People Magazine - Prince William's birthday

Harry, get me the axe!

She looks fat.

Sincerely hope for their sake the young princes inherit their heir genes from Middleton side of family.

Poor Prince William will be bald as a billiard ball by time he's forty.

Prince George is quite the photo hog isn't he. Always has to be the center of it.

R3 - he’d look better if he shaved his head now instead of spotting that Mr Whipple do.

Still gorgeous even with the balding.

Hi Your Royal Highness/r6!

The future king looks good no matter what. And at least he's not 300 lbs like most people around here.

Yes for the love of god he should shave his head. He would look really sexy clean bald, he has the right shaped head for it

While slow off the mark, Prince Harry's hair doesn't look long for this world either.

Wonder what he'll do then; given that wife of his, and how L.A. (like much of California) is obsessed with youth and looks I see a rug in Prince Harry's future.

William will turn out to be a very fine king.

r9

No he does not. If he shaved it all, he'd look like a "big toe."

The kids are adorable, especially Louis, such a cute toddler.

would not r12!

Awwww. George and Charlotte haven't realised if they wants to move up the line of succession they should hire assassins not strangle dad on camera.

Shaved heads are trashy. A closely trimmed fringe is sexy, but shaved heads go with tattoos, bull necks, steroid backne and pickup trucks - not a look for even a respectable middle-class man, let alone a future king.

The Prince looks fine as he is. He's pleasant-looking in an ordinary way, which is perfect for his role.

Solid future king. Harry must feel like shit these days.

That son better treasury those golden locks why he still has them!

r18 Baldness is on the maternal side isn't it? He should be fine.

George is still a-DOOR-a-BULL

He'll be very good looking for 2 years, like the rest of his family is.

[quote]shaved heads go with tattoos, bull necks, steroid backne and pickup trucks

r16:

It is interesting that I have never heard a peep of negative gossip about this man. There's nothing wrong with male pattern baldness...he would never fuck you proletarian trash anyway.

R21, when it comes to men and women choosing to look like trailer trash, you've described me perfectly. We need more Mrs. Grundy-ism, not less.

R22 There is lots of negative gossip. Lots. Info about leaks are coming out this week. Hence the William asslicking threads and negative Sussex blinds. This is just another paid BRF troll thread. And really obvious.

Prince Harry has the same hairstyle as Krusty the Clown.

r24 What leaks? He probably had an affair. But since Kate has stuck by him for the last year I doubt anyone gives a shit with everything else going on. Unless he can only get it up while wearing Klan robes.

Man, William hit the wall and how. Not only does he have horse teeth but they are quite yellow.

R24 I think about who was forwarding private Sussex info to media. I have a media source who told me that all the gossip sites and blind sites are going to be hit with multiple BRF threads over the next few days. They are always on point but time will tell. All - even the vaguely titled ones are going to be used to bash the Sussex. Look out for negative Sussex comments on what are supposed to be positive Cambridge threads. It could be all rubbish but their are already some on this thread.

Why do Americans consider the British royal family celebrities? Why do they give them celebrity treatment? Is it because they both speak essentially the same language in a slightly different accent? They ignore all other monarchies. Indian royalty, who are they? Dutch kings and queens, what is even? President of the UAE, where on what planet? It’s definitely not related to politics. It’s more like a childlike fascination with crowns and castles and things of that nature.

[quote] I think about who was forwarding private Sussex info to media

Meghan?

Oh dear, the balding head, the yellow teeth....

I love me a bald man. BRING IT!

Goerge looks like a mini me of that American, Louis Anderson.

IF Louis A. were to be breeding material in his younger days.

Charlotte should be a a dress, and something with a longer hem.

Charlotte looks like her grandmother more and more . William was a beautiful teen,granted,but I think hes perfectly hot now,just in a different way.

Long as there is something to work with in front, and no shortage of hair gel or mousse, Prince Harry will be fine...

Throw in the odd thickening products (Nioxin or whatever), and some discrete hair lightening PH's hairline may last several more years.

Of course being in LA will help Prince Harry; god knows there is no shortage of hair stylists who make their living giving male celebrities and others illusion of lush full hair; even when reality is quite different. Tammy Cruise is but a case in point, going by that hairline you'd think he was still thirty even though that was many years ago now.

Harry has had sone work done for sure .

He was gorgeous for about 5 minutes. He and Kate produce ridiculously cute and photogenic children.

That's all I got.

William always comes off as quietly masculine to my delight. I adore men who are masculine without trying to prove it. Even with the English thing,he comes off as very butch.

Harry looks terrible at R36. His face looks much longer and gaunt. Drugs?

I like that the kids are wearing normal clothes and not the 1930s cosplay they usually wear. Charlotte looks adorable.

R41

That's the Spencer family genes showing. Prince Harry favors his uncle Earl Spencer

Furthermore if you examine portraits of English royals or nobility that long face pops up fairly often.

Prince Harry's cousin (Diana's nephew) Lord Louis Spencer has similar facial features as well.

Rolls eyes at R22 and R24. Oh, and here’s a middle finger.

Henry, which is his real name, is not really a royal.

Butch. Hahahaha. I sniff a PR thread.

William seems to have an idyllic family life. The little boys are gorgeous, but all three children have these weird eye bags everyone comments on. I hope to god George someday gets braces: you never know with Brits. The Cambridges seem to be very uncomplicated people: baking makes them deeply happy.

R44, damn, now there's a snack!

R49

Louis Spencer is tall, but a bit too lean for my tastes. You can have him mate.

Many Englishmen go from rampant to stagnant seemingly overnight, so I'd get him soon if possible.

Throwing this out there for shits and giggles...

Looks like Charlotte got the bitchy Princess Margaret gene. Enjoy her now because once she hits sixteen, she's going to be a royal see you next Tuesday.

[quote]Prince Harry's cousin (Diana's nephew) Lord Louis Spencer has similar facial features as well.

You mean the smelling cookies look?

Wow, baby Louis is growing up fast! His face looks like a teenager’s.

George is looking less fey here.

He’s smiling in these pictures, but there’s still sadness in William’s eyes. It’s the same sadness that his mother had.

[quote]It’s the same sadness that his mother had.

What did she have to be sad about? She was getting fucked by James Hewitt.

Now we all have pearly white teeth for nothing since we have to cover them up with stupid face mask anyway!!!!!!!! Fuck the corona!!!!!

R29 so true, especially since many of the Continental royals are so much more accomplished. It’s because we speak the same language too, I think.

Harry looks great at r57. Wow! LA must be good for him.

[quote]he would never fuck you proletarian trash anyway.

His trashy Uncle Andrew would, especially if you are underage and female.

[quote] [R18] Baldness is on the maternal side isn't it? He should be fine.

That’s an old wive’s tale and untrue. Genes are genes. You can inherit traits from either side.

[quote]His trashy Uncle Andrew would, especially if you are underage and female.

Then he wouldn't fuck you anyway whatsoever.

R60

As stated upthread, you know MM had PH plugged into the best stylists, groomers and so forth that LA has to offer.

Prince Harry's look was all wrong for LA, if MM is going to shop him around a few changes were in order.

Give it until this time next year, PH will be rocking a more chiseled body, his suits and shirts will be Italian cut....

Why would this puzzle you, R29?

The two countries speak the same language and share close cultural and historical ties. We were originally founded as a British colony and have always been closer culturally (not necessarily politically) to Britain than to any other European country. Americans have read British literature since before there was a USA and think of writers like Dickens as part of our own cultural heritage.

Modern Americans are heavily exposed to British television, in particular British TV that focuses on the upper class and the monarchy.

In English-speaking media, the BRF is the only one that matters or that anyone pays attention to or cares about. I doubt this has changed much since 1783.

Sure Jan @r64. Meghan Markle, of the sweat stained sweater, tags hanging from her dress, busted seams on too tight clothing, and complete lack of understanding of the importance of foundation garments, is just the person to “style” Harry.

r66 has a point

William is fucking hideous now. That is an awful angle for him. He looks like his great great great great grandmother Vicky.

Looks like they are having a gay old time.

He looked better when he still had his all his hair. Kate doesn’t seem to be aging well, she is slender but that’s it. A good thing she was behind the camera.

She seems to have a good eye for photography does Kate. Any pros got an observation on her work?

Very cute - and very smart to put out casual, cute kids piling on dad rather than the typical posed portrait to deflect Smeg's criticism of how cold, unfeeling & formal they all are.

R3, I won't live to see it, but Prince George looks like he's going to follow his father in both the nose and hair situations. Remember, William was still handsome in his early twenties. Then the nose bent and dropped, and the lovely blond hair fell out.

Prince Louis will be the looker.

R29, Yes, your last sentence answered your question! At least for me, anyway. I read about Richard Lionheart in Grade 2, and became so entranced that I eventually taught British Literature (and History) as a career. Have visited the UK at least ten times.

I think we Americans harbor, however subconsciously, a tinge of regret over the Revolutionary War!

George looks like Grampa Middleton and Charlotte resembles Queen Elizabeth and a toddler Prince William. Louis is a Middleton through and through and got the best of their genes.

Louis looks like Jimmy Kimmel. George's teeth are twisted. He will be needing braces. Charlotte looks very cute.

William and Charles are strong on the Hanover genes. Charles is starting to look like George III.

Louis is a Middleton 100% - he's hair has gotten much blonder since the last photos that were released. Charlotte is adorable - those Windsor genes are going to be coming for her and George. The Sussex's upcoming book, Finding Freedom, paints the Cambridges as cold, unfeeling, and unwelcoming. We will be seeing a lot of these types of photo ops leading up to the release of the book to get ahead of any bad press.

What is George doing in the swing picture? It looks like he's doing an Elaine Stritch "I'll drink to that" imitation. Does he have a secret stash of Original Broadway Cast albums?

Well I NEVER in all my LIFE thought I’d live to see a PRINCESSE DU SANG in denim bib-and-brace short-pants overalls. Kate Middleton is an unfit mother.

There, I said it.

[quote]I hope to god George someday gets braces: you never know with Brits.

Those are just baby teeth, or one of his nannies smacks him in the mouth a lot.

Charlotte, I like her a lot. Agree that the denim overalls were kind of ... meh.

Christ, this is getting painfully obvious. It's like the Brits have turned into American Southerners with all that hugging.

It’s almost like William was never hot.

Charles is the child there. He has never ceased being the child. Harry must have really hurt him.

I see a father and son who really love each other that just happen to be Royals . Cynical bitches much ?

Christ, this is getting painfully obvious. It's like the Brits have turned into American Southerners with all that hugging.

He's practical a midget compared to William; anyway, in recent pictures, he looks happy, in spite of the big falling out with Harry. Actually, it all seems rather sweet considering that I doubt Philip was much of a hugger (unless he was trying to choke you)

I liked that the royal family didn't do a lot of PDA. I also like how the Kennedys don't cry in public.

William and Kate have seriously been working their PR game. Day and night.

The sadness in William's eyes is due to how he had to settle for Kate. He was in love with another woman, Calthorpe something or other. But these rich aristo types don't want the dull life of visiting pensioners and orphans. He had broken up with Kate but realized that his duty demanded a presentable wife who would accept that life.

English people always look so sickly.

Waity Katie wins. Now she’s like the giant cockroach queen in ALIENS, progeny just dropping out of her hoo-haa.

I’m guessing Louis is Kate’s last baby.

Apparently Kate is deeply content with her life. She doesn’t really have any outstanding ambitions. She just wants to be a good wife and mother, and so far she is succeeding.

[quote]I’m guessing Louis is Kate’s last baby.

Nope, the contract says she has to produce four. She wants those fancy tiaras when I kick it, she has to do her bit.

Do you people cry in public? Gross.

R94 could you be any more obvious. The Cambridge's really need to fire their pr team. This thread and the over the top effusive praise have a whole PR firm laughing their ass off. It's embarrassing how out of touch whoever is advising them is. As long as the Sussex are being trolled daily by professionals the positive Cambridge pr articles and threads will fail. BLM has engaged a whole lot more people who won't accept the organized cyberstalking of a half black woman. It is directly affecting how people view the BRF. And it's not going to die down. As long as the Sussex are on the recieving end of professional trolling the BRF will continue to lose public support.

R97 You are a sick, crazy person. Wow.

[quote] he had to settle for Kate. He was in love with another woman, Calthorpe something or other.

Isabella Anstruther-Gough-Calthorpe. Tall, blonde, just like his Mum and the reason he broke it off with Waity Katey back in 2007. Because Isabella was starting to make oh, all right I'll marry you noises. Then she came to her senses and decided otherwise. Isabella went on to marry Sam Branson, Mr. Virgin Airways Jr., a definite trade up.

Fun fact: Cressida Bonas, Prince Ginger's ex, is Isabella's maternal half-sister.

Whoa. There is some insanity in this thread.

R99 Get a fucking life, frau. Back to Celebitchy.

The Cambridges seem happy. The Sussexes, not so much...probably true for their respective supporters...

George may be a camera hog, R4, but he's not the one who pulls focus.

Mrs. Sam Branson (née Anstruther-Gough-Calthorpe) is very pretty. She gets to have all the fun of youth, beauty and riches without having to open a single Tesco.

That ugly bitch will never be Queen. Move it along, frau. No one cares about her.

R104 looks better than Kate

R106, TELL me about it!

I don’t know why folks think that Kate is so gorgeous. She’s actually quite common looking.

Mrs. Sam Branson (née Anstruther-Gough-Calthorpe) is very pretty.

Yes, but she's another ACTRESS; history should show us that actors/actresses don't do well in situations where they cannot be/will never "the star!!" Plus, Wills seems something of the fuddy duddy himself - though you have to know that any son of Richard Branson is bound to be wanker (even if he is a *very* rich wanker) - so who knows. But he could do much worse than Kate who, for whatever her faults, seems low key, devoted, loyal & a good mom

The Jeff Wainwright storyline was stupid.

Oops, wrong thread.

R74, Richard the Lionheart was basically French and only spent some of his childhood years in England. He probably didn't even known English.

R43, Prince George is going to look exactly like his great-uncle Spencer when he grows up.

Isabella Calthorpe is very pretty - always was, still is - but honestly, Kate seems like a much better fit for both William and her role in the royal family. She absolutely wanted this and that's important, otherwise it's just another woman unhappy and trapped in her royal duty. So good looks alone aren't worth much in this and for how well Kate seems to do her duty, she's also fine looking. Not actress pretty like Isabella Calthorpe, but presentable and attractive. And obviously Kate and William produce adorable offspring, so I'd say it's a win win situation.

Isabella Anstruther-Gough-Calthorpe-Branson has the classic English Rose look whereas Kate’s look is a bit more Gypsy.

R115-- Does not matter what Kate looks like. She's a future Queen Consort and the mother of a future Monarch

She is still as plain as a white wall. And just as flat.

And doesn’t age well

Kate is better than most of the royal family - pretty and slim.

Kate has ugly immigrant hands and feet.

Louis is a good-looking kid. All the privileges, none of the responsibility.

This will not end well.

I suppose Markle was busy with Black Lives Matter, her new book, putting out the fire from the Jessica Mulroney scandal, redecorating her squatter's home and guarding her privacy by shooing away the paparazzi...

However, why wasn't she out the taking a few photos of Harry and Archie on Father's Day to release to her chosen, anointed media pals? Markle is falling off her game. Image is everything. You should know that by now, doll.

Queen Catherine.

No one ever has to curtsy to this Calthorpe bitch. Next.

[quote] Isabella Anstruther-Gough-Calthorpe

What's with all those last names? The brits are such morons. So this woman had 3 relatives who made something of themselves and the rest of the family wants the entire world to know they are related to these 3 successful people, so they use all 3 last names.

I guess it's supposed to impress people or more likely, help avoid the fact that these people are fucking useless in their own right.

Hi, I'm Isabella Never Accomplished a fucking thing in my life

Isabella My relatives were famous, I've had every advantage in life and still haven't accomplished anything

R112, Nevertheless, he was Richard I, Crusader King of England. And as I said, I was but a child (second grade, reading "A Child's History of the World"), and, like a baby duck, became quite imprinted with Everything British.

And I have been to Fontevraud Abbey, so......

R105 I am sure the same was said about Camilla in 1989 LOL

why wasn't she out the taking a few photos of Harry and Archie on Father's Day

I was thinking that too; even if he wanted to protect the kid's privacy, you think he'd post a couple of old snaps of Harry with Charles - since he is the one that bankrolls their life & all. In all seriousness, Harry's absence & Smeg's mother (supposedly) moving in makes one wonder if perhaps he really has gone off the rails.

What has Kate accomplished? Sitting around to be at the beck and call for some entitled twat like William. Such female empowerment - SAID NO ONE, EVER!

R129 Being an anorexic bore.

I adore Kate.

I just don’t like the huge teeth and liplessness of Middleton. She and William must just bang teeth together when they are feeling romantic.

What r114 said.

Kate is that singular creature I call Frau-us Apex.

She sits atop the summit, above the masses of Frau-us Pedestrianus; most of whom look at her with some degree of awe, admiration and a bit of envy.

She's conventionally pretty. She has a tall, rail-thin body body that lends her Royal gowns that perfect drape. Publicly, and in carrying out her duties, she'll never allow a word past her lips that even could be remotely perceived as controversial.

She is void of an iota of sensuality, another plus.

Who knows? In private, she may be a freak in bed with William, but the point is, in public, the last words you would apply to her is "sex symbol".

I surmise she's a real, dyed-in-the-wool snob, but, and I write this with admiration, she performs the super-human feat of seeming to be "relatable" in her public utterances and appearances, yet not for 1 second do you forget who she married and that one day she'll be Queen Consort, wife of the King of England and the Commonwealth realms.

She's perfect for the job and William is lucky to have her.

[quote] Being an anorexic bore.

Starving yourself is HARD work!

With the Queen basically retired, it's time for the whole institution to fade away

This quarantine has proven that

Ann and Sophie Wessex are the real hard workers in this family. Sophie does more than William, Kate and those york sisters put together. Sophie's been out everyday working. And none of this bullshit sitting in front of a computer and calling someone. She's out and about at homeless shelter kitchens (helping to prepare food), hospitals (helping them with supplies), all kinds of stuff.

will and kate do some computer call for 15 minutes a day. And not even every day either. lazy scroungers

I suspect William and Charles have been having discussions about a new role for the modern monarchy. I am serious. Would not surprise me at all if both Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace are permanently open to the public for tours, and simply are office complexes and museums in the future. St. James, Clarence House and a few other properties will remain as residences, Highgrove for sure, and Sandringham estates. They will let the elderly, the Kents, etc. live out their days at Kensington, then make it a public building as well. As an aside, I wonder how much longer Andrew will live. Because I am convinced that part of the reason (not all of it) that William Barr attempted to fire that U.S. attorney had something to do with the Epstein matter and Andrew's role.

I think they will definitely have to scale back on titles. HRHs only for the Monarch's children and the children of the heir. Unless fate does her twisty thing, there's no reason for Charlotte or Louis' future kids to be princesses and princesses. Edward has already done it, as his kids will have to live the life of the "average" rich aristocrat.

Take ALL the Sussex titles away.

This is why it's so brilliant that Meghan has told people she wants to run for President of the US. In which case the UK Parliament *has* to take their titles - and their money -away from them.

R130 pull out your tongue from Kate’s anus, please.

R139 that has to be a joke. This country hates women (as we've proven) and people of color (as we've proven) and she doesn't have nearly the resume or backing of an Obama or an HRC.

Governor of California...maybe. But I wouldn't vote for her.

Isabella Calthorpe is from good aristocratic stock, Waity is middle class and had ideas above her station. Wills only married her because he couldn't find anyone else willing to take on the royal role.

Megsy couldn't get elected Secretary of Tyler Perry's HOA

r142, what you describe in derisive terms recommends Kate even more for the job.

She wanted the job, learned it, and hasn't put one boring foot wrong.

Those kids are adorable. I can see the resemblance to both Middleton grandparents and even to the queen, but I can't see any Diana in any of them.

William looks very much like his paternal grandfather. And reportedly, he yells at Charles a lot, just like Philip did. It must really freak out Charles to be stuck between two bookends that look and act similar.

Isabella might have given Brits a decent looking future king/queen for once. George and grandma looking little girl will be ugly.

You can tell that R146 is just HIDEOUS.

I think George has features that suggest George VI. I think Louis favours young Prince Edward. I’d link but DL won’t let me.

Isabella Calthorpe’s “solid aristocratic stock” is a little unsolid. At least the marriages were, her mother Lady Mary having married four times and presenting various husbands with children along the way. Cressida has seven half siblings, not sure if Isabella is a full or a half. No, after their experience with another royal bride with impeccable aristocratic credentials, I cannot imagine anyone was looking for Diana 2.0. Kate Middleton might not have ticked all the boxes, but she was stable, sensible with a secure family background. Still, the Anstruther-Gough-Calthorpe clan would have made for excellent gossip!

Yes, for better or for worse, Diana ended the "must be blue blood" requirement. Love and temperament are key. No one can deny that Sophie the Commoner has been an asset to the BRF.

No, I think the Queen Mother ended the "blue blood" requirement, r150.

Although, to be fair, when they were married, Bertie was not the Heir.

The Queen Mum had a title her entire life. She may have been a lesser blue blood, but she was blue.

The Queen Mum's title prior to marriage was Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon.

Diana's title before marriage was Lady Diana Spencer.

Both nobility, but both commoners.

Della has some issues to work through.

[quote] Della has some issues to work through.

Oh, hell, r154, you don't know the half of it.

I don't know the point your not making but if it's a reaction to what I wrote at r133, here's the deal.

The existence of the BRF is inherently ridiculous. My observations relate to what are the conventions and norms that it exists by and how those are perceived.

That said, I'm an unabashed, unapologetic fan of Q E II. By far, she is my favorite famous person.

I agree 100% with what you wrote at R133, Della.

Smoooches, r156

Oh look, it's Della, talking about herself.

Again.

you know, the thing that strikes me is that some of them, like Edward, Andrew, Anne, William, start out very good looking. Even the Queen was pretty as a young woman, and then became matronly but still handsome, and even now she is a nice looking old woman for her age. But then some of the break. Anne broke. Andrew and Edward broke. and damn if William hasn't broken. You just never know. Charles was never good looking IMO. But I always liked him. He and Camilla look the best they have ever looked right now.

[quote]...still hasn’t put one foot wrong...

Ugly foot ...immigrant, grape stomping feet she has. Her hands too. She always looks pinched and wan. Even when she’s smiling. Built like Justin Bieber.

Sorry, Kate is an "immigrant", r160?

How so?

She has feet lik an immigrant

I cannot explain it, but I find Prince William so incredibly sexy. All I want to do is rip his clothes off, bend him over and...Whoa, Nellie!

I love red-haired men, but for the life of me, I do not find Prince Harry attractive.

Her sister is even more useless and even more common looking.

I agree, William is all kinds of sexy in his own right, while Harry does nothing for me in that department , but I'm sure he's sexy to some.

[quote]Her sister is even more useless and even more common looking.

Which is a running joke on The Windsors, that both of them are gypsies but Kate was able to be successful.

Talk about controlling the media. This article is so contrived that they will use it as a template in journalism school.

Charles was never good looking IMO.

He was handsome in a "british" kind of way as a younger man; but yes, it is tragic how William lost his hair, but I guess at least he isn't fat. Harry was cute as a young man, but now he just looks like "aging douche bag" to me

William was good looking as a young man. But then he grew into his Windsor face and lost his looks.

Harry was sexy before he married MM. He was cute when he smiled. Now he just looks unhappy.

Harry is the hot one. Shame this one might be king.

Neither brother was "hot".

Harry's not hot. Gingers are almost exclusively either gorgeous or goofy looking. Harry looks like Ralph Mouth from "Happy Days."

They are probably hot June through August.

Who knew that People writes positive articles about its subjects, r167?

R166 Pippa won big. time. She married a very rich man who will inherit far more money than Wills will ever see. She never has to work again, not even pretend to be making fake calls. She never has to board a normal plane, unlike her sister who has to make trips flying coach to curry favor with Britains.

While Kate can no longer sneak off to her beloved Mustique, due to increased scrutiny - Pippa can go there or anywhere in the world whenever she wants. Kate finally realizes her vacation days are behind her. No more sunbathing topless in France, fancy skiing trips, etc. She and Wills will be carefully scrutinized for every dollar they spend and for their carbon footprints.

R175 True. Pippa is the true winner. She has her own wealth and she's the best friend of the Queen-to-be. She has access to all the royal perks and none of the restrictions.

R176 They are both the embodiment of average looking nouveau riche hags but Kate at least will go down in the history books.

They are both well-bred concubines.

When Wills and Kate are on the throne, they will confer titles on all the Middletons and Pippa and her husband too. If he doesn't already have some title. But yes, Pippa hit the jackpot. Carol must be SO pleased. She and Michael did well for two flight attendants. No retirement worries. Hell they could squat in a castle and no one would notice.

The real winner is son James Middleton. Now that his sisters are financially set for life, he can expect to inherit most of the family fortune and/or otherwise benefit from his parents generosity.

R179 that is a complete fantasy regarding the future King William and his consort conferring titles on his in-laws. It just doesn’t work that way.

Don’t make stuff up - it only makes you look stupid.

R180 while the Middletons are undoubtedly quite close, who the hell wants to be the Rob Kardashian of the family? Nothing of your own, just hanging on the family. Has to be somewhat embarrassing.

[quote] When Wills and Kate are on the throne, they will confer titles on all the Middletons

What are you supposition basing this upon? I'm not saying it won't happen, but there's just been no precedent for a king being married to a non-aristocrat (at least) in England since the War of the Roses.

Did the kings of other European countries who married commoners in the last fifty years (like Carl Gustav of Sweden and Felipe of Spain) ennoble their wives' relatives?

[quote] while the Middletons are undoubtedly quite close, who the hell wants to be the Rob Kardashian of the family? Nothing of your own, just hanging on the family. Has to be somewhat embarrassing.

You'd be surprised at the benefits!

R144, Except for those no-underwear times.

Diana was blue-blooded aristocracy, more English than the "Windsors."

Oh hell. Henry VIII conferred all kinds of titles and honors on the Boleyns and the Howards . Then after he beheaded Anne, he did the same for the Seymours. All of them were minor nobles with the exception of Norfolk. And if I'm not mistaken didn't Elizabeth Bowes Lyon's family get a bit of elevation from her marriage to Bertie? In fact I think titles have been offered to the Middletons who have wisely turned them down...for now.

[quote]Pippa is the true winner.

Not really. She will still have to curtsy to her sister. Curtsy being showing humiliation that you don't have a right to be in someone's presence.

Such a fine looking family. Good to know they'll always have a roof over their head, plenty of food to eat and plenty of money in their pockets.

Think of it this way; Pippa stands the chance of being traded in for a younger model & losing her social standing while Kate will *always* be the mother to the future King so even if Wills screws around her, she's a made woman. Agreed, I wouldn't want to be James, the Rob Kardashian of the family. Plus, Pippa is related to those annoying attention whores Spencer & Vogue Williams

Chuck absolutely revels in being a privileged royal. I don't see him scaling down the monarchy at all after Mumsie passes, at least not as it would affect him personally. And whoever said William looks like Prince Phillip is BLIND. He is very much the image of his sainted mother.

No way will Wills and Kate give her relatives titles. Not in the current political climate when the very idea of royalty and aristocracy is being called into question.

Nah Kate has a very "girl next door" pretty like a darker haired Doris Day. Let me put it this way...if EVEN Rock Hudson liked her, every man will say "good enough...nice girl" and not be offended. She lacks any bitch vibe and that is rare. She offends nobody and is not a subject for scandal. To be fair she has a beautiful smile and very pretty large green eyes, toned legs, and silky hair but she kind of doesn't worry too much because she is a more sporty, milk-fed type.

Please...Kate is plain and dull. Her calves are larger than her thighs. Sporty and milk fed hahahahaha

R192, royalty isn't being called into question but why would William want to give Catherine's parents and siblings titles anyway? It's not as though they're suddenly going to become working royals.

England's politics is no longer based on aristocratic factions battling it out with each other. It would be ludicrous to think that Kate's family would be given titles. Wills is not Edward IV, (who actually kept his good looks until a few years before his death) trying to build his faction so that his kingship would survive.

In fact, Wills will be lucky to be king, as the monarchy might not survive the reign of Charles (who may very well live long into his nineties, like ma and pa.

The Middletons will never have titles. That would be ludicrous. But they may in old age move in to a royal property.

I'd take James Middleton over Will or Harry. Harry is not attractive let alone hot, and his dumbness and attention whoring just negates whatever mitigating traits he had.

James Middleton is a douche.

I hate Harry’s toilet brush beard. He had a nice face. If you have a nice face, let people see it.

R200, you sound like my grandmother. But the both of you are right

R196, I don’t know why people think that the monarchy will fall after Elizabeth dies. England has had multiple chances to get rid of the institution for good, and didn’t take them.

It's hard to know what life will look like in a post-COVID world, but I don't see the Brits kicking Diana's son to the curb as king. I could see over time the role evolving into something similar to Sweden or something like that. While Brits adore QEII - for good reason, she's a gift, they also still seem to be fond of Will & Harry, even if Harry has tried to squander all his gifts & forbearance.

Not a peep from Meg and Harry on Father’s Day because they both flipped their respective fathers the bird. LOL.

And being a father isn’t special enough to Harry to risk the comments.

William was so handsome as a teen. WTH happened.

R205 OUR GENES!!!!

The lack of Father's Day message was weird.

Maybe they just don't want to go there because they want people to forget the drama and court case involving Meghan's father?

[quote] Nothing of your own, just hanging on the family. Has to be somewhat embarrassing.

This describes nearly everyone listed in Debrett.

[quote] I don’t know why people think that the monarchy will fall after Elizabeth dies

I think it will change. I don't think William is interested in it. He'll go along for his grandmother and for his father too. But I don't know about after his father dies. I feel bad for him. He's stuck. And I can't imagine he wants that kind of life for his own kids

But this is kind of the Monarchy's own fault. They refuse to change. And it's stupid. It's 2020. Not 1620. The Queen should have retired over a decade ago.

R206 I wouldn’t blame them entirely Albert was kind of cute and they had some very good looking great grandchildren (Tatiana and Maria Romanova) I blame the frumpy black toothed fug Liz Bowes -Lyon.

Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon was hardly "frumpy" she was a much sought-after beauty who charmed everyone she met, including Bertie's famously tempermental father. She was the only member of the BRF at the time who never made him go into one of his 'rages' because she always make him laugh instead. She clearly had charisma in spades.

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[quote]Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon was hardly "frumpy" she was a much sought-after beauty

The Royal Family called her Cookie because she reminded them of a cook.

Does anyone else think that it is strange that Pippa, her child, and her husband aren't featured in any of Kate and William's family photos? I can see Pippa+ her husband being afraid of child-napping if their child is photographed, but it seems odd to me.

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r213, That is **not** what the BRF called her. That's what meangirl Wallace Simpson called her. Everyone else adored her.

No r214, it is not at all strange. Neither are Kate's parents, beyond photos of her as a child. What you see as their family photos are semi-formal official photos taken for public consumption on special events. They're not meant to include Kate's family or even William's, beyond specific individuals.

Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon was a nasty, bigoted cunt. She also had rotten teeth. Her breath must’ve been stinky. And she was no beauty.

Hi, Meghan!

I think the British Monarchy will definitely go the way of Sweden and the Netherlands, Spain, etc. But it won't be abolished. Katherine, Duchess of Cambridge is definitely going to be crowned QUEEN. That is going to happen. Nothing will prevent it. NOTHING.

I had a hilarious time trying to teach a Parisian student about the BRF. The sticking point was the Queen Mother’s teeth. The student kept saying “but she is a queen”.

She stopped brushing them after a while; all she did was consume cocktails and sweets. Ewwwww.

Well whatever she did it got her to 101 yrs. old. I didn't realize she died just two months after Margaret.

[quote]Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon was a nasty, bigoted cunt. She also had rotten teeth. Her breath must’ve been stinky. And she was no beauty.

Plus, she drank like a fish. Gin was mother's milk to her.

William's family look fantastic. The children are absurdly photogenic. Charlotte has gotten Diana's legs. Louis reeks of charm, George is quietly handsome.

Wills has a lot to thank Kate for. No one knows whether he had an affair and frankly, no one really cares. He and Kate are well on their way to being exactly the couple perfect for their future and increasingly important roles.

Harry and Meghan are the also rans. Not because they were "less than" but because they didn't have the courage to be loyal and fulfill their roles so well that the public loved them just as much.

Instead, they threw their toys out of the pram in what Inspector Clouseau would have called "a writ of fealous jage".

The long game will go to the Cambridges. No one will give f.a. about the Harkles in 20 years, when William and Kate will be King and Queen.

She was never considered a beauty, but she was lots of fun. Anyone in that kind of role had automatic charisma in those days (except poor old Bertie, who suffered by comparison with his insufferable brother, but who was sincerely loved by the people by the end of the War). Showbiz people enjoyed the QM's company, as they would later enjoy Margaret's and Diana's. The drinking like a fish was part of her charm.

You're right, R225. Harry and his wife were all set up to play Ron and Hermione to Wills and Kate's Harry and Ginny, and they probably will one day. Just not while it's THIS wife.

[quote]The drinking like a fish was part of her charm.

Yeah, charming. But you didn't have to deal with her hangovers the next day.

I bet she didn’t even wash her minge. Stank old lady.

He will make a great king.

R229 Cookie’s breath masked the stank of her cooch.

R229, she had people for that.

Because William is heir to the throne r227, and Harry isn't. He also won't make a comeback in the UK, he's burnt his bridges.

By the standards of her day, Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon was a beautiful young girl with an intensely vital and charming personality. She was also made of chrome steel inside. Bertie was nice looking, tall and athletic, but those Hanoverian genes were also in full play, and then there was the diffident persona and the stammer. His choice of a wife was the making of him.

They weren't looking at how women looked in bikinis in the early 20th century. Elizabeth had what was valued then: she was petite, charming, with huge blue eyes and an exquisite complexion that contrasted with her dark hair. She also was described by contemporaries as having a soft musical voice, and was also described as an accomplished dancer. She danced with Fred Astaire at some party or other once. Astaire, years later, danced with her daughter, QEII. He mentioned that he'd had the pleasure of dancing with her mother many years earlier. The Queen replied, "You mean, SHE danced with YOU."

The cranks talking about her cooch and calling her "Cookie" are fans of anorexic Wallis Simpson, with her masculine face and hands, braying American voice, and slutty history.

I believe the Mitford sisters referred to Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon as “Cake” in their correspondence, which I personally like better than “Cookie.” Apparently one of the sisters was at a social gathering with the Queen Mother and heard her exclaim, “Ooh, cake!” when the cake was brought out, hence the moniker.

Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon was my kind of gal. She knew to wear mink when she went to visit the bombed out houses of World War 2 East End London. People standing in the street grieving dead loved ones, all possessions gone and no place to live and she said, "I know how you feel, one of my palaces got bombed as well." Her "that worked out well for them" attitude was her trump card.

I don't know how the decision was arrived at, but during the bombing, when King George VI and Elizabeth the Queen Mother went out to see the effects and the devastation in the neighborhoods, to the homes of the ordinary people, that was it. She was forever enshrined. Don't know if this is true or apocryphal, but allegedly one of the people told the Queen to "mind her step" because she didn't want to get her clothes ruined. He commented that she was "all dressed up" and she touched his arm and said, "Well if you came over to visit me wouldn't you get dressed up?" Elizabeth Bowes Lyon had a way about her. Between her and her adorable little girls, and Princess Elizabeth dressed in a uniform and assigned as a mechanic during the war, they managed the very precarious feat of steering the public in a different direction and erasing the image of the Duke of Windsor. The Duke really resented the fact that Bertie managed so well. But it was because he had her.

Oh, Wallis was no better than Elizabeth...they were both ugly racist cunts who didn’t deserve to breathe the same air as decent people.

It is well-known that the Queen mum held grudges. I hate people who hold onto grudges for offenses, perceived or otherwise, they’re more often than not small-minded as well. She was also dumb enough to think that Wallis killed her husband prematurely because he had to take over as king. Apparently his chain smoking habit did nothing to hasten his death at all, it was all Wallis.

Wallis was a hideous woman as well. I’m not a fan of her as well. Both her and EBL were idiotic women who got accolades simply due to the men they marriec.

Scots generally hold grudges. It’s in their DNA.

The pressures and stresses of being king, particularly during WWII, probably did hasten George VI’s death.

Well I suspect that The Queen Mum 's grudge against the Windsors wasn't misplace or irrational. She probably knew more about the Duke of Windsor's involvement and his schemes with the Nazis then the rest of the world did since it was happening on her watch. And then there were the incessant phone calls and petitions from the Duke & Duchess insisting they needed more money.

Finally, to keep them from continuing to meddle in the diplomatic arena during the war, Bertie shipped them to the Bahamas. Later on as news leaked out it was explained as a kidnap plot by the Nazis required them to remove him, but it wasn't a kidnapping as far as the Duke knew, because he was going voluntarily with the understanding he'd regain his throne and his wife became queen. The strains of WW 2 and the bombings. the Blitz, etc. and Bertie's anxieties about performing his duties, probably did contribute to his early death.

Scots hold grudges, Scots are cheap, Italians are violent, Hungarians are pathologically jealous lovers, Russians are exuberant, Swedes are cold . . .

Christ, does it never end?!

George VI, like most of the Windsor men, leant toward powerful women on whom they became deeply emotionally dependent. Queen Mary was the model. Only in George VI's case, he married a far more emotionally confident women whose influence was benign and who held him together when the stress of the Abdication and then WWII arrived. In his older brother's case, the influence was malign, but Wallis and Elizabeth were two sides of one coin. But Elizabeth (despite her Scottish ancestry) was a thorough-going English patriot, devoted to the monarchy and to supporting her husband, and doing so with a charming and deeply traditionally feminine aura. Wallis, like Meghan Markle, had neither any reverence for or in-depth understanding of the monarchy or Britain and its traditions, and only valued it for the social status and wealth she craved. Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon was likely to marry well and never worry about status and money for the rest of her life, no matter whom she married. Wallis never knew Elizabeth's social and economic confidence and security whilst young.

There are quite a few interesting parallels between the respective marriages of Edward VIII and George VI, and Princes Harry and William, only the Heir and Spare roles are reversed with the latter. William, the Heir, married the patriotic, dutiful woman who respected the monarchy and understood her role; Harry, the Spare, married the divorced American climber who only valued the monarchy for the status and wealth it could give her.

Charles would have followed the pattern with Camilla, who would have been far more like the supportive Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon to his future king than the narcissistic, immature, volatile, Diana was, if only they'd let him marry her. It's quite obvious how much happier he is with Camilla after his miserable marriage to Diana, despite her youth and beauty. Tina Brown nailed Charles when she said he wanted to be mothered and mastered, neither of which Diana was capable of doing.

But his sons are throwbacks to the patterns of a couple of generations earlier.

At least the Cambridge children will be normal.

And at least William and Harry are considerably prettier than they'd have been had Charles been happily married from the start.

Russians are not exuberant; they’re some of the most negative, cynical, narrow minded people you’re ever gonna meet.

Harry may do better with his second marriage. You know there will be one.

Harry would take a divorce very hard. He is not the most stable person in the world. Now, he has a son he probably dotes on. If Meghan pulled the plug on their little family he would be distraught. In a very bad, not good place. And the whole custody thing would get very ugly. Because she would definitely use his " emotional issues" as a deal breaker insisting he would be harmful to Archie's mental health, when hashing out custody arrangements. I like Harry. And I fear for his future.

[quote]Because she would definitely use his " emotional issues" as a deal breaker insisting he would be harmful to Archie's mental health

And she would leak every detail about their lives and the divorce to the press.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Even if William "turns off the money tap", and assuming Harry survives Q E II and Charles, he'll come into more dough-ray-mee when those two die.

I don't know for sure, of course, but probably when she dies, Q E II's 7 grandchildren each will receive money and certainly Harry will come into several millions more when Charles dies.

If Harry suddenly wants out, he better think about that prospective income. I would have to believe Markle has an eye on Harry's future income, too, and what he'll receive upon the deaths of Q E II and Charles. Archie for sure will be taken care of, but, it gets interesting, upon a divorce, what settlement Markle would receive.

You are hilarious commenting on Kate's immigrant hands and debating the looks of Brits. In Europe, good looks run East to West and with their nasty horsey teeth, pasty skin, large bodies (usually obese), and overall equine proportions, the English are considered big and ugly. Even that Calthorpe girl is no Victoria's Secret material like the Czech, Ukainian, Romanian, and Russian women. Say what you will, some nations have people with pretty flawless figures. I don't see too many English Olympians tbh among the women.

Also, Princess Charlotte may look like her grandmother, but is an unpleasant and smirking child with squinty eyes. Prince George is the only beauty among those kids and Prince Louis is just baby cute.

Harry will never be poor, but I doubt he and Meg can live in the style they want on his inheritance

Harry certainly can become poor if Meghan manages to get her hands on his inheritances from the Queen and then, from Charles.

Which she will, I guarantee. After all, that's her endgame.

What I suspect you mean, r253, is that he'll always have a roof over his head.

Charlotte is going to be stunner with those legs and clearly has her mother's hair as well. The two boys are very handsome.

R254 - Meghan cannot "her her hands" on Harry's inheritance, at least not if you're thinking divorce in community property California: that law applies only to any wealth accrued by the couple after the marriage. Anything accrued by either person before the marriage is outside the community property law.

That said, I would guess that after Charles had to liquidate most of his personal investment portfolio to pay off Diana in their divorce (fear not, it has recovered many times over since then), the BRF set a few safeguards around those trust funds. Certainly, in the event of a divorce, a settlement of sorts would be reached in which Harry will have to loosen his purse strings (they do, after all, have a young child). They helped out Andrew somewhat in his divorce, and I doubt Meghan would get any more a better deal from the sixth in line than Andrew's wife did married to the fourth in line. Andrew also has a trust fund, reputedly worth about $80 million, which means his annual cash income from it is about $750,000 p.a., before taxes. He has a sweetheart lease on Royal Lodge, as well. He may not be hob-nobbing with billionaires any longer, but he's far from starving.

But as for "getting her hands" on that trust fund: I wouldn't bet on it. Divorces do have to go through a court of law, which would have the final say, and Charles would probably make good quietly behind the scenes on any real losses Harry sustained. And, as the marriage occurred in England, and Harry and Archie are British citizens, the divorce would likely be heard in England.

By all odds, Charles will leave a second trust fund to both sons. If the Queen is still alive when the divorce occurs (one sincerely hopes she will not, she will also help Harry out post-divorce.

Harry so clearly should have married Chelsy. Daughter of a very rich man and a landowner in South Africa, land of Harry's dreams (Chelsy actually loves the place, unlike Meghan Markle), with her own inheritance, Harry's life would have had all the earmarks of Heaven on Earth.

How he let that go for that vicious, jealous, barrel-shaped, stick-legged, whingeing, wig-headed, d-list actress is a mystery that will never be solved

Charles has probably already arranged for Harry's well-being. Harry probably has some kind of Trust set up and an allowance from the trust. He may not be collecting from it now, but in the event certain things happen, it would be triggered. And when Harry is gone it will revert to Archie. Charles is always going to protect Harry even from himself. I'm sure the Royal Family has learned by now to protect themselves from schemers and connivers and opportunists. Meghan may be underestimating them, if she does have some game plan.

Harry will have access to real estate. He won't be homeless. He will always have a place to live. His fate would be no worse than a 20 room apartment at Kensington, or Sandringham, or some kind of small estate. Meghan may insist on being set up "for Archie" so he can be raised with the advantages he is "entitled to."

Well as Harry’s son, he IS ENTITLED to those advantages.

R258, Archie isn't entitled to anything from the British taxpayer.

Archie will grow up a relative nobody like Peter Philips or anyone else without a title,

[quote]Archie will grow up a relative nobody like Peter Philips or anyone else without a title,

...if his mother Meghan dies. She will make sure that Archie is pushed forward and gets what belongs to him.

^^^Methinks Meghan is aiming for the Oprah angle. Oprah is childless and would be wanting some sort of legacy heirs to keep her name/ foundation going. Don’t think this hasn’t crossed Meghan’s mind. She also may be angling for a spot on Oprah’s foundation if things don’t go well with Suckass/ Archevil Foundation or whatever the fuck their calling it now.

R262, Oprah will probably leave her fortune to charity, maybe some to Stedmund's daughter, and of course Gayle's kids.

R262-- Just how stupid do you think Oprah is? Markle or Archie are not getting anything but a token (if that) from her. Oprah can spot a grifter a mile away and the only reason she is associating with Markle is because she thinks she can make a ton of money off the association

Charlotte has an ugly face. Sorry but it is true. That is one ugly little girl.

Charlotte already is a try hard and awfully smug and self satisfied for someone her age. She will become a monster as she gets older, a la her grand-auntie Margaret.

R266 - agreed. Nasty kid.

[quote] She will make sure that Archie is pushed forward and gets what belongs to him.

Which is what, exactly?

With the exception of some Sussex loons, literally NOBODY will give a fuck about Archie or his parents when George, Charlotte and Louis become teenagers. William and Kate will become Prince and Princess of Wales and they as well as their offspring will outshine all the minor royals.

"She will make sure that Archie is pushed forward and gets what belongs to him."

Archie possesses nothing and is entitled to nothing except his father's subsidiary titles right now, and his father's primary title when Harry dies IF Harry is still in possession of it when Harry dies, which I suspect may not be the case if he makes his bed in America and stays there.

The BRF owe Archie nothing, nada, zilch, zero. Anything he has, his father and mother have so far bought him with Charles' money. When Charles dies, that stops. If Archie is lucky, Charles will have left him a modest trust fund, which is by no means certain.

The Harkles don't own Frogmore Cottage, they don't own the land under it, not even Harry has the slightest legal claim on Charles' wealth, or the Queen's, and certainly not William's.

Archie will get whatever his father leaves him. Any claim to anything else is strictly in the minds of nutjobs who think that because Archie is Charles' grandson, he's automatically and legally "entitled" to something from Charles.

And not for nuthin;, if Meghan really had Archie's future interests at heart, she'd have stuck it out in the BRF so that Charles could have some real relationship with Archie.

You know - like he has with George, Charlotte, and Louis.

You can't love a grandchild you only see on a computer screen a few times a year the way you do the ones you can actually pick up and hug regularly.

Archie will be about as relevant as Princess Margaret's children.

So...not

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I don't know, R272. We still hear a lot about the York girls. Eugenie got a big wedding, and she gets to live in a very nice place for a very low rent. Their dad has a 100-year lease on the property he stays at; after he dies, both sisters can live their with their families. They probably would have preferred to be full-time royals, but it was reported that Charles nixed that, so they must work for a living. They actually have a pretty good set-up; they have access to the castles, celebs who want to be their friends because of their link to the Queen; invitations to the big royal events, but they can have their own careers, and they don't have to do the supermarket openings.

[quote] Which is what, exactly?

Same as the York Sisters. The right to be called Princess.

R273 here. In my post above, "live their" = "live there". (Oh, dear.)

R273, the York girls are in the UK and grew up here, they are also the grandchildren of the current monarch. Archie is going to be a stranger to the British public and to his father's family. It's unlikely that Archie will be an adult when his grandfather is on the throne, he'll probably still be relatively young when his uncle ascends to the throne. Then he'll be in the same position as Margaret's children.

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R267/R277 - You are insane. What has Charlotte done that is so terrible? She's like 4 years old.

R278 - I think they are saying she is unattractive and looks spoiled not that she has done anything.

I’d be so pissed off if I was entitled to be HRH Prince(ess) and my parents decided that I shouldn’t use it. Wouldn’t it be awesome if Lady Louise turns 18 and was like, Hey, I will take that royal title after all.

The one who's going to be pissed off that his parents didn't let him have the full royal experience is Archie.

To the ones saying Kate has no sexuality, you don't know that. She seems happy and always smiling. I had a similar colleague attorney lady like her, who we later found out was having affairs all the time, but she was so prim and proper none of us suspected that is what led to her divorce.

That little boy looks like Louise Anderson.

R266 and R267 appear to be giving us an illustration of what it Takes To Know One.

Fuck off, r270, you anti-Meghan/Harry loons are insane.

[quote]She seems happy and always smiling

She seems phony. Kate’s a cunt, and she’s decided to start showing it.

R286 - why? I haven't heard anything negative about her.

These threads are a great way to block lunatic fraus.

R260, I think Archie will grow up very famous, not due to his place in the royal succession but because of his parents' fame/notoriety. I see him hanging around with and dating Kardashian/Jenner kids and other celeb offspring, or doing goofy things like Jaden Smith. And if he ends up growing up in England after all, he'll be falling out of clubs with famous offpring/aristocratic scions there.

I just love how to MM haters can read Meghan’s mind and be so sure of her every move - even before she does.

Your tin hats are quite fetching.

Because she's so transparent, r290.

R289, Archie won't grow up like Peter Philips because his mother will want to pimp him out and exploit him (see already the case "Archie" is bringing against the paps), but I don't think he'll be particularly famous either. His parents really have nothing to do with Kardashian/Jenner types. A better comparison might be the Schwarzenegger/Shriver kids, except their parents were much more famous and had actually achieved something and are better integrated as a family into American society.

Archie's parents will be aware that they have to avoid trashy celebdom and aim for some kind of "dignified" engagement, befitting their "royal/woke" status. I already feel sorry for Archie though, I think he's going to have a fucked up life and a tragic family situation.

He's not going to end up growing up in the UK and I think that in both the US and the UK there will be a kind of embarrassment surrounding the Markle family. People won't really know how to approach them, they will be seen as opportunists in every situation and no one of any credibility will be willing to get too close to them, especially because that could be construed as siding against the BRF. And they have no real friends.

Tattler won't be able to get enough of Archie when he is in his teens and starts spending part of his summers castle-hopping in the UK. He will be a grandson of the King.

R278 - Oh, don't even ask, she might answer you.

Sheer envy. William daughter is an HRH, she was part of the rumours about how angry Kate got at Meghan at the wedding rehearsals as Meghan screamed that that child was going to ruin her wedding and the "tights" issue for the little girls . . .

She has silky straight hair, she's obviously going to be tall, slim, leggy, and beautiful when she grows up, and likely her father and grandfather's darling . . .

So she must be torn up in spite whilst the same creature doing that shrieks about how people "pick on" Archie.

Archie won't be spending part of his summers "castle-hopping" in the UK and even the Tatler knows not to go after teens.

You people have no idea what Meghan is thinking.

it's pretty obvious that Corona has messed up Meghan and HArry's plans. And in a way it's good, a blessing in disguise. Gives them a chance to calm things down and have better control over how they want to be seen. But it also handicaps them from accepting lucrative speaking engagements and being high profile celebrities. They are going to become the Sarah Fergusons of their generation if they aren't smarter.

R297 they seem committed to shooting themselves in the foot.

R296, we actually know a number of things about her thinking, based on her own statements. The Instagram "edict" she issued with Harry at the beginning of the year established that they wanted to be part in the RF, and part out, because they wanted to make money (be "financially independent") and be "progressive." We also know that she is preoccupied with her coverage in the British tabloids. She's filed several lawsuits against them; in one she accused the Daily Mail of pursuing a negative campaign against her. She also issued a formal statement to the tabloids themselves ironically announcing that she and Harry would not talk to them any more. This predictably triggered more articles. She herself established that she is concerned with money and her public image, just not necessarily in an effective way.

Well either Meghan is going to continue to get hysterical and sue everyone who looks at her cross-eyed, or she is going learn from her missteps and outgrow this need to retaliate, or comment on, respond to every real or imaginary slight. She needs to calm down and not be seen to importune her way into every public discussion.

And she is going have to be seen to be taking good care of Harry who has been for all these years since he was born, a beloved member of the RF. With all his fuck ups he has lived his life very publicly, his feelings on his sleeves, with an unusual amount of candor. So she needs to understand her public role, at least in the early years must be someone who looks out for Harry and is loving, not demanding. She cannot always act like the injured party.

[quote]or she is going learn from her missteps and outgrow this need to retaliate, or comment on, respond to every real or imaginary slight.

She's almost 40 years old (and some rumors say older) and she's not going to outgrow anything at this point.

Meghan is going to try to exploit that baby or go for a second pregnancy (if she still can at this point). Archie will grow up Hollywood and tell stories and if he isn't pretty enough, there is a whole lot momma can do.

Prince George will be cute while young like his dad but probably more reserved like Prince Edward. Princess Charlotte will have her mom's hair and legs, but her great aunt's unlikable personality already shows. Prince Luis will be the one that keep his looks as he favors the Middletons who have at least aged with hair and seems to be a funny little guy.

"Her great aunt's unlikeable personality"????

Anne, I'll have you know, is a DL FAVE. She's such a breath of fresh air.

Anne is also actually popular with the public in the UK. It's well known she's the hardest working Royal, in the sense that she has hands down the most working engagements, and she never gets less than glowing reviews from people who work with her on her engagements. Friendly, smart and down to earth. That's her overall reputation.

R303 - I meant Princess Margaret. And Anne is a bitch in private and was a monster to Diana.

Meghan targeted Harry just as Kate (and her mother) targeted William. Kate went to William's schools; Meghan went to Africa.

But Meghan faltered once in possession of her prize. Her ego simply could and can not act in deference to another woman, be she Queen or future Queen.

So now, instead of being beloved and visible members of the BRF, performing charity work in the name of Diana, the Sussexes are attending LA events, hats in hand, seeking paying but pointless speaking engagements.

Harry has seen his military life, his point of pride, come to an end.

Neither can be especially pleased with his or her lot right now.

The way Harry grew up he never lived a day in the real world now he has to live outside the royal bubble and I doubt he can handle it. I believe he was am easy target for Meghan.

Oh boo hoo, R305, everyone was mean to Diana, just like everyone is mean to Meghan.

Could there be a reason for that?

No r299, you know nothing. Speculation is fine, but don’t claim that you know what she’s thinking. You don’t.

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[quote]The way Harry grew up he never lived a day in the real world

But we've continually been told that Diana took her boys to McDonalds and to homeless shelters so that they would grow up with a sense of the "real" world.

[quote]She has silky straight hair, she's obviously going to be tall, slim, leggy, and beautiful when she grows up

Also a whore. Those long, slim royal legs will be open for all comers. She and her older sister, Georgie, will cruise men together.

It's typical of rich and privileged twits to think that raising their kids as "normal" kids (meaning the plebs) is taking them to McDonald's and serving meals at the homeless shelter once or twice a year. Fuck Diana and her simplistic, patronizing views of "normal".

R308 - yes there is a reason. The BRF older generation are anti-Semites, Hitler sympathizers and nasty bigots so no liberal will ever fit it. Prince Philip is a racist who wanted to join Hitler Youth and Anne is his favorite.

Also, Anne looks like a man and an ugly one at that.

[quote] Also, Anne looks like a man and an ugly one at that.

She fucked Andrew Parker-Bowles, who then went on to marry the hideously fugly Camilla Shand Parker-Bowles.

[quote]Would not surprise me at all if both Windsor Castle and Buckingham Palace are permanently open to the public for tours, and simply are office complexes and museums in the future. St. James, Clarence House and a few other properties will remain as residences, Highgrove for sure, and Sandringham estates.

Windsor and BP are already partially open to the public, and I can see them becoming more open in coming times, esp BP which is not favored by Charles as a residence. Highgrove, Balmoral and Sandringham are all private properties and will remain with Charles and his line going forward.

[quote]They will let the elderly, the Kents, etc. live out their days at Kensington, then make it a public building as well.

Not quite. The Cambridges have indicated they will make KP their London home for the long-term, at least until he is King and then maybe beyond that. George may very well take up residence there, as adult heir. It's long been a 'storage pad' for aging loyal relatives, it's not a stretch to believe that the York girls - if they wind up part time officially working Royals - will have small spaces here for staying in town, and pay a modest rent.

KP is already partly public, in that public tours are ongoing and space can be rented there for events. There are several royal offices operating there, and some apartments are already available for rent by the general public - finances and security profiles vetted of course. It may become more available, but the prime living space there will still be reserved for the BRF and extended family.

R315 - well some guys are into horses I guess.

[quote]but the prime living space there will still be reserved for the BRF and extended family.

Damn straight! Nobody is throwing me out of my semi-detached!

R314, Prince Philip's mentor was a German Jew called Kurt Hahn, who was an educator and established his own method of teaching. Hahn was persecuted by the Nazis. Philip went to the schools Hahn founded in Germany and the UK and they helped shape his personality and thinking.

Phillip's Battenburg mother saved Jews during the war and was declared Righteous Among the Nations by Israel.

R314, Prince Philip's mentor was a German Jew called Kurt Hahn, who was an educator and established his own method of teaching. Hahn was persecuted by the Nazis. Philip went to the schools Hahn founded in Germany and the UK and they helped shape his personality and thinking.

Phillip's Battenburg mother saved Jews during the war and was declared Righteous Among the Nations by Israel.

That's interesting, r319. Philip is an interesting man.

Yes, r319, and both Philip and William have formally visited her tomb in Israel. Did Charles? I don't know.

Note she is interred in Israel with honors. She was obviously a highly troubled but very well meaning woman who has been highly honored. quite justly. Her many problems. both physical and mental over her years, have been well documented, yet she is revered.

[quote]Philip is an interesting man.

When he's not trying to grab a lady's fanny.

And to you Yanks, fanny does not mean ass in the UK.

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Spill, r323!

'She has silky straight hair, she's obviously going to be tall, slim, leggy, and beautiful when she grows up'

RACIST AS HELL! Because only women with 'silky straight hair' are beautiful, aren't they, you racist old fucker?

Shame Charlotte has a lantern jaw, hooded eyes AND eye bags.

William has to be the oldest looking 38 year old on planet earth. Poor Kate. They'll both be working into their 90s while Harry and Meghan retire at 60.

Well, r323, when Al Jolson's hit US film Hallelujah, I'm a Bum was released in the UK, it had to be retitled Hallelujah, I'm a Tramp and the title song refilmed with a new lyric. As Bernard Shaw once noted, the US and the UK are two countries separated by common language.

But all that is really off topic here.

R327 As you said he looks old as shit and is a smoker. He won’t live to age 90.

Princess Alice of Battenberg, Philip's mother, had a fascinating yet very tragic life. She deserves her own thread, if she hasn't had one. Too late for me to search right now.

R330 it wasn’t that fascinating she was a religious looney and got sent away to looney house against her will. That’s what they did back then. Then became a nun. The end.

Well, that's certainly the most simplistic way to look at it, isn't it r331. Glad to know who you are.

Princess Alice appeared at Philip's wedding in her monastic robes and spent her final years in retirement on one of the British Royal Estates. She was then interred in Israel with great honors;

Yeah, she was nuts. So what? She wasn't a Megan.

R333 Interesting story since she raised 4 nazi daughters.

Alice had a nervous breakdown after they were forced to flee, and remained nervous to the point of silence for most of the rest of her life, but she wasn't "mad".

She retained enough sense to save a number of Jews during WW2.

She deserves high praise for that, however much she may have stuttered when spoken to.

Her stutter may have been related to her being born congenitally deaf. She was nonetheless much sought after as a royal princess due to her sweetness, her looks and her intelligence. Her schizophrenia, for which she was indeed hospitalized, came later She overcame so much.

[quote[R333] Interesting story since she raised 4 nazi daughters.

I'm aware that most of her sisters married high ranking Nazis, since they were all highly sought after royal granddaughters of Victoria, but I've never heard that she had four Nazi daughters. Do you have a link?

Nothing special about the BRF. If anything they are the most vanilla of the world.

[quote] William has to be the oldest looking 38 year old on planet earth. Poor Kate. They'll both be working into their 90s while Harry and Meghan retire at 60.

Retire R327?

Retire??!!

What the hell have the gritting duo Megs and Harry done?

They sponge off others constantly: fathers......husbands......family members.....celebrities....corporations....et al..

Would be humorous if it they - and you and your defense - weren’t so pathetic.

lol, Meghan and Harry would have to start working before they retire.

Yes, he is r321, and his early life is fascinating and troubled. "Young Prince Philip" by Philip Eade is a fascinating read.

'They sponge off others constantly: fathers......'

Same for Kate and Wills. With them, you can add in the British tax payer too.

'lol, Meghan and Harry would have to start working before they retire.'

They could retire now with the amount of money they have, and in a way this is what they've done. A few well paid speaking engagements a year while K and W traipse aroung the chilly UK planting trees in their 90s.

The difference, r342, is that most of the taxpaying British public actually like and appreciate future King and Queen Will and Kate.

The taxpaying British public have been basically slapped around, screeched at, and robbed by the entirely pointless emigres Meghan and Harry.

The majority dislike William and always have. They prefered Harry in all polls prior to Megxit.

Not.

Anymore.

r345

Wills has had to work hard to rehabilitate his image. He is essentially an arrogant, disagreeable person. He and his palace aids realized how much he was disliked and have tried to present him as an amiable family man. He is indebted to Kate and the sprogs for this,

Palace aides, r347. Palace AIDES.

Not "palace aids".

But do go on and continue to inform us with your deep inside knowledge of the inner workings of KP and BP and the rest.

Harry and Meghan don't give a fuck if the Brits don't like them.

Exactly, r349, and the British taxpayers have somehow noticed that.

William has a weak chin, a double chin, a narrow arch to his jaw with receding yellow teeth and a toe shaped skull which makes his baldness deeply unattactive. Also eye wrinkles and eye bags like his children. These more natural poses disguise how ugly the whole family is by only showing bits of their faces.

R50, they aren't being paid by the tax payers anymore. They're irrelevant and so is their opinion, so shut the fuck up about them.

And all that somehow makes him unworthy of the Crown, r351?

I think you need to flesh out your argument.

Somebody doesn't know how to use this site....(whisper at the pathetic sugar r352)

Alpha Wills versus Pussy Harry

R354 That poster thinks Muriel can paywall a thread whenever he/she asks. Bless her soul.

Or possibly palisades, R348.

Like it or not, r351, William will be King.

Meanwhile Harry has relegated himself to squatting in a cheaply made Hollywood McMansion, reliant upon the Kindness of Strangers.

R351 William should have gotten a hair transplant a long time ago. Now he will be the baldest and probably fattest king since Henry VIII.

Yep r359 William is definitely on his way to severe obesity.

All Henry viii ever cared about was his 'dancing legs', meanwhile:

"As a young man, Henry was inordinately proud of his fine calves, displaying them by use of a garter fastened around his leg just below the knee (Figure 1). The same legs were to torture him for the last two decades of his life, described by Chapuys, the Spanish Ambassador as: '… the worst legs in the world'

R360 Give it 15 years , he is well on his way.

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Harry, r362?

Yes. He is.

R360 posted a picture of Wills when he was a twenty something. We all look better then than we do now...

Poor William. No muscles. Never exercises. Eats all day.

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I doubt William and Kate will work into their 90s. Charles might, but only because he'll come to the throne so late. William and Kate will reign for a couple of decades until they are in their 70s, and then pass it over to George and his spouse, just like most of the European monarchs do. It's a sensible system that keeps someone reasonably energetic on the throne and allows the older folks to enjoy a retirement.

This is probably is for a separate thread, but I'm watching all these riots (not judging, sympathetic however) and seeing all these symbols to conquests, cultural imperialism, economic supremacy and political power and I can't help deep down inside think "Are the BRF next?" If I was the Queen, I tell you I'd be thinking real hard about what's going on outside the castle walls. As another poster said (on another thread, I think), the U.K. is broke. B.R.O.K.E. How does a broke nation look at its books and not for a moment, ponder where to trim the "excess." or the"fat." You look at Pedrew, look at Harry, look at Fergie (still mooching and squatting at Royal Lodge), and you have to ask yourself....why are we scrimping and saving, out of work, depressed, hungry, no future and these characters are complaining about too many duties or what have you. There's a kind of psychic numbing among the populace when it comes to being honest and frank about the BRF and maybe, just maybe these riots and societal uprisings are harbingers of an attitudinal shift towards the royals and an expression of a deeper societal malaise, one that is slowly, quietly but steadily questioning the viability of these lavish royal royal lifestyles. May not happen. But when the Queen passes, I'd say Charles is in for some choppy waters.

You think this hasn't happened before, r369 and been FAR worse when it did?

I mean really, really, far worse.

Does no one study the long history of Iconaclasm in the U.S.?

Do you not know what total, constant violence precedes you, or do you just think the world merely sprung up in the relatively peaceful country in which you happened to be lucky enough to be born?

I think that's given, r370. Lighten up.

Fuck off, r371.

If you understood so much as the concept of history, you'd have something constructive to say, rather than just blather your blandness.

What people like r369 don't get is that it's precisely when the country is in a shit shape that the people look to the royal family as a source of stability.

Oh, dear. I see our Klan Grannie Troll, displaying the comprehension yet again of an amoeba, as responded to the long straight silky hair comment.

Which was, in fact, a response to the poster who asked what Princess Charlotte, who is a child, had ever done to the KGT?

That Meghan Markle hates Princess Charlotte because she represents everything Meghan Markle wishes she were and had: long straight silky hair (which Meghan tries to have), and long beautiful legs which Meghan Markle will never have, and is moreover a Princess of the Blood, which Meghan can never be. Meghan's kid is a commoner; Kate's kid is an HRH; and Kate and Kate's kid have the hair and leg Meghan wants.

So, pet, it's really Meghan who believes that long straight silky hair is what makes a woman beautiful, or she wouldn't be trying so hard to copy it. Only she can't.

The KGT knows this perfectly well, and so is carrying Meghan's Hate Water for her by spewing sexual perversion at a five-year-old.

Who, no matter what filth the KGT spews out here, will still be what Meghan wishes she were: a real princess, tall with beautiful legs, and the hair that Meghan wants so badly she's destroyed her own hair to make it look like she has hair like Charlotte's.

I hope that clears it up for the poster who asked what the KGT had against a four year old.

So R374, you are saying that black women and biracial women all want to look like a dull, decent-looking (nothing more) white woman?

Five year olds are not described as “women” by rational people.

R374 - I mean Princess Charlotte had baby legs back when Meghan got into the family? And most women in Meghan's life has straight hair? And, in fact, Meghan could have had cute curls but instead simply has a hair person who hates her.

R374 = weird analogy. WTF? A "woman", "long legs"? She is just a baby and not an attractive one either but anyway, babies are cute. I think the quarrel was about what dress Princess Charlotte should wear and control freak Meghan had her own ideas and Kate was going with the most "safe" choice. They argued so the kid cried when she saw them argue. Kate was hormonal after pregnancy and that set her crying too....all in the life of a woman.

There is some major crazy on this thread, even for a British Royal Family thread.

[QUOTE] Five year olds are not described as “women” by rational people.

Yep, I'm appalled by all the creepy paedophiles on here salivating over a five year old's 'long slim legs'. Nearly all young children have skinny legs.

[QUOTE] Who, no matter what filth the KGT spews out here, will still be what Meghan wishes she were: a real princess, tall with beautiful legs, and the hair that Meghan wants so badly she's destroyed her own hair to make it look like she has hair like Charlotte's.

Well here you are out in the open, you nasty racist cunt. If Meghan wanted hair like Charlotte or Kate, why wasn't she colouring it auburn like theirs? Meghan's occupation on her marriage certificate is the same as Kate's, 'princess of the UK', but two years showed her how tedious that kind of life was. Meghan didn't want another four decades of waving, smiling and travelling to damp English towns. If she'd valued her princess status, she would have stayed.

[QUOTE] Kate was hormonal after pregnancy and that set her crying too....

What a weak, milksop idiot Kate is. The temps for Meghan's wedding were in the 80s, but Conventional Katie thought it was her place to say the bridesmaids should swelter all day in tights. Of course Meghan hit back and poor timid Kate started to weep. Pitiful.

William's horrible yellow goat's teeth.

[quote]The temps for Meghan's wedding were in the 80s

So Meghan could have avoided the whole issue by not stealing Eugenie's planned spring wedding date and demanding it for herself. But, she's Meghan, and of course, what Meghan wants Meghan gets.

R376 - Our Klan Grannie Troll is irrational. Imagine if this were FB or Twitter and she started to talk about a five year old's "legs being open to all comers"!

Especially given we know who it really whose legs were open to all comers as she climbed the greasy pole in show biz.

And who won't admit that it it MEGHAN MARKLE WHO HATES HER AFRICAN HAIR.

Meanwhile, Meghan's solicitors have submitted new papers naming the PEOPLE Five and bringing the BRF into the lawsuit by stating that she felt totally unprotected by then, and repeating that she had absolutely no idea her friends were giving interviews to PEOPLE and asserting that she only glancingly mentioned that she was going to write to her father and that they never discussed their interviews with her or what they were going to say or told her that they were going to reference the letter . . . an assertion so ludicrous that Martians are probably cracking their ribs over it.

The actual names are available only in the confidential section of the papers; publicly, they are listed as A, B, C, D, and E.

One can only imagine the discussions now occurring amongst Clarence House, Kensington Palace, and Windsor Castle about whether or not it is finally time to admit the obvious and take the bitch's, and her enabling dimwitted pathetic drugged out husband's, titles and HRHs away for real and for good, and to put stops on all the cheques from the Bank of Charles.

This is going to get very juicy, children, very juicy. Especially as the ungrateful spiteful golddigging bitch has had the gall to try to cast some of the blame on the BRF, who are the only reason she isn't by now a has-been d-list actress pushing hard on 40 with no husband, no kids, no title, and nothing but some modest savings and a closet full of old clothes.

Lay in a large store of popcorn before the next COVID surge strikes.

[quote] Meghan didn't want another four decades of waving, smiling and travelling to damp English towns. If she'd valued her princess status, she would have stayed.

Markle was offered the option to NOT accept a title and continue on with her life upon marrying into the BRF.

But NOOOO. She insisted upon a title. And completely mucking up on the job and making a complete fool of herself in the process.

Like the idiot she is, showing how she could not hack being in the BRF.

Just like her appalling acting skills, she revealed to the world her appalling behaviour on the world stage.

And the dislike of her by the ever-increasing-world-majority has nothing to do the the level of melanin in her skin. It is the result of her revolting behaviour.

I disliked both princes and thought they were entitled areholes, but William grew up after marriage and parenthood.

DickfaceHarry is still a dick at nearly middleage. He is balding and nasty and trying to appeal to "the kids" makes him look even more ridiculous.

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In Harry's latest video instructing everyone else to not be racist or greedy, it appears he is sporting some kind of hairpiece, and that he has dyed small Homie the Clown tufts on either side of his head a darkish red. Have you seenthat?

r388, Aren't they super christian and bessie mates with Welby? He needs to just shave it into a tonsure aas he is nearly there.

William and Kate's dance at their wedding...

No, I'm not kidding.

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Will & Kate visited a hospital today to celebrate the NHS birthday. Swipe for photos.

Behold the ravages of age!

I'm not a Kate hater - she seems very good at her job - but why oh why do they make that poor woman dress like she runs the evangelical prayer group? I get the recycling clothes thing, and a lot of her are very "classic" but that dress & ponytail in the picture at R392 , good lord! All she needs is her hair in a bun & she'd look Mennonite! Surely now that the Sparkles have left the building & took their crazy with them, Kate has a bigger budget for clothes, a sassy new haircut and maybe some fillers for her lips.

Maybe R394 ,just maybe she likes to dress that way ?

Word for word, r394.

I think for her daytime duties, she could be appropriately updated. She needs to stay "classic", but even classic needs a contemporary freshening-up once in awhile.

Her evening gowns are perfection.

Aw, Kate does perfect for her age, class and station. What's wrong with you guys?

Can't be easy.

Geez, you guys. My wedding present was that I got all of the Queen Mother's clothes upon her death. Liz just said, "We all have to cut corners, dear." So I'm stuck having to make do with an old lady's wardrobe. Can't wait until Liz kicks and I can get my hands on some of Margaret's stuff.

Kate is too obedient to ever have much needed filler in her lips and under her eyes. An operation to peel away her eye hoods would also be a wonderful idea. But Kate is growing old naturally and will be a hag by the time she's in her 60s, just like the Queen.

Meanwhile, Meghan will stay beautifully frozen in time like all the LA celebs. At 60, she'll look twenty years younger than Kate.

It’s a difficult job for any stylist to make dehydrated turkey breast look good.

Leave Kate alone. She popped out three kids. She did her job for Britain and ensured the monarchy will continue and now she should be able to relax.

You mean the fish lips and perennially stunned look from too many eye procedures, r400?

R400 must not look at many LA celebs

Agree, R404. Mel Gibson has not said much worth quoting in his life, but I will always cherish his remark to someone in the Australian media after he'd been in LA for a while that it was eerie being among "all these old people with tight heads".

They don't look young. Not even a little bit. They look weird.

Uhh ohh. Mutt was used to describe Meghan on LSA. Action is being taken. Hate speech.

Kate looks very nice and what's more important is enjoying surging popularity. I like their Zoom meetings, getting cake at the shops, etc. It's a difficult summer and the Cambridges are holding steady.

R394 - Why should Kate get fillers for her lips? Maybe she likes them the way they are and with her looming ascendancy up the royal ladder, tall handsome future King husband, and three attractive children, doesn't feel as if she has anything to prove to the fashionistas?

And she doesn't "always" look like that - you've forgotten the suits with the very short flirty skirts and high heels showing off her shapely legs, and the off the shoulder gowns at the BAFTAS . . .

She's visiting the NHS after a long lockdown due to a worldwide pandemic. It's not an occasion for glamour or sex, but for sober appreciation of the efforts of nurses during a crisis.

People miss how sly Kate can be. At last year's Ascot, in that ankle length terribly Victorian blue dress with a pussy bow, it took a couple of glances to realise that it was so diaphanous you could see that underneath the demure dress, Kate was wearing . . . a black G-string.

Kate didn't get where she is being a shrinking violet. She knows what her husband likes. She knows what the monarchy requires. She knows what the British public expects. Thus, in YouGov's polls, she now outranks Harry in popularity, whilst Meghan, who undoubtedly would have worn something more "interesting" to meet a group of NHS nurses, has plunged to 14th in YouGov's polls: behind Zara Tindall.

Oh, good grief R408; it's a gay gossip board. Can't one comment (rather tactfully) on appearances without being attacked by the Women's Temperance League? I said Kate was lovely & she makes being royal appear easy (which Sparkle demonstrates is harder than it looks) - I was simply advocating for a bit of a refresher.

R409 - I take your point but my point is that being royal is different from being a celebrity and the appearance of not caring about one's appearance and especially one's age is one of the differences. Sorry, but I don't see why a gossip site can't gossip about the difference?

And what's more, it's the fundamental difference between Kate and Meghan. Lip fillers are a bit more than "refresher", everyone would notice, and people would snicker.

Meghan, of course, is a cheap celebrity, always has been. That's who "refershers" and lip fillers are for.

Kate knows the difference. Hence, the success you noted early in your post: it's not caring about lip fillers that make her a good royal.

Cheers, R408

What "smaller carriage"? What carriage that was open so that people could see the couple was the Queen allegedly talking about?

This is the "disapproving at Kate" remark"?!!!!!

The Mirror needs to try harder.

what r410 said.

'tall handsome future King husband, and three attractive children'

You mean a tall, ugly, bald husband with huge yellow teeth and a double chin and three children with eye hoods and button eyes.

'you've forgotten the suits with the very short flirty skirts and high heels showing off her shapely legs'

Nope, we all remember the times when the Yacht Whore Middleton showed off her bare ass to assembled troops and dignitaries because she was too vain to wear weights in her hem. And you Klan bitches scream about Meghan leaving a price tag visible! Pretty tame in comparison. If Kate's black thong was deliberately visible recently, that is disgusting too. One rule for the white woman and another for the biracial one.

413 - Yeah. I was LMAO @ that description of William, and the eyebags trio too. ::)

Ooohhhhhh look, the Klan Grannie Troll is brandishing her Sword of Justice over our heads!

We're waiting for updates, pet, on how all that "action" is faring; how many so far have been arrested, arraigned, and have had court dates set for hate speech for expressing negative opinions about Meghan Markle on LSA (Unpopular Opinions thread now exceeding 4,500 pages despite your efforts)? Nutflavour or whatever it is? Anyone on DL?

Oh - none?

Well, we're patient here on DL. We'll wait for info based on your somewhat suspicious access to police and judicial activities . . .

Camilla on the radio.

Even at her best, Kate is a frumpish cow. A frow, if you will.

Sucks to be #6 and sinking like a plastic trout lipped stone with concrete shoes.

MURIEL THE KLAN CUNTS ARE HERE!

I know you track your name so please do your thing and silence these disgusting old women. Coronavirus killed off a few and others are on ventilators, but there are still PLENTY OF RACISTS left. You don't want DL to be prosecuted for hosting RACIST discussions, so please delete these KKK threads, as you have MANY others already!

Swipe for details of the death of the handsome Prince William of Gloucester.

The heir to the Gloucester dukedom was far handsomer than his younger brother, Richard. Not the first time the BRF lost Heirs and ended with Spares - George V was the younger brother, George VI was the younger brother, Prince William of Gloucester was the younger brother.

What a good job the more recent immediate younger brother Spares (Princes Andrew and Harry) are out of the picture.

Kate would have been at Wimbledon this week. Instead, she had a video meeting with Andy Murray and some young tennis players.

Sir Andy was a surprise visitor - Kate didn't tell the kids he would be there. It's a very cheery video.

The MIRROR just did a major survey of more than 4,000 people on the royals - Kate emerged as the favourite, eclipsing the Queen and William and Harry - and needless to say, Meghan Markle, who came in sixth - behind Princess Anne.

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' Kate emerged as the favourite, eclipsing the Queen and William and Harry - and needless to say, Meghan Markle, who came in sixth - behind Princess Anne.'

Meghan still came out as sixth, after all she's done? Lmaooooooooo, you Klan trolls must be fuming. I guess Harry was 2 or 3 or you'd be telling us his ranking.

The Klan trolls are in trouble. Last week it was mentioned that a very powerful black organisation that has Money to burn and some very very powerful lawyers came on board after being handed two years worth of racist trolling and stalking of black people on another site. Someone spoke up this week who can't be ignored due to their family history. It was just the beginning. Every blog that has made death threats. 6 Blogs. They have copies of a private thread because someone on there was leaking. That thread and the involvement of staff members who run the site and what they organized means it too is in trouble. The identities of the 17 core obsessed loons is already known. They are going to start private cases on behalf of the black women harassed. Not on Meghan's behalf. It's huge.

‘Someone on there was leaking’?

Ew, sounds messy.

R427, the Klan trolls who bitch about Meghan here will also be doing it on other boards. Let's hope this investigation lands them all in court.

Markle’s “5 friends” involved in the MoS lawsuit will come out.

This lawsuit is going to be very interesting.

She’s going to get slammed!

r427 and r429 = psycho

The revelations that have come out have been really good. A lot of things that didn't quite make sense in late 2019 have all clicked into place and much of the speculative gossip has been correct. It will be interesting to see what is next for them. It would have been so much more fun if Meghan had stayed the course and caused trouble while being royal.

[quote] It would have been so much more fun if Meghan had stayed the course and caused trouble while being royal.

Actually the ability to see them “free” in LA, gives us unfettered access to all their shenanigans.

Like teenagers who have run away on Daddy’s allowance, they can act out for all the world to see.

As another thread stated, they are the Fyre Festival of Royals.

We are here to watch it all unfold....

Where does William get the bald trait? His mother's brother and father had hair. His father still has hair. The only bald person in his family is the Queen's cousin the Duke of Kent. It has to be someone else. Prince Harry looks like he will be bald too.

R434 - Harry is rapidly going bald, a particularly bad look for a frizzy ginge.

There are two threads already open on the lawsuit - it would be nice if you took comments about the suit to one of them. The "Meghan Accuses Tabloid" one is already much bigger, that would be the place to go, especially as she has just requested injunctive relief to prevent the Mail from identifying the PEOPLE Five publicly.

[quote]The only bald person in his family is the Queen's cousin the Duke of Kent.

That's "Prince" to you, bub.

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Queen Mum was practically bald all over her head - no place to even put hair pins.

I love Harry's full head of lustrous hair.

[quote] Where does William get the bald trait? His mother's brother and father had hair.

Baldness comes from the mother's father, and Johnnie Spencer went pretty bald near the end of his life.

George and Louis will be spared this, since their maternal grandfather (Michael Middleton) has retained his thick hair.

I do too R439, would just love to run my fingers thru his luxurious locks. Sigh, what a hearthrob.

I've seen this with my straight friends. Hot men seem to really age overnight once they are married with children. At R439, Harry is starting to go down hill. When I have seen photos recently of Harry and Meghan on zoom, harry is looking gaunt, more bald and Meghan is starting to go for the slick backed Kim Kardashian look.

Side note, does anyone think it's hot that that aside from being king, Williams job is really to breed and inseminate. I just think of him fucking with his horse cock, breeding away.

[quote]I've seen this with my straight friends. Hot men seem to really age overnight once they are married with children.

Correlation does not imply causation.

New photo of bug eyed Bea. She would look better with her mouth close. Those teeth are huge.

Very serious question. Are there any dental techniques that could help Beatrice with her teeth? Seriously. Can they be cut down to size? Is she even capable of closing her mouth?

I'm not a dentist, but the problem seems to be with Bea's lower jaw. Protruding and giving the look of an intellectually challenged person. He lower jaw really sags.

Unfortunately all the plastic surgeries in the world won’t be able to fix horsey teeth. There are many great beauties whose looks are only marred by horsey teeth.

Shown here seconds before biting a huge bloody hole in his father’s head

R447, you could have your real teeth replaced with more attractive implants, but that sounds very painful.

[quote]Unfortunately all the plastic surgeries in the world won’t be able to fix horsey teeth. There are many great beauties whose looks are only marred by horsey teeth.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

R434 The only unusual thing about William’s baldness within the royal family is that his name isn’t Edward. See:

Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex

Prince Edward, Duke of Kent

Edward VII

Prince Edward, Duke of Kent and Strathearn (Queen Victoria’s father)

Actually, Prince Edward is bald-ing, as opposed to bald. RIght now, Harry is also bald-ing rather than bald.

IMO, bald-ing is a far worse look that bald. Hence, William look manly and mature, whilst Harry at 35 just looks unkempt and like he still thinks he's 23.

Yes, Bea's worst feature is her gum line, mouth, and teeth. She really has nice enough eyes (even if they are a bit "poppy"), hair, and skin, and when not overweight has a nice enough figure, but the lower jaw was an unfortunate hand of cars. In the jawline, she's pure Windsor. In her father's salad days Andrew was handsome - his feral teeth didn't seem to matter. But in a young woman it's a major detraction.

Still, she seems sweet-natured enough and appears to want nothing more than a beautiful wedding, a handsome husband, and a family. With the lockdown lifting, I wonder if they'll plan the wedding for spring 2021.

In her shoes, I'd have opted for a sweet private wedding this August up at Balmoral, in Craithie Church; she could still wear the beautiful gown, the Queen and Philip wouldn't have to travel up from Windsor, there would be plenty enough attention and lots of photographs, they could have a lovely reception for just a few at Balmoral (Scotland is beautiful in August), and she and Edo could show they're not in it for the glitter.

^*hand of cards (not cars)

R453, HM and PP and the rest of the family aren't going to Balmoral this summer because of both the virus and travel restrictions that have been imposed between Scotland and England.

Kate in polka dots for the Tiny Happy People education initiative.

Fergie knows Lisa Marie so well that she calls her "Sissy? Who knew.

R457 And of course she wants the world to know by posting on Insta rather than discreetly sending her a text message or phoning.

Tragic old Fergie - still fame-whoring, even if that means using her “friend’s” son’s suicide.

Kate's fans online are called Kate's Rangers. One of them tweeted this and the FBI was tagged and notified. LORRAINE CARCINI: Let's send letters to JH at perry' s house expressing our concern for his mental health. Address it to JH so that MM can't open it; that would be illegal in the us. Let's letter bomb him. Address is: ****************,, just the cost of a stamp. She illegally identified the Sussex address online. Like I said before if the BRF doesn't stop this someone is going to act on the incendiary tabloid articles and hurt someone. This was after an article was published stating that Harry looks like a hostage.

Drama llama @ r459.

The FBI was notified, r459?

I'm sure they'll get right on that.

What the fuck is R459 on about?

Is he high as a kite?

R461 - You have to give the KGT credit for imagination.

She's been threatening us all with legal action for, oh, the better part of two years, I should think. Naturally, it never happens.

The Sussex's address isn't a state secret. It's Tyler Perry's home and as the paps found it instantly it's rather laughable to suggest the FBI are going to drop what they're doing as they track Chinese and Russian operatives in the West and serial killers, because some other member of the public knows where it is.

I hate to break it to the KGT, but the Harkles aren't in the FBI Witness Protection Programme.

Pssst: Everyone knows the Cambridges' address, too; ditto, the Queen, Philip, Prince Andrew (Royal Lodge in Windsor Great Park for those interested), Eugenie and Jack, etc., etc..

Where, I am sure, they're all getting threatening hate mail from DL's very own expert in hate: the Klan Grannie Troll.

I suppose it is futile to suggest, once again, that discussions of what Kate is doing today, etc., be moved to the Royals Royals Everywhere General Thread, instead of cluttering up a thread whose headline is nearly a month out of date?

R462, it’s probably a she, struggling to get the thread closed.

[quote]I suppose it is futile to suggest, once again, that discussions of what Kate is doing today, etc., be moved to the Royals Royals Everywhere General Thread, instead of cluttering up a thread whose headline is nearly a month out of date?

You again. So here's the deal; Datalounge is a chaotic mess, always has been, always will be.

Kate has a new hairstyle - different cut and color. I think it softens her face.

R453 Bea is rather, um, average looking but her fatal mistake is that she wants to be with a handsome man. She needs to accept the reality that she’s not a looker and should find a guy way less attractive than her, so that he would be proud to have her on his arm. Diana’s niece Celia McCorquodale did just that.

R478 is Celia's husband incredibly rich? Only explanation.

R468 - Did you HAVE to put up that photo of Meghan in one of her most horrifying ensembles? I will possible dream of being smothered in it tonight.

Said long ago that Bea should have looked for an aristo amongst the landed gentry who breeds horses or sheep and who would have admired her buxom figure.

Bea, unfortunately, has spent far too much time with the jet set, where the bar is so much higher. A handsome husband is her way of compensating for being sweetly homely in an era that only values perfect teeth, high cheekbones, and tall taut and slender.

I like Kate's new hair style - looks like she got highlights too. I'd still think it would be better cut to her shoulders, but I'm glad to see that ponytail from a couple of weeks ago finally precipitated a new do.

That's one chubby ginger - but he has cheeks you just want to pinch & hopefully is very rich (though the DM article didn't comment about him one way or the other)

Women are so sheep-like and boring now with the same ling hair and makeup. Women took more chances and had more variety in looks in the 80s and 90s. Attractive women had short hair, like Sharon Stone in the 90s. Now it’s boring long hair like Kate or if you don’t/ can’t have long hair then you wear obvious extensions like Meghan today in that cringe video preaching to girls.

Celia's husband would be very nice looking if he dropped 40 lbs,and I think she is quite pretty .

[quote]Diana’s niece Celia McCorquodale did just that.

And got married in Diana's tiara. What does the halfrican think about that?

Doesn't Bea's boyfriend have some very minor Italian title? If so, they should elope to Italy, have a small but lovely ceremony in some obscure but beautiful chapel and be done with it.

Won't happen though. He's a gigolo looking for a very public wedding to help promote his design business and she can't give that to him anymore. So sad for her.

BTW, they've known each other since childhood.

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R477 - Did the Greek Formula take into consideration nose jobs, hair weaves, lip filler, and chin implants?

Rania had a huge nose that she had done in her teens. Meghan's hair is mostly weaves and she had a nose job, too. And, of course, there are Meghan's Chicklet Veneers.

Diana's face was all hers, so was Kelly's, and I think Kate's is, too.

But Rania and Meghan are totally manufactured.

Diana's nose was part of the Ancient Greek's formula for beauty?

She admitted herself she would have loved to have had it done.

R478 - I think Kate is all real although she may have had a very subtle nose job. She also had very good dental work done, miles apart from the Chicklet veneers.

Princess Anne is featured in Women's Weekly mag. Swipe for photos.

Anne is fabulous

If only Anne could be the next monarch. She would be perfect, and she is utterly respected in the UK - unlike her brother Charles.

As courtiers were said to murmur quietly about Charles and Anne when they were growing up - "she's twice the man he is".

The anti Sussex racist troll situation has got so bad on lipstick alley that the black women who post there don't feel safe anymore. They are openly talking about mass boycotting a place that used to be for them and is now full of white Karen's and paid trolls. They are looking into moving to another forum. Whoever is paying for the pro Brf threads and the anti Sussex troll threads is directly responsible for removing a safe place for black women. Unbiased Journalist's and other media this week are going to be handed info on this and other racially motivated attacks by these Karen's and trolls. Two years of disgusting commentary and the racially motivated trolling of black women is included. Disgusting.

Well then! Looks like things are gonna be changin' 'round here!

Don’t worry, there’s an entire wing at Interpol headquarters dedicated to rounding up the anti-Sussex trolls and trying them In the International Criminal Court. Drug cartels, human trafficking, war crimes — small potatoes. The Sussex file is big, I tell you, big.

I hear they have their eye on the Middletons as well.

R485 Where is your pharmacy so that I can send your prescriptions directly to it? You do know this is DL and not LA right? So go preach to them you weirdo.

At this point I want the Interpol to track the nutcase at R485 and arrest them? What are the chances that they are resident at a LA home owned by a black man?

Is the information about someone who said that a five year old girl's "legs will be open to all comers" when she grows up going to be handed to the Paedophile Unit of Interpol, pet?

Camilla is 73 years old today. Swipe for photos.

Just general observations from 492's pictures; Camilla appears to have a warm relationship with Wills & Kate - Harry, not so much. Meghan wasn't really around that long, so you wouldn't expect there to be many pictures, but she's been in Harry's life for years.

Camilla knew what it was like to come into the family in an unwelcome situation and it was widely reported that she took Kate under her wing and mentored her. They've allegedly been close ever since.

And today it is William's heir's turn: Prince George turned seven today. And a handsome lad he is turning out to be.

Birthday is tomorrow. The only reason I remember is he was born the day before my mother died and that's seven years Thursday.

Kate is smart enough to release the birthday photos the day before to deflect whatever retaliation MeAgain had planned.

R497 - The real question is will Harry and Meghan post a Happy Birthday message - or will it be another of those "a source disclosed that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex sent a private message to Prince George on his birthday".

And will they omit "Prince" in their message again, pointedly refusing to acknowledge publicly that William's kids are HRHs and theirs isn't?

They did not wish Princess Charlotte Happy Birthday in May, either.

Of the many walls on which I would like to be a fly if that genie would only appear with the fabled lamp, in the top three is the reception Meghan will get from the Cambridges, let alone the rest of the family, when she accompanies her husband to his grandfather's and/or grandmother's funeral.

Prince George 7th birthday photo # 1 taken by Kate.

Birthday Boy Photo No# 2. I think he looks like Kate's father.

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He does look like James Middleton and yet I see some George VI and Edward VII. I know they're "curated" pictures but she did capture him in happy, relaxed moments... previously I always thought he looked tense.

They did not wish Princess Charlotte Happy Birthday in May, either.

Maybe Charlotte sent a curt letter indicating she no longer desired their birthday wishes or holiday greetings and if they mentioned her in their Arsewell charity scam, they'd be hearing from her lawyer

I love me some Charlotte ! You can already tell she has no fucks to give !

Arsewell charity scam is literally the perfect name for the Sussex grift. Let’s use it from now on.