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Kate Winslet and Saoirse Ronan To Play Lesbian Lovers

Ammonite - this raw love story between a solitary paleontologist and a wealthy, grieving wife in 19th-century Dorset.

Why would they cast these two in this film?

by Anonymousreply 94April 4, 2021 1:46 PM

Why not? You think Winslet is too old?

by Anonymousreply 1August 3, 2020 9:37 PM

I want to see this, the story of the solitary female amateur paleontologist discovering the "Jurassic Coast" is true.

by Anonymousreply 2August 3, 2020 9:38 PM

Oh, they are making the Sarah Paulson and Holland Taylor love story?

by Anonymousreply 3August 3, 2020 10:00 PM

Aren't we in the age of "straight women can't play lesbian women"?

by Anonymousreply 4August 3, 2020 10:09 PM

BORING!!!!!!

Why can't they make a lesbian story I'd actually want to watch?

Come on, enough with the Ladies On Fire and Ann Lister costume dramas, don't you women want people to stay awake long enough to enjoy these projects?

by Anonymousreply 5August 3, 2020 10:12 PM

So this has been sitting on a shelf for awhile now?

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by Anonymousreply 6August 3, 2020 10:17 PM

I think it looks good

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by Anonymousreply 7August 25, 2020 5:05 PM

Is Kate playing her mother?

by Anonymousreply 8August 25, 2020 5:07 PM

I honestly think they look like they could be related.

by Anonymousreply 9August 25, 2020 5:11 PM

Loved how Winslet desperately campaigned for an Oscar and on e she got it she's been nominated once in 12 years. In Supporting.

by Anonymousreply 10August 25, 2020 5:12 PM

Interesting that Call Me By Your Name, a story about a 17-18 year old and a 22 year old having a relationship, is branded as pedophilia propaganda and used as an excuse to say gay culture glorifies pedophilia and that all gay men are pedos, but a story about a lesbian relationship between a young girl and a woman old enough to be her mother gets no criticism whatsoever. Oliver and Elio only had a four year age difference and yet people STILL call it immoral pedophilia. These people have a 20+ age difference and yet I've yet to see anybody say a word.

Gay men have it way harder than lesbians and fuck anybody who says differently.

by Anonymousreply 11August 25, 2020 5:23 PM

It looks like a well done film. Subject can also be seen as Oscar bait and maybe they could have casted someone like Paulson instead of straight actresses. In the end it's down to ticket sales.

by Anonymousreply 12August 25, 2020 5:24 PM

r11, wasn't Armie Hammer's character supposed to be older than 22? And, for every person calling it pedophile propaganda, there was someone else lionizing the movie. It was nominated for many Oscars and won best screenplay.

And how old is Saoirse's character supposed to be? She doesn't look like a little girl at all.

by Anonymousreply 13August 25, 2020 5:26 PM

Older lesbians pray on younger lesbians all the time and nobody says a word, but if a gay man even looks at a man who is one year younger or older than him, everyone involved is instantly labeled a nonce. Proof of who is more oppressed.

by Anonymousreply 14August 25, 2020 5:27 PM

r14, there are more abuse cases involving older men and younger boys than ones involving older women and younger women. Why do you think the Boy Scouts covered up thousands of abuse cases while the Girl Scouts didn't?

I don't get gay men who think trashing lesbians is the way to build up gay men.

by Anonymousreply 15August 25, 2020 5:29 PM

If you read the Guardian article linked above, there was only a 10 year difference in their ages -- hardly "old enough to be her mother."

They did start corresponding when the younger of the two was 14, but there is no proof whatsoever that there was a sexual relationship.

R14, lots of women "pray" for younger women. Perhaps you should look up the word "prey."

by Anonymousreply 16August 25, 2020 5:40 PM

Didn't Winslet play a lezzie in Beautiful Creatures?

by Anonymousreply 17August 25, 2020 5:48 PM

Exactly, R15.

Men gay or straight are many more times likely to sexually attack, hurt and abuse another person. Records show it. Whether the reason is systemic, or socioeconomic, or biological, is beside the point. It happens that way and has for all of recorded time, and that’s that. Women don’t nearly as often rape, or beat, or kidnap, or torture and kill other people without serious provocation. Of course there is less fear surrounding an imbalance of power in lesbian or female-female relationships.

Not to mention the fact that women young and old all share the long experience of being treated as the submissive gender designed as a sexual punching-bag, meaning that in all female-female relationships (sexual/lesbian or not) is an implicit acknowledgment a rare chance to enjoy a balance of power better equalised.

This is idealistic and a simplification, but generally holds true in most cases besides the anomalous Eileen Wournos-type deals.

by Anonymousreply 18August 25, 2020 6:27 PM

Awards bait.

BO-RING!

by Anonymousreply 19August 25, 2020 6:31 PM

Please please don't let either of them do any nudity! Winslet would get her baps and bush out even in a kids movie, and no one needs to see Ronan's little fried eggs and orange minge!

by Anonymousreply 20August 25, 2020 6:45 PM

The sight of Winslet urinating was too much.

She is veering into scary Emma Thompson territory.

by Anonymousreply 21August 25, 2020 7:25 PM

Kate Winslet’s pubes in Jude were thick and coppery.

by Anonymousreply 22August 25, 2020 7:27 PM

I loved God’s Own Country

by Anonymousreply 23August 25, 2020 7:29 PM

Why do we trash lesbians?

by Anonymousreply 24August 25, 2020 7:34 PM

We love lesbians. I can't stand Emma Thompson

by Anonymousreply 25August 25, 2020 7:37 PM

And it's white lesbians. Like the media isn't already saturated with them.

I want two black lesbians tonguing each other down and eating each other out on camera.

by Anonymousreply 26August 25, 2020 8:14 PM

Grace Jones and Lupita Nyong’o?

by Anonymousreply 27August 25, 2020 8:35 PM

This movie has been sitting on the shelf for a year or two, it stars an actress who received a lead actress oscar nomination just last year, yet has no fanfare & is being dumped at the end of the summer. It's a turkey.

Side note: Ronan is apparently still in Jack Lowden's Instagram feed; even though he's rather dull as an actor, I thought DL was certain she was a lesbian?

by Anonymousreply 28August 25, 2020 8:41 PM

Lesbian movies have reached its pinnacle at Blue Is the Warmest Color. I don't want to see more cunt licking thereafter.

And Saoirse seems to be very good at sucking air out of every movie she's in - too dead serious to be enjoyable in every one of them.

by Anonymousreply 29August 25, 2020 8:47 PM

R28 It comes out in November, not at the end of summer.

by Anonymousreply 30August 25, 2020 9:28 PM

I’m a lesbian who wants more lesbian mainstream movies, but I agree with R5.

I mean, seriously? Another dusty period drama? Another reheated script no-one picked up for a decade? More Kate Winslet?

We need better media representation.

by Anonymousreply 31August 25, 2020 9:31 PM

Killing Eve?

by Anonymousreply 32August 25, 2020 10:05 PM

R25 Some of my favourite movies of the 90s starred Emma Thompson but she has evolved into a whining, hypocritical, loud shrew that it has killed the pleasure I previously enjoyed.

by Anonymousreply 33August 26, 2020 4:18 AM

So it's the new Carol??

by Anonymousreply 34August 26, 2020 4:58 AM

[quote]the story of the solitary female amateur paleontologist discovering the "Jurassic Coast" is true.

It is, but she wasn't a lesbian to anyone's knowledge. Francis Lee has said he's aware of this but if straight people can films about gay historical figures portraying them as straight, he doesn't see any reason why he can't do the same in reverse and turn straight historical figures gay. Ha.

by Anonymousreply 35August 26, 2020 5:07 AM

Actually I have seen the trailer and I think Kate Winslet has the right level of highly emotional ham to play this.

by Anonymousreply 36August 26, 2020 6:31 PM

Will they have accents like Billy Burden in [italic]Grace and Favour[/italic]?

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by Anonymousreply 37August 26, 2020 6:36 PM

One can only hope, R37.

by Anonymousreply 38August 26, 2020 10:02 PM

Saw this and it's passable, but only just. Winslet's character doesn't crack a smile throughout the movie, and it also seems like she put on a lot of weight, which I'm sure is historically accurate for the role, but removes any potential sexiness.

As for the real Mary Anning's sexuality, she wasn't known to be gay, but she wasn't known to be straight either. It's not a far stretch to think she might have been a lesbian.

by Anonymousreply 39December 13, 2020 3:43 AM

Saw this on demand. I thought it was very good. Francis Lee is so talented, and the actresses were great

by Anonymousreply 40January 1, 2021 6:00 PM

ssss

by Anonymousreply 41January 1, 2021 6:00 PM

When this lesbian drama was being promoted at the Toronto film festival, Saoirse and her alleged “boyfriend” were seen going on a date in London. Oh boy don’t you love the irony.

by Anonymousreply 42January 1, 2021 6:05 PM

We live in a world where Jennifer Lawrence, Brie Larson, and Emma Stone have Oscars. Saoirse ain’t stopping till she gets one.

by Anonymousreply 43January 1, 2021 6:07 PM

[quote]Saoirse ain’t stopping till she gets one.

She should have won for BROOKLYN.

by Anonymousreply 44January 1, 2021 6:11 PM

I've never seen Brooklyn but snooty Brie did nothing special in "Room". Good but not great. And that French chick should have won over Stoner for "Elle".

The other French babe should have won over that tacky, over-pampered Lawrence for "Amour".

by Anonymousreply 45January 1, 2021 6:14 PM

I think Alicia Vikander was less deserving than Larson, Stone, or Lawrence. There, I said it!

by Anonymousreply 46January 1, 2021 6:21 PM

Didn't Alicia mainly win for her role as that robot? Besides, her category was really weak.

by Anonymousreply 47January 1, 2021 6:54 PM

Correct Actress/Supporting Actress Oscar Winners 2010 - 2020 (from the nominees only)

2010: Annette Bening/Helena Bonham Carter

2011: Meryl/Octavia

2012: Emmanuelle Riva/Sally Field

2013: Blanchett/Lupita

2014: Julianne Moore/Pat Arquette

2015: Saorise Ronan/Alicia V

2016: Isabelle Hubbert/Viola Davis

2017: Frances McD/ Laurie Metcalfe

2018: Olivia/Emma Stoner

2019: Renee/Scarlett Jo

2020: Viola/Maria Bakalova

by Anonymousreply 48January 1, 2021 7:14 PM

At least they have more chemistry than Cate and Rooney in Carol. I didn’t buy those 2 at all.

by Anonymousreply 49January 1, 2021 7:21 PM

I thought Cate and Rooney had chemistry. I love Carol.

by Anonymousreply 50January 1, 2021 7:24 PM

[quote]I think Alicia Vikander was less deserving than Larson, Stone, or Lawrence. There, I said it!

She won in Supporting and deserved it for THE DANISH GIRL.

by Anonymousreply 51January 1, 2021 7:26 PM

It was a lead performance and only won because of category fraud

by Anonymousreply 52January 1, 2021 7:28 PM

I watched it as my first movie for 2021.

I enjoyed it. It was a bit slow in the first half, but picked up at the end. I did like Portrait of a Lady on Fire better, but it was an interesting look at the isolation Mary Anning must of felt at times.

On a side note, Winslet looked good and there was quite an eye-opening sex scene.

by Anonymousreply 53January 1, 2021 7:39 PM

I enjoyed it because I was able to see James McArdle's dick. It was a bit of a slog, otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 54January 1, 2021 7:45 PM

I don’t understand why every lesbian movie has to involve corsets.

The performances were solid, but it felt like they forgot to write most of the script.

by Anonymousreply 55January 1, 2021 7:46 PM

Oh dearing myself. *must've

I agree, R55, the script could've been stronger. I felt a little disconnected from each character.

by Anonymousreply 56January 1, 2021 7:54 PM

R55

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by Anonymousreply 57January 1, 2021 8:05 PM

The sex scene was horrible. Homely Saoirse’s little cheeks up in Kate’s face.

by Anonymousreply 58March 15, 2021 5:04 PM

Glad Winslet's latest desperation campaign of linking this movie to the metoo movement in the hopes of getting some awards failed miserably.

by Anonymousreply 59March 15, 2021 7:35 PM

I liked this movie but it does seem to have lesbian relationship stereotype known, including, spoiler alert, a variation of the UHaul. Plus long lingering looks without sex, a flirty ex girlfriend, salve, and warm compresses.

by Anonymousreply 60March 15, 2021 7:41 PM

What Uhaul R60?

by Anonymousreply 61March 15, 2021 8:33 PM

R3 I agree. But Winslet then went on to shit on both after it became unpopular to have worked for them. That's the point.

by Anonymousreply 62March 15, 2021 9:17 PM

[quote] We live in a world where Jennifer Lawrence, Brie Larson, and Emma Stone have Oscars. Saoirse ain’t stopping till she gets one.

She'll probably play a disabled person in some of downer Oscar bait film to get her Oscar.

by Anonymousreply 63March 24, 2021 10:31 PM

"seems like she put on a lot of weight, which I'm sure is historically accurate for the role, but removes any potential sexiness."

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you are a man. "Sexiness" is not just in looks but I'm guessing you don't understand that.

by Anonymousreply 64March 24, 2021 10:59 PM

Saw the movie, I really, REALLY wanted to like it, but I was disappointed.

Mary Anning was a groundbreaking and revolutionary paleontologist, and her life story is interesting, but the filmmakers just aren't interested in the most interesting thing about her - her discovery of an ancient world just sitting there under everyone's feet. They're interested in her isolation and her being at odds with society, and used this imaginary lez romance to explore it, the groundbreaking work is just something they used to make the audience feel sorry for her.

Plus, they used an obvious body double for Winslet in the nude scenes - I mean when the character is show nude it's always from the neck down. Cheap-ass cheat, at least CGI Winslet's head on!

by Anonymousreply 65March 25, 2021 2:26 AM

R65 Those were Kate’s tits.

by Anonymousreply 66March 25, 2021 3:01 AM

I’ll never forget the image of that scrawny girl’s butt cheeks firmly planted on Kate’s chin.

by Anonymousreply 67March 25, 2021 3:04 AM

If it was Kate, R66, why were her face and her tits never in the same shot?

by Anonymousreply 68March 25, 2021 4:17 AM

R68 IDK but I’ve seen all her other nude roles and those were hers.

by Anonymousreply 69March 25, 2021 6:13 AM

[quote]If it was Kate, [R66], why were her face and her tits never in the same shot?

They are- during the scene where Ronan is going down on her, right before she puts her fanny on her face.

by Anonymousreply 70March 25, 2021 6:58 AM

Does Kate eat Saoirse ?

Kate could eat a horse.

by Anonymousreply 71March 25, 2021 7:50 AM

Rolls eyes at R14. Oppression wars.

by Anonymousreply 72March 25, 2021 8:20 AM

This movie ended up being a real flop.

by Anonymousreply 73March 25, 2021 8:23 AM

It was no "God's Own Country," that's for sure.

by Anonymousreply 74March 25, 2021 9:47 AM

The first half interiors were very darkly lit so I was glad went went to the beach. I was a bit shocked when Kate had her self-bathing scene right in front of her mother.

by Anonymousreply 75March 25, 2021 9:50 AM

R71 Kate eats twice, Saoirse once.

by Anonymousreply 76March 25, 2021 3:18 PM

How are Kate's boobs holding up? They were already sagging when she unnecessarily got them out in "Iris" 20 years ago..

by Anonymousreply 77March 25, 2021 4:51 PM

R75 I was a bit shocked when Kate urinated on screen in that film whose name I've forgotten.

by Anonymousreply 78March 25, 2021 10:43 PM

R78 I was surprised Cate Blanchett filmed a scene on the toilet where she's drying her fanny or ass in "Notes On A Scandal". Was completely unnecessary.

by Anonymousreply 79March 26, 2021 7:48 AM

R77 They looked surprisingly good and sturdy like in the old days. Do they bounce back after having been a milk factory?

by Anonymousreply 80March 26, 2021 7:59 AM

R78 R79 I'm not seeing the problem.

by Anonymousreply 81March 26, 2021 8:06 AM

La vie d'Adèle is the best lesbian film, mainly because of the sex scenes. I masturbated a lot for them.

by Anonymousreply 82March 26, 2021 8:21 AM

[quote] her fanny or ass

R79 Were Cate's visible on camera like Kate's streaming urine?

by Anonymousreply 83March 26, 2021 8:51 AM

Katherine Waterston and Vanessa Kirby have done a lesbian period piece movie called The World To Come. By the way, I like both those actresses. Remember Disobedience with Rachel Weisz spitting in Rachel McAdams's mouth. That was hot. And it wasn't a period piece, so good on them.

by Anonymousreply 84March 26, 2021 9:32 AM

R83 no. But some dirty bird on YouTube added a fart noise to the scene!

What movie does Winslet pish in?

by Anonymousreply 85March 26, 2021 11:31 AM

R85 "Holy Smoke!" 1999

See www.aznude.com

by Anonymousreply 86March 26, 2021 12:05 PM

Not Kate's first time at the rodeo.

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by Anonymousreply 87March 26, 2021 12:09 PM

Winslet should have won the Oscar for "Sense and Sensibility". She didn't deserve it for "The Reader" where she was good but not outstanding.

She was excellent in "Eternal Sunshine" but Imelda Staunton should have won for "Vera Drake".

by Anonymousreply 88March 26, 2021 10:07 PM

R88 Shit. She should have won for Titanic.

by Anonymousreply 89March 26, 2021 10:13 PM

No R89 Dame Judi should have won for "Mrs Brown"

by Anonymousreply 90March 26, 2021 10:45 PM

I watched this the other day. Wow, what a bore

by Anonymousreply 91March 26, 2021 11:38 PM

R82, Blue is the Warmest Color was overrated. Plus, there wasn't a bunch of chemistry with the actresses. They were going through the motions, i.e. put your hand here, thrust here...was a bore.

by Anonymousreply 92March 27, 2021 8:57 PM

[quote]The performances were solid, but it felt like they forgot to write most of the script.

^^ Seconded. Or thirded. I've lost count in this thread.

I finally watched this yesterday and was disappointed. As many have said, it felt like a lot of the story was missing. Mary's longing was clear and developed, but Charlotte's arc -- from depressed wife to passionate lover -- was weirdly sudden and unexplained. It felt like several scenes that might have established how/when Charlotte develops feelings for Mary were left on the cutting-room floor.

To the poster who asked about the U-Haul, I'm not R60 but I assume [SPOILERS FOLLOW] he/she meant Charlotte basically moving Mary into her London home as a "surprise."

And that ending was a huge lazy cop-out, IMO. "We can't figure out how to end this movie, so we'll just leave it completely vague and let the audience make something up on their own."

I agree with the other posters eager to see a really great non-period lesbian film. A happy ending would be nice, too.

by Anonymousreply 93April 4, 2021 1:19 PM

I thought she was invited for a visit and then Suzuki said here is a room you can live in from now on. And Kate so now way I am not a bird in a gilded cage.

by Anonymousreply 94April 4, 2021 1:46 PM
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