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How HUGE were La Toya Jackson's balls in the early 90s?

First she posed for Playboy in 1989 & 1991. Something most Black female celebs (even washed up ones) just didn't do. La Toya even showed a little pink!

Then in 1991, she wrote a juicy tell-all book (La Toya: Growing Up in the Jackson Family), in which she accused her father of sexually assaulting her & her sister (Rebbie) for several years. As a child AND as an adult.

And then there was the infamous press conference and endless interviews in 1993. In which she sided with Michael Jackson's accusers and claimed that the whole family knew that he was abusing little boys.

Years later La Toya claimed that her sleazy husband Jack Gordon had brainwashed her and beat her until she said the things she did. Gordon may very well have been abusive, but her conviction while exposing her family makes me think she was telling the truth.

What does DL think? This is shocking stuff; up there with MacKenzie Phillips' story.

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by Anonymousreply 64June 12, 2021 2:45 PM

Shocking excerpt from a 1993 Today Show interview.

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by Anonymousreply 1December 16, 2020 4:39 AM

She was beautiful before all that work. She and Janet need to be banned from the plastic surgeon's office.

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by Anonymousreply 2December 16, 2020 4:47 AM

Discussing her book with Regis & Kathie Lee.

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by Anonymousreply 3December 16, 2020 4:47 AM

She should have stopped after this nose job. She looked gorgeous here.

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by Anonymousreply 4December 16, 2020 4:48 AM

I've owned nearly all of her albums and both of her books. She was clearly a battered woman who was forced against her will by a POS with heavy mob connections into marriage and slandering her family and causing cheap PR stunts for cash. Years after they divorced, he managed Paula Jones (yes, that Paula Jones) and what did she end up doing? Adverts for the Psychic Friends Network like La Toya did and she too claimed abuse from him as well. Even Katherine and Janet correctly guessed at the time that she was being brainwashed by him into acting and speaking that way. Michael forgave her very easily because they were very close before that POS came into her life and he knew that wasn't really his older sister behind all of those stunts and accusations.

by Anonymousreply 5December 16, 2020 4:48 AM

The Jackson Family is the most fucked up family in modern history. Even the normal-seeming ones like Rebbie, Jermaine and Janet are off.

by Anonymousreply 6December 16, 2020 4:49 AM

R2, La Toya's original nose was a little wide and not all that attractive. But she should have stopped with the plastic surgery after the first nose job. It's almost as if Jack Gordon was trying to make her look like her brother.

Here she is after the first nose job in the early 80s. She was STUNNING!

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by Anonymousreply 7December 16, 2020 4:52 AM

R7 I agree. La Toya looked perfect here.

Toni Braxton had a nice nose job too but she kept going back to the surgeon's office to have it chopped again and again.

by Anonymousreply 8December 16, 2020 4:55 AM

La Toya's original face pre-surgery.

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by Anonymousreply 9December 16, 2020 4:57 AM

Prince had a crush on La Toya and they apparently went on a date in the early 80s. La Toya even covered Prince's Private Joy and it's not too bad.

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by Anonymousreply 10December 16, 2020 4:58 AM

Janet threw shade at La Toya and claimed she was lying for attention. But the issue is Janet was the youngest child so what did she know?

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by Anonymousreply 11December 16, 2020 5:05 AM

R10, I've heard about the Prince date & it's another reason I believe some of the sexual abuse allegations. As beautiful as she was, she was extremely shy, still lived at home with her parents and followed her mother around like a puppy dog until she was damn near 30. Prince thought it was weird and never asked for another date. Something's off about that.

by Anonymousreply 12December 16, 2020 5:08 AM

The Jacksons were Jehovah's Witnesses too and very devout. Except when it came to money. Joe had the kids perform at adult clubs and they even recorded Christmas albums.

by Anonymousreply 13December 16, 2020 5:09 AM

in R3's pic, la toya looks like Madonna in Like a Prayer combined with Rhythm Nation era Janet. These Jackson children REALLY hated their noses.

by Anonymousreply 14December 16, 2020 5:11 AM

[quote] The Jackson Family is the most fucked up family in modern history. Even the normal-seeming ones like Rebbie, Jermaine and Janet are off.

Hilariously, the Jackson Family dissaproved of Janet's marriage to the De Barge lead singer becasue they considered the family "too ghetto". But what's worse, being ghetto or being a Jackson?

by Anonymousreply 15December 16, 2020 5:13 AM

Definitely had some ovaries.

by Anonymousreply 16December 16, 2020 5:15 AM

Latoya didn’t show pink in playboy. I think the family tried to steer her into an acting career but she wanted to sing. The first nose job was very good and transformed her from pretty to stunning.

Hasn’t some what she said in those early 90s interviews about Michael turned out to be true. The checks her and Katherine found and connecting them to the families of the boys he was going after and Katherine calling him a faggot?

by Anonymousreply 17December 16, 2020 5:17 AM

R11, it's ironic hearing Janet talk that way about La Toya's lack of success. I remember Janet's first 2 flop albums. If it hadn't have been for Jam & Lewis, she could have ended up just as musically unsuccessful as her sisters!

And then there's this tidbit from La Toya's wiki page:

"In October 1992, while taping an Exotic Club Tour in Minneapolis [La Toya] Jackson approached her sister Janet Jackson, also in town recording her fifth studio album with Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, to ask for help in escaping from [Jack] Gordon. Janet struck La Toya, accusing her elder sister of recording their conversation."

DAMN!

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by Anonymousreply 18December 16, 2020 5:17 AM

Janet seemed the less anti-black of her family. Her music was very R&B with a heavy hip-hop sound too later on and it was less light and colorblind than her brother's. She starred in Poetic Justice playing a hood chick opposite Tupac and was in many Tyler Perry films. She even was with black guys like James DeBarge, Bobby Brown (allegedly) and Jermaine Dupri (yuck!). Maybe because she was the youngest and least brainwashed to self-hate by Joe.

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by Anonymousreply 19December 16, 2020 5:18 AM

[quote] Michael forgave her very easily because they were very close before that POS came into her life and he knew that wasn't really his older sister behind all of those stunts and accusations.

It says something that Michael's kids still like their "auntie" La Toya.

Paris even liked her at the time she was saying she was annoyed by everyone else in the family.

by Anonymousreply 20December 16, 2020 5:18 AM

It's hard for me to not believe La Toya's now-recanted stories because I purchased her 1991 book and she revealed a lot and I don't believe she was lying.

She described a terrifying encounter of going to Phil Spector's house where he terrorized her and she had to escape. I totally believe her given what we know happened with Lana Clarkson.

She also described her mother as a staunch anti-Semite. It just rang too true for me to believe she was lying.

Curiously, though, she didn't say anything negative about Michael in the '91 book. She was very fond of him.

by Anonymousreply 21December 16, 2020 5:23 AM

Some of Janet's early songs like Young Love weren't that bad but they were too dated and innocent for the time period. Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis were sonically innovative and cutting edge which drastically helped her career. Janet was a big fan of Prince apparently and wanted her music to sound more like his. Jam & Lewis also helped New Edition's transition to adulthood after singing that childish schlock that Maurice Starr wrote.

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by Anonymousreply 22December 16, 2020 5:23 AM

Yeah, i listened to Dream Street and then Control, and the difference was astounding. Jam and Lewis took her to the next level. Her first two albums are pleasant but lack personality.

by Anonymousreply 23December 16, 2020 5:26 AM

Jimmy Jam, Terry Lewis, Babyface, LA Reid and Teddy Riley all contributed to the formation of the new genre of music called [bold]New Jack Swing[/bold]. Bobby Brown, Janet Jackson, Pebbles, New Edition, Karyn White, Paula Abdul, Vanessa Williams, New Kids on the Block, Dangerous era Michael Jackson, Johnny Gill, Bell Biv Devoe, Al B. Sure! and Christopher Williams were examples of this genre. New jack swing was popular in Sweden and Swedish producers created an imitation of it for Backstreet Boys, NSYNC and Britney Spears. Now it's enjoying another life in seen in a lot of Kpop groups.

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by Anonymousreply 24December 16, 2020 5:36 AM

R22, I loved 'Young Love' (written & produced by Rene & Angela) and 'Don't Stand Another Chance'. I just think that was a sort of snobby thing for Janet to say about her sister. But I understand that she was upset with her at the time.

by Anonymousreply 25December 16, 2020 5:36 AM

It's ironic that Janet's very first single 'Young Love' is one of the strongest, sassiest vocal performances of her career. I'm sure that Angela Winbush had everything to do with that.

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by Anonymousreply 26December 16, 2020 5:40 AM

I think Janet was just trying to protect the family honor. Even though it was bitchy of her to talk down to La Toya like that who was clearly suffering. Janet knew Joe was a shit father and she later admitted he also abused her too. But at the time of this, she didn't want the drama out in the public because it would potentially harm the family's reputation.

by Anonymousreply 27December 16, 2020 5:40 AM

Janet admitted to sexual abuse from Joe, R27? Or just physical?

by Anonymousreply 28December 16, 2020 5:51 AM

Yes, and as we saw when Janet accompanied her family to the courthouse during Michael's trial, the family sticks together.

by Anonymousreply 29December 16, 2020 5:53 AM

As for Michael Jackson. As much as I am fan of his music. He was a fucked up person and his obsession with hanging out with little white boys was always disturbing to me. I was always under the impression he wanted to be reincarnated as a little white boy and lived vicariously through these kids. He unfortunately grew up not only during the Jim Crow era of racial inequality but also with a psycho abusive father who drilled self-hate into him as well and deprived him of a childhood. But despite his past, his behavior towards this kids was completely inappropriate and it was sign of the time when we still allowed rich celebrities to do whatever they wanted. Which is something we are finally putting an end to. I don't think he violently raped anyone but he was inappropriate with the sleepovers and playing doctor. He exploited these kids who were too young to understand what was happening. He also warped the minds of his adopted kids by telling them they were black when he knows these were little white kids he adopted. Paris Jackson's identity issues are not something to make fun of, her daughter taught her she was black. Culturally she is raised in an African-American family but she is still white and doesn't live the life of a black person.

by Anonymousreply 30December 16, 2020 5:54 AM

"Even before the Jackson Family lost a $40 billion lawsuit against AEG over the death of Michael Jackson, they’ve struggled with debts. Especially when the family’s richest members, Michael and Janet, decided to cut off their seven other siblings and parents out of whim or spite.

A particularly low point came in 2003. No money was coming in, few of them had actual jobs and ­Janet gave but one gift to her siblings: free meal cards to Baja Fresh, a fast-food chain with which she had an endorsement deal.

I visited Rebbie, the oldest of the Jackson kids, in Vegas, to work on a book. It was Baja Fresh for breakfast, lunch and dinner. From there I drove to Hayvenhurst, the family’s estate in Encino, Calif., to meet Katherine, the matriarch, and Jermaine.

And for 2¹/₂ weeks it was . . . Baja Fresh.

Finally, for the sake of my stomach, I offered to take Katherine to Trader Joe’s. She loaded the cart with groceries, and I ended up with the bill — $700.

There was no “thank you.” The money was never repaid. Whatever courtesies are shown to them are met with the air of “You did what you ought to. We are the Jacksons!”

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by Anonymousreply 31December 16, 2020 6:21 AM

Joe was a piece of shit, but Katherine sounds like an absolute cunt.

by Anonymousreply 32December 16, 2020 6:41 AM

They're the black Trumps!

by Anonymousreply 33December 16, 2020 6:41 AM

Those kids wanted to get rid of anything that could remind them of their abusive dad and that included altering their own faces so they wouldn't have to see "his ugly mug" in their own reflections.

by Anonymousreply 34December 16, 2020 6:58 AM

R24 I love that song by Christopher Williams! But damn if that boy doesn't have about as much rhythm as Whitney Houston.

by Anonymousreply 35December 16, 2020 8:43 AM

Latoya with DL fave Andy gibb presenting at the 1984 American music awards. They would’ve made a beautiful couple.

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by Anonymousreply 36December 16, 2020 1:42 PM

Katherine is a cunt because she's an enabler and abusive in a passive aggressive way. She didn't stop Joe from hurting the children. Yes I know she was a black housewife in older time where divorce was taboo and women were expected to be quiet. But even in the changing times, she still stayed with Joe and seemed to not care at all about her kids except for the money they would bring in. She's quiet and soft spoken but seems just as evil as Joe.

by Anonymousreply 37December 16, 2020 1:55 PM

r22, you're right about that sound being dated for that time period. It sounds straight out of the 70s, not the 80s

by Anonymousreply 38December 16, 2020 11:02 PM

She said she was brainwashed and suffered from Stockholm Syndrome

by Anonymousreply 39December 16, 2020 11:06 PM

Lol@R18 Laytoya asks Janet for help in escaping but gets struck. I love that.

by Anonymousreply 40December 16, 2020 11:27 PM

La Toya had lots of good material in the 80s. 'Summertime With You' is one of my favs.

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by Anonymousreply 41December 17, 2020 1:34 AM

Her face is so angular at R3, she could be a Lynn Chadwick sculpture.

by Anonymousreply 42December 17, 2020 1:51 AM

Here's 'Hot Potato', another good single from La Toya's best album IMO, 1984's "Heart Don't Lie". Fun, catchy Pop/R&B. She's not the best vocalist out there, but she could have been a serious contender for some sort of musical success before that Jack Gordon idiot got involved. SMH

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by Anonymousreply 43December 17, 2020 2:37 AM

La Toya's biggest hit on the R&B charts. 1984's 'Bet'cha Gonna Need My Lovin'. A good bop.

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by Anonymousreply 44December 17, 2020 2:44 AM

I like LaToya, but she went back and forth (recanted) her allegations about her family. She's simply not that credible. I doubt her testimony could stand up in court.

I do believe she is a gentle and sweet person, very sensitive. I think her family should have given her a decent allowance (and an apartment) once she turned 18. I think lack of money was the reason for most of her bad decisions.

by Anonymousreply 45December 17, 2020 2:47 AM

She's just as fucking crazy as Michael. So what?

by Anonymousreply 46December 17, 2020 2:51 AM

No one in that family is as crazy as Michael was.

by Anonymousreply 47December 17, 2020 2:52 AM

R45 Or she could turn in some applications. Wtf.

by Anonymousreply 48December 17, 2020 11:56 AM

Original faces.

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by Anonymousreply 49December 17, 2020 12:23 PM

I take the balls in my mouth in 1998. They were very big and hairey.

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by Anonymousreply 50December 17, 2020 5:01 PM

People make fun of the Jacksons' noses before surgery then make fun after surgery. Is it any surprise that people don't know when to stop with surgery? Imagine if, your whole life, you were told that something in the middle of your face was ugly.

by Anonymousreply 51December 17, 2020 5:17 PM

R51, were their noses really made fun of pre plastic surgery? I don't remember what the Jacksons looked like before all that took place.

by Anonymousreply 52December 17, 2020 11:03 PM

What would we say was La Toyas best or most memorable song?

by Anonymousreply 53June 11, 2021 2:37 AM

"You're Gonna Get Rocked" is a bop!

by Anonymousreply 54June 11, 2021 2:45 AM

Thanks r54 She did a very sexy song in 1991 but it wasnt released in the UK

by Anonymousreply 55June 11, 2021 10:41 PM

Way back in the early 1990s, I went to the video store and saw a VHS tape entitled "LaToya Jackson in Concert." I was game, so I rented it. I got about 20 minutes into the program, and switched it off because it was so bad. So bad, in fact, that I returned to the video rental store immediately and requested my money back. True story. That will be all.

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by Anonymousreply 56June 11, 2021 10:52 PM

r56 Did they give you your money back?!

by Anonymousreply 57June 12, 2021 2:21 AM

No, R56, but she did let me exchange. I got a porn vid.

by Anonymousreply 58June 12, 2021 2:42 AM

r58 Hope you enjoyed!

Gosh the days of renting porn from a store!

by Anonymousreply 59June 12, 2021 2:43 AM

How the fuck did La Toya afford all those dancers and a full band???

by Anonymousreply 60June 12, 2021 3:34 AM

Come on baby, ooh ooh pe-do!

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by Anonymousreply 61June 12, 2021 1:27 PM

R31 vadge I know that’s sort of your running joke, the Baja Fresh thing, but I think it’s kind of awesome to have unlimited meal cards there or anywhere, that’s a fantastic gift. Now just because the Jacksons decided to use it everyday has nothing to do with the gift. Are you suggesting that Janet should financially support her 7 grown siblings?

by Anonymousreply 62June 12, 2021 1:49 PM

A little off topic but how is her and Michael's mother Katherine still alive at 91, everyone thought she was at deaths door when she took in Michael's children in 2009?

by Anonymousreply 63June 12, 2021 1:56 PM

Because evil is hard to kill, r63

by Anonymousreply 64June 12, 2021 2:45 PM
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