What would have happen with Marilyn’s career if she didn’t died?

She would have stared in a few B list films before doing the occasional appearance in a television game show.

Her last TV credit would have been a guest spot on Threes Company as Terri’s mom. Before she died on an overdose.

And, Warhol would have never used her face for Pop Art and she would be forgotten.

Thanks in part to her co-star of "Something's Got To Give", Dean Martin (who had Leading Lady veto) she was hired back to the movie with much more money and improved terms.

She looked better than she had in years in 1962 and was spoken considered for Irma La Deuce and other comedies.

Who knows? She was royally fucked over by her Psychiatrist and Doctor who were both unethical and exploitative to the point where they would have faced misconduct charges nowadays.

If she'd had genuine help and support, not surrounded by users, then maybe she would have been in better shape. She was a strong woman.

Her last credit would've been a guest spot on Murder, She Wrote as Jessica's old college friend accused of murdering Harvey Fierstein to stop the release of a tell-all biography.

She was loved and people loved to see her, so unless she was attached to a scandal, she would have gotten loads of work.

She would have been a blonde, less-talented Judy Garland, and probably still would have died from come combination of drugs and alcohol.

She would’ve grown into a great actress.

She'd be Kim Novak.

She'd have played Lily Munster instead of Yvonne DeCarlo.

Have you heard of Kathy Kirby?

I don't believe Monroe would suddenly learn how to function, not in an industry so focused on youth and sex appeal. Shelley Winters was a pain in the ass but she was professional enough to not only get the job done on screen but also to do at least some stage work. Monroe would not be allowed to keep production waiting, never mind hold the curtain on a theatre performance. The only way she could have improved was to retire entirely and marry someone who could provide for her and handle her demons.

She should have got her big Connecticut farm back from that gold digger Arthur Miller and gone to live there in peace. Make a good movie every once in a while. Cut off those leeching Strasbergs.

Amazing how many people made money out of her including her dumb maid who wrote a tell-all to cash in on her "Beloved" dead boss.

She would have become old, irrelevant and then dead.

I've always had this awful vision of her appearing on Hollywood Squares. "Marilyn, to block!" And she'd have made dumb, smutty jokes....

Shirley Mac laine ended up getting many of the parts marilyn would have been given, including........... what a way to go, which Marilyn had already signed for along with her renegotiated somethings got to give contract. She was bumped up to $500k per picture for the 2 picture deal. She had been telling people she was going to start negotiating for a piece of the gross also for future films, so she was obviously thinking of her future. I think she would have starred in a couple movies a year till she hit 40 and then pulled a greta garbo. SHe was the biggest star in the world and it was mostly based on her looks and she knew it. She wouldnt have stuck around too long.

She was actually in good shape when she died and unfortunately her unprofessional (to put it mildly) shrink had a hand the fatal night with being careless as to the meds.

Supposedly her romance with Dimaggio had continued and I believe they would have remarried. He would have wanted her out of the business as soon as possible and would have probably been a good influence on getting her cash flow built up. I think she would have avoided talk shows and any public appearances at all as she wouldnt have wanted the world to see her age. She probably would have been involved in a book deal at some point to publish her take on her life.

The Facts of Life guest star

Here's her last interview, days before she died. She talks about how she craved the validation of being a star but basically realises "fame is fickle" and if its gone tomorrow then so long.

"Fame will go by and, so long, I've had you, fame. If it goes by, I've always known it was fickle. So at least it's something I experience, but that's not where I live."

[quote]What would have happen with Marilyn’s career if she didn’t died?

Her waitress would have fixded her cheeseburger.

Unfortunately, I think she'd have lost her mind as she always feared and wound up in a sanitarium, medicated beyond cognition and would've ballooned from the drugs used at that time.

She wouldn't have had an enviable retirement after erratic behavior got her booted from Hollywood.

She would have gotten the role of Miss Yvonne on Pee Wee's Playhouse. And, she would have played Sally in the Paper Mill Playhouse revival of Follies.

[quote] and was spoken considered for Irma La Deuce

Oh, [italic]dear.[/italic]

OP, That 1962 Golden Globe Award was not for a performance. It was for World Film Favorite or some meaningless title like that, an "award" the Hollywood Foreign Press stopped bestowing long ago.

[quote] Amazing how many people made money out of her including her dumb maid who wrote a tell-all to cash in on her "Beloved" dead boss.

How dare she! Doesn't they know a dumb maid's job is to stay silent?

AS ALWAYS, this last interview contained some great monroe-isms...always loved the comments "i think sexuality is only attractive when it's natural and spontaneous! this is where alot of them (i'm guessing she meant her imitators?) miss the boat. " and "we are all born sexual creatures, thank GOD, it's a pity so many crush and despise this natural gift, all art, all real art comes from it."

throughout her career she was known for her intelligent, sometimes amusing, sometimes thought provoking comments and use of the english language...

as far as her career, she was to have a 2 picture deal of 500 thousand with a bonus if both films completed on time with something's got to give and what a way to go (presumably both would have been successes with the attention of the nude swim and the fact that what a way to go was a success for shirley maclaine).... other possible projects talked about was a musical version of " a tree grows in brooklyn" with sinatra, wilder wanted her for "irma la duce" (perhaps marilyn would have got her first oscar nomination instead of macclaine?), and possibly "kiss me stupid" that kim novak did... the tv production of "rain" was still a possibility if marilyn had decided to give up strasberg as director, and a musical with gene kelly set in world war 1 was also bounced about, as well as a small role in the drama "freud" with her friend monty clift, although her therapist advised her not do that role... she would have been fantastic in hitchcock and other mysteries and suspense films like she was in "niagara".

so marilyn was hardly "finished" or even close to it...granted her career probably would have declined as she aged since being a sexy comedic actress of 40 in 1966 in the middle of the youth obsessed 'swinging 60's" and the sexual revolution of anything goes.... just like taylor's career declined as she reached aged in the late 60's/early 70's as she reached 40 and older..

marilyn would also be famous, super famous and iconic mythical and always be someone the world's greatest photographers wanted to photograph and the public read about even her film success declined.. she would never i don't think do television,game shows or go the way of desperate jayne mansfield with b and c level movies, tacky supper club and nightclub appearances and so on...

R20, Or as Meryl Streep said at Shirley MacLaine's AFI dinner, Irma La Douche.

No one could have helped her. She had too many problems, possibly in part from being over indulged for years. I don't buy that borderline personality disorder is caused solely from trauma. I think it's caused by a degree of trauma combined with spoiling and overindulgence from those around them. Many of these old Hollywood starlets came from rough and abusive backgrounds. But most of them didn't engage in the bratty and unprofessional antics that Monroe did. People would have tired of her crap and she would have found it increasingly difficult to get work .

She would still be kicking up her heels and entertaining fans, like your Auntie Mamie.

See Elizabeth Taylor. A string of failed marriages and tabloid-fodder antics, with high profile guest starring gigs on TV, and weird, sometimes succesful attempts to stay relevant with current hot stars (like Liz with MJ). She definitely would have appeared on Love Boat, and Law and Order, too.

It would have been interesting if she had lived to see Madonna's heyday, and curious if Madonna would have borrowed so heavily from a living superstar and not a dead one.

[Quote] curious if Madonna would have borrowed so heavily from a living superstar and not a dead one.

---Raises eyebrow---

Fox shut Marilyn and her movie down for good. It poured millions and millions more into Elizabeth Taylor and Cleo. Monroe was done. She'd have guested on Beverly Hillbillies, Petticoat Junction, and Lucy.

Taylor actually made over $7 million for Cleo once all was said and done. That was crazy mad money for a film at the time, and certainly the $1 million originally contracted was crazy enough!

R29 they rehired her for €500k

Marilyn's career was never the problem. Marilyn was.

Why did she not do Breakfast At Tiffany's? Didn't Capote write it for her?

If she had that instead "Let's Make Love" her career would have been better thought of.

R32... because PARAMOUNT bought the rights and 20th century fox wouldn't loan marilyn out for it, so the best project at the time (which is pretty damn sad and ridiculous) for 20th century fox biggest star was the dreadful "let's make love" while Paramount double crossed capote, didn't care what he wanted or thought and audrey was cast in it... had marilyn done this, it would have continued her great run with a 1, 2 punch of some like it hot and breakfast at tiffany's

She could possibly have taken the Oscar

[R33] I think Marilyn regarded LET'S MAKE LOVE as her all-time worst movie.

SOMETHING'S GOT TO GIVE would have been a hit. Fox knew how to make and market this kind of movie and Marilyn could act it okay. And I only say "okay" because Doris Day is much, much better in MOVE OVER DARLING than Marilyn is in this, at least according to the extant footage. Marilyn's timing is too slow and she's not reacting to things like Doris. Maybe she would have improved. That said, her look for this movie was sensational - one of my very favorite looks for her. Losing the weight made a HUGE difference.

In SOMETHING'S GOT TO GIVE Marilyn was so stoned on drugs she acts like a sleep walker.

She was loved and still very popular. But I don't think she was stable, she seemed so fragile, it did not seem she could survive.

[R37] Just watched that footage. She's not sharp and she's not playing it enough like a comedy. She's too wistful when she should be more inquisitive.

R37 love how she goes from her real voice, reassuring the kids, to her breathy little girl voice. She looks wonderful too.

[quote]She's not sharp and she's not playing it enough like a comedy. She's too wistful when she should be more inquisitive.

Thank you Paula Strasberg.