Best Dessert In Every American State

OP, I agree with you about Utah! Nothing special.

California got donuts? That's it?

Donuts? Shaved ice??

Massachusetts kicks every other state's ass with its Boston Cream Pie. The only state that comes close is Wisconsin. Their state dessert is the cream puff.

Not one state has a fruit tart as a favorite, nor, except for MA, a layer cake, two of my favorite desserts. Especially shameful are my home state, NJ (salt water taffy is a dessert?), and PA (whoopie pies make me say anything but "Whoopie!"

The Alaska "dessert" made me puke in my mouth.

[quote]Not one state has a fruit tart as a favorite, nor, except for MA, a layer cake

You must have blinked and missed Maryland's Smith Island Cake. Pure heaven.

Buckeyes are a recent thing--most favorite desserts in Ohio are local like coconut bars (familiar to Aussies as lamingtons) in Cleveland. Kuchen is just a generic German term for cake--layer cake, coffee cake, whatever, it's a kuchen. Popcorn is really more of a Hoosier thing than an Indiana thing and chess pie is fought-over by TN and KY. Maryland is probably still the main home for radio bars (also found in VA, and disappearing from DC---these are marshmallow custard on chocolate cake, with a chocolate glaze.

I didn't miss that, r6. I think there were two cakes like that.

Though technically you are correct, my idea of a layer cake never goes any higher than three layers, and is usally two. There is no way in the world I would cut cake into that many layers.

Some of these items I don't consider to be desserts, such as: cinnamon rolls, popcorn, muffins, salt water taffy.

^^ People in NJ don't even consider salt water taffy a dessert.

That's just something you get when you go down the shore, only to throw away after a week because no one is eating it.

I didn't make it to my state but I would imagine it was pecan pie which I loathe. Taffy and popcorn are not desserts. Some of this list is ridiculous.

I want to try a pecan pie! Why don't you like it, R11?

Too sweet. Love pecans but not the pie r12.

Some of those are just poor and sad. Let's pour flavorless sugar and cheap fats together and call it something silly.

I love pecan pie. It's too sweet but I guess that's part of its appeal. I only have it once a year, at Thanksgiving or Christmas, because I will eat myself sick.

Even I think some of our American desserts are so over the top that they become gross.

That said, I want to try some Lane cake. I would make it without the coconut though.

Are American desserts really that sweet compared to European/ German ones? How much sugar in grams do you guys use for a cake (or is demanded in recipes)?

Where can I get the best cak?

R7 I always loved Buckeyes, grew up in PA but mom always made them, I suppose it was probably some PA Dutch recipe that evolved.

I also love no bake cookies. Which are largely a western PA thing.

Pecan pie is so sweet it will make your teeth hurt.

It tastes good, but should not exist

R10 100% correct. Salt Water Taffy is only good the minute you buy. Once you’re off the boardwalk it’s vile.

What would be considered a typical NJ dessert? 🤔🤔

Snooki's Gookie Cookie, R20.

For Jersey, I would say Italian cookies -- or pretty much anything out of an Italian bakery. Now I want a plate of zeppole.

R16 get out more. Seriously.

Floridas Key Lime Pie is delicious!!!!!!

r12 Pecan pie is pretty easy to make.

Bienenstich is wonderful

"Are American desserts really that sweet compared to European/ German ones? How much sugar in grams do you guys use for a cake (or is demanded in recipes)?"

I remember watching the bakers on The Great British Bake-Off having to make an American pie. One of them said that she hated American pies because they were too sweet. Paul Hollywood expressed the same sentiment.

Vermont apple pie? punch that cunt.

Nice honey trap, racist German guy. I'm still not going to interact with your reactionary non-dessert related threads

r27 Most American recipes don't have measurements by weight -- just by volume. Although it's slowly changing. I try to find recipes that use weight as they seem to produce more consistent results.

Hmm. I had a piece of pecan pie this morning - albeit somewhat against my wishes (from a blood sugar standpoint, it's damn near lethal). My best friend came over this morning, and wanted some, so - slices all around.

For a state dessert, I'd kind of rather it be blackberry cobbler. I like that better than pecan pie.

[quote] Let's pour flavorless sugar and cheap fats together and call it something silly.

Mmmmmmmm... flavorless sugar and cheap fats... *drools*

Haven't heard many people in Pennsylvania claiming whoopie pies as their favorite dessert. In many areas where the Pennsylvania Dutch reside, the dessert of choice is usually shoofly pie. Buttercake or butterkuchen, a German version of the former, is also popular.

I like fruit cobbers and I love key lime pie. Variations on pecan pie exist like bourbon pecan and chocolate pecan. I think pecan pie could do with far less sweetener and be better all around.

I'm bummed that I almost never see chocolate pies or variations thereof where I live now.

There were a few pie shops in very rural places I visited when traveling. They were the assholes of their respective states - and the restaurant food was terrible - but the pies were truly amazing.

Georgia: Peach Cobbler.

I love deserts, though I rarely eat them. However, I make exceptions for Apple Pie, Peach Cobbler, and Strawberry and/or Blueberry Cheesecake.

I used to bake regularly. My ex loved desert, & I’d bake for him, because it made him happy.

My great grandmother supported her kids after her husband was killed by making and selling pies. It was a small town in Texas and her husband was a sheriff. He was killed leaving her a widow with no support and a bunch of kids. This had to have been back in the 1900's-1920's. She was known to make the best pies for miles around. All I know is she used lard in her crust making it melt in your mouth.

Sugar Cream Pie. YUM.

I'm making pies

NC should be banana pudding or pecan pie, but we do produce a lot of sweet potatoes.

[quote]What would be considered a typical NJ dessert? 🤔🤔

Crumb buns are a New Jersey thing, but I thought of them as breakfast or a snack, not dessert. Still, they're more dessertlike than salt water taffy.

Maybe cream pies (chocolate, coconut, butterscotch) from diners.

Speaking of Italian desserts, as r22 did above, my grandmother made panna cotta every Thanksgiving and Christmas. Not one bite of pumpkin pie was forced between these lips until I was an adult.

[quote]He was killed leaving her a widow with no support and a bunch of kids.

Bullshit. That socialist program Social Security paid her every month for every kid until each of them reached the age of 18. And a sheriff with no employer sponsored life insurance? Unlikely. At a minimum, with three kids and a wife, he should have privately bought some of his own.

Shoofly Pie in WV? No. The state has much better desserts to offer.

Also: I love Massachusetts, AND Boston, but they can keep their cream pie. I've never liked it. I don't like Banana Cream Pie, either. Coconut Cream Pie, however...yes, please.

Depend on if SS was around.

August 14, 1935, United States

Look at the dates they wrote, smartass.

[quote] That socialist program Social Security paid her every month for every kid until each of them reached the age of 18.

The poster said the time frame was 1900-1920. Social Security started in 1935.

Learn to read, you fat whore!

Utah is a total joke, but completely predictable from boring white mormons.

Even a story about grandma's pies will make a dataloon go on the attack.

I like hair pie.

Having Minnesota's choice be the blueberry muffin (not a dessert!) was quite odd.

I would have chosen either a seven-layer bar or a rhubarb pie.

What is Utah's, prunes or something?

[quote]I love deserts, though I rarely eat them.

Try the Mojave!

Every single person knows that the state dessert of Minnesota is: Genurkenflurgen Cake

[quote]My great grandmother supported her kids after her husband was killed by making and selling pies.

I didn't realize the pie business was so dangerous!

I tend to avoid Buckeyes: they're just too sweet for my taste. The version of Bourbon Balls shown looks too sweet, too: I've never had any that were dipped in chocolate as depicted. They used to be favorites years ago for office parties, so the fraus could go crazy over the trace amounts of liquor they contain. I didn't realize the Bellagio had one of the largest chocolate fountains in the world.

[quote]I'm bummed that I almost never see chocolate pies or variations thereof where I live now.

I just made one for you fresh!

[quote]I love deserts, though I rarely eat them.

Let's trade!

R42 I dont think SS existed during those days. Destitute widows were a thing and poverty was rampant.

R42 has got to be a foreign troll. Notice he mentions that "socialist" program.

I'd like to know where the "diners and restaurants across the state" serving possum pie are that the people behind that video found. Dogpatch in the 1970s? Possum pie may have originated in Arkansas, but I've lived here 46 of my 50 years and never once seen it on a menu in a restaurant. Fried peach and apple pies, lemon icebox pie, chess pie, pecan pie (which I despise), and in a recent development bread pudding are much more commonly eaten desserts. And milkshakes in various flavors, as drive ins and hamburger stands serving them aren't entirely a thing of the past.

I’m too lazy to watch...what was NY?

probably doughnuts. They used a lot of "snacks" as desserts. It's pretty lame.

Donuts are not a dessert either. More of a breakfast sweet. I've never ever had a donut for dessert, unless we're talking sneaking in half a dozen Entenmann's chocolate frosteds when raiding the fridge at midnight...

I was born and lived my first two decades in Florida (then escaped for good) and I absolutely hate key lime pie. I've tried at least 2 dozen (some from restaurants that prided themselves on that dish alone) and one is worse than the last. I think the recipe is just a love/hate thing. My great grandmother used to make a lemon meringue pie that was out of this world (with the toasty browned peaks a mile high), so some variations on the theme are not bad a all. I'm also no fan of no-bake cookies. Yuck. Buckeyes are disgustingly easy to make and taste as pathetic as the lazy effort required to make them. Good fruit pies are pretty amazing (peach and blueberry are some of the best), but not surprisingly - the pastry is everything. If you aren't a master at the pie crust (flaky, crispy and buttery verses soggy and mushy), forget it. The all butter, French version is the best and a couple of the many secrets needed to getting it perfect lie in baking the pie at 400 degrees F the entire cook time along with brushing the bottom of the pastry with (gasp) a little corn syrup to protect the pastry from the fruit filling. Lots of other tips, but those two are crucial.

Which state got "gloryhole cum loads" as best dessert?

"I’m too lazy to watch...what was NY?"

New York was a state located in the Northeastern United States. New York was one of the original thirteen colonies that formed the United States. With an estimated 19.45 million residents in 2019, it was the fourth most populous state. In order to distinguish the state from its city with the same name, it was sometimes referred to as New York State.

[quote] I didn't realize the Bellagio had one of the largest chocolate fountains in the world.

Are you sure that's....chocolate?

Fudge pie is another one that KY and TN fight over and it's definitely filled with chocolate.

No mention of Indian Pudding in any of the New England states--beloved if less common than it once was.

[quote]I’m too lazy to watch...what was NY?

Cheesecake. Bleah.

This is a moronic video. I've lived in CA for decades, and don't know a single person who would consider having donuts for dessert.

R51, you can't watch the video?!?

it's an hour of bullshit?

Everyone knows that this is the preferred dessert in California.

[quote]I've never ever had a donut for dessert, unless we're talking sneaking in half a dozen Entenmann's chocolate frosteds when raiding the fridge at midnight...

You keep donuts in the refrigerator?

r67 Well, it ain't margarine, toots!

r74, chocolate coated donuts are better cold.

The Alaskan dessert--raw Crisco, sugar, and fruit--is pretty disgusting.

R64, you can also brush the bottom of the pie shell with a beaten egg to seal it from the fruit juices. Then use the rest of the beaten egg to brush the top crust to promote browning (and to help hold turbinado sugar on the crust when you sprinkle it on just before baking).

Raw Crisco and sugar are two tastes that go great together!

I want peach cobbler or blueberry pie

[quote]Crumb buns are a New Jersey thing, but I thought of them as breakfast or a snack, not dessert. Still, they're more dessertlike than salt water taffy.

I think you would think of crumb buns a dessert if you ever got them from Styertowne Bakery in Clifton.

They're about 25% cake and 75% buttery crumbs.

[quote]Bullshit. That socialist program Social Security paid her every month for every kid until each of them reached the age of 18.

Social Security didn't exist in the 1920s, R42. The program was designed to pay based upon lifetime payroll tax contributions. R37's great-grandmother would never have paid into the system, since her role would have been 'homemaker.' And payments for minor children is a different program added decades later.

[quote]And a sheriff with no employer sponsored life insurance? Unlikely.

Employer insurance is a relatively modern innovation. It would not have been available or affordable at that time. Nor could he have "bought some of his own." Being a small town sheriff was not a high-paying job. And when that family lost its breadwinner, the Great Depression was fast approaching.

In the 1920s, none of the current social infrastructure or welfare programs the IRA instructs you to denigrate was available.

UTAH IS JELLO

SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE

cock is delicious

I thought Jersey would be cannoli.

I thought it’d be sfogliatella, in honor of The Sopranos.

r81 mmmmmmmmmmmmm

Nanaimo Bars are Canadian, motherfuckers.

R73 is either posting from 1997 or Pico-Robertson.

I love key lime pie.

I love boston cream pie.

I love pecan pie.

Until I saw this video I didn’t know the former Mayor of Washington DC had a pie named after him.

The California one was just weird--doughnuts are bad-for-you breakfast food. We eat way more ice cream and, given that we grow most of the fresh fruit in the country, it's weird that something with fruit in it isn't on the list--strawberries, say. Or even chocolate--both Ghiradelli and Scharffen Barger are based in California. Or almonds or walnuts (we also grow most of those). Or grapes, or plums. Hell, even something with cheese since we make a lot of that.

But doughnuts? What the hell? All I can find is that the Maple Bar was invented in LA, but it still comes behind the fortune cookie, chiffon pie, chiffon cake and the hot fudge sundae on TasteAtlas.

As a native Wisconsinite, I'll say that the cream puffs from the state fair are indeed amazing, but cream puffs are not otherwise very present statewide. Oh well, at least it's a good dessert, unlike others in the video, and strongly dairy-based.

I found the video to be both disgusting and not accurate. Louisiana does not eat that nasty fried dough for dessert, it is a breakfast or snack. The desserts that rule there are bread pudding and bananas foster.

This is why the US is fat.

I would have chosen a lemon curd tart for California, and a strawberry tart for Washington state.

Sqirl jam tart — mindfully housemade with thoughtfully lush tree-ripened fruit picked at its peak of ripeness and gently tongue-kissed by a flight of sustainably wildcrafted and curated local moulds — for CA.

Jellied racoon tails is good eatin'.

I've been fascinated by Watergate Salad ever since I heard of it. At first glance, this dessert seems quite unappealing. Yet take a closer look and it contains mild and delectable pistachios, which are the strangely neglected nut of the dessert world. Also, pineapple, usually a good performer in desserts. It seems like it just needs like an amazing pastry chef to turn it into something nice. Just remove the marshmallows, cool whip, and cherries and there is an elegant dessert in there somewhere.

I have read this recipe originates from Kraft Foods as a party food, and apparently did not exist until the 70s when it was called pineapple-pistachio delight and was then renamed Watergate Salad by a newspaper editor in Chicago, although similar foods were eaten on the west coast much earlier. It sounds like the south has since claimed ownership of it. Even Martha Stewart finds Watergate Salad too low brow and has no recipes though she has a recipe for the related dish Ambrosia.

It was jello for Utah. I’m not from Utah, but I thought Mormons loved ice cream? When I went there, they had ice cream everywhere.

Not desserts, but Mormons love dirty soda (especially Dr. Pepper, raspberry purée, Coffee Mate/Dr. Pepper, coconut Coffee Mate, squeeze of lime) and frozen sugar cookies which are iced with room-temperature pink buttercream upon ordering.

Sugar is second only to psych meds as the official vice of Utah.

Kringle would have been a better choice for Wisconsin.

Or aebleskiver -- very popular in the Sacndi communities of Wisconsin.

There were many moments when I thought this list was suspect. But it was confirmed when apple pie was chosen for Vermont instead of a maple creemee.

I think it just depends on your definition of dessert. Maple creemees are amazing and, indeed, ubiquitous throughout Vermont, but it's more of a treat/snack than a post-meal dessert. Apple pie (with a slice of white cheddar on top) would be my pick for VT dessert, strictly thinking of dessert as "served at home after a meal."

Salt Water Taffy is not dessert. It’s candy.

The New Jersey state dessert, as everybody knows, is the cannoli.

Leave the fuckin’ candy. Take the cannoli.

[quote] I absolutely hate key lime pie. I've tried at least 2 dozen (some from restaurants that prided themselves on that dish alone) and one is worse than the last.

Weirdo.

Key lime pie is one of those things that usually isn't done well even in Florida.

[quote]Bullshit. That socialist program Social Security paid her every month for every kid until each of them reached the age of 18. And a sheriff with no employer sponsored life insurance? Unlikely. At a minimum, with three kids and a wife, he should have privately bought some of his own.

Troll or just really young, dumb and poorly educated in US history? Hard to believe anyone is this fucking stupid.

Cook's Country's NJ Crumb Buns (Crumb Cake) recipe. Sounds good -- I should try it.

I hate being diabetic. I would so love to make those New Jersey Crumb Buns right now, r110. I'll settle for salad for breakfast, though, once again.

The list says “chocolate” is the dessert of Nevada. That’s so generic. I’d say it’s ice cream, because in the summer when it’s hot, everybody lives on it.

You could probably say some fancy dessert at a big hotel, or maybe ice cream floats or shakes. There’s no ethnic dessert here that I’m aware of.

For those of you who do not like Boston Cream Pie, Massachusetts is also home to the original chocolate chip cookies (Tollhouse cookies.)

Some of my favorites from other states listed include Key Lime Pie, New York Cheesecake, Blueberry pie.

Maryland's Smith Island cake looks delicious too.

For those of you who do not like Boston Cream Pie, Massachusetts is also home to the original chocolate chip cookies (Tollhouse cookies.)

Some of my favorites from other states listed include Key Lime Pie, New York Cheesecake, Blueberry pie.

Maryland's Smith Island cake looks delicious too.

I just made the Missouri entry: Gooey Butter Cake. (Although mine is called OOEY Gooey Butter Cake.)

It doesn't look as gooey as a Philly butter cake

I think I've had that butter cake before.

Marie Callender's restaurants used to put paper napkins on the table which were printed, "Apple pie without some cheese is like a kiss without a squeeze." Yet they NEVER offered you cheese with your apple pie. I'm still resentful to this day. That Marie Callender was a big fat liar.

You can't afford a cheese wallet, R118?

I will never understand why anyone ruins a perfectly good piece of apple pie with fucking CHEDDAR CHEESE on it.

R120, it's delicious.

R121, it's fucking disgusting, and a waste of perfectly good cheese and a waste of perfectly good pie.

If you're going to put something on apple pie, it's vanilla ice-cream.

R13, you use whipped cream to cut the sweetness a bit.

I'm not even a fan of pecans, but a good pecan pie is a thing of beauty.

I've seen apple pie made with a crust that incorporates cheddar.

My hometown had a Mexican restaurant that served a dessert that was baked apples much like pie filling served on top of a crispy cinnamon sugar tortilla with a bit of cheddar cheese melted over the apples. I have no idea if this was anything even remotely authentic because I've never seen anything like it since (in fact I would guess it was something invented to appeal to the white American palate), but it opened my eyes to the fact that apples and cheese do go very well together.

ITA @ R120. Cheese on apple pie is almost as gross as cheese on tuna. If ever there were two great tastes that taste horrible together, it's those two.

R110 - this is if you want to watch them do it . . .

Deep-fried ice cream seems to be gone, thankfully.

Sorry. R128 was meant for the “no longer popular” thread.

Agree that that New Jersey (salt water taffy) and California (donuts) were stupid choices. NJ is cannoli--no debate. Cali should be something healthy-ish like frozen yogurt. PA should be funnel cakes. Muffins and cinnamon buns are not desserts, they are for breakfast.

Love: Key lime pie, Boston cream pie, choc layer cake, lemon merengue pie, NY cheese cake, peach or apple pie/crisp, pecan pie, pumpkin pie, banana cream pie, toll house cookies, tiramisu, brownies, anything with booz,

Hate: anything with crisco or corn syrup, shaved ice, taffy, fudge, flan

Crumb buns are dry as fuck.

Yummm. Pie!

Why, Minneapolis's Baked Pears Alicia, you bitches!!!

What about Basque cake, r112? It’s more of a Reno thing.

For a Vegas dessert I’d have to go with the Golden Nugget’s bread pudding with bourbon sauce.

Steve Wynn added his mother’s recipe to the menu of one of the coffee shops in the early ‘70s and it was so popular that the other restaurants and buffet started serving it and giving the recipe out to anyone who asked. My stepmother still has a printed card with the recipe and we have it every holiday.

It went on the menu at every other Wynn property before spreading to other hotels, and eventually every every buffet in town was serving it. I suspect its popularity has something to do with buffet-goers not requiring teeth to eat it.

O.P.’s picture looks like an autopsy.

In the 1960s-90s suburbs of NYC crumb buns were a breakfast treat. Yes very dry but it could vary. They were consumed with copious amounts of milk or coffee. Like glazed chocolate cake donuts (also dry), they matched well with the American coffee we once drank. Glazed chocolate donuts were the perfect coffee dunking treat. This is a plain chocolate cake donut with hole, with a clear thin glaze - NOT frosting. Other good coffee dunking treats were plain donut, and dry Italian cookies of different types. Coffee of that era was often delicious and the right price, too.

I don't understand Italian cookies. Dry and tasteless. Chinese desserts are weird too.

[quote] I don't understand Italian cookies. Dry and tasteless.

Yeah, I agree. They're not very good.

They are made to complement coffee.

These are the kind of chocolate covered donuts I was talking about. Entenmann's made them, and Tastykake, but so did whoever delivered our bread in the 1950s and early '60s.

r76

Italian cookies are light and buttery. You must be confusing them with Stella D'oro or some other cheap knockoff. Pizelle's are great--one of the few things I like with anise. Lots of Italian cookies have fillings like pistachio,fruit or walnut.

In the late 80's every state and county fair featured Dippin Dots, which were advertised as the "Ice Cream of the Future." Well, the future is here. What happened?

^They sucked

[quote]I don't understand Italian cookies. Dry and tasteless.

ITA. They are typically made with shortening, not butter as R141 erroneously asserts. That's why they're flavorless and leave a disgusting oil slick in your mouth. Blech.

True butter cookies, such as the ones you bake at Christmas--German spritz cookies, made with real butter, are divine.

The only Italian dessert I've ever liked is panna cotta, which my grandmother made every Christmas and Thanksgiving. None of that baby diarrhea pie [italic]a casa nostra[/italic].

I don't like cannoli, and as a native of NJ, would not want it to represent the state. It should have been crumb buns / cake. Salt water taffy??? Who the FUCK made up this list?

Key Lime Pie for the win!

I would like to like Key Lime Pie, but just the thought of sweetened condensed milk engages my gag reflex.

Seconding the comment that no one eats beignets in Louisiana for dessert. It's something you'd get as a snack at anytime of the day. The state dessert of LA would be bread pudding or a Doberge cake.

Or a King Cake.

I've never eaten apple pie w/cheese, but I frequently eat plain apples with cheddar (or peanut butter.) Grapes with asiago. Pears with blue cheese.

Ricotta Pineapple pie is the official dessert of Jersey.

I'm the official dessert of New Jersey!

A vegan, sugar free, gluten free, fat free, low calorie, organic cupcake from California.

R112, Not simply ice cream for Nevada, but gelato. It's all over the strip. It's denser than other types of ice cream, so it's served in smaller amounts, which means that there's time to finish it before it all melts in the insane heat. I expect that it's gelato instead of frozen custard because of the "Italian" influence that's still there.

If you're in Edison, NJ, the best (official dessert) is gulab jamuns.

LV has a few frozen custard places in non-tourist areas.

Luv-it is right off the strip but it’s in a sketchy area and usually has residents of a nearby halfway house lurking in the parking lot.

Nielsen’s in Henderson was my favorite but they had a decidedly Deplorable response to COVID and now they’re dead to me.

CJ’s seems to exist solely for Instagram photo ops, but at least they have Dole Whip.

Best desserts in Vegas

They look amazing R155, but like all Indian food, too tedious to make.

They look amazing R155, but like all Indian food, too tedious to make.

but two posts are not!

No one in Virginia eats chess pie. Virginia is frozen custard or apple crisp. California should be date shakes.

[quote]I don't understand Italian cookies. Dry and tasteless.

They are not desserts, those are things they would eat in the morning with coffee, or in the afternoon as a palate cleanser. Remember the Italians taught the French how to cook. Those Italian cookies you can buy in a deli are perfect for dieters because they look real and taste like a plastic joke. No self-respecting Nonna would buy them when she hand-makes biscotti spiked with fruits and nuts, crunchy shortbreads made with butter and almond or rice meal, tender biscuits made with olive oil and drizzled with chocolate, anisette, or lemon glaze. All are delicious and perfect for espresso.

No one is debating that Italians aren't the world's best cooks, R152. Just not the best at cookies. Sorry.

I associate Pecan Pie much more with Georgia than Texas.

(I actually get a Pecan Pie from Goode & Co, which is in Tx, once every year, but that’s beside the point)

Like anything else, crumb buns can be great or they can be terrible. The cake part can definitely be moist if done right. It should be a yellow not a white cake. And not too much of it because obviously it’s just a vehicle for the crumbs.

There are some bagel places in NYC that have really, really good crumb buns. Not sure about NJ.

^R162

R163 They are perfect in the context of Italian cuisne. If I was having a fine Italian meal I would not be ordering a Toll House cookie with peanut fudge to finish off. Sometimes less is more.

Does the Marion Berry pie have crack in it?

I figured New Jersey's dessert was going to be Taylor Ham.

But in Italian pasticcerias they do have very good, traditional cookies. German cookies for Christmas for example are also very good!

But R163 is right, those Italian cookies taste more dried out than Joan Collins' vagina. The reason for the dryness is because those things were invented before the days of refrigeration, and also the hardness meant they could be transported on buggies with less damage and waste.

You're not going to the best bakery if you're getting dry Italian cookies. The good ones are buttery and crumbly and smell of almonds and vanilla. They go perfectly with a cappuccino.

New York Cheesecake.

The whole Italian cookie thing---you're not going to a good dolceria.

I cannot fucking stand chess pie. Or buttermilk pie. Or anything like that. Bleh.

Every Datalounge food thread shall end in bickering over Italian food.

I had to stop looking at the state by state video because I was getting nauseous.

You've always been nauseous, dear.

WW @ R174. So true. LOL.

There’s something vulgar about buying cookies by the pound the way it’s done in Italian bakeries in this country.

Oklahoma's a state now?

R179 = Evie Harris