What Is Deadnaming, and How to Avoid It: Ellen Page Edition

I will not talk to them at all, and that is easier for all of us.

Well! Now I know what to worry about instead of the virus, my family, home, and job. Thanks Elliot Page!

She is not a man and I will never refer to her as such. If she’s a man she must give back all her awards and accolades she won as an ACTRESS. Category fraud.

I don't personally know any trans and don't plan on changing that

Page is not transitioning into anything. She was a woman, she is a woman and she always will be a woman.

I think I'll stop worrying about the gay men being thrown off the tops of buildings in the Middle East, and the millions of girls still undergoing FGM in Africa, and and the women in Iran who aren't allowed to publicly appear unveiled and ride bicycles, and start worrying about what REALLY matters-- the pronouns of wealthy, white Americans!

True r5. Presumably she is reticent to discuss the more obvious signs of her deteriorating mental health.

can't avoid it when you morons keep posting about it

What is she (actress Ellen Page) complaining about now?

Everyone knows that if you wear plaid shirts and ride a bike, you're a boy! It's progressive! #StopTheHate

"all her awards and accolades"

Um, which ones?

It’s especially hard to get my stepchild’s new pronouns right because not only have I known them for 12 years as a girl, I have ADHD and it’s hell. As a result because I don’t want to trigger another self-harming episode I just avoid them.

It’s so pretty.

I imagine that many families have felt about us gays the same way we feel about Elliot, fine, but can you just shut up about it. Get your therapist to validate you and spare us the details, dude.

This is my first contribution to any of the trans threads, it's not a personal to me. It's easy for me to understand FTM because it's easier to be a man. But to go through all the trouble of looking like an ugly woman/transvestite makes no sense to me at all. Stay home and play dress -up but you can't go out looking extreme without expecting push back.

It’s all about strangers, superiors at work, traditional authority figures, medical professionals, “affirming” their gender.

In other words....control.

You see a truck driver in a whore’s dress and you are commanded to call him “ma’am” despite what you own eyes, and reality, are telling you. It’s all about pathetic mentally ill people controlling others. It’s not in good faith. Don’t fall for their manipulation.

I don't get the whole wanting to be identified as trans when you have no plans to physically transition through surgery/hormones. That's what I got from Elliot's annoucement, that they were not planning to. So why make a fuss. They like looking masculine. So? How is this any different than what's been happening with them in recent years.

This thread will end in tears!!

From the article: "Deadnaming is far more than simply calling a person by the wrong name. It can also have a significant impact on a trans individual’s well-being. “We choose names that are correct for us. And often, our legal name, deadname, former name isn’t appropriate for trans people,” Oliver-Ash Kleine, a journalist and founding member of the TJA tells Lifehacker. “It takes away our autonomy. It takes away our right to self-determination, and often undermines our gender, and our identity. It’s really unaffirming, and it can be quite distressing.”

These people are fucking mental cases. How do they get through life being that emotionally weak?

Honestly why should live be so complicated. If they want to do such a cockamamie thing fine. People can be polite to a trans just as much as to any stranger or casual acquaintance. Ellen Page is VERY famous, compared to most people, and thousands upon thousand of people are going to use Ellen Page just by forgetfulness or ignorance: She really can't control this and she should pick her battles. Some of these people want 100% of all their personally set little rules. The public simply doesn't work that way.

R3 Same goes for Bruce Jenner. He needs to give back every Olympic Gold medal and each medal should be awarded to whoever won Silver.

The public barely accepts when an actor tries to SING, or a singer tries to direct. Ask Babs about it.

Did you notice that William Macy didn't get ANY public blame for his daughter's college scam? Why? Because he's Frank Gallagher, what do you expect from a loser like that?

Pick a gender and stick with it. Goddamn it.

[quote] All of this data and expert opinion aside, it also should be unnecessary for us to spell out why you shouldn’t deadname someone. You should use a person’s chosen name because it is the name they have chosen—it the very least you can do to show them respect. If it helps, think of it this way: If a friend gets married and changes their last name, you wouldn’t stubbornly insist on using the one you’re more familiar with.

But right at the beginning of the article, the author says it was transphobic of the media to merely MENTION Page's "deadname" (how can anyone over sixteen say or write that word with a straight face). No one has a nervous breakdown if someone says, "Jenny Blackwell got married last year, she's Jenny Carter now."

Yea, nobody cares. Dead is their career after this.

It's so obvious he's a man, you transphobes. He's put on a baseball cap. End the bigotry.

As a responsible society we should not contribute to the delusions of the mentally ill.

This is all about controlling others and not themselves, otherwise trans people would just be content to live their lives quietly as see themselves and feel.

The name part is a dead giveaway, it’s only different by two letters at the end and this is deemed as critical to their self esteem. It’s a fucking joke and I’m not laughing or playing along.

I’ll always have Tegan and Sara dammit!

I changed my surname when I was eighteen. I couldn't give a fuck if someone mentioned my previous surname.

She will always be Ellen Cunt Page

I have a friend who transitioned and made a minor name adjustment, from Christian to Christina. She gets massively depressed when she receives mail with her deadname, but c'mon. She switched around the final two characters, it is bound to happen.

This bugaboo cult about naming dead people is just as ant-science as ±

I'm not going to bother with this transvestite's behaviour because I just know they'll stop being a transvestite in 3 years time.

I'm sure Ellen will be resurrected in a few years when de-transitioning is the new big thing.

These discretionary transvestites alway change their mind.

It's called Recidivism.