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Actor Roger Herren

I recently rewatched "Myra Breckinridge" and was impressed not only with his beauty, but a naturalness in front of the camera for a novice who had been in Vietnam the previous year. He was hunky and funny. Why didn't his career take off?

He died in 2014 at the age of 68.

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by Anonymousreply 32June 12, 2020 9:54 AM

"Myra Breckinridge" pretty much killed his career before it could even take off.

Overall, he had a pretty sad life, battling alcoholism at one point and having a series of unsuccessful relationships. Apparently, he refused to talk about his role in "Myra Breckinridge," feeling embarrassed about his appearance in the movie.

by Anonymousreply 1June 11, 2020 2:27 PM

Why is Myra Breckinridge never shown? It like one of those mythical movies that I’ve heard about forever but have never seen anywhere on any channel.

by Anonymousreply 2June 11, 2020 2:56 PM

R2 It shows ups every once in a while on TCM, but very rarely. It really is awful. And not even awful in a "Showgirls" awful, but fun way. Just horrific, disjointed, nonsensical.

The best performance in the entire movie is given by Roger Herren's butt, so that should tell you all you need to know.

by Anonymousreply 3June 11, 2020 3:01 PM

Some movies--MB is one--are degrading to watch. I don't blame him for refusing to talk about it.

by Anonymousreply 4June 11, 2020 3:14 PM

MB was rated X. If it's on TV it would be heavily edited.

by Anonymousreply 5June 11, 2020 3:43 PM

R5 Rated "X" in 1970 was not the same. Today, "X" means porn. But back then, it just meant very adult content. "Midnight Cowboy" was rated X, but I think anyone who's seen it would agree there's nothing about it that's pornographic. Same with "Myra Breckinridge."

TCM airs its movies unedited, and I saw it unedited. It was considered scandalous at the time, since Myra was a transgender person, and the scene with Roger Herren was considered shocking since it depicted Raquel raping him with a strap-on, but beyond that, there wasn't anything particularly "adults only" about it.

by Anonymousreply 6June 11, 2020 3:54 PM

He had a hot ass but...well, you know the rest.

by Anonymousreply 7June 11, 2020 4:00 PM

Mae West had some funny quips in it, but John Huston is pretty embarrassing in it, it didn't help Raquel Welch's career, and yes, it's a disjointed mess. Plus Rex Reed is shown masturbating, though I forget if he was shown nude -- pretty boy, with an annoying voice. Roger Herren was very cute, but pics of his nude scene showed up in Playboy, so being rogered (sorry) by Raquel's dildo was not the best way to forge a career as a hunky leading man in Hollywood back then (or even now).

by Anonymousreply 8June 11, 2020 4:03 PM

I was pissed that after getting through the whole mess it turned out It was all just a dream!

by Anonymousreply 9June 11, 2020 4:16 PM

Don't forget Mae West as a sex-crazed cougar!

by Anonymousreply 10June 11, 2020 4:16 PM

R10 It was such an embarrassing performance for her. And she's only in the first half of the movie. Then she just disappears and is never seen again. Her character made no sense at all in the movie.

by Anonymousreply 11June 11, 2020 4:19 PM

A young Farrah Fawcett played Roger's girlfriend or wife in this. She also had a lesbian sex scene if I recall.

Seriously, i felt like I was on some hallucinogen watching this.

by Anonymousreply 12June 11, 2020 4:25 PM

Farrah was absolutely gorgeous in this movie. Truly stunning.

She had a lesbian tryst with Raquel in the movie, but it was nothing more than some rolling around in a bed and a couple of butt shots. Nothing you wouldn't see today in a PG-rated movie.

by Anonymousreply 13June 11, 2020 4:27 PM

Farrah said that Raquel was rather mean to her off-screen.

by Anonymousreply 14June 11, 2020 4:28 PM

Tom Selleck as one of the studs auditioning for Mae West.

by Anonymousreply 15June 11, 2020 4:36 PM

I saw MB in a theater when it first came out. It was just a big mess, and didn’t make much sense. I’d never read the Gore Vidal novel it was based on. It was Rex Reed’s awful debut as an actor, and he was just bad. The lead character keeps fantasizing about classic movies, but since the film was a 20th Century Fox production, all the film references used as clips in it had to be from Fox films. Which only made it more confusing.

And this guy Roger Herren Is presented as little more than a dimwitted himbo, whose later stage experience consisted of playing “Cowboy” in various southwest productions of “Boys in the Band.” No surprise there.

by Anonymousreply 16June 11, 2020 4:51 PM

Years ago, I saw an interview with Rex Reed where he was saying how people would write him nasty letters whenever he wrote a bad review of a movie they liked and complain that he didn't know anything.

He said, I always tell them, "Hey, I was in the worst movie ever made! I think I know what I'm talking about when it comes to bad movies."

by Anonymousreply 17June 11, 2020 4:52 PM

Roger Herren's fine white ass.

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by Anonymousreply 18June 11, 2020 5:24 PM

He was probably very natural onscreen because he didn’t have any dramatic training. That ability only goes so far and then it’s hard to replicate without training.

by Anonymousreply 19June 11, 2020 5:27 PM

Ick, that's a flat ass

by Anonymousreply 20June 11, 2020 5:31 PM

Mae's scenes were a movie within a movie. She wrote her own dialog and insisted on a music sequence (for a talent agent?). The director added her because he didn't think Raquel had the gravitas to carry a movie (or the acting chops to play Myron also, thus the loopy addition of film critic Rex Reed).

Raquel hated her and Mae was really hurt. She even had Raquel over to her home for a chat, but RW kept trashing her behind her back, saying she was a man in drag, etc.

Mae had the last laugh; she's the only thing memorable in the film and looks gorgeous for almost 80.

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by Anonymousreply 21June 11, 2020 5:48 PM

Mae was awful in this movie. It was an embarrassing way to begin the end of her film career. She does two musical numbers in the movie, and in one of them, I remember her clacking her teeth together throughout the whole thing. I couldn't figure out if she was chewing gum or trying to slip her dentures back in place.

And of course, Raquel has a very different recollection of her relationship with Mae. She says Mae was very mean to her and made Raquel change her wardrobe in one scene, because it was the same color as Mae's. She said she felt like Mae was jealous of her because she was younger and prettier.

by Anonymousreply 22June 11, 2020 6:05 PM

"Former child star and then-current US ambassador Shirley Temple Black, got her white house buddy Tricky Dick to demand the archival footage of her being squirted in the face while milking a cow (from a scene from Heidi) which was interspersed with a rape scene, be taken out of all prints immediately (which it was, though we do see and hear Ms. Temple in another, non-rape, section).  Loretta Young then, without the help of President Nixon, successfully sued 20th Century Fox for using images of her in that same infamous scene."

by Anonymousreply 23June 11, 2020 6:51 PM

He never recovered from the surprise anal.

by Anonymousreply 24June 11, 2020 9:40 PM

"It was an embarrassing way to begin the end of her film career."

Honey, Mae ain't doing "Stone Pillow" or "Whales of August".

by Anonymousreply 25June 12, 2020 12:59 AM

R25, Or "Trog".

by Anonymousreply 26June 12, 2020 1:04 AM

Mae ain't done nothin' since 1977,

by Anonymousreply 27June 12, 2020 1:24 AM

Are Roger's eyes close2gether?

by Anonymousreply 28June 12, 2020 1:56 AM

I think Myra is fun to watch BECAUSE it's so disjointed and surreal. And Mae's song is something to behold. I had no idea that Black Crowes song wasn't orginal, so first time I saw Mae do it, I got chills like in some time traveler movie.

I think Even Cowgirls Get the Blues is the one that is almost unwatchable and boring (except that short scene with John Hurt - the way he says 'Sissy')

Thank God Dunaway and Tomlin both dropped out of Cowgirls. At first I was devastated because I LOVE Faye and Lily and the thought of them together in a movie filled me with such excitement.

Then I saw Cowgirls and it was a big WHEW!

by Anonymousreply 29June 12, 2020 5:12 AM

That look on Roger Herren's face with Raquel Welch behind him says it all.

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by Anonymousreply 30June 12, 2020 9:35 AM

Had no idea both Candy Darling and Rachel Harlow were considered for Myra Breckenridge.

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by Anonymousreply 31June 12, 2020 9:45 AM

Pretty much everyone except a slim few tried to distance themselves from Myra Breckinridge, so we can't hold that against Roger Herren. Farrah Fawcett left it out of her C.V IIRC.

Roger Herren was in "Boys In The Band" and overall got good marks for his performance, Farrah Fawcett, Raquel Welch and others managed after a while to move on, so it wasn't impossible. But then again maybe the suits simply felt image of Roger Herren bent over that table with RW behind him just was not something audiences would forget easily.

Then again maybe there were other things going on; plenty of guys came back from Vietnam with all sorts of problems. Yes, Roger Herren was a GD fine looking young man, but sometimes demons just can't be over come easily.

by Anonymousreply 32June 12, 2020 9:54 AM
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