Glenn Greenwald

Okay nobody cares about Greenwald! I used to think he was a good journalist but every year he seems more trollish and divisive. Snowden too, def not the hero he was made out tu be m, same goes for Assange

This guy is a foreign spook.

He's an ugly fag.

GG can go crawl up Putin's ass and die.

Didn't Glenn meet his boyfriend when he couldn't speak Portuguese and his BF couldn't speak English? Yet they managed to fuck their way into relationship? What a sleazy old lecher.

This anal retentive cunt will never be satisfied until he becomes the presidential nominee himself.

His System Update podcasts have been very good, especially the one where he interviews Andrew Solomon and Johann Hari about mental health during lockdown.

Greenways is a real journalist, not surprised to see the shills going after him.

What R7 said. He's a very smart gay journalist, and very independent. One of the few brave enough to cave into "popular" thinking and mob rule.

Greenwald is the best example of Horseshoe theory - he's so far to the left he's actually closed to the far right than he is any moderate.

What's why he defends Putin, China, Tucker Carlson etc.

He's a truly repulsive individual.

I loved watching his meltdowns on Twitter as his manufactured scandals about Biden (touchy-feely Joe, Tara Reade and cognitive decline) all collapsed as Bernie's campaign was unravelling. He shifted from calling Obama irrelevant and a failure to blaming him for orchestrating Bernie's defeat, all within the space of one fateful weekend. It was all extremely satisfying to watch.

Greenwald is garbage.

He's always been something of jerk interpersonally and that has kept him from really affiliating with other people, even virtually. He is a fairly strict civil libertarian (he was a practicing civil liberties lawyer) which means that like the late Nat Hentoff, for example, that pisses off some liberals. I think he also likes being a provocateur and at least started out being more of a real intellectual than a lot of center-left bloggers---given that and his legal background, he's always been skilled at constructing arguments rather than just following a party line. His "Interceptor" site is still interesting even if his own ideas have gotten a bit incoherent. The bf if in the Brazilian parliament and both he and Greenwald are on the outs with the current administration there and yes they met on the beach---I wouldn't be surprised if he had been a garoto (rentboy), of sorts.

The 'Intercept' has quietly dropped Tara Reade, which shows you they were only using her to try and stop Biden.

I remember when he supported “blowing up the American political system” but opposing Hillary and supporting Trump.

How’d that work out?

That’s still what he’s doing, r14. He wants to use anyone and anything to cause a complete breakdown in faith in existing us institutions so as to rebuild everything the “right” way. That being the way he sees things.

Susan Sarandon mads similar nooses in 2016. It shows what a fantasy world some people live in. Of course that’s true on the right as well — just look at how prevalent apocalyptic visions and rebuilding society is with such goobers as Steve Bannon.

Sorry that should have been “made similar noises” lol.

His husband was 19 when they met.

[Quote]They seem happy and all but how can he not admit the power imbalance in a teen with a 30+ even if legal adult?

I'm 32. I don't feel like I have any power over any 18-19 yo. If I approach to someone that age and try to give him an order out of nowhere, most likely he'll just tell me to fuck off. Try to think through what you're saying, OP. Don't just blurt out any crap because your fat girlfriends are doing so.

His detractors never have any cogent arguments against him, so they try to attack his choice of partner. And how sad that "he's an ugly fag" gets two upvotes on a gay board. "Wit" and "wisdom" indeed.

I'm with r7 and r8. Greenwald is one of the few real journalists we have today

R17 his partner admitted he hadn’t finished school and was just scraping by when he met rich American lawyer/reporter Glenn on holiday. Glenn even tweeted ironically Groomed, as his bf Is now making his own moves and doing well Just from career education and finances alone Total imbalance!

So he wants Trump to be president??

Also it’s all well and good for him to send his little messages to mess with Americans from his dog sanctuary abroad.

Thanks R12

I really used to enjoy the intercept and Glenn, but we need more than just trolling and pointing out how someone sucks to get through these times.

Tool of the Russians. Can't stand him.

The type that would publish whatever story the higest bidder would pay for.

I think he's just a contrarian asshole. There seem to be a lot of those on the far left, like Matt Taibbi, Glenn, and Cenk Uygur. They're opportunists and trollers who may have some left/liberal/progressive leanings, but for them it's more about attention seeking and notoriety IMO.

R25

Wool being pulled off my eyes! What a rude awakening!

Glenn Greenwald Has Effectively Joined the Trump 2020 Reelection Campaign

Glenn Greenwald: Black Lives Don’t Matter When There Are Democrats To Blame

[quote] It’s important to keep in mind that Greenwald presents himself as a champion of liberty. In reality, he behaves more like a right-leaning libertarian who doesn’t actually say he’s a right-leaning libertarian. His schtick is to attack Democrats as being the enemy of everything good in the world while ignoring the literal white nationalist fascism of Republicans. It’s a super transparent ruse that anyone not blinded by hatred of the Democratic Party can see through. But hate makes a lot of people easy to dupe (see, Republican Party, entire base of) so he still has quite the following.

Glenn Greenwald’s shameful performance on Fox News shows how he’s betraying his own values

The Intercept’s Glenn Greenwald has been on a crusade since the 2016 election to thoroughly combat the extensive reporting and analysis linking the Russian government and intelligence agencies to the interference in the 2016 election. Since the release of the Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s final report, which concluded without establishing that there had been any conspiracy between President Donald Trump’s campaign hand the Russian government, Greenwald has vociferously declared victory and claimed that he has been vindicated and those who have covered the story have been shown to be con artists.

I've wondered if it's a lust for money and attention, going 'round the bend for teh bern or what, but GG and Taibbi used to be half-way reasonable, have turned into blindingly sanctimonious shitheads. Matt, by the way had serious #MeToo doings in Moscow and NYC.

R7 R8 R19 So share with us, are you supportive of Trump? Do you admire the white Christian hegemony sourced out of Russia?

Greenwald and Matt Taibbi are representative of the shifting landscape of discourse in the America Public Sphere. They have both embraced crackpot grievance journalism... largely white, and anti-establishment. But the "leftist" resistance of their past is now closer to Q-Anon conspiracy delusional reporting, no longer a "marxist" critique of late-stage capitalism. They are old men yelling at younger thinkers to get off their ideological lawn. Sharing a beer with Newt Gingrich, Roger Stone, Andrew Sullivan, Assange, and Vladimir L. Bogdanov.

I also think that contrarian weirdos like Greenwald are embittered, because they haven't been embraced by the mainstream left or Democratic Party. They have an axe to grind.

e. They have both embraced crackpot grievance journalism... largely white, and anti-establishment.

Excellent analysis

[quote] Snowden too, def not the hero he was made out tu be m, same goes for Assange

I don't think these two should be grouped together. Whether you agreed with Swoden disclosing it or not, SCOTUS ruled that the NSA warrentless surveillance really was unconstitutional. Snowden was vindicated on the merits of the issue and we would never have known about it without him. Had he stayed in America, none of that would stop him going to jail for what would likely be the rest of his life. He is a young man. I don't love that he's run to Russia either, but very VERY few countries will outright ignore a call for extradition to the United States over something that grave. All of them that would are openly our enemies, that's all Snowden had to choose from. It's not like he knew what would eventually happen in 2016 when he picked Russia. If we want him back, we should pardon him becasue again, the surveillance really was illegal.

Assange is completely different. His "leaks" almost never uncover anything illegal. They're just designed to embaress political parties and people he doesn't like (Obama and the Dems) in the hopes they will be replaced with ones he likes (Trump). Nothing altruistic in it at all. He does not and would not leak anything that would damage a political person he likes.

r20 I bet David's English is much better than yours. That must mean that, whenever you get a boyfriend, we all must treat him as a groomer since you're obviously an uneducated loser.

[quote]The type that would publish whatever story the higest bidder would pay for.

If that were true, Glenn would be sitting in a Brazilian jail right now. He isn't because, as the Brazilian federal police found out, Glenn doesn't pay the hackers he has worked with, nor does he encourage them.

I think most of the pro-Glenn posts in here are from Glenn. I don't think anyone likes him as much as he does himself.

one of those leftists who hate liberals so much he's willing to go to bat for trump. biden is worse than trump, for ... reasons. sick, sick tool.

Being paid by Putin to damage US and EU. He's 100% a Russian stooge.

You're stupid R61, he helped Trump win.

I read some of his stuff, I disagree with a lot of it. Not a fan of his "democrats are just as bad " narrative. But he makes some great points , particularly regarding the American governments extreme military aggression and over involvement in other countries business and the terrible consequences it has had. For the most part, the mainstream press is terrified to discuss this because of their buddy-buddy relationship with the Pentagon and their own complicity in pushing for wars . His relationship with his husband is his business, they've been together for quite some time, who am I to judge?

I have wondered if Glenn posted here. His” fans“ seem to be the same the same poster.

Greenwald has a long history of engaging detractors on the internet under false accounts. I would not be surprised if he did post here.

I used to really admire the work he did as a civil liberties attorney and critic of the Democrats. The election of Trump changed everything, in my opinion. Greenwald and Taibbi are no longer relevant and their work cannot be taken seriously given what we are living with today.

I didn't like him even before Trump. Tucker Carlson is a white supremacist. As overt as you could possibly be and still be on television. He has devoted his adult life to demonizing and scapgoating minorities. He's utter filth. The fact that Greenwald can be best buddies with someone like that shows him to have no moral core.

Glenn rarely meets a fascist he doesn't love. Forget him, he's trash. Stick with Glem:

“But he makes some great points”

You’re a dumb idiot.

I can't stop giggling at the identical expression on Tucker's face in the links from R28 and R29... clearly, not the same appearance for Glenn, but Tucker takes him very, very seriously (which means no one else should).

Anywho, I'll say it again: there is a reason that Glenn Greenwald is not welcome in America.

He gives me traitor vibes. Anything for a buck.

He's bought by Putin, obviously!

[quote] That’s still what he’s doing, [R14]. He wants to use anyone and anything to cause a complete breakdown in faith in existing us institutions so as to rebuild everything the “right” way. That being the way he sees things.

That pretty much describes the modern left. They are the ones tearing down statues and demanding we renounce our history. Many on the left who feel alienated by these progressives claim that these divisive movements are the work of foreign propagandists, yet these protestations do little to silence the opposition on the left, just as it did little to silence the alt right. The possibility that foreign propagandists have infiltrated our discourse doesn't at all absolve the radical left from responsibility even if it were true. It would in fact paint a much bleaker picture of how easily our population is manipulated. Greenwald is a great example of why it's become much more important to remain independent.

Bullshit.

His deal is being an actual socialist which means he's an actual leftist, something most liberal Democrats (thus the majority of posters here) can't stand, because anywhere in the world they would be treated as the center-right neo liberals that they are.

He's divisive, because that's what real left wing politics is. Socialists are against the status quo and the establishment which is capitalism, so of course he'll antagonize it. Most Americans however want to domesticate capitalism, giving all sorts of stupid excuses to it. That's why many Democrats consider Sanders radical, when in reality he's considered a regular left wing politician anywhere in the world.

R34 Wikileaks has 1200 volunteers and publishes pretty much everything they're sent, Assange having any editorial control is questionable at best.

Or R52 he's just a paid Russian hack.

He's not "friends" with Tucker Carlson; he admits to using Fox to reach a wide audience and to prove a point because so many Democrats steer clear of it. He is, however, close friends with Noam Chomsky and his (Brazilian) wife.

[quote] Do you admire the white Christian hegemony sourced out of Russia?

WTF?

Authoritarians gonna authoritarian, and he's one of them. He's one of the tankies who occasionally dial back their rhetoric when in polite company, but for the most part believe their chosen leaders should be able to smash unbelievers with boot, Comrade! Very juvenile. To a large extent, it doesn't matter what an authoritarian's political party is, because the base belief is the same. David Klion is another, he's always going on about making liberals "bend the knee" or break to his will.

Modern leftists tend toward being tankies rather than socialists, which isn't a huge surprise given how social and economic upheaval can lead to extremism, and how social media has made it so easy to radicalize the bored, disinfranchised, spoiled, stupid, and gullible.

The reason these tankie types like Greenwald and Taibbi and others go on Fox isn't to "reach a wider audience" or any other such bullshit. It's because the right authoritarians share so much with the left authoritarians that they have a common ground.

[quote]He's divisive, because that's what real left wing politics is.

LOL no

You sound like one of those dipshit high schoolers who thinks that "To be great is to be misunderstood" means that, if you're misunderstood, it proves that you're "great."

Leftwing politics can be divisive, sure, but being divisive does NOT mean you're engaging in leftist politics.

There are plenty of leftists and socialists who aren't authoritarians or tankies, who don't need to praise Russia's slave labor for creating such an aesthetically beautiful subway system, who aren't denying that the Holodomor really happened, who aren't trying to throw the election to Trump, who aren't turning in real heroes like Reality Winner to the rightwing authorities.

R52 What load of BS. I am decades of DSA and I think Greenward has turned into Dennis Miller.... nothing remotely "real socialist" left there, R58 pretty effectively covers it. No "real socialist" would sidle to Christianist white supremacist.

And this is: [quote Leftwing politics can be divisive, sure, but being divisive does NOT mean you're engaging in leftist politics.

Like the MAGA folks think Trump is "disrupting corruption" and judge his success because of the chaos and noise.

[quote] He's divisive, because that's what real left wing politics is. Socialists are against the status quo and the establishment which is capitalism, so of course he'll antagonize it. Most Americans however want to domesticate capitalism, giving all sorts of stupid excuses to it.

So by your logic, the rest of the world regards BLM as a mainstream movement with its nonsense about dismantling the patriarchy and allowing third world feminism to take over all its institutions? I suppose defunding the police and reparations are mainstream positions throughout the world. Would JK Rowling and her allegiance to first wave feminism be considered conservative outside of America? Nope, she's always been identified as a liberal until she was banished for speaking against modern left wing orthodoxy.

[quote] So by your logic, the rest of the world regards BLM as a mainstream movement with its nonsense

I know you don't leave 4chan often troll, but yes, BLM is not just mainstream but widely popular. 61% of Americans approve of the movement.

Divide and rule: ten lessons about Russian political influence activities in Europe

1. Russia is the main threat.

2. Russia conducts political influence activities, and the main purpose is to weaken the European Union (EU) and NATO.

3. Russia is targeting populations; their approach is divide and rule.

4. Russia uses minorities, refugees and extremists to further its divide and rule approach.

5. Human intelligence is an important covert tool of influence.

6. Cyber operations are another important covert tool of influence.

7. The energy sector, business and corruption are used as venues for influence.

8. There is an extensive use of allies and front organizations.

9. Russia is reconstructing reality and rewriting history to legitimize itself and undermine others.

10. Military force is the ultimate tool of influence

good post R58.

Divide and rule: ten lessons about Russian political influence activities in Europe

1. Russia is the main threat.

2. Russia conducts political influence activities, and the main purpose is to weaken the European Union (EU) and NATO.

3. Russia is targeting populations; their approach is divide and rule.

4. Russia uses minorities, refugees and extremists to further its divide and rule approach.

5. Human intelligence is an important covert tool of influence.

6. Cyber operations are another important covert tool of influence.

7. The energy sector, business and corruption are used as venues for influence.

8. There is an extensive use of allies and front organizations.

9. Russia is reconstructing reality and rewriting history to legitimize itself and undermine others.

10. Military force is the ultimate tool of influence

Divide and rule: ten lessons about Russian political influence activities in Europe

1. Russia is the main threat.

2. Russia conducts political influence activities, and the main purpose is to weaken the European Union (EU) and NATO.

3. Russia is targeting populations; their approach is divide and rule.

4. Russia uses minorities, refugees and extremists to further its divide and rule approach.

5. Human intelligence is an important covert tool of influence.

6. Cyber operations are another important covert tool of influence.

7. The energy sector, business and corruption are used as venues for influence.

8. There is an extensive use of allies and front organizations.

9. Russia is reconstructing reality and rewriting history to legitimize itself and undermine others.

10. Military force is the ultimate tool of influence

sorry for the multiple posts

[quote] Greenwald has a long history of engaging detractors on the internet under false accounts.

That's what Trump used to do too, except in his case it was using a fake name to call gossip columnists to brag about getting pussy. That's the mark of an extreme narcissist.

[quote] One of the few brave enough to cave into "popular" thinking and mob rule.

Let me guess, you're against masks too?

He’s a patriotic liberal disgusted with the communists that have taken control of the Democratic Party.

[quote] I know you don't leave 4chan often troll, but yes, BLM is not just mainstream but widely popular. 61% of Americans approve of the movement.

Those polls are meaningless. People are in favor if asked if they support BLM, but they are not in favor of its specific policy proposals as outlined by the website. Most Americans are for preserving historical monuments, for reforming (not defunding) the police, against reparations, and more. Additonally, the BLM movement has become so loaded that no one could publicly admit to not supporting it without receiving backlash., especially if you are black or biracial yourself.

[quote] He shifted from calling Obama irrelevant and a failure to blaming him for orchestrating Bernie's defeat, all within the space of one fateful weekend.

This makes me just laugh. Remember how Bernie attempted to primary Obama? Then, this year, he puts out an ad to make it seem like Obama was a good friend and huge supporter of his. LMFAO. What a desperate corpse.

[quote] It’s important to keep in mind that Greenwald presents himself as a champion of liberty. In reality, he behaves more like a right-leaning libertarian who doesn’t actually say he’s a right-leaning libertarian

That is exactly what MOST libertarians are. I have seen many people on forums/discussion boards claiming to be libertarian even though they are only for economic libertarianim, not the social kind. They just want to be cool.

[quote] Assange is completely different. His "leaks" almost never uncover anything illegal. They're just designed to embaress political parties and people he doesn't like (Obama and the Dems) in the hopes they will be replaced with ones he likes (Trump).

Fuck Assange for the whole "The dems rigged the primary" BS. He's the one who started that and people believe it to this day. People believe it so much, they even think this year's primary was "rigged".

Greenwald is also typical of the Bernie Bro purity police.

Is the military budget bloated and can be trimmed? Yes.

Was the Iraq War totally unnecessary? Yes.

We can agree on those points, but there are other good reasons for having a robust armed forces. Keeping peace/stability throughout the world so that there is not another World War, that is a good thing. And keeping dictators like Putin in check without launching a third world war. I guess my point is that it's more nuanced than these purity police types would admit, they just want to burn it all down and start over from scratch. That's not how things work.

R57 why if one is libertarian, would one want authoritarian rule? Does Glenn really think his gay ass is exempt? His boy Putin is terrible to us! Das boot will be at his neck as soon as he no longer is of use?

And wtf I keep hearing “ Tankie” as if to make it cute. It’s scary AF to have either a far left or far right authoritative anything. Live and let live. Help one another out. Why is this so hard??

R75, this is typical of horseshoe theory/cognitive dissonance. Thesse people care more about theoreticals than reality. Hence, why they love people like Putin while railing against "American imperialism".

I would also add Oliver Stone to the list of Putin lovers like Greenwald. Its a shame, because he's a great filmmaker.

Really, Oliver Stone??? That surprises me. Putin would crush Greenwald like a bug if he could. I’m sure Bolsonaro would do the same.

Why the hell does Glenn go on and on about the US is such a horrible actor and he doesn’t even have the guts to live here and make it better. He’s a shit talker who just like to complain.

I guess we can throw in Michael Moore as well. I used to think he was a real champion of the working person, but he’s just a professional complainer. He wants the horrible person elected so he can have someone to rage at

R78 Stone did a "documentary" on Putin in 2017. Basically pro-Kremlin propaganda.

You guys use so many extra words.

He is anti-American. He hates America.

It’s not that complicated. He’s not the first, nor the last.

It's great and terrible at the same time that the far-left is so critical of America. It's good because frankly, every country needs its share of people from within that criticize it. It's bad because these people are basically Anti-American and walk right into the hands of grifters and regimes that are far, far worse than any of the American ones.

R81 I think the historic alignment of left/right is now questionable. In the last decade, things are changing. It's absolutely as accurate to say Greenwald is Far Right Fascist as it is to let him claim "leftist" roots.

A "far-right fascist" who despises the Bolsonaro regime and everything it stands for? A "far-right fascist" who's a long-time friend and admirer of Noam Chomsky? Also, here's a selection of current headlines on his The Intercept newsletter:

[quote]No ID, No Job: How Coronavirus Left Parolees in Excruciating Limbo After Leaving Prison

[quote]NATIONAL REVIEW IS TRYING TO REWRITE ITS OWN RACIST HISTORY

[quote]MONTHS AGO, AN OFFICER IN LOUISIANA SHOT A 14-YEAR-OLD BOY. IT TOOK THE GEORGE FLOYD PROTESTS FOR PEOPLE TO PAY ATTENTION.

[quote]THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS WAIVING THE PUBLIC’S RIGHT TO AFFORDABLE CORONAVIRUS TREATMENTS

[quote]JOHN BOLTON IS TELLING THE TRUTH, BUT LET’S NOT FORGET HIS HORRIBLE, DANGEROUS CAREER

[quote]Bolsonaro Fraudulently Circumvented Trump’s Covid-19 Immigration Ban to Smuggle His Scandal-Plagued Ex-Education Minister Into the U.S.

[quote]Chechnya Is Trying to Exterminate Gay People. Our Silence Only Emboldens Vladimir Putin and Ramzan Kadyrov.

[quote]FBI EXPANDS ABILITY TO COLLECT CELLPHONE LOCATION DATA, MONITOR SOCIAL MEDIA, RECENT CONTRACTS SHOW

[quote]George Floyd’s Murder May Finally End the Army’s Fealty to Defeated Confederate Traitors

If Glenn Greenwald is a "far-right fascist," what terms do you use to describe people who actually fit that profile?

[quote] A "far-right fascist" who despises the Bolsonaro regime and everything it stands for?

He despises Bolsonaro but not the ideas behind the man at all. Trump and Bolsonaro are mirror images. Both ultra-capitalist fascists who delight in violence against minorities. Glenn rails against Bolsonaro while at best ignoring, and sometimes instead praising Trump for identical behavior and views. He just doesn't like that he and his husband were personally targeted by the Brazilian government. I don't think he gives a shit about what Bolsonaro is actually doing to Brazilian people. He certainly doesn't give a shit about us in America.

Greenwald's hundreds of articles and columns, as well as his books, podcasts, and actions would contradict everything you claim, R84, but there's no point in citing them as there seems to be a tradition on DL of trying to discredit Greenwald based on spurious arguments. Right-wing fascists are the likes of Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller. Greenwald's politics are about as far from theirs as you can get.

Greenwald's hundreds of articles and columns, as well as his books, podcasts, and actions would contradict everything you claim...”

It’s called propaganda.

There is no excuse for believing his crap. They teach you about propaganda and logical fallacies in high school.

There is no excuse for being so gullible as to believe a single word from a propagandist.

All I know is when I was 18, anyone over 24 looked ancient to me. So yeah, love exists between generations, but let's be real, unless money or status are part of the equation, it's pretty rare.

R85 Here's Glenn with his best klan friend Tucker repeating Trumpist nonsense about the Russia investigation being a politically motivated hoax created by the New York Times. You really would not expect to hear some of these things said by a supposed journalist, especially the idiotic Trump line that anonymous sources, a pillar of journalism, are actually unacceptable apparently. Someone should go apply some of these absurd standards he lists to the negative reports on Bolsonaro.

It may seem like hypocrisy on Glenn's but it isn't really. Glenn does not like Bolsonaro because the government targeted him and his husband. When white supremacists and fascists like Tucker and others on Fox are very nice to Glenn personally, he falls all over himself defending and propping them up. People who ignore him or aren't nice to him, like Dems get unflinching and total contempt. That's it, that's his only standard.

[quote] Here's Glenn with his best klan friend Tucker repeating Trumpist nonsense about the Russia investigation being a politically motivated hoax created by the New York Times.

Glenn is the "libertarian" version of Van Jones--he'd bend over backwards for Trump if he offered him an opportunity to "work" on something he could get his name on.

[quote] Here's Glenn with his best klan friend Tucker repeating Trumpist nonsense about the Russia investigation being a politically motivated hoax created by the New York Times.

Russia has been successful at sowing opposition within the left when it comes to race and identity and isolationist foreign policy. Greenwald was right in that many of the movements that moderates decried as Russian propaganda have achieved grassroots support.

If he is a propagandist as you claim, he must be the biggest nihilist in the world. So what is his true agenda, in your view? Some of you are simply offended by a genuinely principled, and yes, reactionary person who has never been afraid to expose government malfeasance of all kinds. He has criticized the Clinton, Bush Sr., Bush Jr., Obama, and Trump administrations, and some of you feel personally attacked by his anti-Americanism. There are a lot of unpopular truths out there.

I think some of you may also feel threatened by how accomplished he is: he left a successful career in law to become an influential journalist, emigrated to Brazil, built a life for himself over there, got married, started a family, learned to speak fluent Portuguese, learned everything he could about Brazilian history and politics, and he continues to put his life at risk by publishing critical articles about the Bolsonaro regime, exposing several scandals. One of my closest friends returned to Brazil (after living in Spain for years) back in 2014. We speak about twice a month and he follows Greenwald closely, trusts his reporting and said his interviews with Lula have been among the most insightful he's read.

Greenwald's training in philosophy and constitutional law, his critical mind, intellectual honesty, and natural tendency to question everything would indicate the very opposite of a propagandist, in my view. And even if I thought some of his ideas were dodgy, I'd still value him for doing what he does.

[quote] Greenwald's training in philosophy and constitutional law, his critical mind, intellectual honesty, and natural tendency to question everything would indicate the very opposite of a propagandist, in my view.

This reminds me of when Melania stole Michelle's speech.

Criticizing the US to make it better is one thing, criticizing to cause division which benefits a foreign hostile entity is quite another.

The way Putin operates is to bribe, blackmail and extort people.

I suppose you can't expect much from a board where a comment like "he's an ugly fag" gets several upvotes. Truly dispiriting.

This thread and the linked Twitter feeds etc. are a perfect explanation of the autistic inscrutable manner of so much political discussion these days. Endless allusion, unsourced facts, vague catchphrases and undefined terms all blanketed with insults and innuendo - hardly an actual idea to be read. Really you're all a mess.

[quote] Criticizing the US to make it better is one thing, criticizing to cause division which benefits a foreign hostile entity is quite another.

In what way could you criticize the US without causing division which benefits a foreign hostile entity? Calling someone who doesn't agree with your world view a traitor to their country sure sounds familiar.

R92 please show us these videos of Glenn criticizing Trump you claim exist.

Whatever Bill and Hillary, Obama did, it never benefited Putin.

If you, R97, don't understand the difference between constructive criticism vs being a chaos agent, then nobody can help you. Geez how naive are you?

Both Glenn and his husband follow Connor Jessup on social media and often like/comment his posts for some reason. What an odd friendship (?) considering Connor's young age.

R92: For starters, about half the articles on The Intercept in recent weeks have been on Trump's mismanagement of the coronavirus crisis.

From Jeremy Scahill:

[quote]In the United States right now, we are witnessing the blowback caused by stupidity, ignorance and anti-science policymaking from the highest office in the land. Coronavirus infections are skyrocketing across the country, notably in states whose governors joined Donald Trump in minimizing the grave danger posed by not taking Covid-19 seriously. Both Trump and Vice President Mike Pence have overwhelmingly refused to take the most basic steps to project a message of responsibility or to encourage people to just wear masks. They have celebrated and spoken in front of mass gatherings of people who have equated wearing protective masks with the loss of their liberty. And now the virus is spreading like wildfire through the states of some of Trump’s most loyal followers and supporters.

[quote]Instead of realizing the deadly mistakes of his administration’s response to this pandemic, Trump has spent weeks railing against Black Lives Matter protests, attempting to criminalize dissent and dreaming up scenarios where he can order police and military forces to operate with even greater brutality. Trump appears to spend more time developing edicts to lock away people who deface or destroy Confederate monuments than he does actually trying to save the lives of Americans fighting a lethal virus.

Greenwald didn't write that article genius. Though telling you had to find someone else criticising Trump because there isn't much of Glenn doing it like you claimed.

He has been overwhelming friendly and accommodating for Trump Cable News. He really should have been paid and billed as a Trump campaign surrogate for some of those Tucker hits.

Russian asset

He and his husbands are friends with DL Fave Connor Jessup and comment on eachother’s posts.

*husband

It's HIS publication, R102. As editor-in-chief, Glenn IS The Intercept and while most stories are not written by him personally (he tends to focus on Brazil), he commissions the articles and pays the writers.

This video is from one month ago: "Glenn Greenwald on US protests: Trump's push to deploy the military is 'threat' to democracy"

[quote]Greenwald also called Trump's push to send in the military to quell the protests a "grave threat" to democratic values, adding that it could "give a signal to other leaders around the world", such as Brazil's Jair Bolsonaro.

Wow, somebody is trying real hard to sell this traitor on here. Of course he's a Putin stooge.

Obvious Russian asset.

FFS, Glenn is not a principled anything. He was a cheerleader for Bush II and the Iraq War. And then he just lied about it when he decided he wanted to play revolutionary.

And he does this shit all the time. He has no real principles, he just lampoons whatever position is needed to support whatever side he's on at the time.

Glenn doesn’t look like he’s charmin clean.

Let's just ask the question all of DL wants to know, is Glenn a bottom????

R96 Did you mean for your post to exemplify that which you criticize, or was it just serendipity?

good find R109.

[quote] Whatever Bill and Hillary, Obama did, it never benefited Putin.

Hilarious.

Bill Clinton was very much in favor of a unified Europe. Sometimes Putin is trying to destroy and undermine with every step. Bill and Hillary are both pro strong western alliances, pro strong NATO.

Your point R114???

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Does Glenn drink the blood of babies like Madame Theil? While not attractive, he looks quite young for his age.

Maybe it’s all the liberal tears he loves to drink ...

Anything for a buck with this set. Tabbi, Tulsi, Stien...

Even selling out your own country.

Who keeps referring to this guy as a journalist? That is weird.

Nobody would ever think he was a journalist in a million years. He’s a lobbyist.

And probably a spy.

R120, it's his one fan on this thread that keeps saying it. Repeatedly. According to this person, Glenn is an intellectual and philosophical paragon of the highest integrity bla bla bla. Even Melania doesn't sound that phony.

So what did he win the Pulitzer Prize for Public Service for in 2014?

What the hell? Nobody should be falling for his propaganda.

He’s not even good at it. He’s a small time grifter and not nearly as good as his cohorts. He tries to copy other propagandist and he doesn’t come close. He’s a loser even in that circle which is saying a lot.

Nobody cares what he says or reads his crap propaganda rag.

[quote] So what did he win the Pulitzer Prize for Public Service for in 2014?

For being a cunt.

I would never click on his website. God only knows what foreign bugs you will pick up.

“Everyone who disagrees with me is Hitler.”

Is that what they're calling STIs now, "foreign bugs?"

R126 Glenn can’t take even the slightest critique.

This guy is such a pos on Twitter, spouting Russian propaganda with every tweet. Ew R104, that’s gross of Connor.

OP writes,

[quote]What’s his deal?

Glenn Greenwald is both an attorney and a journalist.

Why are you not capable of understanding this?

If I wasn't so lazy, I'd like to start tormenting Glenn until he snaps. Just because it would be kinda easy.

Matt Taibbi is one of the most intelligent critics of left wing progressives, and his status as a Left Liberal is beyond question.

It’s like you people are too stupid to understand why anyone would disagree with you.

Greenwald was pro Iraq war and anti immigrant lager ago. He’s a complete narcissistic scumbag and worse than any right winger. At least they’re despicable and honest about it. This fucker is on the white supremacist power hour with Tucker Carlson regularly and thinks he can slam even AOC as not sufficiently “left” enough. He’s straight trash.

If it wasn’t for the Snowden story he’d be begging for bucks on Patreon

Taibbi is an trust fund twit and a misogynist since his exfile days

[quote]What’s his deal? Is he a Russian agent? A pedo? A secret Trumper?

Yes.

R129 Maybe Connor is just an oblivious Canadian. Their friendship (?) is odd nonetheless.

R132 is typical Taibbi trash: grand pronouncements without any supporting evidence, ad hominem, defensive and aggressive, and random capitalization. It's the epitome of Taibbi fanboy behavior.

Didn't Tiabbi and Greenwald both dismiss the idea that Russia had interfered in our elections?

Its so wonderful that Scahill and The Intercept finally see Trump for what he is.

When I listened to their podcast in 2017, they spent much of it attacking Democrats and going on about the Russia hoax.

Fuck them. There are better voices to listen to.

Low-slung propaganda trash bags. The lot. Anything for a dollar.