It doesn’t matter how much you spend on olive oil, Italian food will always be rustic food. This is probably why it caught on so well in America, where millions with unsophisticated palates enjoy it.
Nobody claimed it was haute cuisine.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | November 28, 2020 6:01 PM |
VAFFANCULO!!!!!!!
by Anonymous | reply 2 | November 28, 2020 6:04 PM |
Thanks God for that, not everything needs to be haute cuisine, even the french don't eat haute cuisine!
by Anonymous | reply 3 | November 28, 2020 6:09 PM |
The Italians taught the French to cook, according to many histories of cuisine, you imbecile. Catherine de Medici brought Italian cooks to the court of France when she married Henry II, and he fell in love with their style of cooking and their cooking techniques, which was then taught to French cooks. Of course the French chefs changed and refined what they learned over time, but the essentials were Italian. Then, as now, there is a difference between Italian peasant food and Italian fine food, but the same can be said for French peasant food and French fine food, partly to do with the quality of the ingredients and spices available to the wealthy. American Italian food, which is primarily the food of peasants of Naples and Sicily, bears no resemblance to the elegant Italian cooking which the wealthy of Italy enjoy, but it's tasty nonetheless and a massive improvement over the peasant food of Germans, Slavs, the British and the Irish.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | November 28, 2020 6:11 PM |
fuck right off!
by Anonymous | reply 5 | November 28, 2020 6:21 PM |
[quote]Then, as now, there is a difference between Italian peasant food and Italian fine food...
[quote] American Italian food, which is primarily the food of peasants of Naples and Sicily, bears no resemblance to the elegant Italian cooking which the wealthy of Italy enjoy,
Not true.
The OP is correct. There is no Haute Italian Cuisine.
A luxury restaurant in Italy is not seen as "better" than a humble trattoria.
The repertoire of Italian dishes originate from the home...not from chefs.
There was never an Italian Escoffier.
This is the strength of Italian cooking. It is about the quality of ingredients, quality ingredients simply prepared. There are few "techniques" in Italian cooking.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | November 28, 2020 6:23 PM |
Try dirt.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | November 28, 2020 6:28 PM |
What exactly is the Italian cooking that the wealthy of italy enjoy? Name some dishea
by Anonymous | reply 8 | November 28, 2020 6:31 PM |
Those French despise Italians and their cooking.
Except for the 371 Restaurants included in the Michelin guides, second only to France in the number of included restaurants
by Anonymous | reply 9 | November 28, 2020 6:34 PM |
It is not. Not that you could appreciate French cooking with all the dirty ass you've eaten, OP, you pickled old degenerate.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | November 28, 2020 6:36 PM |
italians dont eat frog legs or snails like french people, so disgusting.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | November 28, 2020 6:48 PM |
r11 At least those things are dead when you eat them. Squirting razor clams with lemon juice and watching them wriggle about before you eat them, or that lovely casu marzu topped with a heapin' helpin' of squirming maggots is hardly to be trumpeted.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | November 28, 2020 8:38 PM |
R6 is absolutely correct. Fine Italian food is all about high quality ingredients, simply prepared.
Some cuisine rely on fatty sauces, heavy spices, melted cheese, etc. to lift up otherwise mediocre meats.
Nearly all cultures have traditional dishes or delicacies that involve live animals.
Casu Marzu is disgusting (to me), but the French have mimolette, served with live cheese mites.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | November 28, 2020 8:57 PM |
Years of living in Italy and I've never seen Casu Marzu. It is specific to Sardinia and I would say that 99.9% of Italians have never seen it either, let alone eaten it.
However Italians do eat tripe and in Tuscany "lampredotto " which is the stomach of the cow. I love sandwiches made with it.
And raw pork. Yep, raw pork. Smeared on grilled polenta or toasted bread.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | November 28, 2020 9:47 PM |
Oh and I forgot "migliacci di sangue": crepes made with pigs blood and flour. Sprinkled with sugar.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | November 28, 2020 9:51 PM |
Hey everybody, I’m gonna insult TWO countries in one post!
Sadly, not a Datalounge record.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | November 28, 2020 9:52 PM |
American culture is working class culture. No haute cuisine catches on here.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | November 28, 2020 9:53 PM |
food in Italy changes quite a lot by the region. One of the best meals I've ever had was in Noto in Sicily. It was shrimp in a pistachio sauce and it was unreal. But nothing is more delicious than some hot Italian cock in your mouth.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | November 28, 2020 9:53 PM |
[quote]Italian Food Is Not Haute Cuisine
Nor is it supposed to be.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | November 28, 2020 9:55 PM |
Neither is a croissant, OP. But when executed correctly, it’s divine. I’d take something simple that’s prepared perfectly over any haute cuisine dish any day.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | November 28, 2020 11:17 PM |
Italian food is very simple, but at the same time very ingenious. They can prepare the most fresh and tasty pasta meal in 15 minutes, just by using 5 simple and cheap ingredients. The genius part is combining flavors that nobody thought would work together.
The best pizza just uses flour, water, tomatos, basil, cheese, olive oil, done right it's an absolute delicacy.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | November 28, 2020 11:47 PM |
Wayne and me like the Olive Garden
by Anonymous | reply 22 | November 28, 2020 11:48 PM |
Pizza is the ultimate white trash food, not invented in Italy, despite what people think. It’s best served with ranch dressing, they come together because it was meant to be.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | November 29, 2020 12:35 AM |
OP is constantly scolding the other denizens of Joplin, Missouri's "A Gay" set for this, as they insist on driving to Springfield to eat at the Olive Garden there.
His pleas to drive to Bentonville to dine at Le Petit Bistro go unheeded.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | November 29, 2020 12:41 AM |
R23 is describing his Thanksgiving dinner.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | November 29, 2020 12:42 AM |
For every pizza there is a Nutella and banana crepe
by Anonymous | reply 26 | November 29, 2020 12:43 AM |
You're so elite and sophisticated OP.
It may not be Haute Cuisine, but I'm still going to eat it.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | November 29, 2020 12:44 AM |
My rule, if it’s frequently eaten from a can, I don’t eat it. Trash!
by Anonymous | reply 28 | November 29, 2020 12:46 AM |
[quote] Darlene Bucket
Is that pronounced “bouquet”?
by Anonymous | reply 29 | November 29, 2020 3:41 AM |
Italian cuisine is haute adjacent.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | November 29, 2020 3:51 AM |