Forgot Faye Dunaway in "Mommie Dearest". Grayson Hall as Dr. Julia Hoffman on the TV gothic soap opera "Dark Shadows" gave the greatest over the top performances ever. Hall was actually an Oscar nominee for "Night of the Iguana"and she was a renowned stage performance and this is the ultimate example of playing to the balcony. She screamed in so many episodes that one of the best moments is when Barnabas tells her "I never saw you lose control before". Judith Light's courtroom performance can't compare to Hall shrieking "Roger, Roger....."
I love how she always pronounced Barnabus as 'Bernabus'
by Anonymous | reply 2 | May 1, 2020 1:02 AM |
For me, Grayson Hall was the best part of Dark Shadows. Loved her in “Satan in High Heels”.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | May 1, 2020 1:25 AM |
She earned her paycheck ... that is for sure ...
by Anonymous | reply 7 | May 1, 2020 2:22 AM |
The story is that the character was supposed to be Dr. Julian Hoffman, noted blood specialist, but a typist mistyped the first script reference to the character as "Dr. Julia Hoffman," and producer Dan Curtis thought, why not?
by Anonymous | reply 8 | May 1, 2020 2:44 AM |
Dr Hoffman was always prescribing sedatives but she clearly should have been on them herself.
Great line at 0:15: "that's a safe, isn't it?"
by Anonymous | reply 9 | May 1, 2020 2:48 AM |
Dr. Julia Hoffman started out on Dark Shadows trying to track down the supernatural creature that almost killed Maggie Evans.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | May 1, 2020 2:49 AM |
I loved how Julia tried to hypnotize people with her sparkling medallion.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | May 1, 2020 2:53 AM |
At 0:35, her split second change of facial expressions is a riot.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | May 1, 2020 2:55 AM |
She always repeated words and phrases twice and if she did it three times, you know the situation was really bad.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | May 1, 2020 3:03 AM |
Barnabas and Julia started out as enemies then ended up as the best of friends.
He was always trying to strangle her.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | May 1, 2020 3:04 AM |
R5 Greyson Lane, porn star (bottom). No relation!
by Anonymous | reply 17 | May 1, 2020 4:04 AM |
She was nominated for an Oscar in her role as an angry, repressed lesbian in Night Of The Iguana.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | May 1, 2020 5:11 AM |
OMG OP, thanks for posting this. I totally forgot all about her. Every kid in my elementary school used to run home to catch this every afternoon. She was hilarious, and I loved the way she played like five or six characters on the show...like you weren't supposed to recognize her made up as a gypsy. Wow...
by Anonymous | reply 21 | May 1, 2020 5:32 AM |
She's amazing. Camp classic!
by Anonymous | reply 22 | May 1, 2020 6:12 AM |
Oh, Dr. Hoffman, we need you now! Coronavirus is taking over the world.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | May 1, 2020 4:21 PM |
She was 45 when she started on Dark Shadows. She looked and sounded 20 years older. No 45-year-old actress looks like that now.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | May 1, 2020 5:59 PM |
I loved how she comfirmed her suspicions that Barnabas was a vampire when powdering her nose with her back to him.......he didn't appear in her compact mirror!!!
I found her sad because she was so devoted to Barnabas, but he only had eyes for the young chicks like Victoria and Roxanne.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | May 1, 2020 6:16 PM |
Love how she pronounced Hhhhhhhhhoffmannnnn.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | May 1, 2020 6:47 PM |
[quote] Judith Light's courtroom performance can't compare
TALBOT HUDDLESTON!
by Anonymous | reply 27 | May 1, 2020 6:48 PM |
OP are you referring to Judith Lights scene on 1LTL where she confesses to being an exprostitute? I still remember that. Intense scene.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | May 1, 2020 6:50 PM |
Bump
by Anonymous | reply 29 | May 2, 2020 9:06 PM |
She's GREAT in "Iguana", starting with the singalong on the bus up front. She knows how to use that wirey body for comic effect.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | May 2, 2020 9:10 PM |
If you watch Grayson Hall's early stuff, including an Oscar nominated turn in Night of the Iguana, she was a very fine actress. I guess she understood she had to go full on scene chewing for Dark Shadows.
And the courtroom scene with Judith Light is considered the most famous soap moment of all. But her hysterics don't seem that different from Grayson.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | May 2, 2020 9:12 PM |
I love how they give her scream scenes but her wrecked voice is completely incapable of producing a scream, only a croak.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | May 2, 2020 9:20 PM |
[Quote] No 45-year-old actress looks like that now.
Does Britney Spears count as an actress?
by Anonymous | reply 33 | May 2, 2020 9:21 PM |
Grayson Hall was actually a very good actress if you look at her other work. I mean honestly, Dark Shadows wasn't high theatre. I can't imagine having to run those lines especially live on tape every day. Make no mistake, Dark Shadows is one of my favorite shows, I have it on DVD, but it's charm is in it's inadvertent camp.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | May 2, 2020 9:21 PM |
Love her!
by Anonymous | reply 35 | May 2, 2020 9:23 PM |
[Quote] its charm is in it's inadvertent camp.
Wouldn't that mean that her bad acting wasn't intentional?
by Anonymous | reply 36 | May 2, 2020 9:26 PM |
I haven't read the entire thread, but is it safe to assume it's been mentioned that she was drunk most of the time?
by Anonymous | reply 37 | May 2, 2020 9:33 PM |
She was one of the first great woman scientists that America has ever produced. How dare you call her an alcoholic.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | May 2, 2020 9:38 PM |
R36 you need to go back and look at the subject of the sentence. You are only posting a fragment of a sentence that has no actual reference to Grayson Hall.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | May 2, 2020 9:38 PM |
Grayson Hall was IN "Dark Shadows." Of course your defence of the show relates to her. Your first sentence is an explicit defence of her talent.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | May 2, 2020 9:46 PM |
r40 okay sweetie.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | May 2, 2020 10:11 PM |
[Quote] okay sweetie.
Burn.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | May 2, 2020 10:19 PM |
I too, have the complete series of Dark Shadows on DVD and it’s one of my most prized possessions.
I bought a third Blu-ray player just for Dark Shadows.
They are the only disks that have been in that player.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | May 2, 2020 11:45 PM |
R43 Lucky you. Those "complete series" are pricey.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | May 3, 2020 4:46 AM |
A friend of mine was casual friends with her in the 70's. He said she was a "a game gal"!
by Anonymous | reply 45 | May 3, 2020 8:03 AM |
I rented some of those "complete" dvds, back when video stores still existed. I was primarily interested in the first months of the show, from prior to the time I started watching it. The dvds were great because you could zip through the boring parts, until the moments when the vampire showed up and things got more interesting. Many of the show's best moments are on youtube ( you have to remove Tim Burton's idiotically bad movie from the search to find them). It was an amazing tv show, especially considering that a new episode came on every weekday. There's been nothing like it since.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | May 3, 2020 12:57 PM |
Here they are, getting a little freaky in the bedroom: "I seen you in your coffin!!"
by Anonymous | reply 47 | May 3, 2020 1:28 PM |
Bump for ham
by Anonymous | reply 48 | May 5, 2020 12:33 AM |
She was born Shirley Grossman . In 1952, married writer Sam Hall. Always used the stage name Shirley Grayson, but Sam called her Grayson, "like an old Army buddy", she said in an interview. She eventually adopted Grayson Hall as her professional name.. She died of lung cancer at 62 in 1985.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | May 5, 2020 12:49 AM |
She was born Shirley Grossman . In 1952, married writer Sam Hall. Always used the stage name Shirley Grayson, but Sam called her Grayson, "like an old Army buddy", she said in an interview. She eventually adopted Grayson Hall as her professional name.. She died of lung cancer at 62 in 1985.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | May 5, 2020 12:49 AM |
Funnily enough, Dark Shadows has been my Corona binge for a few weeks now. I'm up to episode 220, and Barnabas Collins has just arrived on the scene.
Count me as one of those kids who rushed home from elementary school to watch the latest episode of scary stuff. Watching it now, as an "adult" (and I use the term loosely) it's interesting how differently I see it. Now it's all about the numerous hot, gay men who were a part of the series -and the Broadway actors and TV character actors who were also there every week.
Joel Crothers was one of the sexiest actors of the sixties!
by Anonymous | reply 51 | May 5, 2020 12:50 AM |
^Don Briscoe, the mysterious guy from Mississippi who appeared on the show, then retired to Mississippi and just disappeared. He was really good looking and was fascinating to watch. It's a shame he ended up like he did. He allegedly had some kind of "nervous breakdown" that was never sufficiently explained. A real pity.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | May 5, 2020 1:01 AM |
"The Hand" a fairly late story line - G. HALL appearing this time as gypsy Magda (Last name unspecified). Pretty heady stuff for junior high school kids to watch at 4:30 every afternoon. My 9th grade English teacher denounced the show when it became a big hit, 1970, as something "only drug addicts watched." It's true, I WAS keenly interested in scoring some LSD when she said that.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | May 5, 2020 1:08 AM |
How many people get burned alive on daytime television NOWADAYS?
by Anonymous | reply 54 | May 5, 2020 1:23 AM |
Anyone else remember a little old lady actress walking down a hall, clearly going up on her line, a long awkward silence and then a stagehand yelling her line out. Was the show live every day?
by Anonymous | reply 55 | May 5, 2020 1:40 AM |
I don't remember that, but I guess it was live. There were loads of "bloopers" that were left in the broadcast showws. In the link I posted above, about Angelique being burned alive, you can hear Jonathan Frid almost lose it when he gets to the line "How come you did [such and such]?" It seems clearly to be because he realized what bad English it was, esp. for the 18th Century, but still he persevered, and they left it like it was.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | May 5, 2020 1:45 AM |
In one of the blooper reels, I think it was a black and white, one of the actors clearly gives a limp wrist to the camera when Louis Edmonds leaves camera view.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | May 5, 2020 1:47 AM |
r43=Barnabas Collins
by Anonymous | reply 58 | May 5, 2020 1:47 AM |
There are lots of programs from the black and white days of the show when you can see the (dark) shadows of the mic booms up on the ceiling or walls, in the 'parlor'. And tombstones in the cemetery scenes that wobble as people walk by, and sometimes just fall over. And the outdoor scenes, where the "forest" plants are clearly mostly potted rubber tress, etc. It didn't matter.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | May 5, 2020 1:54 AM |
I've usually only binge-watched Dark Shadows in October for a few years now. But this thread's made me pick up where I left off on November 1st of 2019.
It's 1897, and Quentin has just found the urn that keeps Laura alive, and Grayson Hall is playing Magda, the gypsy.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | May 5, 2020 2:01 AM |
As I recall, one of the best things about Dark Shadows was that there was almost no recapping. That was a big thing on soaps where they would say, so and so said this, so and so did that. It was obvious they didn't have any more dialogue or scenes so they essentially told you what you already knew. DS just went right along with new scenes and the creaky sets and daily bloopers just made it that much more endearing.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | May 5, 2020 2:48 AM |
It was, simply, my world, with Grayson a BIG part of that world! Even as a baby, I knew the "acting" was over the top, but that, plus all of the mistakes in production, etc., left an enduring impression.
A large part of the atmospherics was pushed by the music, purpose-written for the show; I had until very recently one of the original LPs . . . pure theatrical camp!
I long for the days of Barnabas & Julia fighting about almost everything, and a lot of the hunky men who confirmed my preferences . . . so much young cum thrown at David Selby, Joel Crothers . . . and those accents--will we ever hear them again? I think Joan Bennett gave Grayson a run for her money in the scenery chewing department; some of her flubs are still side-splitting today!
As an aside, our family belonged to a "cult/church" that forbade viewing material such as Dark Shadows, as it was "of the devil" and "worldly", so that just increased our forbidden joy watching it each afternoon!
by Anonymous | reply 62 | May 5, 2020 3:29 AM |
So was this a soap opera? On every day? But it was about vampires?
by Anonymous | reply 63 | May 5, 2020 8:07 AM |
and werewolves, and witches/warlocks, and phoenixes, and Frankenstein-like creatures, etc. As a child, I thought it was amazing.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | May 5, 2020 8:12 AM |
The show started off with a few fairly standard story lines and a lot of gothic atmosphere, but then the first ghosts appeared and things took off. Even then, the show was in danger of being cancelled until the introduction of Barnabas Collins, the vampire. Here are the original storylines:
Victoria Winters comes to Collinsport to work a governess to the Collins family. Raised in an orphanage, she is seeking information about her parentage. Episodes 1 to 92.
Burke Devlin, who wrongfully spent five years in prison for manslaughter, returns to town to get revenge on the Collins family. Episodes 1 to 201.
Roger Collins is nearly killed in a mysterious car crash that clearly wasn't an accident. Burke Devlin is suspected and accused, but the would-be murderer is much closer to home. Episodes 13 to 32.
Collins factory manager Bill Malloy becomes aware of the truth of Burke Devin's claims of innocense of the old manslaughter charge, but is himself murdered before he can bring the information to light. His ghost takes an active role in punishing the person who killed him. Episodes 46 to 126.
Roger's estranged wife, Laura Collins, returns for a divorce and to claim custody of their son, David. Laura is discovered to be a Phoenix, burning to death every hundred years only to be reborn as the same woman. Episodes 123 to 192.
Elizabeth Collins Stoddard hasn't left the grounds of her mansion in 18 years, since her husband left her. Jason McGuire, a man from her past, arrives to blackmail her, revealing that she murdered her husband and he helped her hide the body in the basement. Episodes 193 to 275.
Jason's sidekick, Willy, plans a bit of grave robbing in search of the Collins jewels. He unwittingly releases and is enslaved by vampire Barnabas Collins, kidnaps waitress Maggie Evans -the reincarnation of his lost love. Episodes 211 to 261.
From this point forward the show was a popular success. Grayson Hall joined the cast -along with many others, and the show moved from black and white to color. For me, it started to become interesting with the Bill Malloy murder, and the supernatural aspects were brought forward. The Laura Collins storylines were good, and reached a satisfying climax.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | May 5, 2020 5:02 PM |
Who did DL Icon Kate Jackson play?
by Anonymous | reply 67 | May 5, 2020 6:52 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 68 | May 5, 2020 8:02 PM |
Dr. Julia's attempts at crying are something to behold. More like a weird whimper and/or Paul Lynde impression.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | May 6, 2020 12:09 AM |
Bump for Grayson
by Anonymous | reply 70 | May 8, 2020 6:04 AM |
This is the most enjoyable DL thread.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | May 8, 2020 7:30 AM |
R69 In order to get her to do that, they'd tell her someone stole the bottle of bourbon she kept in her purse,
by Anonymous | reply 72 | May 8, 2020 7:36 AM |
Not sure it was mentioned, she got the role because she was married to DS writer/producer Sam Hall.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | May 8, 2020 8:09 PM |
How many years in total did she go by "Grayson" and what made her abandon it?
by Anonymous | reply 74 | May 8, 2020 8:13 PM |
I just saw this on Fark: two guys are doing an MST3K-type commentary on Twitch for the 1972 movie 'Gargoyles' starring Grayson Hall.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | May 8, 2020 11:38 PM |
Gargoyles is great schlock! Love it!
by Anonymous | reply 76 | May 9, 2020 3:18 AM |
I just read this on the IMDB trivia page for Gargoyles,
"Grayson Hall came up with the idea for her character to hold a drink in her hand in every scene in which she appears."
Of course she did! lol The only way she could get thru making the movie was to keep drinking.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | May 9, 2020 9:34 AM |
One of the great moments in Daytime TV. Psychic Madam Findley takes a scary fall down the stairs (aided by the stuntman in drag) and we hear Grayson's screams. We don't see her, but we don't have to in order to know it's her. They are among her best screams from the series. Then, when Madam Findley enters the Secret Room, she trips over a wire.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | May 9, 2020 7:47 PM |
LMAO R78 Grayson sounds like a wild chimpanzee
by Anonymous | reply 79 | May 9, 2020 8:38 PM |
R65 Wait, so Barnabas Collins didn't show up until after 200 episodes?
jesus
by Anonymous | reply 80 | May 10, 2020 1:01 AM |
R78 ... Never heard of Madam Findley, but I cackled like Grayson when she hit that wire ...
by Anonymous | reply 81 | May 10, 2020 1:23 AM |
For all you Dark Shadows experts, what's the best episode to start with that would not be confusing to a complete newbie . I really don't want to start with episode 1 or even 40.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | May 10, 2020 1:35 AM |
I loved Madame Findley's dress with the spread collar.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | May 10, 2020 1:37 AM |
R82 - look on youtube. There is an episode when Barnabas walls up Reverend Trask behind a brick wall down in the crypt, killing him (like the Poe story); it's great. Another episode in which Barn catches the busybody housekeeper Abigail down in the crypt - because she knows he's a vampire, they both know that he is going to kill her, and they talk about it; when he finally grabs her, she just dies, standing up, of fright. It's terrific. There are many of the best parts of the show on youtube. You have to add -movie from the search to block Tim Burton's bullshit, though.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | May 10, 2020 1:42 AM |
An entire sequence based on The Turn of the Screw, about 2 children, their nanny and Quentin (one or both of the adults are ghosts, and are ultimately wanting to kill the children, or possess them) is pretty terrific.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | May 10, 2020 1:46 AM |
R85, the only thing I've seen of that sequence is the girl who never knows her lines, always looks to the cue cards and has to have the other actors help her.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | May 10, 2020 2:14 AM |
Thank you kindly R84, it's nice to see that chivalry is not dead here on the DL, and that a gentleman will still appear when one is much needed.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | May 10, 2020 2:16 AM |
The best thing about DS was the soundtrack. Really great, chilling music.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | May 10, 2020 2:23 AM |
I had dinner with friends at Frid's apartment in late 1990. Charming man. Had the portrait, his cane and the ring displayed in his living room.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | May 10, 2020 2:47 AM |
Grayson Hall was no great beauty therefore she really had to concentrate on her acting in order to get noticed.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | May 10, 2020 2:50 AM |
She was a female female impersonator.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | May 10, 2020 2:52 AM |
People assumed she was a lesbian because of her mannish looks but apparently she wasn't - had a husband, a long marriage, and a son.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | May 10, 2020 2:56 AM |
Hall was her married named. Her real name was Shirley Grayson. She was also Euphemia Ralsyon on OLTL. Her husband wrote for both shows and a lot of Dark Shadows alum appeared on OLTL.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | May 10, 2020 3:02 AM |
You know Dr. Julia was a woman of quality. Instead of holding her palms to her mouth like that uncouth Joan Bennett, she always put her palm out when screaming.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | May 10, 2020 3:20 AM |
A big fan of Dark Shadows here too. I used to come home from school to watch the show too. I loved David Selby and Don Briscoe. David Selby is 79 years old now. It says online that Don Briscoe died of heart disease in 2004 but I also read back when he died that he had a mental illness.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | May 10, 2020 3:43 AM |
My favorite storyline was the one where Victoria Winters went back in time to learn how Barnabas came to be a vampire. All the characters in that arc were great...Millicent, Nathan Forbes, Rev. Trask and of course, Angelique.
I recommend two episodes from that time...the one where Barnabas walls up Trask alive, and the last episode in that storyline where Vickie is hanged
by Anonymous | reply 99 | May 10, 2020 3:54 AM |
My favorite storyline was the one where Victoria Winters went back in time to learn how Barnabas came to be a vampire. All the characters in that arc were great...Millicent, Nathan Forbes, Rev. Trask and of course, Angelique.
I recommend two episodes from that time...the one where Barnabas walls up Trask alive, and the last episode in that storyline where Vickie is hanged
by Anonymous | reply 100 | May 10, 2020 3:54 AM |
Start with the episode where Willy Loomis finds Barnabas's tomb.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | May 10, 2020 4:05 AM |
R99 I agree. The 1795 storyline was the best ever of Dark Shadows.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | May 10, 2020 4:50 AM |
Even with her head in noose, Alexandra Moltke Isles (Victoria Winters) looked beautiful.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | May 10, 2020 4:57 AM |
r102 How did Joan Bennett get hold of Miss Ellen's portieres?
A lot of scenery chewing went on in those episodes, but Grayson Hall devoured the most.
Always waited to see the "walls" quiver whenever a door was closed.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | May 10, 2020 10:48 AM |
Angelique the witch (Lara Parker) lets herself into the family crypt and murders her "good" twin sister Alexis (Lara Parker), who has been buried while in some kind of narcoleptic trance, by her deluded family....it's too kooky for me to figure out, but the clip shows what a compelling actress Lara Parker is. She's really something else. There are interesting interviews on youtube with these actors about the show, worth looking for.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | May 10, 2020 1:56 PM |
Ten minutes of scene chewing by Grayson Hall but what a joy to watch in these dark days. As noted in R106, the woman had definite skill lighting a cigarette. A lost art.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | May 10, 2020 3:50 PM |
I watched it religiously every afternoon, and once my mother watched an episode with me to see what it was like.
Within 10 seconds of Julia Hoffman's appearance, my mom said "Well there's a three-dollar bill." At the time she didn't know she was sitting next to one.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | May 10, 2020 4:12 PM |
I had no idea that expression was used for lesbians.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | May 10, 2020 4:19 PM |
R82, you can’t really get the poetry of the show—it’s blend of incompetence, hysterical funniness, and classic horror—from an episode or two. You have to follow at least a full storyline, and those can be lengthy, since the show moves at soap opera pacing. Episode 210–the release of Barnabas from his crypt—is, for most people, the official start of the show. The show is still in black and white then, and set in “modern” times. Grayson makes her first entrance and does some of her most legendary stuff. Then we’re off, with repeated trips to the past, a flash forward, and a conclusion in an alternate time line. My favorite flashback, btw, is the Victorian one, where the show mines The Turn of the Screw, and Jane Erye, and Grayson is Magda the gypsy.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | May 10, 2020 4:47 PM |
All of the New York ABC soaps shared a tape bank so they each had 45 minutes each day to tape their episode.....it was "live on tape" with no real time to go back to correct errors. The time that DS had was 3:30 to 4:15 p.m. which was the same time the show was broadcast. The actors couldn't watch themselves unless they weren't taping that day - and even then rehearsals sometimes caused them to miss many episodes.
I always liked how after Dr. Hoffman got choked for a moment or two, she spent at least five minutes wringing her own neck to recover from it......
Her son had a blog for awhile....doesn't seem to be active now, but it was interesting and he talks about her in some entries if you have the patience to look.
And yes the time traveling episodes are the most fun.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | May 10, 2020 4:53 PM |
I had such anticipation at the news there would be a soap about VAMPIRES !!! joan bennett sucked tho, she gurgled her lines and spoke in such an indechiperable way.
Grayson Hall WAS dark shadows to me !!!! with a ciggy and a drink, she was GOD and u better watch the fuk out !
by Anonymous | reply 112 | May 10, 2020 5:24 PM |
The sets of complete episodes are findable, if you know where to look; surprisingly plentiful, so the show still has lots of interested viewers.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | May 10, 2020 6:25 PM |
I found the series YEARS ago on a torrent site and spent days downloading it. Quality isn't very good.....but now and then I toss in a disk just to spend some time with some old friends......
by Anonymous | reply 114 | May 10, 2020 9:52 PM |
Dead 35 years, with 115 replies and still going strong. Way to go, Grayson. (Only on DL !!!)
by Anonymous | reply 115 | May 11, 2020 1:37 AM |
R115 made me throw up in my mouth a little.
Nothing like throwing a green spotlight on oneself.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | May 11, 2020 1:41 AM |
Julia takes Vicky, under hypnosis, and shows her Barnabas in his coffin. Very crafty, Julia!
by Anonymous | reply 117 | May 11, 2020 3:16 AM |
The famous hand of Barnabas coming up from the coffin and grabbing Willie.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | May 11, 2020 3:21 AM |
Julia tells Barnabas that she knows his secret.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | May 11, 2020 3:25 AM |
If you get a chance, check out the reunion specials on DVD. I have the 30th and 35th year ones, featuring Kathryn Leigh Scott,Lara Parker, Alexandra Moltke, Louis Edmonds, etc. Some very funny stories, especially how Jonathan Frid would constantly flub his lines. Scott and Parker must have found the Fountain of Youth, because they were as lovely as ever.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | May 11, 2020 3:56 AM |
If you get a chance, check out the reunion specials on DVD. I have the 30th and 35th year ones, featuring Kathryn Leigh Scott,Lara Parker, Alexandra Moltke, Louis Edmonds, etc. Some very funny stories, especially how Jonathan Frid would constantly flub his lines. Scott and Parker must have found the Fountain of Youth, because they were as lovely as ever.
by Anonymous | reply 121 | May 11, 2020 3:56 AM |
Although it was mostly kids that watched Dark Shadows the writing was adult themed and very well done - it still holds up all these years later.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | May 11, 2020 4:29 AM |
I loved the entire series, but I really, really loved the film noir aspects of the first 200 episodes. Little David was a terror. And Joan Bennett and Louis Edmunds were just so much fund to watch. When Laura the Phoenix from Phoenix showed up it was played so well. To do this day I still don't understand if Laura wanted David as a sacrifice or so that he would be reborn as a Phoenix also. Great show!
by Anonymous | reply 123 | May 11, 2020 5:10 AM |
R53 Magda's last name was "Rakosi". It may not have been in the end credits, but it was mentioned in dialogue.
by Anonymous | reply 124 | May 11, 2020 6:14 AM |
When I was a kid, One Life to Live was on right before DS. I started to catch the end of OLTL as I was waiting for DS to come on and pretty soon got way more interested in OLTL than I was in DS. I should have known then that I was a young gayling.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | May 11, 2020 12:26 PM |
miss bennett was campily dreadful, read each line as if she were underwater and grasping for a straw.
the writing was turgid, thus adding to the hilarious camp value of the wretched show.
GREAT FUN
THANKS TO U GRAYSON
by Anonymous | reply 126 | May 11, 2020 2:13 PM |
Fashions by Orbach's.
by Anonymous | reply 127 | May 11, 2020 3:56 PM |
Naturally, you couldn't have a bat in these times.
by Anonymous | reply 130 | May 11, 2020 4:25 PM |
Grayson on "One Life to Live", approximately 32 minutes into this very dark episode. She was a hoot as Euphemia Ralston, always plotting against Asa Buchannan for destroying her family. That's Robert Earl Jones (James' father) as the butler.
by Anonymous | reply 131 | May 11, 2020 5:43 PM |
Was Hall then? She looks ill.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | May 11, 2020 5:46 PM |
R132 She wore a turban throughout her run on "OLTL" (approximately 8-9 months), and Asa once referred to Euphemia as "The bitch in the turban". By the time her role was wrapping up, she wasn't using the southern accent. She did get to share some scenes with Anthony George and Nancy Barrett who recurred as the tough D.A., Deborah Van Druten. I wonder if she crossed paths with Louis Edmunds who was over at "AMC".
by Anonymous | reply 133 | May 11, 2020 6:35 PM |
If your local library has Hoopla, the entire 1795 saga + more is available to stream
by Anonymous | reply 134 | May 12, 2020 1:52 AM |
R120 I was at the one with Alexandra (Moltke) Isles. It was in Los Angeles at the Directors Guild. She wasn't listed as a scheduled panelist, and had never before appeared at a Dark Shadows event. In fact, I don't think she'd appeared at anything since the Claus Von Bulow trial. A few of the actors had been introduced and were on stage. Then one of those great pregnant pauses by the announcer, then "she played Victoria Winters...." You should have heard the screams. They went wild. Then thunderous applause and many stood when she came out. I don't think it was captured on the video. And to think they were already excited knowing Kate Jackson would be appearing.
It was a really fun panel!
by Anonymous | reply 135 | May 12, 2020 6:26 AM |
Kathryn L. Scott has written a few books. Her book Dark Shadows Return to Collinwood has ALL the info you might want about the show and her co-stars. It's not a dishy, sex tell all - but it lets you know what it was like to be in the show.
She's also a lot of fun on Facebook.
Lara Parker is still beautiful - as is Kathryn - and they like to talk to fans and attend the shows.....
There used to be some YouTube videos that fans took at the studio of the stars coming and going....I can't find them now :(
One kid said Grayson now and then would yell at them to get a life....and then laugh as she signed their autograph books.
by Anonymous | reply 136 | May 12, 2020 3:18 PM |
I was at the convention in New York the year that Denise Nickerson came. It was her first appearance at any type of event and the crowd went WILD when she came out. This was in 1995. Denise had been working in accounting for a hospital in Illinois (according to her during the Q&A session) so she really had no idea what kind of cult status she had. Most of it was really from Willy Wonka when one of the audience members came up and asked Denise, "The hell with Dark Shadows, what was the blueberry suite like?" The audience gave a standing ovation for the question.
It was the oddest convention I'd ever gone to. I never went again when it was in New York. I used to run into Alexandra Isles on the UES every now and then.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | May 12, 2020 5:36 PM |
She would have been a perfect Norma Desmond. Just perfect.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | May 12, 2020 6:42 PM |
Julia gives a terrific slap on the face to Cassandra (Angelique) for all the trouble she has caused.
by Anonymous | reply 139 | May 13, 2020 5:09 AM |
Bump
by Anonymous | reply 140 | May 14, 2020 8:08 PM |
What a great thread! I love the videos, especially the first one. Count me in as another who rushed home from school to watch.
by Anonymous | reply 141 | May 14, 2020 8:29 PM |
R139, here's the video. It's not much of a slap but jeez, Grayson give good bitch face.
by Anonymous | reply 142 | May 15, 2020 3:44 AM |
R142 Thanks for posting. That clip was hilarious, mostly because it was so obviously a fake slap... but reminds me of my favorite, (clip below)
by Anonymous | reply 143 | May 15, 2020 8:53 AM |
Bump.
by Anonymous | reply 144 | September 25, 2020 11:02 PM |
How many of the actors in Dark Shadows were gay? I know Louis Edmonds, possibly Jonathan Frid, Joel Crothers...
by Anonymous | reply 146 | September 26, 2020 3:19 AM |
R146 Nothing "possibly" regarding Frid and Crothers. They both were.
There was also Keith Prentice (RIP) and the bulge of Morgan Collins.
by Anonymous | reply 147 | September 26, 2020 10:16 AM |
R146 And here's a summary article on the subject.
by Anonymous | reply 148 | September 26, 2020 10:22 AM |
I've never heard of her.
by Anonymous | reply 149 | September 26, 2020 10:32 AM |
R146 Jonny Frid and Joel Crothers were gay. Joel C died from AIDS. Anthony George (Burke Devlin No. 2 and Will Vernon on OLTL ) was also gay. I think Don Briscoe was gay too.
by Anonymous | reply 150 | September 27, 2020 2:04 AM |
Don Briscoe wasn't gay, just really screwed up mentally. I wasn't surprised Anthony George was gay, but I was shocked to learn he was Earl Holliman's lover.
by Anonymous | reply 151 | September 27, 2020 2:20 AM |
I’m binge watching the whole series on Tubi. I watched it when it was first shown, and I prefer the pre-Barnabas episodes. I was interested in Vicky’s storyline, but even though the series started as a show about the mystery of where she came from, that was completely dropped when the vampire shit started.
Jonathan Frid flubbed more lines in one episode than any other actor would flub in a whole career.
by Anonymous | reply 152 | September 27, 2020 2:55 AM |
R151 Don Briscoe starred in gay themed plays so it's possible that he may have gone both ways. He was looking for spiritual answers in life and thought they might be found in drugs and it was the beginning of the end for him.
by Anonymous | reply 153 | September 27, 2020 3:00 AM |
Clarice Blackburn who played the maid, stern and serious Mrs. Johnson, was a lesbian. There may have been more of her kind on the show but I'm not sure.
by Anonymous | reply 154 | September 27, 2020 3:04 AM |
Dark Shadows is on Pluto! It looks like they've started from the beginning! I am transfixed!
by Anonymous | reply 155 | October 17, 2020 8:38 PM |
A real blast from the past. My chums and I watched soaps for the sex and violence (Jessie raped by her ex-husband on General Hospital!) but when we could have horror, too, we were thrilled! Rice crispy treats, easily whipped up in 10 minutes, and then D.S.
by Anonymous | reply 157 | October 17, 2020 9:10 PM |
R155 Thanks for the heads up. From your experience, is this one of Pluto's "binge watching" channels? Because what I'm seeing at Pluto has them already up to Episode 300. I'm not very familiar with Pluto, but so far I don't see a way to start and stop where you want or pick up where you've left off. The show just keeps on running. I like watching these eps, but can't watch 24/7 .. lol!
by Anonymous | reply 158 | October 17, 2020 11:00 PM |
r158 It is--like their Dr Who channel, 007, etc. Enjoy!
by Anonymous | reply 159 | October 17, 2020 11:09 PM |
Omg! That’s perfect!
by Anonymous | reply 160 | October 17, 2020 11:40 PM |
The entire series is on the Tubi channel on Roku. It will keep track of where you start, stop and resume. It's free but has commercials (not a lot of them though).
by Anonymous | reply 161 | October 17, 2020 11:53 PM |
R25, that's how she found out who Barnabas was in House of Dark Shadows, the feature film, not sure how it worked in the daytime version.
HODS summarized that whole Barnabas fascinated with Maggie/Josette beautifully. The whole cast nearly ended up dead save Elizabeth and I think David; Night of Dark Shadows opened with Quentin and Tracy Collins inheriting Collinswood after Elizabeth died. But Grayson was cast as housekeeper Carlotta Drake.
But she was so identified as Julia it was distracting.
by Anonymous | reply 162 | October 18, 2020 7:22 AM |
Joel Crothers had cheekbones you could cut glass with.
by Anonymous | reply 163 | October 18, 2020 8:07 AM |
Speaking of Joel ... Remember the episode where Angelique made fashioned a Lieutenant Nathan Forbes doll and tied some tight twine around the doll's groin, so that Nathan would pop a large woody in his britches that would be sure to distract Barnabas, Jeremiah, and Joshua?
by Anonymous | reply 164 | October 18, 2020 8:31 AM |
Lara Parker was probably the most beautiful woman to do soaps.
by Anonymous | reply 165 | October 18, 2020 11:42 AM |
There was entire episode where Grayson Hall got a haircut, explaining why she went to town and every character mentions it.
by Anonymous | reply 166 | October 18, 2020 11:45 AM |
Just watched the movie version.that was on TCM this week. It's a good stand alone movie and is a really great representation of the show.
by Anonymous | reply 167 | October 18, 2020 1:40 PM |
So when Burke Devlin was young and dirt poor, he'd often pose for artist, Sam Evans?
I'm guessing they were "artistic" nudes that Sam would sell to private collectors in Boston and New York.
Sam had to be making money somehow. Most of the paintings littering the Evans cottage are so banal.
by Anonymous | reply 168 | October 18, 2020 9:11 PM |
R165, the camera certainly loved her. Every time she was on screen, even in the background, you couldn't keep your eyes off her.
I saw one of those lists ranking "soaps greatest couples" like Nikki and Victor from Y&R, Holden and Lily from ATWT, Luke and Laura from GH, etc. Two couples stood out, because the characters were supposed to hate one another: Barnabas and Angelique from DS, and Barbara and James from ATWT.
by Anonymous | reply 169 | October 19, 2020 2:42 AM |
There were some great stills taken of Lara for Night of Dark Shadows. This is my favorite.
by Anonymous | reply 170 | October 19, 2020 2:52 AM |
R169 Besides that list, Barnabas & Angelique were highlighted in the 1994 prime time special, "50 Years of Soaps - An All-Star Celebration."
Their introduction leading to the onstage reunion of Frid & Parker starts just before the 40 minute mark.
by Anonymous | reply 171 | October 19, 2020 4:13 AM |
R171; I was there that night. They had wine at the tables.
On my way out, I passed Lara and I said: oh, hi. When I was a kid, you used to scare the shit out of me.
Delivered it kind of 50% flatly 50% amazement.
She laughed.
That was an amazing night. All of those legends. Every time you turned around, there was another famous face.
A mix of past and present.
Yet Marland had died the year earlier so, personally, I already felt the beginning of the end. I knew ATWT was headed for bad times and also, that Doug would never go to another show. No Viki doing five personalities on the witness stand while she takes the rap for a murder Joey or Jessica committed. No going back to AW and re-hiring Jacqui Courtney and Beverly Penberthy to help bring back the Matthews clan.
He could have gone over to LOVING and - sans Aggie's input -- have saved that show.
by Anonymous | reply 172 | October 21, 2020 5:20 AM |
The non-stop streaming of Dark Shadows on Pluto-TV seems to only go through to some Episode in the 500-600 range, then the show starts all over again.
by Anonymous | reply 173 | November 5, 2020 1:03 AM |
If you have TUBI try that, they have all the seasons and it's not live streaming, you can choose what and when to watch
by Anonymous | reply 174 | November 5, 2020 9:02 PM |
I always found the fate of Josette haunting. She threw herself off Widow's Hill rather than become Barnaba's vampire bride.
by Anonymous | reply 175 | November 5, 2020 9:13 PM |
No way that old bitch compares to
'TALBOT HUDDLESTON!!!"
by Anonymous | reply 176 | November 5, 2020 9:19 PM |
and speaking of ham, right off the hog.....
by Anonymous | reply 177 | November 5, 2020 9:26 PM |
R175 Josette and Barnabas in the mausoleum. Typical of Dark Shadows.
by Anonymous | reply 178 | November 5, 2020 9:31 PM |
Josette on top of Widow's Hill, ready to jump, in order to escape Barnabas who has become a vampire.
by Anonymous | reply 179 | November 5, 2020 9:37 PM |
Victoria Winters, accused of being a witch, breaks down ands tells a shocked Barnabas that she is from another time and not the year 1795 in which they are living.
by Anonymous | reply 180 | November 5, 2020 9:55 PM |
Even with the less great resolution, Episode 444 has some Lieutenant Nathan Forbes VPL.
Joel must've been feelin' frisky that day.
by Anonymous | reply 181 | November 5, 2020 10:35 PM |
David Selby played the Winkelvoss twins' attorney in The Social Network I recognized him immediately.
by Anonymous | reply 182 | November 6, 2020 3:09 AM |
He was Streisand's husband in "Up The Sandbox'
by Anonymous | reply 183 | November 7, 2020 11:02 PM |
In the Dark Shadows film Grayson's DS character was played by Helen Bonham-Carter. IIRC, there was a scene where she gives Johnny Depp, as Barnabus Collins, a blow-job! That sure never happened on the Dark Shadows daytime soap!
by Anonymous | reply 184 | November 7, 2020 11:07 PM |
OP I'm late to this thread but thank you. I have my next binge series.
by Anonymous | reply 185 | November 7, 2020 11:18 PM |
God, that "Dark Shadows" film by Tim Burton was awful. Jonathan Frid had a cameo in it. He died not long after the film came out. Maybe he saw it and was so appalled he had a heart attack and died.
by Anonymous | reply 186 | November 8, 2020 12:21 AM |
Just noticed Roger's wearing Hush Puppies .. lol! .. Haven't thought about those in decades.
Also, Ohrbach's must've had a lot of green available. There seems to be so much of it in many shades. There was one scene last week, where every character in the drawing room was wearing some shade of green from teal and avocado to kelly and chartreuse.
by Anonymous | reply 187 | November 8, 2020 2:41 AM |
R187 Roger Collins. Louis Edmonds who played him was a gay blade in real life. And here are the shades of green that you mentioned in your posting.
by Anonymous | reply 188 | November 8, 2020 2:48 AM |
R188 Yeah, I know ... I've even read Edmonds' bio, "Big Lou." .. Speaking of clothes, I'm still wondering which DS episode it is where Louis is performing pantless. .. In the book, it says there's an episode where Lou thought he was done for day and went back to his dressing room and began to change out of his costume, but was suddenly called back to the set, and there wasn't time to get his pants back on, so I guess he's in his underwear either standing behind something or they shot him from the waist up. .. lol!
by Anonymous | reply 189 | November 8, 2020 10:43 PM |
[quote]God, that "Dark Shadows" film by Tim Burton was awful. Jonathan Frid had a cameo in it. He died not long after the film came out. Maybe he saw it and was so appalled he had a heart attack and died.
Yeah, I was actually excited about it then saw the pre-publicity shots of Depp in vampire drag. Of course he can't play a role straight. Always full of make-up. Then it turns out to be a comedy or was supposed to be.
by Anonymous | reply 190 | November 8, 2020 10:54 PM |
I find it ironic that Louis Edmonds was such a flamer off-camera. Even though he played about ten different roles on DS, they were always the most straight-laced, most conservative characters.
by Anonymous | reply 191 | November 9, 2020 3:21 AM |
I remember when she and Barnabas were standing together at the cellar door (it had an opening in it at face level) and Dr. Hoffman needed to use her forefinger to clear something from her nostril.
by Anonymous | reply 192 | November 9, 2020 4:31 AM |
R192 Actually, that was Barnabas picking at his nose.
by Anonymous | reply 193 | November 9, 2020 4:43 AM |
R193 I stand corrected.
by Anonymous | reply 194 | November 9, 2020 7:25 AM |
Does anyone know how I can rent the series from beginning to end?
by Anonymous | reply 195 | November 9, 2020 10:31 AM |