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Obsession with gold, silver, precious gemstones

Diamonds, pearls, rubies, etc.

Doesn't this seem rather archaic that we assign such significance and prestige to them? These are multi billion dollar industries involving mining and such costly endeavors. It seems like a holdover from the ancient days.

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by Anonymousreply 51November 18, 2020 5:18 AM

Diamonds never go out of style.

by Anonymousreply 1November 16, 2020 6:29 AM

Haven't De Beers' sales been on a decline for awhile now?

by Anonymousreply 2November 16, 2020 6:35 AM

I'm with you OP. I can understand the appeal a few centuries ago, but nowadays, it would seem that so many other things would hold more value (real estate, access to healthcare, weapons, access to freedom). Seems like a leftover from the past.

by Anonymousreply 3November 16, 2020 6:39 AM

[quote] … we assign such significance and prestige…

Foolish people pay millions for rubbish by Jackson Pollock and Robert Rauschenberg.

by Anonymousreply 4November 16, 2020 6:44 AM

Painite is apparently the most rare of the precious stones.

by Anonymousreply 5November 16, 2020 6:57 AM

Square-cut or pear-shaped, these rocks don't lose their shape!

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by Anonymousreply 6November 16, 2020 7:06 AM

Synthetic diamonds are now a market.

Visually a CZ and a diamond are optically identical to the human eye.

Why bother.

by Anonymousreply 7November 16, 2020 7:12 AM

People and their bling. It’s like watching monkeys get excited over shiny rocks. We’re not as evolved as we think.

by Anonymousreply 8November 16, 2020 7:17 AM

Rarity makes a commodity. If we lived in a world where seashells were rare, those would be considered precious. This hasn't changed since modern humans evolved.

by Anonymousreply 9November 16, 2020 7:20 AM

It's all about pussy = wealth.

by Anonymousreply 10November 16, 2020 7:25 AM

I collect semi-precious gemstones, since I can't afford truly precious gemstones of any great quality. I find certain stones to be artistically inspiring: nature produces color combinations and patterns that we can only aspire to match. I've never bought any stones for investment or resale value.

by Anonymousreply 11November 16, 2020 7:41 AM

R11 that sounds pretty cool.

by Anonymousreply 12November 16, 2020 9:34 AM

Diamonds are beautiful but are very common and the de beers cartel keeps the price artificially inflated. Synthetic Diamonds, rubies, emeralds can be made in the lab virtually identical.

Gold and stones are portable and have value beyond currency which is essentially ones and zeros backed by the full faith and credit of the USA or whatever country so essentially worthless if someone like trump bleeds the country dry. If shit gets real you can break off part of a gold bracelet and trade it for food or weapons and live another day. My mom worked with refugees and they told her they buy/wear gold jewelry as a resource in case of emergency

by Anonymousreply 13November 16, 2020 9:52 AM

In the developed world, precious metals and precious jewels do not retain their value after you purchase them unless they are historically famous pieces (such as named diamonds, or jewels owned by royal figures from the past).

Diamonds are not "very common" by any means--the real things are still very rare, and there still is high demand for them.

by Anonymousreply 14November 16, 2020 6:00 PM

Silver and gold mean so much more when I see silver and gold decorations on every Xmas tree.

by Anonymousreply 15November 16, 2020 6:02 PM

Diamonds are forever.

by Anonymousreply 16November 16, 2020 6:44 PM

It's all about aquamarine.

by Anonymousreply 17November 16, 2020 9:39 PM

Blood Diamonds turned me off of diamonds forever.

by Anonymousreply 18November 16, 2020 10:19 PM

R18. How can you tell a so-called 'blood diamond' from a 'non-blood diamond'?

by Anonymousreply 19November 17, 2020 7:56 AM

R7 Not just visually but like Diamonds, I never get old, physically

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by Anonymousreply 20November 17, 2020 8:05 AM

Well, yes, what we know most about ancient people often centers in their luxury items,luxury metals and stones among them.

Before we trusted our wealth to strings of numbers we trusted it to tangible things, to strings of gold or pearls or jewels. And people still fo., as part of dowries, as guard against emergencies, as a tradition of luxury gifts and entanglements.

I assume that people buying 6- and 7-figure gems and jewelry already have a few of life's basic needs under their (gold) belts. There's not much point in the ungodly expensive emerald necklace if you don't have a nice place to life and some other luxuries.

They're beautiful things, or can be, and the subject of legends and history and while some people like them and some don't, all recognize what they are and what they mean to others.

Even the archaic aspect that you point out is part of the appeal to some, an old-fashioned jesture.

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by Anonymousreply 21November 17, 2020 8:32 AM

The hold their value if they are large enough. They don't crash like real estate or the stock market. A 1 carat diamond is very common, so that 5,000 stone will only fetch you about $800 if you try to sell it back to a jeweler. But if you have a 7 carat diamond which is VERY rare you could be looking at $1,000,000 purchase price that will fetch the same if not more a decade later.

That's why rich people buy jewelry and mega mansions. It's a place to park their money outside of a standard bank which will only insure it's money to maxim 100,000 dollars regardless of how many million may be in your account.

If you think about it, a lot easier to transport a hand full of million dollar stones than sell some mega mansion.

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by Anonymousreply 22November 17, 2020 9:03 AM

R11 have you heard of Benitoite? It's very rare, only found in the San Benito hills of California. More rare than diamonds. It can be cut into gems and looks like a blue sapphire. Glows under a black light. Been wanting to get my hands on some for a rock collection but it's so damn expensive I don't know if I will ever get one.

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by Anonymousreply 23November 17, 2020 9:09 AM
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by Anonymousreply 24November 17, 2020 9:12 AM

But OP gay men like shiny thing. FACT.

by Anonymousreply 25November 17, 2020 9:20 AM

"We" didn't assign value to shit. Wealthy people did. Everything in this world is linked to monetary value. It's all money and sex - the evidence of which surrounds us perpetually. Diamonds, fine art, antiques? A rich man's game to park their currency with expected increased valuation over time - those items are banks.

by Anonymousreply 26November 17, 2020 12:27 PM

Ahhhh, the TIARA thread.

r24, thank you.

by Anonymousreply 27November 17, 2020 3:00 PM

Once upon a time spices were worth more than gold. Nowadays, we give even more value to printed paper and coins (aka cash money).

A few people decide what's worth what and the rest goes along with it to make their lives a bit easier (even when it means they can't afford what they want). Because, at our core, we need a sense of order where everything has its label, is properly categorized, and a value is attached to it.

by Anonymousreply 28November 17, 2020 3:28 PM

Whoever obsessed with gemstones just need a better hobby. I heard painting is good.

by Anonymousreply 29November 17, 2020 3:36 PM

I love them, though you are probably right, op. They are just pretty rocks when all is said and done.

by Anonymousreply 30November 17, 2020 3:46 PM

My mom used to be obsessed with jewelry--tons of gold and jewels. When she died, we just put her stuff into safety deposit boxes. None of us really wanted it and have any idea what to do with it.

by Anonymousreply 31November 17, 2020 3:47 PM

Diamonds are a girl's best friend,

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by Anonymousreply 32November 17, 2020 3:51 PM

r31 you could sell it

by Anonymousreply 33November 17, 2020 3:53 PM

R33, Yes we could sell it (not really sure how that's done), but much of the stuff is ancestral (from her grandma and mom)--so we shouldn't just get rid of those.

Instead, generation after generation will pay for safety deposit boxes.

by Anonymousreply 34November 17, 2020 3:57 PM

My sister brought some of her jewelry over for safe keeping while she was in the process of moving.

It's so weird how having valuable things in the house suddenly made me so paranoid about their safety. I was so happy when she took them back about a month later.

by Anonymousreply 35November 17, 2020 3:59 PM

The provenance is just as valuable as the item.

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by Anonymousreply 36November 17, 2020 6:23 PM

Are pearls gemstones?

by Anonymousreply 37November 17, 2020 6:47 PM

R7, sorry, that's not true..the differences between .CZ and Diamond are very easily distinguished by the human eye.

by Anonymousreply 38November 17, 2020 6:47 PM

“Oooh, a sparkly!”

by Anonymousreply 39November 17, 2020 6:50 PM

[quote] "We" didn't assign value to shit.

Don't place value on it, R26. Place it in the toilet!

by Anonymousreply 40November 17, 2020 7:34 PM

^^^ Hey everyone! It's the guy with the pet peeve "people who use the word shit while referring to stuff."

-R26

by Anonymousreply 41November 17, 2020 8:32 PM

[quote] safety deposit boxes

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 42November 18, 2020 2:18 AM

R23, I've read about Benitoite, but never seen an example in person. I assume it's outside my price range, so I'm lucky I'm not a completist. I do have tiny examples of some of the traditional precious stones (diamonds, rubies, sapphires, emeralds), but I get more enjoyment from some of the larger examples that I own, especially topazes and amethysts.

R37, Yes, pearls are gemstones. There are a lot of different types of pearls with various origins.

by Anonymousreply 43November 18, 2020 2:32 AM

[quote]That's why rich people buy jewelry and mega mansions. It's a place to park their money outside of a standard bank which will only insure it's money to maxim 100,000 dollars regardless of how many million may be in your account.

R22 - FYI the FDIC insurance limit increased from $100K to $250K in 2008. It was originally intended to be a temporary increase until end of 2010 during the financial crisis, but was extended and then made permanent when Dodd Frank passed.

by Anonymousreply 44November 18, 2020 2:59 AM

The state of Massachusetts has many banks which will ensure your loot no matter how much you have. Goes well beyond FDIC. Only state in the union which does this.

by Anonymousreply 45November 18, 2020 3:15 AM

Hearts not diamonds!

by Anonymousreply 46November 18, 2020 3:18 AM

***insure Depositors Insurance Fund

Not many, but a select minimum

by Anonymousreply 47November 18, 2020 3:19 AM

She's got diamonds on the soles of her shoes!

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by Anonymousreply 48November 18, 2020 3:55 AM

I grew up wearing jewelry because that's the kind of parents I had.

If you were dressing up for any occasion, I would break out a ring (signet, onyx or star sapphire), the gold watch, (which I hated because why would a little kid need to know the time?), and a heavy 24k gold ID bracelet with my name spelled out in raised gold Chinese menu letters. (See below). No idea why my parents picked that font.

Also, a heavy duty gold religious medallion and chain around my neck if it was a church event.

The weirder part was my mother, who had a series of diamond, pearl, and other gemstone earrings. Whether they were pierced or clip on earrings--they caused her to have a migraine. So she took migraine medication before putting the earrings on.

Think Carribean rapper/mafia.

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by Anonymousreply 49November 18, 2020 4:15 AM

Were you raised by Madonnas R49?

by Anonymousreply 50November 18, 2020 5:02 AM

Here are a few stones in my collection (jade, opal and lapis). I have some rings and pendants made with semi-precious stones, but my fashion sense has gotten more conservative with age, so they're stored with the watches and neckties that are no longer worn.

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by Anonymousreply 51November 18, 2020 5:18 AM
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