Surprising celebs and "people of note" who smoke.

Another of Chris.

He's also a cokehead

makes sense. he has anxiety

January Jones

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A lot of actors smoke. I don't know why people are continually surprised by this.

I've never known an actor who didn't. Keeps you thin, gives you an opportunity to socialize, makes you look bohemian.

same here, all actors smoke

Oh god is the fucking Smoking troll back? I thought Muriel finally exterminated that shithead.

This explains the vaping thread too. Ugh.

DL icon Connie Francis was famously arrested for smoking aboard an airplane in 1985. Miss Francis claimed she was too busy reading a book to see the "No smoking" signs.

Nicotine reduces hunger pangs.

I've heard Rachael Ray smokes....something....

R9 He’s back. Oh God, please somebody extinguish him in the nearest ash tray.

Jackie O smoked when she was a Kennedy in the White House. Don't know if she smoked in her latter years.

I've heard 1 or 2 packs of smokes, a shot of vodka, a glass of water, and a slice of bread are enough to get people thru the day.

But I've never tried it.

Benny Boy won't let no damn mask interfere with the sweet, sweet 'tine coursing through his lungs.

I’m telling!

R16 2020 summed up in a photo 😂 aren't we all Ben in this picture?

Kate Middleton apparently and Laura Bush. Heavy smokers.

It can be a good career move.

OP here - I've never started a smoking thread, ever, so R9 and R13 can go into a dark room and stick a lit cigar up their gaping holes.

Smoking is fun. I don't blame them.

Kris Jenner

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R6/r7/r8 it’s seriously almost all of them, especially below a certain age. I’m not sure why this is surprising either.

I’ve mentioned this before but I’m in the PR/event business and you see it all there (either a fashion event, a screening after party etc) either outside or in some corner somewhere. Only difference between now and the “old days” is they 99% of the time make sure never to get caught on camera.

And ugh Kate Moss is so fucking gross. Why is she still any kind of an icon?

Actors and actresses have always been known to be smokers. They just try to hide it in this day and age because smoking has such a stigma. now.

[quote]Jackie O smoked when she was a Kennedy in the White House. Don't know if she smoked in her latter years.

Jackie was a very heavy smoker right up until she got diagnosed with cancer, and even then she only quit reluctantly.

I love this photo of Jackie clamping a cig in her mouth like a longshoreman, at some fancy event.

Ivanka, there are more photos...

J. Lo

Natasha Richardson loved it. She was very outspoken against the NYC smoking ban and wrote several editorials about it.

M.

Nicole Kidman

Daniel Day-Lewis

Chris Pine, which is a big reason why he's aging like shit.

Gwyneth Paltrow, although now she claims to only smoke on Saturdays.

Chris Pine even smoked on stage at some event, which is something you never see celebs do anymore.

Malia Obama

Doesn't Obama smoke?

Chris is just leaning back into his Boston Irish working class roots.

Obama allegedly quit years ago.

A recent book said that GW and Laura Bush would smoke in the White House, near a window that was cracked open.

R28 she did her share of coke too and was bulimic.

Some of them even smoke pole.

Connie Chung

Europeans are very frank smokers and laugh at our American anti-smoking hysteria. That being said, Prince William and Harry smoke, as does Catherine.

Liz Hurley

My doctor smokes.

I agree with R42 that there is no stigma associated with smoking in many of the European cities I've been to. One just does or one does not. We are a bit hysterical about it here, that's true. Especially since Americans are hardly avatars of health on so many other fronts.

I also wonder if many celebrities -- the really big ones -- continue to smoke because they are just used to getting their own way. One of the reasons I quit was because it was a hassle to smoke wherever you went. But if you owned a restaurant and someone complained that George Clooney was smoking, which one do you think the owner is going to accommodate? If you're some small time actor trying to make it and you got a bit part in one of the Marvel movies, do you think you'll be there tomorrow if you complain about Chris Evans' second-hand smoke?

r45 reminded me that Bette Davis continued to smoke wherever and whenever she felt like it, into the 1980s when lots of regulations banning smoking began to be passed. Bette didn't give a shit, she still smoked in restaurants in Beverly Hills and other places where smoking had been banned and nobody had the nerve to stop her.

This site has an insanely detailed list of female celebrity smokers.

I quit smoking about 5 years ago. Getting close to retirement these days. I can tell you that the best career advise always came from going outside to smoke and chatting up fellow smokers. There is a camaraderie between smokers. I had direct access to the Vice President of the company if I provided the Marlboro’s so his wife didn’t know.

Smokers, how is it for you during COVID-19? Is there a lot of shaming when you yank the mask down and light one up?

R48

Me too.

When I was in my early 20s I smoked, and so did several of the VPs.

I was promoted over other candidates because those VPs had spent time talking to me over a cigarette break, and knew my strengths and weaknesses.

HATED the company, but it helped me move up the ladder, and gave me the confidence and capital to start my own company.

If you work in a professional capacity these days, smoking is a huge liability. It's best not to smoke at all during working hours.

R49

Smokers are only half as likely to test positive for COVID-19, so it’s working out well for them. I bought nicotine patches a couple of months ago after seeing the research on nicotine and coronavirus susceptibility.

It was a fucking bitch not to just buy a pack of cigarettes!!!

R51

To an extent...but smokers know, and will congregate.

If a couple of people in management smoke, and you can persuade them to “clue you in”, then you have a big advantage over the rest of your group. The only time I’ve ever golfed is with upper management, and only because we had developed a rapport while “sneaking a ciggie”. My lack of golf skills was not only endearing, but gave me a chance to “come out” in a nonchalant manner.

I was dying as I said the words, but they already knew I was gay, so their response was “And...?” They didn’t care, so it was much ado. My immediate supervisor was SO hot in those shorts and polo.

Fond memory.

R51 the liability piece has driven the smokers into the closet, but the muckity mucks still smoke, as do the peons. There are a ton of closet smokers.

My husband can smoke whenever he wants!!!

Melania/Melanie/Melanoma

r55 who is that?

I remember Michelle Pfeiffer said something back in the '90s or maybe late '80s that smokers were the best conversationalists.

Interesting now a days when the warnings on movies say... sex, nudity violence, smoking!

R58 I agree with her.

Jackie Kennedy, Pat Nixon and Laura Bush were all chain smoking First Ladies.

I don't smoke, but I do still have a bunch of authentic Cuban cigars somewhere in my house. How long can they last? It's been 5 years since I got them in Havana.

R54 peons and socialites slash celebrities slash models. That fucking Lauren Santo Domingo purposely post pictures of her smoking in a “let them eat cake” kind of way.

But no one in the middle — middle/upper middle class — smokes anymore.

Michelle Pfeiffer quit smoking right before she had her first child and she says she still misses it.

Here’s a photo of Calista Flockhart smoking. yw

Most models smoke--appetite suppression

There's nothing remotely surprising about Evans or Affleck smoking--at least to me. They look like smokers.

I'd be surprised if Chris Hemsworth smoked tho.

I quit smoking 8 weeks ago to become a full-time Juuler. I miss cigarettes!

Europeans are frank with smoking as they are with corpofilia

Nicollette Sheridan also smokes like a chimney.

I was surprised that Julianne Moore and Jim Parsons were both heavy smokers in the past because they've both aged so well.

[QUOTE] they've both aged so well

Botox and fillers work wonders

Jennifer Aniston is another one who smoked like a chimney for years and you'd never know from her looks.

R71 Moore's face is awfully expressive for someone with a lot of botox.

Mom smokes in the van. Jesus is ok with it, we just can’t tell Dad.

Julie Andrews was surprisingly a heavy smoker. I saw an interview clip with the little girl from Mary Poppins, she commented that it seems odd that in the movie Mary Poppins is never holding a cigarette like she remembers.

r51 my workplace (academia) has sprinklings of "secret smokers," many in positions of power. Obama was a 2 packs of Marlboro reds a day guy through his presidency, claims Michelle made him quit after he left office, I don't believe it for a second. Look at him in that split-screen thing he did with Biden the other week, when he wore all black. Marlboro reds. Both W and Laura smoke(d).

R72 but you can from her voice.

Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen

Miss Warwick is still sucking down the Virginia Slims. At nearly 80, the old girl probably has no plans to quit.

Stevie Nicks was a heavy smoker, I guess we can surmise that’s why her voice lowered so much and lost her vibrato. That, and misuse, and possibly cocaine.

I'm surprised at the number of singers that smoke.

Maybe not a surprise but Bananarama.

now you vape in the bathroom.

R42 "hysteria"? oh yeah cuz lung cancer is like, no biggie!

anyone who still smokes in 2020 is a fucking moron

a lot of celebs are morons

I don't care who smokes and I can't stand it when people talk about smokers in a concerned, superior or judgmental way.

What's next, a thread about stars who eat a lot of high-cholesterol foods, or drive without seatbelts on? It's like a bunch of old farts gossiping.

Did you say high cholesterol foods???

R72 - she probably smokes like some women I saw here in Romania. With an espresso and slims. The pretty ones make it a sexy ritual at the cafes.

Kate Middleton's face and voice are the archetypal smoker look. Meghan is too shrewd and self-preserving to smoke.

I don't buy Kate Middleton smoking. If she is I know a photo would never get out. The only thing that could convince me is her voice. If she sounds like Lucille Ball once she gets to about 45, I'll believe it.

It was pointed out on a similar thread that almost all former child actors smoke. they were all in a big hurry to be treated like grown-ups and thought this would be a short cut.

Kate Middleton socially smoked when she was an undergraduate, but she absolutely does not now. Neither the Queen nor Prince Charles will tolerate smokers--they both made their current spouses give up smoking as a condition of marrying them. And William would do as they did--he is such a good little boy.

[quote] It's like a bunch of old farts gossiping.

If you're not here for gossip, then you're a complete dipshit, sicne that's how the site advertises itself.

And if you originally came here thinking you were somehow going to chat with glamorously youthful companions, you're equally a dipshit if you haven't figured things out by this time.

So basically you're a dipshit no matter how you look at it.

R44 My doctor growing up smoked. It totally confused me.

[quote]Neither the Queen nor Prince Charles will tolerate smokers--they both made their current spouses give up smoking as a condition of marrying them. And William would do as they did--he is such a good little boy.

Fuck you both. I'll be a pack-a-day queen by the time I'm 14.

That surprises me, R76. The occasional cigarette wouldn't surprise me, but not 2 packs a day. At his age, it would have quickly caught up with him.

[quote]My doctor growing up smoked. It totally confused me.

My parents were friends with a doctor who smoked and quit when he was his mid 40s. A friend's mother was a nurse and a heavy smoker for a long time. He mentioned that some of his mom's nurse friends were smokers. When I was in college, I worked as a receptionist at a nursing home for awhile and the head nurse and the doctor on staff were smokers. They used to walk down the street to cafe parking lot to smoke.

A few years back, I was watching old episodes of Trauma:Life in the ER and there was one episode where the crew filmed a trauma surgeon smoking outside the hospital. He said he wasn't a heavy smoker and sometimes smoked before he started his workday and would smoke sometimes after performing long surgeries.

My mother began her nursing career in the 1970s and she told me that smoking was allowed in the lounges on each hospital floor. Patients and their families would go into the lounge for a cigarette, and nobody thought anything of it. My mom told me that the hallways always reeked of smoke. In a hospital, of all places! What a different world it was back then.

Jessica. Her place in Washington Square reeked of gin and stale cigarettes.

I remember long ago Barbra had a music video where she was smoking and I was shocked because I thought she would be picky about conserving her voice.

Having lived in Italy, it seems like everybody smokes. I saw this very young girl that looked 13 or 14 getting picked from school by her dad and she casually stubbed her cigarette out as she got into the car and didn't attempt to hide it

That old picture of Ivanka smoking she actually looked more fun, not the plastic Barbie she is now

I quit 18 months ago and staying on the wagon during lockdown has been ridiculously hard

I was 70 pounds lighter when I smoked.

There is a black and white picture of my uncle as a teenager smoking in his hospital bed from the 60's after having his tonsils removed!!

R42 I doubt Harry still smokes. Meghan is too health conscious especially now therenis a baby

I call Virginia Slims vagina slimes

Catherine Deneuve - drinks a lot too and loves French Fries. Guess that explains her recent stroke.

R57 - my husband = Paul Mescal, actor "Normal People"

[quote] Kate Middleton socially smoked when she was an undergraduate, but she absolutely does not now. Neither the Queen nor Prince Charles will tolerate smokers....

I’m guessing Kate does smoke. That’s how she stays extremely thin. Most of her daily life, she’s not with the Queen and Prince Charles. She can smoke privately.

chris pine and evans both look so hot smoking....ide gladly be their ass tray....

I remember Martin Short on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson doing an extremely unflattering but very funny imitation of Lucille Ball’s raspy voice.

It was one line, “Gary, hand me my purse“ and it sounded very much like Wolfman Jack.

When I was in high school the students were allowed to smoke. It was outside on a concrete pad about 20‘ x 30‘ and was less than 15 feet from three huge propane gas tanks!

I was friends with the band director and he allowed me to smoke in the band room.

Kate Winslet and baby...

R42 What bullshit you spew.

As someone who lives in Europe we do not laugh at you for anti smoking, we laugh at you for a lot of other reasons.

yes, people smoke openly but here is is a very divisive subject. Some countries have finally admitted that nicotine is a drug and they make drug rehab available for those who want to stop smoking.

We ban it in our restaurants as well and many countries here have strong bans on this addiction.

If you want a real list of the reasons we laugh at you, just ask.

What are the reasons R113?

go ahead R113

R114 and R115

We laugh at you for your 'two party' system We laugh at you for your candidates Trump and Dementia Joe We laugh at you for your belief in being the best, when we see you as the worst We laugh at you for your disgusting dudebro food We laugh at you for your massive portion sizes Your healthcare system Your defense of GMO Your soda consumption Stuff like that.

R112 Wonder if she breast fed and smoked at the same time.

Matthew Perry.

what about someone like me who doesn’t support Trump and who eats a moderate diet?

Are we allowed to laugh at centuries of European anti semitism? Or stinky foreskins? Or how you seem to like to pay money to come to America (in your puffy coats, backpacks, and dirty trainers) to enjoy tacky things like Times Square and Disney?

gags, kate w smoking wid her baby on her......NASTY MOMMY

24 year-old Paul Mescal is a big smoker

Laugh at anything you like R119, I don't give a fuck.

Miles Heizer used to be a major druggie and smoker.

Brandon Flynn

Melanie Griffith is still heavy smoker and she allowed her spawn Dakota to start smoking as a teenager.

I miss smoking. I plan to start again on my 70th birthday, cos why not at that point? 20 years to go!

Cloris Leachman

R111 I remember it as “Gary, get me my clutch.”

Kate Winslet with her 3 kids from 3 different men has always been trashy.

Winslet is European, they have a much franker attitude about child rearing and familial relationships.

I don’t smoke cigs most of the time. But I have found that a pack of camels with a couple of joints included are quite useful at corporate events.

R111, my high school had "the smoking porch," which was the area right outside the pool entrance. It was still in operation as of 1 990.

Bette Davis

You people just cannot stay away from your favorite subjects, YOURSELVES. You narcissistic queens can’t even keep a thread on topic. You have to always bring it back to yourselves. The topic was about people who smoked that would surprise you.

Here’s my contribution: BONNIE FUCKING FRANKLIN!!

And nobody cares about your high school days you fucking shit heads.

r134

that does shock me... any pics

Kit Harrington drags on the fag

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I saw pics of Ben Affleck smoking and his brand is Marlboro Lights Menthol, which is a very "chick cigarette." I thought that was funny.

That's why they're all quarantining and continue to do so. If these actors catch COVID they are done due to all that lung damage from smoking.

Chris Evans and Pine have each been smoking since they were teens. This isn’t a new habit they picked up.

Not everyone has the same damage done to them from smoking. For instance, it has aged my face by a few years, but my stepdad smoked since he was 10 and he still looks 15 years younger than he is. People get shocked by his age.

r136 Our dear Bonnie

[quote] Neither the Queen nor Prince Charles will tolerate smokers

Both the Queens mother and father smoked as did her sister Margaret, so I guess she tolerated it some. I read somewhere once that while the Queen never smoked, she didn't mind people doing so.

Ed Sheeran

Catherine Zeta-Jones

In CZJ’s case smoking has aged her beyond her 29 years!

Leo Dicaprio

Isn’t Brad Pitt a smoker?

My cousin lives in Bermuda.

A long-time ago, after Catherine Zeta-Jones married Michael Douglas, my cousin and Zeta-Jones met over both of them stepping outside a social event to smoke on a balcony. Her and Michael Douglas either own, or, used to own, a property there.

I know everybody here gets a kick out of whatever her age is but my cousin said she's physically striking and that she was very friendly and down to Earth.

I, too, miss smoking. I was a Kool's smoker.

I don't know how anybody except wealthy celebrities can afford to smoke cigarettes.

I hated menthols. I never knew how people could smoke those.

[QUOTE] . I never knew how people could smoke those.

Don’t look at us

Massachusetts recently banned menthol cigarettes because "that's what young people smoke." It was done as a way to curb youth smoking, which surprised me. Times must've changed because when I was a teenager in the 90s nobody smoked menthols. At my high school it was almost 100% Marlboro with a few Camel smokers and that was it. Menthol smokers were kind of looked down on i.e. "why the fuck are you smoking those shit sticks?"

Most thin celebs smoke.

90% of the people in showbiz smoke, especialy women, cause it helps with the no eating thing

R145, Someone needs to post that picture of CZJ topless, sunbathing, pregnant and smoking.

As others have said, most actors smoke. It calms them down AND helps them concentrate, so they can learn their lines and come off calm and cool when they're in front of a camera (or an audience).

R111, Short has smoked for the last 50 years, that's why he looks 15 years older than his age. Even with good lighting.

The people who genuinely surprised me are the great dancers from the Golden Age, like Fred Astaire, Donald O'Connor, Ann Miller, Eleanor Powell, etc..

In the 60s everyone smoked, even while they were eating. Gross.

Disappointed, but not surprised to learn that Dermot Mulroney has smoked for 30+ years.

He was so beautiful...now all lined and baggy-eyed...and only 56.

Rob Lowe, Will Ferrell, James Corden, David Beckham, Robert Pattinson, Prince Harry, Russell Crowe, Jack Nicholson, Andy Garcia and (obviously) Sean Penn.

I nipped outside a memorial service once for a smoke, and Carrie Fisher was doing the same thing.

She was short.

We didn’t talk much, because a lot of professional autograph seekers lined up, with stuff for her to sign.

I quit smoking 10 years ago. I really miss it. I also feel like I was a lot more fun & relaxed when I was a smoker. I also miss those spontaneous conversations you would have with other smokers.

One of the worst things was when I would get drunk and bum a cigarette and it would be a menthol. It tasted so disgusting!

I have emphysema, it aint fun.

do not smoke, gurls….

I'm surprised when I see younger and seemingly health conscious celebrities are smokers. It shows the the power that nicotine addiction has on some people.

I was fortunate enough to decide to quit cold turkey one day on impulse when I was 23. I haven't put a cigarette to my lips since, and that's over 30 years now. Best decision I ever made. Two friends of mine who said they were going to quit back when I did..... but they still smoke today. One has emphysema (and still smokes) and the other has lost all his teeth.

is it unhealthy to just use patches? Are there any negative side effects to that? The concentration and appetite suppression are appealing.

R99, pretending to smoke for a video is nothing. This is Babs between takes getting her nicotine. And of course she lies about it and claims she was never a smoker. Btw, ALL of the old time vocalists smoked.

R167 Babs looks sexy holding that cigarette!

This one is better

Barbra used to smoke weed though, didn’t she?

R152 Nobody bummed cigarettes off me in high school because they all hated menthols, which is what I smoked.

many of us STARTED on menthol honey

newports!

R132 I bet you went to school in North Carolina.

Cole Sprouse is always with a cigarette, and I believe his twin brother Dylan vapes.

They’re only 28, which is surprising. I thought people under 30 didn’t smoke at all.

In college, my friend used to keep her regular cigarettes in a menthol box in order to put off people who'd ask to bum one from her. They'd see her take out a pack of menthols and say never mind.

For some people it's very difficult to quit smoking. A good friend of mine claimed he was going to quit over 25 years ago, and he's still smoking today. To be fair he cut down from 20 cigs a day to about 8, so that's a positive step, but to not be able to quit when you're now in your fifties doesn't hold out much hope, until perhaps you're diagnosed with a serious or terminal illness, and then it's too late.

176 posts and no one's mentioned me? ME?!?

To those of you claiming Laura Bush chain smoked in the White House.

From Laura's book, “Spoken From the Heart,”

[quote] “I did smoke,” she said, adding that her last cigarette was a long time ago. “I wrote about that in the book a lot and how, when I became a public librarian at Houston Public Library, I read every single book about how to quit smoking, and it helped. And finally I was able to quit smoking. But it’s hard.”

Paloma Picasso

Anne Hathaway

Katherine Heigel

Ellen Pompeo

Logan Lerman has smoked on-screen. I don't know if he's a smoker though. Probably smokes weed, but not tobacco.

Camilla Cornwall still smokes. To please Charles, she doesn't smoke in any of the royal residences. When she divorced Andrew Parker- Bowles, Charles bought a house called "Ray Mill" for her near Highgrove and she still owns it and is used by her family as a country retreat. Camilla goes there frequently to spend time with her children and grandchildren and when she's staying there, she does smoke.

Doesn't Ellen smoke when she drinks?

Is smoking or sun damage worse for the skin?

[quote] But no one in the middle — middle/upper middle class — smokes anymore.

Or so you think, R63. People lie and conceal smoking, especially minor smoking habits (< half a pack a day).

R184 the only people I know who are still habitual daily tobacco smokers are all UMC, except for trashy LC father. Do you know how much cigarettes cost, these days? Even the posho smokers use roll-ups and buy cheaper brands, nowadays.

Getting back to the "surprising" angle, I was quite surprised to learn that Larry Bird smoked in the off-season. He'd go home to French Lick, Indiana and smoke while he trained. He was one of the top players in the NBA at that time.

[bold]ALL[/bold] of them smoke. That's how they stay thin.

It's not really THAT surprising.

R187 Hungry becomes hangry quite quickly. I think the fags keep many of them on an even keel, and less bitchy. Imagine hangry AND a nicotine fit; not pretty.

R187 Hungry becomes hangry quite quickly. I think the fags keep many of them on an even keel, and less bitchy. Imagine hangry AND a nicotine fit; not pretty.

Mackenzie Ziegler smokes, to the consternation of Abby.

Jennifer Aniston owns this thread.

I often wonder where the old poster went who affectionately called her "Jennifer Anacin". Though I don't mind her, I always had a good laugh at that one.

Whooa dude.

Seann, sadly.

[quote]I don't care who smokes and I can't stand it when people talk about smokers in a concerned, superior or judgmental way.

I always think "don't be so smug because you never know what could happen to you tomorrow." I can't even count the number of people I've known throughout my life who did everything right and still got cancer, heart disease etc.

The most famous celebrity smoker of all time...

I never even tried one. Not being righteous, but I always thought it looked pretty trashy.

Who are you calling trashy r197?

Nicole Kidman smoked like a chimney for years, don't know if she still does.

Celebrities I've seen with cigarettes in their hands:

Russell Tovey (heavy smoker apparently)

Bill Skarsgard

Gustaf Skarsgard

Dominic Purcell

Joel Kinnaman

R183, I would list it as drinking, then sun, then smoking. Heavy drinkers age the absolute worst. They also tend to smoke, so it's probably correlated.

I was "quitting" for 10 years. I finally swapped out cigarettes for Swedish snus when I turned 40, and it has done wonders. Still not healthy, but way better than breathing in smoke.

6+ years of quitting smoking. Regardless of what you think, being a smoker limits who will be attracted to you. No one wants to kiss an ashtray. I still crave cigarettes, but I also realize the freedom I have from not smoking.

Aaron Carter is visibly smoking in recent photos and on social media..

Not surprising r203.

Audrey Hepburn was a nicky addict. Smoked 3 packs a day from age 14. Kept her anorexic...uh, thin.

3 packs a day R205? How? How many in a pack? 20? 25?

I don't believe that for a second. You would literally have to smoke one after the other all the time you are awake to get through 3 packs a day which is 60 - 70 cigarettes.

R206, I don't know what brand AH smoked, but American brands are 20 to a pack, so that's 60 day. Assuming you're awake 16 hours, that would be 1 cig every 15-20 minutes. Modern 100 mm length cigs take about 6 or7 minutes to smoke. So, yeah, given that there would be stretches of time when she couldn't smoke, she must have been chain-smoking the rest of the time. Even in the smoke-happy '50s and '60s, that's a lot of cigarettes.

I usually smoked two or three packs of Marlboros every day when I smoked—never fewer than two and often more than three. People smoked everywhere in the '60s through the mid-'80s. I've never researched it, but it seemed as if most people smoked.

[quote] swapped out cigarettes for Swedish snus when I turned 40, and it has done wonders. Still not healthy, but way better than breathing in smoke.

Well, if it isn’t my disappointing son.

I hope this list isn't true.

R206, you're naive to say the least. Many stars back then smoked 2-3, even FOUR packs a day. Even people you would think were athletic, like dancers Fred Astaire, Ann Miller and Donald O'Connor were heavy smokers.

Bette Davis smoked 4-5 packs a day, even AFTER she had strokes and was diagnosed with breast cancer. That's an addict for sure.

Maybe Hepburn didn't smoke exactly 3 packs/day, but it's well known she was a heavy smoker.

Have you ever smoked R211? They must have felt deathly sick all the time. They would have felt so nauseous they would have had no appetite, bad headaches, dizziness and their teeth would have all fallen out. Or did they not inhale the smoke and just held the cigarettes in their hands as props?

Bette Davis smoking 4-5 packs a day is ridiculous. Yes she was a heavy smoker but she would literally have to be chain smoking one cigarette after the other including when she was in the shower, on camera, travelling, in bed, everywhere - no breaks - just smoking. I think it's just an urban myth. Yes I know that most stars were heavy smokers. They are now too.

But there's heavy smoking and then there's just making shit up. 30 or 40 a day I could believe but not 80 to 100 cigarettes a day. They would have no time to do anything else except smoke.

R212, I had an aunt who would literally light another cigarette before she would finish the one she was working on so she could instantly go to the next one.

R213 my last boss would do that, as well. She is in her 50s, with skin like crumpled up tracing paper and fingers the colour of tea spilt on a goldenrod carpet. Plus she smelled so stale, and left wet ashes smeared all over crockery and paperwork and countertops wherever she went. All this matches her disgusting personality well.

Jonathan Rhys-Meyers, tragically.

Why anyone would besmirch the gift of ethereal beauty in this way, I cannot understand. Perhaps it’s a curse to live with, in a way most of us cannot understand.

Rod Serling smoked 3 or 4 packs a day, probably Camels or Pall Malls. He died at 53.

I smoked for 20 years and can't imagine smoking 2 packs per day, much less 3 packs. How does one find the time?

You must be young, r217. When I was in my 20s, everyone smoked at work. I smoked two cartons a week, which breaks down to almost three packs a day.

Bette Davis was already pretty old when she had the strokes and mastectomy, she probably figured she might as well continue to smoke because she didn't have that much time left anyway.

BTW, those strokes were caused by alcohol withdrawal when she was still in the hospital recovering from the mastectomy.

Shirley Temple OWNS THIS THREAD.

Colton!

Saw an interview where Bette Davis claimed she never inhaled.

My mother, also a narcissist if that matters - "pretended" to smoke - too stupid to learn how. Narcissists do a lot of pretending - to be smart, to be dominant, etc etc... why am I off on this.

Please let January 20 hurry up and get here.

Oh -- I smoked for 20 years but only when I was drinking - and/or with other people who smoked/drank. It was a dual addiction. A drink without a cigarette would put me to sleep, after one - a cigarette without a drink made me feel dizzy and sick. But put the two together: heaven. The rush from the cigarette counteracts the depressant affect of the alcohol.