Actress Naya Rivera Missing After Swimming In Lake Piru With 4-Year-Old Son

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The Glee cast is cursed!

Ventura County officials confirm missing woman is 33-year-old actress Naya Rivera. Her 4-year-old son was found alone in a boat on Lake Piru this afternoon.

Told you bitches I was hardcore.

Was Lea Michele spotted in the vicinity?

Damn. Sorry to hear this.

Damn, is she going to be the third death from the Glee cast?

That's pretty insane to think about.

WHAT THE FUCK!

Naya was found sleeping at home. The baby was trying to make a getaway.

[quote] Damn, is she going to be the third death from the Glee cast?

My career died.

At least this so young Naya person died on the Riviera.

Was she maybe wearing a mask and found it hard to breathe?

One of her last tweets.

Please say the child is alive.

She played Santana, who was easily the best character on the show. Got all the best lines.

This reminds me of the Maryland Kennedy woman, but that kid died, and I think they never found that ball again.

Who swims from a canoe in the middle of the lake?

I will adopt the child. (Not for my career!)

Naya singing "If I Die Young"

They found her 4-year-old son alone on the boat. Poor kid must be traumatized.

R13, that's telling; my best pal killed himself so I always think of that when I hear someone died.

I'd give anything to see him again

[quote] Who swims from a canoe in the middle of the lake?

Apparently Naya Rivera but not far.

She took an awful chance on the child's life. Perhaps she intended to drown him but couldn't bring herself to do it. She slipped into the water and expected the child to "meet her on the other side" not long after.

Planned murder-suicide but couldn't go through with the first part. Nobody swims from a canoe.

Her last tweet is very ominous, almost like a goodbye

One thread will do, thanks.

The child had a life vest on. She didn’t.

Maybe it capsized, she turned it right-side up and lifted the kid into it. Then it would have been impossible to climb in herself.

Or...maybe she dropped her phone or keys or something and thought she could catch them before they sank too far.

This is so sad. I can't imagine being in so much pain you actually put this sort of plan into action.

Who will be the next Glee death and why is the answer Blake Jenner?

[Quote] Or...maybe she dropped her phone or keys or something and thought she could catch them before they sank too far.

... Really?

A murder-suicide by Blake Jenner? That I can see.

Why are we assuming it was suicide?

Didn’t she have a volatile relationship with her husband? Maybe she pulled a Julia Roberts in Sleeping With the Enemy and secretly learned how to swim like an Olympian and is faking her own death to get away from him? Maybe she’s on her way to Iowa with Kevin Anderson?

If it were suicide, she would have dropped the kid off with a friend or relative first. She wouldn't do it right in front of him.

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I don't think the kid would have had the life jacket on if she was planning on killing herself and the child either. The kid is 4, she had to put it on them.

My guess is an accident (jumped in after phone/keys) rather than suicide but we’ll likely never know for sure. The 4yo is gonna be traumatized for life, poor kid.

Will Lea draft an RIP statement or just be silently glad that the news is on a different cast member?

Canoe? It's been reported that it was a pontoon boat.

All jokes aside, this is sad. Though no one has made the joke about how all the plastic surgery she's had should've kept her afloat, and that makes me sad for DL. My main concern is for Lea, for when she tries to make an IG tribute post and gets crucified AGAIN! I'm sure her PR person has told her to make no comment, but then she comes off like Susan Dey. It's a lose-lose.

That's why you wait 30 minutes after eating before swimming, another victim of cramps!

Do Lea Michele and her tootz have an alibi? Those stinkers are universally known to knock anyone off a boat.

Boy was found 3 hours after the rental, asleep in the boat

Her IG posts are on the level of an InstaHo. She still had employment on some dance show, but I guess thirst traps bolster "relevance"...

R19 What even more creepy than the song is that in the video the female band member is in a canoe in the river and it submerges and there’s a line “sink me in the river.”

I remember seeing her Christmas Card with Big Sean and thinking she'd gone off the deep end.

Ventura County Sheriff's deputies found the 4-year-old boy on the boat -- presumably rented by Naya -- shortly before 5 PM on Lake Piru, but Naya was not there. Law enforcement sources tell us her son, Josey Hollis Dorsey, told deptuies his mom had jumped in the water ... but didn't come back up.

Divers immediately started searching the lake, but so far there's no sign of the "Glee" star.

We're told Rivera's lifejacket was still in the boat and Josey was asleep when the boat was first found. Josey is okay, and is now with family members. Naya and the boy's father, Ryan Dorsey, divorced in 2018 and share custody of Josey.

5-6 hours and no sign of her? She's dead, gang.

Jesus Christ what was in the water on Glee

These things happen.

Lea Michele has released a tribute.

[quote] Jesus Christ what was in the water on Glee

Lead, bitches!

Damn. What kind of nutcase kills themselves in front of their pre-schooler?

Notice how the other girls had to wear a paler yellow than Lea.

Heather Morris will be devastated.

Thank goodness he didn’t jump in after her.

A word from Jackée. I had no idea Naya was on "The Royal Family."

Twitter is hysterical. Naturally.

Love that song, R19. Goodness this is terrible. If the boy saw her jump in the water she’s gone.

The Glee curse is real. There is no way around this fact.

Been there, done that.

Can’t these new “stars” find their own way to stay famous instead of doing what we legends did FIRST?

Hollywood, kids.

I'd like to hope it was an accident and she wouldn't deliberately do that in front of her child. That's so fucked. Every time I hear about someone killing themselves in a way that someone who loves them will find the body, it's just so cruel.

When's the Glee reunion?

It better be soon r64.

[Quote] I'd like to hope it was an accident and she wouldn't deliberately do that in front of her child.

She left her lifejacket behind.

Was she suicidal? Mental health problems? A bad swimmer?

I wouldn't call it a curse. GLEE didn't make Mark Salling a pedophile, or Blake Jenner a domestic abuser.

Many people don't use a life jacket, doesn't mean they are try to kill themself r66. Just saying.

This was one of her best performances and she never looked better.

Hi Ryan r68. Tough breaks huh.

Naya had a lot of plastic surgery. Looks Kardashian-esque. I don’t understand that as I’ve always found her so pretty!

R67, she’s had a lot of issues in the past, as far as I know.

[Quote] Many people don't use a life jacket, doesn't mean they are try to kill themself [R66]. Just saying.

The child had a lifejacket on. And Naya left hers on the boat, with the child. (Two lifejackts)

all so sad.

That mash up was one of the best pieces of music that came out of Glee r70.

Beautiful child. Hopefully the ex husband has some stability.

[Quote] And Naya left hers on the boat

How weird.

They’ve called off the search for this evening.

Agree r72, she was pretty before she went way over board on the plastic surgery. Sad to see someone that young do that to their face.

Be it lake or toilet, this swimsuit and water do NOT mix!

Her flat chest suited her physique and she absolutely did not need bigger lips.

He looked a happy baby.

Folks, don’t worry, I know exactly where she is. And it’s really not appropriate to conjecture about suicide. I mean come on.

She looked like the cartoon Pocahontas brought to life.

The glee curse strikes again! Omg! The cast is so tragic.

R41 I recognize that joke from The Mary Tyler Moore Show, starting at 2:15.

Gifted actress and performer, and the Santana character sure helped a lot of people. Sad former gleek right now.

First Lea’s career, now this.

Who would have guessed that flashforward about seven years and a third of these people would be dead.

I was just listening to her interviewed on her Glee co star Kevin Mchale’s podcast and I loved it. So sad.

Someone get the red sharpie from Revenge

R41 here...R86, how the hell did you remember that joke in the clip so fast?!? It's true, though.

Be thankful we're boring, DL.

I confused why some people think she would take her son and rent a boat to commit suicide. Ever hear of an accidental drowning? If she was overconfident as a swimmer, she would take the lifejacket off. Weird.

That's a huge lake for a solo mother and a very young child to go out alone. It's apparent she drowned and they will continue the search for her on Thursday. This is just tragic. I'm just glad her son was found safe.

Maybe she's been kidnapped and is being held captive in some Mexican shack? If so, she should turn up in a week or two.

R92 It’s right up there with the joke “what’s the only wood that doesn’t float....”

I'm not joking when I say if I were any of the living Glee stars I'd be shitting myself right now. They must feel like characters in a horror movie, sitting around, wondering which one of them is gonna die next.

What ever happened to the white guy with yellow skin from Glee?

[Quote] Ever hear of an accidental drowning? If she was overconfident as a swimmer, she would take the lifejacket off. Weird.

It's weird to rent a boat so you can swim when the only person along with you is a four year old child. Who's watching the child while she swims? He could hit his head while she's in the water and she wouldn't know until she returned to the boat. The woman was clearly not well. And I'd wager that she hadn't been for a long time.

Glug, glug, glug!

Weren’t there lake drownings in the last AHS?

Christ, the (current) surviving members of the Glee cast must feel like they're in Final Destination.

[Quote] What ever happened to the white guy with yellow skin from Glee?

He faded to white.

[Quote]The woman was clearly not well. And I'd wager that she hadn't been for a long time.

Come sit by me

Really sorry to read this.

Yeah, r100, no one is arguing that she made good decisions or that this turned out well. I'm just saying that an accident is much more likely than a suicide.

[Quote] I'm just saying that an accident is much more likely than a suicide.

I disagree. Every mother knows that you can't leave a child alone like that.

This is very sad. I can't bring myself to cunt over this.

Will the lake now become their new source?

I feel shitty for making a joke. It really is sad. Poor kid.

If it was a suicide, wouldn't they have found her body pretty easily?

Really loved her character on Glee. She made those horrific storylines believable.

Oh really R108

Who says she intended to leave the child alone? She could have been swimming with him. (still not a good idea with a 4yo)

[Quote] If it was a suicide, wouldn't they have found her body pretty easily?

Why? She probably swam away from the boat until she couldn't swim any longer. If she struggled with the "final action," tiring herself out would take the action out of her hands.

[Quote] She could have been swimming with him.

The child was in the boat. Are you suggesting she put the child back in the boat and decide to do another lap?

I hope this won't be the kid's first childhood memory.

[quote] What ever happened to the white guy with yellow skin from Glee?

[quote] He faded to white.

Who?

[Quote] Who?

Chris Colfer.

Damn, Wikipedia is quick.

An exchange from a 2015 appearance on The View. There was speculation that Naya came out by making the comment. She was newly married at the time.

Rosie: New research found that women who are bisexual are more likely to suffer from mental health problems than lesbians.

Naya: Rosie, no wonder I’m crazy. This just solves it all.

Too early to jump to conclusions. She may well have fallen overboard for a medical reason, and her 4 year old interpreted this as jumping.

No anchor was set, as the boat drifted.

So sorry for all.

Maybe she was in a horrible emotional state. Could’ve been fighting with someone (text or call) and was upset, dropped the phone in the water and jumped in to get it? And somehow drowned. Still more likely a suicide.

She clearly didn't kill herself. What the fuck is wrong with you delusional queens?

She could have been jumping out of the boat first before getting her son into the water, she could have been retrieving something.

[Quote] She clearly didn't kill herself.

?

Why does suicide get your back up?

Oh, yes. She could've dropped the kid off with family or his father, but it's much more likely that she took him to a lake, rented a boat, went to the middle of the lake and killed herself in front of her 4 year old. That is definitely much more likely than slipping, falling and hitting your head. Bunch of regular Hercule Poirots up in this joint.

Probably misjudged the water's depth and hit her head.

You don't need to protect Naya Rivera from speculation. You can't.

It sounds like she was trying to grab something she dropped, since the boat wasn't stopped or anchored and her son had a vest on.

If she had killed herself there would have been clear signs, and if there were clear signs she wouldn't be labeled as "missing" right now. Evidence would be published.

She loved that kid. No way would she jump to kill herself and leave the kid alone on a boat in the middle of a lake.

The suicide troll is trying her best, tho.

The didn't anchor the boat. She took off her life jacket. But she was "only" going for a swim? Or She dropped her phone and after taking off her life jacket, she tried to retrieve it?

*She didn't anchor the boat

Perhaps trying to get the perfect Instagram shot with her kid?

[Quote] She loved that kid. No way would she jump to kill herself and leave the kid alone on a boat in the middle of a lake.

You're probably thinking from the point of view of someone who is mentally well.

What are the chances of her being found alive???

It could be an accident. It could be suicide. Until there is strong evidence one way or the other...shrug.

“Praying”

If she did kill herself then she's the best secret keeper in history. Have none of you idiots ever taken a psychology class before? There's always signs when someone is suicidal, and if there aren't then there are signs to be found after they kill themselves.

If she killed herself then some form of evidence that she was planning to or considering it would have been found by now.

She may have faked her death for the insurance money. People should keep eye out for her living the high life in Tijuana.

They’ve called off the search until tomorrow, so she won’t be found alive.

R137 unless she's a mermaid...pretty unlikely.

If the kid was Stewie, he would have pushed her.

Who would have thought that the Glee reboot would also be a Final Destination sequel?

The next to go could be the gay guy, the black girl, the Asian or the other Asian.

R141, that'd be one helluva donkey show, that's for sure.

R140 people wouldn't be giving that information out after a few hours. Hell, when Cameron Boyce died in his sleep, it wasn't confirmed it was a seizure for several days. DL said he HAD to have OD'd on drugs.

r147 or Ryan Murphy

[Quote] Have none of you idiots ever taken a psychology class before?

You sound triggered. Did you just find this site while searching for Naya Rivera news?

[Quote] no matter the year, circumstance, or strifes everyday you're alive is a blessing. make the most of today and every day you are given. tomorrow is not promised

She tweeted the above a few days ago...

[Quote] What are the chances of her being found alive???

About as likely as a Broadway revival of A RAISIN IN THE SUN with Lea Michele.

At least she didn't die in a fiery helicopter crash. I envy the bitch.

From Heather Morris

[quote]What are the chances of her being found alive???

Not likely. If she had of swam to shore and passed out or something they would have found her a long time ago.

My personal feeling is, she dove in after something (hence leaving behind the life jacket) since she thought she'd quickly be able to get back in and couldn't get back into the boat. I wouldn't be surprised if she had random medical problem and that was it.

I was actually just giving her props for not saying anything when Lea was getting roasted a few weeks ago as if she'd moved on from all of it and was just off living her life.

[Quote] heather morris just posted about naya, this just makes it more real.

I hate fangurls.

Nobody goes for a swim from an unanchored boat.

[Quote] she thought she'd quickly be able to get back in and couldn't get back into the boat.

The boat was not anchored.

[Quote] I was actually just giving her props for not saying anything when Lea was getting roasted a few weeks ago as if she'd moved on from all of it and was just off living her life.

She unfollowed Lea.

It’s sad when something like this happens to an innocent person instead of someone like Lea Michele or Alyssa Milano.

She was arrested for domestic abuse, was she not?

R152, are you also R13?

A mother's sacrifice is a beautiful thing.

[Quote] [R152], are you also [R13]?

No, babe.

From an old article about drownings there:

[quote]Sheriff’s spokesman Eric Nishimoto said currents on the lake were strong Tuesday. And after a 1997 drowning, park officials speculated that wind gusts and deep columns of chilly water on the lake, which is up to 160 feet deep depending on the time of year, can overtake swimmers quickly. “I know it can get rough out there,” Nishimoto said.

[quote]West cautioned that the lake’s swimming beach is clearly marked and other parts of the lake are posted off-limits to swimming for grim reasons.

[quote]“The only thing I can emphasize is that if swimmers are around water, they need to wear a personal flotation device whether they know how to swim or not,” he said. “That will save their lives.”

Her son is adorable. This poor kid.

Although most people say the same of their exes, FWIW Big Sean said she was crazy.

Unless she has gills, nothing they can do at midnight honey

This is the moment everyone knew she was a star. I hope she's ok.

[Quote] the lake is in a cool area, not too far from LA, not too crowded, lots of wildlife and a pretty drive once you get off of the freeway. I can see why she would take her child there, if she really wanted a quiet time away. Every other nicer spot is usually packed and that gets old.

[Quote] the weird thing is that they swam in the lake as it’s very stagnant water. I’d never get in it. No one goes there to swim. They fish, they bbq, they may camp out but no one goes there to swim.

[Quote] I’ve been to that exact same spot In the picture but the lake is a decent size and most likely They were in the open part. However it’s not THAT big and I’m sure they circled it at least a couple of times. Not sure why they couldn’t find her but as I said the water is extremely stagnant/brackish. Also the woods are kinda thick up there in some spots so she could easily wandered into them and could have been kidnapped or is hiding out....

[Quote] All in all it is a strange place to go with your 4 year old but at the same time LA crowds are awful and especially now, it could have been a nice l, super quiet day but getting in that water doesn’t make too much sense.

Countdown to the “if it were a white woman they’d still be searching” tweets

[quote] She was arrested for domestic abuse, was she not?

Yes. Arrested for a situation involving an attack on her husband, Ryan Dorsey.

Honestly, have always been a bit circumspect regarding her.

Kevin McHale in a wheelchair always bothered the hell out out of me, R170. I hope she’s okay too.

[Quote] Kevin McHale in a wheelchair always bothered the hell out out of me

What about Raymond Burr?

R170 There’s a water reference in that song too, so many different ones surround her.

Here you go, R172:

[quote]The fact that Naya Rivera is MISSING AND PRESUMED DEAD, AND THEY SUSPENDED THE SEARCH UNTIL THE MORNING?? HELLO? SHES A HUMAN AND A MOTHER. GET YOUR ASSES OUT THERE AND FIND HER. If it was a white woman, they’d be in scuba gear. #nayarivera

Only Kevin R175.

R172 too late

So a Hollywood actress is going for a swim in unpleasant, “brackish” waters from an unanchored boat? With her 4 year old aboard.

This was an accident.

Twitter is attacking everyone who even implies Naya is dead. They're "manifesting" and basically engaging in collective denial until they see a corpse. It's bizzare.

It seems to be mostly teens tweeting. But even as a teen I knew you can't dive at night.

Glee is fucking cursed.

R179 I thought Twitter didn't count hispanic people as "people of color". It seems like the only people that count as POC to them are dark skinned black people, anything other than that is white.

Do those people on Twitter really think Rivera is treading water, waiting to be picked up?

They found the child circa 5pm LA time. That's about 8 hours ago.

They're teens R185. Kid was found around 5pm. Sunset was at 8:08. That's 3 fucking hours of daylight. If she were on the shore somewhere, they'd find her.

We don’t know for sure how long she can hold her breath.

I once read that when women kill their own babies/children, it's often in a water-related method because psychologically, it's like they're trying to return the baby to the womb.

Think Susan Smith, Andrea Yates, Heidi Anfinson, those two crazy dykes who drove their van with their kids off a cliff into the ocean, etc. Not only that but throughout Chinese history, drowning was the traditional method of killing unwanted baby girls.

Dammit, she was my favorite from Glee. She made that show watchable! Still hoping for a miracle.

She looked absolutely gorgeous in her "pop version" performance of "Don't Rain on My Parade". I loved her look in another performance too, but the irony would've been in bad taste to post.

Seriously, just go on Twitter and look up "Naya". It's shit like "Naya Rivera Will Be Found Safe And Sound" typed over and over again in lines like "all work and no play" in The Shining. It's creepy.

[quote] She unfollowed Lea.

WTF? Why did she follow Lea in the first place? There was some serious bad blood between them on the Glee set. I can't see them getting past that. Especially with Lea still being a mean girl behind the scenes.

I think it was a photo op gone wrong. Her smartphone slipped into the water, she jumped after it and a current or some sea weed kept her underwater, and she drowned. Though the lake is quite deep so sea weed may not have been the cause depending where the boat was when the incident happened.

Somewhere right now:

I don't see what's wrong with getting your hopes up until there's official confirmation. I mean if she's indeed dead youll be crushed either way (assuming she's dead right away or after receiving confirmation).

R193 Part of me really does wonder if the Glee cast members are feeling that right now or if they're actually empathetic. It's hard to tell where the sociopathy gets overridden by the humanity with that cast.

She could’ve been abducted.

R194 Because there's no point in false hope or delaying the inevitable.

Selena Gomez can play her in the Lifetime movie Trouble On the Water: The Naya Rivera Story.

R196 From a boat on the middle of a lake? Who the fuck could have abducted her, aliens?

R184, you are correct. Naya Rivera is very white. On Twitter.

[Quote] I can't see them getting past that.

There was a GLEE reunion in the offing.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

*GLEE reboot

[Quote] Visualize your highest self. Start showing up as her.

Didn't she grab some random dude to be her groom after the first one bailed on her and the wedding was supposed to happen in a week or so? The one, she got under the knife for, really did a number on her.

[Quote] Josey and I were just reading the book of genesis before bed and we felt the earth shake. You better know GOD is REAL y'all. And he's doing a mighty work

R202, that just plays a video embedded in the article. Why does that always happen.

[Quote] The one, she got under the knife for, really did a number on her.

Her previous was a pedophile so Big Sean must have been a choirboy in comparison.

She sounds nuts and not very smart @ R206.

With her grandmother.

She had mental problems but so does every cast member of that god forsaken show. Despite her crazy I doubt this was a suicide. She was not the suicide brand of crazy.

[Quote] In times like these and always we must stand up and be counted. Stand up against injustice. Prejudice. Pure evil. These are photos of my grandma protesting for civil rights in the 60s. She was an advocate for civil, women's, and human rights. She is my hero.

[Quote] This morning I meditated on her, On what we are all seeing play out in front of us today. It has been playing out for decades. We have been fighting this same fight for centuries. I am proud to come from a lineage of people who stand up for what is right.

[Quote] I am proud of every peaceful protestor, every person who is saying NO. I know she is looking down on me on all of us and encouraging everyone to keep up the GOOD fight.

Well this year just keeps getting worse and worse.

Next!

I still can’t believe the gorgeous Cory Monteith is gone.

None of those lakes up by the Grapevine -- Piru, Castaic, Pyramid -- are for swimming. Big, dark, and mostly for boating. Theory that she jumped in to retrieve a phone are probably right. Probably got tangled in vines or debris.

Lea Michele...

According to TMZ her purse was still in her car. If her phone was still in the car or on the boat...I guess we'll see

A lot of people also overestimate their swimming abilities because they think they're good swimmers in a pool. Totally different situation out there in open, choppy water.

I kinda doubted the phone theory, but the fact that the life vest was in the boat kinda goes along with that scenario. She couldn’t get very deep while wearing it.

Her body is on the lake bed. Corpses sink to the bottom and rise to the surface a few days later.

Lake Piru is ugly as fuck.

Why would anyone even visit that crap lake?

R214 The fat bitch or Lea is gonna be next.

This will be as tragic as Charles Levin's (Coco from Golden Girls) disappearance and death. But in this case the companion was found alive.

I got an erection reading about this. Just jerked off to a Dick Wadd flick. Does that make me a bad person?

Lea could pull a Jane Seymour and die in childbirth. Then she'd steal Naya's press and be rehabilitated as a selfless mother!

R221, it's a man-made dam reservoir. There also aren't many large lakes in southern California, so it's an attraction for people who want to boat.

Dr. Quinn died in childbirth?!?!??!

Lea Michele is trending on Twitter as people are responding to others who are dragging her.

Apparently folks on twitter saying they are going out to look for her, yikes.

Looking for her? Are they insane? They get themselves hurt or even killed and the rescue team has to deal with them instead of focussing finding Naya.

R229, yeah, good idea in the middle of darkness past 1:00 a.m. in a 160-foot deep lake..

Is it possible that for whatever reason she got out of the boat, and then couldn’t get back in because the sides were too high? And it’s not as if a four year-old would have the strength to pull her back up.

What a sad, strange turn of events.

R229 people on Twitter are very dumb

Would that be a first where Twitter users actually take action if they go out and look for her?

Lake looks pretty.

From what I've seen tweet wise, a missing person was reported around 3pm and the kid was asleep when they found him. She's LONG dead. It'll be interesting to see what time she rented.

R230, calm yourself. It’s a man-made lake, not a whirlpool.

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All the reports so far have said that her son saw her jump into the water, and didn’t come back up. Nothing about her trying to get back into the boat, struggling or crying out for help. A 4-year-old would be able to report if she had.

I’m with those who think she jumped in to retrieve something and hit her head or got tangled in something.

Whether they found her phone in the boat could be a clue. If it isn’t found, she may Gabe accidentally dropped it and went in after it. I grew up swimming on the Long Island sound and lakes scare me. People drown in lakes without an undertow or rip currents. A friend of mine drowned in a lake and he could swim like a fish. Lakes freak me out.

If the lake is 160 feet deep with brackish water, of course the investigators should wait a day to see if she floats to the surface before sending a team of divers into the murk. Who knows what else is lurking in the depths.

Bye, y’all. I’m off to my nightmare-filled sleep.

Throwing out some love to you, Naya Rivera, wherever you are.

MARY!! R240

[quote] Who knows what else is lurking in the depths.

Hey, I have a name, you know!

And Natalie, too.

Dumbest tweet winner:

“so they look for Madeline McCann for 15 years but they can’t look for Naya Rivera coz it’s dark?”

#MeToo

[quote]s. A friend of mine drowned in a lake and he could swim like a fish.

Angelenos are used to ocean water and chlorinated pools - they’re often not prepared for less buoyant lake water, which is harder to float in.

Also, those who are skeptical about her diving after her phone, you would not believe the stupid things people do when they drop them. (Source: friend who is an EMT). One lady got stuck in storm drain trying to retrieve hers. It’s as if lose their damn minds.

Tell Sue Simmons I loved her.

While I don't belong to the ass cancer that is Twitter, I did notice that only Harry Shum, Jr., seems to have tweeted anything about this - at least among living, earlier cast members.

Also sad.

There were more upthread R248. See R146 and R155.

And just where the hell were you for me, Molly Brown?

At least she lived to see Lea's career torn to shreds

Jesus she was beautiful, and had talent and charisma in spades. This really bums me out.

#MeToo

Borderline.

#MeToo

Some of you bringing up her domestic abuse case, what is the point? She deserves death for assaulting someone? Yet you’re the same person quick to defend Blake Jenner.

Wonder why.

Cory Montieth, Naya, who is the other one you’re talking about?

R257 The pedo who killed himself

#WhosNext

Fans on twitter are losing their shit and angry that people are making jokes or don't care enough 'bout the TRAGEDY of it.

I'm waiting for someone to tweet:

"I was an extra on Glee. She was horrible to me. Glad she's dead" and make their heads explode!!

No rumors of her being mean to extras exist. Most say nice things about most of the cast. Everyone says bad things about just one person.

Those of you saying Lea is next are morons. The curse will take down everyone else but she will he left alone. People like her are the ones who always survive while the rest die off

Lake Piru?

Never heard of it.

R263 exactly why she went there. It’s empty

Naya was professional and kind to extras on set, she seemed grateful and uncomplicated.

Will Lea comment in any way? She was horrible to Naya.

The question now seems to be who will sing at the funeral. If the cast sings, will Lea sing?

R265 yes. And then Gleeks will call her out like she was called out about her racism

I want to watch the Lifetime movie about the Glee curse already.

Sorry — hope they find Ms Rivera alive and well I mean.

R268 lifetime movies all suck

Apparently not as much as being a past cast member of Glee, R269.

This is some Final Destination-level shit, how do the remaining cast members protect themselves?? I mean, don’t do heroin, or be a sex offender who can’t do the prison time so you have to kill yourself, or (developing story) jump in a lake when you don’t need to, perhaps.

Mark Salling did not kill himself. He was murdered.

And I feel they found her body but won’t make it public right away until after they tell the family etc.

R271 nice conspiracy theories. Salling killed himself, he wasn’t well-connected enough to have dirt on anyone else and not worth murdering.

Believe it or not but it’s possible to tell people their family member has been found dead even if it’s late at night, and if she was already found dead then fact is someone would have sold that to TMZ already.

R262 wise words from the fat troll a..

R272 they also are GIVING THEM TIME before announcing it.

Mark wasn’t well connected? It’s a known fact he was getting the content from Hollywood Elites. He was going to snitch.

Does Candy Spelling have a home in Lake Piru?

R272 fyi, R271 Is the the tik tok troll, white boy stalker and sex pest a. She’s dumb.

Murphy's Satanic sacrifices for success?

R277 if someone from glee has to bite the dust next I hope it’s Murphy.

her ex has a hot ass, but she couldn't live forever

I’m jerking off thinking about her death as we speak. I’m on load number 2.

I hope just the orginal Glee cast is cursed. Dear God, take me but leave Darren Criss alone!

We will never know the truth....

R281 Get a hold of yourself fatMary. You will find another mediocre actor with a nice booty to tide you over.

Why would she jump in the water and leave her kid on the boat?

Holy shit I think I can bust load number 3. I’m fantasizing about Mark Salling getting fucked and turned out queer by cholos and black boys in prison.

R275, Candy strikes again! Who will be her 3rd victim in as many weeks?

Courtney Love is scanning Google Earth images of Lake Piru right now.

FFS, get a grip. It's hot in LA,and beaches are crowded despite COVID restrictions. So she takes the kid to a close but way less crowded lake for a boat ride. Just looking at her feeds it's clear she loved that boy. The suicide speculation is really fucked up. Nobody is going to intentionally leave their adored 4 year old floating in a pontoon. Accident or miscalculation, and really tragic. I've got a 5 year old nephew and can't begin to imagine the trauma.

Wow! Search will resume again at dawn.

Lea better not post ANYTHING about this. She's had years to fix things with Naya, and if she's actually dead, her condolences will be total and utter bullshit.

Busted my third wad!

The only choice Lea has at this point is to make no public statement (because Crucifixion 2.0), and then name the baby Naya regardless of whether it's a boy or a girl. Naya Corey has a nice ring to it.

R284, Who does she think she is, a Kennedy?

[quote]The Glee cast is cursed!

Fuck. All right, I'm signing up for Jenny Craig.

Tomorrow.

faking her death

[quote]The Glee cast is cursed!

Seems more like the Glee cast is being reunited.

looking at pictures with her son, she seems a loving and devoted mother to him. the kid seems always happy. good thing he’s still too young to know what’s going on and to remember all of this.

Bingo! Caught red handed, Naya is/ was a PsyOps by TPTB. They left their calling card (think of a mob hit where they leave a canary in the victim's mouth to let everyone know he was a snitch). Look at the police car numbers at the scene in OP's picture. The car numbers are: 171, 227 & 223, which numerically add up to "33" (1+7+1+2+2x7+2+2x3=33). Grab a calculator and count it for yourself.

Lea Michele, who is 33, just took a scripted ritual hit to her career. Naya "drowns" at age 33. This is another elaborate chess game (think of the movie "Trading Places" with Eddie Murphy) by the people who run this planet, ahead of some major announcement. None of what is going on in the world now is happening organically. Who else here sees what's going on?

So sad. Why does everybody have to vacation near a body of water? I've never understood it.

I hope it was an accident. She was a striking young woman before she started with the cosmetic work. I always thought she was sort of a classic Hollywood tragedy.... made it, but not by much, then it went away with a lot of years ahead of her. It's quite sad, whatever happened. Doubly so if she took her own life. These are hard and fucked up times.

R297 4 is old enough to remember especially something this traumatic.

[quote]So sad. Why does everybody have to vacation near a body of water? I've never understood it.

It's the law, R299, since before there was WiFi.

My first memory is from around age 4. That poor, poor kid.

The sad thing is it isn't that hard to keep working... you just can't be picky about it... it's always surprising to me how many people are still doing something... voice overs, Branson, whatever... it won't be a network series or a major film set but there's work if you must have that kind of work. Somebody should create the Norma Desmond Center for Career Counselling to guide these damaged souls.

According to the lake’s wiki page, a lot of people have drowned in it. It’s waters must be deceptive, because it looks good pretty stagnant to me.

My earliest memory is around four as well... but a fragment... he'll probably remember it with some detachment... not able to process it yet. He'll need a very caring, secure environment.

R303 Yep the kid is almost 5 , he will remember seeing his mother drown for the rest of his life.

She made the front page of The Times in London, which I wouldn't have expected tbh. Still, it is summer so it's quieter. That must be it.

What the hell is even going on with R298?

I spent a lot of summers on a pontoon that neighbors owned on a nearby lake, and I was probably about the same age as Naya's boy the first time I went out. It's a really nice way to spend time on the water, very calm, and distanced from others also out on the lake. I don't see anything wrong with her taking her son out there and don't quite understand why people are blaming her for "being careless" or "not social distancing."

Reading through the coverage (yeah, I know), apparently she was a very strong swimmer. Easy to miscalculate currents in an unfamiliar body of water.

[quote]don't quite understand why people are blaming her for "being careless" or "not social distancing."

Becase - and this may be a lesson in life for you- most people talk before they think and they don't think much because they're so stupid.

My first thought was “murder-suicide”. So it’s a relief that the little boy is alive. My heart goes out to him.

While not common, it does happen that women kill their children and themselves. Assia Wevill is a quite horrific example, there are plenty of recent examples.

This woman was obviously troubled. I remember reading things about her on Dlisted and feeling very sorry for her. She was a hot mess. Hopefully she’s at peace, and I hope someone who’s mentally healthy will raise that poor child. Her choices in men weren’t terrific.

And naturally I would put a typo in that post.

My heart breaks for the little boy.

A pontoon boat is basically just a raft with seats and (sometimes) an engine. There’s nothing particularly risky or strange about swimming off one. It’s entirely possible she just wanted to take a dip and a freak accident happened; the murder/suicide speculation is a little “MARY!”

R214 so the grim reaper seems to skip a person and then takes the next one out . Chris Colfer should be worried .

r316 I highly doubt she would go out in the water just to swim if she was the only adult there with her small child. Even the most outdoorsy moms would not do it unless there was someone on the boat with their kid.

Few people get my Natalie Wood references anymore so I guess I can replace most of the punch lines with Naya Riveria.

R295 wins a year's worth of WWs

This shook me. I hope it's just a accident. Or underwater current or something. Or a miracle and she's found! It's haunting in general but imagining her kid alone.....

Her purse was found in her car. What woman goes anywhere without her purse?

This sounds like a planned event to me. Very sad.

R322 who takes their purse with them on a boat when they plan to go for a swim?

Her performance Valerie is also my favorite

Even the hot wrestler who drowned on accident handed his son over to a lifeguard before he was swept out to sea. She clearly was not in the right state of mind leaving her son the boat alone.

R322, the article I read said her wallet/ID were in the boat. I'd wait for a full police report before clutching those pearls.

R322 It's not just the purse. It's the fact that she would go out on a boat alone with just her son, the fact that he had life vest and she did not, the fact that she had only hours earlier left a very prescient social media message...

Connecting the dots.

Will anyone from Glee ever reach the age of 40??? Apart from Jane Lynch and Matthew Morrison, of course.

If she could see the kid the whole time and was planning to stay close to the boat, she may not have thought it a big deal to leave him alone on the boat for a few minutes.

[quote]the murder/suicide speculation is a little “MARY!”

My cousin's wife drowned their two kids and herself when I was young. Maybe that's why I don't see it being outlandish since it really does happen.

If she really was a strong swimmer the chances of her disappearance being deliberate get higher, either by herself or someone else. It's a real possibility she was attacked by someone who killed her, or hopefully only abducted her. That said since she's been apparently having mental issues suicide is not out of the question at all.

So many questions. Why oh why would she take her kid there if she was planning to kill herself? Maybe it was a freak accident.

I don’t know if this was intentional or not but a responsible mother or adult for that matter would not go out alone on a boat with a young child.

Kids that age require a lot of supervision and there is no way you can enjoy a swim knowing that you need to keep an eye on the kid to prevent an accident.

Yeah telling the story to my mom and sister (who is also a mom herself) and they both immediately go “where was the second adult? Youd never in a million years go out on a boat with a 4 year old alone.”

I have no idea who put piranhas in that lake!

Maybe the kid accidently threw a toy in the water and she was trying to get it back.....and drowned.

If she was still alive and they searched the area around the boat for several hours, I guess they would have found her already.

It was a setup for a pic. So many people die these days because they want to capture the moment for social media.

Is there any chance she was dyslexic?

Oh come on, people. It was a huge pontoon boat. Totally safe for an adult and child. This "a woman must be crazy to take her kid out on a boat" nonsense is very 19th century. Hollywood neuroticism doesn't = deranged killer. Per Wikipedia there have been numerous sudden/accidental drownings on that lake due to riptide-type currants. So maybe start with the most plausible explanation...

Lots of people have drowned in Lake Piru. Though really you could write the same of any lake, drowning in a lake is not an uncommon thing.

Ipod - Drowning, Backstreet Boys

Wanna bet, R24?

Sara Bareillles - Head Under Water

They have started back the search, this time with dive teams.

People attacking them in the comments for stopping overnight of course. People she was in the middle of open water, unless Naya can breathe under water this is just a mission to find her body.

I bet she slipped, hit her head on her way overboard, and drowned. Probably happened so fast the kid didn't even see or hear much of anything. Very sad.

Who knew that out of all the cast members, Darren Criss would go on to have the most successful post Glee career.

that's what I was thinking r337. It is a pontoon boat. She may not have been planning to let the boy in the water and if she went after something, she might have thought the pontoon boat would go far. I know it could, but a regular boat would have drifted away faster. She probably thought the pontoon boat would have been safer since it was just the two of them.

I'm not surprised that Darren Criss has done better than most of them r344, I'm *shocked* that Darren Criss has an emmy. If you told me he would be an emmy award winning actor within 5 years of Glee ending I never would have believed it.

R343, I hate when that happens.

I read they were both swimming, her kid made it back to the boat but she didn’t. He said she never came back up.

Sad.especially with a baby.

R346: What’s even more puzzling is that he has an Emmy, Golden Globe, and a Screen friggin Actors Guild award.

Was there a soccer ball involved?

Has anyone suggested sea monsters, yet?

r337 the boat might have been safe, but we are talking about if she actually got in the water. And most parents do not want to be that isolated, alone in the middle of a lake with their small child, in case of an emergency. Without a cellphone on top of it. It just doesn't happen.

Im thinking of my own mom in the 80s, she'd have to be dragged at gunpoint to get on a boat with me alone in the middle of a lake! And get her hair wet? Bitch please.

R350 He had a role of a gay, POC drug addicted, violent serial murdering hooker. He would have had to absolutely tank not to get some type of recognition.

Is she in debt? she's faking her death...unless her body turns up.

She can't swim? she went in there without life jacket?!

Her Wikipedia page, which I can’t link for some reason, has her presumed dead.

She's had legal problems with her ex and she was arrested for domestic battery against him a couple of years ago. The woman seems to be very troubled. I think she made sure her son was safe in the bota with his life jacket on, then swam off to her death, knowing someone would come and look for the boat eventually.

R355 she just wanted an unsolved mysteries episode to be about her.

If this was intentional it was planned on being a murder-suicide. The only reason you would involve the kid is because you were going to take him with you.

If you wanted to kill yourself and "make her son was safe", there are million ways to do that don't involve leaving him alone in a boat on open water.

Lets cast the Lifetime movie

Selena Gomez as Naya

Froy as Darren Criss

R359 She could have been planning a murder-suicide, then had a change of heart about taking her son's life.

R360 I'll play Naya. We were the best of friends, and I can do justice to the role.

This is so sad. And right after the Lea Michele cancel party. That is bizarre timing.

RIP Naya. Damn, Glee is a fucking mess of a curse. My thoughts are with the rest of the Glee cast especially Amber, Kevin, Colfer, Diana. I really hope they don’t succumb to the curse as well.

[quote]This "a woman must be crazy to take her kid out on a boat" nonsense is very 19th century.

Datalounge is packed full of people desperate to make every story the most scandalous story ever, and they will only believe what they want to believe. Nothing else.

If a guy went out fishing alone with his kid, no one would have said jack shit about it.

And I can play Darren as only I can do justice to the role.

[quote]If a guy went out fishing alone with his kid, no one would have said jack shit about it.

Yeah until he decided to "go for a dip" and went mysteriously went missing!

R364 Absolutely untrue. I'm sure you love Naya, but she was a bit fucked up, so it's not a huge leap of faith to speculate she offed herself.

It was most likely an accident. Suicide doesn’t come to my mind at all. These types of accidents happen more often than these types of suicides

The wake of another boat could have caused her to fall overboard.

Oh, no. This is so sad. :(

Yeah it doesn’t seem like a suicide to me either. Seems like something happened and she struggled to get back to/on the boat.

Speaking as the father of young kids, it doesn't strike me as outlandish to take them for a boat ride by myself. But we would all be wearing lifejackets and I would never ever separate myself from them. If a phone is dropped in the water, too bad. I think this was an example of poor judgment with tragic consequences, not nefarious intent.

Mark was 35, Naya was 33, Corey was 31.

In case you were wondering.

Has anyone made a comment about the Glee curse yet?!?!?!?!!!?!

I know on TikTok people are already coming up with conspiracy theories about why she is the 3rd to go.

She also dated both Cory and Mark.

I just came here to mention the Glee curse!

Naya keyed Mark Salling's car when she found out he was sleeping with other women.

Of course at the time she never could have known that women weren't even his main interest.

Damn this is sad. She was one of my favorite Glee cast members. I always thought she was beautiful and that she had a decent voice.

Her death makes her rendition of "If I Die Young" even more sad.

Im sorry, R252, but that is the very definition of anemic. There were far better Naya performances on Glee.

R337

So being responsible parent is now considered 19th century?

It’s obvious you have no idea what you are talking about. Your average mentally competent mother would not consider this safe to do alone with a year old in tow.

The only reason I am giving it a pass for now is social distancing. We have few details to go on like what she was wearing, what personal items were found on the boat and water temperature in the lake.

As a lesbian, I had a huge crush on her with her lesbian storyline on Glee. She was beautiful and talented. Seemed to be well liked by the cast (except maybe LM). Wish she had been more successful after glee despite her personal issues. This is sad.

[quote]The wake of another boat could have caused her to fall overboard.

Leading to the higher likelihood someone might have seen her fall overboard, Sherlock.

[quote]except maybe LM

That's an understatement. Lea Michele refused talk to Naya during the entire last season. Watch the show, their characters never even speak to each other because what Lea wants, Lea gets.

They were beefing for a while on Glee but season 5 is when things got ugly and they would get into huge arguments. Ryan always sided with Lea which is why Naya eventually left the show

Im sorry, R252, but that is the very definition of anemic. There are far better Naya performances out there.

So how was it determined that she went missing? Did the boat rental people say “hmmm, all of our rental boats have been returned except one”? Or did someone else on the lake see a lone child on a boat and call it in? Was she due to turn her kid over for visitation and failed to?

R383 I think LM grew jealous and resentful of Nayas rising success after her lesbian storyline and gaining popularity. I think they were friendly before the whole big Sean thing. I do remember when they were both at the premiere of American Horror Story and Naya tweeted a picture of her and LM holding hands (depicting how scared they were of the show).

R373 She's 33.

this is how you're supposed to fake your death, near body of water...no body will be found.

R386 Apparently, the boat rental company went looking for her when the boat wasn't returned.

R386 They went to go find the boat after it wasn’t returned.

I'll just file this under "who cares?!"

Was, R398. Was.

R383

Lea was disgusting and clearly jealous of all of the women. She is the worst type of woman.

The people went looking for the boat after it was never returned and over 4 hours late.

R387 A person on another boat saw the sleeping child alone on the drafting pontoon and notified authorities. It was 3 hrs after Naya had rented the pontoon. The boat rental company went looking for her after she didn't return the boat at the expected time.

Thank you! When I get more time, I’ll do some more reading.

R386 all of those questions can be answered by reading any of the hundreds of articles already out there on this. Jesus.

She's probably inking a book deal and an exclusive with Oprah. "I'm Back Everybody! The Story of ME",

She’s already written a book.

Naya would never fake her death and leave her child behind. She would've used a river or ocean to make sure her "both have fallen overboard" stunt leads to suspicion of drowning while their corpses are not found. With a high profile case people do work a lot harder to find the bodies. And these bodies can't go anywhere in a man made lake.

Oh my goodness. This is terrible.

R360 Not lifetime . It's going to be AHS:Glee . Written and produced by Ryan Murphy of course .

It is fishy - the boy says he was swimming with her. How does a 4 year old boy get back on a pontoon boat by himself.

Ugh, you know with Murphy involved Lea will be the last girl standing. Yuck.

Anyone that idolizes kum kuntrashian is bound to not be mentally healthy.

The drifting part makes me think she was moving around the boat and accidentally slipped, maybe hit her head, but she was disoriented, the shock of ice cold water, panicked and drowned. Knowing her kid was topside alone would make her especially frantic.

Careful questioning of the kid might elicit more information but I doubt they have the capability to do that.

Some fans think she’s been kidnapped

[quote]It is fishy -

I’ll say.

R408 Of course, they do. Glee-stans are nuts.

A 4 year old can easily misremember a sequence of events or not quite represent them accurately. They will understand key details but perhaps not exactly what went down and the order and won’t necessarily be able to tell that back perfectly. Maybe they were swimming earlier, got back in the boat, Naya got back in the water alone for some reason.

I have no idea what type of mother Rivera is but the most likely scenarios are accident or suicide. Some mothers do kill themselves in front of their children but it’s fairly unusual.

typo --- drifting boat.

This article mistakenly calls Naya's child a girl instead of a boy but it explains how another boater saw the pontoon drifting in the lake.

Who kills themselves using a lake?

The officer who gave the first press conference referred to the child as a girl.

Although this looks a bit suicidey, I suppose it could easily be general celebrity nonsense about life being too short.

R413 People who want to make sure their kids they leave on the boat don't drift out to sea.

R408

Some say the lake is cursed/magical and a mermaid or spirit dragged her underwater.

[quote]She’s already written a book

"My shitty wig: Life with Lea"

She had a G Wagon? How did she afford that on such scant residuals?

On the bright side, this was her second bath of the week!

If Rivera wanted to kill herself she could simply leave the child with family and check herself into a nice hotel and do herself in quietly. She has no way of knowing when the child would be found, or if harm would come to him while she’s busy killing herself. She doesn’t need to be mother of the year for me to think it’s an unlikely scenario.

R419 maybe she was wise with her money.

I always get shocked by how so many DLers don’t know there are many ways for young people to multiply their millions or even thousands in 2020

no body will be found. she disappeared. it's in the handbook. you do it near a body of water....

she's not right in the head obviously.

some women view their kids as burdens.

I bet she's heavily in debt.

Maybe she was swimming with her boy, they got back in the boat, she took off her life jacket, her phone somehow slipped into the water, she quickly goes back in to retrieve it without the life jacket, she gets a leg cramp and can't get herself to swim back to the boat and get in, and drowns.

It’s all a launch for AHS:The TV Series Curse, presented by Ryan Murphy and in her comeback role Naya Rivera. Members of an ensemble high school musical show with a revenge wig shitting diva slowly die and go missing one by one over the years as a final destination curse is revealed.

Ben Platt stars as a heterosexual singing football quarterback Tinn Eastriver and Lea Michelle as irascible Hannah Melon. Many clues lead to the murderer being Andrew Cunanan (Darren Criss reprising his award winning role) after he falls in love with gay make-up fashionista Hans Preciousmoments played by newcomer James Charles and transfers to the school. But lesbian killer tropes emerge that it might be cheerleaders Carlos (Naya) and Ariana (Britney Spears), but it’s not ruled out that that it might be female or male Asian (Akwafina and Henry Golding) or aging Broadway Divas (Chita Rivera and Liza Minnelli) jealous of the young people’s talent.

Before she drown if conscious she would have said something to her child. If the kid remembered her jumping he would have remembered that.

The cop said the kid was a girl.

When there is a death involving a divorced couple the motive is almost always custody of the child.

No, faking your death in a lake is actually a really dumb idea r423.

The smart thing to do is disappear while out hiking.

No one seems to be considering that the child is actually precociously intelligent and evil, a "Good Son" type.

She was likely taking the child out to drown him as she saw this future horror from him, but he ended up pushing her overboard and speeding away. Her cries and struggles until she eventually succumbed to the waters gave him odd pleasure that he doesn't understand now but will recall later when he strangles his first homeless person.

Who would have thought landing a role on Glee would become as bad as being born a Kennedy?

R427 Desperately despondent people don't always think in the most lucid manner.

R414 That officer misgendered that child, he is now cancelled!

2020 is the worst. The absolute worst.😔

The kid is called “Josey” and pics online will show him with long hair at times, plus he’s four years old. Unless kids are dressed or styled particularly male or female, then without they themselves identifying their sex or their parents telling you, it’s not always immediately obvious at that age whether they’re boys or girls. The police obviously weren’t Glee fans and simply assumed he was a girl from his name and presentation.

With the lighter hair she looks like Melania Trump.

She was really beautiful before all of the (unnecessary) work

Starring as Josey in his debut role in a few years in the made for TV Lifetime movie starring Selena Gomez will be Archie Windsor-Markle.

I agree that it was a botched murder-suicide, especially considering her final Tweet, which is a picture of her and her son captioned "just the two of us," like it's a farewell for both of them. Coupled with the 'life's too short' tweet from a few days ago, that sounds like a suicide note to me. She got out on the water and couldn't bear to harm the child, but she couldn't bear to go on, either. So she left him safe and sound on the boat, took off her life jacket, and slipped into the murky waters. Tragic.

R428 has seen The Bad Seed one too many times.

R438 it's the only logical explanation.

Jason strikes again!

[quote] no body will be found. she disappeared. it's in the handbook. you do it near a body of water....

It’s a mad-made lake, not the Atlantic Ocean. Where do you think the body is, if it’s not in the lake? Connecticut?

The whole scenario of taking a boat out, alone, with a small child, screams murder/suicide. What kind of fun would a single mom have on a boat with her 4-year old child and no one else? Does that sound like a nice relaxing day to you, operating a boat AND watching a 4-year old, alone on the water? If she wanted to enjoy herself, she would need at least one other person to help with some of these duties. If she wanted to swim and relax alone, she would have hired a baby sitter.

If both options, either a companion or a babysitter, were unworkable, I think any other person would have changed their plans. I think there would have been a lot of signs before this if she really was the type of parent to plan on leaving a 4 year old alone on a boat while she took a swim. This wasn't a day out for mom and baby; she had a plan, and in the end she could only go through with half of it.

Just here to mention the Glee Curse! Brr! The thought of that gives me chills! Who will be next????????????????????

How does Lea feel seeing all this?

R443 Who would you like it to be?

R442 it was clearly intended to be a murder, but The Child had other ideas.

Now the daggers are at the bottom of the lake.

eventually the body is going to float to the surface .

I hope Chris Colfer and Amber Riley are on time with their life insurance payments.

I think their significant others make sure of that. Is Amber even in a relationship?

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well, maybe the creator of the show sold his soul to the devil and said, you can have all their souls too...but just make me and the show a success!

Amber has been working steadily on foreign broadway and Chris has his children’s book series that have sold millions of copies. They’re fine.

[quote]If Rivera wanted to kill herself she could simply leave the child with family and check herself into a nice hotel and do herself in quietly.

Hunny that is the suicide of a basic bitch. She is a hot Latina actress! Puerto Rican at that. Her suicide must be a dramatic and Telenovela like as possible so her posthumous biopic makes lots of money for the little boy and the family!

If twitter is correct, her book says she grew up on boats and lakes, so I don't see all the horror at a day trip on a pontoon with a 4 year old. Almost 5 year old, I've now learned. My sister-in-law is a sailor and my nephew is very comfortable on sailboats. I guess I could pretty easily see her taking him out for a spin like this without being suicidal or homicidal.

R451 that would explain Ryan Murphy's career.

Blake Jenner have serious BDF. Hope he wont die before leaking his dick pics and/or performed a full frontal scene.

[quote] Amber has been working steadily on foreign broadway and Chris has his children’s book series that have sold millions of copies. They’re fine.

I agree. Totally fine.

R453 that's what I'm counting on!

"on foreign broadway"? It's just called the West End r452.

Now I am imagining someone calling Broadway "foreign West End"

R452 Are we now referring to the West End as foreign Broadway? The Brits are going to love that!

You’re right R453... don’t know what I was thinking.

Chris's childrens' books do seem to lean heavily into themes of incest, matricide, and rape, though. The coded language is there for all to read. Was Josey raised on those books, perhaps given as a "gift" by Uncle Chris?

Right r460? Foreign just also seems like a funny word to me when it comes to England, it's just freakin England, not Thailand or something.

Foreign Broadway is my new favorite term!

[quote]r128 it's much more likely that she took him to a lake, rented a boat, went to the middle of the lake and killed herself in front of her 4 year old.

You have to wonder what the child did that was so bad it would drive a parent to this.

Foreign Broadway!?

Did she spiral out of control after she was notified the Glee reboot is not happening right now? Was she supposed to be in the main cast?

I think we know who the real culprit is...

R465 well, perhaps this wasn't his first murder.

The article posted by r338 is very illuminating. The lake apparently has clearly defined swimming areas and the rest is restricted due to the potential risk of drowning, even for experienced swimmers (flotation devices are a must). I hope we get more information about where the boat was found drifting in relation to the swim regions. If they are somehow able to retrieve her cell phone (a stretch) and miraculously able to extract photos (a bigger stretch), surely there will have been some taken on the boat yesterday that could give a better idea of location and timing.

If the new Westside Story Maria is a hit maybe she can play Naya?

R463 is England in the USA? If not, it’s foreign.

R171, thanks for info. Now I see why she may have gone there - it definitely doesn’t even look like a swimming lake (unless by the shoreline maybe). She doesn’t seem like the type who would hop in and go swimming.

R472 Lesbians aren't foreign, though we originate from the Isle of Lesbos.

I hope she gets to play Naya on foreign broadway r471.

Ladies and Gentlemen, please welcome to the stage....Foreign Broadway!!

Many stupid people fall to their deaths trying to take selfies off of cliffs, balconies, tall buildings. Perhaps it was an unfortunate selfie incident- she's the type to do it.

I've read that only @1 percent of suicides are by drowning .she's a capable swimmer, from what i learned, so she will need a help from something to keep her from floating.

I hope as a fitting memorial they rename the lake Naya, Piru is such an unusual and non flattering name for a body of water. Naya water can be a sponsor and underwrite the campaign.

Freak breast implant accident

England is foreign, yes, but Broadway and the West End are basically almost the exact same thing in different cities albeit thousands of miles apart. Culturally they are extremely similar and at the mainstream level, they even typically have many of the same productions running either at the same time, or transferring from one to the other. It’s not like Riley was in theater in Moscow or Beijing.

I can play Naya in the theatrical release! I look young enough to pass for early 20s into 30s.

r470 according to posts on this thread she left her cellphone behind, which IMO makes the chances of this being a calculated suicide even more likely.

Amber Benson should change her name to Foreign Broadway. Maybe the reaper, with an ax to grind when it comes to the Glee cast, will not find her that way?

DANG IT! Amber Riley, not Amber Benson.

She was probably another actress perfect for the Rita Morena role in the new WSS who didnt get it an was devastated.

I'll never forget Sissy Spacek in Crimes of the Heart realizer why her her mother killed herself with her cat was because she didnt want to die alone.

But how would that help me r483?

r481/ J.Lo I think you have better chances by playing her grieving mother who always worried herself to death!

Has Becca Tobin commented yet?

Re R480 having posted that I am not sure I am for or against “foreign Broadway” because indeed they are so similar. Perhaps the more polite “overseas Broadway” or the “London branch of the Broadway franchise.”

I would think Amber Benson will be delighted to be mentioned on the DL or indeed anywhere on the internet in 2020, R483, albeit entirely mistakenly.

Unless you had a cellphone that would be damaged up the water. Another way to look at it being alone with her child you should have your cellphone handy.

Does that make Phantom "homeland West End"?

Amber captured our hearts when she won DWTS.

Now, wouldn't that make an interesting plot for the Glee cast to go through all kinds of shenanigans to avoid the deadly curse?

Amber Riley: Amber, would you mind we switch last names for a while?

Amber Benson: Huh? Who's calling?

Amber Riley: It's me, Foreign Broadway Star silly!

This is looking more and more like a Natalie Wood/Robert Wagner scenario. I think someone else was on the boat with her and her son.

Amber Benson: Foreign Broadway? DEAL!

Just here to make another joke about Foreign Broadway! Hehe snort!!!!

R496 Don't look at me! I was at quarantining at home!

Ryan Murphy presents the foreign Broadway premier of the much anticipated new musical “Gleefully Dead!” Backstage shenanigans occur on the set of a musical comedy high school TV show as cast members are murdered, die and disappeared, music and lyrics by Pasek and Paul, starring Ben Platt, Lea Michele, Darren Criss and returning to the foreign Broadway stage Olivier winner Amber Riley.

I understand Ashley Benson is also available to be the third point on this Foreign Broadway / Glee cast curse avoiding / Amber Riley decoy triangle.

So sad. I remember when she hosted the Glaad awards before the organizaton was completely trans-jacked.

Is it too soon to ask if I can have her stuff?

I also think someone was there and threw her overboard. I hope that monster is found.

My first thought was “ex-husband” but that’s unlikely because the boat rental personnel would have seen him. I think for insurance reasons, ghey are required to help passengers aboard and verify they are wearing life jackets, at least in California.

Unless they aren’t releasing that detail, either the kid or the boat rental people would have seen another adult with her.

[Quote] I also think someone was there and threw her overboard. I hope that monster is found.

I have a name!

So you think someone was there in the middle of the lake with them and disappeared into thin air? Are we accusing mermaids now?

Fuck you, R508! I'm pure as the clear blue water!

"I can play Naya in the theatrical release! I look young enough to pass for early 20s into 30s."

Bitch, please! I am the right choice for this role, I played Latinas before, no problem.

They likely escaped using skyhooks, r508.

I'm assuming Susan Dey is being her usual cold fish self about this.

OK divorced from a woman gay man here with kids. All this talk of not going out by your self with a four year old is ridiculous. Her idea to spend the afternoon on a stable pontoon boat sounds like fun.. I would throw them in with their life jackets on and see if they could make it back in. I had confidence in my ability to rescue them if need be. The pontoon boat probably had a ladder for getting back on the boat anyway. Not all parents "Mary" every potential risk..

Clearly David Corenswet did it as a favor for Ryan Murphy who did Lea Michele a solid. J'accuse!

Madame Riley, you can sing now.

[quote] Madame Riley, you can sing now.

It's MADEMOISELLE!

Does anyone have a link to a report that says she didn’t have her phone with her?

[quote]OK divorced from a woman gay man here with kids.

No credibility!

Did they find her?

BREAKING: Authorities have officially declared that the search and rescue mission to find Naya Rivera is now designated a recovery mission, as she is formally presumed dead.

How hard could it be to find a body in a lake if they know the location of the boat?

[Quote] I would throw them in with their life jackets on and see if they could make it back in.

Would you be wearing YOUR life jacket?

Maybe her son thought she was waving?

[Quote] How hard could it be to find a body in a lake if they know the location of the boat?

The boat was not anchored. It drifted.

R520 It's a mystery!

Maybe she’ll emerge with a magical sword in her hands?

Has anyone theorized that she may have heard a siren? I want the police to investigate that.

Has Natasha Waggoner commented yet? And offered to do a documentary exonerating the killers?

[Quote] Has anyone theorized that she may have heard a siren?

I'm resting my voice. But thank you.

Clearly Outer Space Aliens blame her for Glee going to shit and they took their revenge.

It's terribly sad. She didn't commit suicide. No mother takes her child to watch her die. And drowning is not easy to do on purpose Virginia Woolf. People will be devastated. Naya was the favorite of everyone but Ryan Murphy.

I'm still getting over Lyle.

This whole story is odd; if you had a comfort with boats, I could see taking the kid out to cool off, but it sounds like it's not really an area for swimming - it's nasty, brackish water - a big e-coli soup. Plus, it seems strange she didn't bring her phone. If she ran out of gas or had engine problems - not uncommon with boats - how would she contact someone for help?

Given the weird circumstances her social media posts, it doesn't seem unreasonable to assume even if it wasn't a deliberate suicide, she was depressed, maybe on something & not thinking clearly. Though that said, I can't for the life of me figure out why that Kennedy woman took her kid (with no lifejacket) to go after a damn ball & she clearly wasn't suicidal- so I guess the simple answer is that people are stupid

Reading this board on any topic involving a woman is nauseating and makes you realize how frauish most gay men are. HOW COULD A WOMAN ALONE TAKE HER SON BOATING!!!!?????!!!!

Wtf, morons?

Now she's No Nada Rivera

If a body is never found there will endless conspiracies and “sightings”

Obviously a camera caught it. They’re cameras everywhere. Their watching all a yous

R530 actually she wasn't my favorite.

Has anyone questioned Ginger and Mayanne?

Odder still that all of the cast members who have died were all romantically involved at some point.

I’m not saying she was murdered because of losing child custody. I’m saying she killed herself because was going to lose custody’

[Quote] Reading this board on any topic involving a woman is nauseating and makes you realize how frauish most gay men are. HOW COULD A WOMAN ALONE TAKE HER SON BOATING!!!!?????!!!!

[Quote] Wtf, morons?

Are you kidding? As mentioned, the water was brackish and she was not wearing a life jacket. She left her phone behind her.

Aren't live cams everywhere these days watching newborn wildlife?

[Quote] Odder still that all of the cast members who have died were all romantically involved at some point.

Not really, all the "Glee kids" were young.

[Quote] Aren't live cams everywhere these days watching newborn wildlife?

The would be if Mark Salling had something to do with it.

Yeah I found that kind of weird too R533. She is a single mother, she will do lots of activities just her and her son. A young woman who is fit and strong can row a rowboat on a lake, and it’s not usually dangerous.

The “Murder/suicide is most likely” freaks are really something else. Are you people high/drunk/mentally ill?

The sky was so blue that day, and the water so brackish...

Brackish Water should be a drag name.

[Quote] Are you people high/drunk/mentally ill?

Are you triggered by speculation you don't like?

The official Glee Twitter account has its finger on the pulse.

[quote]How hard could it be to find a body in a lake if they know the location of the boat?

As R523 said, the boat drifted. Also, “lake” Piru is a murky reservoir reaching depths of 160 feet with vegetation and discarded junk on the bottom. They are giving the body a day or two to resurface rather than risk the lives of recovery divers over a corpse. Hopefully she did not get tangled onto a submerged object.

The idiots on Twitter complaining about authorities not immediately dragging the lake probably should never go out on a boat alone. They are as clueless as the urbanites who drowned after thinking that swimming alone without a lifejacket in a garbage-filled reservoir was a good idea.

This is unbelievable! I’ve been watching the Glee series, since the government lock-down, and have been watching Season 3 where Naya’s character comes out. So ironic and tragic to read this. It does kind of make you wonder about the Glee curse. Naya was wonderful as Santana.

Yes, it was a set of young people tracked together for long hours. They were all fucking each other r539. Ryan Murpy described it like this.

[quote]"It was the best time in my life and the worst time in my life," he told Entertainment Weekly, going on to admit, "There was a lot of infighting. There was a lot of people sleeping together and breaking up. It was good training for being a parent, I'll tell you that much."

I wonder if she was accidentally hit by another boater? People get run over by boaters all the time on lakes.

This cannot stand! We simply must drain this lake now to get some answers! Guys, let's focus on this, ok?

First Rey Rivera and now Naya Rivera. Spooky!

Read this at Wikipedia. Maybe something similar happened to her.

[quote] Naftoli Smolyanksy died in a boating accident in August 2008. Smolyansky had taken his 9-year-old son and 5 and 7-year-old daughters out on the lake Monday afternoon when his youngest daughter fell off the boat. He jumped into the water to save her, and managed to get her back on the boat as it drifted away. Smolyanksy was unable to swim to the boat and did not resurface.

They really should instate a rule where there must be two adults on a boat when accompanying a child under say 10. This is a prime example that if something happens to the lone adult, the child will be left alone and vulnerable.

R556, Should Geraldo be nervous?

Sorry, R252, but that is the very definition of anemic. She had far better performances on Glee.

[Quote] Naftoli Smolyanksy

Parents can be so cruel.

Any word from Lea Michele?

R550 At least they didn’t caption it “how many people in this picture are not alive?” But yeah, the comments are reaching 2,000 and people are pissed!

Naya was deathly terrified of water. Theres no way she would be out there alone.

Naya grew by on lakes and rivers, and has been swimming since a toddler.

[Quote] Nya (sic) Rivera did not deserve this. This was an isolated incident and it ended. #supportinglivesmatter

That is weirdly tone deaf choice of tweet right now r550. Who is running that account, do they live under a rock and haven't heard the news.

She's busy styling a wig r562

She was a very gifted synchronized swimmer as can be seen in this clip.

Tweets are often schedule in advance, r567.

Swimming in dammed reservoirs is particularly dangerous. Water tends to be cold (yes, even near LA) and there is machinery and there can be strong currents thanks to pipes and machinery under the water.

R561, We've all heard that before.

Thread #2 is up. When needed.

“An accident, Josey, can be an unhappy child’s best friend.”

According to Wikipedia, the lake appears to be a death trap:

In August 1994, 27-year-old Jesus Danilo Carranza from North Hollywood drowned while on an outing with his family despite wearing a life jacket. [12]

In July 1997, Liborio Dominguez from Long Beach drowned while trying to rescue his daughter. The young girl was saved, but Dominguez’s body was not discovered until several days later. [12]

In September 1997, 22-year-old Isidro Castillo from Newhall encountered problems while swimming and called for his girlfriend to throw him a buoy. The woman was unable to get the flotation device to him. His body was found a day later. [12]

In September 1997, rescue workers recovered the body of 30-year-old Port Hueneme resident Ulises Anthony Mendoza, who was last seen struggling days earlier while swimming with family members near their boat.[12]

In 1997, park officials speculated that wind gusts and deep columns of chilly water on the lake, which is up to 160 ft deep depending on the time of year, can overtake swimmers quickly. [12]

In February 1998, the body of Lake Piru employee Arthur Raymond Caladara was found drowned near the dock. [12]

In June 1998, the body of 30-year-old Vy Xuan Dang from Garden Grove, who disappeared while swimming with his family during the Memorial Day weekend, was found by a park ranger.

In September 2000, 25-year-old Van Nuys resident Edie Cruz, swam the short distance to his stalled radio-controlled model boat, and drowned only 10 feet from shore. Douglas West, Lake Piru’s parks and recreation services manager, said there had been about a dozen drownings during his 23 years at the lake. Most victims are inexperienced swimmers who are not wearing life jackets and who overestimate their own abilities or swim in prohibited areas. [12]

Naftoli Smolyanksy died in a boating accident in August 2008. Smolyansky had taken his 9-year-old son and 5 and 7-year-old daughters out on the lake Monday afternoon when his youngest daughter fell off the boat. He jumped into the water to save her, and managed to get her back on the boat as it drifted away. Smolyanksy was unable to swim to the boat and did not resurface. [13]

On July 8th, 2020, actress Naya Rivera disappeared while swimming with her son. As of July 9th, a search of the lake is ongoing.

My favorite performance of hers and the show. She was fantastic as Santana Lopez and her coming out really hit close to home.

She planned it as a "Leave Her to Heaven" moment, but it backfired.

R564, We've all heard that before.

I’m thinking that Naya might have dropped her phone in the water and tried to retrieve it. Unfortunately, she might have died like Natalie Wood. But, we still don’t know if she’s alive or not.

I think it's safe to assume that if they haven't found her yet, she dead, gurl.

[quote]But, we still don’t know if she’s alive or not.

Oh hon, we know. If she somehow made it to shore she would have long been found. She is in the water, which means she is dead.

[quote]Is she in debt? she's faking her death...unless her body turns up.

Hopefully her family will hire a hard-boiled Private Dick to comb the bars of the waterfront and find she didn't succumb to foul play by any of the town's goons.

She's working as a waitress in a cocktail bar.

R575 But does it have a suicide rap?

So, the lake could like a Bermuda Triangle? R575? Thanks for posting that!

Has the boy been polygraphed?

R579 Died like Natalie Wood? Was there a drunk Robert Waggoner and Christopher Walker there too?

Her instagram account is sadly, suicide goodbye note after suicide goodbye note, for the last 2-4 weeks.

I know what it feels like to write this “notes” mentally, and fortunately, never write them or leave them behind.

RIP, sweet girl.

I’m sure it’s a scheduled tweet R570, it went out exactly on the hour, but it’s easy to log in and turn scheduled tweets off. Rivera’s disappearance has been all over the news since last night. Would also be easy to post they hope she’s found.

Every lake is a "death trap" r575. Thousands of Americans drown every year, usually in Lakes and Rivers.

"Was there a drunk Robert Waggoner and Christopher Walker there too?"

Oh, dear!

She better be dead or else this will ruin her career as it's going to be declared a badly executed publicity stunt.

Lea is drowning her sorrows in Veuve Clicquot.

Maybe she went chasing waterfalls?

Will Lea be singing something appropriate at the memorial service?

"Wind Beneath My Wings"

"The Water Is Wide"

Do I have to give this kid Disney stock too?

Sit Down, You’re Rocking the Boat.

Naya Can You Hear Me?

Dreams

If you’re taking your 4-year old on a boat ride, you bring stuff. Water bottle, snacks, a bathing suit if you plan to swim, sunblock, a hat. It’s basic parent stuff.

If she didn’t have a bag with those things, she didn’t plan on them coming back.

The Diva's of Glee. This is my favorite for today, for a few reasons.