Plantations

Personally I love the antebellum mansions. They are stunning. It’s part of US history and no it wasn’t pretty and of course slavery is not done but getting rid of plantations doesn’t erase the past. It won’t change anything that’s happened.

Personally I love the antebellum mansions. They are stunning. It’s part of US history and no it wasn’t pretty and of course slavery is not done but getting rid of plantations doesn’t erase the past. It won’t change anything that’s happened.

I learned the ways of love at a tender young age while joyously frolicking through a grand southern estate. Too bad we were surrounded by murder and dark family secrets.

R3 = The Senatrice

Only if those who preserve them document the inhumanity of the slave trade and the crimes against humanity that were enacted in these haunted spaces.

Did people do anal in plantation homes?

[quote]Did people do anal in plantation homes?

Only on the Sabbath.

[quote] Did people do anal in plantation homes?

Why you silly boy.

It seems like many plantation owners hunt on their own grounds.

[quote] Personally I love the antebellum mansions.

Kindly refer to them as "Lady A mansions" in the future.

Of course darling, only for you R10

Any suggestions for particularly nice ones in LA, MS, TN? As I’m stuck only traveling by car, I plan on doing a road trip to New Orleans. I’m looking for especially beautiful / interesting places to visit on the way.

R3 = Blanche Elizabeth Devereaux

R12 River Road out of New Orleans is a good route. Also Natchez MS.

Oh FFS... As a black person who posts on DL let me just say this... White people, calm the fuck down. Just a few points, and please know that I'm not speaking for all black people.

1. We want to get rid of bad police officers, not the entire police department. All we're asking is that bad guys be arrested, not murdered by the police.

2. It would be nice if racist statues and other things were moved to dustbin of history. But a good starting point would be to add context and tell the true story of who these people were, instead of glorifying them and the so-called lost cause.

3. Plantations that are maintained and preserved through private trusts are fine. But again, tell the real story or at least the entire story when interpreting these places.

4. Removing Gone With the Wind temporarily solves nothing. Hiring more black creatives to write, produce and direct productions solves everything.

5. And to all the emails from companies that I've been getting lately, telling me how you stand with black lives matter. That's nice, but show me that you stand with them. Don't tell me.

6. And finally, you can be an ally without going overboard.

R15 great but are we to hire on ability or skin color?

Ahhh, the memories...

"I love 'em...'specially durin' the days they have the Civil War reenactments under the oaks."

R15 thank you. People obviously are fed up and feel guilty.

"great but are we to hire on ability or skin color?"

R16, do you honestly think for one nano second Donald Trump got where he is today on his ability? Can you honestly say with a straight face that Eric, DJT jr. and Invanka would be where they are today because of their innate talents and abilities?

Not all plantations were slave plantations. My grandfather was a physician who grew up on and inherited a 3000 acre plantation in coastal Georgia that grew sugar cane, cotton, rice, and tobacco. His grandfather and father before him were never slave owners. The farm ran on a combination of full time employees and tenant farmers who were given houses and plots of land on the farm to operate their own farm operations. In return they worked a certain amount of time on the main farm.

Personally I think they should be firebombed and razed to the ground, but that's unrealistic.

As long as they revise the tours to include the true history of slavery, I guess that's something.

[quote] Any suggestions for particularly nice ones in LA, MS, TN?

Are there any in TN? I've only seen them in states that actually seceded to form the Confederacy, and TN was not one of them.

R23: TN stands for Tennessee, which most definitely was part of the Confederate States of America.

Read a history book.

Seems to be plenty to visit in Tennessee

[R15] Thank you for your perspective! Some plantations have records and even reunions for everyone who lived on them, owners and slaves alike (many related). Monticello does this, for instance. They can have a role for helping descendants learn more about their ancestry. The interpreters are doing a much better job describing reality these days, too. I went to a Plantation in Louisiana owned by black creoles. It was on the West Bank across from New Orleans.

My friend reluctantly went to Mississippi for a wedding and it was at a former plantation. He said it was by far the best wedding he's ever been to, for what it's worth.

^^ Natchez is gawjuss in the spring.

Liberals are nuts. Everything built in this world has been built by slave labor. Are you going to destroy everything?

You guys have no problems with exploiting Mexicans. Why are blacks the sacred people?

Mom didn't put out for you today, R29? Is she on the rag?

Don’t be silly, R30. R29’s mother hasn’t menstruated since Eisenhower was in office.

R29's mother is Chaz Bono.

[quote]Hiring more black creatives to write, produce and direct productions solves everything.

Tyler Perry isn't enough? He is the Black Sam Goldwyn after all.

[quote]R9 It seems like many plantation owners hunt on their own grounds.

You mean, like, hunt PEOPLE??

probably too in the old days but currently deer, fish, turkeys etc

[quote]You mean, like, hunt PEOPLE?

Only in months that have Rs.

I’d like to see one that has slave quarters in tact and I think those would be the most valuable for teaching people about the horrors of slavery. Next time I’m in New Orleans I may check this one out

R15, are you single?

[quote]R37 I’d like to see one that has slave quarters in tact

If they were REALISTICALLY in tact, it would be a major turn off to whites, and they would cease to be tourist attractions.

[italic]”Here’s the type of shed where the female slaves were raped, and over here’s the block slaves were tied to for whipping if they didn’t pick their daily quota of cotton...”

Plantations can Be Best look if you get right size. Is very sad my step daughter has lopsided jugchest. Not very Best, not at all.

Mount Vernon has its slave quarters for the house slaves intact. People are fascinated by them. Most of the cabins for field slaves are long gone. They were often miles away from the main house, off in the woods somewhere adjacent to the fields and no one has been able to find them. I always ask whenever I go to historic houses. The slave history is what I want to know, not about the mistress making embroidery and playing canasta. I know this will sound crazy but I have always had these scary flashbacks of sound and bits of landscape and emotion and wonder if I was a slave in past life. I’ve had the same visions ever since I can remember.

R41, it’s possible. And it’s possible that you retain fragments of memories. I think we all have these fragments, most of the time too faint to register. But some, like yours seem to be, are a little stronger.

R25 Pic #10 gives me the willies.

Eventually they'll fade away give it 100 years or so from now.

[quote]I’d like to see one that has slave quarters in tact

Where is tact?

Is Natchez MS really the best town to see antebellum architecture and plantations?

I don't want plantation houses torn down. Someone might find John Mayhew's severed head.

[quote] I’d like to see one that has slave quarters in tact

R45 I think he's trying to tell you he prefers his slaves intact rather than circumcised.

r46 Yes Natchez is the place for antebellum homes. There are 20 you can tour during pilgrimages in the spring and fall, or summer if you can bear the heat and humidity. You can spend the night in some of them.

Another place is the River Road in southeast Louisiana, not far from New Orleans. There are dozens of sites to see in the area, including Houma plantation where Hush, Hush...Sweet Charlotte was filmed. Bette Davis spent the night there.

[quote] Personally I think they should be firebombed and razed to the ground, but that's unrealistic. As long as they revise the tours to include the true history of slavery, I guess that's something.

I have not visited a plantation, during my 36 years that didn't include a focus on the history of slaves and slavery and how it was wrong.

If we tear them down, we are tearing down about the only thing that the skilled slave laborers left on the earth, for posterity. Should we tear down everything left from the Roman Empire, the Greeks, the Egyptians? Should Brazil tear down their historical buildings? Are we going to go to Africa and track down the decedents of all the African tribes and kingdoms that practiced slavery and were largely responsible for selling them to Europeans?

We should learn from and acknowledge our history, without burying it and trying to forget it.