Lee Grant never said no to plastic surgery

I truly did not believe that was her until she started speaking

Well, she is 90. She needed it.

Her house looks nice.

Loved her in The Landlord.

jesus

R5: Yes, my son?

I love The Landlord (1970). Lee is hilarious in it.

In the middle of the interview, she should've excused herself to go heat the lasagna.

The surgery is terrifying, but her demeanor and movement seems so sturdy and steady for someone of that age. She seems like she takes good care of her self both physically and mentally. I'd be thrilled to be like that at her age.

Yikes. She was always fabulous though.

I read her memoir and it was very good. She was blacklisted for a long time, one of the worst on the Commie list. She said YES to plastic surgery but that's normal for women in Hollywood. She' a great gal and I don't hold it against her.

She writes in her memoir that she always had a lot of issues with her age because she lost most of her youth to the blacklist. She says she had a facelift at like 30.

Lee said that she was born in 1925 which makes her 95 this year.

I always loved the way she screamed DAMIEN!!!!! at the end of Omen 2.

At 95, all pussy is dry and brittle.

Star of Airport 77, The Swarm and Omen 2!!!!

(her husband would spend all her money on trying to get his films made so she had to take anything she was offered. Odd thing is I love those three films which are all considered trash by some. And Airport 77 has Brenda Vacarro too!)

R15, Perhaps for some.

I loved her in “it’s my party“

I never said no to Fritos.

The hair is also distracting.

But she certainly is lively and mentally with it for someone almost 100.

It's very sad that she lost her grandson, Dinah's child, a few years ago. I believe he was either driving back home for Xmas break or returning to college just after.

Here she is at 92, presenting as a woman decades younger.

What roles would have suited Lee in the 90s to present day? The face work eventually worked against her getting cast, I'm sure.

she looks strange but she seems to all there and quite vital and alive.

Who remembers her NBC sitcom "Fay"?

After it was abruptly cancelled, Lee went on the Tonight Show and trashed NBC while Johnny just sat back and enjoyed the verbal tirade.

Johnny himself had a few choice words for NBC during that era. A lot of people did if they could barely launch a hit show in prime time that wasn’t connected to Gary Coleman in some way. They still had Disney but they were similarly stagnant.

I do think the surgery kept her from major roles after the 90's. The last time I saw her on screen was her cameo in Mulholland Drive where she looked horrifying. I wasn't sure if it was an intentional makeup job at first.

The paparazzi photographer is being so kind calling her lovely many times, or is he throwing shade.

LOVE HER. Always have. It's sad that her doctor did such AGRESSIVE work. And she must have had this surgery in her 80's+ (based on videos, ect)

It looks like they gave her permanent lip implants, permanent cheek implants, a complete eye job and a brow lift/and/or facelift.

To boot, she is stuffed with more fillers than Wildenstein.

That's ALOT. That being said, she is a great conversationalist and is SO mentally alert. Its pretty great-

For reference, below. She was a beautiful woman, and probably would have aged nicely.

How dare you suggest such a thing!

But seriously - she seems like a really cool old lady, and what a life!

Good grief, she looks like a Neanderthal!

She's amazing and she hates Trump to boot.

And listen to her talk about who she has worked with- She is extremely gracious and a very GRATEFUL woman. I think a lot of this has let her to live to this ripe old age.

I just saw her in an old Columbo on MeTV last week. She was really good and I have always liked her. She doesn’t look horrible in those clips but think it is an impossible task to maintain ones same look in old age, hair and all.

She was so regal looking in the 1970s.

Why, that's Fay!

I love her! She's still so feisty and "with it" and I think we can only hope and pray to be as sharp as she is at that age. I do think being blacklisted at such a young age made her very vain, hence the first face lift at 30. That's a bit extreme. She was clearly trying to make up for all that lost time, but she was looking pretty normal well into the 90's. Not sure what happened after that.

The surgery she's had to maintain her "40 look" is truly horrifying, it's like these people must not have mirrors in their house or their eyesight is 90% gone. However, the younger "Lee Grant" face that we all knew and loved , as has been stated, was manufactured.

Well, how old is her daughter, Dinah, now? She must be ancient.

Overview:

Her AA win. Lily in a tiara. Oh my....

I do love how she has had the same hairstyle for 50 years!!!

Her hair looks fucking great- remember when 65 year old grandmothers let it all go to shit and have gray perms!!!?

What a great lady. And her face does sadden me, but she has a natural beauty that still shines through.

[quote] She looks like a Neanderthal!

FFS, she's 95!

I know this is a gossip board, but this quibbling about her physical appearance is ridiculous.

She won that Oscar in 1976 and kept the exact same hairdo for 45 years.

Lee Grant in all her glory back in the day.

Her face looks like it's melting off the bone, but even still, she looks great for someone who is 95 years old--even more importantly, she still seems sharp as a tack.

It’s not just her mental faculties that were obviously intact when she was interviewed departing LAX but, more astonishingly, the manner in which she carries herself suggests someone so much younger.

There's so much pain in general on the DL. I love this thread, and thank you for creating it.

Imagine. She' was born 3 years before Capucine who's been dead 3 decades.

Lee looks/sounds fantastic. National Treasure.

Honor Blackman managed to look great into her eighties. I echo others' comments that Lee still has her faculties and that's more important. She's an interesting person. And she shouldn't have to please our eyes.

weird that all these heavily surgically enhanced women eventually looked the same in the face

It's not that weird. Many of them were trying to improve their looks - e.g. a little, upturned nose versus their original, more ethnic nose. The Debbie Harrys of the world, who have maintained their beauty by pulling everything up but not altering their original features, are more rare.

Lee reminds of a lot of the tiny aged Jewish ladies on the UES. They live forever.

She could be the successor to the OdH meme, no?

I love her and loved her bio. She was great on Peyton Place.

The "hair" she wore for so long was a fall or hairpiece for the hair knowledge challenged. I thought she looked great too. HOWEVER, a 95, hell a 75 year old, trying to achieve the very same look of herself multiple decades earlier, looks ridiculous. And pathetic. It's like women or men who use black hair dye when they're 75. Ewww.

It's only sad because she was so attractive and could have aged so gracefully and beautifully. Hard to know why she kept going under the knife, especially when it became clear that she was no longer enhancing her looks but detracting from them.

I've always like her very much, though. Met her once. Super nice and chatty.

[Quote] Hard to know why she kept going under the knife

It only takes one bad procedure. And what follows is the attempts at correction.

I don't see teeth, are there any left?

R60- If she went under the knife for multiple procedures for her face in her 80's, I have a feeling that her teeth are perfect. Probably caps, veneers, bridges, ect

I never said no to McDonald's!!!!!!! Supersize Me !!!!!

[quote]R50 Imagine. She' was born 3 years before Capucine who's been dead 3 decades.

CAPUCINE!

A long time ago in a galaxy far away....

R48 I so agree. It's the way she moves. I wonder if she has some secret to staying youthfully agile or if it's genes.

I can understand vanity and the Hollywood mentality to stay as youthful as possible as long as possible, but the unwillingness to mature gracefully with multiple plastic surgeries rears it's ugly head once they manage to life to a ripe age.

I Google Image searched Lee and one of the images that came up was a TV movie she did with Molly Ringwald about a young woman (Ringwald) who contracts HIV. Grant played Ringwald's mother - not grandmother. I thought that rather explains Lee Grant's dedication to plastic surgery. I don't know if there's a grandmother character in that movie but if there is, I'd bet it's not as good a part as that of the mother. Lee wanted to stay in the game as best she could. She wasn't trying to be 25 when she was 50. She was trying to play the best/meatiest parts available. I don't blame her. And let's be honest, if she had results like Debbie Harry, it wouldn't even be an issue.

R67, Grant's dedication to plastic surgery started 20 years earlier after she lost more than a decade of potential work to the blacklist.

She had WAY TOO MUCH surgery at well past any point of justifying the need for it. Tragic.

[Quote] Grant's dedication to plastic surgery started 20 years earlier after she lost more than a decade of potential work to the blacklist.

My point still stands. Grant wanted to stay in the "mother" group (or the DA stage of Debutante-District Attorney-Driving Miss Daisy). And it worked for her, for decades. She was Carrie Fisher's mother in Shampoo (mid 1970s) and she managed to hang on long enough to play Molly Ringwald's mother in the mid 1990s.

Where is the decade of lost work? There was a drought in Grant's movie work - she did movies in 1951, 1955 and 1959. But she was still active on TV.

Yeah her first face lift was at 29, but who really needs a face lift at 29? I think she's addicted to it. The fact is, she doesn't "look great" she looks like an old woman who had work done and it's all you can look at. I've known women in their 80s and 90s who have looked really good with nowork of any kind. Yeah, some had wrinkles, but I think people look unnatural and actually bad with no wrinkles at that age. She probably would have grown old nicely, she was always attractive. It's sad. And the hairstyle of a 30-year-old doesn't help either.

R12, are you sure you have that right? If she was born in 1925 and had her (first) facelift at 30, that meant she had a facelift in 1955. Did they really even do facelifts in the 1950s?

At any rate, if she had a facelift that early and that young, it wasn't the blacklist that was going on in her head.

I think her work happened well after the 1980s, when she still looked normal.

Regardless of when she had it, she's now had too much, looks frightful now, and has looked a fright for years.

Her mouth is so distracting. She's got so much filler in her upper lip that her teeth don't show, which, upon closer observation is a good thing. They are horribly, horribly discolored. Why would someone have THAT much cosmetic surgery and neglect their teeth???

Yes R56 I remember her first from the night time soap version of Peyton Place. She was terrific.

She - or her character, or a bit of both - is really annoying in Detective Story her first movie - I think she got a BSA Oscar nomination for it - and she could be really cloying. She may have missed out on a few roles, but I think her talent and feline features would have limited her to supporting roles during that time.

Blacklist!!!! Blacklist.....my career!!!! She did okay. As the poster above said she worked a lot on television.

From Lee Grant, below. All you really need to know about her obsession with appearing young:

"As an actress who was blacklisted as a girl, from the time I was 24, when I got my first Oscar nomination, to 36 when I restarted my career, I gained a heightened sense of “ getting it back” and “running with it.” Of letting nothing get in my way. Of staying 36 and not getting older."

[quote]Did they really even do facelifts in the 1950s?

Yes. Facelifts have been done for over 100 years. There was a woman, Fannie Ward, who was in a DeMille silent, The Cheat, who was 43 but played young women because she'd had her face lifted a few times - apparently her husband did, too. Clive Brook, who was in Shanghai Express with Marlene Dietrich, had a face lift that left his face kind of immobile. Etc.

Her'e what I quoted from.

*Here's

And here's the rest of the quote from Lee Grant:

"It put me on a high alert of looking young, of not having anyone find out that I was getting older – 37, 38, ahh! 40!"

R73, Lee got her Rosenthal nose fixed in her twenties. It changed her look. I doubt she got a full facelift at 30, that's absurd.

[quote] I doubt she got a full facelift at 30, that's absurd.

Doubt all you want, she said it herself, in her autobiography. And I'm pretty sure she said it was at 29. I read the book, btw.

R73, are you not aware that people lie and embellish their stories?

WHET to her daughter Dinah Manoff?

Lee doesn't even say her birth year, does she? I expect she claims 29 as the first facelift, when she was more likely 35/36.

I figure she is 97 or something- Not 95

And that's not filler in her lip- That is a fucking implant or something permanent I think. Same with the cheeks.

That's why it is all so hard looking-

LOVE HER THOUGH. And she is one young 95- She's more like 68-70! (Her body language/mental acuity)

97... Shall we make Lee Grant the new Olivia de H?

She's not 97. According to her, she was born in 1925. At her oldest, she's 95.

Doris Day came out as older not long before she died.

Why would a 97-year-old woman bother to say she's 95?

[quote] Lee doesn't even say her birth year, does she? I expect she claims 29 as the first facelift, when she was more likely 35/36.

Even if she lies about her age, why would she need to lie about what her age was when she had a face lift? No one is going to check the medical records. But even if she had it in her early or mid 30s, that's incredibly young to have a face lift.

I've heard more than one old school celebrity recommend a facelift pre 40 (I assume late 30s rather than 31). Debbie Reynolds said that you get two good facelifts before you look odd, so space them out. I would guess that she or those other old schoolers meant 40 ish and then late 50s / 60 ish. After that, leave it or use tape ( if you're a woman and you wear wigs).

Scary face work aside, I still can't get over how spry and quick she is in that airport paparazzi clip. I've known 27 year olds who don't move that quickly and seem that alert. I'm more interested in what her secret is there. Does she workout every day? Do brain teasers? What's her secret to staying so engaged and vital?

I don't know Grant's history of speaking on the subject but if she mentioned the year of her first facelift in an interview before writing her autobiography, then that meant that she had decided on what age she wanted people to think she is, hence the "29" claim.

*that meant she had to decide

I believe Angela Lansbury said she got her first facelift around 40 right before doing Mame. Of course, she always looked more mature than her age, so it didn't really make her look younger, just well preserved.

Grant moved into directing documentaries, didn't she? It wouldn't surprise me if she keeps engaged, always on the look out for another subject, even if she hasn't completed one in donkey's years.

She looks great and acts so youthful. She needs a prestige miniseries or something.

[quote]Lee Grant never said no to bad plastic surgery.

There, OP. I fixed it for you.

Who would play Lee Grant? Sarah Paulson would jump at the chance but she's totally wrong.

R90, So did Katharine Hepburn, setting the record straight that she was born in 1907, not 1909.

R88, What about Cicely Tyson at 95?

Does Cicely Tyson have a persona? Phylicia Rashad, I can see, but she's in her 70s, right?

She is amazingly vital for someone in her 90s, so I’m going to give her a pass. She moves more like a woman in her late 60s or early 70s in that interview at the airport.

[quote]are you not aware that people lie and embellish their stories?

Well, few women lie about HAVING had a face lift, it's usually the opposite.

This is Helen Hunt’s sorry-assed future if she isn’t careful!

[quote]She looks great and acts so youthful. She needs a prestige miniseries or something.

How much are you having to squint or blur your eyes to say she looks great?

[Quote] This is Helen Hunt’s sorry-assed future if she isn’t careful!

Lee Grant looked great back in the day. Helen Hunt has never had far to fall.

R106 = so naive. When it comes to a person like Lee Grant.

Is she sorry she wore that ugly vintage wedding dress the night she won the Oscar for "Shampoo"?

Her teeth are awful. They're brown FFS.

Helen Lawson had at least 1 face lift. I think it was after she came back from divorcing the Jamaican sugar baron.

Lansbury knew when to stop and/or knew better surgeons than Grant.

dangerous to go under for sugery, anaethesia, when ur past 80, many die on the table

Tell me about it r115!

Eva Marie saint at the 2018 oscars age 93.

[quote] Lansbury knew when to stop and/or knew better surgeons than Grant.

Stop? When did she start?

R97 said she started @ 40

This explains why her husband's name was "Manoff."

I think she's awesome, and I'd love to have a boozy dinner with her and listen to her dish.

"93 and Killing It" is an ill advised title.

she is iconic....one of the alltime greats

more power to her, she looks fabulous !

I actually found a site that has all of her documentaries. You can rent them for $6.99 each. I will eventually get around to watching each. And its not lost on me that her documentaries are actually extremely timely considering they were made 30 years ago. She was ahead of the curve. Great lady.

Grant is so pathetic. Claiming that 'older women' could never get work, hence her multiple surgeries, etc..

Tell that to Cloris Leachman (who is also 95), Eva Marie Saint, and many, many others who continued and still continue to get work after age 65-70. Grant's been bitching about this SINCE SHE WON HER OSCAR.

How sad.

R13 Yes, almost ninety-six now.

For a man who never said "no" to plastic surgery, you'd think Mary's boss would look better than he does.

R70 Don't forget she played Damian Thorn's mum too... In [italic] Damian: Omen II [/italic] (1978) perhaps even twice; it's difficult for me to remember.

She also played the mum of a young girl who had demonic powers... I forget the name of the film, but in it she played a witch who also had such powers. She could hurl things around her kitchen with just a thought. It was hilarious, and campy at the same time, yet I don't think that's what they were going for.

That was the classic, cheesy TV movie THE SPELL. It was a CARRIE rip-off.

wait till ur old hun, u will want to lift that mess up too..

R125 she was bitching about it long before that........

thanks for a lifetime of liberal support lee, ur awesome, and ur films will live 4 ever