attacked a pregnant we would all have protests on his behalf.

by Anonymousreply 105December 17, 2020 10:39 PM

*pregnant woman

by Anonymousreply 106December 17, 2020 10:40 PM

Amy Smart.

by Anonymousreply 107December 17, 2020 10:42 PM

Elba in 2009 had a lot more clout then this guy did in 2006.

by Anonymousreply 108December 17, 2020 10:44 PM

Complaints from secondary characters from a third rate show from 15 years ago?? My goodness, the lounge has slipped.

by Anonymousreply 109December 17, 2020 10:45 PM

[Quote] She calls it his perception. Ten people back up his claim. The producers don't deny it.

But didn't the producers do her bidding - or at least that's Roberts' perception?

by Anonymousreply 110December 17, 2020 10:46 PM

FRAUTRAGE!

FRAUTRAGE!

FRAUTRAGE!

FRAUTRAGE!

FRAUTRAGE!

FRAUTRAGE!

by Anonymousreply 111December 17, 2020 10:46 PM

Is she brigette Wilson Sampras ?

by Anonymousreply 112December 17, 2020 10:52 PM

[quote] Leonard wants to claim that Ali refused to do love scenes with him because he's black even though she'd played Taye Diggs' love interest seven years earlier in House on Haunted Hill and would fuck Idris Elba's lights out in Obsessed two years later. No, Leonard. Maybe this white chick just didn't want to do love scenes with you because you're an asshole. Or your breath stinks.

Given her statement on their cover not selling as much I think she just didn't think they had chemistry together or that their pairing could hurt her brand.

As for the producers no one ever claimed racism were at play, but of course your confirmation bias will read anything into it, like that crazy lady writing a column assuming someone complimenting her kids and husband at a resort were being racist. All the producers said was that he had a hard time with her, and the fact they sided with her is all you need to know.

Some people are just damaged and will see racism and homophobia everywhere, people like that could benefit from therapy. Im not even saying her motives couldn't have been racist, but we'll never know because we can't read minds. She had scenes with black guys before, so the most probable cause was that she just didn't like him, and apparently no one liked her either.

by Anonymousreply 113December 17, 2020 10:54 PM

Ali Larter could take BBC in every hole at once on Only Fans every day for the next decade and R104 would still insist she's an Evil Witch Bitch with a plantation full of slaves and maids and a MAGA hat on the top shelf of her her closet.

by Anonymousreply 114December 17, 2020 10:55 PM

Let’s see rumors are put out that two costars hate each other and are at each other’s throats, one gets fired so now he’s perceived as the problem whether that’s true or not. His career suffers because of it.

Weinstein planted fake rumors about actresses for years that derailed their careers.

by Anonymousreply 115December 17, 2020 10:56 PM

R104 is the black guy who complains about white guys ignoring him on grindr, while he ignores other black guys.

by Anonymousreply 116December 17, 2020 10:56 PM

So many leaking racist cunts so few vodka soaked tampons.

by Anonymousreply 117December 17, 2020 11:03 PM

R117's mother must have really done a number on him. Everything is "cunts" and "tampons" with that loon. Yikes. What a posting history.

by Anonymousreply 118December 17, 2020 11:10 PM

My mother is a kind lovely woman R118 and we all know that gay men can often be bigger cunts than most women ever could, such as yourself.

by Anonymousreply 119December 17, 2020 11:14 PM

This thread isn't about you, dear.

BLOCK!

by Anonymousreply 120December 17, 2020 11:18 PM

[quote] There was a Legally Blonde Zoom reunion a few months ago, and all of the main cast members made appearances (except Linda Cardellini and Victor Garber). I swear, the entire cast pretty much ignored Ali Larter despite the fact she had one of the more significant roles. Nobody acknowledged her except the host---during introductions.

I'm watching it right now and that is just not true.

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by Anonymousreply 121December 17, 2020 11:18 PM

R121 Liars lie. What do you expect?

by Anonymousreply 122December 17, 2020 11:21 PM

r77, "while not necessarily evil" - Listen to yourself.

by Anonymousreply 123December 17, 2020 11:37 PM

Ali Larter is not A list nor will she ever be. But it's silly to say that she's not in demand. She has worked pretty much nonstop.

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by Anonymousreply 124December 17, 2020 11:40 PM

Leonard Roberts works a lot too. I wonder what he's hoping to achieve with this article. Is he hoping to end her career?

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by Anonymousreply 125December 17, 2020 11:42 PM

I’m a white witch and I’d be on knees in 2 seconds for Idris but not this black incel Leonard

by Anonymousreply 126December 17, 2020 11:50 PM

If she disliked him, odds are it was because he was a jerk. Of course she may have wanted him out of there so she could do bigger and better things on the show than be his love interest, but if she actively disliked him the likeliest reason is that. well, he wasn't likable.

Because can you believe that a man who'd imply that everyone on the show was racist might not be all sweetness and light?

by Anonymousreply 127December 17, 2020 11:53 PM

Could she be more generic?

by Anonymousreply 128December 17, 2020 11:58 PM

Ah yes, he must've been a jerk but yet the producers go on the record complimenting him in the story. They could've easily declined a comment or said "I don't remember what happened 14 years ago"

by Anonymousreply 129December 18, 2020 12:00 AM

Yes, R129. They complimented him after firing him 14 years ago. What a winner.

by Anonymousreply 130December 18, 2020 12:04 AM

R129 Like hell they were going to criticize a black man in the current climate.

by Anonymousreply 131December 18, 2020 12:12 AM

10 people who worked on the set backed his account. The fact that that the show runner and director didn’t back her or dispute his account could be that he’s correct or larter was an asshole and with so many years passed since the show ended they can throw her under the bus.

by Anonymousreply 132December 18, 2020 12:21 AM

Rabbit faced bitch

by Anonymousreply 133December 18, 2020 12:22 AM

[Quote] They could've easily declined a comment or said "I don't remember what happened 14 years ago"

In the year of George Floyd?

by Anonymousreply 134December 18, 2020 12:22 AM

Her response to this controversy is excellent, very well worded.

by Anonymousreply 135December 18, 2020 12:23 AM

And crafted by a PR firm, of course.

by Anonymousreply 136December 18, 2020 12:25 AM

R132 Being an asshole doesn't automatically also make you a racist. Maybe she was uppity because she was one of a handful of actors on that show that was already a name. So what?

by Anonymousreply 137December 18, 2020 12:35 AM

R136 Well yeah? It's Hollywood, everything is PR.

by Anonymousreply 138December 18, 2020 12:52 AM

I guess he was hoping she'd be the "Lea Michele" of the last days of 2020.

by Anonymousreply 139December 18, 2020 12:58 AM

She was a minor name r137 and by the end of the first season she was overshadowed by most of her co stars.

by Anonymousreply 140December 18, 2020 1:17 AM

R140 Doesn't matter. She was a name who people who watch that kind of show (a sci-fi show) would know because she'd appeared in a number of sci-fi and horror projects over the years. She may not have been a name mentioned at the Oscars but the sci-fi and horror convention circuits damn well know she is. And that's why the powers that be kept her and got rid of the guy.

by Anonymousreply 141December 18, 2020 1:20 AM

Larter was disposable before the first end of the first season. Her costars overshadowed her after the first few episodes of the show. Perhaps Roberts wasn’t the reason their EW issue didn’t sell.

Again I see no one coming to her defense or disputing what Roberts said. He was the one damaged by this not her.

by Anonymousreply 142December 18, 2020 1:33 AM

Nor has any name spoken out about their experiences, as in the Lea Michele situation.

by Anonymousreply 143December 18, 2020 1:35 AM

Exactly. Larter isn't a shit-in-your-wig kind of girl.

by Anonymousreply 144December 18, 2020 2:50 AM

R81 and Leonard was on Buffy during season 4.

by Anonymousreply 145December 18, 2020 2:59 AM

There are too many pr blunders to mention, her response is pitch perfect

by Anonymousreply 146December 18, 2020 3:12 AM

Thank God they didn't ask her to act her apology.

by Anonymousreply 147December 18, 2020 3:15 AM

Scroll down the comments from the Variety tweet. Even Krista Vernoff, the showrunner of Grey's Anatomy, commented on it in support as well as other actors.

It'd be fun to know who the 10 other people who backed his story that were involved with the show were. I wouldn't be shocked if some of them were actors from it. I did see one of them RT the story. Many of the other ones don't use twitter frequently.

Ali Larter's ass is grass.

by Anonymousreply 148December 18, 2020 3:40 AM

Ah yes, Greys Anatomy where they held onto the homophobic black lead actor until they were practically forced to drop him and then brought him back for a guest role.

by Anonymousreply 149December 18, 2020 10:50 AM

Nobody involved with Grey's Anatomy is in a position to lecture others on toxic behavior. It's rampant on that production from the top down yet they all like to act woke as fuck in public. Emphasis on act.

The problem with Heroes was the writing. People loved the first season and then it nose dived in quality in season two. That had nothing to do with Ali Larter or anyone else in the cast. It was due to the writers and the network.

What does Leonard Robert hope to get out of bringing this up 14 years later? If he'd been fired from the show last week, I could see why he would. He'd be trying to salvage his reputation so he can still get work. But 14 years later? Why bother? He's been working quite a lot doing one or two episode gigs on multiple shows. What are his intentions bringing it up now? I've worked with assholes before but I don't regurgitate 14 year old shit.

I still suspect he hit on her, she turned him down and he got pissy and made her uncomfortable to the point the producers finally chose to get rid of him. Notice, while he throws plenty of innuendo around he makes sure to stop short of coming right out and accusing her of the things he's implying she's guilty of so he won't be sued and to give himself another wiggle room to eventually say "Oh well, that's just how I felt..."

by Anonymousreply 150December 18, 2020 11:36 AM

you're so right about the writing, the first season was appointment viewing, then it became gradually clear the writers had no idea where to go with all that build up

by Anonymousreply 151December 18, 2020 12:03 PM

“I later gave her a bottle of wine with a note affirming what I believed to be mutual respect and a shared commitment to doing exceptional work,”

I'm I the only one that finds this weird? If I argued with someone, I wouldn't gift them a bottle of wine. This looks like an apology to me.

by Anonymousreply 152December 18, 2020 1:21 PM

[quote] She’s besties with black Garcelle beuvais.

I think you're confusing her with Ali Landry.

by Anonymousreply 153December 18, 2020 3:08 PM

"Ah yes, he must've been a jerk but yet the producers go on the record complimenting him in the story. "

Producers have nothing to gain by telling the truth about friction on the set, and they might lose by making enemies or attracting bad publicity, so they usually stick to the usual party line which is something like "Everything was great, whatshisface was a comsumate professional and we'd be glad to work with him again".

I still suspect him of being a jerk and he certainly has no perspective, if he's still resentful that he wasn't in the center of group photos when he had a fairly minor role.

by Anonymousreply 154December 18, 2020 4:46 PM

He's hardly on the edge of this cast photo. Actually he's closer to the middle than Ali. (Click on the photo as the thumbnail crops out those on the edges).

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by Anonymousreply 155December 18, 2020 6:01 PM

Still not on the edge.

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by Anonymousreply 156December 18, 2020 6:02 PM

This isn't the first time she's been called out as being a bitch.

by Anonymousreply 157December 18, 2020 7:26 PM

R157 Again, just because you're a bitch doesn't automatically mean you're also a racist. There are plenty of non-racist bitches and plenty of racists who aren't bitches.

By the way, there are very few celebrities who haven't had a bad word said about them by someone.

by Anonymousreply 158December 18, 2020 8:47 PM

DL= he must be at fault

Witnesses, producers, Larter herself = say nothing about wrongdoing on his part.

by Anonymousreply 159December 18, 2020 9:06 PM

I didn't say she was a "racist bitch" R158 I just said she's known to be a "raging bitch".

by Anonymousreply 160December 18, 2020 9:09 PM

And yet where all these transgressions of her being a bitch and a bully to co-stars? Crews?

With Lea Michele, it was like one after the other. I have heard little about Larter since Roberts' story. He responded to her apology. What is he getting out of this?

And Krista from Grey's responding? Please, bitch. You got rid of Sarah Drew and Jessica Chastain because there was no more story and yet Ellen Pompeo got a bigger paycheque and you kept characters who were less popular (and less expensive) than April and Arizona, and as has been said before, Shonda didn't want to get rid of that homophobe and even brought him back for an episode (when T.R. Knight had left the show). They are absolute hypocrites. Same with Ellen "it's above my pay grade" Pompeo.

by Anonymousreply 161December 18, 2020 10:06 PM

Why an article now?? The show as been off the air forever and I had to look him up on imdb to figure out who he was.

by Anonymousreply 162December 18, 2020 10:11 PM

Ali Larter was a Holiday 2001 GAP model!

Give A Little Bit!

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by Anonymousreply 163December 18, 2020 10:15 PM

Not much to look at.

by Anonymousreply 164December 19, 2020 1:15 AM

He's really plain. Hope he lives up to the stereotype.

by Anonymousreply 165December 19, 2020 2:28 AM

[quote]And yet [R76] not a single solitary person is saying that HE was an issue on set

Who would dare side with the white lady over the black guy?

by Anonymousreply 166December 19, 2020 3:49 AM

R165 I have my doubts, he gives off some major small dick energy.

by Anonymousreply 167December 19, 2020 4:18 PM

Miss Rabbit Face Lartner has spoken, r167

by Anonymousreply 168December 19, 2020 4:49 PM

I will not say she is racist but my understanding is she did not want her character to be in a relationship with his character. She wanted to be paired with either Milo or Adrian. She went to great lengths to make Leonard miserable and later to get him fired. As to why she keeps working, maybe she gives good blow jobs.

by Anonymousreply 169December 19, 2020 5:11 PM

Read about her start in the industry, it's a joke. Literally.

by Anonymousreply 170December 19, 2020 5:18 PM

Maybe he should have asked her if she was okay.

by Anonymousreply 171December 19, 2020 7:13 PM

[quote]I still suspect he hit on her, she turned him down and he got pissy and made her uncomfortable to the point the producers finally chose to get rid of him.

Then Ali would have said that. The Karens would have backed her. Sexual harassment discussions would have happened. It would have all backfired on Leonard. But she didn't say it because [bold]it never happened.[/bold]

[quote]If I argued with someone, I wouldn't gift them a bottle of wine. This looks like an apology to me.

They did a scene together. Her character was batshit crazy on the show with two personalities. His character I think was a convict. Their characters had a lot of issues with each other. They were doing a scene and started getting angry in character and he thought she was still angry at him after the scene because of what happened in the scene. So he gave her that and the note to reaffirm that there wasn't any anger beyond that. I don't see anything wrong with that at all. It seems to be a gift you give someone when you don't know what you did wrong.

[quote]Again, just because you're a bitch doesn't automatically mean you're also a racist.

The question is: was she a bitch because she didn't like him or was she a bitch because he was black and her character was in a relationship with his where they had to be intimate?

Variety went out of their way to back his story by speaking with multiple sources and they found the story to be true but some people (here) in the peanut gallery who never met either of them or worked on the show are so sure that he was the problem. No one has denied any of it which they could have. If she's such a has been actress than there is no reason to be scared of her. Hell, the best Ali could do was pull an, "I don't recall." I don't know why so many people are in a rush to excuse her. What did she ever do for you?

by Anonymousreply 172December 19, 2020 10:52 PM

R172 What makes you think nobody in this thread has met either of the subjects under discussion? You're a presumptuous cunt.

by Anonymousreply 173December 19, 2020 10:54 PM

"Variety went out of their way to back his story by speaking with multiple sources and they found the story to be true but some people (here) in the peanut gallery who never met either of them or worked on the show are so sure that he was the problem."

Did they pick people on the show at random, or did they talk to people he recommended? Where those people asked leading questions such as "Was Roberts a lovely person and well-liked?"? I ask because as I said above, the default behavior in Hollywood is to refuse to discuss inside information such as on-set friction with the press and to just give boilerplate compliments if asked, that's a situation where nobody who wasn't directly involved has anything to gain from telling the truth.

Maybe he was a jerk, maybe she was a bitch. But if she was a bitch, which is likely enough considering actresses, it's more likely that R49 is correct and her main issue was wanting a better role on the show than being Roberts's SO. I say that without knowing anything about either personality, because while there definitely are racists in Hollywood, not everyone you'd find on the cast of a major TV show is a racist... but everyone in the cast of a major TV show IS going to be cutthroat ambitious.

by Anonymousreply 174December 20, 2020 2:32 AM

Roberts's reputation even if it is suspect is still better than Larter's known reputation.

by Anonymousreply 175December 20, 2020 6:36 AM

I still can't believe we live in a world now where people can go public with what happened to them.

for decades, it was -- suck it up, buttercup, if you want to stick around.

Assholic stars and producers and directors must be ......worried to say the least.

by Anonymousreply 176December 20, 2020 7:12 AM

[quote]Did they pick people on the show at random, or did they talk to people he recommended? Where those people asked leading questions such as "Was Roberts a lovely person and well-liked?"? I ask because as I said above, the default behavior in Hollywood is to refuse to discuss inside information such as on-set friction with the press and to just give boilerplate compliments if asked, that's a situation where nobody who wasn't directly involved has anything to gain from telling the truth.

They said they talked to people who were familiar with the incidents who substantiated his claims, R174 and they also granted them anonymity as they're all still working in the industry. They also said they attempted to contact everyone he mentioned by name. Adrian Pasdar didn't get back to them. Ali Larter's reps spoke to them off the record. Then she made a separate statement to TV Line. Beyond that we don't know the exact questions but it's obvious they didn't just go by his story. They even went back and verified that his characters description was, "a white man's nightmare" in the original pilot script. Tim Kring's response was not a "boilerplate" response and he accepted responsibility for his part in the writing department. Not a single anonymous person defended Larter and in fact, according to variety, said she was a divisive force on the set.

While I agree with the other part of your statement to an extent, thanks to the state of the world we live in today, Leonard Roberts (who has worked every year except for the year after he was written off of Heroes) is the one that would be hurt by this if any part of it wasn't true enough that it could be verified or supported by outside parties. Variety isn't a garbage tabloid.

by Anonymousreply 177December 20, 2020 8:02 AM

The more likely scenario from all that we have read is that this woman is/was a bitch, this guy was also insufferable and they didn't get along. Because of his confirmation bias, instead of reading this whole ordeal as a simple dispute for protagonism within a then very successful show he resorted to the perpetual victim mentality and of course blamed racism, something he has no way of knowing because he can't read her mind. The same producers complimenting the actor for his bravery now also fired him back then, so they didn't think this was an issue at all and sided with the bitch. That won't change, no matter how much you try to rewrite reality and pretend everyone knew she was the shrew and blah blah blah.

That's the cold reading of this whole situation. What people backed up was that there was friction on set and they disliked each other, no one backed up claims of racism, because there's no way of knowing this.

It is an unwritten law in the business that you don't trash talk your peers, even if you had bad experiences. People will be wary to work with both from now on, they're both liabilities, the actor for not keeping his mouth shut and her for being canceled already as a racist bitch. Why not go to a therapist to deal with this?

by Anonymousreply 178December 20, 2020 9:53 AM

That's the thing, all these people backing him now, well where were they 15 years ago when he was fired?

by Anonymousreply 179December 20, 2020 10:21 AM

[quote]according to variety, she was a divisive force on the set

R177 The article wasn't written by a writer from Variety thus there was nothing "according to Variety" in it. It was an essay written by Leonard himself. His name is the only one on the byline. In doing so, no journalistic integrity was involved. Now one must ask why Variety handed over valuable space to this guy to badmouth a costar from 14 years ago. It couldn't possibly be to push an agenda, right? Black man = innocent victim. White woman = racist Karen cunt. It practically writes itself doesn't it?

by Anonymousreply 180December 20, 2020 12:07 PM

R180 I can see the editor stroking his stiffy as he read the email from Leonard describing his supposed situation, the clicks, the views... the add revenue and he climaxed harder than ever before.

by Anonymousreply 181December 20, 2020 12:15 PM

Exactly, R181.

Alas the Hollywood trades over the past few years are now no better than the National Enquirer. Just look at Deadline where almost every second article (up until recently at least) has been about Trump. Why? Because they know it generates hits (and lots of comments from people arguing amongst themselves) which means more money for Deadline. Same with the Hollywood Reporter. There's one writer on there (a dyke) who never misses a chance to call out the Hallmark Channel for its "sins". Actually, she was largely responsible for getting the CEO fired earlier this year. Let's not pretend that the trades don't have an agenda.

by Anonymousreply 182December 20, 2020 12:26 PM

So many racist cunts on this thread.

by Anonymousreply 183December 20, 2020 12:37 PM

R183 once again can't post a comment on this thread that doesn't have the word "cunt" in it. Enough about the "racist cunts on this thread." Let's talk about the misogynist pricks on this thread like you instead.

by Anonymousreply 184December 20, 2020 12:41 PM

R183 I think it's more racist to blindly believe a black guy because of a belief that all black people are victims.

by Anonymousreply 185December 20, 2020 12:48 PM

"Cunt" or "racist prick" whichever suits you better R184 R185 you're both pieces of rancid shit.

by Anonymousreply 186December 20, 2020 12:51 PM

R186 And that perfectly sums up your "contribution" to this thread and every other thread on here. Childish drive by insults of other posters ("rancid shit") and a quick opportunity to call a white woman (any white woman) a cunt. Never any actual contribution to any conversation.

You poor unfucked incel.

by Anonymousreply 187December 20, 2020 12:57 PM

You sound like a lot of fun R187 and by fun I mean a sad bitter middle-aged man-hating cat lady who loves a good mug cradling moment.

by Anonymousreply 188December 20, 2020 12:59 PM

How old are you, R188? I'm hoping no more than 14.

by Anonymousreply 189December 20, 2020 1:13 PM

Who and who from what?

by Anonymousreply 190December 20, 2020 1:26 PM

How old are you R189? I'm guessing over 60 and single.

by Anonymousreply 191December 21, 2020 2:06 AM

R191 Wrong on both counts which is why your assumptions of other people are best ignored.

by Anonymousreply 192December 21, 2020 11:14 AM

LOL

All of you MAGA gays going out of your way to defend that average looking racist bitch make me laugh. Typical DL. No matter what evidence is presented in front of you, you will defend your "race" not matter what.

by Anonymousreply 193December 21, 2020 11:29 AM

R193 What evidence? All we have is an essay from a disgruntled unknown actor in which he's too gutless to come right out and accuse people of what he's strongly insinuating.

He really thinks this is going to give his career a boost? And that people losing their jobs and homes during a worldwide pandemic are going to give a shit about his problems from a decade and a half ago?

by Anonymousreply 194December 21, 2020 11:36 AM
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