ELECTION 2020 Part 7

Arizona now flipping to Trump.

Fuck Latinos. Homophobic religious freaks. Team ICE!

Previous thread.

R1, FUCK!!!!

So no Arizona?

Cheating on all levels in this election. Hillary was correct! Deplorables infest this county.

Biden is now leading Michigan by nearly 50k votes.

wait what the fuck happened in Arizona

If he loses Arizona he will need PA or it's curtains.

Reid Epstein, in Madison, Wis. 15m ago

The margin needs to be less than 1 percent for a recount in Wisconsin. Trump will have to pay about $3 million for it unless the margin is less than one quarter of 1 percent. See Wisconsin results ›

so basically nothing flipped except the district in Nebraska?

WI flipped, R11. AZ looks like it's flipped.

R12 what about the update saying Arizona won't flip?

Have you been paying attention r11?

Biden flipped Arizona, NE-02, Wisconsin and Michigan. He is winning dear.

WTF is Data Orbital and who do they “work” for?

I think "Latino" vote needs to be disbanded. Latino is not a race. There are Latinos who are white, black, Asian, Amerindian, mixed etc

it seems the majority of white Latinos vote with other whites to discriminate against non-whites

AZ looking good!

So depressing thinking about the next two years. Biden won’t be able to do shit. His cabinet won’t even be confirmed.

Data Orbital?

R14 OK someone just posted a link saying AZ was going to Trump. I didn't click on it hopefully that was wrong information

I don’t think AZ is going to Trump.

There is no update r13. Arizona has been called for Biden by AP and Fox. Other networks are being more patient, but there is no reason to think AP is wrong.

So why is info about Arizona coming in saying different?

It’s official. The cunt is going back to the senate.

r20 it's a troll

[quote]His cabinet won’t even be confirmed.

Never stopped 46-1.

R18 then his admin can just operate with all "acting" roles like Trump has done for many of his positions

R18 - then Biden can pull the same stunt that Trump has pulled - put in an Acting Secretary of whatever Department.

R24, WHAT A DISASTER!!!!

so no senate Dems will join Biden's admin because the senate margins are too slim.

R18 Some reality. Having Biden appointees leading all departments in the Executive Branch is HUGE>

Having Donald Trump on TV only, not in the White House is HUGE.

There's a lot to be disappointed with, but there is sure as hell a lot to be happy about.

Assuming Wisconsin is a win, AZ, NV, and MI would take him to 271, it looks like.

Sara Gideon was a dud. I want a refund for my donation. What did that bitch do with my money?

A Biden DOJ is a very big deal. That's power.

Good one!^^. Give Pigs some of their own medicine

I wonder why Maine went for Biden and Collins

the only memorable times Collins went against the repub establishment were her votes against repealing AFA and against confirming Coney Barrett

Susan Collins has won re-election

I can’t believe we didn’t win the Senate. That’s worst than not winning the Presidency, IMO.

Never forget: a majority of Mainers voted for Paul LePage, a disgusting porcine proto-Deplorable.

So Sara Gideon had a long shot, at best.

Maine and Iowa white trash old people states

Biden can be President without PA.

That was the narrative before the election. Turned out to be true.

Just not having the satisfaction of a landslide is hard to stomach, and not having the Senate hurts.

Sara Gideon managed to lose in Maine while joe Biden won. What the fuck? She must have been an awful candidate

If Biden wins, as expected, is the Senate still lost? Because I’m seeing 4847 for the thugs. But Harris takes it to a tie. And then isn’t there yet hope of one of the Georgia runoff’s?

Something that is going on remarked on is how strong Minnesota switched to blue. Clinton barely won Minnesota by 1.5pts, Biden dominated by 7 points.

Unremarked*

Who keeps stating DEms have lost the Senate? Cut it out!

Self-Correction: a plurality of Mainers voted for Le Page (an almost majority the second time).

[quote] I can’t believe we didn’t win the Senate. That’s worst than not winning the Presidency, IMO.

I don't know about that. I hate it when people always bring up Trump, apropos of nothing, but he's been a real downer. He's depressing to think about. It's like a black cloud.

I hate to break it to you but we are looking at the GOP keeping control of the Senate r46.

R44 MN has always had the highest voter turnout in the nation. I'm a little surprised at how much considering I thought BLM might turn off the suburbs.

The polls were a failure in these state races. Across the board. Democrats got too cocky.

Assuming Democrats have lost the Senate, the Republicans will have subpoena power in that chamber. Expect nonstop bullshit investigations of Biden starting Day 1.

Link please on the concession.

R44 and NH, which Hillz won by .3 percent. Called very quickly last night .

[quote]o, it isn't. If McCain were still alive, this would be his year to run for reelection if he'd wanted to. This was the last year of his term.

It is. The AZ election is a special election.

AP has not called the Senate races in MI, ME, GA (both), NC, or AK.

r34 This. I am so disappointed about the Senate if we end up losing, but if Joe wins we get rid of Trump and Barr. That at least saves the republic for four years. Getting rid of Trump was my #1 goal, because that gets rid of both he and his henchman. That's huge.

Last year, in two different Lyft rides, the drivers, a black woman and a black man, didn't believe voter suppression is real. This was in LA.

I think major work needs to be put into educating people about voter suppression. Make it a huge issue for black people, like police violence. Add it to biopics and black TV shows. Add it to comedy acts, have pop artists sing about it. Cynically, you could say: "Make it something they can get angry over/resent/gripe about so they'll direct their attention and efforts to 'showing the man who's boss' in every future election."

"Gideon concedes" only pulls up some BS Twitter account. I can't believe they wouldn't be breaking it.

peters back in the game

According to MSNBC, there are 7 uncalled races.

Why is Gideon conceding?

Conceding is in the past. New game, new rules.

They have lost the senate. They have no chance at a majority. If Gary peters loses, which looks likely, they will have better exactly 0 seats.

OMG, Peters is pulling ahead in MI!!!!! Please GOD, save him. It's a tie now.

Which means goodbye meaningful climate change legislation, goodbye meaningful health care legislation (especially if the ACA is overturned), goodbye legislative recourse if Roe v. Wade and Obergefell are overturned or badly weakened.

McConnell's entire M.O. is to do everything he can to prevent any major legislative win for the Democrats, even if that win is good for the American people.

CNN is reporting the Senate is still up in the air

We aren't taking about PA, but worth pointing out that Dems are confident and expect the final count to be a Biden win by 100k votes.

Here's the main problem:

Repugs treat voters like they are fucking morons.

Dems treat voters like they are smart.

America is, at least, 75% moron. Dems need to learn it and start acting accordingly.

R62, I agree. Gideon needs to sue. Say there's fraud. Smear the cunt as badly as she smeared Gideon on TV.

So is that AZ Twitter a troll site? It’s bullshit right?

GIdeon back in the game now due to lack of 50% by Collins per CNN

R44, Ilhan Omar did a huge GOTV effort in the past week+. She didn't need it, she was heavily favored to win (despite the GOP attacks and pouring money into her district). It mostly helped Biden.

What's really odd is Biden winning ME but Collins holding onto her seat. Her numbers tanked after she claimed McConnell "tricked:" her on the tax cut, then plummeted after the Kavanaugh mess. If she really won it, something's wrong there.

[quote]Assuming Democrats have lost the Senate, the Republicans will have subpoena power in that chamber.

My understanding is that ignoring subpoenas has become a popular and fashionable pastime in the Beltway.

she said Collins told her. I call BS. she has to have 50%

If she's back in it why is she conceding?

R71 Is Susan starting to get concerned again?

If I heard correctly, MSNBC said EIGHTY (could've been 18) per cent of mail in postal offices yesterday in Georgia has not been delivered. Nobody knows how many mail-in ballots are there.

Gideon never conceded. FUCK people. don't get your news from twitter.

R68 should be the game plan. Also no more pandering to youth votes with the climate change and trans shot that turns moderates off. Progressives and youth will NEVER show up.

Link to Gideon conceding?

I want to thank greedy DL for keeping so many of us who are not paid members from participating on Election Day. Real classy DL. Why do I have the feeling the owners of this website are GOP and were for Trump and McConnell. Democrats would let the people have their say, all the people.

We're not vicious enough. we don't lie enough about our enemies. We don't smear them enough. We don't investigate them enough.

Just make shit up: destroy the motherfuckers. Lindsey, we could have done a Candace Owens-Andrew Gillam job on the cunt. Just hire some hot hooker and record it.

But no, because we're ethical? Fuck that.

Lol@ R81

I will fucking flood the next person who uses twitter as a source with ransomware. So make fucking backups before you pull that shit again.

So sad

WaPo's Josh Dawsey:

In private call with supporters, top Trump campaign officials promise extensive legal challenges -- particularly in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. They also vow to watch Philly closely.

RNC chairwoman Ronna McDaniel asks for donations because she says they will be sending teams across the country for ballot fights, a "full court press of our legal strategy."

Peters is only 0.2% behind. If Trump is supposed to pick up votes there, why wouldn't he?

Guys you will be fine. Remember what I said, Joe will be the Victor! The world is with you

R81, Primetime was probably in place to keep an onslaught of trolls from flooding the site with their shenanigans.

You know, we could stop with so much of this shit if we just got rid of the electoral college. It would change everything for the better.

No more manipulating swing states, no more of this handwringing of which way each state will go.

It's a fucked up system that needs to be ditched. We could all be toasting right now.

What's happening with Arizona? Does Biden still have it?

Can't get rid of it unilaterally, R90.

Stop being such a fuckhead, R84. Twitter is a perfectly good source of information if the account is a real one.

You or someone like you was even screaming about someone linking to the official Twitter of the PA governor last night, because it was "just Twitter." That's ridiculous.

Are Penn and Nevada on a go-slow? Their percentages counted haven't updated in hours.

I'm disappointed that Lindsey Graham won. I am imagining a bitter, angry Trump in February, sitting at home in Florida watching his old buddies Mitch and Lindsey carrying on without him, not seeming to miss him that much. Maybe he'll be jealous enough that he spills what he knows about Lindsey.

Do you think he'll try to run again in 2024?

R90, the EC has been analyzed to death this election season. It's impossible to eliminate.

R90

R87 here ... I said that backwards. If Biden is getting more votes in MI, then so should Peters.

No one knows who Data Orbital is or what their data is from. They claim that AZ is different in that early votes favor Trump, but there's nothing to indicate WHY they think that. No one else said so, the best I can tell.

AP hasn't rescinded their call for Arizona, neither has Fox.

R90. Also, check out Jesse Wegman's new book about it. Will link to it.

It seems true about Collins. Link from the ABC affiliate:

Of course it's dark, silly. Otherwise we wouldn't see the disco ball.

R90, this is the hot book right now - Jesse Wegman.

It wasn't some Twitter rando reporting Gideon conceded, it was a reporter from the LA Times who was quoting Collins herself.

R87, James is gaining in popularity across the board. He's African American, he's young. a veteran, and he's a Christian. He tics a lot of boxes, so we won't be seeing the last of him for many years, whether he wins or loses.

Yeah, ABC confirmed Gideon conceded.

Joe Biden’s Cabinet will be confirmed. And even if it wasn’t then Biden can appoint anyone on interim basis. But only for a short amount of time before they have to be confirmed. So the Republicans would have to eventually confirm.

Don’t be so sure that Biden won’t be able to get anything done. It works both ways because McConnell won’t be able to pass any of his corporate welfare Socialism to his oligarchy cronies without Biden’s signature.

Arizona's official count still has Biden up by quite a bit.

Is Data Orbital a misinformation campaign? What's going on with them?

The funniest thing about John James is what's going to happen when all those voters in Oakland County wake up to the fact that they actually voted for a black guy.

Trump will steal the election.

Why aren't we making our own disinformation? Why aren't we making our own deepfakes? Fucking destroy them. Why can't we get a foreign power to help us, like Russia helps the GOP? Why the fuck now? Fucking win, motherfuckers!

Nevada is waiting on mail-in ballots. It could be up to a week, but there's no reason to believe that the ballots will break any differently than the current vote.

AZ is fine.

Peters is just 10,000 votes back in MI right now.

Biden is slowly but steadily closing the gap in PA. He was down 700,000 last night, but only about 450,000 now.

I really want Georgia.

R104, I think that troll knows it's not just a Twitter rando, he's either trolling or a crank who really thinks everything on Twitter is fake.

[quote] A female friend related this to me in 2016: the day after the election one of her AA male colleagues came up to her and whispered to her, "I didn't realize they hated you more than they hated me."

Every woman knew that.

I saw some people last night saying 'I guess latino men are also prone to toxic masculinity' You guess? Prone? Straight men will always bond through their shared fear and loathing of women (while also being bitter women are not offering pussy to them), and their homophobia. Not sure how people could only be learning this in 2020. 'Cool black dude' is less threatening to white guys and swaggering white men earn points with black and latino men.

Thank goodness primetime was in place to keep out some of the riffraff. Pay up you cheap whores.

Watch out for bullshit media narratives, especially:

-Post-mortems about how various groups voted BEFORE THE TOTALS ARE IN (they do this every election and they always make huge mistakes that never get corrected)

-Concern trolling about how Biden and other Dems didn't win "enough" or lost despite winning. Bush II and Trump won by true razor-thin margins, Biden is on track to outperforming them, but he will never get the "mandate" treatment they got.

-Analysis that conveniently skips right over the gutting of the VRA, vote suppression, signs of interference, USPS and other ratfuckery and goes right to "wow, Trump is so loved!"

-Taking Trump's challenges at face-value no matter how legally unsound or otherwise ridiculous.

I went to sleep last night with everybody saying this is looking a lot like 2016. So dejected that we are losing and can't sleep. Had to take Ambien. Wako up this morning and learned Biden has a chance of winning felt all so surreal. Still is.

Peters is pulling ahead now, just checked the NYT report

[quote]Why aren't we making our own deepfakes?

[quote] Joe Biden’s Cabinet will be confirmed. And even if it wasn’t then Biden can appoint anyone on interim basis. But only for a short amount of time before they have to be confirmed. So the Republicans would have to eventually confirm.

Aren't there a bunch of Trump admin cabinet members who are "acting" department heads, never having gone through the advice-and-consent process in the Senate?

If Trump can do it, so can Biden. Fuck confirmation.

So why doesn’t Biden’s team challenge GA, NC, and FL? Give it right back!

[quote] Nevada is waiting on mail-in ballots. It could be up to a week, but there's no reason to believe that the ballots will break any differently than the current vote.

I hope you're right. What are you basing this statement on?

Not only will Biden be president, but his Justice Department and the SDNY can prosecute Trump and his fucking crime family and his fucking children.

Those project Lincoln guys should be fleeing the country out of embarrassment.

The news channels know witch uncounted precincts lean red or blue. They are being super cautious about calling it for Biden. Mostly major cities are still counted, but those precincts are heavy blue. Don't know why they don't want to call it. Makes me think their being greedy pigs running these commercials non stop.

How's Voice of the Night?

I'm also pissed that nasty, inept toad Lindsey got in again.

Can we get Angela Merkel and pocket gay Macron to tweet Congrats to Biden?

When will Trump Tower be repossessed?

[quote]witch uncounted precincts

UNFAIR! WE HAVE BEEN ROBBED!

r121 Neither GA nor NC has been called yet.

R81, $1.99 is why you can’t have nice things.

[quote]I really want Georgia.

Hi, Georgia!

Just like in 2018, people were premature in calling the night based on initial disappointments in Florida and the south.

Now that Trump will be leaving the White House, Lindsay doesn’t have any cover and maybe will find out exactly what the blackmail was about?

There's got to be a vicious motherfucker who can lead the party and run for the Dem nomination in 2024. Mayor Pete is too ethical.

Who's the most vicious motherfucker? Who's our Tom Cotton, Josh Hawley, etc.?

Biden’s utter collapse with Hispanics is the story of the election. Just complete and total failure

Yep, R120, if Mitch doesn't want to confirm the nominee, Biden appoints 'acting' heads. It's on Mitch.

For r117*

I said this 4 years ago but liberals need to move out of their clusters and take over battleground states. It's starting to happen with Cali spillover into Arizona

if we could just take 200,000 diehard liberals from Cali, Mass and NY and move them to North Carolina and Georgia we'd own the country

Maine has a rank/order system. Colllins is slightly under 50% right now, and could face a run-off.

[quote]The funniest thing about John James is what's going to happen when all those voters in Oakland County wake up to the fact that they actually voted for a black guy.

You haven’t seen him in a Speedo.

I was on in the overnight hours, R134, it was mostly trolls and not people just calling things prematurely.

keep an eye on Maine

[Quote] it was mostly trolls

who pay to post here...

Maine just called for Biden according to MSNBC.

just heard on MSNBC Gideon confirms she conceded

[quote]Now that Trump will be leaving the White House, Lindsay doesn’t have any cover and maybe will find out exactly what the blackmail was about?

It still astonishes me that people here think Graham is a principled man whose allegiance could only be swayed by the threat of a deep, dark secret.

He's a craven politician, going whichever way the wind blows is practically in his job description.

Yeah, getting rid of the EC would take a constitutional amendment I think. That would be a shit show bigger than this, because it would need 2/3 of the statyes to pass.

If your bitching about primetime, you really shouldn't be here. You should be on indeed cause your cheap ass needs some income. And don't tell me it is the principle. Either your cheap, of your wife goes over your credit card statements.

sad that repubs gained House seats too

No, R145, trolls AFTER Primetime was turned off, which I thought was clear.

What happens to Gideon's concession if suddenly Collins goes under 50%?

[quote]So much for subscribers keeping out the riffraff.

PAYING riffraff is not riffraff you fucking deadbeat r145.

Cough it up or suck it up worm.

Dems gained seats in the House.

I've said this for a while but I always wonder how accurate can polls be when they have such small numbers? How can you get a real feel for a state if your sample size is 400 on the low end and only1200 on the high end?

Vaughn Hillyard of NBC news says there are about 440k outstanding ballots in Arizona and they expect to find more on top of that, and Trump would have to win those remaining ballots by 61% to win AZ.

It doesn't look like the data outfit claiming AZ is going to go Trump has their numbers right.

No. These threads were full of concern trolls while Primetime was ON. I read along. And I wasn't frustrated that I couldn't post. I'm pointing out the bullshit - some of the stupidest posts occur on this site DURING Primetime.

Maine was called for Biden ages ago, but Trump has now won ME-2.

[quote]Who's the most vicious motherfucker? Who's our Tom Cotton, Josh Hawley, etc.?

Sheldon Whitehouse was pretty vicious at the Barrett confirmation.

Also, I already had R1 blocked, fwiw.

The Electoral College can be curtailed through the NPVIC proposal. Look it up - it's the ONLY chance for a true democratic system.

lmao Sherrod Brown just called Susan Collins "agile"

[quote] Last year, in two different Lyft rides, the drivers, a black woman and a black man, didn't believe voter suppression is real. This was in LA. I think major work needs to be put into educating people about voter suppression. Make it a huge issue for black people, like police violence.

You're so condescending. I guarantee you that those drivers are more concerned with just plain violence in the general population than from the police. They are the more likely potential victims of violent crime. And they know that. They need and want the police.

You can't fight voter suppression by more votes. You have to fight it by rooting it out legally and strategically.

R157, I was just responding to the guy who quoted me specifically, who made it sound like I was talking about Primetime during the overnight hours. We weren't on Primetime in the overnight hours.

just a question did the Democratic House and Senate during Obama's first 2 years ever consider DC and PR for statehood? Or those were never discussed? We might be in a different place now if those moves had been made

[quote]Dems gained seats in the House.

According to AP, as of right now they have LOST five seats in the House.

all the dumbass whitey Trump voters can enjoy a miserable holiday season with coronavirus still spiking and the economy still in the gutter.

[quote]No. These threads were full of concern trolls while Primetime was ON. I read along. And I wasn't frustrated that I couldn't post. I'm pointing out the bullshit - some of the stupidest posts occur on this site DURING Primetime.

Same here. Why put it on Primetime when all we wanna do is vent.

Please, like r166, cite your source when making claims. It's irritating and potentially misleading otherwise.

Fuck off R84. If it's valid on Twitter, it should show up in the MSM within minutes, Whoever posted the Gideon thing was just excited about being "first with" and freaked some people out. Not me, but it was a waste of bandwidth.

You've got mail.

There should be a bipartisan revolution in your country about the amount of ad breaks you have on TV. It's actually revolting.

R152, you just rescind your concession. It's not a contract.

Biden has clenched AZ, according to Associated Press. MI, WI, NV are blue for now, but could still swing.

r169 "According to AP" isn't enough of a citation? OK, here.

The Electoral College only makes sense if there were three (or more) strong candidates, and none of them garnered more that 50% of the vote (last example 1992). I'm thinking the Founding Fathers never imagined this ugly two-party, red-state, blue-state crap. Popular vote should rule in a democracy, but one can imagination a scenario where something else might have to kick in to decide an election. .

Dems aren't leaving California because they want to expand the electoral map. They're moving because it's too expensive to live there now. You're either really really rich, or dirt poor.

That's the new talking point in potential future battleground states. They're trying to scare their states from turning blue. Warning that California is a blue state and its leaders have ruined their constituents lives, so they're leaving California and moving to other states. And if left unchecked, those new people/voters will turn those states into a blue, socialist mess like California.

I have tricks in Texas who tell me things.

but do we really think Gideon would have conceded if her team thought there was a chance Collins could go under 50% and that Gideon could win by ranked choice? I'm sure they took that into account

FUCK

Why the fuck would she do that?

[quote] You have to fight it by rooting it out legally and strategically.

R163, when the courts are controlled by the GOP? And what does "strategically" mean, really?

No, you build up resentment so severely that they actually show up to vote. Then you take control of state houses and governorship, gerrymander, and expand voting to the maximum extent possible.

Anderson has undoubtedly never experienced this before.

The CA ballot proposition that lets oldsters like me move and keep their property tax base seems to be winning and will likely cause me to move soon ... but within California.

[quote]And if left unchecked, those new people/voters will turn those states into a blue, socialist mess like California. I have tricks in Texas who tell me things.

Doubtful, but ok. The one thing they can't tell you is how to be intelligent.

R173, WI isn't going to swing. All but 300 votes have been counted and Biden is up 20,000.

so white Latinos like that Trump insults non-white Latinos and turned out for him in Miami

RT is mad, bro.

R180 what was the tweet it was deleted.

R140, liberals have moved into VA, changing that state blue. Eventually, NC and FL will follow

Trump transcends polls. On 2018 they were very accurate. People are just embarrassed to admit they like him and the chaos he brings.

HERE IS SARA GIDEON HERSELF CONCEDING. I'm sorry to report that she posted it on Twitter. Should we wait until she personally calls each member of this thread? Or is this good enough?

AP put ME in the red column for the Senate; they how have it at 47-48, with five races still undecided (both GA, NC, MI, and AK.

What's up with Maine? What kind of hold does Susan Collins have on Mainers? Sara Gideon seemed like a decent candidate that would have probably represented her state well. What makes Maine an outlier in the Northeast, even more than New Hampshire?

What about the ballots that the post office didn’t deliver?

[quote]Should we wait until she personally calls each member of this thread? Or is this good enough?

Kindly inform her I will be free for her call in about twenty (20) minutes.

Sorry, R186. He said “Clitter.”

R191 old white provincial fucks who are bitter that no one cares about them and view them as the backwater fucks they are.

Latino groups do have issues with one another. Some Latinos consider themselves white, some have short memories and want to shut the borders after themselves. However, I think Latinos like Cubans and Venezuelans just like Trump a lot more than they dislike other Latinos.

What's especially galling about Collins is that she originally ran on term limits and said she'd quit after two terms. I wouldn't even vote for someone in the primaries who went back on that kind of a pledge.

We need the late-night comedians et al out mocking Trump for whining about the vote count. Laugh at him, make him small and pathetic. Like IT: mock him, belittle him, show him to be a whining weak cunt.

Americans are so fucking stupid. Even in the blue states. Voters in Illinois rejected a graduated income tax amendment which would have helped the state balance its books by forcing richer people to pay a higher income tax rate instead of keeping the flat tax they have now where billionaires pay the same rate as teachers. And California embraced Prop 22 pushed by Silicon Valley so Uber and Lyft can keep treating their employees like shit.

Let the court battles commence

According to MSNBC, Dems are at 227 and Pigs at 208.

OK so Mitch keeps the Senate. SCOTUS overturns ACA. House votes a new Healthcare bill. Senate says 'Nyet'.

People don't like when they lose something they have gotten used to.

CNN calls WI for Biden.

R201, pigs are smart and empathetic animals. The GOP are just cunts.

[quote]And California embraced Prop 22 pushed by Silicon Valley so Uber and Lyft can keep treating their employees like shit.

I believe you meanour "independent contractors."

R203 WOWOWOWOW!

WI is blue, motherfuckers!

I wondered that too R191; after Kavanaugh, everyone seemed to be done with her. And she just seemed like sour old Lady G in drag next to Smiley Sara. I really thought Sara had it in the bag

Hopefully the 1st of 2 runoffs

Per ABC, Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs has now had to debunk Sharpiegate, announcing that ballots were not being invalidated because people were tricked into using Sharpies instead of the right kind of pen to fill out ballots.

[Quote] What's up with Maine? What kind of hold does Susan Collins have on Mainers?

That doesn't concern you.

He’s suing to stop counting in MI

R197, Graham said/did the same thing.

I seriously think something is up with their wins. I could see either of them narrowly winning, but not decisively. Dems should not just let these go.

Re R198, please tweet SNL, Colbert, Patton Oswalt, Seth, etc. and get them to mock the motherfucker.

Make him small and he crumbles.

R211, he tried that in NV yesterday.

The narrative should be the Trump campaign is *desperate.* Instead, we'll be deluged with how Biden didn't win enough.

[quote] Biden has clenched AZ, according to Associated Press.

Well, we can either pull over here at the side of the road or wait till we find a bathroom.

TX still a Dem mirage and no hope for fixing redistricting. GOP retains control of the State House.

The stock market is up 600+ as a Biden win looks more certain. That really has to chap Trump's ass.

[quote] I'm thinking the Founding Fathers never imagined this ugly two-party, red-state, blue-state crap.

The founding fathers thought of everything. The founding fathers were perfect. If I could I would marry the founding fathers. Well, just one at a time. Anything else would be sinful.

if Trump loses, lawd forbid, I'll need a new daddy. What do you think about this gentleman?

Marry me NOW r215

R199: We don't want no tax on our hard-earned winnings if and when the Good Lord God lets us win the Powerball. Taxing us winners is just givin' handouts to "those people," (in Chicago), loosers who don't want to improve theirselves, if you know whom I mean.

Its about time people started calling Wisconsin. The votes have been in.

CNN calls Wisconsin for Biden.

How much will Melly get in the divorce?

Getting nervous as Nevada and Wisconsin are up a little for Trump. Everybody pray.

She'd better get in line.

Jesus go to CNN's site. BIDEN WINS WISCONSIN in the biggest fucking font lol.

R208, Warnock has his work cut out for him since Loeffler won't have Jones siphoning off votes from her.

Yes, Janie, pray very hard!

AP 238-214. Senate +1 House -5

Does Trump realize Biden is up by a nice margin in Michigan?

I say let's do what Trump wants and stop counting....

They need to call fucking AZ.

Any new hotties get elected to the house or senate?

20% of black men voted for trump. Guess they like getting shot by police

[quote]They need to call fucking AZ.

AZ was called HOURS ago.

And how many white men voted for Trump?

From now till Christmas:

Election lawsuits

Judge confirmations in the Senate

No stimulus

DoJ investigates the Bidens

[quote]Any new hotties get elected to the house or senate?

No, but this hottie got re-elected.

Even if trump loses, trumpism won last night. Any hope the GOP would return to “normal” was sqwashed last night. This is America.

[quote] What's up with Maine? What kind of hold does Susan Collins have on Mainers?

It's a common phenom. States like to hold on to their old-time, long-serving dinosaurs in the senate, because it gives them a sense that they have a position of power.

Biden should go to war with Cuba around the 2022 midterms. He won't because he's honorable, but I'd totally do that. Win the FL seats.

Are there any good-looking white male candidates with yellow skin?

R225 quit your trolling. Wisconsin is done counting and has already been called for Biden.

Las Vegas { Clark County } is 73% counted. Joes numbers will go up.

Nevada is giving me panic attacks.

Collins get 50%?

We don't have the racial and other breakdown of voters yet. FFS, USPS is still sitting on mail ballots!

This is the first year exit polling is trying to incorporate a massive mail/absentee vote increase, combined with an overall massive GOTV effort. We won't have accurate demographic numbers for days, possibly weeks.

R240, Elder gays will remember Margaret Chase Smith.

Wasserman thinks Pennsylvania looks like it will go to

To my eye, Biden is likely hitting the targets he needs in PA counties to be on track to finish ahead. And recounts don't typically overturn the margins we're likely to see for him in MI/WI.

If Biden does prevail in MI/PA/WI, then AZ/GA/NV wouldn't matter to the outcome.

AP finally called WI for Biden. Now 248-214. They have yet to call NV, AK, MI, PA, NC, or GA.

R239, you're right, but that's valuable data. We know what they are, have no more illusions, and can either work to crush them, co-opt them, or cater to them.

With accurate data, you can make some real choices.

It's kind of unbelievable that in the election threads on DL when the fate of american democracy is hanging in the balance during a deadly, mismanaged pandemic...

every 12 posts or so, it's just someone concerned with sharing information about which reporter/politician gives them boners. Or asking if there are any new ones that are boner-worthy.

Oh, gay men... there are no words.

Even if trump loses, trumpism won last night. Any hope the GOP would return to “normal” was sqwashed last night. This is America.

Agreed; even out of power, he & his loathsome children will own the role of "king maker" for Dump 2.0

North Dakota: Trump vote, 65%. (Third highest in nation, after WY and OK)

Average daily COVID-19 infections (per 100K): 159. (Highest in Nation)

"What's up with Maine? What kind of hold does Susan Collins have on Mainers?"

They have a long, sentimental attachment to her late-night cabaret show, in which she shoots salmon out of her pussy.

At least Arizona approved recreational marijuana.

I hope all trump voters die from covid

Re R241, that's the problem with Dems: they don't want to seize power. They don't want to make moves to dominate. They have to change.

Susan Collins looks like a persnickety librarian who Disapproves of Things. This is the Maine character in a nutshell, regardless of politics.

Michigan should be ready to call in the new few hours.

R224, Will Guilfoyle hang in until January or leave Donnie, Jr. sooner?

Can Biden get to 270 today? (Can’t take much more.)

When it's all over, I'm curious to know how many people voted third party or wrote in a candidate of their own choosing.

By the way, in the midst of election drama, this happened. When's the last time you heard any major press about it?

R255, lmao. Damn you.

[quote]No more drives to Blythe

If only.

We will get an Arizona vote update at 9pm EST.

[Quote] Any new hotties get elected to the house or senate?

This hottie from 2018 may lose his seat in the House. He trails by ~38k votes with 88% of the votes in.

People have been saying for ages that the Dems should learn to message and avoid label traps. Like "packing the court".

How hard is to realize that 'packing' is an attack label of the right wing? And they shouldn't use it in statements?

Joe and Chuck, when a reporter asks you about packing the court, you never repeat the word. - or at the very least you stick it back on the Rethugs. Use your own PR-friendly label, if needs be. Enforce same discipline in the Dem caucus and send word to state houses.

Or just hire top PR people and get them to work.

[Quote] every 12 posts or so, it's just someone concerned with sharing information about which reporter/politician gives them boners. Or asking if there are any new ones that are boner-worthy.

Those comments are few and far between. I enjoyed the concern over Joy Reid's blouse.

[quote] Here's where we stand:

[quote] Biden's path to victory: Any *2* of these states: NV (6 electoral votes), MI (16), PA (20), GA (16).

[quote] Dem "control" (50-50 w/ VP) of Senate: hold on to Peters in MI, and win *2* of these: Ossoff in GA, Warnock (runoff) in GA, Cunningham in NC, Gross in AK.

R264, if Biden wins we'll be back in the Accord right away.

That's fake news at R255: Salmon dies in Susie's pussy.

I’d like Jim Acosta inside me quite deeply.

The house was a bloodbath for democrats. They have the smallest majority in 30 years. Pelosi needs to explain herself.

Jim is looking a little jowly.

The Arizona Republic newspaper reports 600,000 ballots remain to be counted in Arizona, 450,000 of which are in Maricopa County, where Phoenix is located.

I believe Biden is ahead in Maricopa at this point by almost 6 points.

We won’t know anything from PA for at least a day. Lamb may hold on

[quote]Are there any good-looking white male candidates with yellow skin?

Close

[quote]North Dakota: Trump vote, 65%. (Third highest in nation, after WY and OK). Average daily COVID-19 infections (per 100K): 159. (Highest in Nation)

Honestly, I don't have any empathy left. Let them have the corona if they don't believe in it, and carry the consequences.

It looks damn good. I can't wait for January 20. Motherfuckers are going to PAY for the last four years.

Well now we know. We know what we are dealing with. We know now it wasn't just Hillary. We know Trumpism has overtaken the Republican party. We know who and what we will be up against in 2022/2024. The polls suggested that Trump would be ousted decisively and the Republican would cut ties with him and move back to the center. That influenced what we focused on and how we campaigned.

And one observation. I finally watch Trump's speech from last night with the audio on and he's gasping for air between sentences. WTF.

He's still suffering from the aftereffects of COVID, I'm sure. Maybe he's coming off the steroids finally and is having rebound inflammation.

[quote]every 12 posts or so, it's just someone concerned with sharing information about which reporter/politician gives them boners

Or getting on their high horse about something or other.

I'm hoping that all of these contesting of results sidetracks Dump up until January and Biden's inauguration.

Satire

I wouldn't put it past Dump to run for "re-election" in 2024.

ABC News has projected that Trump will win Maine’s final electoral vote, from the 2nd Congressional District, bringing his total to 214 to Biden’s 227. Maine’s other electoral votes — two based on the statewide vote and one based on the results in the 1st District, went to Biden. Trump also won Maine’s 2nd District in 2016.

We can only hope that once Trump is out of the picture, his influence over the Republican Party will also go away.

I have a feeling that many of the Trump voters were voting for the Party and not the candidate. I know some people who'd rather put up with 4 more years of Trump than to put a Democrat in the office.

Why would Don Lemon go on vacay now?

No way pence or dump run in 2024. It'll be a new rethug 2.0 candidate. Dump's bully energy, with Pence's calculated demeanor and evangelical background, and the establishment's policies. Extra scary if it's a woman. Rethugs will show up in droves for that.

I’m with you r280. Nasty as this is to say, let the winds of COVID blow thru those states. They’ve made their voting bed now suffer in it.

Btw, did Kanye get any votes?

I believe this: if Biden does win, and I think it looks like he probably will, I think he will govern well. And I think that will have the effect of muting the Trumpism in that part of the American people. it won’t save the day entirely but I do believe what trump normalized, Biden can go some way to reversing. More than we might think.

Don Lemon was on all night into the morning, he's not on vacation, he went home to sleep.

R280 Me too. I tend to be overly empathetic and a real bleeding heart but I'm afraid at a certain point people have to help themselves. I'm done worrying about covid actually. We're crushed it here, only 17 active cases and we never had a death. The cities I plan to visit in 2021 are blue cities that contained the virus. If the virus rips through the red states and takes out some of them as they go for 'herd immunity' so be it.

And I assume they will not want to take the vaccine from Joe if he wins. Fine. Don't care. Listen, life is pretty good in the blue states. I often weigh up moving back home to the UK but all in all life is good in a blue state and frankly it's much easier for me to avoid shitty people here than back home. I trust that people here will take the vaccine and continue to take precautions. If idiots in red states want to play roulette with a virus then let them.

What does Barr do election day? Consumes a big steak.

Eating comes first!

[quote]It looks damn good. I can't wait for January 20. Motherfuckers are going to PAY for the last four years.

That was my exact thought when Obama won, freeing us from the Bush years. But the first thing Obama did when taking office was to talk about working with the other side, bringing people together, blah, blah, blah. And we all know how that turned out. We need the Dems to release the fucking hounds on the remaining Republicans and make every last one of their days pure hell.

I hate Trump, r291, but he is one of a kind. The Republicans are going to find it very difficult to vomit up another candidate with his cult-like following.

Important point

[quote] I finally watch Trump's speech from last night with the audio on and he's gasping for air between sentences.

Die MFer, Die!

Who keeps saying that Arizona is going back to Trump. It hasn't moved in hours.

I'm really bummed about Collins, her opponent just conceded. There are a lot more votes to count.

A troll, r302.

R298, I hope Harris brings some of that bite, and influences Biden, or at least gets him to delegate that stuff to Harris. Harris can talk to the DOJ, etc. House investigations, etc.

Harris knows how "we" feel. The blood we want.

Democrats didn’t flip any state houses that they hoped to because of readistricing. A total failure across the board for democrats.

[quote] No way pence or dump run in 2024. It'll be a new rethug 2.0 candidate.

Dump could screw with them and start his own party.

[Quote] if it's a woman. Rethugs will show up in droves for that.

They will not.

Pence is done but I'll give him this, he stood up to Dump's BS last night and said we have to count the votes. So my opinion of hi has gone for a 0 to a 1 and I will rage read the books about his relationship with Trump.

Like Wasserman, Nate Cohn also thinks results in PA are pointing to Biden winning it.

Biden is running 8 points behind his polling average in the Midwest. Nate Cohn from the NYT has some explaining to do.

No I agree R307. Repubs will use a certain type of conservative woman in certain roles but a female Trump would never get the rabid male support. There's just no way these red state men and latinos are going to stand in the cold for 7 hours to chant for a woman and squeal and holler at her every lie they way they did for their 'alpha leader'

Since Obama got marriage equality passed, I assume Joe will now take it one step further and find me a husband.

Along the lines of R311, Latino males want a big, fat, obnoxious man as their GOP leader. Tom Cotton and Josh Hawley are slim nerds, even if the former served in the military.

CNN, if Biden keeps lead in AZ MI NV he will win

[quote]No way pence or dump run in 2024. It'll be a new rethug 2.0 candidate.

One of them could very well be dead by then.

I think he has a good chance at PA too r314

r315 = Covid-19

R304 I think that will happen. I read a long Politico article about Biden and Obama's relationship. Biden will excel at dealing with the Congress and McConnell. I really do think he can get 2-3 Repub votes on certain issues and I also think he will compromise. It may not be what people like us would want but right now I will take some compromise to get something done. Obama could never build a relationship with congress, he was too cold and aloof.

I do think Harris will be a great asset to Joe. She has skills and talents that he doesn't have and a 'bite' that he doesn't have. I know she's loathed here but I binged hours of interviews with her (thanks furlough) and I think it was the best pick.

[quote]Only way for America to heal now is for a 9/11 to happen every three days.

Let's start with Mar-A-Lago.

Arizona is looking bad

[quote]I wouldn't put it past Dump to run for "re-election" in 2024.

That's exactly what he'll do. He'll announce and go on "I was ROBBED" tour holding rallies in every hick town, and whip up the MAGAts to extreme. The media will wet themselves because they'll have daily Incessant rants and rage tweets to 'cover'. There'll be more murder plots against Dem governors, white power violence and extremism. Deplorables will eat it up.

r320 Arizona was called HOURS ago. Cut it out.

Block R320. Troll.

Giuliani is heading to PA to stop the Democratic fraud! LOL

Don't you fucking threaten us with a good time, you rat-faced son of a bitch.

Lame Distraction News of the Day: 🤡

Proud Boys leader, other Nazis claim they were stabbed by BLM members in early-morning altercation in DC

[Quote] Repubs will use a certain type of conservative woman in certain roles but a female Trump would never get the rabid male support. There's just no way these red state men and latinos are going to stand in the cold for 7 hours to chant for a woman and squeal and holler at her every lie they way they did for their 'alpha leader'

Exactly. They're fine with a "strong" woman BEHIND her man.

[Quote] Repubs will use a certain type of conservative woman in certain roles but a female Trump would never get the rabid male support. There's just no way these red state men and latinos are going to stand in the cold for 7 hours to chant for a woman and squeal and holler at her every lie they way they did for their 'alpha leader'

Exactly. They're fine with a "strong" woman BEHIND her man.

[quote]Dump could screw with them and start his own party.

You mean shart his own party.

Biden got more votes than any presidential candidate in US history. That's huge! Who would have thought that Biden would get more votes than Obama, Reagan, or Clinton? He just defeated an incumbent president and got the most votes in history. If that isn't a mandate, then I don't know what is.

We were never going to win the Senate, despite what the pollsters and pundits were predicting. Do you realize how hard it is to defeat an incumbent senator, especially in a red state? It's nearly impossible.

R254 In North Dakota, they even elect dead COVID reps.

r322, some data outfit is claiming that the votes that are left to count in AZ are going to go 61% or more for Trump, therefore he's probably won.

The data doesn't seem to support that. Actually, the last time I went out to the Data Orbital Twitter, they had deleted some of their tweets about the AZ uncounted ballots, so I don't think even THEY are sure of their prediction anymore.

AZ is going to go Biden, but the reason people are saying it looks bad is because of this Data Orbital place and their weird prediction.

[quote]Giuliani is heading to PA to stop the Democratic fraud! LAUGH AT LOUD

Will he be searching for fraudulent ballots in his pants?

I hope he does actually and takes all the loons and Q Anons and proud boys etc.. with him. They would split the R vote which would be a gift to us.

I can’t wait for all those Miami Cubans to lose their healthcare in June. It’s what they deserve

I love you long time r332

Here's an idea: if you never heard of a site (say. . .Data Orbital) before today, let's try not using them as a source of information.

Looks like it will be Biden with a small House majority, and a rethug senate. Not perfect, but I'll take it.

....dump will be gone soon. I my actually cry. Dump will be gone- we just have to be patient.

I dunno why you changed my "LOL" to "LAUGH AT LOUD" R332, but.. okay. Enjoy.

Basically the counts will be finished by tonight, apart from PA?

I am disgusted that so many Americans have voted for Trump. WTF is wrong with them? Seriously wondering.

r336, no one really did.

Data Orbital showed up and made this weird prediction based on an NBC reporter's data about which counties still had ballots left to count in AZ. That started people on DL saying "Arizona is lost," and I was just trying to explain why that was happening.

A couple of poll reporting aggregators on social media quoted Data Orbital but have since deleted their quotes of that claim. And Data Orbital itself seems to have deleted a couple of tweets.

Data Orbital isn't some fake company, they're real, but they're not very big and not very good.

[Quote] I am disgusted that so many Americans have voted for Trump. WTF is wrong with them? Seriously wondering.

"Blacks rioting in the streets! Commie Joe wants to take away our way of life!" etc.

Things are going to start heading south pretty quickly. These states need to hurry the fuck up

It's all right wing propaganda. They are really good at assigning *spooky* names to things that would benefit their poor voters. Obamacare, court packing, partial term abortion, feminazi, gay agenda, socialist, government handouts, tax hikes (when they benefit the lower 80%), libtard, ANTIFA and on and on. Supporters will be vehemently against Obamacare and Dr Fauci but rephrase it and they want affordable healthcare and the most qualified doctor when they are sick. SMH

From Vaughn Hilliard at NBC:

[quote]There now appear to be at least 605k uncounted Arizona ballots left.

[quote]With Trump down by 93,509 votes, he'd need to pull off 57.73% of the remaining vote.

[quote]I just talked with a Maricopa County elections official -- we will not get a vote drop until 7 p.m. (9 p.m. ET).

[quote]Maricopa County, per #s so far, make up ~2/3 of the remaining uncounted Arizona ballots.

[quote]It's not clear how many will be reported tonight. May be in two batches.

This election was lost on Facebook. Qanon was allowed to infiltrate the suburbs there. Mark Zuckerberg belongs in prison.

R342 If that's the case then they honestly have shit for brains.

So which races were hacked?

Arizona should be called tonight, more votes due in around 8

R346 True FB has radicalized 'mom' types who might be reachable by Dems because our policies would make their lives better but once they go down the FB rabbit hole it's over.

The riots will start tonight, it’s getting ugly

No r339.

Nevada isn't announcing any new votes til noon EST tommorow.

So Trump says counting stops in rust belt but demands no one call Arizona so votes can be continued to be counted in the sunbelt.

Explain this to me.

If anyone needs a vote counter, I'm available.

Fox has Biden up by 93K with 143K not tallied for Arizona based on their website postings. They are running ahead of MSNBC because their counts are higher. I think AZ is in the bag.

AZ should be called after 9pm EST when they get a look at the remaining ballots

Scratch that. I forgot about the percentage change. Its more like 520K not tallied.

The maps and margins look exactly like they *should* have in 2016. And Biden ran on almost the exact same centrist platform and proposals as Hillary. And pulled slightly more votes from the same demographic groups than she did.

So if there's anything to learn from 2020, it's that a presidential candidate's strongest advantage is to not have a vagina.

Arizona is releasing votes at 9pm EST. We will know for sure then. But it is very unlikely it would be enough to swing it for Trump.

There is a reason AP and Fox have already called the state.

[quote] They are really good at assigning *spooky* names to things that would benefit their poor voters ... partial term abortion

They actually say partial BIRTH abortion to imply that the baby is delivered just enough for the “abortionist” to kill it. And they call us sick.

Having tentatively won Wisconsin, Biden needs only Nevada, Arizona and Michigan to achieve 270 electoral votes.

Correct r360. But Nevada isn't releasing more votes til noon tommorow, so Biden isn't going to get called the winner til then.

R357 Look at the turn out though and that Trump's 2016 voters turned against him when he didn't make their lives better in the rust belt. I'm not disagreeing with you but I still think Biden would have crashed in 2016 too. These results are after impeachment, covid, a million firings, the wall, the drama, the racism, the sexism, the corruption, the taxes....

AZ should be called tonight R360, MI too.

Is the noonday thing related to fear of rioting?

We're aware

Ok I thought AZ was already called

So can the Trump team really interfere with or stop the counting, or is this all bloviating?

[quote] Arizona should be called tonight, more votes due in around 8

The AP called AZ for Biden hours ago.

Anyone know why r/conservative is creaming their parents over a supposed voter fraud caught on tape in Michigan? Some Internet personality Crowder has the video?

[quote]I am disgusted that so many Americans have voted for Trump. WTF is wrong with them? Seriously wondering.

Just from listening to Republican family members and co-workers, they were horrified by the BLM protests and riots this summer. It built upon the whole race divide that Trump rode to victory in 2016. It played right into his hands, which is why he did everything he could to prolong them. Whites have become extremely tribal in the last 4 years and that bias is stronger than just about anything else.

r366, Trump made the take it back. Just for show.

r366, Trump made the take it back. Just for show.

Trump camp may, or may not, have filed a lawsuit in Michigan.

R366, AP called AZ for Biden. Others haven't.

Yeah, Arizona has been called. The AP is not some by night organizarion, them calling a state means something.

But I can understand people won't feel secure til more vote is released tonight.

[quote]Btw, did Kanye get any votes?

About 60,000 nationally

r370, yes the entire campaign to "defund the police" was moronic. Why not "reform the police". Marketing wise it was wrong, so wrong.

This slow march to a Biden win is torturing the Orange Turd. Drip drip. I approve.

Stop pretending like you don't know Steven Crowder is an alt-right conman, R369.

60,000 votes? Oh, about the same number that bought his last 3 albums.

r376, I hope to see him among the 22 republicans I'm sure will be in the primary debates.

The Democratic Party did not have a campaign to defund the police, R377. Biden said more than once he did not support defunding the police.

R378, I know -- a slow, torturous IV drip.

The AP has Biden at 248. That means he needs only 22 more to hit 270:

AZ = 11; MI = 16; NV = 6

R384 MI is giving me the most hope right now. 99% counted

r382, I know that but the party got grouped into the BLM protests. From the start it should not have been called that at all.

I’m worried. Based on that, r376, I don’t think Kanye is going to win.

Democrats are going to have to find some way to win back some rural and midsized town voters. They can’t build a lasting coalition based on wealthier suburban voters. The suburbs have leaned more Democratic in the last 3 elections because some female voters there don’t like Trump, but they’d vote for a Romney again in a heartbeat.

Here in Ohio, it looks like Trump flipped Mahoning Co (Youngstown) for the first time since Nixon in 72. Democrats can’t hope to put together a reliable winning majority with just big urban areas and college towns. I hope the closeness of this election (plus the horrific beating Dems took down ballot) will prompt some soul searching for national Democrats about the party’s messaging and policies going forward.

Per North Carolina journalist Tim Boyam, it'll be November 12th before NC is completely counted, apparently due to about 117,000 mail-in ballots that have not been returned yet.

Also in a possible wildcard, worth pointing out the NYtimes needle still thinks Biden can squeak out a win in Georgia.

R329, link?

r385, not till that incumbent senator catches up, I will not be comforted.

I am worried about NV

The Trump voters I know (my family) do not like him but think he was good for the economy. Simple as that. The BLM stuff doesn’t even matter to them. I also know Venezuelans who voted for him because of Chavez.

Looking at Georgia, there is still alot of vote to come in from strong Biden counties.

Not to be a concern troll but Nate Silver's tweets about AZ make me a little nervous:

[quote]Trump needs to win the remaining AZ votes by something like 20-25% depending on how many ballots there are. By party registration, late-arriving mail votes were something like +19% R, per my (quick) calculations.

[quote]With that said, there are some reasons to think the late-arriving ballots would be less R than you'd gather from party ID. For one thing, the early arriving mail ballots went more heavily for Biden than party ID would suggest, perhaps reflecting his edge amount independents.

To my anxious mind it seems like 19 vs. 20% is cutting it pretty close...but I'm trying to stay positive. Pennsylvania is also still a possibility.

I wouldn't be that worried r393, the outstanding vote in Nevada is largely from Clark County.

Hillary won NV, should come in for Biden.

[Quote] Biden can squeak out a win in Georgia.

Hi Georgia!

His next point was ballots in Arizona have been more Dem heavy than party registration would suggest r396.

AP's map at Axios.

Re 401, Nebraska and Maine are called by AP.

R388, it really comes down to building small. The DNC needs to support local contests, community organizing, building a pipeline to turn young activists into strategists, campaign workers, legislative and judicial aides, etc.

Nevada looks promising. Returns still to come from Clark and Washoe

What is going on with AZ ?

[quote] The Trump voters I know (my family) do not like him but think he was good for the economy.

I'm curious. Did they also think Obama was good for the economy? Did they vote for Obama in 2008 and 2012? Obama cut unemployment in half, saved the auto industry, and shrank the deficit. And the stock market rose steadily while he was in office. Yet many Trumpers seem to think that Obama ruined the economy and Trump brought it back to life.

I love you, r399.

#390, a positive sign in GA is that Ossoff made up a huge gap in the past14 hrs:

Regular election

95% reporting David Perdue leads

David Perdue Republican Party 50.6% 2,390,120

Jon Ossoff Democratic Party 47.1% 2,226,191

Shane Hazel Libertarian Party 2.3% 108,708

Iowa, Maine and Ohio all mostly white trash backwoods bitter freaks who hate their lives and want the rest of Americans to hate themselves too

Read some posts above yours r405!!!

They are releasing more votes at 9PM, so you will have more info if you don't trust that AP and Fox have already called the state.

Michael Grynbaum, in New York 4m ago

On Fox News, Chris Wallace tells viewers the WI pickup is key for Biden: “It’s real simple math now. Six votes in NV, 16 votes in MI, and he reaches precisely the magic number.” (Fox has called AZ for Biden.)

[Quote] Yet many Trumpers seem to think that Obama ruined the economy and Trump brought it back to life.

Well, Obama is black (or "black") so he must have put the economy to work on street corners. Trump has his own tower, dontchaknow.

[quote]Trump needs to win the remaining AZ votes by something like 20-25%

I know Nate Silver said this but others watching the AZ results have said Trump needs more like 57%-61% to win. Are we sure Silver is correct here?

November 2020 . . . . . . .

The sky was so blue that day, and the fragrance of freshly baked cinnamon rolls wafted through the air.

And you will always remember where you were the day Donald Trump was defeated.

The thing about people who automatically vote R for the economy is that trickle down economics and the top 30% living well while the rest can just go learn to code... is that it makes life really ugly and unpleasant for everyone. Ok you have a 6 figure income or your 401K is great but your parks are run over with homeless people, you can't leave anything if your car or you're looking at a smash and grab. You have to walk through tent cities to take your kids to a game. You have to deal with the mentally ill on the streets. You have to buy in a gated community to feel safe from the hungry and desperate. And all the while the lack of a safety net means you're just watching the next generation of hopeless people growing up before your eyes.

I am absolutely willing to be more tax to have a safer, cleaner, more 'friendly' world. I find $3,000/month for a studio while the mentally ill and addicts defecate outside the lobby to be a miserable way to live for everyone. If that makes me a commie so be it.

seriously fuck Florida a bunch of racist white trash and racist Cubans

What's going on in Alaska? Why have they not projected a Trump win, even if they can't project other races?

I'm so happy the cheetoh is out, fuck him and his lying, murderous, stealing thugs.

Arizona, as of 3:30pm:

Arizona · President From The Associated Press 84% reporting ·

Joe Biden Democratic Party 55.6% 1,641,705

Donald Trump Republican Party 41.9% 1,236,113

Jo Jorgensen Libertarian Party 1.5% 43,531

Howie Hawkins Green Party 0.3% 7,419

Kanye West Independent 0.2% 6,377

Eskimos got frozen on their way to the “Poles”, R417. They were starting to head toward Russia.

[quote]Trump needs to win the remaining AZ votes by something like 20-25%

[quote]I know Nate Silver said this but others watching the AZ results have said Trump needs more like 57%-61% to win.

They're both right. Silver was talking about the difference between the Trump and Biden vote percentage, so a 60-40 split, overall, would be a "win by 20%."

what's happening in Detroit? Hearing about protests outside a counting facility and police have been called

are deplorables trying to do what happened in Florida 2000 via Roger Stone?

Thanks R421, if that's what he's saying then he's really bad at communicating.

The direct quote is "Trump needs to win the remaining AZ votes by something like 20-25% depending on how many ballots there are."

But he does follow it up with saying Repub votes were only +19 in previous mail-in ballots so I guess he meant that the remaining ballots would need to be +20 or higher.

Police are at a vote-processing facility in Detroit. I think Trumpers are harassing the staff. A small group outside. (Ayman this hour, upcoming segment)

Predictably, the Trump campaign has declared victory in PA even though there are roughly a million absentee ballots still to count.

r408, if Perdue drops below 50% is there a run off. Maybe the dem can make that happen.

yup deplorables trying to intimidate in Detroit. I hope it fails

Go Michigan!

I'm glad that Trump is announcing victory if it will stave off riots.

They've swarmed the room - the processing room?

[quote]Yet many Trumpers seem to think that Obama ruined the economy and Trump brought it back to life

These days, they really do operate in a separate reality. If your only news comes from Breitbart, OANN, Fox, HotAir, Gateway Pundit, RedState, etc., then yeah, you really do believe that Trump has been absolutely fucking awesome for the economy. "Lowest black unemployment ever!!!!" "Highest stock market ever!!!!"

It's the same shit around the pandemic: "Trump saved over a million lives with his prompt action!!!!" "Trump's action to stop travel from China was amazingly effective and Democrats tried to stop it by calling it racist!!!!" "94% of those 230,000 deaths were really caused by something else!!!!"

None of it is true, of course, but you simply cannot get through to them when they're force-fed so much bullshit on a daily basis.

wonder how many of those freaks were at the Michigan state house this past spring with guns out

Winning by 20% is the same as saying +20 r423.

You can attack Nate for plenty, but not that sentence.

The deplorable stunt in Detroit is several hours too late. Even if they stop the count, Biden has the lead.

That's how stupid they are.

Yes R403. I have a family member who was the last standing countywide elected Democrat in a rural county in Ohio. He got wiped out last night thanks to Trump’s overwhelming victory. It’s hard to win rural voters in a statewide contest when you don’t have any local elected officials in those areas. The last time Democrats elected a governor in Ohio he was from rural Appalachian Scioto County and won over that part of the state. Democrats are murdering off their farm team outside of cities by just conceding rural areas to the GOP.

When this is finally over, I hope Tiffany and Ivanka are forced to share a jail cell.

R429 you have to be kidding. You do realize by announcing a false victory there will be MORE violence if Trump ends up losing

WaPo is reporting 400,000 ballots in Maricopa County (AZ) still to be counted. That means a week remains before AZ definitively confirmed for Biden.

[quote] California embraced Prop 22 pushed by Silicon Valley so Uber and Lyft can keep treating their employees like shit.

People who use Uber and Lyft do so because they think it's cheaper. They're not about to vote for anything that will increase the costs of their ride.

Uber and Lyft have always been selfish outliers - both the company and its customers. Customers know that there is little regulation for drivers and for its operations. They don't care that it is helping to destroy the regular taxi industry which is regulated for the safety of the public.

Detroit: self-proclaimed poll watchers (Trump people) are in the processing room, taking up so much space that the official poll watchers can't get in and/or can't do their jobs.

yeah they're trying to pull a Florida 2000 Brooks Brothers

Nah r438.

Arizona will release a vote count ar 9pm and another after midnight and it should be fairly clear.

I think so, R441. The police better do their job and get rid of the unauthorized "watchers".

R419, where are those AZ numbers coming from?

Nate Silver is saying that AZ is going to release only some of the remaining ballots at 9PM, then more after midnight.

Only 22 to 270. So very close.

I'm still very angry about the senate. All the awful stunts McConnell and co have pulled and they get rewarded with continued power

it's maddening

Why not release them all together, r445?

Again, (very) small silver lining to GOP possibly holding the Senate. They are ready to dump Trump.

I'm annoyed that the mainstream media didn't give Gideon air time. I saw a lot of Harrison, Ossoff, McGrath

R435, I’m so sorry to hear! I think there is a lot untapped opportunity in rural areas. I hope the Dems really work to shift these areas blue(r).

I hope Democrats have learned that in the future they need to spend their money on voter data platforms and GOTV operations rather than archaic TV ads. Even radio is far more effective than TV. Biden had that huge money advantage, along with the Bloomberg money, and still got spanked by the Trump campaign in several key places. We have got to improve on our voter outreach and GOTV and not wait till a month before the election.

R450 Why were people even sending money to Kentucky?

Nate Cohn is at the point of wondering why no one has already called Michigan if you want to know the state of that race.

Protesters outside Independence Hall in Philly demanding that every vote be counted!

We need protesters outside Detroit to counter-protest and demand every vote be counted. No angry youth, though. No BLM, please. Old people would be good. Local grannies. Non-threatening, sympathetic.

Oh Nicolle is on. Very comforting.

R454 because the media’s “afraid” of Trump still. Oooh what’s he gonna do to them ??!?

R457 She looks better today. She looked a bit gutted last night as Fl and TX came in.

Black votes matter, r456.

Florida Latin pollster we see on MSNBC reads Cuban Floridians for filth! What dumbasses. The sad part is they'll probably blame losing healthcare on Biden

Why are they not calling Michigan? Trump can’t catch up

R453 because we hate him so much we want him gone. Kentucky does have a Democratic governor now but that's only because he has his father's family name. Kentucky is as much a repub shithole as anywhere

Cindy McCain is trending for handing Biden Arizona

r140, if Georgia's movie/tv production continues on its trajectory, it'll turn blue in 5-10 years. I have a fair amount of acquaintances in the film industry who struggled in Cali, moved to Georgia and are flourishing.

They will never dump him. These numbers are off. No way polling was that off and always in his favor in every fucking state. No way. This is high fuckery.

He threw away AZ when he relentlessly attacked McCain. I didn't agree with McCain on many things but I do think of that moment at his rally when that woman called Obama an Arab and he instantly grabbed back the mic and defended Barack's honor. Can you imagine if that happened at a Trump rally. He'd lead a 'lock him up' cheer.

Side note: The NYTimes coverage of the election has been hands down the best. I can't watch it unfold on TV - it makes me crazy. Also, when everyone (me including) was losing their shit early this morning, Mr. Steve Schmidt, balls of steel, did not waver in his statement that Biden would win. I see why people pay that guy the big bucks

Maine is weird. They love their "private" property and don't want anyone telling them what to do. They fear the Dems will tell them how to live and think. Plus many voters probably know Collins personally and that makes a huge difference.

I love Kamala but she goofed in choosing to wear a shade of red right now lol should have worn blue with Joe

Nobody but Trump thought all the votes would be in by midnight.

Joe speaking, believes he will win. Hope. He sounds like real POTUS. Throw Donnie and his trash family out!

They keep burying Susan Collins in the pet semetary in Maine and she keeps coming back. There's no getting rid of her.

Seeing the writing on the wall, Republicans are already breaking with Trump

Perdue is at 50.6, he dropped from 50.7. If he can drop below 50 then its a run off.

Peters pulled ahead in MI.

Biden’s speaking like he won. GOOD. Fuckers.

They seem to be trying to do a scumbag reboot of the Brooks Brothers Riot in order to stop the votes from being counted in blue as cornflowers Detroit. Good luck, suckers.

Trump supporters now raging against Fox on Twitter, supposedly Rush also went for them today. Who would have thought

Senator Peters (D) has pulled ahead of John James in Michigan! With Mark Kelly in Arizona, we can tie the Senate.

r474 if Bitchconell's face gets any longer it's going to slide off his skull

MI FOR BIDEN ! YASSSSSSSS

It feels good to hear Joe speak like a real leader. What a change.

R461 Do they have any read yet on whether that Cuban vote in Florida spans all generations? I've seen some older people over 65 who've got their Medicare not really giving the ACA issue much thought.

CNN Michigan goes to Joe!

They're now protesting the county building in Pittsburgh. It's small though...and stupid because Allegheny is the blue oaisis in a sea of red.

Finally they are officially calling Michigan!

Senator Peters (D) come through!!!!

If Biden holds AZ and NV, game over. SUCK ON IT TRUMP.

Kamala needs to wear blue to the victory speech

Michigan goes to Joe. It’s over. He won.

CNN gives Biden Michigan.

Now AZ tonight and NV and it’s over.

I’m getting a bit emotional

Biden can now lose Penn, Georgia, North Carolina and it doesn't matter as long as he hangs on in AZ and NV. Lead in NV is slim but 84% of votes in and most of the outstandings are in a heavily Democrat area. So to Trump: BYE BITCH!

From Zerohedge

[quote]In the first indication that the Senate is willing to accept a Biden victory, moments ago Senate Majority Leader McConnell - in a notable change in tone - said a new COVID-19 aid bill is still needed by the end of 2020, and it is possible that there is a "possibility" the Senate will concede on the key Democratic demand of help for state and local governments.

[quote]Moments prior to this, he said that "claiming you win the election is different from finishing the counting."

[quote]While markets remain too dazed to care, this suggests at two things: i) McConnell will concede to Democratic demands suggesting he won't back Trump in forcefully challenging the election outcome and ii) rumors of the reflation trade's death may have been greatly exaggerated.

Michigan called by NBC!

I think we have a really good shot at winning at least one of the GA senate seats. I think Democrats will turn out in force to vote, just like they've done for every special election since 2016. I hope we can force Purdue into a a runoff.

Buckle up! We’ve got 2 1/2 months of Trump’s litigious insanity to deal with now.

Biden can lose PA...but he is not going to. Most observers think he has it.

[quote]Trump supporters now raging against Fox on Twitter, supposedly Rush also went for them today. Who would have thought.

They were counting on the Fox election coverage to go all in on the conspiracy theories about the "stolen" election and the "fraudulent" votes. Since what is happening now is neither "stolen" nor "fraudulent," the newsroom didn't play along. Hence, the vitriol.

They'll likely get what they are looking for with Hannity and/or Carlson.

I’m exhausted.

Four long long years and nearly there. I probably will jump up and down and cry when the moment is here.

[quote] I probably will jump up and down and cry when the moment is here.

Pics please.

Me too. Tired, headache, nauseous and yes I will ball when Biden/Harris walk out to declare victory. It's been a loooong 4 years and I lost my mom 4 days before the 2016 election so this win will be a chapter for me in so many ways.

Fox also pissed off Trump supporters because they declared Trump had lost Arizona.

Yeah Fox News has not been playing along with Trump's the democrats are stealing the election fable so the right is very angry.

I think when AZ and NV get called I may suddenly burst out in tears of joy.

Step by step. We are slowly crawling out of yesterday’s despair. Come on, NV!

Omg so close now!!!

Guns stocks (RGR & SWBI) took a dive today over Biden fears. Buy them up cheap, because the MAGAts will be building even bigger arsenals.

Why people are confident about PA. Biden is doing better than Clinton, which is enough to flip her narrow defeat.

Now that more PA counties are nearly completing their counts, more good news for Biden in key places. Current Biden margin (vs. Clinton '16):

Lackawanna: 8.4 (3.5)

Luzerne: -16.6 (-19.3)

Washington: -22.9 (-24.5)

Northampton: 0.4 (-3.8)

Biden made a speech a few minutes ago. He would fed really sure about winning PA and they must have good internals there.

About NV, Trump people saying he might win there is like saying, I could still win NY, not all the votes are counted in NYC yet. Uh, no.

Clark County NV - bluest part of the whole state.

Be sure and stop by Freeperland and slake your thirst with their delectable, abundant tears.

LET’S DO THE MATH: I believe @JoeBiden is going to win the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania by 100,000 votes. Here’s why!

Biden sounded really sure ^^ about PA.

OMG almost over!!!! 😆😆😆😆

So AK and NC are the only likely EV gains for Trump now?

Now that Michigan has been called, the next thing to look out for is the Arizona vote release at 9pm.

R501 the Fox News division is Center/right but generally sane.

I take back all my negative comments. Biden looks to have this.

[Quote] yes I will ball

You sure like to

AZ tonight? NV tomorrow?

r500, I hope when NV and AZ come in and Trump sees PA won't help him, maybe he will just back off the stupid lawsuits and PA votes can come in.

No takesy backsies. They will remain on your record.

Is AZ still a possibility for Trump? Thought it was already called.

[quote]The thing about people who automatically vote R for the economy is that trickle down economics and the top 30% living well while the rest can just go learn to code..

For them, "the economy" = lower/no taxes + good job market

Possibly, R523. We're supposed to get a couple of updates this evening from Arizona and an update tomorrow from Nevada.

It's technically possible, albeit highly unlikely, for Biden to lose one or both, and there does seem to be some confusion about Arizona, in particular, but the odds are still with Biden for both of those states as well as Pennsylvania.

NV said Thursday morning earlier

By the way, the market is up up today.

AZ is done. Twitter is blowing up with people either thanking or attacking Cindy McCain.

Trump has no one to blame but himself for Arizona. The way he attacked McCain alive and dead was horrible.

joe biden has huge lead in Arizona. Biden won Arizona. I do not think they made it official yet though.

[quote]Is AZ still a possibility for Trump? Thought it was already called.

A couple of news organizations have called it; others have declined to do so.

I'll settle for tie in the Senate since VP Kamala can break it

Hasn't Joe won even without NV? That's 270 with MI?

The reason that some news organizations are reluctant to call Arizona is that only 86% of the vote is in. Trump needs to win the remaining votes there by something like 20 percentage points, which is why Fox is standing by their prediction.

You have to hand it to the Biden campaign. They ignored the twitter advice and remained dead focused on “the big three” MI, WI, and PA and Biden will win because of it. Despite Beto queening out all over the place, Texas was never happening. Biden campaign knew that.

No r536.

He needs Nevada or PA to win (if we count AZ as a done deal)

I would like to do the math with Brian Sims. We'll start with the Wiener Measure, then the ASS Postulate.

Eric and Rudy are at a Pennsylvania rally and FOX is carrying it.

They're claiming FRAUD!

Eric Trump and Rudi, two idiots, whining in Phili PA. Lawsuit coming. PA doesn’t matter if Joe takes other two.

GO JOE GO!!!

Imagine how well he'd be doing with a good running mate.

No, R536, it’s still a few more. But during his speech, Biden sounded very confident about PA. He sounded like he knew. So either way, Trump go bye bye.

What part of PA did Brian Sims represent?

WaPo map shows MI 98% counted, Mighty Joe with 67K lead.

This is what 538 says about Arizona and why it's not quite as dead certain a lock as the Wisconsin and Michigan calls were:

Arizona. We may need to do a longer post on Arizona later. What’s left to count is mostly mail votes that were returned late in the process — on Monday or Tuesday. There’s some ambiguity about how many ballots this actually is; Edison Research seems to think around 450,000. If so, Trump would need to win those votes by 21 points to overtake Biden’s current 93,000-vote lead. They’re disrupted [sic] fairly evenly throughout the state.

Wait — outstanding mail votes? Shouldn’t those be good for Biden, as in other states? Well, not necessarily, because Republicans have a fairly strong mail voting program in Arizona and — this is the key part — the mail ballots that were returned later in the process (the ones yet to be continued) were significantly redder than the ones that came in earlier on, as Democrats sent their votes in early. For instance, the party registration of the votes that came in Monday and Tuesday were: 23 percent Democratic, 44 percent Republican, and 33 percent independent or other parties. That is to say, a 21-point GOP edge, which would put Trump on track to tie things up.

But … here’s the bad news for Trump. Party registration may be a misleading indicator in Arizona. It has a lot of ancestral Republicans who have now turned into swing voters. Biden also had a big lead among independents in polls. And earlier batches of mail ballots were considerably stronger for Biden than party registration alone would suggest. So probably these ballots are going to come in more for Trump than for Biden, but not as strongly as he needs.

There’s also the fact that two other news organizations, the Associated Press and Fox News, have called the state for Biden. I’d assume they’ve put more work into looking into this than I have, so that shifts my priors a bit, but you never know and you will get incorrect calls occasionally. Overall, I’d say this is Likely Biden but I don’t think the state should have been called yet.

R298, You are correct. Not only did he do what you described, not one single Wall Street type went to jail under Eric Holder. Fuck, Bush I took people to fucking jail for the S&L fiasco. Obama? Not a peep. This was part of the groundwork for a Trump type fucking nut job to capture the insane from 8 years of the big collapse.

Now we have Pelosi and Schumer. Both should be put out to pasture. Like as soon as possible. Also, the DNC head needs to be replaced now.

FOX just claimed that Biden is at 264 electoral. They even broke into this Trump/Giulianni presser to tell us!

R541, Why are they having a rally, voting is over. Is that a “let’s have a riot and break things” rally?

R541 Fox trying to give Trump a moment. CNN on tv and Fox and other con media sites with my laptop just to enjoy this moment, how they try to explain what is happening.

R550 They're rallying to claim FRAUD!

Important to note that if Biden wins PA, which is the prevailing belief, he could lose Arizona and Nevada and still win.

Biden has a couple paths to victory.

R549 Golden moment! Imagine what Fox viewers are thinking! Lol

R552, but what kind of people go to an event like that before the election is even called, other than rabble rousers? Nobody but the people windows were boarded up for. Everyone else is at home watching the news.

Arizona is a completely different animal. It has deep republic party roots in a Goldwater tradition. The state is generally liberal socially compared to say Idaho or some other nut job state. Biden will hold.

If he wins NV and AZ, Biden has 270.

If Trump gets PA, GA, NC and Alaska, he will have 269. Right?

I hope this is the last public speech Rudi will be giving. He lost. Turn around and don’t come back.

[quote] If he wins NV and AZ, Biden has 270.

Yes, that sounds correct to me.

Congratulatory tidings to the vast, vast majority of Data Lounge! ☺

I need PollTroll is explain Arizona to me

R552 It's not much of a crowd...and they're all wearing masks! It probably has less to do with the virus and more to do with their being ashamed to be there.

I think this was biden's last plan...

Sue trump in Florida about cheating. But biden does not have to because he won the other states. If trump demands a recount in a state, biden can say okay, I want a recount in Florida (or another state where they suppressed the vote.) But the SCOTUS is nutjobing now, so he could have lost this. The ruling would have pissed people off.

It is looking good for biden. A clear win. Now, when is trump going to shut the fuck up and leave?

I can't wait to listen to a press conference by the president of the United States and not hear outrageous lies.

R545 Brian Sims is a Democrat representing Center City Philadelphia's 182nd District in the Pennsylvania House of Representatives.

Trump has lost Arizona. Biden has a huge lead. They just are not making it official, until the trump lawyers shut the fuck up.

No, R557. There are 538 in total. You need 270 to win. If Biden gets exactly 270, Trump got 268.

The counties left to count in Arizona and Nevada have a huge Mexican-American Democratic demographic. Nevada and Arizona look very possible for Biden.

I wish GA and PA were also coming along, but if it's not to be. We still win with a combination of MI/WI/NV/AZ

r561, Nevada's law allows mail in ballots to be post market by election day, so some could still be coming in the mail. They have to nov. 10th to certify their votes.

AP called AZ HOURS ago. I don’t know why others (except, apparently, Fox News according to a post above) are so reluctant to.

Trump tried to throw out a bunch of mail in ballots in NV. The Supreme court of NV had to step in, and they ruled NO. Trump lost NV.

[quote] I’m getting a bit emotional

I’m not crying, YOU’RE crying!

My bad, with Alaska, Georgia, PA and NC, Trump will have 268 not 269.

When will PA be called? Someone posted they were accepting mail in ballots until Friday.

But it sounds like PA is unlikely for dump

It's poetic justice if Trump should lose at the hands of the Mexicans. lol

You couldn't write a more fitting ending to Trump's presidency.

My only fear about Nevada is how hard Las Vegas has been hit by the pandemic.

You couldn't ask for a better demonstration of what a hot load of garbage the Trump campaign is than the events of the last 24 hours. A desperate run to the courts ON ELECT ION DAY before the polls even close to stop counting votes for no reason in NV which is immediately smacked down by the judge. Trying to slap down Fox News for calling AZ only to be openly laughed at by them. Trying to gin up another Brooks Brothers riot in MI to stop the vote count hours after Biden has the lead and would only benefit from it. And now screaming fraud in PA when it's looks as though Biden doesn't even need it.

This is such a fucking farce. And instead of post-mortems on the stupidity of attacking McCain or stacking your reelection team with grifters and idiots, all the press will talk about is how Biden's historic win just isn't *enough.*

CNN and MSNBC are projecting 253 electoral votes for Biden and FOX has it at 264!!

Nevada is now saying they are hoping to have an update tonight!!!!

This election is now looking like it could be called later tonight.

Yes, with Arizona and Nevada Biden is at 270. He wins. We don’t need Pennsylvania or Georgia. But if he gets PA he’s at 290. If he gets both he’s at 306.

Bottom line: He is likely the next President of the United States.

Trump doesn't have NC just yet. They are still accepting mail ballots, and the number expected is larger than Trump's current lead. So it could come down to just how many show up.

Hopefully since Biden won't need NC, the USPS will just go ahead and deliver them, even if DeJoy doesn't like it.

AZ has 600,000 votes to count.

[quote] My only fear about Nevada is how hard Las Vegas has been hit by the pandemic.

Strong union town and the unions are pro Biden

My guess was 290!

[Quote] AZ has 600,000 votes to count.

This doesn't give me good feelings.

The pessimist side of me is still thinking Trump will sneak out the win.

Nevada is reporting tonight as well? Woohooo!

I need to get drunk. I am celebrating tonight.

It is looking good for Joe Biden. And let's be honest, really humanity. We have a lame duck section with orange hitler, regardless.

Why are people so sure about NV?

Because the remaining votes are in Vegas, R590.

[Quote] Nevada is reporting tonight as well? Woohooo! I need to get drunk. I am celebrating tonight.—oracle

Shouldn't you have foreseen all of this?

R586 maybe votes are from big cities where Joe is even more popular

As for Florida, I feel like Dorothy and Sophia voted for Biden, while Blanche and Rose voted for Trump.

[quote]CNN and MSNBC are projecting 253 electoral votes for Biden and FOX has it at 264!!

When I went to bed in the early hours last night I was feeling pretty glum and down about Bidens chance of winning the presidency especially after Florida, Ohio and Texas stayed with Trump. Oh Boy what a difference a good nights sleep makes!🙂😁

Rose would NEVER vote for Trump.

Blanche would have been Trump 2016

Hah I fucked up makin a new thread. Called it the same name. Here’s a better one.

Trump tried to throw out a bunch of mail in ballot (sent to registered dems) in NV. The Supreme court had to step in and block trump from doing this. These ballots are now being counted.

Blanche would have been a shy Trumper.

Yeah love the character but Blanche would for sure be a Trump supporter.

Gary Peters is hanging on. Up .3% with 96% counted

Only Blanche would have voted Trump. Rose was from Minnnesota, and would have been horrified by the pussy grabbing.

Dorothy and Sophia would have known Trump was a crook from their NYC days.

Perdue down to 50.5. He drops .1 every hour so maybe there is hope.

I thought Fox called AZ for Biden as early as last night.

FUCK OFF DONALD TRUMP

R595, some haven’t declared Arizona yet

[quote]I'll settle for tie in the Senate since VP Kamala can break it

For a tie, Dems need to take 3 more seats, assuming MI and AZ are in the bag. This means any three of NC, 2 GA seats, AK. Very unlikely.

Must kill Trump that Joe has more votes than any other Pres in history

Donald Trump - the man who would not be king.

Last night I dreamt Joe Biden was my father. I just found out he was my father when he showed up in my apartment to kill me. He was going to kill me & my sister with drug overdoses. He had spread the rumor we were drug users & was going to OD us with fentanyl. My sister is a Trumpster, so I figured I wouldn’t tell her of Joe’s plan, but then I looked at her & she wasn’t my real life sister so I thought “Since she’s not my real sister, maybe she’s a good person. Maybe I should try to warn her.”

There was also a war going on. Then I had to poop & was sitting on a toilet but there was no door to the bathroom. I couldn’t go because of embarrassment & was getting a stomach ache. I was also trying to hide from Joe, who was just around the corner with a syringe. Then I heard Joe also had an illegitimate child too. I was so angry that I could’ve been brought up in the lap of DC luxury if I’d known all my life that I was Joe’s legitimate child, but it was hidden from me. And now he wanted to kill me. I could’ve been someone.

I could hear shooting outside my building but did t know which side it was. I realized I didn’t know which side I was on & which side was which anyway. Was I going to die by Joe, or die by enemy gunfire, only to find out it was friendly fire after I’d been shot?

I drank a bottle of champagne and ate my leftover Halloween candy last night while reading election results (I don’t watch tv “news”:at election time. It’s too stupid.). I buy full sized candy bars, too. So it was quite a good deal of chocolate. Also had chips. So I had too much sweet, salty & fizzy stuff. Good thing I don’t watch tv election coverage or who knows what I may have dreamt

r609, I think they only need two

right now they are at 46 + AZ and MI = 48.

Left of the 4 are NC, 2 Georgia and (AR - not happening.)

One run off already in Georgia looks good, another run off is possible. NC slim chance.

But only need two to tie it up. Now they have the VP.

Alaska has the senate seat not given yet to republicans don't know why, no AR.

I don't think we can control the senate but we could very well get the the run off from Georgia and with the Independents that caucus with the dems, can be at 49-51 and if ONE republican moves over for a vote then we can break a tie.