WTF is wrong with French people?!!

Rien de tout

I didn't even read OP. The French have no service ethic at all; and yet, people flocked back for more b/s abuse, before their tourism industry was wiped out by the Rona.

The québécois french are even worse

I've actually never had a problem with the French. It's the Swiss and the British that always seem to be cunts.

Trois/Dix

On s'en branle.

Avale mes couilles grosse pute !!!

R3 speaks truth.

And the answer, op, is everything. Everything is wrong with the French. They are assholes to the core of their beings. All Europeans are. Dorky fucking snaggletoothed stinkbombs.

Fuck France, what a dump.

Quebec is not France, despite what France may think cunts.

My experience with the French has been slightly different. They love to say "I know you think I'm being rude, but I'm just being French! Hehehehe!" They think it's so funny, especially when said to Americans.

[quote] On s'en branle.

Says Macron before he sees how much his country is not getting from non-returning mistreated tourists (and that was before France became an epicenter for the pandemic). There was a minister in the past over there who told the natives to be nice to the tourists because, we need them: IGNORE.

Yeah I’m sure a lot of Americans were “mistreated” in Paris and planning on “not returning.”

Only America and Japan have excellent customer service. Most of Europe including France will consider you an annoyance.

The ancien regime, the revolutionary Terror, the bloody wars of Napoleon which destroyed millions of lives all over Europe, the constant political upheavals and international scheming, the reactionary Napoleon III, the loss of the Franco-Prussian War, Devil's Island, the Dreyfus Affair, the collaboration with the Nazis, Vichy, war in Algeria and all over the world after WW2, . France, customarily considered a civilized country like China and Iran and Greece, has been allowed to get away with a lot. It was still regarded as a victorious power in 1945 with a zone in Berlin and a permanent seat on the UN Security Council. Cancel-France-Now.

Where Americans can be unctuous with their fake smiles and fake familiarity, the French can be quick to give a reminder that you've neglected an expected courtesy.

American:. Where is the bathroom?

French: Bonjour! [Because you didn't acknowledge the person before asking a question] The bathroom [I know exactly what you mean but because you treated me like a robot and not a human I will emphasize the strangeness of your 'bathroom' word] is through that door, and then to the right. [Waits to hear a crisp 'Merci.']

[quote] rude sarcastic responses; scolding

That's all the French can manage these days. Go to Paris, it has nothing going for it any more. It is just like any other large city in the developed world, bland with lots of McDonald's. The French are resentful that their culture has failed. Outside Quebec where else do they speak French than in Timbuktu and close environs, in all of which the President of the French Republic has a great deal of influence no doubt. When the French assemble in the EU HQ in Brussels they have to speak English; English is the language of the EU even though only Ireland and Malta use English as one of their official languages. The French hate that, esp as their language was the old diplomatic language. Bye.

Oh, but...

R15 In my expedience, they were just assholes and bullies, I greeted them at first before requesting the films, thanked them in advance, and then thanked and complimented them when someone provided the movies links. I politely replied to one of their sarcastic comments but they just won't stop until the admin banned me! It's like they felt insulted that I would search and ask them for french movies while not being able to speak their language!

R17 pauve Clo-Clo est mort dans sa baignoire.

OP, could you provide a link to the site? I'm looking for Le Gout Des Autres. Je m'en fous s'ils m'engueulent.

Paris has a big Metro subway stop called Franklin D. Roosevelt. No reason to trouble the natives to look at that, though.

But you're already familiar with DL: you should be used to people who are assholes just because.

I enjoy some aspects of Paris and France, and try to be a good visitor, but sometimes can't win for trying. Like many other things, I like the idea of what I think it is more than the reality.

Running on empty: France since Vichy and definitely since Dien Bien Phu.

Don't try R23. To get along there you have to treat the staff with contempt or else they will treat you with contempt. The French are real cunts. And it is a shithole country with lots of no-go zones.

R22 DL is a paradise in comparison to what i've experienced in this vile french site. I'm not joking. I expected any poster to jump in and smooth things over but they all kept on bullying me (with no apparent reason). They lacked humanity.

[quote]Paris has a big Metro subway stop called Franklin D. Roosevelt. No reason to trouble the natives to look at that, though.

And what exactly is your point? There are THOUSANDS of French-derived place names in the U.S. and many of those from figures in French history who had a connection to the U.S. I've never heard a French person belittle an American because he didn't give thanks for the Louisiana Purchase, for the contributions of Lafayette, for L'Enfant, for providing the impetus of some of Jefferson's more important ideas, for the gift of the goddamned Statue of Liberty.

And yet Americans think they deserve a hero's welcome wherever they go in the world. They want people to stop and listen and help them with their questions and listen to some story about a soft serve ice cream shop that's the most famous in all of Indians. They get fucking pissy because they get off a plane at CDG and think they should be received ad if disembarking from Air Force One. They want a showering of thanks and applause at every time. Because what?

*Indiana (not Indians)

Les cunts.

Sorry, I completely disagree. I lived and worked in Paris for years, and still travel there several times a year, and never had the types of problems described here. Are there assholes? Sure...just like in the US. Complaining about the rude French has been an American pastime for decades. It’s a tired cliche’, kept in circulation by people who have never been there, or who refuse to believe there are entire societies who may not agree that the American way is the only way. Stay home, please. Everyone will be much happier.

[quote] still travel there several times a year

In the pandemic? Link or it didn't happen b/s at R29.

France pays de merde.

Girls, girls, stop bickering. You're both cunts.

R30 I was there in February, and the year isn’t over, is it? Did I say I went during the pandemic? No. You aren’t terribly good at reasoning or debate, are you?

Viens t'asseoir près de moi, r29.

I had a wonderful time in Paris. The only rude people were the big Asian tour groups at Versailles. They wouldn't stop pushing and running in to me.

My friend and I got lost a few times and we were always politely helped by a French person. If we went to stores, we always greeted clerks and said goodbye when we left. We tried to speak French when we could, but most people who knew English would switch to it without asking.

We just really didn't want to be a stereotypical American tourist and we had a great time.

Also, I have two lovely French friends. They can be frank, but they're never rude or snooty.

Thank god Americans aren't like that.

Wait, have you been on THIS board before?

[quote] I was there in February, and the year isn’t over, is it? Did I say I went during the pandemic? No. You aren’t terribly good at reasoning or debate, are you?

I feel a Google translation cheri.

Have you even read the Marseillaise?

To arms, citizens, Form your battalions, Let's march, let's march! Let an impure blood Water our furrows!

Europeans are weird and annoying in general except for people from Great Britain.

The French are like the Italians and the Greeks: they get a pass for something. Culture certainly, for all three. Apart from that the French should be in the trashcan of history along with the Italians and the Greeks. The French are supposed to have won WWII: can you imagine anything so stupid? Poland also 'won' the war; but France 'won' the War outside the Soviet influence so they are a big deal whereas Poland is not. France has had a charmed life but pretends that its life is all of its own making. But what did it do? Look at R14.

If it wasn't for the Americans the Bastille would have fallen like it was made out of crepe paper

A bas la France!

I’ve been to Paris three times, and never had trouble with anyone. However, I do speak French passably enough to manage a conversation. At least I did then; now probably not so much.

I also met French people who, as soon as I’d spoken French to them, responded to me in English. I think, by and large, they all appreciated my efforts to communicate with them in their language, instead of haughtily expecting them to know mine.

Laughable. The French can't speak English. They don't get it at all. Their English is crap but no one dares call them about on it.

Dear Americans, please stay in your own country. We here in Europe don't need you! We don't need your grossly overindulged appetites, your obsessions with 'freedom', your preachy evangelism, your racial hatreds, your appalling carbon footprint, your inability to speak anything other than loud, slow, English. We especially don't need the sociopathic clown that you elected and his refusal to stick to any international agreement that actually seeks to make life better on this planet. Please build the wall all around your border and stay behind it. France will be fine, it existed for hundreds of years before the puritanical lunatics who founded you got kicked out of England.

love and kisses

le vieux continent.

[quote] your obsessions with 'freedom',

This how Boris gives herself away. Esp the inverted commas around 'freedom'.

You can tell the writer has been a Serf all her life in old Muscovy, a whore to Poo-Tin.

She has never been free. Fuck her for trying to control the free. Cunt.

OP's story is the kind of story where you know there are two sides.

Also, has OP ever seen how rude they are on DL? He wouldn't last a minute there.

R11, France was the most visited country in the world before coronavirus, so if France was losing visitors so was everyone else.

R45 enjoy a depressed economy. Americans literally keep your country alive. Without us you’re gonna feel it. Cunt.

What a mess of a thread.

Name this website, already, OP. GOD.

OP, how can you suggest the French are not a welcoming people?

The French allowed thousands and thousands of people without civilisation or sanitation into their nation, people who are more used to dealing with breeding goats than anything else.

The USA allowed Tashfeen Malik and the Tsarnaevs in but not many others.

R49 is under the bizarre impression that the US economy is doing well and isn't being fucked up by the pandemic either. In the meantime, while France and the rest of Europe have the virus generally under control and international travel is returning, the virus still rages in America, with record deaths and infections each day in some states.

No one likes Americans and with good reason.

I always enjoy traveling to France. Beautiful countryside and historic towns. I am amazed by the rich culture, great cuisine, architecture and have lots of sex with huge dicked Frenchman. That being said before you go you must accept two things. The French are world champ cunts and the customer is always WRONG.

OP that was indeed rude of you not to thank them. You thank them when you receive the link. You thank then again when you've successfully downloaded the films

My xenophobic Swiss-French coworker told me how much he's enjoying the summer over there with no American, Indian, Chinese, and Japanese tourists. Says it's "heaven" and wishes they would never return.

Part xenophobia and part just tired of tourists who are loud and pushy.

R41 Actually the French and the rest of Europe should thank the Soviets/ Russians who fought the German: Axis forces in the Eastern Front. German army suffered about 80% of losses and casualties there fighting the Russians. Almost 9 million Russian troops died in WW2. If it wasn’t for them the Germans would’ve easily overtaken France and GB plus hold onto rest of Western Europe. Americans are only taught the wrong history because of the Cold War. The French however have no excuse when reminded of this fact. They always like to think their nation was saved by a handful of French resistance fighters.

Plenty of youtube walking tours of Paris and other European cities some uploaded just hours or days ago.

One can see for oneself how the Parisians are faring since DL reports all is merde.

here's a vid from a few days ago - not many masks thats for sure.

France is done. Much like the US are done. Two great nations, now on the decline.

And in both cases, people can't deal with their country going down.

Suce ma grosse bite.

[quote]France is done. Much like the US are done. Two great nations, now on the decline.

The difference between France and other key European countries in world history, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Netherlands, etc. is that they have been at various periods "Number 1" and for the rest of the time they have not.

They have a lot of practice at not being the alpha center of the world because they know their various Golden Ages do not last forever.

The U.S. does not have this perspective. Yet. The U.S. are Number 1 in very few measures of which to be proud or even unashamed. When they sense the truth of this they lash back with old tropes about WWII and Rock and Roll and modern music and that boorish American tourists somehow are directly responsible for the well being of all those Parisians and Romans teeming the streets of their cities in smart clothes and briefcases and laptops (every one of them a rude waiter, evidently.)

The Parisian, the Roman, the Madrileño, the Amsterdammers are okay with not being in first position on the world stage. In fact they give it no thought and get on very nicely indeed. They work at their own problems and their own successes without having to score themselves against other nations as though there is a prize pig to be won. They have beautiful cities and countries, they have their own successes and failures on a national and personal level.

Unlike Americans, they don't see everything as an international competition. They don't lose time to holding onto some notion of being king of the world even when they know they the door on that is closing; that they are no longer #1 but more likely #14 or #34. Ask a Frenchman or a Spaniard if he is powerful and strong and you will likely get an odd look. Ask him if he is happy with his life and where he lives and you will have asked the better question.

"We're No. 1!" clings to a past that already gone by so so many measures. Even 'MAGA' acknowledges this is its "Again!" There's nothing wrong with this, the U.S. remains a great and important center if the world even as it rapidly flows away from being *the* center. Americans should find things to make them happy about their lives and where they live rather than cling so desperately to old distinctions and old grudges. Learn to enjoy what you have is the way to move away from being angry about what you worry you have lost.

OP I’m sorry to read this but yes French speakers are cunts. Don’t ever go to France. You’ll get conned and treated like shit.

I moved to France wanting to settle in Paris but got bored quickly. Outside the tourist sites, it's a very grim city. I packed up and I'm now starting anew in Rome. A more organically beautiful city without people with sticks up their ass.

Why do you believe either Paris or Rome would want you, r65?

Nobody likes a tourist.

Merde!

R67 why not? As long as there not rude....

upthread the Americans are being bashed(again) but in my experience they are much much much friendlier than the French. I’ve not met rude Americans(yet) and when on holiday in France it’s all we ever get. The arrogance over there really is absurd.

I did meet some southern Americans that were not bright, the hillbilly type of guys but they were still more helpful than any French person I’ve come across in France.

It's just the Internet, OP. People showing their worst, bitchiest side, simply because they can.

Absolutely, R57.

I don't think that's a French thing, it's more of an internet online movie bro thing.

Back on Usenet, rec.food.cooking and rec.arts.movies.past-films were always like that, and there were very few French posters. They would derail, insult, complain, whine, attack, the whole nine yards. When I moved on from Usenet to LiveJournal they were the same way. Some crazy people would think you personally should respond to them personally every time they posted, and be on the group 24/7, and do everything exactly so or else you should be SHAMED!! and also SHUNNED!!! forever.

I think forums are especially prone to that kind of thing, while social media, because it's so huge, doesn't get that "pay attention to me and my 4000 rules" attitude as much.

Je m'en fiche.

[quote]I registered in a french film site for uploading and downloading movies...[/quote]

Why should OP expect anything nice and friendly on an illegal download website?

It is remiss of you, R14, not to observe that this disgraceful matter clearly goes back to the Carolingian dynasty, if not further. Abbot Suger made some pithy remarks to that effect.

Don't get me started on Maurice Chevalier and that affected accent!

[R44]: OK, Karen, tell us all about it.

Stupid moron.

R74 summarized it perfectly for you OP. And like others I would like to know the name of the website. Maybe I know it.

R44 in Europe we call them out, of course we do Since the end of the 90s they have supposedly learned more English in school but I haven’t noticed a difference so far. I think many also refuse to speak it when they are not abroad.

Anyone who can go to France and not have a great time is the real asshole.

R80 one can have a good time when interaction with the French is avoided

Japanese people travel around the world quite a lot. They are also big Francophiles and for many it is their European vacation destination of choice. But you often hear from Japanese who have visited there about how dirty, dangerous, and underwhelming Paris is. In fact Japanese travel agencies often warn people of this saying it’s a cultural thing. Also how impolite the French people are compared to the rest of Europe. It takes them by surprise as the Japanese are probably the most polite and considerate people both in their native land and when traveling abroad. In contrast, Japanese who have traveled abroad especially to the US always say how friendly the Americans are, the exact opposite of the French.

So the French reputation is deserved. I can understand the animus against Americans for being the dominant Western culture in the world. But why the same shitty attitude towards polite Japanese people visiting their country and spending money there? Because that’s the French attitude, it’s halfway between smug and contempt particularly in Paris. Better food there than Italy but I found the Italians to be much more friendly.

I'm American and I've lived in France twice. Paris is almost its own country, and the rudeness reputation is well deserved. I speak pretty good French, so my experiences have been better than Americans I know who don't speak it or struggle with the language. Parisians for the most part are not the friendliest. I got to know some after a few initial rude encounters and they're much nicer when you get to know them. Still, they have a penchant for constantly telling you what's wrong with you, your opinions, your tastes, etc. I learned to just shrug it off.

When I lived in Normandy, I thought the people were friendlier. I spent some time in the South of France and they seemed the friendliest there. Must be all that sun. But in both places, the people were still quick to tell you how they think you fell short in whatever area it happened to be. I used to laugh, too, because if a French person was naturally polite, nice, showed good manners, and didn't feel the need to tell you all the things that were wrong with you, other French people would talk about how nice and polite that person was in a reverent way. I used to think, "Why not just emulate him or her?"

What is the name of your shitty French film site, OP?

I think we need to have OP's film list and judge his taste based on that.

[quote] Don't get me started on Maurice Chevalier and that affected accent!

Morrie was an absolute HAM.

Maybe the French are made because Italian and (especially) Spanish men are so much hotter?

*mad*, not made

R26 "And what exactly is your point?"

Perhaps that the Metro stop isn't named "Adolph Hitler"? You know the one: two stops after "Hermann Göring" and just before "Pierre Laval."

on caca to paris was getting shit from cafe worker. Kind of out of blue asked me where i was from. Said nyc. Was suddenly so nice. What’s that about?

On caca ! On vaca

To put it in context, I doubt if the OP went on an Italian or Japanese film forum, for example, that he would’ve had the same experience. On the contrary the posters on those boards would have been glad that someone outside their culture appreciated those films.

[Quote]On caca ! On vaca

To be clear, sitting in your shit on a cow?

Was it really too taxing to type the rest of vacation, r90?

R94 what do you care?

Because I had to expose my eyeballs to your inane baby talk, r95.

Also, "pointless bitchery."

R96 Pet your poodle muumuu frau! I forgot about: Pointless bitchery. so on me

Calm down gurls

I would never own a poodle, r97. I'll pet my psychotic chihuahua instead.

Maybe the French are getting more pissy than usual because they can’t even get freshly made croissants anymore, most sold in Parisian bakeries are frozen pre-made. Their culinary culture, a big source of pride, has really taken a hit recent years.

[quote] Their culinary culture, a big source of pride, has really taken a hit recent years.

That's true. Most restaurants now serve frozen bought in meals.

I took French in the U.S. beginning in 7th grade (12 and 13 year olds.) A solid third of American French textbooks are the cultural sections which basically exist to coach you out of hating the French. Which is odd, because out of all the countries in the world, Americans and the French are some of the most pre-disposed to getting along.

I think it's because Americans have a much deeper ingrained sense of public propriety, even while being assholes, and the French are out and proud assholes.

American tourists come in extremes, either very culturally astute or really trashy, loud and ignorant. French tourists are far more despised on average (and that's saying something) and usually come off as rude and/or indifferent to their surroundings when traveling.

R103: French tourists (and there are many) are very well regarded in Spain, and I've never seen one be impolite.

Obviously the two countries share a large border, but, aside from English, young Spanish people are most interested in learning French, and young French people Spanish. In any case there's an affinity.

People in Scandinavia hardly learn French and half of Belgium speaks French as the second official language. Spanish is a Roman language too so it’s relatively easy to learn for the French and that’s the affinity. They are lazy. They don’t want to speak a germanic language like English.

French tourists are liked in Croatia as well. Somebody is talking out its ass.

Yikes

Every tourist is liked in Croatia R106 and Croatia needs them desperately.

I worked at tourism spot in the U.S. that got people from all over the globe. I'd rank French in the top half of tolerable. English and Eastern Canadian were godawful pricks like clockwork. Scottish and Mexican were delightful as a default.

Same, r109. I've workwd for several summers at language camps and the French students have been fine (and odorless). Russians were unfailingly polite, although direct. Brazilians were wonderful.

The most despised were the Italians, year after year, and our English coworkers, who started out nice but would inevitably devolve into opinionated assholes allergic to doing their share of the grunt work and incapable of taking direction from more experienced staff. It got to the point where they were automatically placed at the bottom of the list for positions.

R110 Haha I forgot Italians, they were also hard to deal with. They found flaws with almost everything and would demand very specific replacements. No salt on my food, I want this room, I want to pay this much for that, etc.

The French weren't nice, but were usually likeable.

Did any of you fuck these difficult French men?

To be fair, a lot of people are assholes online. If you really want to see out of control cuntery, go to a site called City Data. You can't ask the most innocuous questions without having a bunch of bitchy mouth breathers reply in the most unpleasant ways possible.

I'm an Australian and lived in Paris for 2 years, and while the French are very 'frank' I actually had no problems with them in this regard. Especially people in the half of Paris below the Seine (the Latin Quarter and Luxembourg gardens area) were lovely and helpful.

At one point I worked at a café and my manager told me to try 'not to get in people's way too much'. Perhaps this explains some of it? I think instead of providing people with everything they need, or going above and beyond to be servile to customers, there's more of an ingrained culture of staying out of their way and only being of service when needed.

People in the South of France are extremely charming and hospitable, like in most Mediterranean areas. Easygoing like the people in those Greek, Italian, Spanish and Lebanese beach towns.

I must be in the minority. I spent four days in Paris in March 2001, visiting my oldest friend and her husband. She went to work and he and I went to some shops. If anybody remembers Monsieur and Madame Thibaut from French class, you'll remember they didn't shop at the big grocery stores, but the local shops for their evening meal. All the shops we went to, my friend's husband went to do his thing whilst I looked at things. The shop keepers approached me, asking me if I needed help. When I told them I was just waiting for G., they became very friendly. They all told me I spoke French well and commented on my accent (I'd never been to France, so my French must've sounded like the Queen's English without any language drift.)

The point is, they were polite and friendly to me before they discovered I was there with a regular customer. And yes, I speak French, but nowhere near the fluency of others.

Although there for a short visit, the one difference in our cultures is that the French seemed to enjoy life. And it also seemed to me they worked to live, not vice versa.

It's important not to mix up 'France' and 'Paris'. Many capitals are hated by people in the rest of the country, but I think France is even more so in that regard.

As for difficult tourists, I understand the Chinese are impossible. It's in their culture to complain the second that anything is even slightly wrong, in the hope of screwing a refund or price reduction out of you, which they would regard as completely fair and a good day's business.

[quote] I'm an Australian and lived in Paris for 2 years At one point I worked at a café

Ignore: another illegal worker.

Why the people of Oz think they are welcome everywhere is still a mystery.

I wish I lived in the south of France. So sick of the backwater I'm stuck in.

[quote] particularly in Paris. Better food there than Italy but I found the Italians to be much more friendly.

Food in Paris is NOT better than in Italy, you tourist trap fly.

They have a shitty airport! Don't ever transit there if you can help it. Avoid !

Liza loves the french. We love liza so we should love the french. Yessh?

I found French people aloof and condescending but once they heard my American accent they were immediately nicer to me. Pretty much the opposite of the French hate Americans cliche. But in an anonymous forum I can imagine they get a little bitchy and demanding.

[quote]They have a shitty airport! Don't ever transit there if you can help it.

Paris has two airports (CDG and Orly) and France has 170. What are you even talking about?

R122 the French hate everyone

Parisian here (suburb), don't mistake Parisians and French, even the French hate Parisians. If you want to learn more about WTF is wrong with French people (but really Parisians) have a look at Paul Taylor's show #Franglais he is a British who has spend the last 10 years in Paris, he managed to make it as a stand up comedian. He is good, and right on the French.

for info: waiters in France have a decent salary and do not depend on tips for paying their bills. Their job is to get the food as quickly as possible on your table, not to befriend you.

ps : nobody in France is learning in History class that we won WW2 or even WW1, we were saved, thanks guys! (and thanks to the Marshal plan as well from saving us from starvation).

^ Wow. A humble French person. It's truly the end of days.

I'm French, and most of the Italians (not all) that I've encountered have been insufferable. The Greek have been worse, except for one guy who was modest, humble. Kept to himself. He was a university professor who was fluent in like 6 languages.

R114 Interesting experience working at the café. As a French person I'd say when service people go above and beyond, when nothing indicated that this is what we're looking for, it comes across as needy and looking for attention. As a customer, I find it distracting because I'm not going to the café to interact/pay attention to the server, but rather to spend time with my friends! An efficient server is always appreciated. Friendly, why not. But you have to gauge if the clients are going to "like" you, and honestly you never know. Getting out of people's way is sound advice.

R123 Paris even has a third, private airport, Le Bourget. You'll find it featured in Agatha Christie's Death in the Clouds (1935, back when flying really was a private affair), and of course that's where Nureyev famously defected in 1961.

[quote]Seriously WTF?? Are all french people like that?!!

Pretty much. But we like their wine, their cheese and their sex lives so they are forgiven a lot.

[quote]I'm French, and most of the Italians (not all) that I've encountered have been insufferable.

I'm really interested in details about this, r127. As I've said upthread, I moved from France to Italy and (to me) the Italians are nicer.

R131 the Italians are nicer to you, because you're not french. if you were , they would treat you badly, even the Italians can't stand the French (Parisians)...

I'm always amazed that the European countries claim to hate each other ans not get along. Anytime I've ever been involved in any anything international, they stick to each other like glue. I've only ever noticed the East/West split in real life.

And let's not forget that Miss Olivia de Havilland calls Paris her home now.

R133 because we know we are too small by ourself to matter internationaly, reason why we don't understand Brexit, UK will be in position of weakness by itself, it's madness.

R133 R135 is right. We’re also aware of the fact that it isn’t just nationality that defines a human being and we are grateful we can cooperate on many levels with our neighbouring countries. Stereotyping other Europeans is a guilty pleasure I suppose

And indeed the English are fucked

What are the Italians' main issues, true or perceived, with the French, r132? We know why the French don't like Americans.

R138 good questions, it's best to ask an Italian, I imagine the italians might have a bad experience with french tourists? Or a french guy stole their girlfriend? Go figures...

OP you need to confer with Wanda Sykes. She has much to say on the matter!

My son married a French woman. At first, I thought she was terribly abrasive but I've come to realize she is completely no bull-shit. If you want an honest answer to anything, ask her! She is from a city about 90 miles outside of Paris and attended The American School until 12th grade so she grew up speaking English and is comfortable with American culture. However, she doesn't have the greatest sense of humor and tends to be demanding.

some love for french canadians

Visited Paris for 2 weeks after the Brussels bombing 2015, with only knowing 3 phrases in French. Everyone was fine there, maybe encountered one waiter who rolled his eyes. But tourism was down, and we had a proprietor of a restaurant ask us why we were visiting Paris- weren't we afraid of bombings? We said, "Because it's Paris", and he smiled.

The rudest French person was a young waitress in London, at a tiny but excellent French restaurant. She told us to our faces that she hated American people because of their politics- we told her we voted for Obama, and she was slightly mollified. We also asked her why she's in London, and she said that she didn't want to raise her kids in France, but didn't elaborate.

R132 NOBODY likes the French. As r141 points out, they are abrasive and humourless. And for the land of every perfumery under the sun, they smell like smashed ass.

Vous êtes Américains sont si extra

R145 are we going to play the language game? A blow below the belt. No American is claiming they are “fantastic.” I do believe there are nice French people but generally as a tourist you get treated like shit because your French isn’t good enough. The contempt shows also online. Get off your fucking high horse.

I went to Paris for a week in the summer of 2017. I will never go back again.

CDG is just terrible. I mentioned above not to transit there if you can help it.

I usually transit in heathrow with only 1 hour or 1 and 30min in between my flights...my luggage always made it no problem, over 10 years of passing through there. Highly recommend LHR.

Unfortunately, I had to go through CDG onece and had 3 hours to spare until my next flight. However, my luggage never made it. So ineffective, slow and lazy! Just the workers in general I saw during my transit. Lazy fuckers.

Never go to Paris in the fall, there is usually some kind of transit strike.

CDG is just terrible. I mentioned above not to transit there if you can help it.

I usually transit in heathrow with only 1 hour or 1 and 30min in between my flights...my luggage always made it no problem, over 10 years of passing through there. Highly recommend LHR.

Unfortunately, I had to go through CDG onece and had 3 hours to spare until my next flight. However, my luggage never made it. So ineffective, slow and lazy! Just the workers in general I saw during my transit. Lazy fuckers.

Never go to Paris in the fall, there is usually some kind of transit strike.

*once, typo!

The last time I was there, tout Paris were asking about you, R147 Is everything okay?

[quote] I'm French, and most of the Italians (not all) that I've encountered have been insufferable. The Greek have been worse,

What the hell does Greece have to be arrogant about, the last time they were cool was.....not in this lifetime.

Isn’t Greece bankrupt? I went there in January. The people were nice.

R153, yes, very very bankrupt. Greece is beautiful but it hasn't been cool since the Byzantine empire.

OP, which French film site? I want to see it.

I've been to Europe but not France, except for the airport changing planes, so I cant comment except to say Air France had good food but the waitresses were cunty and I do mean cunty.

[quote]I'm French, and most of the Italians (not all) that I've encountered have been insufferable. The Greek have been worse,

I've asked a few Italians about this r139, and, although not a scientific poll, I gather it's due to the fact that the Italians and the Greeks are one of the few peoples who've long sussed out the French and don't tolerate any of their shit. They'll stand up to them, push back and point them to the nearest cliff to jump off from if they so wish.

The Italians appear to adore the Greeks, by the way.

R157, do the Italians love the Spanish too? They seem like they would be more similarish culturally speaking, than Greece and Italy.

"The Italians appear to adore the Greeks, by the way."

We always did.

r158 They actually do. I've heard nothing but positive stuff about Spain and the Spanish. Interestingly I was talking to my landlord about an entirely different matter and he was complaining about the "embarrassment" his nephew caused his parents by running off with their accountant to get married in Spain "because here in Italy, we don't have gay marriage". Apparently Spain is the default destination for gay Italians wanting to get married.

R160, that makes total sense. Spain is so much more progressive on gay issues than Italy.

R155 Les Gendarmes de Saint Tropez

Which site is that? Link, please.

There is no site r163. OP is a trou du cul.

Why someone wants to download obscure French films is beyond me

Thanks for the wildgoose chase, OP.

Cela n'est jamais arrivé

Au temps pour moi, my bad, I though you ask for a french film, not a website. You should be able to find links by putting "name of the movie" + streaming in google, usually works. Most of the movie online in french are american movies dubded in french.

If you have Sling TV, you can pay extra for their French channels, one of which is devoted to movies, all non dubbed. I also found a few non dubbed French movies on the free site, Kanopy- all you need is a library card. If you don't have one, you can apply for one online instantly:

R165 I love old french movies, I even intended to learn french in the near future but my bad experience in this french site put a kibosh on my plan.

Use the Duolingo app R170

R169 Thank you

It’s free and you can simply see if you enjoy learning the language

OP, Babbel is a better language app.

Babbel better than Duolingo? How?

Babbel will try to explain the grammatical rules e.g. le/la/les, ce/cet/cette, de/du/des, etc, and phrases that you will actually use, instead of weird, "The monkey is blue" type of sentences. I had no idea that you had to use the same masculine/feminine endings for adjectives with their nouns until I used Babbel.

Everything. French people are the cancer of Europe.

[quote]French people are the cancer of Europe.

R177: Allow me to introduce you to the crossroads of Central, Eastern, and Southeastern Europe, to the country of Romania and its people.

R178 Way better than France. My bf is from Belgium, and he says all of Europe hate France.

The Walloon Belgians and the French try to out-French one another in a high-stakes game of not quite courtesy, holding mirrors up to the other to reflect what they dislike in themselves, each finding the other uppity in his own way. In a pinch they get along just fine.

There was a moment when all of Europe hated France. Now all of Europe hates, and is laughing at, the UK.

[quote] Way better than France. My bf is from Belgium, and he says all of Europe hate France.

It's fascinating to me how most countries in Europe don't hate Germany. I mean, WW2 and all was way more recent than France's transgressions on the continent.

I don't get the hate for French Canadians. I visited Quebec and found the people so much more laidback than Anglo Canadians. For one thing, they don't have that defensive, deflective default mode where they list all the things messed up about America. But I do get the feeling the surrounding provinces probably detest them.

They invented the nectarine.

R182 post WW Germans, younger generations, have a totally different non arrogant attitude than the French. Also keep in mind that a big part of the German population didn’t support Hitler, like most now don’t support Trump in the US. Should we blame people for the mistakes of some of their ancestors? It seems to be a theme in 2020. In my opinion no.

R185, I agree with you, but why hate France when even England seems far worse today? I mean, Brexit and all...

r186, I find Brits to be more self-effacing, never met a French person who was.

R187, I think that's true of middle and lower class English people but not the upper class. The self effacing thing is an act with the upper class. It's about "etiquette" and not genuine at all.

R186 I don’t hate them but I dislike the attitude. I don’t doubt there are nice French folk out there. During my stays there I didn’t bump into them so far. I can’t say the Brits were as arrogant and unhelpful but yes of course Brexit is an absolutely stupid move and they will pay for it for several generations to come. So if anything I’d call the Brits who vote for Brexit ignorant, people who live in the past too.

I love France and I hate UK politics.

At least the French didn't vote for Trump.

No, but a fair number of them voted for Marine Le Pen.

No, but France has the Le Pen family who are even more extreme than Trump.

Are french men worse than french women?!!

R182 Complicated negative feelings about Germany do exist under the surface. For example I remember there was some row about EU contributions between Poland and Germany during which one Polish representative remarked that Poland would have a much bigger and more productive population now if only the Germans hadn't killed so many of them. Then after 2009-10 and the sovereign debt crisis many Greeks started to remark that they had never received any reparations from their occupation during WW2 and perhaps the Germans might consider accepting some debt forgiveness now. So yeah. Go East, you'll find it there.

[quote]I moved from France to Italy and (to me) the Italians are nicer.

The Italians are reputed to be wonderful in their own country. It's when they become tourists that they earn their reputation as international assholes.

R4, I never had a problem with the French, Swiss or British. Berlin, on the other hand, is filled with fat, unattractive, miserable, middle aged cunts.

"I visited Quebec and found the people so much more laidback than Anglo Canadians. For one thing, they don't have that defensive, deflective default mode where they list all the things messed up about America."

That's because they are too busy having that defensive, defective mode where they list all the things messed up about anglo Canada. It gets boring as you can imagine.

R198, does most of Anglo Canada hate Quebec?

r197, that goes a long way towards explaining the use of the term 'Frau' on this site

French people don't put kids in cage.

OP is never going to post the address to that French film site, is he?

She isn't.

R201 what cage??

r204, these cages: