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Queen Elizabeth's Grandfather King George V Was Put Down Like A Old Sick Dog
by Anonymous | reply 54 | August 22, 2020 9:52 PM |
What, you don't think this happens every day of the week in hospitals now? The drugs and their administration are now far more refined, but every day doctors have these conversations with families as to 'making their loved one comfortable' while shutting down their bodies. Its the most humane thing to do near the end of terminal cases.
I hope it happens to me when the time comes.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | August 22, 2020 1:42 AM |
This fact has been known for decades. I’m bemused that it is still reported as news!
by Anonymous | reply 2 | August 22, 2020 1:49 AM |
Public since1986. Jackie Onassis and Linda McCartney chose their deaths, too. Sensible. I wish more states allowed it.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | August 22, 2020 1:53 AM |
Okay. I hope I get the same deal.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | August 22, 2020 1:57 AM |
We should all be so lucky.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | August 22, 2020 1:58 AM |
Keep the coke, hold the morphine.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | August 22, 2020 2:03 AM |
Why not just pure morphine? Why the cocaine?
by Anonymous | reply 7 | August 22, 2020 2:05 AM |
WUXTRY! WUXTRY! READ ALL ABOUT IT! TITANIC HITS ICEBERG! MRS. ASTOR SAFE!
by Anonymous | reply 8 | August 22, 2020 2:07 AM |
We took my Mom off of life-sustaining equipment when we were told her heart was bleeding onto her other organs. The doctor gave her a strong dose of morphine because she would have a hard time breathing off of the equipment. If it was intent on making the end quicker, I have no qualms. He make her comfortable until the very end.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | August 22, 2020 2:09 AM |
They should have offed the Queen Mother the same way. Useless cunt.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | August 22, 2020 2:14 AM |
Regicide! Was he hanged?
Or at least well hung?
by Anonymous | reply 11 | August 22, 2020 2:17 AM |
PNP
Party 'n Perish.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | August 22, 2020 2:29 AM |
It always seemed strange that bronchial problems and a weak heart necessitated euthanasia. There's more to the underlying cause.
George's end was timed to fit the printing of the newspapers for the story.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | August 22, 2020 2:34 AM |
George V was directly responsible for the execution of his cousin Tsar Nicholas II and his immediate family. He denied them sanctuary in England so they were forced to stay in Russia and face a firing squad.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | August 22, 2020 2:52 AM |
Suicide and being euthanized are a sin, only the Lord can decide when its our time.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | August 22, 2020 2:53 AM |
The Romanovs were related to all of European royalty too, r14, and none of them offered sanctuary either. So why is the Bolsheviks' murder of the family solely George V's fault?
by Anonymous | reply 16 | August 22, 2020 2:57 AM |
[quote] George's end was timed to fit the printing of the newspapers for the story.
That's right.
See link: "Dawson wrote that he acted to preserve the King's dignity, to prevent further strain on the family, and so that the King's death at 11:55 p.m. could be announced in the morning edition of The Times newspaper rather than "less appropriate ... evening journals"."
by Anonymous | reply 17 | August 22, 2020 2:58 AM |
It should made available for people who find no joy in life. But we have a very perverse attitude towards death. It is an inevitable part of life but it must be avoided at all costs. Why must one drown or slice oneself up or choke to death on vomit after an overdose? When your body realizes it's dying it starts doing everything to live. Very unpleasant.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | August 22, 2020 3:03 AM |
Down, King, down!
by Anonymous | reply 19 | August 22, 2020 3:03 AM |
I was assisting a doc extubating a lung cancer patient that was totally with it, but couldn’t breathe off the vent (after numerous tries). She was fairly long-term in ICU, and I became close to her and her two 20-something daughters.
She chose to end all treatment, and come off the vent. the doc just told me to grab handfuls of IV Ativan and morphine, and keep injecting as fast as I could to keep her from gasping for air while dying.
The daughters threw themselves on the bed as she died smiling and just wailed endlessly.
I developed hives afterwards from the stress of it all and had to take a week off work.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | August 22, 2020 3:04 AM |
You did the right thing, R20...sorry it was so traumatic.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | August 22, 2020 3:12 AM |
He was hot
by Anonymous | reply 22 | August 22, 2020 3:14 AM |
He was king during Downton Abbey.
In a shocking twist, the actors they got to portray the Kind and his wife were less attractive.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | August 22, 2020 3:19 AM |
[quote] They should have offed the Queen Mother the same way. Useless cunt.
Cookie
by Anonymous | reply 24 | August 22, 2020 3:45 AM |
R9 What a tough situation for you. I'm so sorry. It was a bit like when my dad died.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | August 22, 2020 3:49 AM |
[quote] They should have offed the Queen Mother the same way. Useless cunt.
God knows I tried.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | August 22, 2020 3:50 AM |
R26 King George V looks a lot like Kate Middleton's brother, James. But, James seems like a sweetheart who loves his dogs.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | August 22, 2020 4:12 AM |
George V was an old hypocrite who fucked prostitutes in Bognor but wouldn't allow divorced people into the Royal Enclosure at Ascot.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | August 22, 2020 4:17 AM |
Morphine is a cheap and effective painkiller. You may have cancer, whatever, but what quickly kills you is the increasing doses of morphine to relieve the pain. One relative with lung lymphoma was "euthanised" put to sleep with massive doses of morphine because the pain of being alive was physically unbearable.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | August 22, 2020 4:34 AM |
Cheap? Effective? Where can I get some?
by Anonymous | reply 30 | August 22, 2020 4:43 AM |
Queen Elizabeth's father then had to take the name George when he became King as a tribute to his father instead of using his own name.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | August 22, 2020 5:57 AM |
My father was ushered off by morphine, much like others have described here. It was a mercy. We kept him “alive” too long because my sister had to come to terms with it. When there’s no chance of recovery, it’s the only humane thing.
We do it for our pets.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | August 22, 2020 7:18 AM |
R16 - Because the British Foreign Office actually extended an offer of asylum the Romanov family and Nicholas and his family were literally packing their bags to flee to England. The only reason they never left Russia was because George V pressured the FO to withdraw the official invitation.
Sin of commission, not omission.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | August 22, 2020 7:58 AM |
My sister was given morphine every half hour until she passed from lung cancer. She was essentially euthanized and passed quietly and quickly at a Catholic Hospital.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | August 22, 2020 8:53 AM |
Yes, that is a famous story.
Again. Where were all the MANY other Romanovian royal families at the time of the Bolshevik Revolution?
I can tell you exactly where they were: Cowering.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | August 22, 2020 8:56 AM |
R31 I get them all mixed up. But Queen's Mary Doll House was the best thing about the Winsor Castle Tour!
by Anonymous | reply 36 | August 22, 2020 9:20 AM |
^ Windsor Castle
by Anonymous | reply 37 | August 22, 2020 9:21 AM |
I warn you , Megstans.
The Queen has been here before.
And she will win.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | August 22, 2020 9:40 AM |
R16, There is a theory that the British government’s offer of asylum was scrapped because of the political upheaval in the UK at the time. Giving shelter to a man who was widely considered a tyrant would have been very unwise.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | August 22, 2020 9:59 AM |
Lol Dot Cotton @R15!
by Anonymous | reply 40 | August 22, 2020 10:04 AM |
R7
George V was basically given a "SpeedBall". Cocaine which is a stimulant, and an opioids such as heroin or morphine. Though likely HM's physician used cocaine hydrochloride and morphine sulfate (instead of heroin).
In any event the results of taking a stimulate is sudden rush of euphoria (that's why people do coke isn't it?), without the often accompanied side effects of anxiety, hypertension, palpitations thanks to the central nervous system depressant affects of morphine .
Since the stimulation/euphoric affects of cocaine wear off much faster than the CNS depressing affects of morphine or heroin what can (and sadly often does) happen is cardiac arrest. Cocaine masks the initial affects of a massive (overdose) of opioids but by the time the latter hits it is often too late, and a person dies of OD.
You can give someone a massive dose of heroin or morphine and they will eventually "go to sleep and not wake up again"; but coupled with cocaine there that feeling of no pain, joy, etc... that lasts until the opioids start kicking in earnestly by that time someone goes to "sleep" after the joy.
Other drugs such as benzodiazepines, or barbiturates are often used in place of one or above mentioned when Speedballs are done for recreational drug use. In any event the thing is dangerous and has lead to hundreds of overdose deaths including many famous persons.
Jean-Michel Basquiat, John Belushi, Ken Caminiti, Chris Farley, Pete Farndon, Zac Foley, Trevor Goddard, Mitch Hedberg, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Sebastian Horsley, Chris Kelly, Brent Mydland, River Phoenix, Eric Show, Judee Sill, Layne Staley and Joey Stefano all died from ODs that involved combination of "SpeedBall" drugs.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | August 22, 2020 11:02 AM |
This story isn't exactly news; anyone who follows BRF or royalty in general likely has known for quite sometime.
Story goes after George V breathed his last Queen Mary turned to her eldest son Prince of Wales (David) bowed her curtsy, kissed his hand (as the new sovereign), then left the death room for her own apartments.
"In a 1924 contribution to Lancet, Dr. F. G. Chandler extolled the value of “Cocaine in Euthanasia,” particularly for patients who were terminal with pulmonary tuberculosis. A dozen years later, British King George V (1865 to 1936, left) was terminally bronchitic, bedridden, and passing repeatedly in and out of consciousness. Shortly after 11 pm on January 20, 1936, the Physician-in-Ordinary to the King administered a pair of lethal doses intravenously, to hasten the struggling monarch’s demise. This regicide was only revealed a half century later in the diary of the euthanizer, Lord Dawson of Penn (1864 to 1945), who penned: “I therefore decided to determine the end and injected (myself) morphia gr. 3/4 and shortly afterwards cocaine gr. 1 into the [King’s] distended jugular vein….” (Copyright © the American Society of Anesthesiologists’ Wood Library-Museum of Anesthesiology.)"
by Anonymous | reply 42 | August 22, 2020 11:07 AM |
Since the late 1800's and certainly by the 1920's terminally ill cancer patients and others were prescribed a "Brompton Cocktail"
This early palliative care elixir was made from morphine or diacetylmorphine (heroin), cocaine, highly-pure ethyl alcohol (some recipes specify gin), and sometime later chlorpromazine was added to reduce nausea when it became available.
During Victorian and Edwardian periods morphine and heroin were far more easily available than they would be later. You could simply pop round to chemist and pick up things like Laudanum (a tincture of opium containing approximately 10% powdered opium by weight (the equivalent of 1% morphine). Stuff was promoted and used for everything from quieting fussy infants to "women's complaints".
Problem with all this freely dispensing of opiates is that people became addicted (see the mother in Long Day's Journey Into Night). That lead eventually to a clamping down that has become increasingly stronger over decades. Today someone has to be pretty much near death and so terminally ill there isn't no chance an "addiction" would develop before they can get powerful pain killers.
In United States and maybe some other countries the pendulum has swung totally opposite direction. As such palliative care in USA is not what it should or could be, this means many terminally ill patients die in pain needlessly.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | August 22, 2020 11:24 AM |
hospice with the "special dose" in the 'fridge. nothing new.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | August 22, 2020 11:42 AM |
I imagine the fact that the old King was a raging asshole helped rid those involved in his demise of much of their guilt.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | August 22, 2020 11:50 AM |
It’s slightly unfair to blame George V for the death of the Romanovs, as he was watching crowns wobbling all over Europe at that time. Even if he had offered asylum, there was very little prospect that the tsar and his family could have escaped the Revolutionaries and made it to safety.
There was great personal fondness for the Romanovs in the British Royals (hardly surprising, since they were closely related), but the British Royals, having lost or ceded power over generations, had had a horror of the brutal and absolutist nature of the Russian tsars for a couple of centuries. They knew that absolute power could rebound on royalty, and that the vengeance of a people could be terrible. If things go wrong, the people have no politicians to blame. Power lies with an absolutist cCrown.
Indeed, Queen Victoria, grandmother to the young princesses of Darmstadt-Hesse had made these girls promise to seek marriages within any royal family EXCEPT the Russian one. The eldest,Princess Victoria, kept her promise and married Louis of Battenberg, survived the two world wars and lived into her eighties as the Marchioness of Milford Haven. Two of her younger sisters were less wise (or lucky): Alix, of course, became tsarina and died with her family in the cellar in Yekaterinburg, and Elisabeth married a Russian Grand Duke who led a pogrom in Moscow, in which 20000 jews were driven from their homes and exiled. She prophesised that God would punish them severely for this. Her husband was assassinated in 1905, and she was thrown down a mineshaft to starve to death in the Revolution.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | August 22, 2020 1:15 PM |
My father died of cancer in 1985. He was only given IV morphine. He died 2 weeks after the diagnosis
by Anonymous | reply 47 | August 22, 2020 1:23 PM |
This has been common knowledge for ages.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | August 22, 2020 1:27 PM |
Just fuck off R15. Do whatever you want with your own banal life but just fuck off out of the rest of lives and leave us alone.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | August 22, 2020 1:49 PM |
The only royal who offered immediate asylum to the Romanov's was the gay King of Spain Alphonso XIII.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | August 22, 2020 2:09 PM |
so gay he had like 20 kids! lol
by Anonymous | reply 51 | August 22, 2020 2:20 PM |
We must remain on earth until the Lord calls us home. Only can decide when its our time.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | August 22, 2020 4:17 PM |
R52 Why on earth do you think that? Better to die by your own hand than be murdered by some arsehole.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | August 22, 2020 5:50 PM |
I remember an elderlounger in 2016 or so who posted that he wanted to go overdosing on pills and wine at the beach after watching one last sunset, instead of having to live years of pain and loneliness. This scenario always sounded like a good way to go to me.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | August 22, 2020 9:52 PM |