'Leaked' pictures of Cary Grant and Randolph Scott hint at a gay relationship that never was

Pathetic projecting. Straight guys pal around, live together, mock and tease each other all the time .... however when you're hellbent on creating a narrative ....

The discovery has been made by Mark Glancy, a film historian based in London, who said: "Previous biographers have mistaken these for photographs of their real home life that somehow got leaked or mistakenly released to the press.

"But I went to the Paramount Pictures archive and found that actually these photographs were commissioned by Paramount as part of a publicity campaign that ran throughout the 1930s, that promoted their relationship as that of two bachelors who were very heterosexual, and they used it for them to endorse products such as soups."

You've got to be fucking kidding me. It was obviously a matter of historic record that these were PR shots. I've heard them described as such ever since I first heard of them. The homoerotic undertones were seen as comical. Next up from this London-based genius: "It was widely supposed that King Kong was an actual 80-ft.-tall ape. However I discovered that he was only a small puppet, and furthermore, that the elevated train he pulled down was, in fact, a model."

Thirty year old men don't have roommates.

These shots were in movie magazines at the time. Everybody should know that. That was because they were living together and the studio wanted to show how innocent it was, that they were just too crazy hetro batchelors having a carefree life, and offset the rumors about their relationship.

R3, live in NYC or SF?

Exactly the sort of good-nature’s hijinks I engaged in frequently while I was still alive!

What did people think? That they just went gay all of a sudden?

^^^ natured

We NEED a ducking edit feature!

Are these the same photos we've been cooing over for decades?

The link only showed me one.

The only thing that "leaked" were their cocks after they came in each other's mouth.

This is bad, uninformed revisionist history.

Someone Mr. Glancy that he hasn't "discovered" anything. He's merely misinterpreting existent data for whatever reason.

R9, yes, the same homo-tinged PR shots that we always knew were PR shots.

Another English genius at work, folks.

Next up from the same idiot; "It was widely assumed that Plymouth Rock was named after the car. But I recently discovered..."

Really. Why can't people accept that Cary may have been gay or bisexual? This is so tiresome.

Both were already successful actors when these pictures were taken. Why the hell would either of them needed a roommate?

"No man over the age of 30 has a roommate. If they're not lovers, they're sisters."

[Quote]Thirty year old men don't have roommates.

That might change with the increase of incels an social media making everyone socially retarded. Less men going into university and getting married they'll need to live with other men.

*Fewer men

The argument is not whether or not Grant was gay or bi or whatever.

The argument is that anyone thought these were candid snaps. Which they couldn't less obviously NOT be if the photos had been taken with the fucking Hubble Telescope.

LA was expensive, and movie stars didn’t make as much as one might imagine.

They got base contract salaries from the studio system back then. There were no big paydays. And I first saw these pictures in 1991 when I was in college studying film. These aren't new.

Here's one of the more "infamous" ones.

Hot!

And here's a discussion had HERE with 492 replies!

It was started in 2015! Sorry to steal your thunder 2015 Troll!

We are so used to looking for gay.

Most people in the 1930s were not. They would have considered being gay a very rare thing.

So many would not have picked up on the fact that the pics were of two queens living with each other, not bachelors.

Logic says that percentage of gay vs straight population and every colour of the rainbow in between was the same as now. Not rare in Hollywood by any means. Less out in the open? Sure.

Lol, R12. Perfect comparison.

They were both extremely good looking but Randolph Scott was unearthly handsome.

r24 It was pretty much very acceptable to be gay in the 20s and 30s in Hollywood. In fact, gays and lesbians were drawn to the film community in the silent era because of how wild and open people were. It was society outside of the "Hollywood Community" that made gays and lesbians' lives miserable, (hence the police raids on Bars and private parties.) Not saying there weren't homophobes in Hollywood, but men who worked at the Studios would and could hook up and no one cared.

(I had an old aunt who was a Hollywood starlet in the 30s and she told me stories of the wild times everyone had.)

My Favorite Photo from the shoot.

I love how the studio made Cary get married to make him look less gay to the public, and he stayed married to his assistant for like a year, and then moved back in with Randolph, because he missed his best friend. So cute.

Cary Grant is just a bit to elegant and well groomed to be straight. Definitely bi. But peerless as the embodiment of male charm and class. I wish men today would take after him more. It makes sense Grant's counterpart would be someone as dashing as Randolph Scott!

The idea that Cary Grant and Randolph Scott couldn't afford to have separate apartments is ludicrous. While it is true that actors didn't make the kinds of salaries that current A-listers do, they still did far better than the average person (who in 1940 was making less than $1400/year). The truth is, movie stars were quite wealthy, even back then.

[quote]But peerless as the embodiment of male charm and class.

Quite remarkable as Grant was poorly educated working class.

r28, Cary Grant didn't marry his assistant, he married actress Virginia Cherrill for a year. Grant, Cherrill and Scott sailed to Europe together in November 1933. Grant and Cherrill were married in London in February 1934, and divorced in March 1935. Throughout their marriage, Scott had an apartment in the same Hollywood complex as the newlyweds.

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Wasn't the rumor confirmed by everyone who knew them?

Cary? Cary???!!!

100% straight, my dear.

In the 1970s I saw an original private photo of Grant and Scott lounging on the beach together. It was owned by a gay Hollywood friend of theirs who gifted it to a friend of mine. I have no more details.

These photos are also featured in Grace and Frankie. Martin Sheen is feeling out of place in a leather bar, until a fellow eldergay sees him staring at these photos framed on the wall and strikes up a conversation.

Betty White outed them on the Joy Behar show.

[quote] The idea that Cary Grant and Randolph Scott couldn't afford to have separate apartments is ludicrous.

They had their own apartments. They just shared the beach house.

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London-based, R40! Film historian Mark Glancy is nothing if not London-based!

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Both Cary and Randolph were pole smokers.

R43 That London-based film historian Mark Glancy sounds as clueless as the ghastly Las Vegas-based hack Donald Spoto.

Straight men over 30 living with roommates is perfectly normal and common!

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Wasn't their relationship confirmed by several of their contemporaries?

[quote]They had their own apartments. They just shared the beach house.

No -- they shared a mansion in Los Feliz as well as the beach house. I guess they just enjoyed being housemates so much!

Okay, so Paramount ordered the photo shoot. That doesn't mean shit. 30-year-old men are not roommates for 12 years - especially rich movie stars - and no photographer would set up such photo poses like that.

[quote]and no photographer would set up such photo poses like that.

Yes, they were as gay as picnic baskets and couldn't conceal their overt flaming desire for one another even during a corporate photo shoot; I mean who could blame the poor mincing pathetics for not wanting to surrender even an hour of mutual oral enjoyment for the sake of their careers! I mean c'mon, its writ large in every pose in every photograph! And well, if you can't see it then you're just blind! Blind I tell you; BLIND!

R51 They may very well have been a couple, but those photos were staged for a fan magazine about the "merry bachelors". It was a very different and innocent time.

R19 This is the candid version.

I am sure the Los Feliz house was haunted. Everything in Los Feliz is haunted

Their house at 2177 West Live Oak Drive is a modest size compared to the monster across the road—

R56 what is the monster across the road?

YUP, jus assk scotty bowers who knew em....

[quote]The discovery has been made by Mark Glancy, a film historian based in London, who said: "Previous biographers have mistaken these for photographs of their real home life that somehow got leaked or mistakenly released to the press.

This is bullshit. Everyone knew they were publicity photos commissioned by the studio, people still own the magazines some of these photos were published in.

Sure, they lead to rumors, that's why there's a scene in My Favorite Wife where Grant is daydreaming over a shirtless Scott, it was very directly joking about those rumors that the photoshoot sparked.

But no one except really fucking stupid people who don't know how to use Google ever thought these were "leaked intimate photos."

The Telegraph isn't a great news outlet but I thought they were better than this.

Here's the happy throuple on board the SS Paris, en route to London in November 1933. Love the matching overcoats Cary and Randy are wearing - and those fabulous scarves!

No, no hint of gay anywhere here...

This moron has a book about Grant coming out from Oxford University Press, if this little tidbit is in it, they will have some explaining to do.

Did no one even do a tiny bit of fact checking on this crap?

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Grant was forced into his first marriage with virginal Virginia Cherrill. They newlyweds moved into the La Ronda Apts and Randy moved into the apartment next door. BF was close but not close enough. Cary started slapping his bride around and then tried to commit suicide by ODing on sleeping pills. Divorced 9 months later. The first of many for Miss Grant. The closet kills.

Does London-based film historian Mark Glancy think that these publicity shots—which everyone has always known and identified as publicity shots—are the only evidence for Cary Grant and Randolph Scott being gay?

[quote]YUP, jus assk scotty bowers who knew em....

Hard to do now that he's dead.

I thought it was known within Hollywood circles at the time that Grant and Scott were lovers. There were as out as people could be in those days.

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R61, Fact-checking!!! What do you think this is, The New Yorker? An English gentleman's word is his bond!! His James Bond, if you will. Good day, sir! I said Good Day!!!