Best and worst First Ladies
Leaving Melania out of the equation, who are the best and worst First Ladies?
Eleanor Roosevelt, Michele Obama and Jackie Kennedy were all remarkable for different reasons.
I'd put in a vote for Dolly (or Dolley) Madison, as she seemed like a person it would be a pleasure to know and basically was the first wife to focus on the social reception aspect of the White House.
Worst - Mary Todd Lincoln gets a lot of flack. But she suffered from severe mental illness, lost nearly all of her children and had her husband murdered in front of her. I think I'd give her the benefit of the doubt - she had a hideous life and did nothing to deserve her misfortunes.
Florence Harding sounds like a ball-buster for sure, but I kind of admire her feminist core. She also did a huge amount of charity and relief work. She probably would have made a better president than her mostly useless husband.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | September 6, 2020 12:30 AM
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Didn't Florence Harding poison her husband? That would probably move her to the top of the "worst" list.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | September 5, 2020 4:30 AM
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Jacqueline Kennedy was our greatest First Lady!
by Anonymous | reply 2 | September 5, 2020 4:59 AM
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[quote]Didn't Florence Harding poison her husband? That would probably move her to the top of the "worst" list.
If Melania did that, it would move her to the top of the "best" list.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | September 5, 2020 5:03 AM
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Eleanor Roosevelt was a mystery guest on "What's My Line?" Top that, Mamie Doud Eisenhower!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 4 | September 5, 2020 5:23 AM
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My secret wife, Irving, was no prize, either.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | September 5, 2020 5:45 AM
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R2. Read a book or two about Jackie Kennedy. She looked good in clothes but she wasn’t a great First Lady.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | September 5, 2020 6:17 AM
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Jackie Kennedy is my personal favorite.
I'm sure my posting history makes my least favorite pretty obvious.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | September 5, 2020 6:20 AM
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Nancy fucked Sinatra upstairs in the WH. Where does that place her.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | September 5, 2020 6:21 AM
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R8, upstairs in the White House and under Sinatra, I assume.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | September 5, 2020 2:33 PM
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Chasten Buttigieg was the worst.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | September 5, 2020 2:35 PM
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R1, oddly, if Melania did the same thing to her husband...
by Anonymous | reply 11 | September 5, 2020 2:38 PM
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It’s pretty sad how many people take gossip as fact.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | September 5, 2020 2:59 PM
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Favorite would be a tie between Eleanor Roosevelt & Dolley Madison.
Worst = Nancy Reagan
(and worst mother-in-law would be Bess Truman's mother)
I don't like the OP contemplating whether or not Mary Lincoln is the worst. Years ago there was a 6-hour documentary on PBS called "Abraham and Mary Lincoln: A House Divided," and not only did Mary suffer from severe depression and became increasingly unstable, but she was treated horribly after her husband's murder, fueling her insanity. Evaluating someone's place in history based on her illness doesn't seem quite right.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | September 5, 2020 3:11 PM
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Why leave Melania out?
She is the worst human being ever to fill the role of president's spouse. She is vapid, greedy, hateful, ignorant, detached, and disconnected to anything recognizably decent, American or humane.
Every other First Lady rises in estimation compared to that evil woman.
And, no, Mrs. Harding did not kill her husband. Nor did she long outlive him.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | September 5, 2020 3:15 PM
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R13, I was making that exact point.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | September 5, 2020 3:25 PM
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Margaret Taylor is my favorite first lady. She didn't really want any of the responsibilities and duties the role entailed so her daughter did the hostessing duties for state dinners and the like. No one in official Washington political or social circles knew what she looked like. Zachary Taylor's political opponents attempted to use her unwillingness to be a public first lady by insisting she was an uncouth backwoods woman with no social graces and so embarrasing that the Taylor administration made her live in the White House attic and wouldn't let her come downstairs. Not true. She was apparently a refined woman, just didn't want to do any of the public or social duties. When Zachary Taylor died, artists illustrating him on his deathbed had no idea how to portray her as they didn't know what she look like so they depicted her as sitting by his bedside with her face buried in a hankerchief as she was crying so hard.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | September 5, 2020 3:27 PM
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Lady Bird Johnson. Her "Make America Beautiful" campaign really did have a positive effect on the country. Second, I would say Jackie Kennedy. She set a tone of elegance and refinement that did influence design and popular culture in the early 60s.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | September 5, 2020 4:06 PM
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Coincidence that several Republican First Ladies were drunks. Mamie, Thelma (aka Pat) and Betty. Nancy serviced Frank Sinatra as a “starlet” before Ronnie “discovered” her. Babs just looked like the Quaker Oats guy and Laura liked her Pall Malls. Now we have a pole dancer who was shown her titties and hoo-hoo to the world.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | September 5, 2020 4:12 PM
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And worst, without a doubt is Melania. I do admire her rise from call girl to First Lady but she obviously doesn't want to do the work. She IS skilled at picking out stylish designer clothes, but that's about it.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | September 5, 2020 4:14 PM
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Another vote for Lady Bird, who was also acting First Lady during Jackie’s frequent absences from the White House.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | September 5, 2020 4:19 PM
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Mamie is my favorite for putting stuck up, greedy Jackie O in her place.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | September 5, 2020 4:21 PM
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Julia Tyler, wife of John Tyler and First Lady from 1844 to 1845. She was pretty awful, aggressively pro-slavery despite having grown up in East Hampton. Prior to the Civil War she wrote a passionate defense of slavery.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | September 5, 2020 4:23 PM
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[quote]And worst, without a doubt is Melania. I do admire her rise from call girl to First Lady but she obviously doesn't want to do the work.
Melania seems less like a first lady and more like a character in a Jackie Collins potboiler.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | September 5, 2020 4:48 PM
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Julia Tyler was quite grand R25. She didn't want to be called the First Lady, but the Lovely Lady Presidentress. She wore a tiara and had ladies in waiting. After the Civil War she was quite impoverished, widowed with 7 children to take care of and she spent a lot of time lobbying for a former first lady government pension.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | September 5, 2020 6:04 PM
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Mrs. Tyler sounds like a real bitch.
I was surprised to find out how fiery and politically-minded the first Mrs. Adams was. She would have snapped the current FLOTUS like a twig. Actually she probably would have snapped all of them like twigs.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | September 6, 2020 12:30 AM
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