“Seven Wonders” (1987) by Fleetwood Mac is such an underrated GEM of a song
I can’t believe this song peaked at 19 on the charts. It should have been a Top 10 hit at least! It’s so fucking good.
Stevie sounds incredible on this song, too. I can listen to this song on repeat easily.
Were they past their prime at this point, eldergays?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 154 | February 15, 2021 6:23 PM
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They were past their prime in 1979.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | August 26, 2020 5:30 AM
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Do we have a This Song Is A GEM troll, now?
by Anonymous | reply 2 | August 26, 2020 5:31 AM
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I loved this song too when it came out. I think by '87 the young radio listeners (remember radio?) and Mtv crowd had moved on to hair metal like Def Leppard and Whitesnake, etc. Seventies California rock was passe by then. Still, Tango in the Night was a great studio swan song, for the original popular (ie, including Buckingham-Nicks) lineup, until the cash grab reunion years later.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | August 26, 2020 5:35 AM
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I feel the same way about As Long As You Follow
by Anonymous | reply 4 | August 26, 2020 5:39 AM
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The melody is good. It's Lindsey's guitar lines (as usual) that attract attention and suck in the listener.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | August 26, 2020 5:40 AM
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Loved this song as a budding young gayling.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | August 26, 2020 5:46 AM
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Underrated? It got turned into a whole season of American Horror Story
by Anonymous | reply 7 | August 26, 2020 6:04 AM
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One of my favourites. It’s a gorgeous song.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | August 26, 2020 6:20 AM
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R9 You're calling ME a??!!?? I loathe a and her incessant posts.
Not sure where you get THAT from, toots.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | August 26, 2020 2:50 PM
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R9 Ooooops never mind, I misread that post. Literally should never post before the first cup of coffee! LOLOL
by Anonymous | reply 12 | August 26, 2020 2:56 PM
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R10, Lindsey left because of Mick Fleetwood's gas problem.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | August 26, 2020 2:58 PM
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Mick's farts played the oboe bits on the song
by Anonymous | reply 14 | August 26, 2020 2:59 PM
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Actually r1 tango in the night the album from which this came from was a smash in 1987.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | August 26, 2020 3:06 PM
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Like much of Tango in the Night, it was polished too hard, as was the norm by the mid-eighties. The production, especially the synth flourishes, makes it sound almost like children’s music to me in 2020.
I prefer the early version, though I guess the album version does bring me some warm nostalgia.
And I liked the Seven Wonders from AHS Apocalypse better than the Witches season.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 16 | August 26, 2020 3:13 PM
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R10 - I think Lindsey left because he was ask to leave.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | August 26, 2020 3:35 PM
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Was the best Stevie song since Violet & Blue, (which got stranded on the Against All Odds soundtrack until the remaster of Wild Heart), and deserved way better than No 19. She almost hits notes again (as opposed to most of Rock A Little, where she coos for lonely goatherders), and only sounds demonically possessed during a couple of adlibs at the end.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | August 26, 2020 3:38 PM
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Are we talking about an earlier departure of Lindsey, or the most recent one?
If it's the recent one, Lindsey was FIRED.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 20 | August 26, 2020 3:39 PM
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There’s something very sexy and intense about Lindsey’s expressions in this video. I like to imagine him making those faces as he works a thumb up my ass.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | August 26, 2020 3:41 PM
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I love the song: Stevie’s vocals were dreadful during this period, but she did the best that she could here. I got to see Fleetwood Mac (the full Rumours lineup) perform this a few years ago. They hadn’t done it live since the ‘80s.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | August 26, 2020 3:43 PM
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One of the great things about Fleetwood Mac is that they came up with variations on their sound for every album, right down to handmade recording techniques of their own (well, Lindsey's) invention. Lindsey acquired a Fairlight (which help give acts like Kate Bush and Peter Gabriel their sound) for Tango to create a more modern sound, then manipulated those sounds with his own layering and speed up/slow down techniques. The result is that while Tango does indeed sound "80's", it also sounds uniquely Fleetwood Mac. The guitar parts on the album are exquisite (listen to Mystified and Isn't It Midnight) and among the best in the band's catalog. Lindsey put a huge amount of effort into this record while keeping it to himself that he intended it to be his last for the band. The recording process was a nightmare and Lindsey considered it the band's darkest period, which is saying a lot. Stevie was a wreck at this time but Lindsey somehow managed to coax Seven Wonders out of her.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 23 | August 26, 2020 4:14 PM
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R23 - Isn't the song "Big Love" on Tango in the Night?
by Anonymous | reply 24 | August 26, 2020 4:19 PM
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[R24] Yes - it was the lead single and hit #5. At 15 million copies worldwide, Tango is the band's second most successful album after Rumours and was especially popular in Europe.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | August 26, 2020 4:23 PM
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The lack of popularity and record sales don't mean a song isn't great. There are literally hundreds of truly great songs that never made the Top 40 let alone the Top 10. It's a combination of promotion, timing and some luck.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | August 26, 2020 4:30 PM
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R16 is correct. His/her earlier version of the song is so much better... but it's still overproduced, too amped up, too kitchen sink-y in that awful corporate-rock 1980s way. I'd like to hear what an "unplugged" version sounds like.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | August 26, 2020 4:32 PM
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Stevie took a trip to the Betty Ford Center in fall 1986 and managed to record her parts for TANGO and was back on the road by fall 1987.....I saw a couple of the ROCK A LITTLE shows and she was a mess....almost like an impersonation of THE ROSE....she really was lucky to have lived through that chapter...,it would be hard to imagine such a quick return to work in the 2020 recovery-sober aware world we are in now... and hearing SEVEN WONDERS, LITTLE LIES and EVERYWHERE live in 2014 for the first time with the TANGO 5 was amazing......one more cool thing about the 80’s was that dance mixes were all the rage so there were 12” dance mixes of BIG LOVE-SEVEN WONDERS-LITTLE LIES
by Anonymous | reply 28 | August 26, 2020 4:39 PM
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Lindsey looks like he is absorbing this moment with the band. It is very clear he was ready to leave and you see it on his face as you watch this video. You can see that look on his face.
R21 I don’t see sexual, I see a bit of sadness behind those eyes
by Anonymous | reply 29 | August 26, 2020 4:46 PM
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I always found the video weird with Lindsay goosestepping around the set and Stevie looks at him to say, WF?
by Anonymous | reply 30 | August 26, 2020 4:51 PM
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One reason for the sometimes surprisingly modest chart performance of Fleetwood Mac singles that are considered massive hits (Rhiannon peaked at #11; Gypsy peaked at #12) is because the band straddled Pop and AOR radio formats. This meant that while many of their songs were in heavy rotation on AOR, months might elapse before they were released as singles on the Pop chart, by which time they were already familiar to a huge audience that wasn't necessarily in the market to buy them as singles. If one goes off radio plays alone it all makes more sense (e.g., the original Landslide was never released as a single but was a massive radio hit in terms of overall number of plays).
by Anonymous | reply 31 | August 26, 2020 4:59 PM
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I never liked the song Little Lies
by Anonymous | reply 32 | August 26, 2020 8:10 PM
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[quote]Underrated? It got turned into a whole season of American Horror Story
Exactly. American Horror Story: Coven.
Not only did Ryan get Stevie to make an appearance on the show but he shot a video of her performing it, using his actresses in character to open the show.
As annoyed as I am at the man's work lately -- this was cute.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 33 | August 26, 2020 8:18 PM
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Welcome To The Room...Sara is a great track from Tango In The Night about her stint in rehab.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 35 | August 27, 2020 1:06 AM
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[R35] While I can appreciate your enthusiasm, WELCOME TO THE ROOM, SARA is just plain awful. No recognizable melody, no narrative throughline and insular, recycled lyrics (the third verse - "downstairs this old house is mine" - is lifted from BLUE LAMP) that make no sense at all. Her vocals are ragged and she sounds kind of desperate - the girl who sang RHIANNON has been replaced by a coked-out zombie.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | August 27, 2020 1:48 AM
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[R36] Excuse me - brandy and Klonopin at that point.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | August 27, 2020 2:25 AM
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R35 I don't know if I can agree with you. If I can start singing this song in my head by just reading the title, doesn't that say something positive?
by Anonymous | reply 38 | August 27, 2020 2:36 AM
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The 1997 version of Silver Springs from "The Dance" was a pretty big hit and it's actually one of my favorite FM songs. Stevie's vocals were great. The album got 3 Grammy nominations.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | August 27, 2020 2:37 AM
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Fleetwood Mac is such a wonderful batshit crazy mess.
I'm reading Mick's autobio now, and I'm up to the part where Bob Welch joined and they just had to fire Danny Kirwan and JESUS all the members before Nicks and Buckingham make them look sane.
Peter Green and Jeremy Spencer were both crazy and John McVie was a horrible lush.
Then flash to 1987 and Buckingham all burt hutt that Stevie's music without his production made her a superstar and most didn't give a shit about his solo stuff and BOOM:
THE PARKING LOT INCIDENT
by Anonymous | reply 40 | August 27, 2020 2:38 AM
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^ and I'm talking Faye Dunaway crazy - all of 'em
by Anonymous | reply 41 | August 27, 2020 2:40 AM
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In my mind Fleetwood Mac never existed before Nicks joined. She was Fleetwood Mac.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | August 27, 2020 2:41 AM
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Welcome to the Room Sara has a great demo.
Buckingham fucked that one up
by Anonymous | reply 44 | August 27, 2020 2:49 AM
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Love it too
I had no idea where Emmeline was, but I SO wanted to go there.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | August 27, 2020 3:01 AM
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Emmeline was Stevie's name for her PUSSY, you dipshit.
She has said so numerous times.
"Emmeline was my PUSSY!"
by Anonymous | reply 47 | August 27, 2020 3:17 AM
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Yeah R47, it's that other poster that's a dipshit.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | August 27, 2020 3:23 AM
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I heard Mick and Stevie didnt really partipate in the making of the tango album because they were all heavy drug abusers around that time. I believe Lindsey mostly did all the work...
by Anonymous | reply 49 | August 27, 2020 3:31 AM
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Stevie was in rehab for most of it for her cocaine addiction and only lent her vocals when she could.
She ended up addicted to something else after getting off cocaine.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | August 27, 2020 3:36 AM
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Tango in the Night was my introduction to Fleetwood Mac. I was 11. I was entranced by the album cover and the first single Big Love.
I really liked the album. For me, Christine is the MVP of TITN. Little Lies and Everywhere are fantastic. However, I do love Seven Wonders. I'm glad that despite her issues, Stevie was still able to leave her mark on Tango.
The band really has a messy history. But then Lindsay did do most of the work and did his best to make it seem like Stevie was still an integral part of the recording. And I think she sounds okay on the album.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | August 27, 2020 3:47 AM
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People always praise Little Lies and I think it’s an awful song lol
by Anonymous | reply 52 | August 27, 2020 3:50 AM
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I love Stevie but when Tango came out, I was all fucked up by "Welcome to the Room, Sara". Who the fuck is Sara? Is it the same Sara as in the song "Sara"? Why is she sequelizing a song? If not. . .was there not ANOTHER name she could have used? And what's with the "Gone With the Wind" references with Scariett and Tara? Was she just watching the then one-time-a-year CBS broadcast while writing the song? I enjoyed the rhythm but the lyrics were just too sloppy. DL? Explain.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | August 27, 2020 4:46 AM
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Who the hell can hate Little Lies. That song and Everywhere are two best tracks on the album. Christine sure knew how to write a hit song.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | August 27, 2020 4:48 AM
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The obsession with Fleetwood Mac among DLers is genuinely astonishing. (And I'm an eldergay who remembers when all those records came out.)
by Anonymous | reply 56 | August 27, 2020 4:54 AM
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R55 no one mentioned Everywhere being bad. I said I don’t like Little Lies. Not Everywhere. They sound nothing alike so...
by Anonymous | reply 57 | August 27, 2020 5:07 AM
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R55, and Lindsey sure knows how to arrange and produce them esp for Christine’s songs.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | August 27, 2020 5:12 AM
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I love Christine's huge solo hit, "Got a Hold on Me" from 1984. Lindsey played guitar on it. Steve Winwood played synthesizers.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 59 | August 27, 2020 5:20 AM
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R57, where did I ask how can anyone hate Everywhere? I didn't. I was just stating my opinion that Little Lies and Everywhere the two best songs on the album.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | August 27, 2020 1:51 PM
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I was listening to mostly R&B in 1987, with a little pop on the side. "Seven Wonders" is the only one of the 4 "Tango in the Night" singles that I don't remember ever hearing on the radio.
Listening to it now, the chorus is glorious. Stevie sounds very passionate. The synth riff is...unfortunate in 2020, but I'm sure it was fine for 1987.
From a commercial standpoint, the song wasn't a bigger hit for 2, maybe 3 reasons.
1. The verses are melodically mundane. They are placeholders until you hit that chorus.
2. It's not abundantly clear after a few listens what exactly the song is about. For the masses to really take a song into their hearts and love it, they usually (not always, but usually) have to understand it, and relate to it personally. If the meaning doesn't jump out at you and hit you over the head and grab you by the throat after the first couple of listens, a song is at a distinct disadvantage.
3. Stevie Nicks music is a mood, and Lindsey's production here is killing the mood. Whatever that mysterious gypsy-fairy-witchiness thing about her is, which is what makes Stevie Stevie, and which is what people love about her, is really stifled here. It's there, but it seems buried under all that studio sheen.
Good song, though. Thanks for bringing it up. I'm going to definitely listen to it more now.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | August 27, 2020 2:09 PM
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always loved "family man" on that album (along with the released singles that were hits)... buckingham's guitar work is so hypnotic and good on this song.. like his hit single "trouble"....
by Anonymous | reply 62 | August 27, 2020 2:16 PM
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My favorite Fleetwood Mac video is Gypsy and Gypsy is the top five of my favorite Fleetwood Mac songs.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | August 27, 2020 2:21 PM
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Did not Stevie Nicks same in an interview years ago that the love of her life was Joe Walsh?
Maybe I need to put the crack pipe down.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | August 27, 2020 2:22 PM
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Her voice here is like dry shit scraping the toilet bowl. Was she really admired for her singing voice? Mind-boggling!!!!
by Anonymous | reply 65 | August 27, 2020 2:25 PM
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Gypsy is also my favorite, the demo is excellent too.
I love Seven Wonders as well, it's in my top 5 favorite FM songs. I don't find it overproduced, there's a lot going on in this song but it all works.
If you want to talk about overproduced corporate 80s rock look no further than Chicago. They were fantastic in the 70s but then David Foster go a hold of them, changed their entire sound and basically turned them into Huey Lewis and the News. Their 80s stuff is mostly garbage, as is most of David Foster's shit.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | August 27, 2020 2:31 PM
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R64, Joe is the love of Stevie's life but she did say from all the men she dated Lindsey love her the most and according to her he still couldn’t get over it.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | August 27, 2020 2:51 PM
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Lindsey was always jealous that Stevie had a huge solo career and he didn't.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | August 27, 2020 2:53 PM
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Lindsey was never gonna be a big solo act. He needed to get over it. He worked as someone in a band, not as a solo star.
Stevie was a STAR.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | August 27, 2020 3:13 PM
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“Hypnotized” is, to me, Fleetwood Mac’s best tune...
by Anonymous | reply 70 | August 27, 2020 3:18 PM
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This thread has DL's resident music critic, who can suck the life and joy out of any song with his tedious overanalysis of everything.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | August 27, 2020 3:20 PM
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r68 You are correct. Lindsey is a bitter old man. Watching him act all extra in the Seven Wonders video I felt 2nd hand embarrassment.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | August 27, 2020 3:24 PM
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Stevie was a STAR baby. A solo career was inevitable. She was destined to be huge, she was too unique and her look was too fabulous to just be part of a band.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | August 27, 2020 3:26 PM
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Stevie stood out in a good way since she joined. It was all natural, too. She always had that IT to her. She was destined for superstardom as a solo act, even if her music wasn’t that great, people would show interest.
No one was sitting around waiting for Lindsey.
When people think of Fleetwood Mac they know Stevie Nicks. Many don’t know any of the other members names.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | August 27, 2020 3:34 PM
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I've never been a fan of Tango in the Night. Their last good album was Tusk.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | August 27, 2020 3:40 PM
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I would love to be able to go back in time and just be a fly on the wall watching them make Rumours or Tusk. It must've been quite a scene.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | August 27, 2020 3:44 PM
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[R54] Stevie checked into Betty Ford under the name "Sara ___(I forget the surname)", which is the Sara of this particular song. WELCOME TO THE ROOM is about her going to rehab, although you'll be forgiven if you can't glean that from the zonked-out Stevie lyrical miasma.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | August 27, 2020 3:48 PM
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[quote]It's not abundantly clear after a few listens what exactly the song is about.
You could say that about any Stevie song.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | August 27, 2020 5:15 PM
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Like another poster in this thread, Tango was my intro to Fleetwood Mac. I was 14 when it came out and my mom bought the cassette tape, she had loved Rumours (which I had definitely heard when I was younger, but it didn't sink in).
My early favorite was Christine's "Isn't It Midnight" which I think I took to for the driving beat and that almost hair-metal-like guitar riff. "Little Lies" was also great, I love that liquid guitar sound.
This album is lifetime Top 10 for me, I might like it more than "Rumours." Definitely not Stevie's best FM record though. I agree that "Seven Wonders" is great and "Welcome to the Room Sara" is a decent song. "When I See You Again" is pretty boring thought it still achieves a nice haunted quality.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | August 27, 2020 5:38 PM
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"Family Man" sounds like it's imitating the style of Michael Jackson. If Lindsey had written better lyrics, I think it would have been a lot bigger.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | August 27, 2020 5:42 PM
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Another obscure WELCOME TO THE ROOM reference - when Stevie sings "Frontline baby" she's referring to Frontline Management - the management company she fired before she went to rehab and who she blamed for likely imaginary offenses.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | August 27, 2020 5:43 PM
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Lindsey never tried to be a big solo star. Stevie might be the band's most recognizable member but Lindsey has all of the respect and prestige. He's always talked of having a dual career (the "big machine" of FM vs. the "little machine" of his solo work) and I doubt he has many professional regrets, aside from wishing the band made more records. If you think Lindsey was going for a big time, mainstream solo career, here's the opening track from LAW AND ORDER, his solo debut. He wasn't trying to be Billy Idol or Billy Squire.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 82 | August 27, 2020 6:06 PM
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That is what Lindsey wants you to believe. In reality he was envious of Nicks career.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | August 27, 2020 6:09 PM
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[R83] Then why would be put out an album like LAW AND ORDER? Snarky but not true. Lindsey produced Rumours, for god's sake. He knew what was commercial and what wasn't. He was probably just mighty annoyed by Stevie's narcissism and self-importance. There's no way he was going to do for his solo career what Stevie was willing to do for hers. He's an introvert and a genius. She's neither.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | August 27, 2020 6:20 PM
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Here’s mine, OP. This song GUTS me.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 85 | August 27, 2020 6:23 PM
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Lindsey is from that 70s toxic masculinity generation of rock guys who treated women like shit and were impossibly arrogant and egomaniacal. They thought they were the center of the universe, of course Lindsey was jealous that Stevie had a huge solo career and he didn't.
Nobody today could get away with the behavior of the male rock stars from Lindsey's generation.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | August 27, 2020 6:37 PM
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[R86] Shove your "toxic masculinity" bullshit. There's no such thing. You really think human nature has fundamentally changed since the 1970's? I know your type of misandry is in vogue in certain quarters (paging Rose McGowen) but it has no basis in fact. Tedious woke crap.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | August 27, 2020 6:52 PM
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I meant that those 70s guys engaged in behavior that would get them arrested today. They treated women like shit and were very arrogant. I'm male, btw.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | August 27, 2020 6:57 PM
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Lindsey, Don Henley, Glen Frey and many others were all a bunch of entitled assholes. Great musicians, but real shits in their private lives.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | August 27, 2020 7:04 PM
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[quote] Who the fuck is Sara? Is it the same Sara as in the song "Sara"?
As mentioned above, Sara is the name Stevie checked into Betty Ford under. The Sara in the song “Sara” is Sara Recor Fleetwood, a friend of Stevie’s who married Mick, and also the unborn child of Stevie and Don Henley, which Stevie aborted.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | August 27, 2020 7:09 PM
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The B-side to the “Seven Wonders” single is “Book of Miracles,” an instrumental version of the song “Juliet.” “Juliet” was demo’d for Tango in the Night,” and ultimately appeared on Stevie’s next solo album, The Other Side of the Mirror.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 92 | August 27, 2020 7:14 PM
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I love that Stevie wrote a song about her aborted fetus.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | August 27, 2020 7:20 PM
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Producing many of Fleetwood Mac's albums made Buckingham a very wealthy man.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | August 27, 2020 7:21 PM
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And singing on them made Nicks very wealthy.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | August 27, 2020 7:43 PM
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[R90] Not any moreso than those in professional sports. I really don't see the point. If people wanted art by "nice" people only there'd be no Picasso and the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel would be blank.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | August 27, 2020 7:50 PM
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Of course r97. I was just saying that the guys from that era were fucking assholes and nobody could get away with that kind of behavior today. I still love their music.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | August 27, 2020 8:02 PM
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The reason men cannot get away with bad behavior today is because few women are willing to put up with it no matter how much benefit is involved.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | August 27, 2020 8:49 PM
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You and I, Pt 2 is a great song
by Anonymous | reply 100 | August 27, 2020 9:11 PM
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R76, there's a great book called Making Rumours, written by one of the engineers of the album. He talks about the band being sequestered in Sausilito, showing up at the studio at 4 in the afternoon, doing blow until 11 and then start jamming, Stevie showing up with her girl crew. You should read it.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | August 27, 2020 9:29 PM
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I can't hear this song without thinking of its appearance on American Horror Story. I still shudder at the second hand embarrassment.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | August 27, 2020 9:41 PM
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[quote] I was all fucked up by "Welcome to the Room, Sara". Who the fuck is Sara? Is it the same Sara as in the song "Sara"? Why is she sequelizing a song?
Deja vu.
[quote] WELCOME TO THE ROOM is about her going to rehab
Oh I see.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | August 27, 2020 10:09 PM
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I thought "Emmaline" was Stevie mishearing the lyrics "all the way down the line"?
by Anonymous | reply 104 | August 27, 2020 10:21 PM
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It was “All the way down you held the line,” but yes. Stevie misheard it.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | August 27, 2020 10:27 PM
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[quote]In my mind Fleetwood Mac never existed before Nicks joined. She was Fleetwood Mac.
Nah. Heroes Are Hard To Find has a few tracks that would easily have fitted on later albums. This one by C. McVie is gorgeous.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 106 | August 27, 2020 10:40 PM
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She got a co-writing credit for mishearing it as “all the way down to Emmaline”? I love Stevie but if I were Sandy Stewart I would be pissed.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | August 27, 2020 10:52 PM
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One of my fave Stevie tracks.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | August 28, 2020 12:34 AM
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They are so going through the motions in that video. It all comes off as so rote and mechanical. They are attempting the kind of success fellow 70’s rockers Heart had in the mid 80’s but without as good material. Also, John McVie sticks out like a sore thumb. He looks like he wandered onto the set after sneaking away from his garage band in New Jersey.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | September 7, 2020 1:02 PM
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[quote] They are attempting the kind of success fellow 70’s rockers Heart had in the mid 80’s but without as good material.
Surely you jest.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | September 8, 2020 12:41 AM
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I loved Tango in the Night. I was 16 and not particularly familiar with Fleetwood Mac when it came out. I found it haunting, and still do— mostly thanks to Lindz.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | October 3, 2020 4:13 AM
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R112 Lindsay isn’t a star. Get over it.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | October 3, 2020 4:18 AM
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Heart had some fucking great material in the 80s.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | October 3, 2020 4:45 AM
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"Ooh My Love" from 1989 is a lost masterpiece and the best by far off The Dark Side Of The Mirror album, should have been the first single but tragically was never officially released
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 115 | October 3, 2020 11:13 AM
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R115- Can you copy and paste that article? I want to read it but don't want to subscribe
by Anonymous | reply 116 | October 3, 2020 1:17 PM
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Ooh My Love is a great song. I also love her cover of I Still Miss Someone from that album.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 117 | October 3, 2020 1:52 PM
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The linked article from Rolling Stone does not require a subscription to read
by Anonymous | reply 118 | October 4, 2020 3:04 PM
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I’ve never gotten the love for “Ooh My Love”. The lyrics are so clunky.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | October 4, 2020 5:56 PM
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This song is terrible. You can tell is was pieced together and pitch shifted by syllable because Stevie was drunk off her ass and on Klonopin. A real stinker of a song.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | October 19, 2020 12:41 AM
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R40 Lindz is nutz but Stevie went after him first with fists. Reading Mick Fleetwood's book you get the impression that he has jars of Stevie's coke farts that he smells from time to time. She fucked him maybe 5 times and he acts like they had some great love affair. Hilarious.
by Anonymous | reply 121 | October 19, 2020 12:52 AM
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The last thing the world needs is more spoiled rock star kids. I hear Robert Plant's son is a bum in Thailand. I loathe to imagine what he gets up to there. Stevie's kid would have been born addicted to crack anyway. Good riddance.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | October 19, 2020 1:04 AM
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Seven Wonders is one of my favorite Fleetwood Mac songs. My parents bought the Tango In the Night album and I listened to it constantly, that was my introduction to Fleetwood Mac. So many memories.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | October 19, 2020 2:18 AM
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Phenomenal song on a good album
by Anonymous | reply 124 | January 31, 2021 1:12 AM
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Horrible song on a DATED album.
I will stand by Mirage over this dated 80's shitshow.
Emmeline can lick my ass. It's some cocaine deprived song out of Stevie's Klonopin mind. Its a clunker.
And Seven Wonders SUCKS MY GRANMOTHERS NO-NO- LIVE!
If Stevie fucks it up live, it's sucks.
Isn't It Midnight and Big Love is all this dated 80's time capsule offers.
Everywhere is background music of department stores that went bankrupt LONG AGO.
Hate Tango. Hate Seven Wonders. And Stevie is an egotist bore.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | January 31, 2021 1:20 AM
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Stevie barely even had any input on this album 🙄🙄🙄 r125
by Anonymous | reply 126 | January 31, 2021 1:22 AM
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R126- EXACTLY. She barely had any input because her input SUCKED MY GRANNY'S LEFT RUMP!
Its a fucking horrible album
Bankrupt Mick.
Stevie barely off coke and FAT and doped on Klonopin. Barely able to contribute. And fuck- she didn't even write the shitshow that was "Seven Wonders"
Yeah, what a wonder.
Christine's music was some kind of 80's capsule of shit. Everywhere is literally a Kohl's background song.
Big Love HOLDS UP.
Isn't It Midnight DOES WORK.
Horrible album. Shocked at its success at the time.
And shocked at its respect now.
It's horrible.
by Anonymous | reply 127 | January 31, 2021 1:26 AM
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R127 The album was made because Mick needed money. No one was happy. Stevie blames Lindsey and Mick for everything wrong in her life but after Belladonna she should have just left Fleetwood Mac alone. Stevie was a huge bag of misery and her diva machinations like threatening to call Rolling Stone magazine and shit on the album and asking for a huge percentage of tour revenue was driving everyone nuts. Lindsey held it together up until the end but 18 months of bull crap from Mick and Stevie drove him insane. You have got to give Christine credit for holding it together and lending 2 pretty solid hits so Mick and Stevie could pay their drug/rehab debts.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | January 31, 2021 2:25 AM
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R128- I am going to give you that! Former MASSIVE Stevie fan (NO MORE)
And hell, Isn't It Midnight and Big Love are the only songs on the album worth ANYTHING. So I will give Christine that.
However, I have issues with Christine's loyalty to Lindsey NOW and have no use for this bitch. Money. Money. Money. Fuck her and her plastic surgery. (That face will always stop clocks)
I stand by the fact that this album is pure shit, and it is truly a miracle that it succeeded during this time in music history. In my memory it was Expose, INXS, Janet Jackson.. Guns and Roses, and Hard Rock. Real Rock. Its amazing that it went platinum at all. Its glossy and slick- and boring as fuck.
R128 does nail the situation at that time. And its more than fair.
by Anonymous | reply 129 | January 31, 2021 2:34 AM
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R129 I don't think Lindsey is blameless. He has Aspergers, which is in part why he is so good at what he does but makes him hard to be around. I think Stevie has some innate mental issues too that she has not resolved. He does seem to be either medicated or has gone through years of therapy and the fact that he has been happily married with children who seem to adore him is a good indicator of where he is now. Mick and Stevie pulled a fast one on Christine. She could have quit when Lindsey was fired, but remember that Azoff is a dirty asshole who has been known to blackmail people.... And there are some let's say 'interesting' photos of Christine floating around the internet. In an interview from Septemeber or October Stevie complained that I one had called her. Hmmmm I wonder why.
by Anonymous | reply 130 | January 31, 2021 3:26 AM
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R131 Stevie also took a huge shit on Mick Fleetwood in her most recent Guardian interview, blaming his infidelity on him while absolving herself of blame in the affair and painting herself out to be a victim. She's absolutely bitter about being an old single lady woman, again blaming men for not being attracted to her instead of her past of being the human equivalent of a mattress in a crack den . No rich straight dude wants an old crack whore whose little black book is the size of the bible, Stevie. She had plenty of chances to attract a man but blew it every time. She had 4 chances to be a mother and she scraped that coochie each time. She could have walked away from fame but she didn't. That is her own fault, not Mick Fleetwood's for making her tour or whatever.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | February 2, 2021 7:46 PM
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Stevie's capacity to blame others for her own poor choices is almost monstrous. That's what you get being surrounded by "yes" people for the better part of a half-century. It's not good for a person's psyche or soul. She has a knack for making her outrageous statements sounds plausible - like equating taking cocaine to "mom's diet pill." Think of how many Pablo Escobars her and the band funded during their endless drug years - and how many corpses those drugs cost. She's in no position to blame or lecture anyone - she should spend her last years in penance instead of whining about how Covid has made it impossible for her to grow her fortune croaking out her old hits for the 10,000th time. She's really obnoxious.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | February 2, 2021 8:29 PM
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[R132] I'm curious where the 4 abortions story came from. She acknowledges the one abortion with Don Henley's child but I haven't heard of others. I know I'm risking a crucifixion here but I think it's inexcusable to have 4 abortions when so many reliable methods of birth control are available - especially for a wealthy woman. Is fucking bareback so wonderful you'd resort to abortions to do it? Yuck. No impulse control.
by Anonymous | reply 134 | February 2, 2021 9:18 PM
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R134 It's from an interview she did in 1992.
[quote] But now there is remorse at the havoc her abortions have wreaked on her psyche. "To give up four babies is to give up a lot that would be here now. So that bothers me, a lot, and really breaks my heart. But they're gone, so..." She composes herself. "But I couldn't have because I was too busy. And I had all these commitments." She wants to adopt, but age and single-parenthood are against her.
by Anonymous | reply 135 | February 2, 2021 9:36 PM
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[R135] Thanks. At least she expressed remorse. That's something. I guess ("I was too busy").
by Anonymous | reply 136 | February 2, 2021 9:46 PM
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I cannot believe I've never seen Fleetwood Mac live.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | February 2, 2021 10:24 PM
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[R137] And now odds are you never will.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | February 2, 2021 10:50 PM
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Stevie Nicks is terrible at writing lyrics.
by Anonymous | reply 139 | February 2, 2021 10:56 PM
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R139 She didn't write the lyrics to Seven Wonders. She was too smacked out of her mind and Sandy Stewart wrote the song for her. Stevie peaked with Dreams but it all went down from there. Her lyrics for Rhiannon, Landslide, and Silver Springs are overrated and Edge of 17 is a joke song but Dreams is very lyrically clever. Gold Dust Woman has great lyrics too. Stevie was absolutely the best singer/lyricist in Fleetwood Mac, but her melodies needed the most dressing up *ahem* ghostwriting *ahem*.
by Anonymous | reply 140 | February 2, 2021 11:06 PM
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Stevie could never hit the high notes again after Tusk. For that matter, the entire band was never as good after that.
by Anonymous | reply 141 | February 2, 2021 11:22 PM
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R141 when people started realizing that cocaine ruined their voices, they started getting it blown up their assholes with straws. Ingenious!
by Anonymous | reply 142 | February 2, 2021 11:46 PM
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The chorus is super fucking cheesy
by Anonymous | reply 144 | February 3, 2021 2:27 AM
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I think it's important to remember that Tango in the Night helped introduce them to a whole new audience/generation. I was 11 when Tango in the Night came out. So, I did not know about Rumors, or Tusk, or Mirage. But I loved Tango and its singles.
It had been a decade since Rumors and five years since Mirage, which is a long time in pop music. So Tango was successful because it appeased loyal fans but also picked up newer, often younger, fans.
by Anonymous | reply 145 | February 3, 2021 6:48 AM
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R145 are you British? Tango seemed to have a much larger impact in the UK than in the US.
by Anonymous | reply 146 | February 3, 2021 7:24 PM
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Welcome to the Room, Sara is a wonderful song. More info on Sara as Stevie's Muse in addition to other facts already stated:
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 147 | February 3, 2021 7:48 PM
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[quote] Welcome to the room Sara
Buckingham, Fleetwood, and the McVies saved her ass on that song. It's a non-song with one of Stevie's rehashed melodies that was saved with obsessive production and layered instrumentalisation.
by Anonymous | reply 148 | February 3, 2021 8:27 PM
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[R148] As well as some nonsense lyrics recycled from BLUE LAMP (ooo downstairs where the big old house is mine/ooo upstairs where the stars laugh and shine", etc.) - recorded during the BELLA DONNA sessions but included on the HEAVY METAL soundtrack.
by Anonymous | reply 149 | February 4, 2021 5:34 PM
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Wow, I didn't realize Tango in the Night peaked at number 7. Considering it issued four top 20 songs and it was from a popular band, you would have thought it would have charted higher.
by Anonymous | reply 150 | February 11, 2021 8:54 PM
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In retrospect, the Tango tour was the beginning of Fleetwood Mac circling the drain. And I say that as a fan.
by Anonymous | reply 151 | February 11, 2021 9:53 PM
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R150 Fleetwood Mac was an album band, not a singles band. They have sold way more albums than one would assume judging by how their singles charted. One of their most popular songs "The Chain" wasn't even a single.
by Anonymous | reply 152 | February 11, 2021 10:31 PM
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Seven Wonders is the worst song on Tango in the Night. This was around the time that Stevie Nicks got fat and became an even more white trash parody of herself with that monstrous drag queen wig.
by Anonymous | reply 153 | February 12, 2021 11:57 PM
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