Yoko Ono

I personally think she's fabulous, though I know she isn't for everyone. She certainly brings out the misogyny, though.

R1 Die, Cunt!

She came from a wealthy family. Why she latched on to John Lennon is a mystery.

She married well.

She's a great artist in her own right.

R3 Her family lost all their money during the war...they ended-up destitute.

R5 if you’re into sitars and the sound of back alley cats fucking.

I saw her most recent "art" retrospective at MoMA and it was GARBAGE. I have nothing against the woman, I wasn't even alive during all that Beatles drama and couldn't care less about any of that -- what I do care about is how DUMB her art was. Just derivative and unmemorable dreck.

Her 'Cut Piece' is one of the most influential artworks of the 1960s.

She’s horrible.

What do Yoko Ono and an Ethiopian have in common?

They both live off dead Beatles.

John Lennon climbed up a ladder at her art show, saw the word "Yes" up there on the ceiling and fell in love with Yoko.

Maybe he liked that she agreed to pose full-frontal with him, too.

R9 is totally correct...her early performance stuff, like Cut Piece, was way ahead of her contemporaries, and really cutting-edge stuff at the time. But I think after she met Lennon, everything became less about art, and more about image. I think her more recent attempts at artistry are garbage.

I’ll never forgive her for breaking up The Monkees.

Conniving and creepy. And her songs sound like shit.

Mark David Chapman shot the wrong person.

A sample of her "singing"

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Its her latest performance piece, Screaming Cunt.

Yoko had to “make” conceptual art because she had no ability to draw, paint, sculpt or otherwise create anything.

There's nothing in OP's link about her wealth.

OP' - lazy fat whore

Lots of her net worth is tied up in Dakota real estate. She's the largest single owner of space in that building, at last count, 5 distinct apartments.

For how she treated Julian alone, she's a vile witch.

she would have zero if not for latching onto mr john lennon……..dam shame

From her online biography:

Yoko Ono (whose first name translates to "ocean child") was born on February 18, 1933 in Tokyo, the eldest of three children born to Eisuke and Isoko, a wealthy aristocratic family. Her father was a frustrated pianist who held degrees from Tokyo universities in mathematics and economics. In 1935 he became head of a Japanese bank in San Francisco, as a result he did not meet Yoko until she was two years old, since she stayed behind in Tokyo with her mother.

When Yoko was 18, her father was appointed president of a bank in New York as the family settled in the affluent suburb of Scarsdale, N.Y. Attending the prestigious Sarah Lawrence College in New York, Yoko dropped out to elope with her first husband, Toshi Ichiyanagi. It was while living in New York's artsy Greenwich Village that Yoko discovered the world of avant-garde artists. Once absorbed in the scene,she began her life long association with art beginning with informal events then segueing into poetry while developing her fascination for conceptual pieces. Alienated as an "artistic radical" for years her work was ridiculed or ignored. That began to change once she began her working relationship with American jazz musician/film producer Anthony Cox, the man who would eventually become her second husband.

The rest at the link.

I'm not a huge fan of her music, but occasionally, she's released something quite compelling. This song is fantastic.

Well, John didn’t want to be a grown-up so....Yoko

Her lack of talent can be seen in living color when John Lennon performed "Memphis Tennessee" with Chuck Berry in the link. Her addition to the song sounded like a jungle animal's mating call. The expression on Chuck Berry's face is priceless!

Was that Jerry Ruben playing bongos?

Yoko's art/music is migraine inducing, but she certainly paid for hooking up with anorexic heroin addict Lennon. She held her dope better than he did, but their life together was not a pretty thing.

Is she still riding the white horse?

OP - you're walking on thin ice.

God, she's only 5 years younger than Capucine who's been gone 3 decades.

She was also a shitty mother.

R32 - on the other hand, she's younger than Olivia Mary de Havilland.

odorono

Why do people hate her so much? Because she 'manipulated' John 'wife beater' Lennon?

DL QUEENS- Who is worse ? Yoko Ono or Mia Farrow

BECAUSE SHE BROKE UP THE BEATLES.

It always tickles me how she drove Paul McCartney nuts by referring to the Beatles as "Beatles." "I was in New York when Beatles were in Hamburg...." What a piece of work.

Walking On Thin Ice is hot stuff, and its history (final mix was completed the day John died) makes it even more compelling.

She's 87 years old.

For Christ's sake, show some respect for your elders' elder.

I think that the $600million estimate is pretty conservative considering Paul McCartney is worth about $1.25 Billion.

Good article here explaining why she is probably much richer than internet estimates say.

[quote]Why do people hate her so much?

Look at r27's video and get back to us. People hate her because she inserted her no-talent ass in where it didn't belong.

Yoko is 87 years old. If John Lennon was still alive he'd be married to an OLD WOMAN.

Meghan Markle is the Yoko of the Royal Family. The same bizarre levels of confidence too.

Wing sounds much, much better than Yoko. Wing has some talent.

[43], that just made me laugh. What the hell was she thinking?

She suffers from dementia.

walking on thin ice - - - which proves she's a C grade Debby Harry or a B grade Lena Lovitch

Lena- My lucky numbers 1

Lene “New Toy” Lovich is tremendous.

[quote]What the hell was she thinking?

That her untalented ass was as good as Chuck Berry and John Lennon.

That Art Show screaming sounds as if one was being raped by Sasquatch.

John Lennon promoted this. Not the best judgment.

Cunt? Maybe! Talentless? No!

Talentless, yes!

She was basically a crazed groupy who wore down Lennon's defenses. Linda Eastman McCartney was rather similar in her way.

Yoko had no musical talent and drove a wedge between Lennon and his bandmates. they probably would have broken up eventually but she certainly hastened it.

When Lennon was shot, it was not considered impolite to ask "Why not Yoko?". She seems to have gotten rehabbed mostly because she did not become an obnoxious presence after Lennon's death. Her laughable primal screaming is viewed by some contemporary media writers as a predecessor to punk, although don't recall punkers viewing her as an influence. the early years of punk overlapped when she was still considered a musical persona non grata.

[quote]She seems to have gotten rehabbed mostly because she did not become an obnoxious presence after Lennon's death.

Did she push for the Imagine mosaic and Strawberry Fields in Central Park or was that someone else? I always thought that was wrong because there are people who made more impact on NYC than just buying expensive real estate and those people should be honored.

Liverpool renamed their Airport after John Lennon despite him not having lived there for almost 20 years before his death. It did take them 21 years to do it though.

Jane Asher said that when she first met The Beatles, all four immediately proposed to her. So Yoko was nothing but sloppy seconds.

R27 I read somewhere that at some point in that “performance “ her microphone was turned off. Thank god.

Enola Gay drop the bomb in the wrong place.

Why is there not an Elvis Presley airport in the US?

John Lennon was brilliant.

And also an asshole.

The two go hand in hand

“Ai Ai Ai!!! Wa wa wa!!! Oo oo oo!” “You go now!”

Gold digging is a talent.

I'm a big fan of Yoko. Music and art.

R49, The Pet Shop Boys' electro remix is much more palatable.

R3 - because he was white and she is self-hating.

She IS a talentless cunt. I don’t think there is anything misogynistic about saying this. She screwed Julian Lennon out of so much. She is a disgusting person. John was no better. He had talent, but he was a garbage human being.

Fuck this horrendous cunt.

[quote]She screwed Julian Lennon out of so much.

Meh. Julian got a song out of it.

Upthread someone mentioned she owns 5 apartments in the Dakotas. Are they 5 apts joined together with the walls knocked out or 5 separate dwellings?

She looks like Joan Crawford in OP's pic--bit not the glamorous Joan but the garish, end-of-life Joan with the big brows and foot-wide mouth.

"JULIAN! Bring me the AROOOOOOOKNUCKKNUCKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"

Because of Yoko, John got stuck doing all those juvenile anthems like Power To The People, Give Peace A Chance and that maudlin piece of dreck, Imagine. What a waste of talent.

I love her. May she live for another 87 years.

[quote]Her laughable primal screaming is viewed by some contemporary media writers as a predecessor to punk, although don't recall punkers viewing her as an influence. the early years of punk overlapped when she was still considered a musical persona non grata.

She definitely became a respected figure in the post-punk/alternative world. The B-52's and Galaxie 500 (and many others) covered her, bands like Sonic Youth paid tribute to (and collaborated with) her. It was basically made official when Rykodisc gave her catalogue a lavish reissue in the early 90s. A lot of it still an acquired taste, but the "Walking on Thin Ice" compilation they distilled from it was surprisingly solid.

Yoko Crappo.

Between My Head and the Sky (2009) is a good album. As is Approximately Infinite Universe (1973).

John was a big grown up man when he got with Yoko. She no sorceress or emasculating bitch. John was a mess, for years. Yoko probably changed his diapers - he was a broken recluse.

Don't get the hate and misunderstanding about Yoko.

[quote]Don't get the hate and misunderstanding about Yoko.

ONCE AGAIN, please review the video at r27.

Just to put it into context. John Lennon's idol was Chuck Berry. When John finally got to sing with his idol, what do we get? His weird ass girlfriend messing up the song with owl imitations.

John knew what Yoko would do. If he didn't want it to happen he wouldn't have put her on the stage. Yoko had avant garde art cred. That's what she was and is about. It certainly doesn't belong in that song with Chuck but they should not have let her on the stage. See does interesting things with her voice on her albums. Its an acquired taste. It's easy to low brow it and say all avant garde art is shit. But if you don't like it, doesn't mean you have to hate her.

600 million?

The widow of one the biggest selling song writing teams of all time?

Her worth has got to be several hundred million more.

[quote]His weird ass girlfriend messing up the song with owl imitations.

The clip is from 1972 (as stated in the title). John & Yoko were married on March 20, 1969. She wasn't just his "weird ass girlfriend" by that point.

Much like Jane Fonda, it's always amazed me that people still have such animosity for Yoko all these years later. From my Gen X perspective, she was a funny and interesting provocateur. If John was so worried about her embarrassing one of his idols, there was no reason for him to drag her along. There's a reason he was attracted to her.

She's a complex person. I'm going out (far!) on a limb, even though she has treated Julian like shit (unforgivably), there are things I like about her. She is immensely strong having survived the horrors of WW2 and seeing her husband murdered right in front of her. She could have gone crazy and fell into substance abuse to cope with PTSD but she carried on instead.

[quote] I think that the $600million estimate is pretty conservative considering Paul McCartney is worth about $1.25 Billion.

Paul had a solo career that was more successful and went on four decades longer than John’s.... he continues to pack arenas and stadiums despite his voice going... he owns a publishing company that has the rights to hundreds of classic songs by other songwriters....

I find it funny how people act like she can't sing yet they think whiny indie guys and metal screaming sound better. She really brings out the misogyny and hatred in people.

I found a copy of her art book 'Grapefruit' in a used bookstore a few years ago and picked it up. It's a fun, strange little work. There are poems, drawings, and mostly performance art 'instructions' to get you to perform them at home. Would be fun to take into a childrens drama class or something and see how they interpret them.

Another punk tribute to her was Hole's '20 Years in the Dakota', with Courtney Love referencing the misogynistic reaction to her time with The Beatles and suggesting Yoko herself had been trapped by her reputation:

"She spent twenty years like a virus

They want to burn the witches inside us

Well you, you don't fuck with the fabulous four

Or you spend the rest of your life

Picking things up off the floor."

Sorry, but I like her.

Yoko NoNo.

$600 million dollars is a nice number, but I'd prefer $4 billion plus instead. There's a lot I want to do.

R86, while I always knew that Paul was far and away the most-successful of the Beatles post-breakup (what, 9 number one songs?), the others surprised me. George was next with 3 chart-toppers, while John was tied with Ringo (!) at two.

R86, while I always knew that Paul was far and away the most-successful of the Beatles post-breakup (what, 9 number one songs?), the others surprised me. George was next with 3 chart-toppers, while John was tied with Ringo (!) at two.

But Ringo had/has the biggest fattest cock of the 4!

SAD LAST DAYS

I hope she gets well soon. Love her.

I wonder how she got along with Lauren Bacall. Did they hate each other?

When my sister first moved to NYC, she worked a night shift at a hotel. She would go for a run after work, and would often jog in Central Park. She told me how, one morning, she was running in an out of the way area of the Park, turned to the left, and found herself face to face with Yoko Ono. Yoko Ono saw my 5'1" petite sister, who was definitely no physical threat, and promptly went and hid behind a bush. I always thought that was so weird.

Well, R98, her husband was murdered by a harmless looking autograph seeker and she still gets death threats. So, it's understandable that she was spooked by someone getting in her face.

R78 Sonic Youth and everything after it is derivative shit, including Hole R88, which is not Punk. Post-punks had no interest in this talentless, self-indulgent Boomer hag.

"She came from a wealthy family. Why she latched on to John Lennon is a mystery."

There's not mystery to that. She was married to Tony Cox. They were struggling financially. Lennon had attended an art show that showed some of her stuff and was intrigued by it. Cox told Yoko that maybe Lennon would be a good prospect for giving them money for their so-called art projects. She then laid siege to Lennon, hanging around his house, sending him bizarre objects (one was a Kotex box containing a broken teacup smeared with red paint) and even threatening suicide: "if you don't support me, that's it! I'll kill myself!" She flung herself into a limo containing Lennon and his wife Cynthia, throwing herself between them. It was her mission to gain possession of John Lennon. It's easy to understand why; he was a means to what she coveted most: money and fame.

His attraction to her was understandable, too. Here was this woman, this very strange woman artist, albeit a not very talented one. She had a strong masculine component; she was driven, ambitious, demanding, controlling. She did outrageous things and would make a spectacle of herself. She wanted to take control of him and his life. He'd never met any woman like that before. And being the psychological mess that he was, John Lennon was besotted by all this. He wanted someone to tell him what to do. She was his "Mother."

Anyway, the relationship between John Lennon and Yoko Ono was one of pathological co-dependence. It's was very, VERY sick.

I never liked her. But about a year ago, something she Tweeted caught my attention. I was intrigued, so read through her posts and followed her. Her posts are always thoughtful, positive, and life affirming, without being self helpy. Gave me a new appreciation for her.

I misread OP's original message and thought it said "taintless."

This shocked me, because when I interviewed John Lennon for my high school paper, he mentioned that Yoko doesn't have a taint. So he could switch from the back door to the front door in a nanosecond. He asked me not to print it, so I didn't"

He also asked me not to mention the teeth in her vagina.

Yoko was born in 1933, R100. Not a boomer by any definition. And I'd be amazed if you weren't a Boomer yourself, as the only people who get this bent out of shape about Yoko Ono are usually old Beatlemaniacs who think she broke up the band.

The worst thing she did (that I’ve read was to deliberately keep John from his older son, Julian. Only a real asshole does that.

Then when John was killed, she told Julian to choose any one of John’s guitars, so he choose one that had meaning to him and she said, “oh, not that one.” All that money, real estate and all of his personal possessions and she couldn’t let his SON have the one thing he asked for?

Also, John and first wife Cynthia bought homes for two of John’s aunts, Harrie and Mimi intending for John’s two half sisters, Julia and Jacqui to inherit Harrie’s house. On the advice of his accountant, John never put the houses in his aunts’ names. When he died, Ono kicked out the family and sold the houses.

She is the very definition of grasping, the ultimate consumer. Hideous old fraud.

All the violence she's witnessed (firebombing of Tokyo and John's assassination) and she is still positive about life and humanity.

Oh, she DID offer Julian a coffee cup with one of John’s drawings on it.

She out his drawings on all kinds of cheap shit, mugs, neckties..:all for a buck.

And she had ugly tits.

And you OP? A dumb troll!

R 101 I said that in one line.

Does Sean get it all when she croaks, or will she leave it to some dumb foundation?

I imagine she might leave something to charity but probably Sean and Kyoko will get everything else. Julian will get nothing. I can understand his bitterness.

About those nude photos of John and Yoko. She said they were "art." Pretty shitty art, I would say. John tried to justify their private parts hanging out for the world to see by saying the photos were just an attempt for fans to "share" in the beautiful love he and Yoko had for each other. "Share" in their love by looking at ugly nude pictures of them? John said they would have made themselves look much more attractive and sexier in the photos, but wanted them to be an non-fake as possible. But even airbrushed they still would have looked gross.

I would put my money on Sean and Kyoko.

Imagine being so hateful and jealous of your spouse’s ex that you deliberately hurt her child...who is also the child of the man you supposedly love.

Straights and their needy fraus....

R113 John’s body is quite nice, long and lean and slightly feminine. These photos must’ve been taken prior to their heroin use.

It’s amazing to see photos of him before he died and realize he was just 40. He really looked older, and so gaunt.

I went to one of her museum shows. It actually wasn’t bad. The only part I remember was a phone in one corner. You said something into it and see if she picked up. Walking on Thin Ice is a good song when she’s not the one singing it. She has some talent, but considering how many truly gifted artists are starving and how she’s been hoarding her fortune instead of doing good with it , she won’t be much of a loss. And John was no intellectual. He had the talent, but she had the brains.

Julian and Sean appear to be close. I really hope Sean splits his inheritance with Julian after Yoko eventually dies. It's only fair.

As someone who never really knew shit about the Beatles and fuck all of Yoko Ono....I would consider R108 art...Not even excited about the nudity but the image crystallized in history. A great photo to an interesting tale of the late 60s/70s.

I wouldn't call a picture of two unattractive people "art" no matter how famous they were.

If Yoko Ono was really so terrified to come upon anyone in the Park, R99, why didn't she have any security detail with her? She was completely alone, and hid behind a tiny bush that did nothing to conceal her. (Think Yoko Ono hiding behind the Charlie Brown Christmas tree) My 95 pound sister would not have been a physical threat to her. Her fear is understandable, but then... don't go out alone, don't be in an out-of-the-way section of the Park, and be more mindful of the surroundings.

It almost sounds like something an incredibly introverted person would do if caught by surprise.

Or incredibly crazy.

I saw Yoko walking in the Park one day with an Asian man. I don't know who he was. People were whispering to one another, "There's Yoko Ono."

I also saw Lauren Bacall walking her dog in the Park one day. Nobody said anything. I don't know if it was that nobody knew who she was or if they were afraid if they looked at her that she would suck their soul out of their body.

Sounds to me R120, that your sister is an awful person who likes to run up to celebrities out of nowhere and startle them for shits and giggles.

Oh please, R123. My sister wasn't doing anything wrong- she was jogging in the morning in the Park, and happened to see Yoko Ono, who acted like a freak. If anything, Yoko Ono startled my sister because she was so weird looking. (She told me that it was 7:00 in the morning, and Yoko Ono was wearing all black, including a hat and very big sunglasses. Very "Don't look at me, I'm a celebrity in disguise!") Here's hoping that a naked Yoko comes to you in your dreams tonight and starts singing to you--horribly off key, as usual.

R124, So now your sister is the fashion police who owns the sidewalk at 7 a.m.? She sounds like she was stalking Yoko. Your sister is a kook. I don't blame Yoko for running into a bush to hide from her.

The sister should’ve kicked her in the cuntbone for Cynthia.

She wears those sunglasses better than Roger Stone, I'll give her that. And she doesn't look as smelly as she did in the 60s. You go, gurl!

I saw one of her exhibits at a MALBA in Buenos Aires. It was the most F***king bizarre contemporary art exhibit I have ever seen. I don't kids could have imagined some of the exhibits.

"She sounds like she was stalking Yoko. Your sister is a kook. I don't blame Yoko for running into a bush to hide from her."

You're the one who sounds like a kook. A really batshit kook.

As for Ono, dressing entirely in black and wearing huge sunglasses has been her uniform for ages. I'm sure she thinks it makes her look like the coolest artist imaginable. But it just makes her look standoffish and vaguely evil. I remember some video accompanying the Beatles song "Something" that shows the Beatles and their wives. It shows John and Yoko dressed entirely in black, with capes no less. They looked like characters out of a horror movie. Anyway, I bet Yoko Ono even sleeps dressed in black and wearing big sunglasses. I don't think she wears anything else.

Yoko was a selfish, selfish woman. One year, she made the head of Bergdorf's fur department come over on Christmas Eve so she and John could buy furs. He had to bring a pile of furs over so they could try them all on.

R129, why are you so obsessed about Yoko's clothing? Why is it your business what she wears? You AND your sister are weirdo's. What other famous people do you both stalk?

Ono she DIDN’T!

"why are you so obsessed about Yoko's clothing? Why is it your business what she wears? You AND your sister are weirdo's. What other famous people do you both stalk?"

I don't have any sisters. Nobody's obsessed with Yoko Ono's clothing. And nobody is stalking anybody, either. You're the weirdo.

"One year, she made the head of Bergdorf's fur department come over on Christmas Eve so she and John could buy furs. He had to bring a pile of furs over so they could try them all on."

And they bought them all! So much for "imagine no possessions."

Yoko is like the Asian wife in Bad Santa.

I don’t know much about her but I always associate her with the asshole she was married to.

Yeah, she and John Lennon were both awful. I loved the Beatles, but Lennon was a real prick. No wonder he and Ono clicked. They were two supremely fucked up people, and people like that are always drawn to each other like magnets.

Sean better give Julian an equal share when that old goat kicks it. But he was raised by her so probably he won’t.

Sean Lennon, god talk about an easy life. He's done nothing but live off his father's money.

John Lennon’s music brings me joy.

John Lennon's music brings me residuals.

John Lennon’s music brings me pain

I've crossed paths with Sean Lennon a few times in my life. I would not call him a happy-go-lucky person. He's got the weight of the world on him. He battles depression. He's not partying it up. He doesn't know where he fits in and doesn't have tons of confidence, especially in his music.

I have always had a soft-spot for Julian, who conversely, seems way more grounded, even as he has at times been open about his bitterness and resentment and hurt. He still has a wife and kids and has plugged along doing his own stuff. He just seems more solidly rooted on planet Earth. Sean also has anger too, but he's less clear what it's about or to whom to direct it. It's like he's in a bubble, not a fun bubble. A lonely one. He didn't get certain things growing up.

I too pray that Julian ends up with something concrete, if only symbolically, for the pain and suffering Yoko caused him. I think it's despicable what she did to Julian...and her own daughter wasn't much happier of a tale.

R143 According to Wikipedia, Julian never married or had kids...

No, Julian Lennon has never married or had children. From his interviews he does seem like a well adjusted person, but I guess that took time. He was lost and dissolute in his youth (of course he would be), but now seems like a mature and thoughtful man. I think in comparison to Sean he seems more nice and normal.

I’ve always loved this song (the whole album is good, too).

I'm glad Yoko's terrible treatment of Julian never interfered with Julian's and Sean's brotherly relationship. By all appearances, they are very close.

R145 Maybe Julian seems more normal because he was raised by a kind, unselfish woman.

John and Cynthia

I worked across the street from the Dakota in the early eighties-for about five years. I would see Yoko often and she always always had security.

[quote] Upthread someone mentioned she owns 5 apartments in the Dakotas. Are they 5 apts joined together with the walls knocked out or 5 separate dwellings?

[quote] She lives in the same sprawling nine-room apartment, on the seventh floor of The Dakota, that she once shared with John. She also keeps an adjacent unit at the West 72nd Street building for visitors, and two small one-room spaces without kitchens that she uses for staff, a source told The Post. And she has an office on the first floor that was once used by John as a recording studio.

So she has three apartments in The Dakota and two separate only bedrooms.

It always amuses me when people display such hatred towards celebrities. I never cared much for her but don't really know that much about her, but clearly John loved her and she loved John. Love and attraction can not be explained to those who don't share it, you just have to accept it.

[quote]but clearly John loved her and she loved John.

John was a co-dependent drug addict with mommy issues. Yoko knew this and used it to isolate him. Love had nothing to do with it.

No, I don't think the relationship of John Lennon and Yoko One could rightly be called "love." It could better be described as pathological co-dependence.

I wished John had dumped Yoko for May Pang. He called his time with Pang "the lost weekend" but during that time he was productive and making music, whereas with Yoko he was inert. Pang also encouraged him to establish a relationship with his son Julian. Yes, I think May Pang was good for him.

About May Pang...Yoko chose her to be John's mistress while they were separated! Pang, who worked in some capacity for them, was approached by Yoko, who told her she and John were separating and John would need a woman to look after him, so why don't you be his girlfriend? Pang was at first aghast, but she was very young and pliable. Eventually John made a violent pass at her ( guess he's gotten Yoko's permission to make his move) and Pang allowed herself to be drawn into a relationship with him. They professed love for each other and were talking about buying a house and living in it; it seemed they had a future. Then one day, after coming back from a meeting with Yoko, John told her "Yoko has allowed me to come home" and dumped her flat.Pang asked about their love for each other: "when did that stop?" And he said oh, it was ok, they could still see each other, Yoko was ok with that. He then took out some bottles of oil and made love to her, using a rose smelling oil on himself and a foul smelling one on her ("I'm supposed to rub this on you", he told her"). Then he left. She took some of the oil to a botanical store to have it analyzed and it was made up of stuff like chili powder and sulfur. The guy at the store told her "whoever gave this to you must really hate you." John's leave taking and the oil rubbing were no doubt commands from Yoko. It's been surmised that the meeting he had with her involved some kind of hypnosis treatment that subdued him to the point where he would obey Yoko without question. All of this seems very sick, doesn't it? But that was the sage of John and Yoko.

Ono didn’t tell John about Paul’s phone calls, and deliberately kept him from his teenaged son out of spite towards Cynthia Lennon. That’s not love.

John Lennon was warned by people to get bodyguards. Everybody knew that he lived in the Dakota, and his daily routine was well-publicized (he did pretty much the same things every day). They were worried for his safety - for some reason, the Beatles always attracted a lot of real whack jobs - and unfortunately he didn't listen.

Ugh, sorry! I don't know where I got the idea that Julian was a husband and/or a father. It certainly makes more sense that he would have avoided those roles. Sorry about that. Still, we all can agree that Julian is the more sane of the bunch. It seems Julian doesn't hold it against Sean that their dad was a loser and Sean's mother was vengeful, controlling and stingy.

Was John at least decent about sending child support for Julian?

R158 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

Cynthia Lennon got very little from John after their divorce. She and Julian were not well off by any means. Julian's classmates treated him with contempt because they thought he was a pampered rich boy but the poor kid and his mother were just getting by. Actually, Yoko Ono's divorce cost John more money than his own. He paid Tony Cox off, and it was more than he gave his own wife and son.

R160 The world of the heterosexual is a sick and boring life