Meh.
This will be a camp classic!
by Anonymous | reply 1 | June 17, 2020 4:54 PM |
I’m sure it will be the usual flat performance from Ms. Stewart.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | June 17, 2020 4:55 PM |
Lohan for Fergie!
by Anonymous | reply 3 | June 17, 2020 4:56 PM |
Stewart has none of Diana's softness, with which she charmed the public and the camera. Though she can occasionally turn in a good performance, she's hardly going to embody a woman Clive James described as, "Like the Sun coming up - if the Sun came up giggling."
Seeing Diana depicted as some sort of crusading feminist for what she did will be a most discouraging spectacle.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | June 17, 2020 5:00 PM |
Kristen Stewart is total white trash. She couldn't be any more miscast playing Diana.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | June 17, 2020 5:04 PM |
A dead-eyed zombie with no charisma is going to portray the most spectacular woman of her era (love her or hate her)? You have to laugh.
And Diana didn’t ‘decide’ to divorce Charles — the Queen wrote to both Charles and Diana and pretty much ordered them to end the marriage.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | June 17, 2020 5:08 PM |
KStew playing a straight woman and making out with men, it jist doesn't work
by Anonymous | reply 8 | June 17, 2020 5:09 PM |
Why is she still a thing in Hollywood?
Stop trying to make Fetch happen!
by Anonymous | reply 9 | June 17, 2020 5:13 PM |
Robert Pattinson would make a more beautiful Princess Diana.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | June 17, 2020 5:13 PM |
I honestly think it's good casting. Diana was mentally ill.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | June 17, 2020 5:14 PM |
having watched Charlie's Angels, I think she can do it. She was very charismatic in that, frankly it shocked me
by Anonymous | reply 13 | June 17, 2020 5:19 PM |
Look at it this way: The role didn't go to Ruby Rose.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | June 17, 2020 5:20 PM |
It is very good casting. This actress was made for film.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | June 17, 2020 5:32 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 17 | June 17, 2020 5:46 PM |
Didn’t anyone learn from the Naomi Watts movie from a few years ago? It was a disaster, even though Watts looked passably like Diana, can do an English accent and can actually convey emotion.
I suspect the Diana story will never be depicted accurately on screen, because no studio will ever have the nerve to make her the villain.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | June 17, 2020 7:41 PM |
Nicole Kidman is likely the best actress to do this type of role: But she won't touch this stuff with a 10 foot pole.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | June 17, 2020 7:45 PM |
I really thought Idris Elba had it in the bag
by Anonymous | reply 20 | June 17, 2020 7:51 PM |
We need a professional victim to play the role--Demi Lovato, are you here?
by Anonymous | reply 21 | June 17, 2020 7:53 PM |
R18 I would pay good money to see an accurate film about Diana and her various borderline personality disordered antics. Scenes of her stalking various married lovers, throwing herself down the steps while pregnant, assaulting her stepmother and having weekly emotional meltdowns would have a certain camp appeal. It would be fantastic if they hired an actress who would go all out, like Dunaway in Mommie Dearest. She was really closer to Glenn Closes character in fatal attraction than the helpless girl child her fans see her as.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | June 17, 2020 7:55 PM |
Hmm, if Diana mumbled a lot, twirled her hair, bit her lip and slouched a lot, and looked like she hated her life, maybe. Well maybe the last part was true. But KStew is an awful choice.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | June 17, 2020 7:58 PM |
Two words: Rosamund Pike.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | June 17, 2020 8:05 PM |
Kristen is about seven inches shorter than Di.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | June 17, 2020 8:05 PM |
Sam Smith could play her.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | June 17, 2020 8:06 PM |
So many questions. They can't get a Brit actress? Can KStew do british accent? Isn't she too young not too mention too butch?
by Anonymous | reply 28 | June 17, 2020 8:10 PM |
Excuse me, but Sam Smith is the greatest nonbinary actress alive.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | June 17, 2020 8:11 PM |
Give it to Ben Whishaw. He's retiring as fuck.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | June 17, 2020 8:12 PM |
R17 That made me want to slap the shit out of her.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | June 17, 2020 8:12 PM |
R17, I'm really fucking glad I never saw Twilight. But hey, I will say, she has more charm in those clips than Natalie Portman when crying (admittedly 95% of the time).
by Anonymous | reply 32 | June 17, 2020 8:14 PM |
[R19] I think you're forgetting that Nicole already tanked in this type of role by playing Princess Grace in a very bad but watchable biopic. And Nicole's BFF Naomi Watts tanked playing Princess Diana in a very bad biopic that was not watchable. Poor Kristen - Diana is the kiss of death.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | June 17, 2020 8:15 PM |
Well she film a scene traipsing through a minefield in Angola?
by Anonymous | reply 34 | June 17, 2020 8:17 PM |
I'm aware of the hate for Kristen Stewart on DL and so I am proceeding gingerly. I have not seen the TWILIGHT movies but recently watched PERSONAL SHOPPER, which was basically my introduction to Kristen Stewart, the actress. She was terrific in the role, even though it was a very flawed movie. She can definitely act but I can understand why she'd be hard to cast.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | June 17, 2020 8:18 PM |
Nice pic r19. I would've pounded Tammy's hole until my dick was sore.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | June 17, 2020 8:39 PM |
I am so tired of biopics and articles about Princess Diana, Jackie Kennedy, and Marilyn Monroe. Enough, there are no shortage of glamorous people to pay homage to besides these 3 (overrated ) women.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | June 17, 2020 8:43 PM |
“Hold my beer”
by Anonymous | reply 38 | June 17, 2020 8:49 PM |
At least Diana and Marilyn were attractive. Jackie Kennedy looks like the result of too much inbreeding.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | June 17, 2020 8:51 PM |
Jackie's eyes are very wide apart, almost didn't make onto the same face.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | June 17, 2020 8:56 PM |
I vote Meghan Markle as BEST casting choice for Princess Diana!
by Anonymous | reply 41 | June 17, 2020 9:05 PM |
Diana shouldn't be cast at all. It's a thankless, impossible task. No one who's tried it has succeeded at it. The myth is too big and none of the actresses have, you should excuse the expression, the candlepower of the original.
That goes for the narrative, as well. No film could possibly have the impact the original True Life Story did as it was happening.
Give it up, HW.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | June 17, 2020 9:05 PM |
Di looked pretty gay in her later years with the clothing she wore
by Anonymous | reply 43 | June 17, 2020 9:11 PM |
I think you're right there, r42. However, maybe some day. Maybe we're all too close to it, maybe in 20 years there'll be a great, great actress but by then that actress would be so unfamiliar with the times in which PD lived. Helen Mirren did a superb Queen Elizabeth. Captured the Queen's "essence" without the melodrama typical of a lot of actresses. I voted for Kidman up thread, knowing she bombed as Princess Grace. But Kidman had done very good roles and has the intellectual curiosity, to at least explore the PD character. Plus Kidman (despite the endless plastic surgery) is captivating physically, has the stature physically of Diana and the translucent skin.
Stewart is an idiotic thoughtless choice. Seen her in Twilight and she looked like she was coming out of a 100 year coma.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | June 17, 2020 9:15 PM |
Expect Di to sigh, look down and run her fingers through her hair many times in the movie.
Could be a fun drinking game.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | June 17, 2020 9:17 PM |
The movie might be fun if it depicted Diana as the hysterical, promiscuous, deceptive, self-serving, bipolar mess that she probably was. But for some reason there's an imperative to depict her as St. Diana, martyred woman. I don't want to see the latter movie.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | June 17, 2020 9:26 PM |
Rosamund Pike wasn't available?
by Anonymous | reply 47 | June 17, 2020 9:37 PM |
It sounds like an interesting idea for a movie. I’ll watch it.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | June 17, 2020 9:38 PM |
[quote] I can understand why she'd be hard to cast.
R35 Not at all. But she needs a good director. She’s not an old school drama school thespian type. She an actress made for the movies who must be handled well. And photographs beautifully from any angle.
Yes. She was terrific in Personal Shopper. See Twilight too. But only the first one not the dreck sequels.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | June 17, 2020 9:40 PM |
How does Stewart get any roles at all
by Anonymous | reply 50 | June 17, 2020 9:41 PM |
Margot Robbie would make a great Di.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | June 17, 2020 9:45 PM |
R43, in R19's pic, Diana looks like Rue McClanahan
by Anonymous | reply 52 | June 17, 2020 10:09 PM |
[R49] Okay - will do!
by Anonymous | reply 53 | June 17, 2020 10:19 PM |
Has anyone here seen Kidmans' Princess Grace or Watts ' Princess Diana films? Were they so bad it's good or just plain bad? I occasionally enjoy unintentionally funny films.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | June 17, 2020 10:40 PM |
I saw Kidman's Princess Grace film--it was just dull. They wanted a kind of Hitchcockian atmosphere, but it's impossible to feel any sympathy for Kidman's Princess Grace. She's icy and unsympathetic.
Why Kidman became such a gigantic star is something I will never understand. She's a decent actress, but she's cold and unsympathetic.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | June 17, 2020 10:42 PM |
Diana looked like a PE instructor.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | June 17, 2020 10:47 PM |
R55 I see. It might be worth watching if it provided a few laughs but boring isn't worth it. I agree on your assessment of Kidman. Technically talented but lacking in any human warmth .
by Anonymous | reply 57 | June 17, 2020 10:49 PM |
Who is KS related to? What blackmail info does she possess? Outside of some franchise her movies don't make money. Is she independently wealthy?
by Anonymous | reply 58 | June 17, 2020 10:51 PM |
R55 She became a tabloid fixture after the Tom Cruise divorce. She pretty much leveraged that to boost her career and proved, time and time again, that she can act. Once she got her Oscar she became a prestige casting choice for directors, which has solidified her status as one of the most sought after actresses of the era.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | June 17, 2020 10:52 PM |
Casting Helen Mirren was laughable. Pure vanity casting. Miriam Margoyles would have made much more sense.
Although if they were looking for a name, they should have permed Russell Brand's hair and put him in a dress. It would have been accurate.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | June 17, 2020 10:52 PM |
I think we all know that there's really only one actress who can believably capture Princess Diana and bring the awards in.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | June 17, 2020 10:52 PM |
After the Twilight franchise, she's got to be set for life
by Anonymous | reply 62 | June 17, 2020 10:52 PM |
20 years ago, I would have said Emma Thompson.
Kristen Stewart is an awful choice.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | June 17, 2020 10:54 PM |
[quote]Miriam Margoyles would have made much more sense.
Playing who? Winston Churchill?
by Anonymous | reply 64 | June 17, 2020 10:54 PM |
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by Anonymous | reply 65 | June 17, 2020 10:57 PM |
[R65] Wow! She does look like her! Can Emily Blunt act? Or is she another one of the Harvey Girls?
by Anonymous | reply 67 | June 17, 2020 11:01 PM |
Yes r66 I liked Jackie too. I think Pablo Larrain is an interesting choice as director.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | June 17, 2020 11:03 PM |
I thought Watts was good as Diana and enjoyed the film (for what it was). I mean it's basically a lifetime movie it's not high art. I also enjoyed Kidman as Princess Grace and was surprised I did. But it's hard to really recommend the movies.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | June 17, 2020 11:04 PM |
Naomi Watts was believable, but agree it was a draggy Hallmark type thing. This one will span three days, which could easily seem like three eternities. I saw Stewart in Seberg..for two minutes. Didn't make it out of the first scene.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | June 17, 2020 11:50 PM |
What about me? I would be just great in that part.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | June 17, 2020 11:52 PM |
Oh? Is she good at puking?
by Anonymous | reply 72 | June 18, 2020 12:16 AM |
Did not see that coming. I don't think she can pull Diana off. The accent is going to be a mess.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | June 18, 2020 3:19 AM |
How in the hell does she keep getting roles. She's one of the worst actresses I've ever seen. Is another crappy actor Robert Patterson playing Prince Charles.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | June 18, 2020 3:28 AM |
Shy Di was a bit awkward like Kristen. Their faces are also similar.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | June 18, 2020 3:59 AM |
They need to cast Scott Thompson and queen Elizabeth
by Anonymous | reply 77 | June 18, 2020 4:36 AM |
I saw the previews for SEBERG. This heifer cannot act to save her life. Lousy actress.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | June 18, 2020 4:39 AM |
She should stop trying to depict real women who are straight.
Saw her recently in some Woody Allen movie where she plays the love interest of both Steve Carell and Jesse Eisenberg.
For some reason, Woody makes all his actresses have the same stilted speech and mannerisms, so she fit right in. But watching her do kissing scenes was painful. Like she had a gun to her head. And she looked uncomfortable in the dresses.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | June 18, 2020 4:50 AM |
As if she'd know a ten foot pole, r19.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | June 18, 2020 5:10 AM |
No, no, no, no. Not even remotely like Diana. I know people here hate Diana and make fun of her death, but she had a spark Stewart does not have.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | June 18, 2020 5:12 AM |
I endured Seberg. The bitch can barely fog a mirror.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | June 18, 2020 5:22 AM |
I just watched some trailers for movies Stewart is in on YouTube - she's embarrassing in Seberg, is a joke in Underwater. She has no charisma or magnetism, which an actor needs, cannot do psychological depth or get under the skin of a character, doesn't even look good physically (I don't just mean the fact she's physically unattractive but that she shuffles, is slouchy), and is just generally a bad actor.
She will totally fuck up a role like Diana, which needs psychological depth and subtlety, magnetism and a raw physical attraction as well as acting skills (I cringe at the thought of Stewart's efforts at an upper-class British accent).
Hollywood needs to stop pumping money into her and start investing in some new young actresses.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | June 18, 2020 8:47 AM |
I guess she keep getting roles r74 because, for some reason she has an enduring fanbase (even though her movies are flops) and also, I suspect, because she's probably easy to work with and relatively drama-free. It can't be because of her acting skills, since she doesn't have any.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | June 18, 2020 8:50 AM |
Frankly, I worry about her choices. She's making stupid choices. Move to France, girl, and make interesting movies again.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | June 18, 2020 1:55 PM |
I'm surprised I wasn't offered this role. Everyone knows I am the most talented SERIOUS actor. Just take a look at my Getting-into-character Marilyn video!! I am a METHOD actor. Although I do feel I am perhaps a bit TOO beautiful to play Di.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | June 18, 2020 2:11 PM |
a good reason not to watch it
by Anonymous | reply 88 | June 18, 2020 2:24 PM |
R87 That video always makes me laugh. It's like she's doing a parody of a self important and pretentious actress.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | June 18, 2020 2:49 PM |
Can’t Meryl coach her lookalike daughter through this?
by Anonymous | reply 90 | June 18, 2020 2:54 PM |
Helen Lawson can do this role with her eyes closed.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | June 18, 2020 2:57 PM |
Like R90 above, I, too, was going to suggest Meryl's daughter. Her limited range would be perfect for depicting one weekend in the life of Lady Di.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | June 18, 2020 3:15 PM |
It's important not to cast someone with a sharp nose. I'm staunch on that point.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | June 18, 2020 3:17 PM |
Casting KStew means this film is either a slam on Diana or someone is going "The Producers" route and setting it up to fail. KStew as Dianais an insult and it will flop like all her other non-Twilight films.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | June 18, 2020 3:20 PM |
Oh no! This is one of the worst casting mistakes ever.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | June 18, 2020 3:25 PM |
R89 Oh I'm so glad you enjoy that video too. I think I've posted it at least 3 times on DL. It is EPIC. She seriously looks and acts "on the spectrum."
by Anonymous | reply 96 | June 18, 2020 3:31 PM |
meant I'm R87^^.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | June 18, 2020 3:31 PM |
Rod Stewart would make a better Princess Diana.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | June 18, 2020 11:44 PM |
I never got why people loved her so much. It’s an interesting story but she was never very good looking or fashionable. Even though her life is interesting because it’s so far removed from my own she never accomplished that much. She married into wealth and glamour and enjoyed it like anybody else would.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | June 19, 2020 2:56 AM |
Model, Edie Campbell, looks lovely as Lady Di in a fashion editorial for Vogue.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | June 19, 2020 3:10 AM |
I think they've asked Stephen Fry to play the Queen Mother.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | June 19, 2020 3:27 AM |
[quote]I never got why people loved her so much. It’s an interesting story but she was never very good looking or fashionable. Even though her life is interesting because it’s so far removed from my own she never accomplished that much. She married into wealth and glamour and enjoyed it like anybody else would.
I was never a Diana fan, but I recently read Andrew Morton's book because it was updated to include up to her death.
I think she wasn't stable before she entered the Royal Family. Her parents divorce seemed to really affect her (and in some ways I can see how, for example her grandmother testified in court that the mother was not fit to care for the children). What surprised me was how much she relied on the occult, getting her tarot cards read, etc. She was deeply into that New Age stuff and I think that also affected her mind.
What I did take away from the book is that towards the end of her marriage, she finally seemed to mature. She went into the marriage unfocused and not having any direction. As she leaves the marriage, she seemed to be more settled in that she wanted to work with the down and out people in society. AIDS patients, hospice patients, etc. I think if someone had helped her focus on that, she would have been more at peace with her life. However, she was still chasing the high life by dating Dodi and had she lived, she would have needed to settle that aspect of her life because I don't think Dodi would have stayed with her and he would have been cheating on her shortly after their marriage. (I think it says in the book that Dodi's father gave him an allowance of 1 million pounds per month). Basically Dodi didn't have to work, and I wonder if his unfocused life would have affected Diana's unfocused life.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | June 19, 2020 3:40 AM |
She was a conflicted person, hated the press but used the press. Genuinely wanted to help people, but was also very selfish. Wanted to be a good mom, yet was halfway across the world a lot of the time. Her relationship with Fayed seems to have been a passing fancy, she wanted to piss off the BRF and spend the summer on a really nice yacht in the Mediterranean. She teased the paps days before her death, but then let her driver dangerously speed through Paris to evade them. Mixed-up lady.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | June 19, 2020 4:35 AM |
Her affair with Dodi wouldn't have lasted. She would've settled down with a man who was much more stable and "appropriate" if she had lived.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | June 19, 2020 5:18 AM |
I'm dating myself here, but Anthony Edwards did a great job as Lady Di.
by Anonymous | reply 106 | June 19, 2020 5:24 AM |
How does this no talent flop maker keep getting parts ???
by Anonymous | reply 107 | June 19, 2020 6:01 AM |
[quote] (I think it says in the book that Dodi's father gave him an allowance of 1 million pounds per month).
Guess that wasn't enough r, 103 because Dodi was hassling Paul Anka for $200,,000 or whatever (can't remember) to support coke habit or whatever else Dodi was up to. Anka wrote about it in his biography I think. No big secret.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | June 19, 2020 12:51 PM |
Many fans of the late Princess of Wales and royal insiders took to social media platforms to voice their anger of the unconventional and out of tune casting of Stewart for the role of Diana.
“The casting of one of the world’s most famous women in Stewart just shows how out of tune the makers are with what the public’s image and above all love for such a great lady is,” Neil Sean U.K. media correspondent and author of “The A to Z of Harry and Meghan,” told Fox News.
Tom Quinn, author of “Kensington Palace: An Intimate Memoir from Queen Mary to Meghan Markle,” expressed concern over the critical focus on Stewart’s accent, while Sean added that “the news here in the U.K. is simply this… Why? There are many British actresses who would have been better for this role.”
Fans tweeted criticism of Stewart lacking emotion and range for the role, and inquiring to replace her with a real British actress.
One user by the Twitter handle ‘Al3xD003’ wrote, “She can play awkward, angry and moody roles. Can she play soft, vulnerable, sensual though? Often, it comes down to innate facial range and tone of voice. Kristen has never displayed this even when seducing men on screen. Diana was not angsty or hard. She was delicate and raw.”
Another fan, Monika Up, voiced her opinion via Twitter, “I don’t object the actress herself but Kristen is not suitable at all for playing Princess Diana. She is not even British! At least consider Emily Blunt, Kate Winslet or someone else, but Kristen Stewart, that’s a doubt raising cast.”
“Princess Diana smiled a lot, does KS even smile at all? Ever?” Jill Nicole commented on Twitter.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | June 19, 2020 2:06 PM |
Has the man who emitted the famous Diana Scream commented?
by Anonymous | reply 110 | June 19, 2020 2:09 PM |
[quote] Fans tweeted criticism of Stewart lacking emotion and range for the role, and inquiring to replace her with a real British actress.
Oh, that's rich! How many British actors have played Americans when a *real* American actor could have played the role?
by Anonymous | reply 111 | June 19, 2020 2:12 PM |
R111 While I don't personally care if brits play Americans I don't buy the idea many seem to have that Brits can do American accents effortlessly. There is always something "off" in the sound of their voices. Australians too.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | June 19, 2020 2:15 PM |
Brits consume American media. The reverse is much less true. Hence, Brits can pass better as Americans.
Anyway, I'm sure there were articles like this when Renee was announced for Bridget Jones. But she was well received in the role... time will tell with Kristen.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | June 19, 2020 2:17 PM |
I noticed that as well, r112. Maybe because I've lived overseas (Australia), speak a 2nd language, but I'm always curious to hear actors speaking what is them a "foreign" language or accent. With very very few exceptions, you can pick off their native language right away. Eg. Emma Thompson cannot do an American accent if she had a gun to her head.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | June 19, 2020 2:18 PM |
Sorry, make that a "believable" American accent.
by Anonymous | reply 115 | June 19, 2020 2:19 PM |
[quote]I don't buy the idea many seem to have that Brits can do American accents effortlessly. There is always something "off" in the sound of their voices
Two reasons that I've seen.
1. They go with a stereotypical regional accent like the hard, nasal Brooklyn "tough guy" accent or the Texas drawl.
2. They don't get the "song" of the accent. Doing an accent is not just pronouncing the words the way a native does. There's a "song" behind every accent with phrases rising and lowering. That's the problem that dear Meryl had with her Irish accent in Dancing At Lughnasa. She couldn't integrate the "music" of the accent with her emotional intentions.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | June 19, 2020 2:31 PM |
WTAF? How do we put a stop to this? I want to talk to a manager. She's not attractive and by that I mean neither a beauty nor sexy nor interesting or "hot". She's not funny. She's not unique. She is a dullard. So I think, Okay, it's another Sondra Locke but no and I can't even imagine her competent or enthusiastic in the sack either; I DON'T GET IT. But that's fine, do your shitty hick vampire movies and don't bother me BUT LADY DI? AYFKM???
TO THE STREETS.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | June 19, 2020 2:39 PM |
Diana wasn't exactly hot, either. She had a touch of Miss Potato Face. But she radiated vulnerability and the will to please. Stewart has none of that.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | June 19, 2020 2:42 PM |
OK, listen up you queers. You are going to see me in this role and you are going to like, nay, LOVE me in this role. If you don't, you'll regret it. Muriel and I go waaaaaaaay back!
by Anonymous | reply 119 | June 19, 2020 2:45 PM |
I'm not an actor. But it seems to be you need an actor or actress who can "inhabit" a role, make it part of their fabric, their persona. KS has none of that ability. She's like a black hole - nothing comes out. You need someone with a presence, stature, degree of intellect, emotional intelligence - whatever else secret ingredients make a fictional or real life character come to life and make that character believable. KS again, has none of that ability. Zero. Zip.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | June 19, 2020 3:24 PM |
It's funny how some Americans here are ridiculing the efforts of British actors to adopt an American accent, when the real problem is the idea of Kristen Stewart having to adopt not just an average British accent but an upper-class aristocratic accent, specifically the accent and style of speaking of one of the world's most famous women. Especially when Stewart has never shown that she has any kind of range or nuance.
by Anonymous | reply 121 | June 19, 2020 3:50 PM |
Exactly r120, and this isn't just any old role but the role of a real-life famous person who has millions of fans. KS will really have to get Diana right.
The film's producers might have thought that getting KS for the role of Diana would get Stewart's fans to see the movie, but they never reckoned with the response of Diana's fans.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | June 19, 2020 3:52 PM |
Most people of Stewart's age won't have a strong memory of Diana, though.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | June 19, 2020 3:54 PM |
I love the near-universal outrage this casting has produced. It’s such a nice counter to the ridiculous Kardashian-level PR KStew’s team has been buying for years that she’s the greatest actress of her generation and an A-list movie star. Her abysmal acting and equally abysmal box office numbers say otherwise. Hopefully the industry folks who’ve been playing along finally wake up that it’s not worth embarrassing themselves this way.
by Anonymous | reply 124 | June 19, 2020 4:11 PM |
R123, because I'm a Brit, on Instagram I made the mistake of following/looking through some of the accounts of members of the royal family, and now I see ceaseless royal family fan accounts in my Explore section. Many are obsessed with Diana and no way are they run by people who actually have any memory of Diana while she was still alive.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | June 19, 2020 4:35 PM |
^ To add, probably none of these royal/Diana fan accounts are actually run by Brits.
by Anonymous | reply 126 | June 19, 2020 4:36 PM |
Diana was actually quite superficial and trashy, as well as being a lousy, neglectful mother (probably due to her own experiences with her mother). She was a rich playgirl who liked sex, drugs, fashion, etc. - a fun life to look at from the outside but you wouldn't want her as your wife or mother. It's her victim complex that makes her insufferable to me. If anyone was in a position to take charge of her life and be productive, it was her. Instead, she preferred coke-fueled outings on yachts while her boys were raised by nannies. There's little that's admirable about the woman. The shock of her unexpected death warped the reality of who she actually was all out of proportion - kind of like Marilyn Monroe.
by Anonymous | reply 127 | June 19, 2020 4:40 PM |
R127 Quite true. But she has a devoted contingent who will never see her as anything but the fragile lamb destroyed by the machinations of Charles and Camilla. My favorite oft repeated line about Diana was "She was a naive 19 year old virgin! " as if she stayed that way in perpetuity.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | June 19, 2020 4:49 PM |
I agree, r124. I am mystified as to how such an empty void as devoid of charisma and personality as Kristen Stewart became so successful. She's such a nothing, I don't get it at all.
by Anonymous | reply 129 | June 19, 2020 6:13 PM |
Yes, she is both bored and boring.
by Anonymous | reply 130 | June 19, 2020 6:20 PM |
R129, she has parents in the industry.
by Anonymous | reply 131 | June 19, 2020 6:21 PM |
I think it's a combination of twilight and her media appeal (fashion muse and dating life).
by Anonymous | reply 132 | June 19, 2020 6:24 PM |
All her Twilight money goes to PR. It's not as though she spends it on her appearance or hygiene.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | June 19, 2020 6:26 PM |
"the real problem is the idea of Kristen Stewart having to adopt not just an average British accent but an upper-class aristocratic accent, specifically the accent and style of speaking of one of the world's most famous women."
There are plenty videos of Diana speaking. All Stewart needs is a good ear. Whether she has that or not remains to be seen.
by Anonymous | reply 134 | June 20, 2020 2:26 AM |
R123 I'm the age of the audience she appeals to. It's true we don't have much (or any) memory of Diana at all, but she's someone we ALL know about as an iconic celebrity figure, seriously in the same ranks as Elvis and Marilyn, just in a different vertical (royalty). Kristen's actual fanbase is questioning this choice, that's just how bizarre this casting seems.
by Anonymous | reply 135 | June 20, 2020 2:52 AM |
No actress will ever be able to match Diana’s ability to communicate with the camera. She was, as someone once wrote, the last silent film star. She was rarely heard and usually seen only in still photographs (especially in the early years) but she told her story with a tilt of the chin, a lowering of eyelashes and maybe a slight smile. She was a master performer and no actress will ever be able to tell her story half as well as she told it herself.
by Anonymous | reply 136 | June 20, 2020 3:21 AM |
They could cast Lady Kitty Spencer. She's not an actor, but KS isn't much of one either.
At least Lady Kitty doesn't look like she smells unwashed.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | June 20, 2020 3:38 AM |
Who will play Dodi Fayed?
by Anonymous | reply 138 | June 20, 2020 4:08 AM |
I don't see all the fuss. It's not as though they've hired a black actress to play the Little Mermaid.
by Anonymous | reply 139 | June 20, 2020 4:10 AM |
Bulldyke
by Anonymous | reply 140 | June 20, 2020 4:25 AM |
R127 Yea if they actually do a warts and all movie then Kristen isn't far off as a casting choice since she can understand both the aspect of fame..and understand being such a mess. It's mainly the idea of Dianna the saint that's creating the disconnect.
by Anonymous | reply 141 | June 20, 2020 4:41 AM |
Like the girl from the Vampire movies. She absolutely ruined On The Road.
by Anonymous | reply 142 | June 20, 2020 5:30 AM |
R141 "It's mainly the idea of Dianna the saint that's creating the disconnect."
Not true. Whatever you think of the "real" Diana, there is no denying her charisma and it-factor. Stewart has neither--she's a dead-eyed mouth breather.
by Anonymous | reply 143 | June 20, 2020 5:52 AM |
Kristen was good as Joan Jett in the Runaways. But it probably helped that JJ was alive for her to shadow.
by Anonymous | reply 144 | June 20, 2020 6:08 AM |
^ Funny, I thought she was terrible as Joan. Young Joan was quite lively and engaging, not mopey and expressionless. Dakota Fanning was the only good thing in that film.
by Anonymous | reply 145 | June 20, 2020 6:17 AM |
Kristen was complete and utter shit as Joan Jett, and that's with all the training from the real Joan Jett.
by Anonymous | reply 146 | June 20, 2020 8:07 AM |
She always comes across as a sullen, ill-tempered dyke no matter what role she's playing.
by Anonymous | reply 147 | June 20, 2020 8:08 AM |
[Quote] They could cast Lady Kitty Spencer.
... as Heidi Klum, r137?
by Anonymous | reply 148 | June 20, 2020 8:24 AM |
I can’t wait for Kristen to work her 3 facial expressions
by Anonymous | reply 149 | June 20, 2020 8:25 AM |
3 is a stretch, r149.
by Anonymous | reply 150 | June 20, 2020 8:45 AM |
"Actors are cattle." - Alfred Hitchcock
Alfred Hitchcock didn't care about the actors' acting ability and regarded actors as "animated props". For Hitchcock, the actors were part of the film's setting. He told François Truffaut: "The chief requisite for an actor is the ability to do nothing well, which is by no means as easy as it sounds. He should be willing to be used and wholly integrated into the picture by the director and the camera. He must allow the camera to determine the proper emphasis and the most effective dramatic highlights."
by Anonymous | reply 151 | June 20, 2020 9:37 AM |
That's self flattering bullshit from Hitchcock. A characterisation required by, say, Marnie (of MARNIE) was achieved simply by letting the camera do its thing? No.
by Anonymous | reply 152 | June 20, 2020 9:48 AM |
The "Hitchcockian" style includes the use of camera movement to mimic a person's gaze, thereby turning viewers into voyeurs, and framing shots to maximise anxiety and fear. That's why he considered the acting ability of actors to be unimportant.
by Anonymous | reply 153 | June 20, 2020 10:28 AM |
[Quote] That's why he considered the acting ability of actors to be unimportant.
That's one technique to one end. Was Marnie's breakdown scene achieved purely by camera movement? No, it wasn't. Voice, facial expression - there were numerous factors at play. Hitchcock proclamations should not be taken at face value.
by Anonymous | reply 154 | June 20, 2020 10:33 AM |
I can’t bear her. She looks so tough, like a complete tart.
by Anonymous | reply 155 | June 20, 2020 10:35 AM |
R154 Tippi Hedren is a mediocre actress who didn't achieve much success after the Hitchcock films. Tippi was a cold fish, who often looked cold and unemotional in Hitchcock films. A 1964 New York Times film review called "Marnie" Hitchcock's "most disappointing film in years", citing Hedren's and Connery's lack of experience. Hitchcock had a tendency to hire cold and unemotional actresses like Hedren and Grace Kelly.
by Anonymous | reply 156 | June 20, 2020 11:17 AM |
Kristen Stewart's face and body wouldn't even work in a Hitchcock movie.
by Anonymous | reply 157 | June 20, 2020 11:38 AM |
r156
No one said Hedren was good. Your response doesn't address my point.
And anyone who's seen Grace Kelly in "Rear Window" could never describe her as cold, unless their faculties are failing them.
by Anonymous | reply 158 | June 20, 2020 11:42 AM |
r36 I was thinking the same thing, he still looked good then
by Anonymous | reply 159 | June 20, 2020 12:37 PM |
[quote]I was thinking the same thing, he still looked good then
But what about me?
by Anonymous | reply 160 | June 20, 2020 1:34 PM |
What's up with receding bottom lips? I get that as people age, their lips get thinner but it looks like the pink recedes but not the whole lip... Most unsettling.
by Anonymous | reply 162 | June 20, 2020 1:49 PM |
[quote] It's funny how some Americans here are ridiculing the efforts of British actors to adopt an American accent, when the real problem is the idea of Kristen Stewart having to adopt not just an average British accent but an upper-class aristocratic accent, specifically the accent and style of speaking of one of the world's most famous women.
I doubt any British actress speaks that way as their natural accent, so they would need to affect it just as much as Stewart would.
by Anonymous | reply 163 | June 20, 2020 2:44 PM |
There are plenty of posh British actresses. Are you kidding?
by Anonymous | reply 164 | June 20, 2020 2:46 PM |
she absolutely sucked as Joan Jett but, I am telling you, she was incandescent in Charlie's Angels. those are the only 2 things I think i have seen her in.
by Anonymous | reply 165 | June 20, 2020 3:35 PM |
[quote] Hitchcock proclamations should not be taken at face value.
This is another reason I like De Palma more than Hitchcock. Hitchcock manages to get good performances even out of mediocre actors. Was Hitchcock capable of that? I think De Palma had more respect for actors. Which is funny because De Palma's movies have figures whereas Hitchcock's have characters.
by Anonymous | reply 166 | June 20, 2020 5:20 PM |
[quote] Tippi was a cold fish, who often looked cold and unemotional in Hitchcock films.
Uh, that's why she was perfect for Marnie. She was an alluring kleptomaniac with a background of abuse. Was she supposed to be warm and cuddly?
by Anonymous | reply 167 | June 20, 2020 5:22 PM |
Given the stupidity in casting thus far, r138 expect another stupid decision for Dodi's character such as Jackie Chan.
by Anonymous | reply 168 | June 20, 2020 7:20 PM |
Wilmer Valderama IS Dodi.
by Anonymous | reply 169 | June 20, 2020 7:29 PM |
Poor Taylor; it seems he just stopped working altogether.
by Anonymous | reply 171 | June 20, 2020 7:47 PM |
Dodi is possibly the dumbest name I've ever heard. Wtf is up with rich people and their cutesy names??
by Anonymous | reply 172 | June 20, 2020 7:53 PM |
You realize everyone isn't a WASP?
by Anonymous | reply 173 | June 20, 2020 8:05 PM |
R158 Hedren did a decent, passable job in Marnie's breakdown but I wasn't impressed. As I said, movie critics at the time didn't like Hedren's performance in Marnie.
I find Grace Kelly to be a boring actress who had little charm.
R167 I never said that Hedren wasn't perfect for the part.
Some DLers here think that actors have to show a lot of emotion to be a good actor. It depends on the role that they are playing. People seem to forget that Shy Di was rather shy and rarely made any speeches.
by Anonymous | reply 174 | June 20, 2020 8:39 PM |
It's a shame "Marnie" didn't film after "Goldfinger" had premiered. Honor Blackman would have been much better than Hedren.
by Anonymous | reply 175 | June 20, 2020 8:41 PM |
Characters that don't show emotion are harder to play. The audience can easily get bored and check out. It's a trickier tightrope to walk.
by Anonymous | reply 176 | June 20, 2020 8:42 PM |
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by Anonymous | reply 177 | June 20, 2020 8:57 PM |
[quote]People seem to forget that Shy Di was rather shy and rarely made any speeches.
Until it came time for her to spill her guts and get revenge on Charles on national TV. Then she wouldn't shut up.
by Anonymous | reply 179 | June 20, 2020 10:27 PM |
I’ll never forget when I was a kid growing up on Canada people were actually upset when Charles and Diana divorces. These old dudes were giving a press conference and openly weeping.
by Anonymous | reply 181 | June 21, 2020 1:25 AM |
Shy and introverted is not the same as expressionless and blank. Quite the opposite actually. KStew's perpetually sullen face doesn't give her characters depth, it just flattens them. For an excellent example of playing a character who tries not to reveal much, watch Anthony Hopkins in Remains of the Day, Rosamund Pike in Pride and Prejudice (or Susannah Harker in the 90s miniseries version), and the prototype: Bud Cort in Harold and Maude.
by Anonymous | reply 182 | June 21, 2020 2:13 AM |
K Stew at 5 ft 4 is way too small and skinny. A really bad choice.
by Anonymous | reply 183 | June 21, 2020 2:17 AM |
She will not make this film.
by Anonymous | reply 184 | June 21, 2020 2:55 AM |
Princess Di pinged hard (I’m still shocked by how few people notice this). So at least they have that in common.
by Anonymous | reply 185 | June 21, 2020 3:22 AM |
If Stewart can just binge and purge more and practice pole vaulting in preparation for the scene where she throws herself down the stairs, she will be tolerable. But that's it.
by Anonymous | reply 186 | June 21, 2020 3:27 AM |
Paris Tunnel Research Trip!
by Anonymous | reply 187 | June 21, 2020 3:28 AM |
I said in another thread a few week ago, "According to L Chatters, Queen Elizabeth II pings", but I said it as a joke. L Chatters are truly off their rockers.
by Anonymous | reply 188 | June 21, 2020 3:43 AM |
Couldn't they have found an actress with blue eyes?
by Anonymous | reply 189 | June 21, 2020 3:56 AM |
I remember when Anne Rice and her fans were initially upset with the casting choice of Tom Cruise as Lestat in "Interview with the Vampire". Rice quickly changed her mind after watching the film.
Tom Cruise proved to be a good choice because of the Yin and Yang relationship between Cruise and Brad Pitt.
by Anonymous | reply 190 | June 21, 2020 4:07 AM |
I remember when Anne Rice and her fans were initially upset with the casting choice of Tom Cruise as Lestat in "Interview with the Vampire". Rice quickly changed her mind after watching the film.
Tom Cruise proved to be a good choice because of the Yin and Yang relationship between Cruise and Brad Pitt.
by Anonymous | reply 191 | June 21, 2020 4:07 AM |
^^^Oops
by Anonymous | reply 192 | June 21, 2020 4:11 AM |
Tom allegedly wanted to fuck Brad during filming but Brad turned him down and things were very tense for the rest of the shoot.
by Anonymous | reply 193 | June 21, 2020 4:12 AM |
Cruise was actually a good actor though. And even though he hadn't shown qualities that would make him an obvious fit for the Lestat role, he had shown some range by that point. And he actually puts the work into preparing his characters and takes the work seriously (at least he did back then).
So, not a good comparison.
by Anonymous | reply 194 | June 21, 2020 4:21 AM |
Cruise was also very charismatic, had undeniable star quality, and was very fuckable back then.
by Anonymous | reply 195 | June 21, 2020 4:26 AM |
Why not Nicola Walker?
by Anonymous | reply 196 | June 21, 2020 4:31 AM |
Emily Blunt and Emilia Clark are much better choices.
by Anonymous | reply 197 | June 21, 2020 6:10 AM |
Hell, Mama June is a better choice.
by Anonymous | reply 198 | June 21, 2020 6:19 AM |
[Quote]We’re very happy to have her, she’s very committed. As a filmmaker, when you have someone who can hold such a weight, dramatic and narrative weight just with her eyes, then you have the strong lead who can deliver what we are looking for.”
^^ The producer's remarks. Gurl, no.
by Anonymous | reply 199 | June 21, 2020 8:46 AM |
It should be Claire Foy. She has closer features to Diana.
by Anonymous | reply 200 | June 21, 2020 9:11 AM |
Romola Garai!
by Anonymous | reply 201 | June 21, 2020 9:53 AM |
I can clear my schedule -- and I have my own wigs!
by Anonymous | reply 203 | June 21, 2020 1:32 PM |
Edie doesn't quite do it for me either. Her attempt to capture Diana's expression is very superficial, the psychology is missing, and she's staring too directly at the camera, Diana didn't really do that, her gaze was more jumpy.
But Edie is just selling clothes, not supposedly embodying the character of Diana in a movie.
by Anonymous | reply 204 | June 21, 2020 2:12 PM |
First we give the world Trump, now this. She's literally the worst. I can think of a dozen American actresses right now that could play Diana properly. Oh the humanity
by Anonymous | reply 205 | June 21, 2020 4:47 PM |
A young Sophie, Countess of Wessex, resembled Princess Diana.
by Anonymous | reply 206 | June 21, 2020 7:16 PM |
The real question is WHO will play Camilla?
As Karl Lagerfeld said, I'd rather have dinner with Camilla than Diana.
by Anonymous | reply 208 | August 8, 2020 1:26 PM |
[Quote] The real question is WHO will play Camilla?
Would Glenn Close be too cliche??
by Anonymous | reply 209 | August 8, 2020 3:01 PM |
I'll play the sexy young nurse.
by Anonymous | reply 210 | August 8, 2020 3:28 PM |
Oh? Is she nuts too?
by Anonymous | reply 211 | August 8, 2020 5:54 PM |
I'm sorry but she can look as much like Di as she wants, but she's not a good actress.
by Anonymous | reply 213 | January 27, 2021 10:29 PM |
She looks like one of those Japanese sex doll version of Diana. I'm interested in hearing her voice and seeing the way she carries herself.
by Anonymous | reply 214 | January 27, 2021 10:31 PM |
Is this on Netflix? Tiny Kristen Stewart with her narrow green eyes looks nothing like statuesque Diana. What a ludicrous casting.
by Anonymous | reply 215 | January 28, 2021 1:11 AM |
Really laying the upward gaze on thick. As I posted in another thread, she’s too short for that gesture. Same as Naomi. Notice how low the camera is. Her portrayal will be hundred percent sad depressed victim Diana, just the way she played Jean Seberg.
by Anonymous | reply 216 | January 28, 2021 1:33 AM |
*I’ll watch it though, are you kidding?
by Anonymous | reply 217 | January 28, 2021 2:16 AM |
R212 still a no.
by Anonymous | reply 218 | January 28, 2021 6:22 AM |
She doesn't even look like Diana, r213.
She's laying it on too thick, trying too hard to be "psychological" and make Diana appear to be a far more complex character than she was because that's apparently what "acting" is. And yeah, she looks like a sex doll version of Diana or a Diana spaced out on cold remedies and/or tranquilisers.
by Anonymous | reply 219 | January 28, 2021 8:51 AM |
This bitch can’t act. Her face looks like the expression on a corpse.
by Anonymous | reply 220 | January 28, 2021 9:12 AM |
5ft 8 English Emma Corrin with her large blue eyes already aced the role of Diana. Kristin's accent is going to be lame too. The Crown should have kept Emma for Season 5 instead of hiring a lanky Australian actress who's only a few years older than Corrin.
by Anonymous | reply 221 | January 28, 2021 11:52 AM |
You need plenty of white showing in your eyes to play Diana. Stewart has beady eyes like a snake. Terrible casting. With her petite build, she'll never pull off Di's slightly awkward, lofty posture.
by Anonymous | reply 222 | January 28, 2021 11:54 AM |