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Deliverance

Is it really only a movie about buttfucking?

And why did the Hillbillies choose the gross fat guy to fuck?

The Jon Voight character was much hotter and prettier.

Interesting that the only character with morals got drowned and washed down the river, ending up with his arm twisted and broken behind his neck.

My favorite part is at the end, when Ned Beatty and Jon Voight sit down to dinner with the old country folks. Then the lady talks about her 10 1/2 inch cucumber.

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by Anonymousreply 78August 16, 2020 9:41 AM

Daddy Burt!

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by Anonymousreply 1August 14, 2020 3:29 AM

Yes, it's just a 2 hour buttfucking scene.

by Anonymousreply 2August 14, 2020 3:29 AM

Bravo, OP! Please review another movie! Can you do the superhero movies? I've never seen and will never see any of them but I am vaguely curious about the plots.

by Anonymousreply 3August 14, 2020 3:30 AM

How did they do this?

Is he double-jointed?

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by Anonymousreply 4August 14, 2020 3:30 AM

"The Making Of 'Deliverance' Was Even More Horrifying Than The Film's Backwoods Locals"

The making of Deliverance was a survival story to rival the one on screen. The 1972 movie, based on James Dickey's novel of the same name, is about four friends - Lewis (Burt Reynolds), Ed (Jon Voight), Bobby (Ned Beatty), and Drew (Ronny Cox) - who take a canoe trip down the Cahulawassee River. Rapids are the least dangerous thing they have to face. After an unpleasant encounter with aggressive hillbillies, the men find themselves running for their lives.

Director John Boorman insisted on making his film feel as authentic and real as possible, and his efforts made Deliverance one of the scariest movies ever. The following anecdotes will take you behind the scenes of Deliverance to show you how he accomplished that mission. During production, all the main actors nearly perished, and there was a fair amount of drama off-camera, as well. Deliverance is to wilderness survival movies as Goodfellas is to mob movies - a prime example of a film that gets every last detail exactly right. More than 45 years later, it still retains its raw, unforgettable power.

[quote] The Banjo Kid Couldn't Really Play The Banjo

Billy Redden wasn't an actor. He was an average kid who was picked to play Lonnie (also known as "Banjo Boy") during a casting call at a local elementary school. Because Redden couldn't play the banjo, John Boorman had to find a way to make it look like he could on screen.

To achieve the effect, a child who played the banjo sat hidden behind Redden, his hand stuck through the actor's sleeve to reach the fretboard. He did the fingering while Redden pretended to strum.

[quote] The Movie Was Filmed In Order In Case One Of The Actors Perished

John Boorman wanted his actors to do their own canoeing. He believed the lack of stuntmen would make for a visceral viewing experience. He got around the fact that the stars were novices by shooting in sequence.

Ronny Cox recalled:

[quote] The easy rapids were at the beginning of the film, and the rapids get harder and harder as we go through the film. So by the time we got to the really hard rapids, we had had canoe practice and had been on the water for five or six weeks of six or seven, eight hours a day. So by that time, we were all really good canoers.

Burt Reynolds, meanwhile, claimed Boorman told him there was a second motive for shooting in sequence: "If one of you drowns, I can write that into the script."

[quote] Burt Reynolds Actually Went Over The Waterfall In The Canoe

Burt Reynolds was known as a tough guy, and he reveled in the reputation. So for a scene in which Lewis goes over a waterfall in a canoe, he rebuffed John Boorman's plan to use a dummy. Reynolds said he'd do it himself. That was a big mistake.

The actor told The Hollywood Reporter:

[quote] I went over the falls and the first thing that happened, I hit a rock and cracked my tailbone, and to this day it hurts. Then I went down to the water below, and it was a whirlpool. I couldn’t get out and a guy there said, "If you get caught, just go to the bottom. You can get out, but you can't swim against it." So I went down to the bottom. What he didn’t tell me was it was going to shoot me up like a [geyser]. So I went out.

Adding embarrassment to injury, the force of shooting up out of the water caused Reynolds' costume to be completely torn off. He emerged from the water bare.

[quote] Reynolds Brought In The Actor Who Delivered The Infamous 'Purdy Mouth' Line

Because it took place in real backwater locations, Deliverance needed people with unusual looks to play the villainous hillbillies who pursue the heroes. Of them, the most well-remembered is the "Toothless Man" who utters the immortal line, "He got a real purdy mouth, ain't he?" Burt Reynolds was personally responsible for finding the actor.

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by Anonymousreply 5August 14, 2020 3:39 AM

Knowing they needed someone to fulfill the small but pivotal role, Reynolds remembered Herbert Coward, a guy he once worked with at Ghost Town in the Sky theme park in North Carolina. Coward played a gunfighter there. Since parts of Deliverance were being filmed at the park, Reynolds recommended his old pal for the job, then helped him prepare his lines before filming.

[quote] Jon Voight Almost Plummeted Off A Cliff

Jon Voight wanted to make sure the perils faced in Deliverance were palpable for the audience. This quest for authenticity nearly caused him to plummet off a cliff. The actor told The Guardian he wanted a rock-climbing scene filmed in close-up, which would prevent the use of a stuntman.

"I was about 10 feet up on the face, which was slippery and almost perpendicular," he said. "I told the two grips below me: 'If I start to fall off, I’m going to push off the rocks. And you’ll catch me.' I started to slip, called out and one of them caught me."

The danger was worsened by the fact that a sharp rock was mere inches from the actor's head when he was caught.

[quote] Ronny Cox Dislocated His Shoulder On Purpose

One of the most difficult-to-watch scenes involves the discovery of Drew's body. His arm is twisted up around his head, which can make even the most steadfast viewer queasy. That effect was not achieved through make-up or prosthetics. It's Ronny Cox's real arm.

The actor told The Wrap he contracted a mild case of polio as a child. This left him with an ability to "do this thing where my shoulder comes out of place and just completely dislocates." During production, he mentioned this fact to Boorman, who thought it would be great for Drew's demise. Cox agreed, intentionally dislodging his shoulder for the sequence.

[quote] The Most Famous Line Of Dialogue Was Conceived By A Crew Member

When fans think of Deliverance, the words "squeal like a pig" probably come to mind. One of Bobby's tormentors mutters the line as he defiles the canoer. There have been various rumors about the source of that line. In the DVD audio commentary, John Boorman sets the record straight, attributing it to a crew member.

The director said the studio wanted him to shoot two versions of the scene, one with dialogue suitable for an eventual network television airing. Boorman didn't want two versions, though, so he tried to come up with something powerful but also profanity-free. When someone on set said "squeal like a pig," Boorman knew he had a winner.

[quote] Author James Dickey Cracked Four Of John Boorman's Teeth

Deliverance author James Dickey didn't really care for John Boorman as a director. Then again, the notoriously picky writer might not have been happy with anyone other than himself directing the film. At one point, his rage got the best of him and the writer resorted to physical aggression toward Boorman.

Dickey frequently clashed with the director over the movie's tone and staging. Tensions came to a head between them one night, and an inebriated Dickey struck Boorman in the face. Dickey's blow cracked four of Boorman's teeth.

Despite the tussle, Dickey still did his cameo as a sheriff.

[quote] The Actor Who Played 'Mountain Man' Attempted To Frighten Ned Beatty For Real

Actor Bill McKinney plays "Mountain Man," the hillbilly who violates Ned Beatty's character, Bobby. The scene is so jarring because of the sense of menace McKinney brings. It doesn't feel like a performance. There's a good reason for that: The actor took a Method approach to his role, attempting to frighten Ned Beatty off-camera.

In a group interview included on the 40th Anniversary Blu-ray, Burt Reynolds explained what happened:

[quote] I just remember McKinney would sit three tables away from us during lunch, just staring at Ned. Later I asked Bill why he was doing that. He said he was taught by Bruce Dern. And Bruce Dern said your main thrust, pardon the pun, should be to scare the hell out of Ned Beatty. And he did.

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[quote] Ned Beatty Almost Succumbed To The Rapids

Putting actors in a real river was a perilous feat. Ned Beatty nearly perished in the filmmakers' quest for authenticity. In the DVD audio commentary, John Boorman revealed the actor got caught in a current and couldn't find his way out for more than a minute. A diver was sent in to locate him before he finally emerged.

Years later, Beatty recalled the traumatic incident. He told the LA Times, "I thought, 'This is where I meet my end,' and my wife was pregnant, and I thought about how mad she would be that I [perished] in a river in Georgia."

[quote] The Actors And Director Removed Author James Dickey From The Set

By all accounts, author James Dickey was an imposing figure, both physically and in terms of his personality. His antics didn't sit well with John Boorman or the four main actors, who banded together to throw him off the set.

Dickey refused to call the actors by their real names, instead addressing them as their characters. He demanded that Ronny Cox perform a scene for some inebriated pals. Dickey was often intoxicated, as well, bellowing about how Deliverance was his film, not Boorman's.

These things made everyone resentful. The group consequently held an intervention with the writer, in which they asked him to leave for the good of the film.

Although he expressed his displeasure, Dickey did indeed walk.

[quote] Boorman Originally Cast Jack Nicholson And Marlon Brando As The Leads

Warner Bros. told Boorman they would only agree to make the film if the director could cast two stars. Diligently, Boorman went out and secured Jack Nicholson and Marlon Brando for the lead roles. Nicholson and Brando were too expensive for the studio, however, and they told Boorman he could have a budget of $2 million, but that he would have to cast unknown actors instead.

Boorman found each of the leading roles himself and recalled securing Burt Reynolds as a challenge. He told The Guardian, "[Reynolds] couldn’t make up his mind. In our last phone call, I told him: 'I’m going to count to 10. And he finally said yes.'"

by Anonymousreply 7August 14, 2020 3:45 AM

Why does the hillbilly fuck him? Was it actual lust or lust or just wanting to humiliate the guy? He could have just as easy used an object.

by Anonymousreply 8August 14, 2020 3:47 AM

[quote]The Movie Was Filmed In Order In Case One Of The Actors Perished.

If only John Voight had perished.

by Anonymousreply 9August 14, 2020 5:39 AM

I WAS SODOMIZED!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 10August 14, 2020 6:07 AM

It would have been hotter if Burt Reynolds had been sodomized.

Oh, wait...

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by Anonymousreply 11August 14, 2020 6:09 AM

I had never sat down and thought about who from the Deliverance cast I would prefer to rape.

I don't fantasise about having sex with people against their will.

Each to his own.

by Anonymousreply 12August 14, 2020 6:12 AM

It’s a morally ambiguous movie.

If you read the book, you’d get a better idea that the guy they ended up hunting down was NOT the guy that raped them.

Nice cinematography though.

by Anonymousreply 13August 14, 2020 6:14 AM

Straight men.

by Anonymousreply 14August 14, 2020 6:31 AM

I think they picked Ned Beatty because they sensed he had the tightest hole.

by Anonymousreply 15August 14, 2020 6:38 AM

[quote] I don't fantasise about having sex with people against their will. Each to his own.

R12, It's odd how many people conflate rape with sex (i.e. Christians who cite Genesis 19 as having some sort of relevance to homosexuality). It's about power, and seeking to humiliate or subjugate, which is why, statistically speaking, it's most often carried out by straight men. It's generally not an expression of sexual preference.

by Anonymousreply 16August 14, 2020 6:45 AM

Did the hillbilly cum inside?

by Anonymousreply 17August 14, 2020 6:46 AM

So it's a sexual thriller?

by Anonymousreply 18August 14, 2020 6:49 AM

[quote] So it's a sexual thriller?

No, it's rom-com, Rose.

by Anonymousreply 19August 14, 2020 6:52 AM

For years, I thought Ryan Reynolds was the son of Burt Reynolds. Oops.

by Anonymousreply 20August 14, 2020 7:02 AM

Rape - really bad when it happens to men, right?

Good thing we never have to worry about it since it happens so rarely to us.

by Anonymousreply 21August 14, 2020 7:05 AM

It still baffles me that John Boorman went from this masterpiece to Exorcist II in five years.

by Anonymousreply 22August 14, 2020 7:13 AM

I hope they paid Beatty extra.

by Anonymousreply 23August 14, 2020 7:15 AM

Deliverance is such a Gen X/70s movie. It still forms my image of southern hillbillies.

by Anonymousreply 24August 14, 2020 7:21 AM

[quote] So it's a sexual thriller?

Totally, R18!

I give it two cocks up!

by Anonymousreply 25August 14, 2020 7:26 AM

Two cocks up? I wasn't aware it was a double penetration scene.

by Anonymousreply 26August 14, 2020 7:40 AM

"Squeal like a pig!"

"Drop them panties!"

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by Anonymousreply 27August 14, 2020 7:45 AM

Of course rape has to do with sex. You think a straight guy is going to get hard when he says sees a fat guy?

by Anonymousreply 28August 14, 2020 7:49 AM

As someone you prefers fat bums for fucking, I'm not surprised Ned got the surprise anal.

by Anonymousreply 29August 14, 2020 7:50 AM

[quote]Deliverance is such a Gen X ... movie.

No, it's not. Half of us weren't even born yet. The other half were in elementary school.

by Anonymousreply 30August 14, 2020 7:57 AM

The toothless guy was about to force Jon Voight to blow him before he was killed by Burt.

by Anonymousreply 31August 14, 2020 7:58 AM

Cinematically, Ned Beatty gets off easy in that scene. The rape of women on film is usually much more graphic.

by Anonymousreply 32August 14, 2020 8:08 AM

2020 remake-

Chris Pine as Ed

Rory Kinnear as Bobby

Ryan Reynolds as Drew

Aaron Taylor Johnson as Louis

by Anonymousreply 33August 14, 2020 8:08 AM

I agree r32. The only thing shown is the hillbilly undoing his pants followed by his contorting face. No penetration, no sound effects. While all this is happening, Jon Voight is posing on that tree as if he's doing a photo shoot.

by Anonymousreply 34August 14, 2020 8:26 AM

This movie reminds me of another where two girls are kidnapped and raped by this group of losers in the woods. There is a shocking scene of female on female rape. This movie was from the same time, I think.

by Anonymousreply 35August 14, 2020 8:30 AM

Last House on the Left r35?

by Anonymousreply 36August 14, 2020 8:47 AM

R33 good casting I'd fuck Rory kinnear as Bobby.

by Anonymousreply 37August 14, 2020 9:38 AM

[quote] The toothless guy was about to force Jon Voight to blow him before he was killed by Burt.

I don't even want to imagine the STENCH.

by Anonymousreply 38August 14, 2020 2:07 PM

What's all this fuss about frettin' and fingerin' ?

by Anonymousreply 39August 14, 2020 2:14 PM

Both of those Hillbillies were disgusting.

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by Anonymousreply 40August 14, 2020 2:19 PM

They chose to have the fat guy get raped because they thought it would make more of an impact with the audience. Despite what people say, rape actually is about sex, at least in some component. So to have the rape victim be an overweight, unassuming, average middle aged man was shocking. It was so that they could make the character more relatable to the audience and thus make the rape more horrific and disturbing.

In reality Burt Reynolds' character would have been the one getting raped. They probably would have just killed the fat one.

by Anonymousreply 41August 14, 2020 2:23 PM

Personally I'm kind of annoyed that they even went with the angle of making the rape victim a fat man just for the "it could happen to anyone" angle. Female rape on screen is always sexualized, female rape victims are always played by hot actresses, it's never old women or fat women getting raped on screen, it's always 20-somethings that look like models. I feel like 90% of the male rape victims on screen are ugly fat men in their 40's. It's bullshit that the staple of female rape movies is I Spit On Your Grave while the staple of male rape movies is Deliverance. That says something.

by Anonymousreply 42August 14, 2020 2:30 PM

[quote]Of course rape has to do with sex. You think a straight guy is going to get hard when he says sees a fat guy?

R28, people get hard for all sorts of reasons, some of them quite alien to most of us. That's even more true of rapists, who seem to be turned on by the relative helplessness of the victim.

[quote]Rapists don't rape because they can't "get" sex elsewhere. Rapists don't rape because they're uncontrollably turned on by the sight of some cleavage, or a midriff, or red lipstick, or an ankle. They rape because they're misogynist sadists, and they flourish in places where misogyny is justified as tradition and maleness comes with a presumption of violence.

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by Anonymousreply 43August 14, 2020 2:32 PM

Why is there an argument about rape being about EITHER sex or power/control? Clearly it's about both. You girls do know that people can have multiple reasons for doing something, right?

by Anonymousreply 44August 14, 2020 2:33 PM

[quote] Female rape on screen is always sexualized, female rape victims are always played by hot actresses, it's never old women or fat women getting raped on screen, it's always 20-somethings that look like models

Except for Law & Order: SVU.

Pretty much every gender, race, ethnicity, age, income level, cognitive ability, profession, and level of attractiveness has been raped on that damned show.

by Anonymousreply 45August 14, 2020 2:35 PM

R45 Law and Order may not have sexualized the rapes, but they made misogynistic jokes about the rapes early on in the show. They quickly stopped that once the mid-2000's rolled around.

by Anonymousreply 46August 14, 2020 2:42 PM

Deliverance was a great film but it's so frightening, it will stay with you forever.

Another good film in the same vein is Southern Comfort with Powers Boothe. It was directed by Walter Hill. It has the same premise of friends getting into trouble deep in Cajun Bayou country.

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by Anonymousreply 47August 14, 2020 2:43 PM

R47 If there ain't rape, we don't want it!

by Anonymousreply 48August 14, 2020 2:44 PM

R40 That photo lots like a picture of a Trump supporter.

by Anonymousreply 49August 14, 2020 2:45 PM

[quote]Clearly it's about both.

No, R44, that's not at all clear. Your claim requires support.

I just had a glance at a right-wing Quillette article, "To Rape is to Want Sex, Not Power", which stupidly claimed that the reason why there's more victims high-school aged is because they're more attractive (oddly personal reasoning, that), rather than the fact that they're more vulnerable, inexperienced, and subordinate to adults.

by Anonymousreply 50August 14, 2020 2:47 PM

Damn! I just found out Powers Boothe died in 2014. I think Powers Boothe was a fantastic actor. If you haven't seen him as Rev. Jim Jones, it is well worth watching the TV movie, Guyana Tragedy: The Story of Jim Jones.

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by Anonymousreply 51August 14, 2020 2:47 PM

DL's fave movie!

by Anonymousreply 52August 14, 2020 2:48 PM

[quote]Deliverance - Is it really only a movie about buttfucking?

This is the Datalounge. All movies are only about buttfucking.

by Anonymousreply 53August 14, 2020 2:49 PM

R52 Right behind Carrie, Mommie Dearest & Valley of the Dolls....

by Anonymousreply 54August 14, 2020 2:50 PM

Hey r54! What about me?

by Anonymousreply 55August 14, 2020 2:53 PM

"Because it took place in real backwater locations, Deliverance needed people with unusual looks to play the villainous hillbillies who pursue the heroes. Of them, the most well-remembered is the "Toothless Man" who utters the immortal line, "He got a real purdy mouth, ain't he?" Burt Reynolds was personally responsible for finding the actor."

Uh-huh. 56 replies in and none of you have asked how he found him?

by Anonymousreply 56August 14, 2020 3:22 PM

[quote]Uh-huh. 56 replies in and none of you have asked how he found him?

R56, that was answered in the first paragraph of R6.

by Anonymousreply 57August 14, 2020 3:27 PM

R56 only got up to R4. He had to quit to go help the family on the farm.

Just now got back.

by Anonymousreply 58August 14, 2020 3:29 PM

[quote] Despite what people say, rape actually is about sex,

Rape is always, always, ALWAYS about power and brutality.

Sex can be the channel for that, but never mistake rape for sexual passion.

by Anonymousreply 59August 14, 2020 3:32 PM

Weren't they about to rape the Voight character when the others arrived ?

by Anonymousreply 60August 14, 2020 3:50 PM

Oui, oui, oui, r60.

by Anonymousreply 61August 14, 2020 4:29 PM

Jon Voight is a Deplorable, but damn if he wasn't hot back in the day.

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by Anonymousreply 62August 14, 2020 4:32 PM

Are we sure that these two weren't a "thing?"

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by Anonymousreply 63August 14, 2020 4:33 PM

Burt was at his hottest.

by Anonymousreply 64August 14, 2020 4:37 PM

I can't wait for Ryan Murphy's 'Hillbillies,' a new 8-part Netflix miniseries, all about how the two rapist hillbillies became rapist hillbillies. Starring Darren Criss, Finn Wittrock, and Evan Peters as horny hillbillies, and David Corenswet as the hillbilly that ends up raping Ned Beatty in the film. Also starring Patti Lupone and Sharon Stone.

by Anonymousreply 65August 14, 2020 4:56 PM

Nah. Voight always looked like a muskrat faced fool.

by Anonymousreply 66August 14, 2020 5:01 PM

R65 Ahem! You forgot me!

by Anonymousreply 67August 14, 2020 5:01 PM

Mama Hillbilly can be a siamese twin.

by Anonymousreply 68August 14, 2020 5:03 PM

Dylan McDermott as Hot Bisexual Hillbilly Daddy

by Anonymousreply 69August 14, 2020 5:04 PM

I'd watch that series.

by Anonymousreply 70August 14, 2020 5:05 PM

[quote] Is it really only a movie about buttfucking?

Yes,. but then so are so many other famous movies, like "Driving Miss Daisy."

by Anonymousreply 71August 14, 2020 5:05 PM

R70 It sounds way more entertaining than Ratched.

by Anonymousreply 72August 14, 2020 5:06 PM

The Jolie-Pitt kids look so much like Jon. Uncanny...

by Anonymousreply 73August 14, 2020 5:08 PM

[quote] Dylan McDermott as Hot Bisexual Hillbilly Daddy

That needs to be its own series. Or maybe just a porno.

by Anonymousreply 74August 14, 2020 5:12 PM

[quote] Another good film in the same vein is Southern Comfort with Powers Boothe. It was directed by Walter Hill. It has the same premise of friends getting into trouble deep in Cajun Bayou country.

Yes, can confirm this. Walter Hill is so underrated, one of the best directors to emerge from the 70s. I have always wanted to watch The Driver but I can't find it anywhere.

by Anonymousreply 75August 14, 2020 7:46 PM

Yes, r75. I loved [italic]Streets of Fire[/italic], good world-building, good cast, great music. I'd love to see a director's cut of [italic]Hard Times[/italic] It has some great scenes, but the last third of the movie was butchered and doesn't make a lot of sense. [italic]Johnny Handsome[/italic] and [italic]Trespass[/italic] both had enough interesting bits to be worth watching. And Ellen Barkin was so [italic]nasty[/italic] in [italic]Johnny Handsome[/italic].

by Anonymousreply 76August 14, 2020 9:08 PM

It was never clear what happened to Drew. It appeared he was having a heart attack but Louis insisted he had been shot.

by Anonymousreply 77August 16, 2020 9:35 AM

I always thought the attack was planned because Bobby and Louis were making fun of those hillbillies at the gas station. Later they see the inbred boy watching them from a bridge.

by Anonymousreply 78August 16, 2020 9:41 AM
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