DL Fave Brandon Routh finds new work

A very talented and handsome actor.

He's blandly handsome and I only remember him being in a Superman movie where his reception was lukewarm at best. Glad he's getting work nonetheless.

Brandon Routh says the Superman movie led to phobias, mental health, and pressures working in Hollywood.

I would say the end of my run as Superman, in Superman Returns, that did not pan out the way I thought it was going to," Routh said. "I had to really come to terms with a lot of that."

He added, "I played World of Warcraft endlessly. That was my addiction."

When there was no sequel, when the movie was widely well reviewed — people liked the movie, it made almost $400 million dollars worldwide, but that wasn't enough — it was a very slow fizzle out of the possibility of a sequel over the next two to three years. And I did everything I could do in my world to help make it happen."

The actor didn't reveal what faction (Alliance or Horde) he played, but, that's not the point. The point is that no one, not even Superman, is immune to feeling helpless or vulnerable. "That was where I lost myself," said Routh, reflecting. "It took me a long time to come to terms with that. That was an addiction for me."

The whole hour-long interview is worth listening to fans of DC comics, movies, and TV, as Routh gets raw about Hollywood and likably human. He described playing Superman as "I jumped to the front of the line, and then I wasn't given what I thought I had earned," and revealed Bryan Singer was not so pleasant to work with. "He was not always the kindest person to everyone," he said.

Routh also revealed the "traumatic" experience of leaving Legends of Tomorrow. "I filmed my last episodes in the Arrowverse as Ray Palmer. That was a very traumatic event for me," he says. "It was shocking."

When Rosenbaum asked if they blindsided Routh on his final days, Routh says he knew it was coming months ahead of time but that it was not "well-handled."

"It was before we started production. And it was not well-handled," he said. "That is something I'm, my wife and I, are both still working through. It's been a huge transition time for us the last eight, nine, ten months, going, 'How am I going to find the joy in that knowing this is looming?' But I worked to just be with my crew who've become my family, and my cast ... and just be there in the interactions with the people. How do you do that? You have awareness."

He's very handsome but there's something kind of dorky and corny about his screen presence. That worked for Clark Kent and he was fun playing a similar character on Legends Of Tomorrow, but it hamstrings his potential as a viable male lead.

Guess that Superman show isn't happening. I'm sure he'll get along with Nathan. And his role in Scott Pilgrim was great.

He had a fun guest role in Maria Bamford's Lady Dynamite.

has he ever presented hole?

Aw. No more adorkbable Ray/Nate bromance.

The Superman movie was not good, but he was the least of its problems, and I thought he did a decent job, although might have been a bit too young at the time.

Did he choose to leave Legends or was he let go?

I thought the Superman film he did was good. He is a lot more appealing than Henry.

[Quote] Did he choose to leave Legends or was he let go?

I think he chose to after they let his wife go. He doesn't sound too happy with how it went down. But LOT probably isn't going to last much longer anyway.

Is he gay/bi? He has always pinged for me.

shirtless

The beginning of the Superman movie was epic—-drifting in space, eyes snap open, races to prevent airplane from crashing, lands it in centerfield of a baseball game, comes aboard and sees Lana is one of the passengers. Went downhill after that, was it the script? the casting? I thought he was fine but Kate Bosworth and her story were not compelling.

He was so cute as Superman but his interpretation seemed more like Superboy. Henry Cavill though fits the Superman comic-book look despite being kinda boring as an actor. Bryan Singer cannot direct a coherent picture and seems to make his best movies by mistake. Routh deserved better.

Isn’t this the guy whose bulge had to be digitally reduced?

R7 go away, troll.

^ Lois, not Lana. (It’s been a while since I’ve seen it)

[Quote] I thought he was fine but Kate Bosworth and her story were not compelling.

Worst Lois ever.

[Quote] Henry Cavill though fits the Superman comic-book look despite being kinda boring as an actor. Bryan Singer cannot direct a coherent picture and seems to make his best movies by mistake.

Henry nailed the Superman fans wanted to see in the last 20 minutes of JL. And Bryan being a coke head would explain your issue with his films.

I just find him so physically stunning. The height and those dark eyes and hair and the creamy skin and muscles. He’s like Ben Barnes after super soldier serum.

I love how they did a closeup of his nipple on Chuck

Fuck yes, R20.

[quote] Kate Bosworth and her story were not compelling.

Yes - Bosworth was just wrong for the part, and adding the son was just a mistake. For much of the film, Spacey was not much better. He was good at the end, but he needed to show some of that menace earlier. But that was kind of an overall problem with the whole movie, the middle really could have been tightened up. So many movies would be better if they were under two hours.

Legends used to be a fun show. But last year after they fired Routh and his wife, it became all lesbian tough chick porn all the time, with way too much Gary stupidity thrown in. Great, if that's what you want. Not appealing to me.

Does anyone remember when he was on OLTL and had a meltdown when he was let go?

Yes! And it appears he still melts down every time he gets taken off a show.

did he have a stroke?

He was horrible on OLTL! Miss Sleestack did not like him at tall.

Does he look to any of you as if he has some non-white heritage? If so what do you think that is?

Italianx?

He looks kind of castizo. Mostly European and light-skinned but with some Native American facial features. I always thought he was Latino even when he played Superman and other roles.

Englishx, Scottishx, Germanx, and Dutchx per Wiki.

He claimed to have some Kickapoo Indian in his blood. But there's no way to confirm it unless he pulls up his ancestral records and has family names listed in the Native American rolls. Or if he does a DNA test and posts the results.

[quote] . I always thought he was Latino even when he played Superman and other roles.

Why did you think that?

There are some angles from Superman where he looks so much like Christopher Reeve that it is just plain eerie.

He was a kid when OLTL canned him, but has he melted down over other exits?

he went on a rant online, but he didn't have a publicist to reel him in after he left llanview

Why does he look Asian if you cover one side of his face?

I fell in love with him in "The Nine Lives of Christmas" on Hallmark. Swoonworthy.

[quote] Why does he look Asian if you cover one side of his face?

I think it's because his right is more slanted/longer than the left.

His right eye has definitely gotten wonkier and smaller over the years. It was always a little wonky but it's gotten much worse. You can really see the difference if you look at photos of him from 10+ years ago. Could just be age droopiness, could be bad fillers. This is him in 2006.

His imperfections make him hotter to me honestly

Why does he always have red eyes?

R42 Pot?

Eyes completely red in the 2006 pic. Still red in the 2020 pic. 14 years of pink eye?

He's warming up the heat vision. You thought Sean Penn was hardcore?

He's tall,dorky, sweet,and a very nice man. Totally Hot!!!

Phillywhore needs to service Brandon(he needs to feed me his babies)

R46 = Princess Vitarah is that you?

[Quote] it became all lesbian tough chick porn all the time

Heaven forbid

Routh’s biggest problem as an actor is that he comes across as oddly passive. The onsetting grey hair and sharper facial lines of his 40s actually helped a lot with this, as did his larger-than-usual muscles when he reprised Superman. He was phenomenally sexy.

Routh should be playing Superman in a CW series.

At least we got him in CRISIS.

I loved him on Partners where he played the gay nurse; he was the best part of that show.

Neighborhood of the dick size?

R51

You're supposed to ask for "Sizemeat verificatia?"

Get it right, you fat whore, before I kick you in the cunt bone.

From Superman to “recurring” in The Rookie, damn. Well work is work.

R50 that ship has sailed.

Tom Welling did recurring in Lucifer also as a policeman.

Routh being a passive actor isn't a weakness. It works when the hero is meant to a surrogate for the audience. Keanu Reeves and Josh Hartnett are passive too but for their roles in action and horror films it works.

Maybe passive isn't the right word. There's a sort of lightness to Routh. A buoyancy that is charming but lacks depth. Some actors are compelling just silently brooding, but that ain't Brandon.

From what I've seen he's better at comedy than drama, but his good looks are no asset there. Except in romcoms but he seems to avoid those.

I wonder if his Dylan Dog movie was any good. Seems like odd casting.

Keanu Reeves and Josh Hartnett are stoic, Routh is passive. There’s a difference. And Keanu is a star. Hartnett tried to be a star but wasn’t able to. You need to be a star to pull of stoic, Henry Cavill does it, which is why Witcher is a hit. Hartnett meanwhile has faded again since his “comeback” role in Penny Dreadful. However age and good physical shape have given Hartnett, like Routh, an authority to his presence which he lacked before.

I like Brandon and I think he was blamed for the failure for the Superman movie and it was not even close to his fault.

[quote] I think he was blamed for the failure for the Superman movie

Rightly so. Too old.

I will be honest. He wasn’t good casting for Superman. It should have been Matt Bomer.

I don't agree. Bomer would have been wrong for that part. Brandon was perfect for what they were trying to go for. It wasn't his fault the Singer fucked it all up.

Routh’s Superman was encumbered by insufficient muscle mass (essential a swimmer’s body) and a poorly designed costume which made him look oddly boyish. The Legends arc showed Routh could embody the character correctly with better costuming and styling.

He eats pussy. Ewwwwww!

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Matt Bomer was a fan favorite choice for years and years.

Allegedly Brandon got the role because of the “casting couch”. He was Singer’s favorite fuck toy.

And then they passed Bomer up again because he’s openly gay.

LOL how out of the loop are you if now in 2020 you think that Bryan Singer likes to have sex with adult men?

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That is the rumor that has circulated for years even before the big expose (and those rumors were going around as well). If you think Brandon got the role without having to give his body up to that predator, you’re delusional.

You’re delusional. There was only one person Bryan Singer would have had any interest in on that set.

He isn't nearly as muscular as Nathan Fillion. NF has huge muscles and is trim and fit.

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You’re dumb. Just because he has raped minors doesn’t mean he hasn’t had sex with adult men.

For a big role like Superman, with Bryan Singer at the helm, and also Kevin Spacey was involved, do you honestly think Brandon wasn’t taken advantage of? He was 26-27 at the time. You really don’t see the red flags?

Spacey has been repeatedly accused of harassing adult, well-developed men so he most likely copped a few feels of Brandon, but Singer is exclusively into teenage boys. You must be the only one who doesn’t know this.

Fillion has the wonky eyes. Routh was a much better choice. Fillion’s a gay though.

Stephan Bender now raises horses and is a dead ringer for Billy Crudup.

[quote] I think he chose to after they let his wife go. He doesn't sound too happy with how it went down.

This is the first I’ve heard about it being his choice. If so it was an idiotic move. I really think the writers just didn’t have anything more to write for Ray and Nora. But yeah he does seem bitter about it.

[quote] Legends used to be a fun show. But last year after they fired Routh and his wife, it became all lesbian tough chick porn all the time, with way too much Gary stupidity thrown in.

Agreed. The only good storyline this past season involved Zari and Behrad. Tala Ashe has been the MVP since she joined the cast a few years ago.

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“but Singer is exclusively into teenage boys”

No, he isn’t. Just because that’s all you’ve heard doesn’t mean it’s true. It’s also pretty much an open secret that some, if not all, of the X-Men MEN had to have sex with him.

You’re so desperate to redeem Bryan Singer from career pedophile status, aren’t you?

R73 Stephen Bender is a hottie. I loved him and pretty boy Max Reog in the film [italic] Dream Boy [/italic]. It's based on the excellent book of the same name by gay Southern author Jim Grimsley. DL fav Randy Wayne was also in it.

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Not at all. He is a pedophile. But I have enough sense to know he has also used adult men as well. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.

The X-Men young men attended some of his parties and have gotten very close to him. We have the evidence.

Pedophiles are predators. Predators are opportunistic. Yes they have preferences but many aren't exclusive. There are pedos who have S/Os and married with children. They also will go after anyone they have a position of power over.

Josh Hartnett isn't really stoic to me. More just wooden and struggles to emote. Keanu is wooden but has great screen presence. I think what helped both was not only their good looks but having acting experience since their teen years and figuring out what worked best for them early on. Both were big teen idols who turned to adult roles, so the public was already used to them and developed a soft spot for them.

Routh came into the acting game in his 20s and Superman Returns was his first film role which was a lot of pressure to live up to.

[quote] It’s also pretty much an open secret that some, if not all, of the X-Men MEN had to have sex with him.

Patrick Stewart, James Marsden, Alan Cumming? Doubtful.

Hugh Jackman? That was because of Russell Crowe. He recommended him after he passed on it and Doug Ray Scott had scheduling difficulties. He was a last minute replacement.

Aaron Stanford was a replacement for actor Alex Burton who sued Singer's associates for drugging and sexually assaulting him. I doubt the studio would have let someone else that was Singer's choice near that role after that. He didn't name Singer in his lawsuit.

The cast of First Class and on after that were all pretty established. Caleb Landry was on Friday Night Lights for years. Ben Hardy was on East Enders for years. Lucas Till started in First Class and the first and the last weren't cast when Singer was directing. Vaughn did that and they carried over.

As for Shawn Ashmore, the rumor was that his brother Aaron wrote a blog post implying that he lived with Bryan Singer. People here have repeated that. However, that rumor came from Defamer who copied it from an anonymous post on the IMDB long gone boards. Shawn was asked about it and he denied it was ever the case.

But there were rumors about other minor actors that popped up in the films.

I don't think Routh slept for the Superman role. He was tall, dark and handsome and a new name. So the studio took a gamble on casting him. It's possible they wanted to appeal to a wider demographic than just comic fans, so they choose Routh who was pretty and slender looking to attract a female audience.

I have no mean things to say about Routh. He seems like a sweet and pleasant person who chooses his words very carefully.

They went with Brandon because Superman Returns was supposed to be a continuation of the Christopher Reeve films. Brandon looked like Christopher, in fact he and Chris' son (the one who is on ABC news) look like brothers.

Singer, who since noted Routh as being the embodiment of "our collective memory of Superman,"[9] was impressed by his resemblance to the comic book icon and found the actor's humble Mid-western roots perfect for the role, as well as his "combination of vulnerability and confidence" Singer said reminded him of Christopher Reeve.[5] Singer decided to cast Routh after the two met on August 13, 2004, but did not tell Routh until two months later, when Routh's casting was announced in October 2004,[8] making him an "instant celebrity".

They don’t cast a “nobody” without something in return (sexual favors). What happened in August 2004? Bryan Singer raped Brandon.

Actually a lot of unknown actors have gotten into Hollywood roles and scouting talent off the streets is not that uncommon. If the director likes you and the studio approves then there isn't anything stopping that. Jennifer Lopez wasn't known when she was cast in both Anaconda and Selena, Daisy Ridley wasn't known when cast in Star Wars and the Harry Potter kids weren't known either.

Routh was 25 years old when cast as Clark/Superman and he was physically well-built and tall, I don't know how Singer could have overpowered and raped him.

Routh is taller and physically stronger than Singer. He was a grown ass man. He was good-looking, had the look for Superman and he was marketable. Singer is a pervert but he likely chose his victims carefully. A naive young teenage boy is lot more easier to manipulate and abuse than a grown ass man with acting experience.

Um we’ve already been told how it goes down. How many people have to come forward? He was either drugged or told he had to have sex with him to get the role.

And Brandon probably WAS very naive. A nobody having never been in a big film being given the opportunity of the lifetime to play a major character in a blockbuster.

I literally solved this case for you guys and you don’t want to believe it, even with everything we’ve already learned about Hollywood.

He'll probably get a surge in roles in coming years as the slightly dorky, yet hunky dad on some TV Show or TV/streaming movies and yeah, he's the perfect type to keep working in Hallmark movies. Total crap work, but pays the bills.

He checks a lot of boxes for that type of work, just enough 'name' value, good looking, but not too good looking, non-threatening, not a great actor, but good enough.

Imagine if Hartnett accepted the lead role in Superman Returns. He's a sweet and innocent Midwestern boy just like Brandon Routh.

WB offered him $20 million for the role and he turned it down.

Actually that was Superman Flyby, not Superman Returns.

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Singer’s face in that pic literally screams “yeah, I’ve had this bitches”.

And your logic is completely flawed. “Tall”, “physically strong” men are taken advantage of all the time in Hollywood, the fashion (modeling) industry, sports, etc. “Tall”, “physically strong” men are sexually abused as well. Your fucked up logic is part of the problem.

Miss Victoria Sleestack would never have allowed Routh to present hole for a role. Not at tall.

R93 Until Routh confesses that Singer abused him or people on the set of Superman Returns speaks up. It's just rumors. Also physically difference and maturity of age does play a big role. Adult men choosing to have sex with other men to further their film or modeling careers is not rape because they are consenting to doing it. That is called doing sexual favors for advancement. Male actors and models are actually contributing to the problem by not calling out these perverts in power and publicly shaming them for propositioning them. If they were drugged, physically forced or threatened/blackmailed then that is rape. But if a director or producer said to this male actor "suck my dick for this role" and the actor says yes. That isn't rape.

The cast of Apt Pupil have spoken up though and maybe Brad Renfro would have too if he had survived. These were young teenage boys who were molested and threatened by Singer. Singer drugged them, raped them and told them that no one would believe them. These were kids who were physically and emotionally immature to fight back or understand what was happening. As in easy victims to overpower and manipulate.

So if things went south with a Brandon / Singer encounter and Brandon went apeshit and beat the crap out of Singer, how would he have explained that to the studio?

Have met Brandon a few times. He's a sweetheart.

Singer wouldn't proposition anyone until they were far along enough in the process.

He couldn't risk it going south.

Doing the casting couch with hunks in X-Men movies who had 5 lines or less is a different story.

I wish someone beat the crap out of Singer.

This is my point. Singer preys on teenage boys or the barely legal emaciated twink types because they are physically weaker and emotionally immature enough to groom and exploit. Most of his victims were unknown young actors too.

Routh is a big tall guy and had acting experience. Even if he didn't get Superman, he had other options too with his looks and appeal. Singer isn't crazy enough to risk it on an adult male who is physically stronger than him and could beat his ass. Predators prey on people they perceive as weak and defenseless. That's a big reason why women and children are the biggest targets of sexual abuse. Adult men have physical strength and also have testosterone, so they are less likely targets.

What part of, "You don't get the job unless I can fuck you." do you not understand, r97?

r98...excuse me.

No one is going to argue that Bryan Singer likes guys who look young. But it has never been proven by any valid, reliable sources that Bryan Singer is into children.

Christopher Reeve is the definitive Superman for me, and while Routh really did embody the goodness of Reeve's Superman, I hated "Superman Returns". Then I saw "Man of Steel" and I took back every bad word I ever said about "Superman Returns'.

[quote] have no mean things to say about Routh. He seems like a sweet and pleasant person who chooses his words very carefully.

And he's game. He was so into the "Scott Pilgrim v. the World" reunion - going all in for his relatively small role. I'm glad that playing Superman in the Crisis crossover game him some closure.

R99 If you proposition the actor for the lead role in the film and the actor makes it big. It could backfire on you if the actor exposes your sex crimes. Going after small actors who are extras or supporting roles who you could say "sleep with me and I'll get you a lead role next time" and then not call them back is much easier.

ok...dumbass...

Offering someone an iconic role in a blockbuster film in exchange for sex is exploitative but it's not rape. That's more akin to prostitution because you are choosing to have sex in exchange for a reward. No one is forcing you to sleep to get a role in a film. Being an actor is not a necessity.

If someone offered you a million dollars to sleep with them. You could turn that down but very few would do so. But if you choose to do so then it's also not being raped.

R104 Why are you so obsessed with the idea of Routh being raped?

Why do think Singer would be stupid enough to risk his career on anyone especially on an older, straight and relatively intelligent white guy in his mid-20s from an middle-class background like Routh?

Why would Singer not instead focus on isolating and then grooming younger individuals with a background of dysfunction or poverty (like Brad Renfro or Eddie Furlong) like you know every other predator does?

Why do you consider adult men who consent to having sex for commercial/material gain to be rape? Because if Routh slept with Singer for the role then that is also reflective on Routh's character too.

I have no idea who this is, but I wouldn't mind seeing him spitroasted.

Stephen Bender's talent agent was partners with pedophile Bob Villard when Bender was cast in the Superman movie. If Bender survived without getting molested he was lucky.

R108 It would explain Stephen's early retirement but he looks genuinely very happy as a cowboy. The other lead actor in [italic] Dream Boy [/italic], Max Roeg is the son of a director Nicholas Roeg so he had nepotism on his side though his career never really took off.

Predators like Singer and Spacey love violating and corrupting men like Brandon Routh. I have a strong feeling both raped or had sex with him. This is just how it is in Hollywood; and there are tons of men just like them there.

If Routh was raped. It didn't really "corrupt" him. He still seems sweet, innocent and wholesome like a Midwestern church boy. He doesn't seem traumatized, doesn't seem to have any drug or alcohol problems or run-ins with the law.

[Quote] He isn't nearly as muscular as Nathan Fillion. NF has huge muscles and is trim and fit.

That wasn't always the case. He blew up on Castle.

[Quote] And your logic is completely flawed. “Tall”, “physically strong” men are taken advantage of all the time in Hollywood, the fashion (modeling) industry, sports, etc. “Tall”, “physically strong” men are sexually abused as well. Your fucked up logic is part of the problem.

E.g Terry Crews and Marky Mark.

Routh doesn’t look like Superman. He looks too Latino. The blue contacts they gave him made him look freaky and unnatural and had an uncanny valley effect.

R113 Latino??? 🤨

Sorry, Latinx.

R105

But we already know men and women, and minors, are being drugged and raped in these industries.

Obviously we don’t know what the exact scenario is, but industry heavyweights HAVE drugged and raped men like Brandon Routh. He might have been made to have sex with him for the role, but at the same time that exact setting, Singer meeting up with Routh, is the same we’ve heard/seen from many other stories in these industries. And Singer is already a known sexual predator. You really think he could keep to himself meeting alone with a young man like Brandon Routh?

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You don’t know him. You have no idea what he’s really like behind closed doors. What celebrities present to the public is largely fake and PR. He no doubt has many skeletons hiding in his closet.

It’s interesting that you mention church boys because you know what happens to many of them. When they get alone time with a pastor/priest many are sexually abused. And the same is true in many other industries.

Guess who has spent a lot of alone time with powerful Hollywood men? Brandon Routh.

But Brandon is straight. Why would he have sex with men? Are you saying Brandon is bi?

[quote]I thought the Superman film he did was good. He is a lot more appealing than Henry.

Absolutely. He brought a lot of tenderness and charm to the role. The main problem was the script, which was frightful. However Brodsworth was dead air and charmless; Parker Posey a black hole of nothingness; Spacey was laboured; and Singer's direction banal. But then, if you watched his behaviour in the "Making Of" videos that he uploaded, even on those you soon understood what was going on.

Bosworth. She got terrible reviews for it as I recall. David Edelstein wrote: "she’s motorless, with guileless little eyes". Ouch.

"[Singer's] his movie has no warmth, and Bosworth is a big part of the problem. It's a heck of a thing to say that the intricacies of playing Lois Lane are outside an actress' sphere, but whatever those intricacies are, they elude Bosworth." Double ouch.

[quote]If someone offered you a million dollars to sleep with them. You could turn that down but very few would do so. But if you choose to do so then it's also not being raped.

But it is sexual harassment.

So Robert Redford sexually harassed Demi Moore?

[quote]But it is sexual harassment.

Give me a million bucks, and I don't care how raddled the cock is and how hard they hammer it: I'll tell the media it was soul deep love.

You type like a Republican r123.

Shit: as a Christmas special, I'll do it for half a million.

You type like a Libertarian r125.

R122 i was waiting for that 😆

There is still no evidence of Routh being raped. You all act like predators go after everyone they can and are not selective with their victims. Singer has a job and knows what he is doing when it comes to it. It's established Routh is not Singer's type to molest. It does not mean Singer isn't aware that Routh was good-looking and fit the visual for Superman just like with Hugh Jackman for Wolverine. Singer is gay but he knew Halle Berry, Famke Jannson, Rebecca Romijn and Jennifer Lawrence were all attractive women and he envisioned them as the X-Men heroines.

R121 If you choose to sleep with someone for the material gain. That reflects the person who is willing to do it more than the person offering the money. Neither side is an aggressor or a victim because it's consensual. In fact, for most of history that is what marriage has been, an economic arrangement.

I bet if Routh was ugly and/or actually seemed fucked up like say Russell Crowe, Ben Affleck, Colin Farrell, Chris Brown, Justin Bieber, etc. Or fucked up and dead like Chris Farley, River Phoenix, Brad Renfro, Jonathan Brandis, George Michael, Kurt Cobain, etc. There would be less people here making accusations that Routh was raped because they would not care as much about him. But because Routh is good-looking, seems happy, healthy and well-adjusted that is why the cynical people here are speculating because they want to make this boring nice guy seem tragic and fucked up. Predators choose people from dysfunctional and poor backgrounds, they chose people who are also on the LGBT community and chose people from ethnic minority groups because they know people do not give a shit about them as much as people who look like Brandon Routh.

Just put the “Brandon was raped” troll on ignore.

[quote] Routh doesn’t look like Superman. He looks too Latino. The blue contacts they gave him made him look freaky and unnatural and had an uncanny valley effect.

Superman is actually coded as Jewish. The creators were Ashkenazi Jews, his name is Kal-El (which means God of Light in Hebrew) and Superman himself is a Messiah-type figure, both a physically strong warrior and an educated intellectual. So if they wanted to make a Superman film most closely to the creator's intention, Superman would look Mediterranean.

Brandon Routh looks Native American as does Tyler Hoechlin. Dean Cain is half-Asian and looks it too. But all of them got the look down.

Kal-El is Hebrew? I thought it was Kryptonian. What does Kara-El and Zor-El mean?

"El" means God in Hebrew. It's a common suffix and prefix. Hence traditionally Jewish and later Western names like Michael, Rachel, Gabriel, Elijah, Immanuel etc.

I don't think Zor-El and Kara-El have meanings, the creators just wanted to keep the naming scheme which paid tribute to their Jewish ancestry.

The story of Superman is very similar to the story of Moses in Exodus.

[quote] The story of Superman is very similar to the story of Moses in Exodus.

It's really not.

And since the New Testament was influenced by the Old Testament. The story of Jesus recalls elements of the story of Moses. Sent away from their homes to be raised by different parents, had humble and meek dispositions, found out their heritage later on, decided to use their power for the good of humanity and were persecuted by the authorities.

You could also compare Superman to the experience of immigrants who while assimilated to the mainstream culture. Still struggled to be accepted because they were still of a different ancestry.

Those are really broad and vague. Moses saves his people from bondage; Superman's people are dead. Moses is raised by a Pharaoh; Superman is raised by farmers. Moses performs miracles by the power of God; Superman performs super-deeds on his own power. Moses brings his people to a new land; Superman beats up shysters and grifters.

Compare Moses' story to other stories of infants set adrift who turn out to be remarkable people, like Sargon or Romulus and Remus, and you'll see that Superman really doesn't have all that much specifically in common with Moses.

Yes, the story of Jesus, especially in the Gospel of Matthew, echoes Moses' life...intentionally. With Superman, someone is just reaching.

[quote] Routh doesn’t look like Superman. He looks too Latino.

Latino in what ways?

Leave it to DL to derail a Brandon Routh thread with Hebrew theology. I just want to see him in those flimsy polos where you can see his nipples.

Brandon Routh is STRAIGHT and has never done anything sexually otherwise. Geez.

Brandon struggles with, as Liza would say, ISHHUES.

He recommends therapy for everyone.

Thanks darl. But we're not all exhausting "I don't know myself!" luvvies. But God luck with the roles.

No R141

Lizha would say "ISSHOOSH."

Brandon isn't gay. But he's a gay ally and had no problem playing gay in the past. He and Chris Evans are among the more vocal of the superhero actors when it comes to left-wing politics. While some like Robert Downey Jr are conservative.

He is a hot guy and seems like a decent human being. I’ve always rooted for him, but couldn’t tell you why. I didn’t mind him as Superman. It’s a tough role, but he was good.

He's wholesome but also a bleeding heart liberal. I wouldn't mind seeing him in more films. He should do more comedy and action/thriller films. His dark hair and dark eyes work well in expressiveness.

too angelic for gravitas.

In what ways does he look Latino? I don't see it.

R147 He doesn't to me either. But he looks like a White American with Plains Indian mixture which tend to be lighter-skinned and taller than Central American mestizos.

Brandon has never been gay. Ever.

R149

Do you spy on him 24/7? If not you don’t know his real sexuality or if he has had sex with men (he’s in Hollywood, he probably has).

R112 - pretty sure that compliment to Nathan Fillion was pure sarcasm

Not really a fair comparison because the latter is considered a particularly talented actor, but Brandon has the same problem as James Wolk - just sort of this odd contrast between the genial, wholesome Boy Scout face and the smoking hot bod. Which to some makes them more exciting, but Hollywood doesn’t seem to know what to do with actors like this.

R151 i hope so 😄

Doesn't the studio have to sign off on Routh in a case of him playing Superman?

So the studio signs off on him; Singer propositions him and says you want this role, you have to sleep with me.

Routh does and then he gets the role...but what if he didn't and told Singer to fuck off...then, Singer has to go back to the studio and say, 'Nah; we need to find another one...'

Again, you do it with bit mutants who get zapped in the first ten minutes of Days of Future Past, but not with Kal-El.

Singer had Brandon and Henry. Henry was so pissed after giving ass and a blow job that he can't even say the man's name. There was an interview in which the reporter stated that Henry was supposed to play Supes before MOS.

Henry confirmed that, and he paused when it came down to saying Singer's name. After he paused he just said "director", he couldn't even utter his name.

Now, whatever Singer did to Henry was fucked up.

Didn't Singer say he was friends with Henry??

So Bryan also likes grown adult men with body hair, Adam's apples and muscles? Who'd a think?

Thanks alot DATALOUNGE...Now I wanna RAPE Brandon Routh real bad...Seriously, I need to hear him MOAN right before he NUTTS!!

Ohhh...a gag maybe would be nice too.

To (R159)...YES, a gag would be real Good! Lots of moaning...Phillywhore needs that(I always liked Routh and Wolk)

Routh is not gay. Get over it.

[quote]Didn't Singer say he was friends with Henry??

Yes, he made sure to say that they "WERE" friends -- not that they ARE friends. You would think that's odd to say, since, in Hollywood, everyone is a friend, no matter how shallow the relationship is.

Henry around the time he was hanging out with Singer.

Henry was so close. He even did the screen shots.

Aging sucks.

Has Viki Sleestack commented yet?

He starts on the show tonight and looks good in his uniform!

How's the wonky eye doing?