Bottoms who don’t like to douche

Why do you need to talk about these things OP?

If I found out a bottom I was going to fuck had not douched, the sex would not happen. I need a very clean workspace.

In general I don’t. But I know there are young gay lungs out there who don’t know what they’re doing and are looking guidance. Telling them stuff like you shouldn’t douche before letting someone play in your hole is not good advice.

I think bottoms should just practice a sort of "rhythm method". When you're full down there, just do something else.

Me. This is male on male bull sex we both signed up for. I see now need to sugarcoat it.

don't need to "paint" ourselves into a corner , either R5

The shower squirter is the bomb.

I don’t like kissing people who haven’t brushed their teeth. There’s no way I’m going near an unwashed asshole, good bacteria be damned.

Even with preparation, problems arise. To the bottoms with lots of experience: if you prepare, what percentage of the time do you face a problem? Are you batting at least 90 percent?

[quote]Aside from the fact that enemas have been around for thousands of years and are generally good for you,

There are plenty of things that have been around for thousands of years that aren't particularly good for you.

You absolutely can douche too often and cause issues. It doesn't have anything to do with bacteria though (which can be avoided/replaced) ....

Douching every day, is not good.

[quote]Sorry for the power bottom rant. Just hate when other bottoms put out misinformation. If you want to fuck, clean your ass. Period.

Are you a Doctor, OP?

Here are what Drs. Dr. Stephen Goldstone (an assistant clinical professor of surgery at Mount Sinai Hospital and a specialist in anorectal disease) and Dr. Evan Goldstein have to say.

[quote] Both doctors recommended a simple shower before bottoming, using plain water to clean the butthole and a little bit inside, too. If that's not sufficient, there's probably something wrong with your diet. Try adding fiber for bulkier stools, which can be found in leafy green vegetables and other fiber-rich foods. If you don't like waiting in line at Sweetgreen, you can always try fiber supplements like Metamucil. There's even a supplement that explicitly targets the gay market: Pure for Men, which is made with the same psyllium husk, flaxseed and chia found in other over-the-counter fiber products, presumably manufactured extra… homosexually.

While personally, if I'm gonna' do that I'm still going to douche, I'm well aware that I'm going to take days off occasionally because I have to. I eat right and I've never "painted" anyone. I also don't do it if I'm going to eat certain things.

But please don't act as if there are no risks to douching or that it's "good for you."

Bump. (Or would that be..."dump?")

If you can't handle a little shit now and again you have no business being gay.

It is just me it is douching for bottoms relatively new? I don’t remember bottoms doing that in the 80s and 90s.

^ I rarely did back then. I rarely do still. Nothing against it. I just need to do it much.

There are always some shit particles lingering there which you can’t see

Douching is strictly for lower middle class dainty priss queens who like sex 'tidy' and have a horror of stains.

God really fucked me royally, ladies. I unwillingly became a bottom in my gay old age (my thirties) ANNNNND I have IBS - I have no choice but to douche. Some days it is blessedly quick and tidy, others, it takes hours, still others...it's - just not happening. Imagine how sexy it is to tel that hot top you've been lusting after who finally deigns to have you over that you've got to cancel due to *ahem* "tummy troubles." Despite my best efforts - as a vegetarian, who eats healthily and takes fiber supplements, my BMs are still anything but regular. (Or even predictable, for that matter.) It's worth the inordinate amount of time and effort spent on a clean GI tract simply to be able to enjoy sex fully, with zero fear of mess in the back of my mind. I hook up with random dudes once or twice a week on average. Sometimes I daydream about having a boyfriend/husband, but I cannot imagine cleaning out my guts like we're making menudo - every single time we want to bang. After all, spontaneity is half the fun of sex!

R17 here. Also, yeah I feels ya about depleting your GI tract of healthy bacteria - just replenish those beneficial microflora by eating your buddy's ass a little as a standard part of foreplay! Rimming is nature's yogurt after all! #Protips

I don't need my bottoms to be squeaky clean and douche minutes before we fuck. But, I don't want to smell or see your shit while I'm pounding away. If you know you have a full tank, don't let me in.

I don't ever remember any of my bottom boyfriends douching and there were very few problems. Once in a while there'd be a "moment" but very few times.

The correlation of douching obsessives with towel dancing in the gym, board shorts on the beach, circumcision and young Republicans has been scientifically established.

God really has sense of humor, putting the prostate deep inside the rectum.

I put a tablespoon of psyllium husk in my oatmeal. No need to douche (which I also believe has adverse health effects over time).

These bottoms need to stop eating junk food.

I really couldn't care less about shit if the bottom is really cute. It's a part of the body and I have to learn to live with it while we are sodomizing each other.

As far as douching is concerned both ayurvedic and Chinese Medicine claim you should douche at least once a month to clean your gut. Some western studies in current medicine theorize you should douche ate least every two.

I've started having sex at 19 and I don't think I douched for a long time. I just cleaned myself to the best of my knowledge.

If I'm being honest I remember having problems as a bottom less than a handful of times which in almost 20 years of sex life it's a very low rate. Truthfully I can't remember when I began worrying and douching before sex. I'm 36.

[quote]It is just me it is douching for bottoms relatively new? I don’t remember bottoms doing that in the 80s and 90s.

Maybe it became a 'thing' when straight people discovered anal sex?

[quote] we are sodomizing each other.

Each other? Like, what, taking turns?

The horror, the horror....

I remember my bottom friends in the 90s always picking up a few Fleet enemas every time they went to the pharmacy.

[quote] Each other? Like, what, taking turns? The horror, the horror....

Welcome to the New World Order, gran.

[quote]Bottoms who don’t like to douche...

...better learn how to top.

[quote]I cannot imagine cleaning out my guts like we're making menudo - every single time we want to bang. After all, spontaneity is half the fun of sex!

I used to roll my eyes at TV portrayals of spur of-the-moment anal in [italic]Queer as Folk.[/italic] Thankfully, [italic]Looking[/italic] acknowledged the realities of cleaning out.

It must be all the processed foods these queens are eating these days.

Massengil

[quote]Aside from the fact that enemas have been around for thousands of years and are generally good for you

Enemas are not "generally good for you".

Knowing your body always is good. But no dietary practice provides the kind of cleanliness that many/most people prefer with anal sex behind a light fingering.

R35 is typical of the ambush poster who just snipes. Fine.

But an enema once in a while for purposes of anal sex is not going to hurt a healthy person. It doesn't need to reach "around the bed" or focus concerns on parts of the body beyond where a penis goes. Anal sex is not the same thing as a colonoscopy. Affecting our flora is not a good thing, but applying the following helps maintain or restore the populations, especially if a man is an energetic bottom.

(copied)

Take high dose probiotics (50-100 billion) – high in bifidobacterium, which is the main family of bacteria for the colon.

Consume plenty of prebiotic foods or take prebiotics supplements if you must, to help build up your residential bacteria

Glutamine and Butyrate can be helpful to protect the gut lining making it a better home for bacteria to embed

Fisters can figure things out for themselves, including why.

We all wear condoms and we all stock more than two towels.

Bottoming throughout the mid 70s, I have no memory of it being a problem, or ever being discussed. I don't remember gay sex manuals like the one pictured below circa '77 even mentioning it....

. .

Condoms are handy to prevent shits on the dick

Remember bottoms, Massengill is the only douche with PURACLEAN!

r9 never had a problem ever. Even when I lost my cherry. I am paranoid about being messy down there when engaged in sex.

This is the point in our story where we tell people that Fleet enema is purchased for the bulb, not the solution. One squirt of clean water held for the “Happy Birthday” song eliminated before a quick ass shower is great.

[quote]Enemas are not "generally good for you".

I have colonic irrigation daily under a crystal-encrusted pyramid from a Filipino maid, and continue to look DEWY!

My late partner was a OBGYN. He advised women to douche maybe 1 time a week max. He said if they did it more, they would kill the healthy bacteria in the vagina and smell. As to men, he said a bulb at most. He did it once a week and we never had any problems.

Sorry ladies, it's all I got. I really haven't had too many problems with my bottoms. I just ask them to shower and use a suppository if they didn't go that day and wash after. On the other hand, I make them wait a bit after so they renew that musky scent that is soooooooooo good when you eat their ass.

Omg this thread is amazing. I'm so hot right now

R45, your late partner was a gay gynecologist? How did he happen to choose that line of work?

I have always just winged in when bottoming. I don't think those douche shower power hoses are good for you. When I was just a young beginner gay I had an older boyfriend tell me that if it was no shit on the tp, you were golden. I used to not even wash my ass and let a guy eat my ass. I wouldn't be that be dirty now. If you are going to play in shit hole be prepared to be shit on at some point. Toughen up tops.

Try douching with a hypodermic syringe. That'll do the trick.

This is disgusting 🤮

I will never, ever understand bottoms who do not douche. I hooked up with an Italian guy once and it was messy. I gave him the benefit of the doubt (sometimes accidents happen, if you play in the sandpit you're gonna get dirty etc etc) and went back to fuck him a second time - same thing.

No third attempt.

I have a big dick. The dick is going to go further in that your finger. You might think you're clean from popping your finger up and swirling it around a bit - but trust me, you're not.

Also - if you're barebacking, a clean hole is a lot less risky for contracting things like urethritis and other infections. Not risk-free but it's definitely better than plunging your dick into a cauldron of faeces.

I don't like to douche.

But, I'm gonna anyway.

R51/52, if you reveal on DL that you have a big dick, it is customary to post an accompanying photo. Thank you.

All of you experienced power bottoms how do you handle:

1. Spur of the moment sex. You get the booty call at midnight. Your horny and he's someone you really want to get with. What do you do?

2. Trips. Long weekends or weeklong trips with a guy. Do you douche before you leave? All through the trip?

A surprise anal top better be ready for some mud on the tires.

There are certain foods and restaurants that always give me diarrhea. If I want to do anal play, the day before I have the General Tso’s Chicken at the greasy Chinese restaurant in the nearby strip mall. It’s a lot easier to use nature’s douche, and the food is pretty good despite the gastrointestinal issue.

The other option is to eat foods that produce very solid stools and don’t worry about them being in there. For the top, it’s just like shooting pool, so no biggie.

I would NEVER knowingly go out and engage in sex without douching. Plain water is fine for me. I use a hair color applicator bottle that, during my super active years, I always keep in my backpack.

I’d rather excuse myself for a quick squirt in the bathroom to freshen up for an impromptu performance than get some guy dirty. I don’t always need to do a “deep” clean so sometimes a quick rinse can be just fine. It’s the effort that makes the difference.

Never in my life would I bend over for a top unless I had at least flossed with my finger!!! How could anyone do such a thing?? And those shower nozzle things just hurt.

Keep in mind that you're fucking an asshole, which is the only possible exit for the human body to pass solid waste. At some point you will encounter shit.

Psyllium husk everyday, Walgreens generic version of Metamucil works best. Avoid paying for fancy packaging on “Pure for Men”. I eat clean and light diet the day of and/or before. I’m usually good for at least 5/6 hours after doing a fleet enema with water. I always go and check myself in the bathroom with a finger beforehand. Yes, it took many years to learn what works.

How do people not get E-coli from sticking their snout down there?

I mean, even if it’s clean, it’s not like you can disinfect your ass.

Before bottoming, I invite my friend Jeremy over who is an ultimate douche. I find when he leaves I feel a sense of relief and wellbeing.

That is crazy carrying a portable douche in your back pack at the ready. I applaud your commitment. I'm too lazy. I feel like tops are expecting more. In the late 90's/early 2000's I didn't see like that big of a deal. I mistakenly did a proper enema in made a huge mess so now I am weary.

Take your metamucil everyday, wash your ass prior to the big appointment and you'll be fine.

The rest is overkill.

I'm a total bottom. I know my body very well. I know when "the tank is full". If surprise sex comes up, I know whether I'm ready or not. If I'm not, I hopefully have time to douche or stick to sucking that dick. 90% accuracy.

R47 - he liked to consult and be active in terms of doing procedures. He told me it was between that and being a gastroenterologist but that a) gastro was more depressing in terms of patient outcomes; b) some interesting advances were being made in the field when he was in med school (lasers, new medication, etc.); and that obviously office work was broken up by births, Caesareans, etc. and he liked the variety. He was a very well-regarded obstetrician and surgeon. He was not the only gay man in this field. There were also gay men who were nurses and assistants of his who were very good. James said it was science and action, so it was a good fit for men and he never got distracted by beautiful patients ha ha.

I'm prefer bottoms douched empty at least through the sigmoid. Any cock 7 or more is going to enter the sigmoid in a enthusiastic deep fucking. The problem is the descending colon. Might as well empty that because it might dislodge. And experienced doucher knows to avoid getting water past the splenic - that's where you get the nasty surprise 20 minutes into the fuck. Or they just do the anus, but there is water in the sigmoid. Amateur! You'd almost rather discover fudge pack then receive the dirty douche water cascade mid fuck.

[quote]20 minutes into the fuck

Oh, my sides!

I’ve heard that if you put a few drops of oregano oil in an enema bag with distilled water, it’s not only good for slicking up your hole, but it’s a natural disinfectant.

I also wonder if the size of your ass matters. I have a big ass so it usually takes a big dick for me to get totally filled up where that “second hole” is getting hit. Not sure if smaller guys need as much for the same effect. The times I’ve topped where my partner was smaller in the hips/booty department, it seems like they really felt it and my dick is medium-sized.

I like the smell of my un-douched hole. It's kind of tangy. Tops flip for it!

R71 - if you eat ass like that you can get very sick.

Honestly, this thread is very informative. I prefer to bottom but have never douched, so I end up topping because I "Fear the Reaper" --if you know what I mean. The few times that I've bottomed, we didn't finish because I felt too self-conscience.

Considering the gay male bottom:top ratio is 90:10, I would think that any non-hygienic bottoms would pretty much be out in the cold.

R54 I would have thought based on previous photographic evidence I've supplied that my word would be good enough - though I haven't taken a dick pic for a while, maybe I'll do one for a laugh

Yikes...yet another UK guy dick pic. By now, we know it even better than his doctor. Could you at least post a hole pic for us tops? We feel left out.

We are doing this all wrong. We need two threads.

1. Bottom problems 2. Top problems

My guess is #2 will be one short thread.

I pity anyone going near R57's Tso Hole. That oily mess of an inflamed serpent sleeve all set to spicily blister the skin from the poor top with a chemical burn and the branding smell of hoisin, vinegar and an angry shit.

As R57 whispers, astride his victim, "I ate bad Chinee so I'd have diarrhea for you, Papi. Smell. Smellllllllll."

I used to douche every time before sex but had some issues with water escaping during the act. I would douche until the water was clear in the bowl, sometimes it took 5 -6 times. It was discouraging to find some liquid on the sheets afterward , especially after all that prep work. My partner suggested I just use a dildo in the shower right before sex and we’ve had very few problems since.

you douche your shitty ass in the shower and let the poop slowly build up in your shower drain. We can smell it, you know.

I remember there being a video on XTube of a hot guy douching in the shower. And you can see, well, everything. I remember so many guys commenting that it was hot. It was kinda disgusting.

CUNTS who are stupid!

Is douching something that has become a major thing with barebacking and prep. I'm 40 - I never douched as a young gay and I just don't remember it being this huge issue. I used condoms back then. With prep, I can top, so it's just easier to top or vers it up not after a big dinner.

Also, I feel like this thread is giving me a complex about it. I don't find the youtube videos consistent. Some say only put a lot in, others have fire hoses. Isn't this really bad for your whole digestive system?

No, it's not. Brush your teeth. Wash behind your ears. Clean out your hole.

R80 - let's be serious. Cleaning out the drain is not that hard and with my late partner I never smelled anything or had problems.

Gen-X here. Versatile. I appreciate the shift from the 90s to the 2000s where douching became a higher priority among bottoms. I read somewhere a few years ago that a man’s biology shifts in his mid’ 20s. That’s why we have fond memories of butt-fucking spontaneity when we were younger and then becoming more self conscious about it later. I’ve been douching before anal since my mid 20s.

R87 yeah that’s a good point too. As you age your body does change. Which is why the elder gays coming in here talking about back in my day all we did was bent over and had immaculately clean holes are kinda making me roll my eyes. Some of you are that guy at the bathhouse who you can smell before you can see.

Of course the only real solution is a colostomy that redirects that nasty old digestive system to a neat little spigot elsewhere, leaving the mangina tidy and committed to the deeds that nature ought to have prepared it for exclusively.

Although some tops have to get used to their bottoms looking a little like leathery beer kegs.

Erna eats shit

Celery juice will cure bacterial imbalances OP? You must be one of those people who never eats something that contains an ingredient they can’t pronounce.

OP, what makes you think that people who douche for whatever reason "like" to do it?

Oh, dear.

R91 One benefit with celery juice is it aids in digestion by giving you good bacteria. Gut health is one of the main reasons people suggest drinking a glass of celery juice a day.

R92 It can be somewhat therapeutic even if it’s not the funnest thing in the world to do.

Bottoming is so 2019. It's all about socially distant tantra in 2020. Throw away the prep and grab your yoga mats.

R76 literally what the fuck are you talking about, have you been smoking a lot of crack? There can't be 'yet another UKGuy dick pic' because there hasn't been one at all so far, so I don't know who's dick you're referring to but it's not mine. I meant in terms of evidence I've supplied previously of other physical attributes.

And no, I won't post a hole pic. My flower is sacred.

Just thought I'd leave this pic of my softie up for a short while to prove I'm good for my word

...go on :)

FUCK

Soft pictures are useless.

R98 LOL you bitches are never satisfied huh?

R99 I am

R100 present hole please

I'm about 5000 miles away from you sadly

Fill me R99

R103 what do you look like?

OP here. This is about bottoms reluctant to douche, not GrindrUK.

What's the bet the queens who douche pluck their eyebrows too? 'Clarins Queens' with shiny faces. Shudder!