Janet Jackson just posted an IG selfie

Her career of lipsyning is impressive.

wood nymph nose and filtered to the M A X ! ! !

She’s beautiful. Always as been. I see u queen!

One of the few (sane) ‘80s pop icons that we have left. She’s glowing.

Is she fat now?

She's an eternal narcissist, nothing else. That's what happens when you sell your soul for human glory.

^Aww, who pissed in your cornflakes this morning?

Who? Must not be cool. I tried googling her but the results said, “No results found.”

She looks good there.

I thought this was an old thread, but it's real! She looks incredible.

Jesus, those cheek implants and whittled down nose.

She’s Muslim now

Is also Janbot?

Glad not everyone here is cult Janet from another planet.

3rd tier 80s relic?

She always had a nice smile. She is weird but she, Jermaine and Rebbie still are the most well-adjusted of the Jacksons. She had work done but never went overboard like La Toya and Michael. I love her music and don't get the hate for her here. Yes I know Janbots are annoying but how is that her fault? Madonna, Gaga and Beyonce fans are equally as annoying.

Janet is such an amazing singer and dancer.

It's Friday night and I'm at home dancing to The Pleasure Principle.

Jealous, bitches??

Her vocals work well for her music. She was never a great singer but I think she has emotional power to her songs. A lot of her music is slow and laidback so the whispering doesn't bother me. A lot of musicians have stylistic types of singing like Britney's vocal fry, Lou Reed's rambling and Mariah's whistling.

Her nose freaks me out...why did people do that in the 80s?!

The 80s where black singers wore powdery foundation and had jheri curls and white singers tanned excessively and also permed their hair. Both to appear more exotic.

Hair is one thing...but these awful noses jobs can’t be undone!

"She's an eternal narcissist, nothing else. That's what happens when you sell your soul for human glory."

There used to be this podcast on iTunes called the "Celebrity Playlist Podcast", where they would get celebrities to make playlists of some of their all-time favorite songs. They would talk about the songs they'd chosen and play snippets of them.

They had some pretty big names...off the top of my head, I recall Dave Grohl, Ringo Starr, Sammy Hagar, Mick Fleetwood, Wilmer Valderrama, Rupaul, Phil Collins, Cee-Lo Green, Ellen Degeneres, and...Janet Jackson.

Of the dozens and dozens of celebrities they had on, Janet Jackson was the only one whose ENTIRE list of songs were ALL SONGS BY HER.

Up to that point, I don't think even one celebrity had ever chosen even one of their own songs, and she chose nothing but her own songs.

I remember listening to this and just thinking. "Wow. This woman is truly insane."

No OP.

It would be easier to name famous people who aren't narcissists than not. I thought Janet was acting crazy for marrying that Arab millionaire and having a child at age 50 and cancelling his tour dates for that pregnancy. She then divorced him and got that money. Seemed greedy and shady. To be normal and to be a Jackson does not exist in the same universe. Joe didn't abuse her but she said he was very cold to her and had her call him "Mr. Joe Jackson" or something like that. She was much younger than the rest of her siblings so she never got to know them that well either. Her relationship with Michael seemed like she worshipped him and didn't know him. Michael seemed fond of Janet because he saw her as a younger female version of himself, he was the biggest narcissist not her.

Struggling to become relevant. And I use the word “become” because she has never been. I don’t even keep up with this kind of shit. But I could easily lay out 20 of her contemporaries with more success, be it financial or artistic

I grew up working in a vinyl/metallic disc shop when she was in her prime. We couldn’t give that shit away. It was pretty much common knowledge that she was more of a campaign than a performer.

Janet was always popular in certain demographics and was mainstream at one point with Rhythm Nation. She did well enough to have two decades of hits. She wasn't as popular as Madonna or Whitney. But doesn't mean she was never popular. Your anecdote is yours but others would beg to differ.

If she wasn't relevant why should even be discussed on this forum to begin with and why would you comment?

Nobody was as popular as Madonna then Whitney. Both were huge stateside but Madonna was on another level worldwide. Next, Celine surprised everybody in the 90s with her US and worldwide success. It goes Madonna, by far, then Celine, then Whitney.

She should have stopped the plastic surgery after here. She thinned her nose too much in the 90s. Toni and Tamar Braxton did the same thing.

I saw her in concert for the Rhythm Nation tour.

Probably the most boring concerts by a major artist I've ever been to.

The music sounded totally canned. They were playing live, but it was all so processed and synthesized, it might as well have been pre-recorded tracks.

And speaking of pre-recorded tracks...Miss Jackson's vocals. Oh, dear. This was the first show I'd ever been to where the artist sang along with a pre-recorded vocal track. It's basically lip-syncing, except they have a live mic and are singing along with the track, so when they go off-key, it's not nearly as noticeable, and it gives them the ability to inject a "wooh!" or "yeah!", which fools a lot of the dullards into thinking that what they're hearing is just her singing live.

I don't know why so many people get fooled by this. To my ears, it always sounds really obvious.

In any case, yeah, super boring show. For all the elaborate choreography and all the smoke machines and lighting effects and what have you, it was totally lacking in energy. The whole experience seemed pre-programmed and fake AF. And this was her at her commercial peak.

R27 I agree with this. Madonna, Celine and Whitney had wide and massive appeal. Mariah debuted too in 1990 and has huge too. All had huge audiences of varying ages and demographics. Janet was still popular with the MTV and R&B/hip-hop crowd and her impact is mostly seen on artists like TLC, Aaliyah, Mya, Brandy, Destiny's Child and Britney Spears.

R29 Well duh! I mean let's be real here. There's no way to sound exactly like your voice would on a CD especially after the production is over. Most of the audience is there to see a performance with choreography and person live. Same reason people went to see New Kids on the Block, Bobby Brown, Paula Abdul, Madonna, Britney, Beyonce, Justin Timberlake, NSYNC, Justin Bieber, Chris Brown and Jennifer Lopez. Michael Jackson also was caught lip-syncing too. Pop stars are performers not artists or musicians, dancing and singing is difficult and your not going to sound as polished as the finished product on the CD. You really can't win here. So being mad about lip-syncing doesn't really make sense.

She’s got the Jackson nose!

Being mad about lip syncing is one thing. MJ did it all the time, egregiously. Yet, Janet didn’t have anything to start with.

[quote] It goes Madonna, by far, then Celine, then Whitney.

Mariah has sold twice as many records as Whitney. And she is just one short from having the most #1s in history on the Billboard Hot 100. Only The Beatles have more at 20 #1s.

Because r26, you can’t stop. And I had to ship her crap back all the time because it didn’t sell. But as a music distributor, it was forced on me. I worked with a diverse group. One of the advantages was being able to take turns picking the music. Nobody played her.

Nobody. Ever.

It’s not an anecdote. Her celebrity was manufactured If you can’t accept that, it doesn’t really matter to me. Just carry on. You don’t understand the industry.

[quote]I grew up working in a vinyl/metallic disc shop when she was in her prime. We couldn’t give that shit away. It was pretty much common knowledge that she was more of a campaign than a performer.

Was this a vinyl record pressing plant? I have no idea what "a vinyl/metallic disc shop" is. I do know that metal plates are used to create vinyl records.

You surely don't mean a record shop? If so WTF is the "metallic" part?!

I worked at two record companies, I worked on ad campaigns for the performers. I've never heard the expression "a vinyl/metallic disc shop".

Ha ha. Driving you nuts. Now you dropped the subject and came at me. And that is always a sign that plate in front of you has your ass in it.

R33 Don’t you dare say she sold twice as much as Whitney. Lie. Mariah cheated at most of those #1s with discounted prices and Mottola payola. Her 18 #1s are almost exclusively forgotten which says it all.

The fake mole is a bit tired.

Is she selling eyeglasses now?

Can you name a single Janet Jackson song? I can't. The theory that she was a manufactured celebrity from the Jackson clan rings true.

And she looks EXACTLY like Michael in tgat pre-surgery photo. Probably why he liked and supported her. He paid for her hobby, basically.

[quote]Nobody was as popular as Madonna then Whitney. Both were huge stateside but Madonna was on another level worldwide.

Rihanna easily outsold both of them. It's not even close.

R42 Link?

Janet has iconic songs like Rhythm Nation, When I Think Of You, That's The Way Love Goes, If, Doesnt Really Matter and All For You.

How is Madonna more relevant than Janet?

Both are more popular with Gen Xers than the younger crowd. Why are these women pitted against each other?

The freak blathering on about working in a metallic vinyl pressing shop or whatever the fuck is clearly a liar. Nobody played her? Bitch, please. From 1986 to 2001, Janet OWNED. Her tours were sold out events, she racked up 10 Hot 100 #1s and too many Top 40 hits to name, and she was MTV royalty. I mean, there’s revisionist history and then there’s the alternate universe of delusion that you’re clearly living in.

[quote] Can you name a single Janet Jackson song? I can't.

Lol! You can’t even lie straight.

[quote] Struggling to become relevant. And I use the word “become” because she has never been. I don’t ev

Bitch, you tried it (and failed).

I love how the ones claiming she’s not relevant, she’s boring, etc., are STILL commenting in a thread about her. A pressed cunt will always be a pressed cunt.

OMG, she’s radiant. Looking at her there and thinking about the tragedy that is now Madonna’s face tells you which woman is happy and well-adjusted and which one is desperate and discontent.

[quote] How is Madonna more relevant than Janet?

She isn’t. The topics on the Rhythm Nation 1814 album alone are more relevant to today’s world than anything Madonna ever put out.

Those intense cheek implants - when those little golf balls start to fall she is going to look so strange.

[quote] Mariah has sold twice as many records as Whitney.

No, not even close. Mariah sold a few million more than Whitney because she had three or four times the catalogue size Whitney did. Whitney never released an album every other year the way Madonna did or every year the way Mariah did.

[quote] How is Madonna more relevant than Janet?

Based on spotify and youtube, Madonna is a lot more relevant than Janet.

Mariah sold only 16 million more than Whitney.

So close.

She must've gained weight.

^Nice try, but no. When Janet gains weight it goes to her face, and her face is pretty slender in the OP pic.

Thank god for those ENORMOUS cheek implants -- otherwise, she'd never keep those glasses on her face with that whittled down nose.

Janet’s recent duet with a Latino artist Made For Now is at 73 million YouTube views and actually made the Hot 100.

Madonna’s recent duet with a Latino artist Medallin is at 48 million YouTube views and didn’t even dent the Hot 100.

Janet’s most recent album sold 253,000 units in the US. Madonna’s only sold 169,000 units in the US.

The ball of relevancy is in Janet’s court.

Is ALSO Janbot??????

R58 Oh, honey, when "managed to crack the Hot 100" is your benchmark for relevancy . . .

Well, darling, when Madonna releases a debut single from a new album and it is met with little interest all over the world and does not even make the Hot 100, then that is a problem. A death knell. Sorry to break your heart and disrupt you fantasies, but...

[quote] The ball of relevancy is in Janet’s court.

If we are basing it on the popularity of their older music on streaming services, Janet is completely irrelevant to everyone.

Made for now was released when Janet was like 50. When Madonna was that age, she released four minutes which still gets 100,000 streams a day on spotify. That's more than any of Janet's songs, even the "classic" ones.

Andrew Lloyd Webber is re-fashioning "Sunset Blvd." for her. He's calling it "Crenshaw Blvd."

54 years old and not a line on her face. Seems legit...

As legit as Michael's nose.....

She looks good, and I say that as somebody who loathes Janbot.

R43, Best-selling female artists in Equivalent Track Sales*:

#1(=) Rihanna – 628M

#2(=) Beyoncé – 427M

#3(=) Taylor Swift – 413M

#4(+3) Ariana Grande – 331M

#5(=) Katy Perry – 327M

#6(-2) Madonna – 322M

#7(-1) Lady Gaga – 307M

#8(=) Adele – 256M

R68 As has been explained a million times, those aren't really *equivalent album sales*. There is a huge difference between having 628 million streams versus selling 322 million physical albums and singles. Beyonce, Rihanna, Taylor Swift, Ariana are popular but to pretend they were ever selling like Madonna, Mariah, Whitney and Celine did is a lie.

R69, 85% of music industry revenue in 2020 is streaming, so I don't understand what your point is? Are you saying that all charts/sales since 2015 are bogus and shouldn't be counted? Should we also limit album/single sales to those sold on vinyl or 8-track cassettes? That seems to be the point you're making. I'm sorry your faves aren't big streaming forces.

R70, uh, no. My point is streams should be weighted lower than physical and digital singles and albums. It took a hell of a lot more effort to physically go to the record store and purhcase a single/album than it does to click on a playlist on spotify. Many times, streaming can be compared to listening to a song on the radio.

[quote]#5(=) Katy Perry – 327M

Talk about someone who had a career fall off a cliff.

Her latest album dropped off the chart quicker than a Madonna album -- and Perry is much younger and was, supposedly, still hot in her career.

R71, Streams ARE weighted lower and always have been. It takes 1250 PAID audio streams, and 3,750 ad-supported streams, to equal an album sale. This chart shows the total worldwide sales when you add in pure sales and adjusted streams.

*Equivalent Track Sales / song units: Career Total TEA+SEA * 10; gives songs their original value back after being converted into Equivalent Album Sales / album units

What's wrong with her nose? It looks absolutely horrific!

One more round of plastic surgery and it's going to fall off - just like her pedophile brother's nose did.

I never liked LaToya's less-talented sister. Too ditzy and mean. The things she did with her husband in the "palace" to those poor dead maids.

Look it up.

And I ain't talking Rebbie.

Compare Janet's rare, yet gorgeous, IG posts to Madonna's embarrassing, desperate and downright hideous constant IG posts tells you everything you need to know about these two women.

[quote]If we are basing it on the popularity of their older music on streaming services

We are basing it on the NOW. Their recent (latest) output. And Madonna fails, every time. Nobody even remembers her latest album, and it fell so fast in the second week that it all but disappeared from the Billboard 200. Her singles went nowhere all over the world, and that disjointed auditorium XLax tour was a fail on every level.

Now have several seats.

When did Bruce Vilanch lose the weight?

Looks like she got fat again.

[quote] And Madonna fails, every time.

If, by every time, you mean once, then OK. Janet's albums were bombing from 2004 through like 2015. That's 11 years worth of flops. Madonna had Confessions, Hard Candy and MDNA during that time. I wouldn't say Janet's new music is that much more relavent than Madonna's new music--that's just wishful thinking. Her album sold like 30,000 more than Madame X did, hardly a global success.

Last time we saw her was when she ‘surprised’ The View and came out looking like an unmasked Scooby Doo yeti.

Fake Nana Mouskouri!

[quote]Her singles went nowhere all over the world

Wrong. "Crave" was a modest worldwide hit from MADAME X. It's her biggest Adult Contemporary hit in the USA since 1998's "Frozen."

[quote]In the United States, it reached the eleventh place of Billboard's Adult Contemporary chart, becoming her biggest hit there since "Frozen" (1998). It also gave Madonna her record-breaking 49th number 1 hit on the Dance Club Songs chart. On the UK Single Sales chart, it reached number 51.

[quote] Janet's albums were bombing from 2004 through like 2015

DAMITA JO is multi platinum. All of her albums since the SB incident debuted at #1 except DJ and 20 YO, which debuted and peaked at #2. Her blacklisting played a big part in their underperformance, but even with the blacklisting, she still managed to put out albums that debuted in the Top 2 stateside. Madonna, being a white woman who can get away with shit like writing about fucking the young in a desperate sex book with zero consequences, never had to face a blacklisting.

R68 Notice this thing will not provide a link to these bogus stats.

I have a secret y'all.

You can like both Janet and Madonna and you can like neither Janet or Madonna or you can like just one and not the other.

I'll give Janet this. She must be in her seventies, but she only looks about 48. She's got her mother's genes and she's never been self destructive. So even with some filter or fillers, Janet looks about 25 years younger than her real age. Never could sing but I heard she was a good dancer back in the day.

Blacklisting might have played a part.

The awful quality of her post All For You music played a bigger one.

[quote]Never could sing but I heard she was a good dancer back in the day.

She wasn't.

[quote] The awful quality of her post All For You music played a bigger one.

No. DAMITA JO was fabulous (“All Nite...” is one of her best dance songs ever). 2O Y.O. was a bit too urban for some of her fans, but it contained one of her best ballads (“Enjoy”) and one of her best bedroom jams (“Take Care”). Discipline was a bit uneven, but it had the hot top 20 single “Feedback” and the highly underrated and ahead of its time “Rock With U.” And Unbreakable was rightly heralded by critics as her best work since The Velvet Rope.

[quote] She must be in her seventies

You must be thinking of Madonna. At 54 years old, Janet is young enough to be her daughter.

Janet bothers no one. Like at all. I get you guys love making fun of everyone but I find it odd Janet is the target of extreme ire.

She isn't paying millions to be in the press all the time like Beyonce, J Lo and Kim Kardashian nor is she attention whoring on social media like Cher and Madonna. She's not hyped up anymore like Ariana, Billie and Camila are.

It's easy to ignore her. So I don't get the hate

R88 Agreed as soon as she dropped Jam & Lewis for Jermaine Dupri the quality in her music dropped dramatically. Dupri was ugly and I dont know what that relationship was about. That Arab guy was the best looking guy she ever got with. James DeBarge was cute. I think she needed a real black stud like Bobby Brown or Tupac who were both crazy about her. Apparently she boned Matthew McConaughey.

Janet and her first husband James DeBarge. They eloped but Joe had them divorce shortly. There's a rumor they had a child but gave it up for adoption

I love it when the diehard gay Stans desperately try to make it seem like their favorite faded diva is "relevant"

"Madame X went to number one!"

"Critics said 'Discipline' was her best work since 'The Velvet Rope!"

"The album of ABBA covers was her highest chart debut of her entire career!"

"My diva's album she released at age 58 and her career was in freefall outsold your diva's album she released at the same age when her career was in freefall!"

"Yes, but my diva's single reached #53 on the Adult Contemporary chart in Uruguay! Yours only reached #83 in Albania!"

God, I love teh gays.

R86 Here's my choice. I choose not to bow down to the idol worship of phony celebrities. Some performers have talent and I can admire that. Others are attention whores who have no conscience or qualities beyond narcissism. The celebrity manttra of worship me or else makes me say go to hell cunt. Daddy's waiting for you.

I'm European and I honestly can't name a single JJ song. The ones listed upthread ring no bells. The only thing I kind of remember is that she had a minor hit in the early naughts, I think, which saw the light of the day on the music channels. It was GHASTLY. Pretentious, syrupy, unironic in its whiny awfulness. I changed the channel every time it came on. True story.

R97 Bitch stop lying!

Bitch fat.

Bitch HELLA fat.

R98/JABBA PRESSED and DISTRESSED.

That pic was taken with a wide angle lens from ten feet away and even so only her face would fit in the frame!

R98, I'm not lying and you're cuckoo.

R98 Their anecdote is valid. Janet was mostly popular in The US, UK and Japan. I love Janet and all but crazy fans just dont help anyone's reputation and music is subjective. Beyonce, Britney and Gaga fans also don't realize this.

Janet was never that big in Europe.

R102/JABBA be SOOOOOO DISTRESSED PRESSED AND OBSESSED!!!!!!!!

And JABBA be FAT

JABBA be HELLA FAT

[quote] I'm European and I honestly can't name a single JJ song. The ones listed upthread ring no bells. The only thing I kind of remember is that she had a minor hit in the early naughts, I think, which saw the light of the day on the music channels. It was GHASTLY. Pretentious, syrupy, unironic in its whiny awfulness. I changed the channel every time it came on. True story.

One big lie.

Janet has had huge success all over the globe, including Europe. She even started her Velvet Rope tour there instead of in America due to wild success. She sold out all over Europe. Her single “Together Again” from that album was also globally massive and is one of the biggest selling singles of all time.

Young René Elizondo Jr. was fine too...

Is Jabba ALSO ?

Wissam is hotter than all of Madonna's cast-offs.

Yes, which makes one wonder why he was with Janet.

Well, it's not a lie, R106 and you might want to look into calming down.

"Together Again"? One of the biggest global hits? I have never, ever heard of it. Never. And it's not like I don't listen to pop music.

Janet doesn't really have a song like Heaven Is A Place on Earth.

That was huge in Europe.

Wissam must've been horse-hung.

R94 Oh, guuuuuurl, that is one gay looking huzbin.

Janet was hitting the bleach hard in the late '80s.

OOH, JABBA/R106 be MELTING she so PRESSED!

Is it Photoshop or did her complexion really lighten? She is noticeably darker in the older photos.

She was Paula Abdul toned in the late '80s, early '90s.

It was the make-up. She was light during the Control and RN 1814 eras, but during the janet. era she was more her natural brownish tone.

RN era

janet. era

"Together Again" was well received by music critics, who praised the song's structure and Jackson's vocals. The single was a commercial success, topping the US Billboard Hot 100 for two weeks, as well as reaching number one on the Dance Club Songs chart. The single was additionally certified Gold by the Recording Industry Association of America. Worldwide, it peaked within the top-five in most countries, such as Canada and the United Kingdom, and topped the charts in the Netherlands. The single sold six million copies worldwide and is one of the best-selling singles of all time.

[quote]The single sold six million copies worldwide and is one of the best-selling singles of all time.

Oh, PUH-LEEZE, retard JABBA/R123!

The Archies' "SUGAR SUGAR", Bing Crosby's "Jingle Bells" and The Harry Simone Chorale's "Little Drummer Boy" sold more.

But you keep fuckin' that chicken, JABBA.

Keep fuckin' that chicken.

Janet is old, but R124 must be 90!! Who the fuck references Bing Crosby and who are the Archies?

[quote]Keep fuckin' that chicken.

What does that mean?

Did you even look at the link, Retard R125/JABBA?

[quote] Who the fuck references Bing Crosby and who are the Archies?

😂 I know, right. And count me in as being mystified by that “fuckin’ that chicken” line. ??? Just more warped nonsense.

[quote]And count me in as being mystified by that “fuckin’ that chicken” line.

Every post confirms what a moron you are, Retard JABBA/R128.

Every chicken fuckin' post.

Still befuddled, because R129 is an absolute idiot.

Sorry, OP, but she's creepy in the photo.

JABBA be so stupid.

So chicken fuckin' stupid.

R131, creepy? I’d hate to see what you think is normal.

Is Janet a frau?