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Swing Shift: The film that illustrated the struggle between a director's vision and a star's vanity

In 1984, Swing Shift was released to middling reviews and was not a box office hit for star Goldie Hawn, but it did snag co-star Christine Lahti a Best Supporting Actress nomination.

The film, about women who go into the workforce while their husbands go to war during WWII, was directed by then rising star director Jonathan Demme, fresh off the success of both Melvin and Howard and the Talking Heads concert film, Stop Making Sense, generally considered to be one of the best concert films of all time. This was perhaps his biggest film to date, with Hawn as the star of the film and an ensemble which featured Kurt Russell (who would eventually become Hawn's romantic partner in real life) and future Oscar winner Holly Hunter; Belinda Carlisle even makes an appearance as a singer.

When Demme submitted his workprint of the film, star (and co-producer) Hawn was not pleased with the film. She didn't like the way her character came across. Rewrites and reshoots were requested (by Hawn or the studio, or both, remains the question) and both Demme and screenwriter Nancy Dowd were not pleased (Dowd requested a pseudonym, "Rob Morton", be used).

Rumor was that Hawn was not pleased with how co-star Lahti was "stealing" the film from her. In her autobiography, Hawn wrote that she felt Demme's cut didn't pay tribute to the women who entered the workforce during WWII and that her character didn't seem to have a conscience about falling in love with another man while her husband was at war.

A cut featuring reshoots and scenes from Demme's cut was eventually released to theatres but even critics could tell scenes were missing and the film had been tinkered with.

Rumors of a director's cut floating around have surfaced for years and in recent years, many people have admitted to having seen it.

I recently watched it and I have to say it's very much worth watching. It's a lot less Hollywood than the released version. You can definitely see that the theatrical version was tailored to be a star vehicle for Hawn. One of the interesting things about Demme's version is there are less close-ups of Hawn; she is more part of the ensemble than the star. Lahti does seem to get more love from the camera, but it's just that her character and performance are so compelling. However, Hawn is great too in Demme's cut. Her character is a lot more nuanced in Demme's version, more sexually liberated and she and Russell have great chemistry in Demme's version. In the theatrical version, their film relationship is hampered by contrived arguments whereas Demme's version, their relationship is much more erotic and organic. There's also some surprising nudity by all three main stars which was cut for the theatrical version. I don't think Russell has ever been more handsome or sexier.

The sound editing in Demme's version is also much more authentic and natural. You can see actors being dubbed in the theatrical film. Even in the last scene, one of Lahti's lines is muted (her back is to the camera). In one of the most intriguing sequences of the Demme's cut, Lahti's character runs into her ex-boyfriend at a dance hall who is being shipped out to war by the Navy. One of his fellow Navy men comes up to him and says "They're playing our song. Let's go." There's seems to be a gay subtext there. But in the theatrical version, the actor is dubbed and simply says "Let's go".

Here is the director's cut if you've never seen it before. Decide for yourself if Hawn, as star and producer, was right, or was Demme's version too inaccessible for audiences? Remember this is a workprint so it was most likely not the final version but you can definitely see Demme's stamp over this version.

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by Anonymousreply 154October 9, 2021 7:19 AM

This link is saying there's an error.

by Anonymousreply 1November 6, 2020 2:35 AM

Ah. Got it. Nevermind.

by Anonymousreply 2November 6, 2020 2:36 AM

Haha...I thought you meant Night Shift with Fonzie and Michael Keaton...never won any oscars tho but same era!

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by Anonymousreply 3November 6, 2020 2:49 AM

I've never seen the release. Thanks for the link.

by Anonymousreply 4November 6, 2020 2:49 AM

I remember there being a lot of expectations for the movie but it pretty much fizzled after the release.

by Anonymousreply 5November 6, 2020 2:54 AM

What made Stop Making Sense such a great concert film?

by Anonymousreply 6November 6, 2020 2:56 AM

Goldie Hawn.......what a piece of shit!

by Anonymousreply 7November 6, 2020 2:56 AM

I’ve always been a fan of Christine Lahti.

by Anonymousreply 8November 6, 2020 2:56 AM

Why is a work print in Pan and Scan ratio?

by Anonymousreply 9November 6, 2020 2:57 AM

Swing Shift: The film that illustrated Ed Harris’ penis!

by Anonymousreply 10November 6, 2020 2:57 AM

Cinematographer Tak Fujimoto wanted to have a shot of Japanese Americans being placed into internment camps the way he was, but Goldie refused.

by Anonymousreply 11November 6, 2020 2:57 AM

There is a reference to the Japanese in this version r11, which was cut for the theatrical version.

by Anonymousreply 12November 6, 2020 3:01 AM

Wow! There's a pretty phenomenal shot of Kurt Russell's naked ass in this and we've really been missing out. It's beautiful. Truly porn star worthy.

by Anonymousreply 13November 6, 2020 3:01 AM

where in the film does it come r13

I wonder if Ed Harris' dick slip was accidental. He seemed to like to do that. There are some slips in Sweet Dreams too if you look close.

by Anonymousreply 14November 6, 2020 3:05 AM

Goldie seems pretty flat from the opening few minutes. Lahti is given a star shot when she's shown onstage at her singing gig. Harris is shown in close up delivering his "I'm going to sign up" speech and then we don't get a similar shot of Goldie in return, just an over the shoulder two shot.

by Anonymousreply 15November 6, 2020 3:05 AM

This seems to be Goldie Hawn in a Sally Field part.

by Anonymousreply 16November 6, 2020 3:07 AM

Lahti and Fred Willard as a couple seems a bit of a stretch. But it already feels like her movie.

by Anonymousreply 17November 6, 2020 3:10 AM

Wasn't the Wizard of Oz a flop originally?

by Anonymousreply 18November 6, 2020 3:11 AM

[quote] One of the interesting things about Demme's version is there are less close-ups of Hawn

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 19November 6, 2020 3:12 AM

When Lahti's character rebuffs Hawn, they missed an opportunity for her character to speak up that it was only her husband who threw wisecracks out about Lahti. It could have been an important moment in Hawn's character moving towards becoming her own person and not a bystander to her husband's actions.

by Anonymousreply 20November 6, 2020 3:18 AM

The character seems so passive and uninteresting otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 21November 6, 2020 3:18 AM

I heard Lahti speak once and when Swing Shift came up she laughed and said it was a roller coaster in post-production. At various times she heard she was being cut out completely, role reduced and then she got an Oscar nomination.

by Anonymousreply 22November 6, 2020 3:24 AM

Who the fuck cuts their hair in the bath?!

by Anonymousreply 23November 6, 2020 3:24 AM

Lahti's eye makeup when she's lying on Kay's couch is very '80s.

by Anonymousreply 24November 6, 2020 3:26 AM

If you want to see another great directors cut check out 54. The version that was released was a mess. The directors cut is much more coherent and sexual. It’s like watching two different movies.

by Anonymousreply 25November 6, 2020 3:30 AM

Agreed r25. The 54 director's cut is very good.

by Anonymousreply 26November 6, 2020 3:39 AM

Didn't the 54 director's cut have to be assemble from videotape? How could the footage not have been kept?!

by Anonymousreply 27November 6, 2020 3:40 AM

Belinda Carlisle as a band singer?! Dreadful.

by Anonymousreply 28November 6, 2020 3:42 AM

They edited it on tape so they had to make do with workprint footage. Miramax was no longer owned by Disney when they restored it, so it's possible some scenes might have been misplaced or lost in transit.

by Anonymousreply 29November 6, 2020 3:42 AM

even after everything that went down - Goldie Hawn and Christine Lahti still remain BFF even after all these years,

by Anonymousreply 30November 6, 2020 3:47 AM

Goldie looks a mess when Kurt drops her home but she had movie star hair when they're dry and inside.

by Anonymousreply 31November 6, 2020 3:50 AM

*has movie star hair

by Anonymousreply 32November 6, 2020 3:50 AM

r25, "If you want to see another great directors cut check out 54. The version that was released was a mess. The directors cut is much more coherent and sexual. It’s like watching two different movies."

Tell me about it!

by Anonymousreply 33November 6, 2020 3:55 AM

The [italic]54[/italic] DC also restores Erika Alexander's part to the film as well as the evidence that Cameron Mathison's character was gay.

by Anonymousreply 34November 6, 2020 3:56 AM

The director's cut of The Abyss is pretty good too. There's about 30 minutes of additional footage.

by Anonymousreply 35November 6, 2020 3:57 AM

I've always loved this movie. I think the 40's period detail, costumes, hairstyles, decor is totally spot-on. Hawn, Russell, Lahti and Harris are all very good especially Lahti.

And the music! Perfect. The theme song (sung by Carly Simon) "Someone Waits For You" is wonderful. I actually bought a Simon CD specifically for this song. I still listen to it every so often.

by Anonymousreply 36November 6, 2020 3:58 AM

Wasn’t Goldie a producer on Swing Shift? For me, sexy Ed Harris steals the movie. Goldie is great. Lahti has the showy role and is a fantastic actress so of course, like Eileen Brennan in Private Benjamin, she got attention and nominations.

by Anonymousreply 37November 6, 2020 3:59 AM

And, in the 54 directors cut, they minimized Mike Myers dreadful Steve Rubell impersonation and cut the sappy ending.

by Anonymousreply 38November 6, 2020 4:00 AM

Rob Marshall stole Mark Christopher's career.

by Anonymousreply 39November 6, 2020 4:01 AM

I don't think there's much of a throughline to Goldie's performance. They first time she takes a ride on Kurt's bike, one of her line readings makes it seem like she's already decided to sleep with him. But some of her work later contradicts that. The character isn't very well defined.

by Anonymousreply 40November 6, 2020 4:06 AM

And her unease when Kurt is finally in her house... it makes it seem... not credible that she would have let him in in the first place, rain be damned. Maybe they could have gotten away with the plot device if Goldie insisted they sit on her porch and not go inside the house.

by Anonymousreply 41November 6, 2020 4:08 AM

[quote] And, in the 54 directors cut, they minimized Mike Myers dreadful Steve Rubell impersonation and cut the sappy ending.

They also pared down Neve Campbell's part which was just a pointless way for Disney to promote [italic]All My Children[/italic] now that they also owned ABC. That's what makes it all the more ironic they cut Cameron Mathison's part down since HE WAS ACTUALLY ON THE FUCKING SHOW!

by Anonymousreply 42November 6, 2020 4:08 AM

"I'm married! Dontcha understand that? Dontcha get it?" Dreadful. Imagine if Jessica Lange had played the part.

by Anonymousreply 43November 6, 2020 4:18 AM

If Jessica Lange had taken the part, she might not have been able to do the role in [italic]Country[/italic] that got her an Oscar nomination.

by Anonymousreply 44November 6, 2020 4:19 AM

Which Gogos’ song does Belinda sing?

by Anonymousreply 45November 6, 2020 4:21 AM

She was the producer of that r44 so I'd think she could have set her own schedule.

by Anonymousreply 46November 6, 2020 4:21 AM

This movie must have really disappointed Private Benjamin fans. It sort of seems like goofy Goldie will now do WWII. Instead you got her cheating on her soldier husband which is never a good thing.

by Anonymousreply 47November 6, 2020 4:23 AM

It don't mean a thing if it ain't got the swing. And this movie ain't got it.

by Anonymousreply 48November 6, 2020 4:25 AM

And OP explains why.

by Anonymousreply 49November 6, 2020 4:28 AM

The death of Holly Hunter's husband would have been a perfect time for a self hating monologue for Goldie's character. Kurt doesn't really have his own story in the movie.

by Anonymousreply 50November 6, 2020 4:28 AM

The movie belongs to Ed Harris’ peen. There’s no other reason to watch the movie.

by Anonymousreply 51November 6, 2020 4:36 AM

R51=Amy Madigan

by Anonymousreply 52November 6, 2020 4:37 AM

Excuse me, r51?

by Anonymousreply 53November 6, 2020 4:37 AM

I've always found Fred Ward extremely sexy and fuckable. And dressed in Navy uniform, even more so...

by Anonymousreply 54November 6, 2020 4:38 AM

Does the Harris peen ever meet up with the Russell ass?

by Anonymousreply 55November 6, 2020 4:39 AM

I can't imagine that happening with two total tops.

by Anonymousreply 56November 6, 2020 4:42 AM

You'd be surprised what studios accidentally throw out. In the late 1990s Paramount were having a big clean out of a stack of Days of Thunder prints (what is the point of keeping them all) and in the process somebody accidentally throw out the original negative of Days of Heaven.

by Anonymousreply 57November 6, 2020 4:51 AM

Has anyone even looked for the corresponding negatives to the outtakes?

by Anonymousreply 58November 6, 2020 4:54 AM

True, r57. It's like the "slashed footage" from Friday the 13th Part 2. They had to track it down to someone who worked on the film who had it saved on a still decent-looking VHS tape.

And that was also Paramount...

by Anonymousreply 59November 6, 2020 4:58 AM

Yet Francis Ford Coppola saved enough trims from [italic]Godfather III[/italic] to create an "and this time I mean it" final cut in the hopes that someday it will actually be good.

by Anonymousreply 60November 6, 2020 5:01 AM

[quote]And that was also Paramount...

So was [italic]The Brady Bunch[/italic], and the DVDs make it pretty obvious what was cut from syndication because restoring the episodes to uncut versions meant settling for faded prints to fill in the gaps.

by Anonymousreply 61November 6, 2020 5:03 AM

That music rings through my head like an auditory aphrodisiac and FLOP! There it is.

"How cheap can ya get?" indeed.

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by Anonymousreply 62November 6, 2020 5:06 AM

Here's a lengthy feature about it. I never considered it that important, but this writer does.

Can someone reshare the Google Drive link, perhaps with sp -ces-in the body text?

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by Anonymousreply 63November 6, 2020 5:11 AM

Never mind; here it is:

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by Anonymousreply 64November 6, 2020 5:16 AM

Who is the "Why Don't You Do Right?" singer?

by Anonymousreply 65November 6, 2020 5:19 AM

Grrr. Go to the link on this page (but Ed's dick is blocked by the time code).

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by Anonymousreply 66November 6, 2020 5:20 AM

Goldie: "I was in love!"

Christine: "SHADDUP"

Did anyone else get "Death Becomes Her" vibes from that exchange?

by Anonymousreply 67November 6, 2020 5:24 AM

It's an awkward movie, tonally. What the hell was that "Beaches" ending. It made me think how "A League of Their Own" did it better, no matter how frau.

by Anonymousreply 68November 6, 2020 5:48 AM

Christine Lahti seemed like another version of Sigourney Weaver. I know they're very different, but I think they would probably get cast (casted?) in similar roles.

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by Anonymousreply 69November 6, 2020 6:00 AM

Lahti's film career never really happened. She got the Oscar nod and a few other film roles but then quickly ended up on TV.

Housekeeping was supposed to be a huge film for her. First she replaced Diane Keaton who dropped out. They were positioning if for Oscar season but the studio lost faith in it or changed presidents and they just let it fizzle.

by Anonymousreply 70November 6, 2020 6:06 AM

R70 Which is a shame because Housekeeping was a gem! I loved that movie!!

by Anonymousreply 71November 6, 2020 6:12 AM

I do too r71

by Anonymousreply 72November 6, 2020 6:12 AM

OP or someone please help. Anytime I hit any of the links, all I get is this:

[404. That’s an error. The requested URL /get_player was not found on this server. That’s all we know.]

by Anonymousreply 73November 6, 2020 6:14 AM

Housekeeping is one of my favorites too. I didn’t know that about Diane Keaton, so glad she dropped out.

by Anonymousreply 74November 6, 2020 6:28 AM

Yes, I get the same message as r73. Is there another way to post it?

by Anonymousreply 75November 6, 2020 12:47 PM

Kurt Russell was really hot back in the day. Those dimples!

by Anonymousreply 76November 6, 2020 1:05 PM

I'd seen Kurt's ass before in Tango and Cash, but he must have lost a lot of weight for that movie or something, because his ass here is a work of art. I've never seen an ass I wanted to bury my face in more. For those wondering, it makes a big appearance around 48 minutes and 30 seconds into the video.

by Anonymousreply 77November 6, 2020 5:13 PM

At the script stage someone should have realized that Lahti's character should be the protagonist. They could have had a proto Thelma & Louise dynamic, with the Goldie character as the less than smart, ditzy one. Over course, Goldie wouldn't have accepted second banana. I could actually picture Farrah Fawcett playing that well.

by Anonymousreply 78November 6, 2020 5:31 PM

Goldie was pushing forty at the time; no way was she believable as a young wife whose husband was drafted into the military. I always chuckle when film actresses attempt to play younger than they really are. Most of them have done it at least once.

by Anonymousreply 79November 6, 2020 6:57 PM

Agreed, Goldie should have acted her age. No one was fooled, it was kind of pathetic watching her straining to be young and fresh.

by Anonymousreply 80November 6, 2020 7:05 PM

Goldie didn't look 40 but outside of the cutsey, giggly thing to which she sometimes defaults, her speaking voice is deep and authoritative. She didn't come across as naive. Sissy Spacek, who's five years younger, might have done a better job. I could also see Debra Winger in the Lahti role. I would not have cast Fred Ward. There's something rather campy about him, like he's wandered in from some old b-movie.

I think there's a successful movie in the idea/basic story.

by Anonymousreply 81November 6, 2020 7:19 PM

R73, R75, go to this link which has a Google Drive link. It may help if you have a Google account and log in.

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by Anonymousreply 82November 6, 2020 7:33 PM

I saw it in the theatre. It wasn't bad, but Goldie Hawn really can't do drama. The other thing I remembered Belinda Carlisle trying to sing in that club scene. Just awful.

by Anonymousreply 83November 6, 2020 7:36 PM

In 1981 Spacek played a single WWII mom working as a telephone operator, not the swing shift, in "Raggedy Man". Her sailor was Eric Roberts. Different tone from "Swing Shift", but a much better movie, and Spacek was great,

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by Anonymousreply 84November 6, 2020 7:38 PM

Thanks, r84. I'll check it out.

by Anonymousreply 85November 6, 2020 7:42 PM

When did Belinda get her first nosejob?

by Anonymousreply 86November 6, 2020 7:42 PM

I was not able to get on the link OP provided. Is there some other way? Thanks.

by Anonymousreply 87December 25, 2020 7:09 PM

R69. I see your comparison, but I always found Laurie a bit edgier and slightly off-kilter, and, hence, more interesting than Weaver (whom I also think is a very good actress).

by Anonymousreply 88December 25, 2020 7:50 PM

Thanks OP! I liked the original version. Excited to see director’s cut

by Anonymousreply 89December 25, 2020 8:23 PM

Didn’t Goldie have body AND cunt odor?

by Anonymousreply 90December 26, 2020 12:00 AM

[quote] Even in the last scene, one of Lahti's lines is muted (her back is to the camera).

That’s right.

Right where she belongs.

by Anonymousreply 91December 26, 2020 12:34 AM

[quote]r70 Lahti's film career never really happened.

I get her mixed up with that other Also Ran, Joanna Cassidy.

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by Anonymousreply 92December 26, 2020 12:41 AM

I hope the directors cut comes out on dvd as that counter at the bottom is too distracting.

by Anonymousreply 93December 26, 2020 3:00 AM

I like Lahti, but I always found her a bit cold as an actress which is why she never seemed to become a big star.

I find Weaver warmer, less brittle, and funnier.

by Anonymousreply 94December 26, 2020 3:50 AM

I like Lahti, but I always found her a bit cold as an actress which is why she never seemed to become a big star.

I find Weaver warmer, less brittle, and funnier.

by Anonymousreply 95December 26, 2020 3:50 AM

Someone upthread noted that Goldie had bad hygiene. Wasn’t it Andy Warhol or Truman Capote who wrote that in their diaries? Goldie always looked funky.

by Anonymousreply 96December 28, 2020 4:03 PM

[quote]A cut featuring reshoots and scenes from Demme's cut was eventually released to theatres but even critics could tell scenes were missing and the film had been tinkered with.

But EVEN critics could tell? Back then, it was probably ONLY the critics who could tell, and those in the biz themselves. What a weird way to phrase that.

by Anonymousreply 97December 28, 2020 4:11 PM

Can't guarantee the link here but I found someone on Twitter who says he has a link to a torrent of the director's cut workprint, in case you can't get OP's link to work.

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by Anonymousreply 98December 28, 2020 4:15 PM

It was Julia Phillips who said that Goldie never washed her hair.

Part of that could have been bitter feelings because Goldie decided not to do Julia's production of Fear of Flying.

by Anonymousreply 99December 28, 2020 4:19 PM

I have never seen SWING SHIFT in any form, but considering what Goldie Hawn has done to her face over the years in terms of plastic surgery and/or botox or whatever, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if her vanity had a negative impact on that movie. (Of course, the terrible irony is that what she has done to her face has actually made her look far worse, like some horrible monster, than if she had had less extensive work done, or none at all.)

by Anonymousreply 100December 28, 2020 4:21 PM

Actually Julia wanted Fear of Flying to be her directorial debut.

The film fell apart when Julia and Erica Jong fell out, and then Goldie bailed. I think Julia thought Goldie would support her because they had become close friends, but she bailed, and Julia and Erica went to ligation. Julia slammed both in her book, and Erica's next book was about a self absorbed, clueless hollywood producer.

by Anonymousreply 101December 28, 2020 4:23 PM

R96 It was Julia Phillips, in You'll Never Eat Lunch in this Town Again.

by Anonymousreply 102December 28, 2020 4:28 PM

I've seen the theatrical cut of Swing Shift so I'm pretty curious about this director's workprint cut. Thanks to the OP for linking it, I downloaded it in case it disappears.

by Anonymousreply 103December 28, 2020 4:58 PM

So Hawk blew a chance to make a better film all because of her ego?

What if she had not edited the film? Lahti did get a BSA nom from the Academy, right? Suppose she had won based on her uncut scenes? Goldie would have been mentioned as a producer of an OSCAR WINNING FILM in subsequent press releases.

by Anonymousreply 104December 28, 2020 5:05 PM

Does any of this affect me today or tomorrow? I don't even understand it.

by Anonymousreply 105December 28, 2020 5:23 PM

[quote]Absolutely, R105. News stories and gossip are only interesting if they affect our lives personally.

The fact that you think this way, plus the fact that you don't understand a story written with utmost clarity, indicates that you're probably not as astrophysicist.

by Anonymousreply 106December 28, 2020 8:01 PM

If it doesn't affect you then why are you in the thread?

Moving on, I'm always fascinated by films which are butchered or taken out of the director's hands and edited down or changed.

I think the two saddest examples are Sergio Leone's Once Upon a Time In America which was cut down from its almost four-hour length to 139 minutes and made no sense, and then the Weinsteins destroying Mark Christopher's 54, taking out all the gay content and releasing a dull, sanitized and tame look at the NYC club amidst the disco era. Thankfully, both films have been released in director cuts. I consider Once Upon a Time in America a masterpiece and I think 54, in its director's cut format, is a much stronger film.

by Anonymousreply 107December 28, 2020 8:07 PM

I just finished watching it. Either I have little recollection of the original, or this is a completely different movie. Certainly a better one.

I also don't recall Kurt Russell being butt naked. Ed Harris, yes, (just a peek), but I think I would have remembered Kurt.

by Anonymousreply 108December 28, 2020 10:14 PM

R30 that’s the most interesting thing maybe about the whole thing. Are they really currently good friends - and always have been? I don’t understand how they wouldn’t involve some massive falling out.

Also what’s weird to me is that this whole ordeal was a pretty damning character assassination of Hawn, and yet - it didn’t really affect her career at all. She’s not a star who gets labeled as “difficult” or “egocentric” (and for a woman especially one film can be enough to successfully put on that label). Did people in the business just never pay any kind to what happened on this movie, like it didn’t exist?

R95 I agree with your assessment of Weaver vs Lahti, but let’s face it, Weaver is a lot more attractive and that’s the main reason she could become a star and Lahti couldn’t. Maybe she would have had more success in the 70s when there was a push for “more real” looking actresses and someone like Jane Alexander could star in movies, but really no.

by Anonymousreply 109December 28, 2020 10:16 PM

I did forget to add that the only thing I could sympathize with Hawn on is the lack of close ups - and if she wanted some more edited in, I don’t think that would be unreasonable at all. A lot of great acting you wouldn’t even be able to tell it was great if there were not enough close ups. (Not that she was necessarily great or close to great here, but I can totally understand being pissed with that)

by Anonymousreply 110December 28, 2020 10:19 PM

Thanks OP. I was curious to see the difference.

I have to say though that I found this version as boring as the one that played in theaters. I honestly can't see how anyone got a nomination for this. It was a loooooong 1:46 minutes. Hawn was already 39 in this and still playing it like she was a 20 year old bride. She's what now, 75, I wonder if she's still acting like she's early 20s. It's really gross. I don't like Russel as a person. He thinks murdering animals is a sport. Hawn is no better for being with him. I think she used to or still does wear fur. Sorry, IMO a good or even half way decent person doesn't do either. That said, he seems to be much younger than Hawn

by Anonymousreply 111December 28, 2020 11:19 PM

R104. The only way Laurie would have won would have been if Dame Peggy Ashcroft had been placed in Leading Actress (which is where she won for some of the Critics associations—and given how weak the category was that year, Ashcroft could easily have won, even if co-star Judy Davis was also nominated). Legendary British stage actress in one of the great roles from 20th century literature (Mrs. Moore) would have beaten Lahti and all the ladies up for Best Actress.

Not as true in recent years. I remember when Lillian Gish was not nominated (and people thought she would be) for “The Whales of August” (if only for surviving a shoot with post-strike Bette Davis at her cuntiest—and I live Davis, think she should have won at least two more Oscars more, but still...), Gish was reported to say, “Well, at least now I don’t have to face losing to Cher!” Same withEmmanuelle Riva, Charlotte Rampling, and our darling Glenn—Glenn May yet win, likely for something far from her best, like “Hillbilly Elegy,” no doubt.

by Anonymousreply 112December 29, 2020 12:32 AM

Ok just finished watching it. If this is the original cut then Hawn is obviously the main character and is prominently featured. I don't understand the reshooting; it's not Lahti's fault that she made gold out of the rubble given to her.

by Anonymousreply 113December 29, 2020 2:57 AM

Goldie is unbearable.

by Anonymousreply 114December 29, 2020 4:16 AM

Recent pic of Goldie. Presented without comment.

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by Anonymousreply 115December 29, 2020 5:12 AM

Goldie was never a beautiful woman. Cute yes and could be more attractive with the right makeup and lighting , but never really pretty.

And for those who say that Lahti is not attractive and that’s why she’s not a bigger star, explain Bette Midler.

by Anonymousreply 116December 29, 2020 2:22 PM

Ed Harris peen, please

by Anonymousreply 117December 29, 2020 2:39 PM

This thread has me curious about Christine Lahti.

Did she get blackballed in H'wood after stealing the movie from Goldie? She was so fantastic in a few early movies and then....splat.

Nothing much until Chicago Hope, and then that petered out too.

Is she difficult? What's her deal?

by Anonymousreply 118December 29, 2020 3:43 PM

[quote]And for those who say that Lahti is not attractive and that’s why she’s not a bigger star, explain Bette Midler.

Bette Midler is a unique talent with loads of charisma on screen.

Lahti is a great actress, but nothing about her really makes her stand out from the pack.

by Anonymousreply 119December 29, 2020 3:58 PM

Lahti was able to parlay her supporting actress nom into, (in my opinion), 2 great movies: Running on Empty and Housekeeping. Anyone curious about her who hasn't seen those two films, should.

She was also great in a somewhat mediocre movie starring Mary Tyler Moore called Just Between Friends. Lahti had a habit of stealing movies away from leading ladies.

by Anonymousreply 120December 29, 2020 8:00 PM

Housekeeping was supposed to be a big Oscar pushed film but the head of the studio changed and the new one just dumped his predecessor's films. Lahti was thought to be a potential Best Actress candidate but the film got no advertising support.

Interestingly Diane Keaton had the role first and quit.

Lahti's career was odd. She had the Mary Tyler Moore movie where she was considered the best performance in it, then two acclaimed performances in Housekeeping and Running on Empty and then stuff just seemed to slow down and she went to TV.

by Anonymousreply 121December 30, 2020 6:22 AM

So now we hate Goldie? Swing Shift is long forgotten.

by Anonymousreply 122December 30, 2020 6:27 AM

I don't hate Goldie Hawn. Little girls don't become actresses so they can work their butts off and then after 40 become old, ugly and ignored. I understand the plastic surgery. Also, I think Goldie's something of a philanthropist, right?

I thought Swing Shift was fun but suffered from something, and that something might have been star producer-itis.

by Anonymousreply 123December 30, 2020 6:39 AM

This again?

Yes, the director's cut is better than the released version - but still ain't great.

by Anonymousreply 124December 30, 2020 6:40 AM

The whole thing is tedious including the controversy over a supposed lost masterpiece. It's not, and the director's cut is Meh! Typical story and characters. Nothing notable here except Russell's ass which looks cushier here than in Tango and Cash where it looked like a skinny white boy ass.

by Anonymousreply 125December 30, 2020 6:40 AM

I vote against the Director's Cut cuz the timecode blocks Ed's penis flash.

only reason to watch anyway

by Anonymousreply 126December 30, 2020 6:46 AM

There was talk ages ago about Ed Harris' extramarital activities...was it here? I'm just out of bed and haven't had my coffee. Too lazy to look.

by Anonymousreply 127December 30, 2020 2:34 PM

Ed Harris penis peek:

Offsite Link
by Anonymousreply 128December 30, 2020 3:31 PM

Ed > Sharon Stone

by Anonymousreply 129December 30, 2020 5:46 PM

Had they kept Russell's ass shot, it would have been a better movie. That thing looks like it should be bronzed and displayed in a museum somewhere. It's beautiful.

by Anonymousreply 130December 30, 2020 8:55 PM

Is Kurt Russell still a racist piece of shit?

by Anonymousreply 131December 30, 2020 9:27 PM

I knew he was a hunter, but not that he's a racist. Receipts?

by Anonymousreply 132December 30, 2020 10:59 PM

During WW2 before being put to work building aircraft large numbers of young girls were put in a classroom and told they will be given a 4 year college course in advanced electronic engineering in 2 weeks. (From someone who was there)

by Anonymousreply 133December 30, 2020 11:07 PM

The problem with the film (among many) was that it was advertised to be a Goldie goes to the factory and causes chaos like in Private Benjamin. It wasn't a slapstick comedy that the sold it as.

by Anonymousreply 134December 31, 2020 6:48 AM

Honestly r132 I remembered reading this piece of gossip on the DL in a celeb gossip thread. Since it's gossip shared years ago, I don't really have receipts. I just remembered it stuck with me because I was for some reason very disappointed to read that about him

by Anonymousreply 135December 31, 2020 3:28 PM

R135 I googled it and found nothing indicating that he's racist at all. The nearest I got was a Snopes entry that apparently there was some pro-cop, anti-BLM "poem" that was making the rounds and it was falsely attributed to Russell. Maybe that's what you're thinking of.

by Anonymousreply 136December 31, 2020 3:30 PM

R136 the PR machines can clean up your image from the net nowadays. But it was years ago before the BLM movement. I think it had to do with his using the N word liberally in social settings

by Anonymousreply 137December 31, 2020 3:36 PM

Kurt's a huge Republican. I don't know about Goldie, but she does seem at the very least to placate his political leanings.

I remember the whole 9/11 telethon controversy when Bill O Reilly tried to insinuate that the money being donated wasn't going to the proper places. Kurt and Goldie who did the telethon hightailed it over to O Reilly's show a day or two later and immediately distanced themselves from the whole affair, claiming they were unaware of what they were getting themselves into, and that they were not responsible for anything concerning the money being raised.

by Anonymousreply 138December 31, 2020 3:40 PM

The fact that he's a republican makes him more likely a bigot. Maybe Goldie feels differently but doesn't let politics get in the way of her relationship

by Anonymousreply 139December 31, 2020 3:46 PM

If so, I'm really disappointed in both of them. Gross.

by Anonymousreply 140December 31, 2020 4:13 PM

I remember Goldie was on the Oprah when a segment was aired regard an immigrant African woman was telling her story of leaving her destitute homeland for a better life in America and Goldie was crying and telling the woman (seated in the audience) how she was so happy she was here and hoped she would get to stay in the US. Maybe it was her finest acting work in a long time...?

by Anonymousreply 141December 31, 2020 4:52 PM

There was a blind item on AGC a few years ago saying that Kurt and Goldie had Kate Hudson stop dating A-Rod because they didn’t want mixed race grandchildren.

by Anonymousreply 142January 2, 2021 5:48 PM

Ed Harris was fine as fuck. He played an SOB in Sweet Dreams and wanted him to fuck me so bad in that film...just a hot, hairy little fucker.

by Anonymousreply 143January 2, 2021 6:09 PM

I am grateful this was shared and am curious if the directors cut will ever come out on DVD?

by Anonymousreply 144January 30, 2021 4:06 PM

R142 Or maybe they thought breeding with the nose-picking Dim Rod wouldn't end well!

by Anonymousreply 145February 15, 2021 6:52 PM

Ed Harris is so goddamn beautiful. Absolutely smoldering, pure sex. He’s also hot in Places In The Heart. But what isn’t he hot in? I’m so glad he isn’t afraid to show his dong. What a man.

[quote] Why is a work print in Pan and Scan ratio?

It’s in 4:3, which doesn’t mean that a pan-and-scan transfer was performed. It looks like it was shot open-matte and then later cropped to 1.85 or 2.35 or whatever widescreen ratio it was eventually released in. This is how a lot of films were shot. Often the director and cinematographer will shoot it in 4:3 but have markers on the viewfinder for 1.85 (or whatever) so they know how it’ll be framed later in widescreen when the prints are made.

A lot of movies were shot open matte, released to theaters in widescreen, and then released on VHS in their original open matte framing, often revealing things that weren’t supposed to be seen by audiences. Some notable examples include Pee Wee’s Big Adventure, Ghost Story, and The Exorcist. But there are countless others.

Exceptions to the open-matte filming include movies that were shot with anamorphic lenses. In those cases, the framing is a fixed widescreen ratio (Halloween is one example). Such movies would definitely require a pan-and-scan process for release to home video back in the pre-widescreen-TV age, where the 35mm print would have to be scanned so that the relevant action on screen could be seen by viewers in the 4:3 format. It didn’t always work, of course, because directors rightfully made full use of the widescreen framing and included information all across the frame. A good example is Brian De Palma and Dressed To Kill: on the pan-and-scan VHS releases, there are certain shots where the audience is meant to notice people and things on the far end of the frame, but the pan-and-scan transfer just couldn’t move fast enough from left to right to show it, so they instead went with one end of the frame and ignored the other.

by Anonymousreply 146February 15, 2021 7:22 PM

Christine played the same sassy, independent working hotel in all her films.

by Anonymousreply 147February 16, 2021 11:09 AM

**working girl

by Anonymousreply 148February 16, 2021 11:10 AM

So r145. Goldie and Kurt allegedly don’t bathe regularly...bet that Kate has inherited their unhygienic habits.

by Anonymousreply 149February 16, 2021 3:26 PM

R149 But do they pick their noses in public and have an IQ under 100?

by Anonymousreply 150February 16, 2021 6:25 PM

Wouldn’t want to get close enough to them to find out.

by Anonymousreply 151February 16, 2021 6:45 PM

R151 I did at the Russian Tea Room in NYC in the 70s and didn't notice odor or an unkempt appearance. They both looked good and clean.

by Anonymousreply 152February 16, 2021 8:38 PM

Much ado about nothing. It's Rosie the Riveter crossed with New York, New York. The characters and situations are shopworn and I don't care who winds up with who or what ultimately happens. Not compelling.

by Anonymousreply 153February 19, 2021 12:57 AM

Goldie couldn't get out of her own way as an actress. She made a string of really bad movies in the '80s. Swing Shift is probably the best and it's a failure despite Christine Lahti and Kurt Russell.

by Anonymousreply 154October 9, 2021 7:19 AM
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