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Italian Food Is Not Haute Cuisine

It doesn’t matter how much you spend on olive oil, Italian food will always be rustic food. This is probably why it caught on so well in America, where millions with unsophisticated palates enjoy it.

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by Anonymousreply 30November 29, 2020 3:51 AM

Nobody claimed it was haute cuisine.

by Anonymousreply 1November 28, 2020 6:01 PM

VAFFANCULO!!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 2November 28, 2020 6:04 PM

Thanks God for that, not everything needs to be haute cuisine, even the french don't eat haute cuisine!

by Anonymousreply 3November 28, 2020 6:09 PM

The Italians taught the French to cook, according to many histories of cuisine, you imbecile. Catherine de Medici brought Italian cooks to the court of France when she married Henry II, and he fell in love with their style of cooking and their cooking techniques, which was then taught to French cooks. Of course the French chefs changed and refined what they learned over time, but the essentials were Italian. Then, as now, there is a difference between Italian peasant food and Italian fine food, but the same can be said for French peasant food and French fine food, partly to do with the quality of the ingredients and spices available to the wealthy. American Italian food, which is primarily the food of peasants of Naples and Sicily, bears no resemblance to the elegant Italian cooking which the wealthy of Italy enjoy, but it's tasty nonetheless and a massive improvement over the peasant food of Germans, Slavs, the British and the Irish.

by Anonymousreply 4November 28, 2020 6:11 PM

fuck right off!

by Anonymousreply 5November 28, 2020 6:21 PM

[quote]Then, as now, there is a difference between Italian peasant food and Italian fine food...

[quote] American Italian food, which is primarily the food of peasants of Naples and Sicily, bears no resemblance to the elegant Italian cooking which the wealthy of Italy enjoy,

Not true.

The OP is correct. There is no Haute Italian Cuisine.

A luxury restaurant in Italy is not seen as "better" than a humble trattoria.

The repertoire of Italian dishes originate from the home...not from chefs.

There was never an Italian Escoffier.

This is the strength of Italian cooking. It is about the quality of ingredients, quality ingredients simply prepared. There are few "techniques" in Italian cooking.

by Anonymousreply 6November 28, 2020 6:23 PM

Try dirt.

by Anonymousreply 7November 28, 2020 6:28 PM

What exactly is the Italian cooking that the wealthy of italy enjoy? Name some dishea

by Anonymousreply 8November 28, 2020 6:31 PM

Those French despise Italians and their cooking.

Except for the 371 Restaurants included in the Michelin guides, second only to France in the number of included restaurants

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by Anonymousreply 9November 28, 2020 6:34 PM

It is not. Not that you could appreciate French cooking with all the dirty ass you've eaten, OP, you pickled old degenerate.

by Anonymousreply 10November 28, 2020 6:36 PM

italians dont eat frog legs or snails like french people, so disgusting.

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by Anonymousreply 11November 28, 2020 6:48 PM

r11 At least those things are dead when you eat them. Squirting razor clams with lemon juice and watching them wriggle about before you eat them, or that lovely casu marzu topped with a heapin' helpin' of squirming maggots is hardly to be trumpeted.

by Anonymousreply 12November 28, 2020 8:38 PM

R6 is absolutely correct. Fine Italian food is all about high quality ingredients, simply prepared.

Some cuisine rely on fatty sauces, heavy spices, melted cheese, etc. to lift up otherwise mediocre meats.

Nearly all cultures have traditional dishes or delicacies that involve live animals.

Casu Marzu is disgusting (to me), but the French have mimolette, served with live cheese mites.

by Anonymousreply 13November 28, 2020 8:57 PM

Years of living in Italy and I've never seen Casu Marzu. It is specific to Sardinia and I would say that 99.9% of Italians have never seen it either, let alone eaten it.

However Italians do eat tripe and in Tuscany "lampredotto " which is the stomach of the cow. I love sandwiches made with it.

And raw pork. Yep, raw pork. Smeared on grilled polenta or toasted bread.

by Anonymousreply 14November 28, 2020 9:47 PM

Oh and I forgot "migliacci di sangue": crepes made with pigs blood and flour. Sprinkled with sugar.

by Anonymousreply 15November 28, 2020 9:51 PM

Hey everybody, I’m gonna insult TWO countries in one post!

Sadly, not a Datalounge record.

by Anonymousreply 16November 28, 2020 9:52 PM

American culture is working class culture. No haute cuisine catches on here.

by Anonymousreply 17November 28, 2020 9:53 PM

food in Italy changes quite a lot by the region. One of the best meals I've ever had was in Noto in Sicily. It was shrimp in a pistachio sauce and it was unreal. But nothing is more delicious than some hot Italian cock in your mouth.

by Anonymousreply 18November 28, 2020 9:53 PM

[quote]Italian Food Is Not Haute Cuisine

Nor is it supposed to be.

by Anonymousreply 19November 28, 2020 9:55 PM

Neither is a croissant, OP. But when executed correctly, it’s divine. I’d take something simple that’s prepared perfectly over any haute cuisine dish any day.

by Anonymousreply 20November 28, 2020 11:17 PM

Italian food is very simple, but at the same time very ingenious. They can prepare the most fresh and tasty pasta meal in 15 minutes, just by using 5 simple and cheap ingredients. The genius part is combining flavors that nobody thought would work together.

The best pizza just uses flour, water, tomatos, basil, cheese, olive oil, done right it's an absolute delicacy.

by Anonymousreply 21November 28, 2020 11:47 PM

Wayne and me like the Olive Garden

by Anonymousreply 22November 28, 2020 11:48 PM

Pizza is the ultimate white trash food, not invented in Italy, despite what people think. It’s best served with ranch dressing, they come together because it was meant to be.

by Anonymousreply 23November 29, 2020 12:35 AM

OP is constantly scolding the other denizens of Joplin, Missouri's "A Gay" set for this, as they insist on driving to Springfield to eat at the Olive Garden there.

His pleas to drive to Bentonville to dine at Le Petit Bistro go unheeded.

by Anonymousreply 24November 29, 2020 12:41 AM

R23 is describing his Thanksgiving dinner.

by Anonymousreply 25November 29, 2020 12:42 AM

For every pizza there is a Nutella and banana crepe

by Anonymousreply 26November 29, 2020 12:43 AM

You're so elite and sophisticated OP.

It may not be Haute Cuisine, but I'm still going to eat it.

by Anonymousreply 27November 29, 2020 12:44 AM

My rule, if it’s frequently eaten from a can, I don’t eat it. Trash!

by Anonymousreply 28November 29, 2020 12:46 AM

[quote] Darlene Bucket

Is that pronounced “bouquet”?

by Anonymousreply 29November 29, 2020 3:41 AM

Italian cuisine is haute adjacent.

by Anonymousreply 30November 29, 2020 3:51 AM
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