Are Fur Coats Utterly Declasse, DL?

Only black women wear them nowadays.

J Lo is serving it.

They used to be high class, but stopped being high class around the late 80's when the lower class caught on and rich people had adopted anti-animal cruelty as a rich person thing to care about. Now the only people who wear fur coats are whores and lower class bitches who think they're classy.

the word declasse is declasse, only pretentious try hards use that term OP.

Fuck you cunts! I loved my fur coats!

Even amongst men!

The way to answer whether or not a piece of clothing is classy anymore is to ask yourself if you've ever seen a rapper wearing said clothing. If the answer is yes, then no.

Michelle Obama doesn’t wear fur.

R8 Because Michelle Obama is classy.

The First Lady knows class, people.

Okay, this totally looks like a screenshot from "Hustlers."

This is the First Lady of the United States.

Can this be so? But winter is coming and my chinchilla is brand new!

R10 Don't know what fur Donald told her that coat was but it looks like Rabbit to me.

For American white women under the age of 60, yes. It is now recognized that fur comes from factory farmed animals who suffer enormously.

Slavic whores still love furs, as do people in Siberia, I imagine.

They were not real furs in the movie.

You can't wear real furs anymore.

Unless you're married to the mob -- or are otherwise trashy.

R11 So what is the deal with Melania's eyes...? DL should have some make-up/beauty experts... I always wondered. They are always just slits of black across her face. She looks sort of Asian, but not, of course. Is it congenital structure that results in tiny eyes? But her make up seems to emphasize it. She looks like she's squinting, constipated, or...?

What's the deal?

I am a woman and have a beautiful sheepskin coat I inherited and don’t feel bad about wearing. Also have a parka that is lined in sheared mink that I got in a secondhand store. I’d never wear an all-out fur like the ones pictured here. They’re old and worn for warmth, not glamour or display of wealth.

R17: She's had too much cosmetic surgery.

Faux fur is an environmental nightmare as well. It's petroleum, and it is also a concoction that cannot biodegrade in landfills. I think - wear vintage fur, until there is no more vintage fur. Then move on. We'll all be dead.

Only hateful trash wears real fur.

The only people who wear real fur are Russians and hookers.

And I dare you to be able to tell them apart.

I have slitty eyes and I am a beloved screen goddess, classy, and insouciante.

R19 Doesn't bad surgery usually leave unnaturally wide open eyes?

SJP appears to be wearing a dead Muppet, which is at least not even pretending to be real dead animal fur.

Ivanka is wearing real chinchilla, I believe. Of course.

When individuals of certain demographics adopt clothing attire standards that were formerly of the upper classes, it automatically makes that clothing style or fashion de classe. This also applies to cars made by Mercedes-Benz, BMW and Lexus. As evidenced in the recent video footage from the riot and looting in Chicago the first stores that these demographics go after is high-end retail. They have a skewed sense of conspicuous consumption versus necessities.

I've seen women wear fox, rabbit, mink, and sable, but SJP is the first I've ever seen wear Cookie Monster.

R10 The Queen has more class. Much, much more class. Much more fur, too...

Detroit's furriers lost their most loyal customer when Aretha passed.

Serious question: What do people do with old fur coats? My mom has fur coat sitting in her closet, she paid some ridiculous amount for it in the 1970s and then was too embarrassed to ever wear it in public. It's just hanging there... but I can't figure out what should be done with it once she dies. It seems like a ridiculous thing to "give away." Can you make a pillow out of it?

I've seen 'Teddy Bears' and other soft toys made from old fur coats.

Fur was everywhere in Dallas, when I visited my wealthy aunt.

R31 Ok, that's probably more embarrassing than owning a fur coat.

My mother died with three of them. I gave them all to three black women I knew at work who in turn gave them to their mothers. All of whom wrote to thank me.

One even sent me a picture of herself in the afternoon fox chubbie.

R30, yes you can have a pillow made or a small throw if the coat was long enough.

It's been many years since I've seen a white woman under the age of 75 in a fur coat. (Probable Russian Hos excepted)

Okay, but what about "exotic" leather goods. You don't hear as much regarding leather as with fur. I guess it's because you can harvest a lot more from ostrich, alligator, caiman, fish, snake, etc, than you can with fur bearing animals.

The boots made from caiman, pirarucu, and stingrays are beautiful. Armadillo boots are nice too, depending on the color.

Real fur coats and wraps were actually a practical choice before central heating came along. Now it's just a signifier of "Look at how much money I'm wasting!"

No fur coats are trashy just like jho.

You cunts can fuck right off.

If that fur coat is just hanging in the closet r30, it’s probably getting ruined. Central heating/dry heat dries out the skin and the weight of the coat is pulling apart the shoulder seams.

But nothing beats fur when it is -20°. It’s heavy but it will keep you warmer than anything else.

Give your old fur coats to someone who will enjoy them or who knows someone who will. Back in my day, punks and cool chicks, rocker girls and the like, enjoyed them, but I guess that's finished.

Also, you could simply put them in a "coat drive" - for needy people. They are warm!

I own a vintage clothing store in LA and for years I didn't sell furs (even though they'd been dead for 50 or more years I just don't like the thought of it). I tried a couple of really beautiful 1950s and 60s furs that came in an estate I'd purchased and they sold right away. I don't actively seek them for my shop but when they do come in they sell quickly.

I think a lot of people feel like vintage fur has much less bad karma attached.

Oh, big woo!

R31 Seeing Aretha come out in that huge fur coat at the Carol King Kennedy Awards ceremony, and letting it simply fall off her shoulders onto the floor, was a vintage American Pop Royalty moment.

I remember, years ago, being at a Christmas party. A friend and I got stuck talking with one of Atlanta's most pretentious queens (and that's saying something!). His name was Tom Collins (I'm not kidding) and he was regaling us with how fabulous he and his husband's decisions are.

"So, he said, 'Well, if you MUST know, I really want a mink for Christians, but I dare not ask for one.' And I told him, 'I think you just did!' And he said, 'Well, I deserve it!' and I said, 'We BOTH do!' And we do. We really do. There was no argument on that. So we BOTH got THE MOST FABULOUS minks! They are being custom fitted or we would be in them right now! You'd just die."

We were having so much trouble not laughing until we got out of earshot.

My mother had a fur stole. It's mine now and I don't know what the fuck to do w/it.

I once worked for an interior designer, he was at the very top of his profession. He did all the designing and I did the grunt work such as on moving day making sure things got there on time and were put things in the right place, etc.

And sometimes these jobs would take months and months and months and after working in a house for so long I pretty much knew where everything belonged in the house and I knew the owners possessions; from the Picassos on the wall to were their underwear was kept. This is about one of these situations.

After not being there for a couple of months I showed up to do an installation of new stuff that had come in and as it were I came through the service entrance (Again I did the grunt work and wasn’t the famous designer who came through the front door) so as soon as I walked in I noticed that there was a cat hair brush in the laundry room and I asked one of the maids if the couple had gotten a cat during my time away? And she looked at me and kind of rolled her eyes and said you haven’t been here in a while go to the master bedroom and see. I walked into the master bedroom which of course is “Architectural Digest” level spectacular but there was something new that i was not privy to, this couple had purchased a white mink floor rug that covered at least 20’ x 20‘ under the bed and around it! And the maid i spoke had the tedious job to take the cat brush and brush the white mink rug so that all the fur was brushed into the same direction - daily. When I spoke to the owner I told her I can’t believe you have a mink floor rug, and she just smiled and said you don’t know how it feels to wake up in the morning and put your bare foot on mink. It’s divine she told me.

Btw, They are a famous A-list Bel Air society power couple in their 60s. Their art collection is world renowned and not some trashy rap family. Also real fur pillows and real fur throw blankets are almost de rigueur in many Beverly Hills/Bel Air/Holmby Hills mansions. So the rich still want real fur but just not the way our grandmothers used it for.

Interesting. So the 1% are still buying fur, they just keep it at home now.

Techies -who are the richest folks around - def do not buy mink carpets. They don't give money to museums and I don't think they that they buy much art.

I always find it interesting that people lose their minds over fur but don't say a peep over leather. Guess it's okay to raise cattle, etc., but not mink or chinchilla, etc.

R52 Not to go "there," but leather *is* a byproduct of the cattle industry. So, for people who aren't vegetarians... that's how it's rationalized. It's not like anyone eats minks after they've been skinned (well, maybe they do, I don't know). People do lose their minds over exotic leathers and skins. Honestly, synthetic shoes? No thanks!!

So all we have to do, R53, is find a market for mink and chinchilla meat? You know good and well that they are already probably sold in far East food markets.

R54 You said it, not me!!!

Mink and Chinchilla meat already go into pet food, as does most meat that isn't desirable or fit for human consumption.

A chinchila recipe for DL gourmands.

And I honestly don't care what people eat, R54. People are way too judgmental about that. If you're hungry enough, you're going to eat whatever is available. We Americans tend to look down our noses just because we are rich enough to be able to spend money to keep animals as companions while many in the rest of the world would be happy to have them to eat. It's Western privilege on high display without a touch of self-reflection.

My guilty secret is that I like Horse-meat, it isn't cheap in restaurants in Europe now though.

Hideous.

If I had the money to have a mink area rug made for me I'd put it in real estate instead, but that's just me.

I've been kicking my ass since 2008 when I passed on a chinchilla blanket at Casa Lopez in Buenos Aires. Queen size: $400. Their money was shit then and ours was great. Even after buying an extra suitcase to carry it home, paying the excess baggage charges and paying duty when I got back to the States it would have been a steal. I usually say "yes" to crazy impulse buys and don't regret it. I still regret passing on this one.

I bought a pair of shoes instead.

All you bitches crying about people wearing fur...PFFT!

Is leather still ok?

You can buy Ed Gein 'Human' leather jackets now. I always threatened my impossibly tanned neighbour that's what I'd do to him (before he died of skin cancer).

That's a cute story, R34.

And "Afternoon Fox Chubbie" is my new handle on Grindr.