Election Night 2020: Part 3

I'm having serious 2016 PTSD flashbacks

Part 2

Trafalgar was right again. Still waiting for them to be proven wrong.

Gee I wonder if young people and minorities, the 'Obama coalition', would have turned out for Bernie or Warren?

You do know black voters are skeptical of Biden too. He’s said many unnerving comments and has a bad history with black people too.

You can’t be that shocked.

R1, I was just thing the same thing. It was around the same time in the evening back in 2016 when we began to sense things were going downhill. I keep looking at Maddow for her facial expression to reflect the pending doom.

News is saying that so far the POLLS HAVE BEEN WRONG!

This is what I have been saying on here for weeks but everybody ignored me. The polls are wrong again!!!!!!! They are worthless.

CNN calls COLORADO SENATE race for HICKENLOOPER.

YES, the real losers of this are Nate Silvers of this world.

Unreal

Minnesota called for Biden

Took them long enough.

What. a. huge. fucken. mess!

Stolen - again.

Lindsey G is back!

So can Biden still win if Trump wins Ohio & Florida?

Fucking Lindsey twat

We've been hearing for at least the last 20 years that Arizona, Texas and Georgia were going to flip. While AZ is a possibility, the other two, once again, are NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. So tired of you delusional people.

Yes r16, but he needs to hold on to that blue wall.

R16 - No. and PA will go to Trump also.

Yes, R16. He can. But he can’t lose PA, WI, to Michigan.

I have not seen anything about MN

No he can’t. R16

So far this is just too similar to 2016. Russian hacking again?

R18. You are correct. Not looking good.

I am vacillating between wanting to go to sleep / staving off an anxiety attack

[quote] So can Biden still win if Trump wins Ohio & Florida?

Yes.

NOTHING unexpected has happen yet. Nothing.

Some disappointing things, but the polls have not been wrong.

r11 AP hasn't called MN.

More states closing now.

Susan is looking less concerned this evening. Bitch.

Gosh. Why are the polls always wrong in the Republicans’ favor??

Hmmmm.

If Biden chose a white man as his VP he would be doing better.

And as for the Russians, it seems to have worked out very well for them.

Reminder: you need 270 votes to win. It does not need to be a landslide. The Biden campaign as almost exclusively focused on the upper Midwest for a reason. The southern states were always very optimistic. You. Only. Need. 270. Despite what Trump says.

OMG, where is drunk Don Lemon when you need him?

r20 is full of shit. Biden can still win if he holds on to Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania (the industrial mid west).

Trump has not flipped any Hillary 2016 states yet (and hopefully he won't).

[quote] Republican Lindsey Graham wins reelection to U.S. Senate from South Carolina,

R24: Yes, it is so fucking obvious. Exact repeat of 2016. We are not choosing our elected officials anymore.

R31 Kamala brings NOthing! he screwed the pooch with his female running mate pronounecment

There's no more debating - here comes my THIRD vokda/soju martini. Extra dirty - like these results.

Idaho just closing. Dump really needs to win Idaho.

Unbelievable that nasty little queen Lindsey managed to get reelected!

I think I am going to step away from this for a while and go outside for a walk.

I am beginning to seriously think it looks like Dump is going to get another 4 years.

I’m watching Judge Judy

Fuck every fucking poll that has ever been taken.

The Biden campaign’s strategy has always been 270. Anything else would be a plus and they knew it. Why do you think Biden spent his weekend there instead of Texas?

R33, Biden does not want close races. They dont want anything up for court challenge where they will LOSE.

So Biden is at 131, he needs AZ, CA. WA. OR, NV to get to 222, making him 48 short. It looks like he is loosing WI, Mi, OH, and PA. he has to win Texas.

Looking at a trump presidency Y'all.

I don't know about NC. Yes Union County has yet to report it's totals, but looking at the rest of the counties the ones that are at less than 90% are the populous Democrat leaning ones. Plus Union County doesn't have that much of a population.

It's 2016 all over again.

We’re fucked in NC. Which means we lost the senate. Nothing will be done for two years even if Biden wins!

Biden is going to win... but he may not break 300 in the EC, so, yeah, a disappointment.

But remember the goal is to replace Trump with Biden. Still on track to do that with votes, if not from legal challenges.

I’m watching The Good Witch. America seems nice there.

R35 - but Biden won't. Just facing shitty facts and not wasting time on false hopes.

[quote]OMG, where is drunk Don Lemon when you need him?

Probably with Diane Sawyer.

Biden is ahead in NC by only 6K votes. NC is lost to Trump as the same votes remain out and he is winning same-day votes.

Y’all, Philly isn’t counting any more mailed ballots tonight so I don’t think PA will be counted.

Yes R24 I truly believe there is Russian vote tampering going on.

And Ohio is gone. Biden down by 3 now

I just took a xanax.

I knew that hick James Carville was full of shit last night when he said the race would be called for Biden at this time.

I don't care if Biden gets 271 R55. As long as he wins.

[quote] It looks like he is loosing WI, Mi, OH, and PA. he has to win Texas.

Not even remotely accurate. And, it’s losing not “loosing.”

Trump takes goes ahead in OH. So far, Biden has not picked up any state from 2016.

This is looking more and more like 2016.

Dump takes Kansas

I want to die.

[quote]If Biden chose a white man as his VP he would be doing better.

Well, we were all told that the candidate HAD to be Biden, because he was who the Blacks wanted. And we were told that his running mate HAD to be a Person of Color because Blacks were DEMANDING it. And now the Blacks don't show up. Democrats need to take a hard look at their priorities if they expect to win.

Ah, fuck off, Kornacki, with that "Biden can win Florida" bullshit!

Did John King just say that if Trump keeps Virginia he wins?

Sanity break. I’m going to rewatch Schitt’s Creek episodes now.

Maybe all seasons in one big binge.

AZ is going to be more important for Biden now.

Cubans are the dumbest human beings on planet earth. The “Biden is a socialist” worked on them. Good god.

BLM rocks the vote!

Hi, your "concern troll" here. You know the one that said that Trump winning was a more than a pipe dream. As in 2016, I was called a concern troll, banished from the Democratic Underground for being realistic.

After this, the full on end of "Centrist" Democrats and insanely old people running for office and not getting their hands dirty. It was another knife fight and the Democrats came with a spork.

r67 Virginia was called for Biden a long time ago.

Biden looking strong in AZ. But let's see if he can hold it.

But...but..but...but..

Did anyone else hear Joy Reid call Florida a graveyard state?

My PTSD is kicking in.

Biden leading Maricopa County in Arizona so far.

Good sign for Biden in AZ so far.

R65: Stop blaming black people asshole! Something much more nefarious is going on here and it involves white people (from Russia)!!

[quote]I want to die.

I want to kill.

This will obviously not be a blowout, but Biden can still win it. And a win is still a win even if it is relatively close in the electoral college.

Focus on what matters fellow DLers.

But yeah, the polls were wrong AGAIN. I'm never following polls ever again.

Wow...Maricopa County big vote for Biden. These are early votes. This is significant.

Is it me or is everything moving more slowly tonight than normal? Usually a solid projection can be made by the 11pm hour. It seems like this will go on well after midnight.

How R55? What are they doing? How are they tampering with the votes?

I think it's much more likely that this is who the American people truly are and who they are voting for. Important to note that just because Dump only gets 40% approval ratings - that doesn't mean other conservative Americans who don't approve of him don't hold their nose and vote GOP anyway. For them anything is better than having the Dems in power. Others don't care about what Dump says or does - they only care about the economy and what they can get financially.

I think the results are the American people voting honestly and showing exactly who they are. Cunts.

I know we wanted a blow out BUT so far Biden is putting up a strong fight in states which I personally wasn't hoping for like OH, NC, TX and AZ. Lets wait and see.

Here's the thing, CLOSE is not a WIN.

The pollsters are going to use the excuse of so many early voters as the reason they were so wrong.

[quote] Virginia was called for Biden a long time ago.

No, it wasn’t. They haven’t counted the early vote yet and won’t until 11:30.

NC is still very very close.

Maricopa County has not voted for a Dem since Truman in 1948.

Biden has a good chance to win it tonight.

George Stephanoupolus said on ABC that this looks alot like 2016

Polls are dead in the water R80. There should be a lot of pollsters out of a job tomorrow.

I would change your DL name PollTroll.

Remember that Biden can win if he flips Michigan, Wisconsin, and Arizona. He can lose both PA and Ohio.

We won't know the results of all this for a few more days.

And that's the saddest part of it -- that this country is so sick it can't decide between Biden and the worst human being on earth.

This gentleman really sums up why this election was so important.

I am saddened by this... What will this country look like in 2 years, 4 years????

A country based on hatred? How can we survive it.

[quote] So when do the pundits who trashed HRC apologize for calling her a poor candidate and admit this country is full of white supremacists?

It's already like that R93. Looks like it will get worse.

The numbers for Biden in MI, PA and WI not looking great. He has to win them all to win, unless he picks up AZ.

R78. I don't blame Blacks but the facts are that the black mail-in vote in GA was lower than with Stacy Abrahams. There was hope that there would be a significant increase in black same day voters. Did not happen.

Cortez in for NY

Maricopa, Pima and Yuma to some extent will be Biden. The rest of the state are republican goblins.

There would be something fitting if John McCain’s state was decisive in evicting Trump from the White House. Fingers crossed!

[quote] is this just a referendum on BLM, cancel culture, SJW speech contol?

Exactly. Structural racism, critical race theory, 1619 Project, etc.

R92 I doubt he’ll flip MI

Come on, ARIZONA!!!

r87 AP called VA for Biden at 7:41PM ET

Somebody please explain to me how any states can project who won any of the races when the gazillion absentee votes aren't counted yet. All we've heard for the past few weeks is that it'll take all week to count the absentee votes.

Does voting early mean NOTHING if the race seems to be determined by the same-day votes?

Off topic Vaughan Hillyard has the most beautiful blue eyes, I never noticed that before.

How can this race be remotely close?

r65 is a racist.

Shun him gals!

Biden WILL win AZ. Now if he can only not lose any of Clinton states!!!!!!

I need to know about Joy Reid's blouse. Please help.

R74: That is the concern...everytime Biden looks strong in an crucial red/purple state, Trump suddenly comes up and surpasses him... Just like in 2016...It seems the Russians are even using the same exact algorithm. Why change the hacking code if it worked before?🤷‍♂️

There is a shy trump voter. It’s called Russians hacking voter machines. Sorry but there is no way that almost 100% of Election Day vote in key states is going to Trump. NC is fishy. We need the UN to help us.

WI is getting closer. Momentum appears to be with Biden. Let's hope.

I was watching Spectrum News and they were interviewing a woman who said there have been many reports of very scary “intimidation” happening in some states but there is no coverage for it.

They seemed to rush her off after.

I assume why so many black people are staying home in many Midwestern and Southern states is due to that.

Why can Maddow never just ask a question? It's always "let me ask you a question" then her blathering for a minute before she actually asks it.

I agree with the hacking theory. I believe they are padding the rural votes a few thousand here and a few thousand there.

the hell VA????

[quote]Somebody please explain to me how any states can project who won any of the races when the gazillion absentee votes aren't counted yet. All we've heard for the past few weeks is that it'll take all week to count the absentee votes. Does voting early mean NOTHING if the race seems to be determined by the same-day votes?

If the total number of uncounted ballots aren't enough to make up the difference between the candidates, it can't affect the outcome.

R111 - I'm not discounting what you say.

How many times have we had election interference? Why would we think this would be different?

I'm beyond disappointed so far. It doesn't help that the maps have all of the majority of counties being red - but nobody lives there!.

Visually, it's a bad graphic to show.

Joe wins NM.

Four more years of this cunt.

Unbelievable.

And I bet we probably don't even get the Senate.

Un-fucking-believable.

Kelly (D) leading McSally (R) by 11 points in AZ with 72% of the vote in.

If Trump wins get ready for Ivanka 2024

I live inside an extended family liberal bubble. Its going to be rough for awhiloe with some of them

Why the fuck is Joy wearing red?? She's a fucking moron.

Americans who live in the cities are not going to accept being governed by the ones who live in rural areas forever.

USPS disregards court order to conduct sweeps in 12 postal districts after more than 300,000 ballots can’t be traced

ABC just said the map is increasingly looking like the map from 2016

[quote] [R65]: Stop blaming black people asshole! Something much more nefarious is going on here and it involves white people (from Russia)!

No, sadly, not from Russia. The irony here is, black people are being blamed for not helping to offset the overwhelming number of white people who vote for Donald fucking Trump.

Where are you seeing that much of the vote in? All I have is 1.4%.

Greenfield (D) leading Ernst (R) in Iowa in the early votes.

Trump just went ahead in NC.

The electoral college has to go. Popular vote only please (like every other country on earth)!

So sick of rural cunts. So sick of gun nut cunts. So sick of evangelical cunts. So sick of cunts. Come on America, shit out this turd.

Really, R127? How is that going to change. Do you think city people will rose to the street against rednecks? Good luck with that.

As another poster said above, comparing the Hillary results and now Biden, it is obvious without a doubt there are entire groups of people that are huge in numbers that are stupid, racist, homophobic, uneducated and just plain morons.

Thank the Christofascists and republic party for making this possible from the long slog they took on after Reagan was elected. It now has paid off for a country to be unrecognizable by 2022.

Arizona looks like it is going to flip to Biden. Thank goodness.

Tuberville called in AL. Now we're back to no gains in the Senate.

Amen R134!

[quote] Tommy Tuberville Unseats Alabama Sen. Doug Jones

Ernst will win Iowa as will Trump. I was back there a few weeks ago, no way that the Democrats will win either.

Yes agreed R124. If I could put one of those little vomit emojis here I would.

The near future is going to be literally unbearable. I can't believe this is happening again.

Everyone is going to start getting angry soon. Then what?

Michigan unfortunately is full of rednecks

ABC is saying that Trump supporters are turning out in HIGHER numbers than in 2016 - that is making the difference

well, so are Biden voters, clearly, r145, so that just sounds like bullshit and nonexplanation.

So the rallies worked?

Shit -- Doug Jones lost his senate seat!

No senate, no SCOTUS expansion.

I feel numb and powerless.

"ABC is saying that Trump supporters are turning out in HIGHER numbers than in 2016 - that is making the difference"

This is the quality of real in-depth research that Five Thirty Eight is usual known for, and ABC is no slouch in that department either. Who would thunk things like THAT would happen?

well, doug jones was almost certainly going to lose. Alabama is fucked up and ridiculous, now and forever.

Don't give up hope!

[quote] well, so are Biden voters, clearly

He is saying that Trump votes are MORE than the Biden Voters who came out to

[quote]Arizona looks like it is going to flip to Biden. Thank goodness.

NYET!

WE WILL FIX IN MINUTE!

Absolute bullshit. Record turnout and Republicans win????

Bullshit. I don’t believe anything anymore.

Biden ahead in AZ by 9 points with 74% of the vote in.

Yes, the rallies worked. Biden did the responsible thing, but that's not what always wins.

What's taking Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania so fucking long?

R83 has it:

[quote] I think it's much more likely that this is who the American people truly are and who they are voting for. Important to note that just because Dump only gets 40% approval ratings - that doesn't mean other conservative Americans who don't approve of him don't hold their nose and vote GOP anyway. For them anything is better than having the Dems in power. Others don't care about what Dump says or does - they only care about the economy and what they can get financially. I think the results are the American people voting honestly and showing exactly who they are. Cunts.

This is who people are. People who like Trump. There’s no conspiracy.

I think what worked is fear that Democrats would lead to riots and socialist policies. And of course racism. The country is fucked. Now they will go even further with greed and corruption and turning in science.

NEVER TRUST POLLS AGAIN!!!!

Trafalgar wins!

that doesn't mean that r153. Both could easily be turning out in higher numbers. This is a highly contested election and everyone is deeply invested this time around.

That's good PollTroll, BIden needs Arizona.

Is it more likely that thousands of people live in these tiny rural towns or the vote totals are being hacked in real time by foreign actors in order to pad the rural areas?

All of them are full of shit R153.

If anything comes of this debacle it should be that polls and polling and projections and talking heads on tv shows are all full of total horseshit and only morons pay any attention to any of it.

[quote]Biden ahead in AZ by 9 points with 74% of the vote in.

Where is this coming from? 74% this early?

I just took ANOTHER Xanax.

well, that is certainly not definitive r159. Whatever happens, it is certainly not true that you can establish tonight based purely on the vote whether there was tampering.

Is AZ important?

The thing that has me worried is PA/WI/MI. Can someone who knows how those states work make sense of them?

[quote] Is it more likely that thousands of people live in these tiny rural towns

That is what CNN is saying, that Trump targeted these smaller towns to build that coalition

Everyone is already moving to analysis, before results? That seems weird.

[quote] NBC News projects Democrats will retain control of the House of Representatives.

How many is that now R167? I think you're awesome!

Wish I had a few Xanax to pop myself...

Nothing to do to change the outcome at this point. I think it's time for bed.

[quote] The electoral college has to go. Popular vote only please (like every other country on earth)!

Trump is leading by more than 2 million in the popular vote.

I really want to just swallow a bottle of pills. This is too much.

The medium is the message (with all these 24 hour news channels).

Your sweet little grandma who thinks that a 5G signal will control her brain, probably kept her vote decision to herself, as your cookie baking mom that watches FOX and CNN and seemed so reasonable did, or that neighbor that has no issues with gay people, (well maybe a little), did, the stupid big bodybuilder on IG that shakes his ass and tells everyone to vote also, and the cool guy at the office pre-pandemic did but told you he had an open mind.

The real truth is people lie. All the time.

Nate Silver should have that tattooed on his forehead.

Early call in NH for Biden. White people are going for Biden. He’s fine. He will win the upper Midwest.

How the fuck can a nation stand in line FOR HOURS AND HOURS and what, ...vote for Trump?

None of this makes any sense.

I just turned the TV off. I am getting way too many flashbacks of 2016. If Turd wins again, at least I won't have to see it live, and if Biden somehow pulls through, it will be a pleasant surprise tomorrow because I think I'm going to go to bed now.

[quote]Trump is leading by more than 2 million in the popular vote.

California will change that.

I spent time in the last four weeks in MN, IA, SD, NE, MI, and WI. I kept telling everyone that the pollsters were wrong. But when talking to those outside of the cities and some suburban areas, you would learn that they are fearful of liberal ideas such as LGBTQ, abortion, socialism, and the violence that occurred with many of the riots. Right or wrong, BLM was blamed. We can continue to put our heads in the sand like ostriches and blame them for being bigots, racists or whatever, but we need to begin to listen and quit calling them just flyovers.

They already said they'd be slow r158. Why is everyone acting like they've been blind, deaf, and dumb for the past month?

When you see a race that's close, and all of a sudden the Rs start pulling ahead, just a little bit, that's classic vote theft.

It looks like Trump is going to win. Turtle and Senatrice are re elected. This looks bad.

Is Rachel Maddow crying yet?

(I can't watch)

[quote] Trump is leading by more than 2 million in the popular vote.

Who cares? Way too early to even think about the PV.

r176. California and the west coast hasn't come in yet.

[quote] Biden wins New Hampshire.

[quote]Is AZ important?

Yes. Biden may need AZ in case he loses one of MI, PA or WI.

Yes, Biden will win with a total vote approaching 65% in CA.

and why is everyone going into a panic. is this part of the plan?

[bold]WHAT[/bold] exactly is the tampering R168? What are they doing and how is it being done and where?

Facts please - not Russian conspiracy theories.

These ridiculous Russian conspiracy theories are the our sides (the left) equivalent of the batshit crazy QAnon cultists. I'm sick of all of it.

Is this all part of Trump declaring victory tonight, before anything is really determined?

Sum Ting Wong!

These threads are filled with Trump Scum Trolls

[quote] Who cares? Way too early to even think about the PV.

I was responding to someone else's specific comment.

The NYT needle/vote count program is making mistakes in North Carolina, which means it might be making mistakes in other states.

R198, no panic, just realistic.

Russians are flubbing the vote counts and they’re doing a bad job. Thom tillis having more votes than trump in NC. When Tillis has been running a full 5 points BEHIND trump in EVERY poll? Sure.

Polls aren’t designed to reflect public mood, but designed to influence it.

No one wants to hear this tonight, probably, but the fact that we're seeing QAnon, far-right, and even Nazi candidates win at state levels means that even in Biden wins, we have a HUGE problem in the US right now.

If it's true that the Hispanic vote in FL was lost because some Bernie stan flew a Che Guevara flag a few months ago, that's another indicator that we have some serious issues that probably go back to propaganda and media manipulation.

The only positive if the Upper Midwest stays blue and Biden wins Pennsylvania. This will be close so forget a blue wave. Dems may not take over the Senate.

Did DT win NC? If so, this is very bad.

r186, Lindsey won too? Fuckin' figures.

Charlie Sykes is saying that Milwaukee County is the key to a Biden win in WI. If Democrats don't turn out, blacks, white, and latinos, then it is over.

You've been spamming with that for days, R202. Shut up.

Tonight is chaotic. No one knows what the fuck is going on. Which votes are what. Who’s showing up. Putin has succeeded.

If you look at the 2016 election map, at this point in time it is exactly the same. Coincidence? I think not.

they can't r180. Whatever happens tonight, THAT didn't happen.

It should be said that Trump campaign has some of the most sophisticated "Get Out The Vote" machinery to identify supporters and get them to the polls

Their technology rivals what the Obama team used in 2008 & 2012

NC is too close to call. Not all the votes are in and won't be completed by the end of the night.

MSNBC is saying that in Wisconsin the final votes from Milwaukee won't come in until at least 5 AM.

Oh! The humanity!

Florida is a big win for Trump. Bigger than expected so that’s quite the downer.

Trump is leading in NC and Florida. This is looking bad. My heart is broken.

Jesus Fuck, everyone stop deciding who won, what it all means, where we go from here. Just shut the fuck up about what you have no idea about you stupid cunts.

We’re toast, girls. Biden can’t carry all of MI, WI, and PA.

And now Putin won. Just shut the fuck up, whores.

Where's John Hinkley when you need him?

What really sucks is these "Blue Wall" states take longer than fuck to count their votes. Didn't these bitches know the whole country would be waiting? CHOP CHOP!

Dump took Missouri

Why not admit Trump is popular and doesn’t need Putin to win. It’s sucks but it’s true,

Florida is gone. Get over it. NC still has large dem areas that still have votes to report. Calm the eff down.

Missouri was always expected to go red.

Pundits: "This is gonna be a 1980-style Democratic bloodbath!" "No, it's gonna be a 1960-style Democratic bloodbath!"

All of you, from now on, shut the fuck up!

Guys- At this point it (in my mind only) it appears 60/40 in Trumps favor. If we lose this. For me, it brings me some peace. NO more illusions and no more judging or believing in others to make myself feel better. 1/2 of this country is officially FUCKED. But evil never wins, ultimately. I think MLK said that "the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice."

I believe that. But I will no longer trust this country or anyone but myself. I am going to have to find peace in nature and the simple things.

That's my personal goal. I am going to bed tonight at peace that a truly evil man has been reelected president. That will not affect how I treat others. But any hope I had outside of myself is gone. Even if we win. But I refuse to judge these folks who voted this guy in. They will not exist in my world. Done with CNN. Done with being drawn in to any of Trump's latest gaffes, evil, offensive quotes, or his collective pig of a family.

They don't exist. What a journey. 2024- Maybe by then, this country will finally have suffered enough to find another way. Again, even if we win- this race being THIS close is mind boggling to me. Let's see what tomorrow brings..

That would be picked up in the polling R212.

Look, either pretty much every single poll in the United States is using flawed methodology despite years of work, experience and tweaking, or there's something irregular going on with the vote.

Pollsters and pundits were telling us for weeks that we just have 2016 PTSD and the polling is trustworthy. We're seeing the polls were wrong. Again.

They were wrong in 2016 because of cheating and hacking. Any chance that's not the case this time, too?

R168, I will be joining you. Xanax time.

Who needs Russia? The Republicans have been suppressing the vote for decades

WTF is going on hold me David concerned team wtf mom etc.

because he isn't r224. Never have a majority of Americans actually said they like him. Whatever he is, he ain't popular. Nobody rational can believe that. Nobody not paid to believe that.

What Maricopa results look like right now.

I have european citizenship, if trump wins because of the electoral college again Im dumping the american citizenship. I cant be a citizen of a country that is not a democracy.

I felt in my gut we were headed for a 2016 repeat but with Trump losing Penn and Michigan. That could still happen.

You need to find some place else, R218. If DL is getting on your nerves that much, just go to Twitter or something.

[quote] I just took ANOTHER Xanax.

Don't take too many Xanax. You might not wake up until tomorrow afternoon.

Yes, Arizona is important.

R233, you don't have to like someone to do your dirty work.

fuck you r237. ain't nobody going anywhere, and ain't nobody accepting a stolen election this time.

Between the MJ Hegar and Amy McGrath asswhippings, Democrats need to learn that we need less Dyke-adjacent military ladies and more attractive white straight liberal Beto-types.

If he wins the us as a world power and a country people actually want to be in is over.

[quote]Never have a majority of Americans actually said they like him. Whatever he is, he ain't popular. Nobody rational can believe that.

He's widely disliked, incompetent, literally harming and killing people, and we're supposed to believe he's just like all super popular n stuff.

He's not.

Suburbs in PA are looking very promising for Biden as he is currently beating Clinton's numbers by a massive margin and turnout is there. I think he will win it. Shame that these mid west states take longest to count.

CNN calls NEW HAMPSHIRE for BIDEN

[quote]It should be said that Trump campaign has some of the most sophisticated "Get Out The Vote" machinery to identify supporters and get them to the polls

It has been well document, including in Part 1 of this thread, that the opposite is true; the Orange campaign is a big 'ol mess.

[quote] There are still 2.2m mail ballots to be counted in PA - about 87% of the total.

[quote] Settle in.

[quote]Jesus Fuck, everyone stop deciding who won, what it all means, where we go from here. Just shut the fuck up about what you have no idea about you stupid cunts.

[Pulls out gun, inserts in mouth and shoots himself]

I said NOTHING about accepting a stolen election, R240, so fuck yourself, you psychopathic troll. I'm tired of lonely losers like you stirring up shit in threads just to get attention.

well, of course that is different from popular r239. And then the question becomes, why did such an unpopular president wind up president, if he did this time?

So what will the gang at Five Thirty Eight be doing for a living after this week?

Dems maintain control of House

Also Biden is leading in DL's favourite America's suburb- Bucks County now.

The only things we are really know so far is Biden won't win in a landslide but might still win and Democrats will retain control of the House of Representatives. Everything else is still undecided.

Collins has a huge lead in Maine with 28% of the vote in.

I'm worried, too, but isn't this turning out like people have been warning it would for weeks? Election day vote itself would make it look like a trump win, but then early votes and absentee ballots get counted and Joe gets his votes?

My small shoreline town in CT went 4800-2900 for Biden. Hillary won here in 2016 by 300 votes. White people are going for Biden in big numbers which we’ve seen elsewhere. He’s got this in the upper Midwest.

It's over isn't it?

Trump performing more strongly tonight than expected.

However, it looks like Biden is doing well in Arizona, Minnesota and New Hampshire. 3 places where Hillary underperformed in 2016.

Some are already starting to call the Arizona senate race for Mark Kelly.

Biden and Kelly looking VERY good in Arizona.

If people didn’t like Trump, Biden would win in a landslide. Trump is doing as well or better than in 2016. Face reality. It’s ugly but necessary.

God bless Arizona.

Is Georgia still in play? Nate Siver’s site:

Thinking about Georgia, Trump has a slight upper hand, at least according to The New York Times needle. With 55 percent of the expected vote in, the Times gives him about a 4 in 5 shot of carrying the Peach State. But the good news for Biden is that he still has a chance, probably thanks to the shifts we’re seeing in the Atlanta metro area. Suburban/exurban counties such as Cherokee, Fayette and Newton all have 95 percent or more of their expected vote reporting, and in each, Biden has improved on Clinton’s margin by 11 to 12 points

declaring Trump the winner, in all your reluctance, is precisely about accepting a stolen election r249, you dumb cunt.

Biden doesn't need to win all of the states that were polling at light blue, just one.

Trump has to win all of the states polling red, all of the states polling light blue, plus at least one state polling medium blue.

This isn't over yet.

We'll all be dead of COVID in a year or two.

nothing is decided r261. Your eagerness to "accept" it is because you are the kind of stupid cunt that actually likes Trump

[quote]But evil never wins, ultimately. I think MLK said that "the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice."

If Trump is re-elected after 232,000 COVID deaths due to his negligence and ignorance, evil does win.

[quote]Don't take too many Xanax. You might not wake up until tomorrow afternoon.

Yes, please.

Georgia only has about 60% of the vote reported, we don't know what type of vote is still to be counted. Whether it is absentee or urban or rural.

Go to 270towin. If Biden gets AZ, and the rest of Clinton states, he just barely wins with NE district, all of ME, and 2 of the 3 Clinton lost. Trump still has an uphill climb.

r265 No one knows what you're talking about because every site's map is different.

As David Chalian said on CNN, much of the early (eg. pro-Biden vote) is not in yet in MI, WI or PA.

[quote]If people didn’t like Trump, Biden would win in a landslide.

No, what you're saying is "if EVERYONE hated Trump, Biden would win in a landslide."

No one is saying everyone hates him. We all know Deplorables, QAnoners, racists, that kind of person loves him. And it looks like there is a serious problem in our country with far-right conspiracy fascists winning elections at the state level. It's a huge problem.

But Trump has never had an approval rating above 48%, with the exception of the day he was inaugurated when he was at 51%. Less than half the country approves of him, and it's more often closer to 60% of the country not liking him.

Most of the GA vote still to be counted is Atlanta where most of the votes are. Hmmmm. Funny. What’s kemp up to?

[quote]Trump performing more strongly tonight than expected.

Nope. You can't point to one state or even county where he is doing better than he did in 2016. He is doing worse everywhere.

It is amazing the Trump is so resilient after all the investigations, accusations, press, and protests. Folks, should he win, the next four years will not be good and he will be emboldened.

Damn. Biden is down in NE-2. That is not a good sign at all.

CBS officially projecting that Arizona is "leaning" towards Biden.

[quote] well, that is certainly not definitive [R159]. Whatever happens, it is certainly not true that you can establish tonight based purely on the vote whether there was tampering.

Most of America HATES black people, lesbians, sentimental liberals, Latinos, Asians and Jews. The average straight white American looks at those people and think: “that’s not me. That’s not us. They’re not Americans.”

This result, for better or worse, reveals Americans for who they are.

"If he wins the us as a world power and a country people actually want to be in is over."

Just the stupid people from Great Britain wanting to live in the US would fill a state.

So far Biden is at +11 in ARIZONA and Kelly is at +10 in ARIZONA.

The expectation was that Kelly would outperform Biden, but so far they are running equally well in AZ.

A reporting error in North Carolina falsely gave Trump more votes than he really had.

Again, guys, it's not over.

it's already not good r277. More than half, or nearly half the country is profoundly stupid and actually likes the stupidest, most fucked up, most grifty, most needy, most ridiculous president in American history. Whatever happens tonight, and we can still dodge a bullet, there is a bullet and it is pretty large and crazy.

It really bothers me that a lot of Trump voters think most Democrats are child sex traffickers, satan worshipers, and communists. So they support Trump. You should have to be a rational thinking person to vote.

R276 He's beating the levels the polls universally set in the last month. It sucks.

Biden will get over 270... but this is going to be a mess with Trump and the crazies claiming that he should have won, challenge votes etc.

It's definitely not over r283, far from it. Biden could definitely still win, hope is not lost.

I think people are depressed that this is such a close race though.

[quote]A reporting error in North Carolina falsely gave Trump more votes than he really had.

Da. Let's call it "ripporting errer."

The country is very divided, and this was ALWAYS going to be a very close race. So far nothing has changed from 2016, except Biden is ahead in Arizona, which is good. This is going to come down to a few counties in Pennsylvania that determine the winner.

[quote]Biden is down in NE-2. That is not a good sign at all.

Actually it is. It's virtually tied now, a few hundred votes separating, and it's all votes from today, which should favor Trump, but Biden is holding his own.

No early voting accounted for yet. That favors Biden.

Well that's been an old joke for decades, r285. someone yelled out to Adlai Stevenson in the 1950s: "You have the vote of every decent, thinking American, Sir." He yelled back: "Thanks, but I need a majority."

I just truly don’t understand how anyone could like Trump. Even if you’re a racist piece of shit you can still do better than Trump.

LEE DRUTMAN

NOV. 3, 10:46 PM

As we watch the results tonight, it’s important to keep in mind that in any other presidential democracy, this would not be a particularly close election. The only thing making this election so close is the Electoral College. Similarly, the only thing making the Senate so close is the small-state bias. If Trump ekes out an Electoral College victory, it will be the third time in six elections that a Republican has won the Electoral College and the presidency while losing the popular vote. Republicans have won the popular vote only once since 1988. And Republican senators have represented a majority of Americans only for one Congress in the past 40 years, despite having a Senate majority more than half that time.

Yeah, the people who were predicting a blowout were being way too optimistic. This was always going to be close.

West coast polls close in around five minutes.

GA and PA just said won't be counting a lot of the ballots today AT ALL. So GA and PA is not going to be called tonight.

ARIZONA counting seems to have stopped at 75% for a while now.

What’s China up to? They’re involved in this too. Those Miami numbers are SKETCH

So true going to destroy some of the ballots overnight. I get it.

So *they’re

Bullock (D) leading so far in the Montana Senate race. 25% in.

R293, the only platform the Repugs have is "own the libs." That's it. They're all about trolling and selling merch and posting stupid memes on Facebook. That's it.

[quote] To those who voted for Donald, your "president" is directly responsible for the deaths over 230,000 of your fellow citizens, as well as the kidnapping and caging of innocent children. That's what you voted for.

was that padding that Nate caught in the red country really and accident? or the first of many to be uncovered in rural areas?

Well, there goes any future caring about hurricanes damaging the Gulf Coast states.

Might as well change our name to Qamerica.

Team Trump has the fix in, in PA, I fear. Seven Red counties have stated they will not begin counting their mail-in ballots until Wednesday. Maybe to wait to see how many more Trump needs by midnight tonight?

So many gullibles. So many racists. So many thugs. So many ignoramuses.

It was more than Republicanism's being "all a lie." AMERICA has been, and is, all a lie. A child's mythology.

Four more years of having the truth called fake. Of science called a hoax. Of reporters called the enemies of the people and neo-Nazis called fine people.

I was prepared to shout from my porch, "There IS a God!"

Yeah, no. Jokes ain't funny right this hour.

Biden is also holding very well in Iowa!!!

Good to hear PollTroll. There do seem to be positive signs in the Senate still. This is a frustrating night, but nobody knows that it won't be exactly what we hoped for in the end.

[quote]He's beating the levels the polls universally set in the last month

There are no universal polls for the swing states There were always some showing Trump winning FL, GA, TX, IA, etc. And some showing Biden ahead. And a lot had a difference between the two that was within the margin or error.

He is not overperforming; Biden is doing better than Clinton did in all those places, which is a good sign for WI, MI, PA, AZ, etc.

Happened in two counties apparently, R304, and I'm not sure it was an accident either.

Arizona opens with such a big lead for Biden that it'll take a lot for Trump to win it.

At least if the Orange Fuck wins, suddenly dying of Covid-19 doesn't seem so bad anymore.

So once we get CA, HI, OR, NV, and WA in, and they all go blue, that's 84 EV. AZ would get it to 95. Adding that to all the states called for Biden so far (including MN and NH, even though AP hasn't called them yet) we get to 240. So where's the best place for him to get 31 more EV?

[quote]Biden is also holding very well in Iowa!!!

Yes, if Biden can keep Iowa close and not lose it by as much as Hillary, it could bode well for Biden in Michigan, Wisconsin & Pennsylvania.

[quote] Decision Desk HQ Projects Hyde-Smith (R) Has Won Election To The Senate From The State Of MS

R309, what’s this about padding?

NBC just gave CA, OR and WA to Biden

Jon Ossoff lost to that piece of shit david perdue who when he found out about Covid from Trump immediately sold stocks in entertainment type companies and invested in PPE companies and a vaccine manufacturer. Then he told the public the virus was no big deal

Jon Ossoff kicked david perdue's ass off during the debate. And people still voted for perdue. georgia deserves only shitty things

I've said many times, the people in Georgia are proud of their ignorance and wear it like a badge of honor

R316, CNN also called CA, OR & WA for Biden.

Not that it counts for much, but were they showing Montana going blue?

I think a Dem won for senator in NM.

hope so Poll Troll, hope even more we get less boding well, and more actual winning.

Dump got Idaho

Ron Brownstein on Arizona:

In AZ, Biden combined margin in Maricopa & Pima is 260k. They each have b/twn 1/4 & 1/5 of vote still out. Trump is leading in Pinal & Yuma but by narrow margins. Is there some place for Trump to get the votes unless there's a radical shift in which votes are left in MAR/PIMA?

I don't think anyone had either Montana or Idaho going blue, they were always polling red.

If Biden wins AZ, MN, WI, and MI, that gets him up exactly 270, I think.

oh fuck that sucks r317. That is just pathetic. Talk about wishing for your own death and your own corrupt government. Jesus Fuck, Georgia, why are you so fucking stupid?

It's been real, but my bed is calling.

I hope to wake up to a better world.

Good night, bitches!! Don't lose hope yet!

The NM Senate winner another Democrat.

Right now we have 216 EV for Biden, 125 for Trump, and still 197 undecided.

Georgia, Florida, and Texas are too close to call. Think about that.

Lot of white people voting for Biden. Lot of non-college people voting for Biden. Lot of men voting for Biden.

That is NM Senate winner is a replacement of another Democrat. No gain.

Oh stop all the angst. The map means NOTHING now!

Most of the votes haven’t even come in in most of the swing states. Most won’t even be counted fully for 2-3 days.

We won’t get a definitive answer tonight.

Lemme guess, Georgia, fucking guns, you fucking cunts. Punch yourself in the dick 500 times in penance for asking for covid to sweep over your state.

What’s with the missing votes in Fairfax Virginia?

Too bad about Georgia. It’s going to be tough for Dems to take over the Senate. Ugh.

Arizona is virtually vacant apart from Maricopa, Pima, Pinal and Yuma counties. Arizona will stay Biden. Arizona is less concentrated than NV, as the majority of Nevada lives in just one county.

r329, Biden's only 54 electoral votes away from winning this thing.

Republicans in Pennsylvania are claiming that the Secretary of State has undermined trust in the counting process!

[quote] NEWS: Republican leaders in the Pa. Senate are calling on Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar to resign immediately, citing changing guidance from the Department of State.

Pennsylvania’s mail-in votes aren’t going to be counted for several days, so we are not going to have an answer until then.

r325 John King just did that exact scenario and I think that will end up being the path.

But this is not getting called tonight, that's for sure.

Biden leading by about 10 points in Nebraksa's 2nd District.

WI, MI, PA haven’t even begun to report yet. All democrat won. All states Biden is up by a lot in in the polls. All states with white voters which by all indications are swinging hard to Biden.

I feel fine. We won’t know tonight. But I feel fine. Biden is going to win. That NH call at 10:30 was huge. White people love biden.

the electoral college must be completely eliminated. it is a shame that a country that brags to be the best democracy in the world can have such a fraud in the system.

The South is garbage. Florida, Georgia, Texas, South Carolina. All of it trash.

Democracy is a very depressing thing. I guess it always has been, but damn, in the past 50 years in this country, it has gotten more and more depressing.

Yes in Pennsylvania and Michigan we aren't going to know the winner tonight. Its going to take a couple days.

Democracy requires a well-educated populace.

[quote] U.S. Rep. Sharice Davids, D-Kansas, one of nine openly LGBTQ people currently in Congress, has won re-election.

[quote]That NH call at 10:30 was huge.

Biden is certainly doing better in New Hampshire than Hillary did. She won it by less than 1%.

Wasn’t a a QAnon person elected to Congress tonight after Trump endorsed her? Americans are really stupid. I think the Republicans will start using these QAnon tactics to arrest, intimidate and silence people - they will accuse people of being pedophiles etc, Minorities and women are screwed.

I imagine Trump told Putin to make sure he wins the popular vote this time.

Not to belabor this, but goddammit, Black Georgians, David Perdue, Cunt of the Universe, is your Senator. You down with that? Why?

Trump won those sates by 78k COMBINED. Biden is going to win. And trumps court shenanigans will all be for moot.

White people are helping win this for Biden. Democrats need to remember that the next time BLM starts making “demands”.

This is shaping up to be the year 2000, with Pennsylvania as Florida.

Poll Troll won't talk to me, but he's giving me life tonight. Love the Poll Troll.

[quote]Democracy requires a well-educated populace.

That's what Fox News is for!

Biden is at 245EV now, so he MUST win MI and WI in order to fight off whatever GOP is going to do in PA to steal this election.

David French’s new book sets out “disaster” scenarios where the nation splits up. It sounds fantastic, actually.

The senate sucks but sorry, I want Trump out. I want him gone. I don’t give a fuck if nothing gets done in two years. I want trump GONE. That’s my goal. The senate we can get in 2022

Right now, per AP's calls, not a single Senate or House pickup.

Yes R350, Marjorie Taylor Greene, she's legitimately mentally ill.

Also that Nazi frat boy Madison Cawthorne won, he's the guy who has taken vacations to see the places his hero Hitler lived and worked in.

In PA Trump is slightly ahead but that is today’s voting. Now they’re counting the mail in ballots, right?

Can anyone imagine a Democratic President having many members of his campaign and White House staff convicted of felonies, 230,000 people die of a deadly virus that other countries have under control, tell over 20,000 lies, embrace White Supremacists, Russia and N. Korea, refuse to release his taxes, refuse to accept results of an election, get impeached, and still be competitive for reelection?

We like to blame Republicans but there are more registered Democrats than there are Republicans. Too many Democrats want the perfect candidate or they won't vote for them and instead elect a much worse Republican.

Midwest is going to take a while.

[Quote]Detroit, Philadelphia and Milwaukee all planning to post vote counts tomorrow as they work through absentee backlog.

Midwest is going to take a while.

[Quote]Detroit, Philadelphia and Milwaukee all planning to post vote counts tomorrow as they work through absentee backlog.

Oh, yeah, can't say you're wrong r360, but goddammit, want the Senate too. Can't have that shit with Obama not able to get perfectly normal shit done because of a Senate full of cunts. Not wanting that.

Yes r363. You are seeing primarily election day vote in PA.

r365 Pennsylvania is not in the Midwest.

Georgia's largest county (Fulton County, Atlanta) says a burst pipe has delayed (but not harmed) absentee votes at a processing center (State Farm Arena - big facility)

The republicans kicked the dems asses in Georgia

[quote]Yes in Pennsylvania and Michigan we aren't going to know the winner tonight. Its going to take a couple days.

Without those two states, we don’t know who wins the election. So yes, a couple days or more.

[quote]Biden is at 245EV now

Where are you getting that from? I only have him at 219. Are you giving him NV and AZ?

Biden isn't at 245 EVs yet.

[quote]Biden has 209 EVs. NV+AZ+MI+MN+ME1= 45, gets Biden to 254 (all looking good). All it takes is PA, or WI+ME2+ one more. NC could do it. This is so, so much better than 2016. There are many paths left. This ain’t over. Get some sleep.

Where does anyone see Perdue claiming victory? AP says only 66% of the vote counted.

And didn't Fulton county have a flood?

Greenfield leading Cunti Ernst in Iowa with over half reporting.

Future Congresswoman from Georgia:

"Marjorie Taylor Greene, from Georgia, is among the QAnon supporters with the best chance of winning in November. She has also been the most strident with her beliefs. 'Q is a patriot,' Greene said in 2017, referring to her belief in the conspiracy theory’s anonymous online poster who claims to have knowledge of a secret ring of powerful, deep-state sex-traffickers and pedophiles, and is said to be a part of the Trump administration. 'He is someone that very much loves his country and is on the same page as us, and he is very pro-Trump. He appears to have connections at the highest levels.'"

Thanks, r368, that bodes very well for Biden!

Iowa is surprisingly strong.

Hi, R356. Best wishes. : )

I am not getting Virginia, Trump has a 100,000 vote lead, most of the Democratic areas are reporting 100% of the vote, yet they are giving the state to Biden. What am I missing?

r373 Did you add HI (4EV)

BTW, the needle is shifting towards Biden in GA and NC.

r363 Pam Brown on CNN just said PA officials are just starting to count mail in ballots, and they have hundreds of thousands of them. She also said PA is new to mail in absentee ballots, unlike other states who have theirs counted even before election day. So in other words, this is about to be a shit show in PA. It may be next week before those bitches get done.

[quote] Georgia won't be decided tonight, even with partial reporting from Atlanta coming in the next few hours (which will narrow the margin a good bit).

[quote] Large counties -- Fulton & Gwinnett & Dekalb -- have said they won't be counting tens of thousands of votes until tomorrow

Thanks Poll Troll, now I'm Being Needy. Sorry, but it's appreciated. I'm in a damn mood, and a damn state.

You are missing the roughly 2.7 million early votes that are coming in after election day results.

Keep in mind, so far Trump hasn't flipped one expected 2016 blue state, but BIden may very well flip a red 2016 one soon; Arizona.

For r380.

Trump is WAY ahead in PA with 45% of the vote counted, so I hope those uncounted ballots are heavily blue.

How many EVs is California?

Hold on, everybody. Just hold on.

How is Michigan going? Is it the same story with mail in ballots being counting now?

55

55 beautiful electoral college votes r390.

And they all went to Biden tonight.

Was dump expected to get Utah?

Pennsylvania looks catastrophic.

Geez, James Carville was on MSNBC last night saying Biden would win, TX would flip and it would all be over by 10pm. He even said, “I put my reputation on it”.

I feel like I’m in the Twilight’s Zone.

Michigan counted election day votes first, then early votes r392. So the initial count was expected to be more Republican.

Michigan and Wisconsin both said they won't have results tonight. Michigan said it will need until Friday.

R392, very slow, they only starting to count early votes.

BTW, Peters appears to be in big trouble in MI. So another Dem senate seat is in real danger.

r395. Mormon land? Absolutely.

R395 Sadly, yes.

Yes R395, that's not a surprise result.

[quote]I am not getting Virginia, Trump has a 100,000 vote lead, most of the Democratic areas are reporting 100% of the vote, yet they are giving the state to Biden. What am I missing?

All the people who didn't vote at a polling place today in the middle of a pandemic.

I just saw on the Yahoo web page that Biden currently has 209 electoral votes and Trump only has 118 even though Trump has about a million more popular votes.

[quote]Trump is WAY ahead in PA with 45% of the vote counted, so I hope those uncounted ballots are heavily blue.

The vote counted so far is only in-person from today. The uncounted ballots are all early in-person and mail-in. There are tons of them and they are expected to be heavily Democratic.

Again, PA counted election day votes first r397. You gotta have patience. Most early votes won't even start to be counted til tommorow.

MI, WI, and PA will be SLOW to report. It’s been said for a month. Am I the only one who has been paying attention?

It's never been so quiet in my household. The dog is wondering what the hell is going on.

Fox calls Arizona for Biden

Fox calls Arizona for Biden

Virginia is now counting the mail-in ballots, which are leaning heavily Biden. That's why it's called for Biden.

[quote]VIRGINIA — The absentee and early votes get reported as a single precinct in each county. When Loudon Co. reported theirs, it flipped to a 2-1 Biden lead. Same thing will happen in Fairfax, Richmond, Norfolk, etc. The state will end up blue.

Florida's vote count was arranged in Moscow. Complete fraud from soup to nuts.

That’s great news!!!!!!

Hold me Arizona! Hold me!

We got Arizona!

Guys, I think we're going to be okay.

Whoa. Fox calling AZ for Biden

Well, so far, just based on votes counted, over 50 million of your fellow Americans have voted for one of the worst human beings ever to walk the planet. How does that make you feel?

There seriously needs to be a series of hits over the next month. McConnell, Graham, Collins, Perdue, Gaetz and that fucking cunt ACB. How is it so many dems over the years have been assassinated and barely any Repubs? We have no fucking balls.

[quote]I just saw on the Yahoo web page that Biden currently has 209 electoral votes and Trump only has 118 even though Trump has about a million more popular votes.

Trump will get Florida and Texas which will give him a beg electoral vote boost.

Biden just has to hold the blue wall now and he will be the next president of the USA.

It appears that Bullock WON'T win in Montana. Senate is slipping away.

Sorry for the double post

What's going on in Montana?? Is it possible?

R385, I'm feeling a bit nervous myself tonight. Closer election than the pols predicted.

Cheers. : )

Biden winning Arizona really opens things up for him. Don't lose the faith people.

Weird that we get the good news about Arizona and suddenly it's "the Senate is lost! Millions love Trump, don't you feel BAD about it?!"

Some of you need to fuck the hell off.

[quote]It's been real, but my bed is calling. [quote]I hope to wake up to a better world.

Atta' girl.

(I don't even want to wake up tomorrow.)

With 30% counted, Biden has double the number of votes of Trump in CA. (3.4 mill vs. 1.6 mill.)

As someone said on one of these stations.... there is an international trends of the working class, lower educated, who are left behind and pissed off about the "elites" .. trending to fascism. It happened in the 1930s, right?

But Biden will still win this... just unfortunately it's going to be close.

Yeah r419, I've wondered about that myself.

Thank you Californians who moved to Arizona!

Please note that ONLY Fox is calling AZ

damn, I'm starting to think it's Biden. Not sure, never sure, we all went through 2016 and will never really recover, but damn, I think, kinda hope. I think it's Biden.

MN, MI, and WI and he wins. Don’t need PA.

Mark Kelly beat McSally!

Once you throw in California votes, Trump will be way behind in the popular vote

Trump winning Wisconsin. Poor Biden and poor us.

Joe pulls ahead in the popular vote

R437, nobody gives shit about popular vote.

Texas was always a dream. There’s a reason Biden didn’t go there despite Beto’s queening out. Biden was always focused on 270. Thank god.

No NV results yet? Another state that should be turned blue by Californians.

Yeah the popular vote didn't win Hilary shit

[quote] It appears that Bullock WON'T win in Montana. Senate is slipping away.

I'll say it again: NOTHING has happened outside of mainstream polling. NOTHING.

It may feel bleak because we were optimistic of a landslide, but the reason the bad news is flooding in early is because it was predicted to happen anyway and we were choosing to be positive.

Still on track to win the White House, Senate and House.

Trump doesn’t care about the popular vote. He barely cares about the Electoral College. He’s not democratic, at all, in any sense of the word.

R438, that’s with none of the big cities yet.

We're fucked. 4 more years of the orange idiot.

Biden has now flipped a Trump red state from 2016 (Arizona). That's significant people.

No one gives a shit about the popular vote? Well, why even bother voting

[quote]I just saw on the Yahoo web page that Biden currently has 209 electoral votes and Trump only has 118 even though Trump has about a million more popular votes.

You are seeing projected Electoral College votes. But not all the popular votes from there. Those millions have not been counted yet--the polls just closed in the west. Remember in 2016, California's popular vote totals weren't known until the second week of December. And many places, as you know, are still counting early votes or mailed votes or polling-place votes.

The popular vote isn't real accurate now, and won't match the Electoral College votes.

thanks r444. Jeebus, does it really need saying on this site: Don't be such a goddamn MARY!!!

I think these election threads are the dumbest threads I’ve ever seen on Datalounge. I’m guessing useless trolls have run off all of the usual talent. Sad.

Ignore the doomsayers and the faux suicidalists.

This was always going to be close. There were a ton of toss-up states and we don't know where they stand -- some counted early votes already, some haven't started yet.

Don't pay attention to MI, WI, and PA votes. They skew heavily GOP because these states haven't even touched all early ballots.

But watch out for GA, it may surprise like AZ.

Louis Jacobson (Cook Political Report):

Still early in PA, but FWIW, in Lackawanna Co. (Scranton, Biden's ancestral home), Biden is leading Trump by 9. Clinton beat Trump by 3.5 points in 2016. Also, with most votes counted, Biden's raw votes in the county increased from 51,000 to 61,000.

[quote]Well, why even bother voting

If you're not in a swing state, there really isn't that much point.

GA-2 is officially in run off Warnock vs. Loeffler.

[quote]Also, with most votes counted, Biden's raw votes in the county increased from 51,000 to 61,000.

Raw votes? Sounds kinky.

Is this the same Bill Weir with the crooked nose who did all that reporting from Afghanistan?

I'm watching various live stream tv and cable networks election results shows.

While the focus and attention is most definitely on the incoming results - the mood and language used has changed ever so slightly. In an imperceptive way, the conversation is now turning to who hasn't voted when certain results were expected, why Biden hasn't carried various states which he was thought to be able to and why Dump voter turn out has been larger and more tenacious than polls projected... There are quite a few exit poll interviews with voters.

Based on past experience and what I can see directly in front of me - I'm calling it now.

> Trump will be returned for 4 more years by a slim margin possibly not a slim margin.

> Biden will possibly win the popular vote (but that means little to nothing when the election is decided on electoral college votes).

> Dems have the house already at least - Pelosi has announced.

> GOP will control the senate.

> Final results will take days to be collated but those will be the results.

I would be very happy to be completely wrong, but basically it's 2016 all over again. This is who America is folks. The American people have shown their true colors.

That's all.

Again, am I the only one who has been paying attention? We won’t know shit from the “blue wall” until at least 5am, from PA nothing for a few days. I’m patient. I just want Biden to win.

Good for GA-2!

There is PLENTY of reason to vote no matter what state you're in! Local and state-level elections are hugely important.

Don't pull that "don't bother voting unless you're in a swing state" crap, that's not true. Stop discouraging voting.

Ernst wins as well. FUCK!!!

you actually don't know what the fuck you are talking about, do you, r460? But thanks for the That's all.

This just isn't the blow out or landslide we were all hoping it would be, but don't give up, it's far from over and Biden can still win this.

[quote]There seriously needs to be a series of hits over the next month. McConnell, Graham, Collins, Perdue, Gaetz and that fucking cunt ACB. How is it so many dems over the years have been assassinated and barely any Repubs? We have no fucking balls.

They did shoot that Scalise guy a couple years ago.

Michigan has over 3 million absentee votes. Could take a while.

Nate Silver should be TARRED AND FEATHERED in the town square tomorrow. Fuck him. Biden 89% chance my ass. Polling died tonight.

[quote]How is it so many dems over the years have been assassinated and barely any Repubs?

yEsh! YEsh! ! yirdh kzrs T hXs!

Raphael Warnock and Kelly Loeffler are headed to a runoff in Georgia

With AZ, Biden needs

PA + WI

PA + MI

PA + IA + (NE02 or ME02)

MI + WI + (NE02 or ME02)

NC + PA

NC + MI

NC + MI + NE02 + ME02

r467, for all the good it did.

Biden is now ahead of Trump in the popular votes!

Well, Republicans and Russian bots have decided. It's Trump and a Republican Senate.

I dont want to jinx it but if Biden won Arizona he is still LIKELY to win this r466.

So far all of those "close" Senate races that everyone threw money at have been a huge bust. Welcome back Senatrice, Possum-Wig, Concern-Bitch, et. al.

[quote]Please note that ONLY Fox is calling AZ

Maricopa County went completely blue; that's like 3/4ths of the state.

Folks, it's likely that Biden will win. But we may not know tonight. Time to breathe and count your blessings.

r472 You're assuming he gets HI and NV, I guess?

Lol I’m so glad Doug Collins lost. He got every convicted from the trump admin to endorse him. Kelly is a nasty cunt rag but still.

Am I reading this correctly that because DeJoy can't cough up missing ballots his buddy is barred by court order from claiming victory?

[quote] PA says they won't be done counting until Friday. Fulton Co GA won't be done counting till Friday. @USPS has lost almost 300,000 ballots that a federal judge demands they discover. No one can declare victory tonight. Or even tomorrow. Probably not until next week

I don't understand how anyone can call this race when it's so tight

Thank god Arizona. I will never disparage them again, despite the fact that their state will basically be uninhabitable in ten years.

Is Arizona enough? I’m a wreck about the midwest after losing Florida and NC.

Since when is Hawaii a swing state r480?

I'm seeing a lot of comments on Twitter that major cities like Detroit, Milwaukee and Philadelphia won't have votes counted for days. Those are big blue strongholds.

Didn't we know by this time in 2016? I know there are more variables in this election, I'm just asking.

Trump getting 43% of the vote in Detroit!

Got 29% in 2016!

What is happening?!

DeJoy has to go to prison.

r485 I didn't say it was a swing state--just that it hasn't been called yet.

Somebody push this Nazi cunt down the Capitol steps

R480 that's not me, that's the guy I linked to, and he does indeed assume HI and NV.

Biden pulling this out, resulting in Dump's almost immediate SDNY indictment January 20th, makes up for not getting the senate.

"They did shoot that Scalise guy a couple years ago."

I love that this is the silver lining because whenever I get a popup notification on my phone, I think, hopefully, "Breaking News: Trump Shot Dead"

I believe so or I wouldn't have posted it R465.

As I very clearly said - I would be incredibly happy to be wrong but let's just see shall we?

Can someone catch me up... what are the current EC numbers and what are the paths Joe needs now?

The fear about this being so close is that Trump could, and likely would, contest if Biden wins. Then if it goes to the Supreme Court, unless a miracle happens they'd give him the win.

Really hope I'm wrong. :(

We were pretty sure by now in 2016, yes. It's much closer this year plus we have the pandemic causing delays due to absentee ballot counting.

It wasn't official, but we knew Trump was winning by around 1030 in 2016. This election is very different r487.

Put the bottle down, Hillary at R449.

r488, they only counted election day votes which are mostly republicans. No early ballot was counted yet.

Hawaii is a safe blue state R485.

NV and Iowa leading red

I'm disappointed in many of the state race results, but if Biden wins I can live with the other loses.

Whatever path joe has now will certainly stopped by the Supreme Court. Congrats America. Hopefully our allies can save us

r486, Yep, and it's a good bet that most of those votes are probably for Biden.

Now watch, Trump will try to keep those votes from being counted. Little shit ball that he is..

I think people may be confused because didn't FL start with mail in / early votes first and then in-person votes from today?

That Ralston Report Nevada guy is worried about Nevada going red.

Wisconsin will come through. I can feel it.

[quote]Closer election than the pols predicted.

No. Biden is doing better than Clinton in the popular vote in almost every county and state. Trump will lose the popular vote by a larger % than he did last time. That is what national polls were predicting.

r503 NV has 0.4% reporting. Hardly a trend.

Trump takes Ohio

r491, Yeah, he's starting right off being a cunt.

Fuck him and his fascist daddy.

Ohio is a piece of shit. The entire state can drop dead.

r496 see r472

I can not believe how close this race is and I was expecting a tight race.

R507 yes. Florida does that. The southern states do. But the northern states it’s the opposite. In the main 3 states they count very slowly. That’s why everyone is freaking out even tho ALL election officials from those states have been telling us for months to prepare for this.

Can we all just imagine what it would be like if Trump is no longer president and the looks on his supporters faces?

Ralston is NOT worried about NV going red, his final prediction was Biden 49, Trump 45.

NBC said we needed to watch out for Ohio earlier, when Biden was leading. They said the small towns and rural areas were most likely gonna boost Trump. And they did.

Neither NBC nor AP has called AZ yet.

That was expected R512. Historically, carrying Ohio equates to whoever will be the next president.

[quote] Decision Desk HQ Projects Biden (D) Has Won ME-01 And Its 1 Electoral Vote

[quote]It's much closer this year plus we have the pandemic causing delays due to absentee ballot counting.

The first part is incorrect; the second part is not.

I know who won. I just don't know it YET.

Let us pray, r518

Because, r419, nobody truly wealthy and/or powerful cares much to be rid of a Republican.

Reagan was an exception only because John Hinckley's family's friend was the (former CIA Chief and) Vice-President (aka, next in line).

When I saw orange assholes rallies the past two weeks -thousands of rally goers, I knew the polls were fucked up. Those fucking imbecile deplorables who damn near died from being left out in the cold or who heat stroke from being left out in the hot sun -who many said they didn't care they were still voting for Trumpturd- they deserve every fucking thing this Mussolini will do. Fuck this whole election. I hate this country. And don't Mary! me or get the grammar nazi on my illiterate ass. I'm just very worried right now.

[quote]I'm disappointed in many of the state race results, but if Biden wins I can live with the other loses.

No! I want Senate wins too.

I want it now, daddy.

Ohio must win mantra only applies to REPUBLICANS!!

[quote]Didn't we know by this time in 2016? I know there are more variables in this election, I'm just asking.

Yes, because there wasn’t significant Mail-in voting, and Hillary was behind in all 3 of MI, WI, and PA.

It's hard to believe that the last four years and a pandemic have hardly altered our politics. Further, unbelievable that anyone is voting for doing nothing in response to Coronavirus, let alone nearly half of the country. If this was the plot line of a movie or book, no one would think it was a true story.

I am worried about the WI rural vote. It could counter any gains made in the cities.

CNN calls VIRGINIA for BIDEN

Who has called Ohio?

Marijuana now legal in Arizona.

it's nuts, and I am having a crisis r532. Should we ditch democracy? It really seems to suck when there is an actual problem. I don't want to, but should we?

So who won R524

No in person has called anything. Oh my god everyone. Shut the fuck up. We’ve known for months tonight would be like this. We don’t know SHIT until all votes are counted which could take awhile. My god.

Yes, I'm actually amazed that this MANY people are still voting for Orange Menace. I will never understand why nearly half this country votes the way it votes. Never.

I'm sick to my stomach right now

Biden leading Arizona by 9 points with 76% of the vote in.

[quote] I am worried about the WI rural vote. It could counter any gains made in the cities.

Can it? Are there that many voters in rural Wisconsin?

r519 Thank you! It turned out I'd somehow gotten on some Republican guy's Twitter feed and he was posting crap. Sorry everybody!

[quote] Who has called Ohio

The MAGAs. 94% of the vote reported and they are melting down that nobody is calling it for them.

I thought they always hold back the inner city Cleveland vote.

r533, I believe the rural vote was mostly in-person today and already counted, or close to it.

Marijuana also legal in New Jersey.

I need ani use organization to call AZ for Biden beside Fox. Right now, they’re an outlier.

we're being Mary's r539. It's a thing. it's DL.

Another org.

I fear thoujgh that the emphasis on early voting may have coached the republicans' (read Russian) electronic programmers how much they needed to steal.

Why are people raging about polls when many some key states haven't even been called. You will not know if the polls are wrong until the final vote tally. And let's be honest here, no one was planning to get Ohio. We knew Florida was going to iffy and TX was a longshot. GA and NC haven't been called. Just calm down and wait to start blaming until we know the full picture.

Fox is always the first to call a race.

Biden is clearly favored to win Arizona, but other networks are more cautious.

We do not have a real democracy. We have an electoral college.

r517 people talk shit about Florida today and have for years, but the northern states need to take notes about how to count early and absentee votes. Here's a hint; you dont wait until fucking election day. If they followed Florida's method this thing could have been called tonight and we all could sleep peacefully!

NBC just called Ohio for Trump.

Ohio called for trump. Fuck

No problem R544, I noticed a bunch of rightwing shitheads I had blocked on Twitter weren't blocked tonight, like that Roosh guy. I don't know if Twitter is poorly coded or if they were doing that on purpose. Probably both.

[quote]NV and Iowa leading red

They are still voting in Nevada. No numbers released.

[quote]That Ralston Report Nevada guy is worried about Nevada going red.

He's on MSNBC right now and said no such thing.

Milwaukee county will report their votes (around 160,000) once all ballots have been counted. It may not be until 4:00 am - 5:00 am. WI may go for Biden.

I can’t remember if I heard that from CBS, local news, or PBS. I’ve been hitting the vodka hard tonight.

p..s. I’m super pissed with the McConnell and Graham results.

It’s over. Trump won Ohio. He won.

States not yet called by AP:

MT

AZ

MN

MI

PA

WI

OH

ME

NC

GA

TX

NV

NC

IA

AK

HI

Trump will declare victory soon I bet.

Trump winning Ohio was expected. Worry about WI, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

Yes, expect him to come out and celebrate as soon as TX is officially declared for him.

Yeah, I saw a few polls saying Ohio was competitive, but it really wasn't.

No it was not expected. Biden campaign clearly thought they could win Ohio. That’s why Biden went there last night. This is a disaster. Trump won

Champagne has been uncorked in the Kremlin.

[quote]No in person has called anything. Oh my god everyone. Shut the fuck up. We’ve known for months tonight would be like this. We don’t know SHIT until all votes are counted which could take awhile. My god.

That's cute R539. This is what I picture you looking like when saying "Oh my gawd..."

Where’s James carville? I thought we were all going to bed by midnight?

um, why is someone obsessing about James Carville, and not Biden?

[quote] No it was not expected. Biden campaign clearly thought they could win Ohio. That’s why Biden went there last night.

Erie, PA is in the Cleveland media market. It doesn't matter which state you're in if you get the same coverage, so why not go to one first and then spend the rest of the day in the other--which is what he did.

I don't know what the point is of repeatedly posting "everybody shut the fuck up" on a live thread about an election where results are constantly coming in. Why bother? Why even be on this thread in the first place?

Carville on msnbc eating crow right now

New thread, hoping for blue. Its still possible!

Carville: "Put the razor blades and the Ambien away"

CBS News has moved Arizona from Lean Biden to Likely Biden.

CBS News has moved Arizona from Lean Biden to Likely Biden.

Turns out they were all full of shit R574. Same for the polls. All full of shit.

When is Wolf handing over to Lemon?

Trump is going to win.

I'm going to bed.

r559 I know. Somebody up above set me straight. I'd been accidentally reading a Republican twitter feed.

[quote]people talk shit about Florida today and have for years, but the northern states need to take notes about how to count early and absentee votes. Here's a hint; you dont wait until fucking election day. If they followed Florida's method this thing could have been called tonight and we all could sleep peacefully!

Tell that to Pennsylvania’s REPUBLICAN Legislature who prevented the ballots from being counted until today.

Fox just called TX for Trump

James Carville on MSNBC. He said we would be in bed by now. He is still claiming that MI is going to Biden. PA close but will go to Biden and WI will go Biden. He now admits he goes bullish and is always for winning. So guess what....Biden is toast.

Fox News calls Arizona for Biden.

It looks like Atlanta hasn’t been counted yet. Could that be enough votes to turn Georgia blue?

Virginia called for Biden.

Texas was a given. This ain’t over until it’s over.

If Biden wins without Ohio, gone are the days where you needed Ohio to win the White House. The campaigns spend way too much time pandering to that bumfuck state. Its time to move on to places like AZ.

Typical

R595 what?!

r586 that happened about half an hour ago. They're still the only ones who've called it.

Yeah, it’s over. Trumps gonna win. Carville is starting to talk about courts

REpugs cheat like hell, thats how they win....fukkers.

R465?

Care to revisit what you said about me not knowing what the fuck I was talking about????

New thread guys. Don't give up

Guys, the race in Georgia is NOT over. The NYtimes needle is currently predicting a slim Biden win.

Guys, the race in Georgia is NOT over. The NYtimes needle is currently predicting a slim Biden win.

It's done and dusted R597.

no sweetheart, r596. Nothing is happening, that you actually know about. It's okay.

R460 I believe you are correct. Time for bed.

GOD I HATE THIS NIGHT!!!!