"Nice" Celebrities Who Maybe Aren't As Nice As They Seem.

Before there was Ellen, there was Alan Alda. People thought he was like Hawkeye. A few stories leaked out, but he wasn't taken all the way down.

Yeah, R1, Alan Alda is a good one.

St. Angie of course

Chrissie Evert. Trust me, I oughta know.

I feel like Reba might fit this category. She always comes across as a country cunt that knows she can’t be one in public.

Elizabeth Windsor

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Kelly Ripa - I think she’s an obvious backstabbing diva and fake

Shawn Mendes.

In the video below he let his inner bitch come out:

Reese Witherspoon

Amy Klobuchar?

R11 = Pete Buttigieg

Lucille Ball

Amy Klobuchar isn’t nice in public though.

Chrissy Metz

Chrissy is perpetually crabby because there aren’t many places where she can take a dump without breaking the toilet.

Jennifer Garner

Meghan Markle owns this thread.

Matt Damon

Rosie O’Donnell was called “The Queen of Nice” back in the 90s when she had her own talk show. Lol

Tom Cruise and Taylor Swift

Pope Francis

Bea Arthur

Katie Couric

Paula Deen

Lisa Whelchel

Mandy Patinkin

R5 I briefly met Reba once, she was very sweet and polite. Can't really see her acting like a cunt, but who knows.

Any of the holier-than-thou committed activists.

Bono, Bob Geldolf, DiCaprio, Clooney.

I'll throw in Ellen Page, because she seems dim.

Taylor Swift owns this thread

The Queen of Nice:

Keith Richards

The actress who plays Rita on Corrie is apparently a real bitch.

Lidia Bastianich. Bitch kept a slave.

Reese IS horrible.

Tom Hanks just screams fake and phony

I think Mouseboy is phony and calculating.

Having spend (too much) time with Kevin Bacon, I can promise you that Kevin and Kyra have the same about of niceness as Ellen, but split between the two of them.

Reese Witherspoon is pure evil.

R35 and R38 feel free to elaborate.....

Oprah - can be nasty to people in public at times.

R41 , Her beau Steadman was extremely Nice .

Someone posted on Reddit that the actors who played Jim and Pam on the office were never particularly friendly on set. I read another anecdote from a poster here that Amy Adams wasn't especially nice, or not as nice as people might imagine.

I heard Kevin B and Kyra S lost a lot of their money in the Bernie Madoff ponzi scandal.

What were the stories about Alan Alda?

I hate spell check.

"Amount" not "About"

Sorry.

But not sorry about Kevin and Kyra, who treat everyone whom they don't feel is above them in their power/money/fame hierarchy like crap.

Who on earth thinks Reese is nice? Doesn't everyone know that she has always been a demanding, pain in the ass, Karen type?

Ellen DeGenerate is the ONLY celebrity in Hollywood who is an evil phoney. All the rest are nice.

Glad Matt Damon was mentioned.

But I’m curious about the stories on Alan Alda...

The Klob, that shaking is barely concealed rage.

According to the people on Reddit, Taylor is one of the nicest celebs ever, but who knows?

I get the feeling that Megan Mullally is a major bitch. And I get republican vibes from her .

Sandra Bullock

Kevin doesn’t like Madoff

Perhaps Lin Manuel Miranda? also the John Krasinski/Emily Blunt husband and wife duo....

My husband was in a movie with Alan Alda and found him to be extremely pleasant-- not a hint of diva attitude. Hubby did say that Kevin Pollock (most recently on "Mrs. Maisel"), who was also in the movie, was a pompous, insufferable jerk.

People actually think Leo D seems nice? He’s only nice if you’re a gorgeous woman under 25 or a single guy that he can party with. He has no use for anyone else.

I was surprised to read on Reddit that Ringo Starr can be snippy and dismissive to fans. Doesn't fit with his "peace and love" persona.

At St. Jude Hospital, families never receive a bill.

Now leave the presents and get the hell out of my fucking office before I have you arrested!

Get OUT!

R29 I’ve met Bob Geldof. He is really nice.

Elton John

I’d assume none of them are as nice as they seem. They earn way more than they are worth, are spoilt rotten with freebies and by ass kissers, and are often almost deified by the public. Along with the insecurity of it maybe ending any time that would likely turn the nicest person into an egomaniacal wanker.

I was never a DiCaprio fan and never will be either. He’s an utter joke. His political phoniness and rodeo of barely legal girls that hook up with him for a big, fat paycheck tell you that he’s a fake.

[quote] rodeo of barely legal beards

FIXED.

Rachel Ray is notorious for being one of the meanest people on television. She is all smiles for the camera but she's a huge bitch behind the scenes.

Dolly Parton. Too much of the Jesus bullshit shoved down everyone's throats.

Those who are not nice are those who keep getting nominated for an Oscar but never actually win a competitive one. Exhibit A: G.

My gut instinct is that once the cameras are off, Joanna Gaines starts kicking dogs, children, husband and crew that have displeased her. She's got a hardness in her eyes that no fake motherly smile can hide.

Ditto on Reese. The oldest son Deacon has her chin unfortunately.

R29 Agreed on Bob, and he's a philandering arsehole too.

I’ve heard Sandra B is nice and pretty down to earth.

Betty White

Is it possible to become a really successful celebrity while being nice?

Jeremy Piven

R55, I never understood why Pollack’s terrible Christopher Walken impression is considered the gold standard.

R67 is so off base. Not in the know, are you, bud?

R55, are you married to Kevin J. O'Connor?

[quote] St. Angie of course

Back in 1981 Lansbury was on tour with George Hearn in SWEENEY TODD and I was working as a shopbottom in a department store in San Francisco. I came back to work after a day off and my co-worker told me I'd missed seeing her, as she'd been in the day before and bought a Members Only jacket (!?!). I thought she was just kidding until she showed me the sales slip. Needless to say, I was disappointed that I'd missed meeting the Great Angela Lansbury.

Not five minutes after the store opened, in walks Miss Lansbury. I marched right up to her and told her how much I'd enjoyed seeing SWEENEY TODD. She never even acknowledged my comment, instead saying that her husband thought the jacket she'd bought was too big for her and could she please try on a smaller size? Fine, she was all business and I could be that way too.

As I was finding some colors for her I turned around to see one of the ladies from the cosmetics department coming towards us with a piece of paper and a pen. I tried to catch her eye to warn her off, but she of course was fixated on Miss Lansbury. Before she could even ask, Lansbury turned to her and snarled "I'm on my OWN time, and when I am on my OWN time, I do NOT like to be bothered!". In fairness, she did not raise her voice, but her tone was wilting.

I thought it best not to comment, so I focused on finding her a jacket she liked and we completed the exchange. I didn't even ask her to sign the sales slip as it wasn't required by the store's policy and I thought she might think I was doing it just to get her autograph, which would've been true. I wished her a pleasant day and off she went.

I understand that it must be tiresome to constantly be bothered for your autograph (this was before MURDER SHE WROTE so she wasn't yet a household name). but I couldn't help but think it would've taken her 2 seconds to scribble an autograph to make a fan happy, but instead she took the opportunity to be a pill about it.

Later I thought that she might've been put off because the local critic had just panned the show and they had been reduced to offering 2-for-1 tickets just to get bodies into the 2300-seat Golden Gate Theater. Maybe she just hated San Francisco at that point.

Anyone whose ~brand revolves around being nice and relatable is the opposite. Looking at you, Jen Garner.

Jon Hamm. Can be a really mean drunk. And has really bad temper. Phoney smug nice.

This one's probably only for Canadians, but a couple of friends of mine know David Suzuki, and say he is a complete jerk. Arrogant, narcissistic, condescending, rude and dismissive.

R77, I thought R3 meant St Angie as in Angelina Jolie. The idea of Angela Lansbury didn't even occur to me and it does make more sense than Jolie.

No, R76, You probably wouldn't know my husband (actually, he is now my ex). He did write a critically-acclaimed best-best selling book back in the day, however. Speaking of Canadians, R80, I met John Candy on the same set and he was incredibly nice, humble, and down-to-Earth.

Alas, It was just a best-selling book. Not a best-best selling book!

Julia Roberts

Mia Farrow.

Robert “Freddy Krueger” Englund has a good reputation as a likable guy, but he was a complete prick when I met him.

I’ve heard that Reese and Angelina Jolie are some of the nicer ones.

Julia Roberts. Bullied her half sister, bullied Vera Steimberg, bought her marriage, and gives Danny money and things so that he won’t leave her.

Rosie O'Donnell and Julia Roberts own this thread.

Everyone knows that Julia is a rancid cunt, though. Only the most deluded Deplorable frau fans would think she's "nice".

Tom Hanks and Taylor Swift!

Brian May

William Shatner. Ego the size of a house.

On the other hand the late Leonard Nimoy was sweet. In the late 90s he frequented a store I worked at in West LA. He was cool, humble and very friendly.

The problem that celebrities have is that EVERYONE wants to have "a moment" with them. Good or bad, some people just want a reaction. I have known a few minor celebs and it's always awkward when they are continuously approached in public by strangers. You never know exactly what they want and it can even be a little frightening. And the more famous you are the worse it gets.

Wasn't Rosie accused of abusing her adopted daughter? The one that ran away?

Tom Hanks is supposedly the nicest man in Hollywood. High pedastle to fall from.

R96, “supposedly” being the key word.

[quote]Rachel Ray is notorious for being one of the meanest people on television. She is all smiles for the camera but she's a huge bitch behind the scenes.

Atta girl!

Julia slept with Vera's husband and she calls her low. lol

And as for Tom Hanks - nobody is always that nice. Impossible.

You won't hear anyone say a bad word about Henry Winkler. Everyone adores that man. All my friends who have encountered him in the business rave about him like he's their favorite uncle or something. Seems like a real stand up guy.

I think celebrities can have off days just like everyone, so I don't put a lot of thought into most of these stories unless it's someone like Faye Dunaway who seems to find trouble anywhere she goes. Where there's that much smoke, there's gotta be a fire somewhere.

I have a friend who gets angry if he meets a celebrity and they don't stop what they're doing and let him tell them his entire life story and take an hour long coffee break with him. I'm always like "they just met you. Would you want to spend more than a few moments exchanging pleasantries with a complete fucking stranger that just came up to you?"

A few can just be considered as a bit cold, shy, or aloof which isn't a crime. Most celebrities I've met are perfectly pleasant, but they're usually there to do a job. It's like if you're at work and Karen in the cubicle next to yours kept popping in to ask you stupid questions. Would you want that? Just remember where you are, the situation you're both in, and don't be an idiot.

I was waiting tables at Bradfords Coach House restaurant in St Pete Fl in 1983 while they were filming "Cocoon" (but I didnt know that at the time) and in came Steve Guttenberg,Wilfred Brimley,Hume Cronyn and Don Ameche. Plus a few others . I recognized Guttenberg ,but had no clue who the rest were at the time. Hume was exactly as he appeared in movies,curt and dismissive and very unfriendly . Steve was one of "those" guys who thought he was hilarious and never shut up (but god he was so hot!) . Wilfred was nice and surprisingly sexy ( I know,but I swear he was!) but Don Ameche , now there was a true gentleman . Exquisite manners , and was perfectly lovely to a gaggle of old women who had recognized him . They tipped well and werent bad customers , but I hated Hume Cronyn after that because he was such a sour person. The only time he spoke to me was to give his food order. They never discussed making a movie ,mostly they talked about fishing .

Zooey Deschanel - but I'm not sure seems nice either.

R102, that’s a little unfair to criticize someone for not having a conversation with a waiter and only giving you his food order. That was your job.

Tom Hanks. Not that I've heard anything specific about him but I'm pretty sure there's something dark lurking beneath that beloved, jovial surface.

99 % of them?

Ann-Margret is the only celebrity I've never heard a bad word about.

True about Henry Winkler. Have a few stories of when I worked in the business. He is a truly nice guy!

Henry Winkler is one of the nicest celebrities for sure, but ironically his one feud is with Tom Hanks since 1989.

Hanks got Winkler fired from directing "Turner and Hooch" after two weeks. Winkler said on Howard Stern when asked about the film and said, "I got along great with Hooch. Let's just say I got along better with Hooch than I did with Turner."

Faye Dunaway. She didn't even let me finish my salad.

[quote] Lidia Bastianich. Bitch kept a slave.

I suspected Lidia Bastianich was not a very nice person, just from watching her cooking shows. She can't hide it, seems like a bully. I Googled that issue of her having a slave. Here is the Wikipedia synopsis (footnotes removed):

[quote] In 2011, Bastianich was accused of keeping an indentured servant. The subsequent lawsuit was tossed out in 2012 by a lower court that held that the plaintiff was not a slave because she received health insurance, room and board and other perks in lieu of getting paid. The claimant later recanted the principal accusations of the lawsuit.

I think "St. Angie" did refer to Angelina Jolie, UNICEF ambassador, adopter of destitute children worldwide, etc.

R77 did have an interesting story, though, about Angela Lansbury.

R57 George Harrison had more of a peace and love persona

Rob Lowe - Conservative Republican Douche

based on absolutely nothing, I get major psycho vibes from Kristen Bell and her husband

Goldie Hawn.

Paul McCartney

Tom Hanks, Tom Hanks, Tom Hanks. Utter phony.

Henry Winkler and Hugh Jackman are two of the nicest actors I’ve ever had the pleasure to work with.

Bob Barker.

R9 In his defense, he and "celebrities" are just regular people. They live in a weird world of people putting them on a pedestal, thinking they don't feelings, don't cry, aren't human, and want something from them. Imagine if everyday you saw people who didn't really care about you but wanted you to take a selfie, because you're a popular commodity.

You'd probably get defensive too wanting basic respect with everyone fussing over you like toilet paper in a pandemic.

Seem like assholes and really are assholes: Jessica Alba, Jennifer Lopez, Emmy Rossum, Rob Lowe, Nora Dunn, David Boreanaz, , Zooey Deschanel, Teri Hatcher, Amanda Peet, Christina Applegate, Thomas Gibson, Jenna Elfman, Bruce McGill, David James Elliott, Damon Wayans, Tim Allen

R119 as if no one knows this

Good list, R120.

AnnE Hathaway

Bono--a sanctimonious ass, parading around talking about peace while he acts like a dick in real life.

R104 I NEVER was a waiter who wanted to be friends with customers . Not once . Not my style at all. You had to have been there,he was a nasty old prick .

Joan Crawford.

Cary Grant

Orry Kelly had been his partner and lover when they were very young. Kelly was out in Hollywood. Grant was not. As older men they were on a lot together and when a car pulled up advertising the TV show Queen for a Day. Grant said to Kelly 'Your car is here.' Kelly was hurt. As if Grant was denying the relationship they had when they were young and pretty much calling Kelly a faggot.

I talked to William Shatner and he was very nice. He does a lot for veterans.

Fat ass James Corden and Ellen DeGeneres own this thread.

Rumors are floating around that James like to give head to young actors, singers who are new and want to become famous in show business. Disgusting and hypocritical pig!

Was told the late Rev. Billy Graham. Anyone mistakenly walking on his vast property in NC, he would have them arrested. He was friendly with the rich and powerful, but not with ordinary folks.

I'm almost afraid to ask but has anyone heard anything good or bad about Felicia Day aka the fairy queen of the nerds?

Jane Fonda, met her during the young, protester days by University campus. Not charming at all.

R10 that was always obvious. She has bitch face

Old school, but Clooney. Spent two days on set with him early in ER days (friends with a writer), then met him at a small party two years later. So far up his own ass. The “hilarious“ pranks he’s famous for? More mean spirited aggression than good natured fun.

R4 Remember that super-quick marriage Chrissy had to the golf star?

[quote] James like (sic) to give head to young actors, singers who are new and want to become famous in show business.

What do you mean? He like to give them blowjobs? Why is that bad?

R116

Paul McCartney

R134, I have heard similar rumors about Clooney. He’s got anger issues beneath his slick but aging visage. Everyone who has worked with him has reported on his love of cruel jokes on people.

I've always wondered that about Clooney. He's probably been able to get away with it for so long. And Ellen. I've heard stories for years about her. I'm glad it's finally coming out about her. I hope they cancel her damn show.

An old DL thread recounted George and his buddies taking a limo to go and egg the house of someone who gave one of his films a bad review, he would have been in his 40s at the time. I think it's unfair to frat boys to say George has a frat boy mentality, he sounds infantile. Have also read of the mean spirited pranks.

Clooney gets away with murder. Just ask those teenage boys who he brought to his Italian villa.

Astonishing what the wealthy get away with and in Georgie's case he didn't even have to go through the legal process. All Georgie had to do was conduct a very public bearding with TMI and over the top PDA and voila, no consequences.

R141, please expand on this..Seems very interesting

Jealous much?

Several blinds have been posted about Clooney and his love for twinks and I believe everything r143. Apparently it was why he moved to Italy. Less chance of his indiscretions being discovered. More than one boy has been injured by him and allegedly one death. I wouldn’t put it past him.

R43, I can confirm that Amy Adams is a pretty cool person. I met her at a Prince concert at the Forum in 2012-ish (when he played 21 dates there). My ex noticed her, walked up to her, and just started chatting like they were old friends. Adams was even cool with taking a photo of her two new pals. Her boyfriend, now her husband (I think) took the photo with my ex’s phone.

PS - one of the reasons IMDB shut down their message boards was because people posted stuff about Clooney and his peccadilloes...and the frauds who drank his koolaid would report the posters and entire threads would be deleted. I used to correspond with one of the posters via email. She was from Germany and was totally into Clooney, despite this. She believes that he did those things, but Europeans think differently about sex than we do.

As if you bottom bitches wouldn't have ditched recess to board a private plane to Italy to scrub bubbles on his penis with not gently-used rectums.

[quote] Astonishing what the wealthy get away with and in Georgie's case he didn't even have to go through the legal process. All Georgie had to do was conduct a very public bearding with TMI and over the top PDA and voila, no consequences.

For me, it was the opposite. Clooney getting married to Amal put him squarely on the gaydar. It crystalized for me at the Prince Harry royal wedding. Clooney and Amal looked like each other's trophies.

Clooney isn’t present at all anymore. I can’t think of the last movie he was in or the last picture I saw of him. Hardly an A+ lister.

At one point he was supposedly considering running for Congress, I remember BIs about it in 2016. He definitely gives off a sadistic vibe.

Keith Richards is as nice as he seems. What you see is what you get. Down to earth.

Debra Messing

Mia Farrow (but she dispelled that myth when she sent Woody the valentine with the knifes in the paper heart)

Say what you will about Mia, she was seriously provoked!

Tom Bosley... really nasty. But dead now.

Stars in the House convened the ladies of Desperate Housewives for a benefit for The Actors Fund a few weeks ago. Three glaring omissions: Teri, Nicolette, and Felicity. No one even mentioned Teri.

Brenda Strong was lucky to avoid being on that set. She seems like the sanest one of the bunch.

Doris Roberts was a horrible woman. Ditto Cloris Leachman. Valerie Harper was a doll.

Although comics have a bad reputation, John Mulaney, Conan O'Brien and Pete Holmes are all super cool guys.

Jeff "Sex Pest" Goldblum owns this entire thread.

They tried to make Britney Spears the "mean judge" on The X-Factor, but it was obvious that she was just pretending to be mean.

I have a Tom Hanks story that set my impression of him forever. This would have been right around Money Pit and before Big really sent him in the late eighties, but he was already a highly recognizable star.

I used to wait for my bus home from high school in downtown LA across from the Dorothy Chandler and in front of the entrance to a courthouse, I’m not sure which division. As I was waiting with my friends one day, he came slamming out of the entrance with two or three people who I assumed were his lawyers, and he was absolutely hysterical and furious, ranting and raving and screaming. Flecks of spittle flying from his mouth as he jut his fingers into one of the men’s chest. One of the lawyers (again I assume) was a woman, and he let her have it as well. He did this all while scuttling down the sidewalk toward the parking lot across the street, furiously flinging his arms around, totally unaware of the spectacle he was making, or not caring. People were stopping and watching slack jawed, including me and my friends. It almost could have been a scene from a movie, it was so over the top. This went on for what seemed like forever, but was probably about two minutes or so. He would stop and jut his fingers at the guy and scream about something and then stop and whirl around and do it again.

Ever since then, I’ve thought his persona and career is 100% artificial, and I’ve heard lots of LA stories about how he’s a mean and angry drunk who has abused his wife for years. Of course she’ll never leave him, he’s Tom fucking Hanks.

That early exposure to the star bullshit made me never believe the PR, and I know some of the most powerful PR people in the business.

They’re ALL pretty much total assholes.

Why hasn’t Goldblum been #metooed R160? He’s not that powerful or beloved.

Jeff Goldblum was interviewed on Rupaul's podcast a couple weeks ago, and you can tell that he is very interested in Rupaul. He says at one point, "But I want to hear about you..." He gives off major tranny chaser vibes.

He was weirdly obsessed with Jaida Essence Hall during the judging, R164.

Btw, I always wondered what Hanks would have been in court for at the time, was he maybe getting a divorce in the late 80s? What would have provoked that kind of rage? Anyway, I never really cared enough to find out.

R162, Hanks' behavior during Ricky Gervais' monologue at this year's Golden Globe Awards exposed him for the sanctimonious prick he is.

Hanks is fugly, wonder how he ever made it

Carol Burnett

[quote]I met John Candy on the same set and he was incredibly nice, humble, and down-to-Earth.

I have a cousin who worked on a movie with him and said pretty much the same.

Judy Garland ASKED us to stick our little hands in her nasty bits then bitched about it for the next thirty years.

[quote][R29] I’ve met Bob Geldof. He is really nice.

No, he bullied Michael Hutchence.

Any of the stupid cows on The Real. Just nauseating.

Any of the stupid cows on The Real. Just nauseating.

I've met and served Lidia Bastianich a big bunch of times and she was warm and charming every time. It was generally at a big CEOs home with whom she was a work friend,. She was consistently a lovely guest and always came into the kitchen after the dinner to thank the chef and the servers. It seems like a small gesture, but the only other celebs who did this every time regardless of the venue were Bill and Hillary Clinton, although not together.

[quote]This one's probably only for Canadians, but a couple of friends of mine know David Suzuki, and say he is a complete jerk. Arrogant, narcissistic, condescending, rude and dismissive.

I can believe it.

David Suzuki, although doing some good things as an environmentalist, can also be very egotistical. He's also made some bitchy comments at Justin Trudeau over the past few years.

She has the image of being the sweet old lady and America's grandma, but underneath that cuddly exterior, Betty White is an ambitious, attention hungry piranha. Even in social settings she cannot stand others getting noticed and will say something "cute" or bawdy to draw everyone's attention back to her. She's more like Sue Ann Nivens (and nastier too) than Rose Nylund.

I worked for Ellen's daytime show, behind the scenes. She was a very reasonable boss, didn't pick on anybody and she never subjected employees to unrealistic expectations or inappropriate demands. Honestly, there weren't many complaints among the staff.

However, she IS witty and sarcastic and some people perceive that as ~mean~, though I'm almost certain that wasn't her intent.

Vin + Omi

R160, he was almost my stepfather. My mom was engaged to him for five years after dating him for five years, even though she's a lesbian and he knew it the entire time. They never wound up marrying, though.

He wasn't a pervert. He seemed to want companionship out of relationships more than the other benefits of being in one.

[quote]Rob Lowe - Conservative Republican Douche

What happened to Rob Lowe? He used to be a Democrat when he was younger.

R156 Tom Bosley? That’s a genuine surprise, please elaborate .

R159 Doris Roberts and Cloris Leachman — while both very talented — never had publicly “nice” personas. No surprise there

R132, that is as old as dirt. I never get why people keep going on and on about what she did FIFTY TO SIXTY YEARS ago. A half fucking century ago, plus.

I surely don’t give a fuck about some old has-been broad as much as you do.

R162 / 165, that's exactly when Hanks divorced his first wife. 1987.

Everyone can be nice, and mean, an angel and a cunt, are you all dumb?

Just because you met one and they were "friendly" you think they are friendly all the time?

It depends on the situation.

Adding my voice to the pro-Henry Winkler chorus and can confirm that Thomas Gibson is an asshole.

Years ago I was giving my kids (8 and 9) a tour of the courthouse in downtown LA. My son was a baseball fanatic and he noticed Steve Garvey. I will never forget how incredibly nice Garvey was — having an extended conversation. He recognized that my son was a true fan. It was on the floor of Family Courts, so it was likely Garvey was there about his divorce

R184, I think the main point is that although all celebs can have good or bad days, some seem to be naturally predisposed to be nasty whereas others are usually nicer.

The Clooney stuff. That's nasty. I never really knew what to make of the rumours. I thought it was odd how Matt Damon made a joke about him being married to a man at a press conference and thought, surely matt wouldn't knowingly out him and maybe it was a joke. James Corden..that does not surprise me, he has always pinged to me and has a reputation for being an asshole.

I think most of us that have been around people in the entertainment business develop a sixth sense for what is true and what ia shitty fan with an ax to grind—or a celeb that was just having a bad day.. They may not know details, but rarely does general shitty behavior stay hidden for long.

R72 any actor can turn into an asshole after getting famous. Whether they [italic] stay [/italic] an asshole is a different matter.

R114 well Dax is a former methhead so.....

R188 Clooney always gave me the creeps. When SOUTH PARK did that episode about smug celebrities and lambasted Clooney it was so spot on. He really pissed me off when Princess Diana died and he was giving interviews about the paparazzi hounding celebrities. It all went downhill from there, at least for me.

Jennifer Lawrence is a cunt

R191 - I shall look for the Clooney episode, I have not seen it. I like Southpark and Family Guy's comments about celebrities, they're usually very spot on. i.e Kevin Spacey's basement.

R187 nails it. I have a B-list actress on my block...very highly respected. Some probably think her unfriendly but she strikes me as someone who is in her head a lot (maybe even running through scenes). But a couple times I’ve found myself in conversation with her and she’s really friendly and funny. Most of the time, I leave her be.

It’s not their job to entertain and befriend us! And sometimes, people foist themselves on them when they’re having bad days. So glad I’m not famous.

R168, please elaborate on Carol Burnett.

Morgan Freeman. He is perverted and harasses women.

Charlize Theron is a cunt and her long career is puzzling.

Michael Jordan...rude to fans and despite having enough money to be his own country, a cheapskate. Expects to be comped for meals when he goes out to eat with his entourage. Many athletes have done this. But Michael has this image as a good person who loves his fans and is a good competitor. He’s a known bully and has a gambling problem. Which may or may not be linked to his dad’s murder many years ago.

Since appearing "nice" is common for imaging/PR purposes, I'm not surprised that many celebs aren't as nice as they seem. So run of the mill "she's not as nice as she seems" isn't even noteworthy. It's the ones that have a massive difference between public image and private behavior that really interest me - in private they're not just "not as nice as them seem" but are truly awful, evil, and/or difficult people.

I seem to recall stories about Hanks being an absolute monster back when I was a kid, when he first started getting really famous. I'd never find it again if I tried, but sometime around The Money Pit there were articles about how much of an asshole he was on set.

Then he got Henry Winkler fired from Turner & Hooch, which was particularly awful because Winkler helped him start his career, one of his early roles was on "Happy Days" and he was recommended BY Winkler who had liked him on "Bosom Buddies" and wanted to get him work once the series was canceled.

His bad reputation and Bonfire of the Vanities lead to people saying his career was over, then a couple years later he got Sleepless in Seattle and suddenly he was a beloved American icon. I remember being surprised and cynical about the whole thing.

Speaking of Charlize, what happened to Stuart Townsend? Did she get him blackballed because it seems like he's dropped off the planet?

[Quote] and her long career is puzzling.

I don't like her but she's a decent actress.

[Quote] what happened to Stuart Townsend? Did she get him blackballed because it seems like he's dropped off the planet?

It all went downhill after he lost out on Lord Of The Rings. Also heard he's abusive.

Ah, that must have been it then R183. I always assumed it must have been something like an acrimonious divorce because only something like that would have raised such fury and ire. Thanks for telling me.

It still remains to me quite shocking, and I work with celebs quite often.

We had an entire thread about Mike Myers and his assholishness.

Tom Hanks. I hate that face.

I have never liked him or even found him remotely attractive, but Tom Hanks is the only person I've ever had a sexual dream about. I remember waking up and feeling dirty and disgusted by it. He's so devoid of anything resembling sex appeal.

I loved The Hollywood reporter story about the Knifes Out party. As soon as Jon Hamm showed up. Chris Evans left.

He loved using people to advance his career. He only did Splash because he heard John Candy was cast and John was very hot in the 80s. He was pissed off that John got Gene Levy in the movie as Hanks wanted one of his own friends in the part. He got John in the movie Volunteers, then had his part reduced so they wouldn't have to share too much screen time because he didn't want to be overshadowed by John.

R201, His "Will and Grace" episode is one of my favorites.

Reese Witherspoon. Average looking, average actress, and a huge ego. I don't have a clue why people like her so much.

Billie Lourds is a major bitch. Typical Hollywood brat. had a friend of mine was on the set of American Horror story. Took her three hours to say one line. Bitched about it the entire time. Emma Roberts likes to beat up her boyfriend's. It is beyond me why Ryan Murphy keeps using these Hollywood kids.

Shirley MacLaine

Years ago on reddit there was a thread about mean and nice celebrities. Ellen was outed as a mean celeb in the thread. The one post that stuck out to me was from someone who claimed to have been a crew member on The Office. He/she said that Jenna Fischer and John Krasinski were assholes on the set. Before that thread, I was always got a phony vibe from Fischer and Krasinksi. While that poster could have been a liar, I still a get a phony vibe from Krasinski. I suspect he plays up the nice guy angle because a bunch of fraus fell in love with him on The Office. Those Good News videos he's been doing remind me a bit of ake nice Ellen.

[quote] Michael Jordan

Yup--he was a dick to his ex wife, constantly cheated on her and was probably an ass to his teammates. I have a feeling Dennis Rodman is very nice but obviously he has like 10 screws lose.

^ I meant to type "fake nice"

Charles Barkley said there's no one cheaper than Scottie Pippin and Michael Jordan.

[quote]Perhaps Lin Manuel Miranda? also the John Krasinski/Emily Blunt husband and wife duo....

There have been blind items over the years about Emily Blunt being a bitch. One blind item was that she didn't like having to go the Emmys or other TV events back with Krasinski when The Office was on the air and that she didn't like his co-stars.

I also recall a blind item saying that LMM started acting like a douchebag to long time friends after Hamilton took off.

RDJ.

[quote]Taylor Swift owns this thread

There was a good article years ago where the author theorized that Swift is a sociopath based on her business deals and her backstabbing of other celebs and friends. Swift's feud with Scooter Braun was basically a fight with another sociopath shark. But, in that fight Swift lost and tried to play victim. Some singers and musicians did side with Braun and I think maybe they were happy that Swift finally lost a battle.

[quote] backstabbing of other celebs

Curious if that is referring to Katy Perry?

Ethel Kennedy adores Taylor Swift.

Oh, Ethel, you look like a shar pei on life support.

RE: Hume Cronyn

Yeah, he probably was an old grouch most of the time, but now that I'm in my 60s I have sympathy for people who wake up just feeling lousy. Those of us with 'ordinary' jobs can take a sick day, but if you're on a movie shoot you pretty much have to show up. Maybe the old buzzard just wasn't feeling well that day.

OTOH, I live in NY and, while walking my dog, I would occasionally run into celebrities walking their dogs. David Hyde Pierce and his husband Brian Hargrove were lovely people as was John Hurley. Even Kathleen Turner, who was known to be a raving bitch was most pleasant when her brindle boxer, Marbles, and my dog got their leashes tangled (but she let me do the untangling)

I don't buy Eva Longoria's nice woman act.

Did I die?

Fun Fact:

Hume Cronyn used to be a Golden Glove Boxer, and even ended up losing sight in one eye as a result of his bouts, but was very proficient in the ring.

[quote]Wasn't Rosie accused of abusing her adopted daughter? The one that ran away?

She was. That story died down pretty quickly after the girl returned home.

I would say that a lot of comedians who seem to be nice probably aren't. That comedian Cristela Alonzo had a short lived sitcom and it had decent ratings for a Friday night show on ABC. There was gossip that Alonzo was very difficult behind the scenes and was nothing like the "nice funny girl from Texas" image and TPTB didn't want to put up with her for years to come and they canned the show.

DiCaprio's 'thoughtful, sophisticated humanitarian' persona is so obviously fake. Everything he says in interviews sounds completely scripted; even his gestures look rehearsed. But apparently there are still some deluded fans who fall for his shtick.

For the last decade or so, I've gotten similar vibes from him and Clooney ... creepy, sinister. Something deeply unsettling lurking beneath an overpolished surface. At the very least I think DiCaprio has severe anger issues (maybe being in the closet for 25 years will do that to you?).

Then there are some celebrities like Pierce Brosnan or The Rock who just seem too good to be true to me.

[quote]Ethel Kennedy adores Taylor Swift.

"She picked my nose."

Justin Timberlake is another phony nice guy.

Justin Timberlake is another phony nice guy.

Yes, JT's treatment of Janet Jackson and Britney Spears after their breakup convinces me he's a male Taylor Swift and a douchebag.

Did JT really appear to be that nice when he was with Brit??

R233, that's how he was sold as, from what I remember. The "attractive" boy next door who would also be nice to your daughter, basically. But he made that video and song Cry Me a River to get back at Britney for allegedly cheating on him (I'm not sure she ever did). And he was bragging to people about the stunt at the Superbowl shortly after it happened and then threw her under the bus when he found out the network execs wanted to punish them. He cried to the execs on the phones and said he would never be part of such a calculated stunt and he was never punished.

Any stories about Adrian Brody?

He tries so hard to seem affable, but his ambush-kiss of Halle Berry indicates a darker sinister side may be lurking underneath...

Can’t stand Timberlake. Fucking cornball.

Re: Betty White...Lifetime did an “Intimate Portrait” on her in the nineties. When the show discussed her marriage to Allen Ludden, she really came off as a cold bitch when it came to her stepchildren. If they were late for a meal she’d put the food away...she just sounded like she had no time for kids. So why marry a man with three kids? I do like her work, but still.

[quote] that's how he was sold as, from what I remember. The "attractive" boy next door who would also be nice to your daughter, basically. But he made that video and song Cry Me a River to get back at Britney for allegedly cheating on him (I'm not sure she ever did).

The gossip was that Britney cheated on him with Wade Robson.

In a way I would say that Taylor Swift is worse than Timberlake. Swift has makes it seem like most of her former boyfriends are assholes. She made Joe Jonas out to be an asshole, but Jonas has been said to be very nice and that he's on good terms with other ex girlfriends like Camilla Belle.

Whitney Houston before she was caught with marijuana at the Hawaii airport in 1999/2000. That really changed her reputation, killed her career and validated many of the rumors about her and Bobby. Up until that point, many still bought the idea of her being a "sweetheart".

[quote]Re: Betty White...Lifetime did an “Intimate Portrait” on her in the nineties. When the show discussed her marriage to Allen Ludden, she really came off as a cold bitch when it came to her stepchildren. If they were late for a meal she’d put the food away...she just sounded like she had no time for kids. So why marry a man with three kids? I do like her work, but still.

I wonder if the stepkids are waiting for Betty to die so they can release a stepmonster book about her.

From what I understand, Britney never really cheated on Timberlake with Wade, Wade kissed her and Timberlake thought she was cheating on him or something. I wouldn't be surprised if that was it. Britney strikes me as too nice and/or dim to cheat.

[quote] In a way I would say that Taylor Swift is worse than Timberlake. Swift has makes it seem like most of her former boyfriends are assholes. She made Joe Jonas out to be an asshole, but Jonas has been said to be very nice and that he's on good terms with other ex girlfriends like Camilla Belle.

I agree--she made an entire fucking career out of throwing her exes under the bus. It's like she's recorded 1000 inanely bubblegum versions of "You Oughta Know".

Fun thread to read.

It confirms two things- 1. My instincts to NEVER acknowledge a celebrity's physical presence, unless, I'm first acknowledged by them is right-on. No, that isn't because I'm "below" them and I think they're too good for me. To the contrary, It's because I place too much value on myself to potentially put myself in a position where my interaction isn't welcome.

2. What r94 and r194 wrote reminds me of what a guy told me who used to live in LA and for decades and worked on film sets.

He said about fame that after seeing it up close, he wouldn't want to be famous. The cost, the expense for security, and you can't go anywhere. By the you can't go anywhere he meant just to go to the store. He said, "We go to the store and nobody cares or bothers us. When you have a certain level of fame ,the things you and I do and not even think about it, they can't do."

He also said Angelina Jolie is a gorgeous woman and very nice to everybody behind the scenes on the film crews.

Whitney was always straight up hood, it's amazing how many years her "princess" image held up. That wasn't who she was at all, but what she was really like was able to be kept from the public for an incredibly long time.

Yeah—Whitney was ghetto long before Bobby. He was just her excuse to escape the curated image created by Arista. I have to admit I love her first two albums the most. They hold up well.

After her first two albums, Whitney became a lot more direct and confrontational in interviews, sometimes understandably so. She REALLY hated interviewers asking her about Mariah and the (in my opinion, completely exaggerated) similarities between them. It's funny because even during THAT time, she still was considered a sweetheart.

R51 Megan Mullally is definitely not a Republican and her husband is one of the nicest actors in Hollywood

Justin Timberlake is a cokehead prick.

The whole Bastianich clan are insufferable assholes, especially Joseph.

Mike Nichols was a major asshole. Meryl was said to have modeled her character in THE DEVIL WEARS PRADA on him.

R239, When "This Is Your Life" did Betty White in 1987, there wasn't a sign of any of the three stepchildren.

Oh and that reminds me--Mariah is someone else who was considered "nice" when she was married to Tommy. He was obviously VERY controlling with her and didn't give her much freedom at all. But he also controlled her image very tightly. After she divorced him, she basically revealed herself to be a stuck-up drag queen.

I saw Kyra Sedgewick completely ignoring the hair and makeup people on Ten Days in the Valley when they asked politely if they could move her bag so they could have better access to her. She never looked up from her phone, and they just had to work around her and her bag without being acknowledged.

Benedict Cumberbatch is supposedly very snobbish and condescending IRL.

The late Gene Wilder seemed to play up a nice guy image. But, he and Gilda Radner had an affair while Gilda was still married to a former SNL band leader G.E. Smith and Teri Garr revealed that he was awful to work with on Young Frankenstein.

Maura West - the heavily botoxed actress who plays Ava Jerome on General Hospital - yelling at a prop person telling her which side she had her purse, "I'm not taking notes from the fucking prop department!"

R17 I've actually heard that Jennifer Garner is amazingly warm, and polite.

I've heard inconsistent stories about Harry "KC" Casey though, that make me think he's not as sunshiney as he would like people to think.

R156 Tom Bosley? How so?

Meryl Streep is a cunt.

Natalie Portman

R256 Oh, nice to see you on the boardS G. Are you still in therapy after your Oscar loss?

R253 I'm not surprised by that. West always seems like she would be a bitch irl.

Every experience I've had working (as a server) near or around Streep has been a delight. Like Mike Nichols she likes to charm the help so that they spread the word about how gosh darn wonderful she is. It's a great approach as it works wonderfully, and regardless of your reasons it's always the best idea in the world to be sweet and appreciative to the help.

I once served Streep her dessert first out of a group of about a dozen dinner guests (apple tarte tatin), and she grandly held my hand, kissed me on the cheek and told me she loved me. She's very actressy like that, but come on! She's Meryl Streep and it was fun! Nichols was equally seductive and seemed to need to win you over by being amusing and personable. A total act to be sure, but a nice one compared to most jerks.

Pierce Brosnan is very well known to anyone who's worked with him as a "diva", "high maintenance", and a "huge pain in the ass". I've known this for years.

[quote] Pierce Brosnan is very well known to anyone who's worked with him as a "diva", "high maintenance", and a "huge pain in the ass". I've known this for years.

Ahh, so his portrayal in Mrs. Doubtfire probably hit close to home :-)

I’ve heard Meryl Streep is a huge condescending bitch from a friend that served her frequently in a well known nyc restaurant.

My dads family is from Brownsville and were involved with the Gladys porter zoo around the time Betty white was, and I was disappointed to learn she’s unpleasant and difficult.

[quote]Curious if that is referring to Katy Perry?

I think so. It seemed like Swift tried to make Perry out to be bad guy, but was really her. When Swift started off doing country in Nashville, there were stories about she and her father had backstabbed songwriters and producers around town and that songwriters weren't credited on some of her songs. Swift's father is a wealthy stockbroker and they had the cash to spend on Swift's dream.

R261 I recall reading something a long time ago that Pierce was an asshole on the Mrs. Doubtfire set and that he definetely deserved to play that role.

[quote]Fat ass James Corden and Ellen DeGeneres own this thread.

I've always read comments by Brits on Twitter about Corden and they overwhelmingly seem to hate him.

When Patrick Stewart gave him "advice" during an awards show, people seemed to take Patrick's side because they felt it was karma for all the years Corden was up his on ass.

[quote]Zooey Deschanel - but I'm not sure seems nice either.

Is her sister a cunt too?

Niall Horan, the Irish one from One Direction, is known as a down to earth guy, but is actually a monstrous egotist and also an alcoholic. He's a textbook narcissist, always tweeting about how hot and cute he is and how incredible his bland new album is. He can't go a few hours without posting a shirtless selfie to his Instagram stories.

Mark Ruffalo

Niall is an Irish name?

R267 is one of the few posts on this thread that have surprised me.

Emily Deschanel would not belong on a list like this R66 because her default nature is genuinely nice.

However, she was very influenced by the rude, entitled behavior of David Boreanaz, and would mirror his eye contact avoidance and phony cellphone preoccupation while they were both on set.

John Francis Daly morphed into a Boreanaz douchebag mini-me while on the show, which is disappointing if you liked him on Freaks and Geeks. Everyone on set was specifically told not to mention that show, much like no one was allowed to reference Buffy or Angel around DB.

Niall is an Irish name, pronounced Nile. His ex Hailee Steinfeld wrote in a song called Wrong Direction that 'even on my tiptoes, I couldn't reach your ego.'

Alyson Hannigan - She was rumored to have been a bitch to the actress who played Tara on Buffy. Bitchy stories about her later came out during How I Met Your Mother.

Betty White might be one of those people who loves animals because she can't get along with people. Animals do what you want, kids don't.

I've told this before, but I babysat Pierce Brosnan's step kids when he was in LA doing Remington Steele. He and his wife Cassie were the nicest, most unaffected people ever and his kids were an absolute joy to be around.

R272 I thought it was pronounced "Neal"?

Alan Rickman was an absolute cunt to everyone he came into contact with.

R271 meant to reference R266

Alan Rickman, really? I heard he was a nice guy.

Judd Apatow- fake male feminist who acts like a hero for women and bashed Woody Allen and Bill Cosby, but has stayed quiet on James Franco. I suspect Apatow has tons of not so nice secrets.

You heard wrong.

I need receipts on Rickman. I've only heard good things about him until now.

Harold Ramis is an asshole. I love his former wife Erica, whom he dumped.

I hate post that include "I have a feeling" or "I get a creepy vibe from _fill in the black". If you don't have first or even second hand knowledge on said celebrity, you don't know what you're talking about.

[quote] She was rumored to have been a bitch to the actress who played Tara on Buffy

I thought this was actually confirmed by that actress in an interview. She didn't go into too much detail but she did say something about it.

Angelina, while not at all mean, can be difficult to deal with. She poops on the edge of public and private toilet seats. She always has to be the Belle of the Ball and if she gets jealous of somebody else's appearance she starts demanding extra weight shaves.

Also, her beauty is far from natural. She wears facial merges, arm and leg merges and a vaginal merge. She's legit fugly without her magical face.

[quote]I need receipts on Rickman. I've only heard good things about him until now.

I'm not the person who posted about Rickman, but just doing a cursory search of his name on Twitter coupled with "rude" and I see people who seemingly work in the service industry who have called him rude and grumpy. When he died many people who knew him said how wonderful and caring he was, but it's easy to treat those you know well versus strangers.

Rickman was a closet case. If he was grumpy and an asshole to people it may have been the lashing out of a bitter, frustrated closet case.

I met Betty White when she stayed at a hotel where I worked. This was back in the 70s. I spoke to her as she was boarding the elevator with some of her dogs. We chatted about animals and she was very sweet and bubbly. I think that celebrities are like everyone else. They have good days and bad days and sometimes feel amiable and other times are hostile for a whole host of reasons unfathomable to others. Unless it's a particularly heinous encounter, I don't think you can really judge a person from a single meeting.

Back in the 70's my dad went into an old chain steak place for lunch. One of those steak places where you went down a line and got your steak of choice cooked to order. Basically a cafeteria. He was standing in line and struck up a conversation with the guy in front of him and realized it was Clint Eastwood. He said he was really cool and down to earth and seemed very interested in my dad and asked lots of questions about his job and stuff. This was in Houston and my father was a journalist working for a newspaper at the time.

Wow, that clip on Patrick Stewart and Corden. Until now, all I had ever heard were rumors, but this confirmed it. What a prig! It was so nice to see him get slammed on stage with nowhere to hide.

it always cracks me up in threads like these when some posters try to excuse the bad behavior of those "poor hounded celebs"

that's absurd

These people CHOSE to seek fame. You can guarantee the first few times they got recognized by a "nobody commoner" they were thrilled. Sure it probably gets old if your career lasts long enough but that's part of the fame game. Some celebs seem to think that being famous should only be about the perks but not the negatives.

Now I wouldn't blame them for dismissing a rude or crazy fan but there's no excuse to reject a polite and friendly fan who just wants a photo or a quick chat. There's no excuse to be rude to staff or servicepeople just doing their jobs

If they can't handle it then get out of the business

and no I'm not someone who seeks out celebs. I've interacted with a few over the years and they were nice.

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I don't think I'd recognize a celebrity if I were out. I'm not that observant and not looking for them. and not familiar enough with them to even know who they were. I'd probably just think they look vaguely familiar and go about my business.

R289, then Clint Eastwood more than likely wanted your dad's dick. He's a curmudgeon and totally fucking out of line with almost everyone he comes into contact with unless he has other plans in mind. He is an abusive, bisexual sociopath.

Any "America's Sweetheart" type. They are the worst. Marlo Thomas especially.

I've seen many celebs over the years and I often don't realize who they are until a few minutes later. I'll pass someone on the street and they'll look vaguely familiar, but it's not until five or ten blocks later I'll think "oh, that was so-and-so!"

Doubtful R294.

Doubtful R294.

obviously people have good days and bad days, and celebrities are just ordinary people often thrown into extraordinary circumstances often being objectified, treated unfairly and even abused.....I work for a not for profit arts organization and have posted celebrity stories here before as I meet a good number of them. I have to say, the overwhelming majority of them are pleasant and professional, some are more friendly than others, but if there is a rule of thumb, it's the less famous they are, the more likely they are to be absolute dicks (with a few exceptions). I will say however that a very dear friend of mine, who is a very successful writer in LA, and one of her closest friends for many years is George Clooney. I talked on the phone with him once when she was visiting us for a weekend and he seemed very warm, although I've never met him and I don't know him, but I will tell you I know this woman would never be friends with an asshole - it's just not her at all. I've never asked her about him, nor about the rumors of him being a prick though.

Alan Alda (mentioned way in the beginning) from what I’ve read and seem to gather is the type who was difficult and a bit full of himself during his MASH days, but mellowed and became a nice guy as he got older. It would be interesting to learn which celebrities were assholes only around the height of their fame (but then got over themselves) and which ones stayed assholes. Because those are the truly delusional ones.

I also wonder how many celebrity couples (I’m thinking Kevin & Kira and some others) have less of an attitude when they are not with their significant other. I realize it could be just the reverse but just human nature I would think two celebrities together would be more toxic than one.

Speaking of Alan Alda I think (and hope) Phil Donahue actually is as good a guy as he seems.

R207 Why? Do Hamm and Evans have some sort of feud?

Jennifer Aniston. Never bought that nice girl act. Seems very demanding and shallow. Justin Theroux had a longtime girlfriend before she broke them up. but nothing came of it because she still plays the sympathy card still. I think Brad was going to leave her anyways.

[quote]Why? Do Hamm and Evans have some sort of feud?

Hamm dated Jenny Slate during the time she and Evans briefly split.

(R303) I don't think that's the reason, they didn't date that long. Hamm has to be the center of attention at any party is at. Earlier in the evening he was greeting all the guests at the premiere with Jamie Lee Curtis. He's not even in the damn movie. He's desperate to get more parts. More movies he can bomb. Chris Evans doesn't need to do that s***.

Jenny slate was supposedly telling people that after 9 pm, Jon was useless. Still a heavy drinker.

How did homely Jenny Slate get Hamm and Evans' cock in her?

(R306) Booze and pot.

I've only heard about 4 or 5 stories from people I know in the flesh, but they all said Boreanaz is a complete asshole to "underlings" on set.

And he was allegedly texting his mistress while his wife was in labor, so there's that.

[quote] Any "America's Sweetheart" type

I'm embarrassed to admit it, but during a fallow period in my career I took a job as an assistant manager at a Blockbuster Video (not even the manager, the assistant manager). This was in the 1980s when BB was hot shit.

Anyway, everybody who was anybody was making VHS tapes and promoting the hell out of them by doing in-store appearances. Two stars who came to 'my' store were Debbie Reynolds and Shari Lewis. Baby Boomer heaven.

Debbie was a delight, as was her husband at the time, Richard Hamlett. He seemed like such a nice guy, I was shocked to hear he physically abused her. Debbie was a love. Upon arrival, she shook hands with everybody ('Hello, my name is Debbie', like we didn't know who she was), posed for pictures, and chatted for hours with all the middle-aged housewives who had gotten all dressed up and had their hair done just to meet her.

Being a good little gay boy, I had ordered copies of not only the exercise video she was promoting, but as many of her old movies as I could get my hands on (the manager was a dumb straight guy who wouldn't have known Debbie Reynolds from Debbie Harry. She sold tons of videos and signed everything. A lovely afternoon.

Shari Lewis, on the other hand, was curt, condescending, and generally unpleasant. To the kids, she was all sweetness and light, but to the adults, she was anything but. Nothing was to her liking. After awhile, during the signing, I noticed her repeatedly clearing her throat so I came up alongside her and asked if she would care for some water. She turned to me and said in a mocking tone 'No, I would NOT care for some water.' Fine, Miss Phyllis Naomi Hurwitz from the Bronx, you can choke to death for all I care. I dunno, maybe having to earn your living with your hand shoved up a lamb's ass does things to one's ego. As soon as she left I cleared off the main display, took her videos off the in-store monitors, and threw all the tapes on a bottom shelf in the stockroom. That'll show her.

Years later, I read Lewis had suffered from breast cancer a few years earlier so maybe she was not in good health. But she was still a raving bitch.

I wonder if Clooney will ever get caught? And are him and Rande just friends?

Kyra Sedgwick giving attitude to commoners? IMO, she's barely famous, even being married to Kevin Bacon.

I wonder how she and Bacon got caught up in Madoff's Ponzi scheme. 🤑

R294 is absolutely correct. Can confirm. Sadistic, mean and bi. Has a fetish for cute female rats and they usually cry and die during sex(rape)but he DGAF.

There's an OLD rumor about Clint that he prefers anal sex, but I always thought that meant with a woman.

[quote]R289, then Clint Eastwood more than likely wanted your dad's dick. He's a curmudgeon and totally fucking out of line with almost everyone he comes into contact with unless he has other plans in mind. He is an abusive, bisexual sociopath.

[quote]R294 is absolutely correct. Can confirm. Sadistic, mean and bi. Has a fetish for cute female rats and they usually cry and die during sex(rape)but he DGAF.

Both comments from the same person. We appear to have a psychotic CE hater here who does't understand the ignore feature.

Clint Eastwood is the only person I know of whose love life has its own wikipedia page

Wow, even 8-times married Elizabeth Taylor's personal life doesn't have its own Wikipedia page. Her personal life topic is within the general page about ET.

Folk Goddess Joan Baez has been a snide, egotistical bitch forever.

Didn't Sandra Locke say that Clint made her call him Daddy? 😂😂

I believe that's Sondra R318.

I'm surprised that "Friends" is still so beloved since the entire cast seem like assholes in real life.

Clint Eastwood ruined that woman's life. He's an asshole and I will never watch his films again. He made her get her tubes tied? Or get an abortion? What was the deal with that? She wanted children and he didn't want them, at least not with her? And he had her blackballed because she stood up to him? Eastwood is trash.

I lost all respect for him with Obama skit.

Jennifer Aniston certainly doesn't seem like an asshole to me. Nor do Lisa Kudrow or Matt LeBlanc. Schwimmer and Cox are the two I'd peg most likely to be assholes. Perry seems pretty well liked since he still works and, with all his drug issues, we know that most people wouldn't want to work with him unless he was actually a somewhat decent human being.

A friend has worked for Mick Jagger for many years and has nothing but lovely things to say about him. He's a true pro. His ex, L'Wren, was apparently horrible and shrewish, per the friend.

[quote]I thought this was actually confirmed by that actress in an interview. She didn't go into too much detail but she did say something about it.

There was a thread somewhere on DL years ago where someone said the actress Amber Benson was fed up by the end of her Buffy run that she and Hannigan weren't in the same room during the last scenes of her character. They used stand ins for certain parts and then edited in Hannigan or Benson.

I also recall that at one point Hannigan said that Julie Benz who played Darla was awful and nasty to her. The gossip or stories about Benz and Hannigan reminds me a bit of how Jennie Garth bitched up and down about Shannen Doherty being difficult to work with on BH 90210. But, after Doherty left the show Garth was supposedly a bitch to several actresses hired for parts on the show like Tiffani Thiessen, Emma Caulfield, Kathleen Robertson, and Vanessa Marcil. I think it was Marcil who confirmed Garth being a bitch.

R325, it was Tiffany Amber Thiesen who said that Jennie Garth and actually all the women on the show were bitches to her. They actually became close friends AFTER the show and she even (if I remember correctly from Howard Stern) videotaped Garth giving birth. But then, for some reason that Thiesen didn't go into, Garth did something that really offended Thiesen. Thiesen said the way it happened, Garth acted like Thiesen did something to her but it was actually Garth's fault. I think Garth pulled a "do you know how I am" like 4 years ago so she is probably the bitch Thiesen paints her as. And I thought Julie Benz was nice to everyone? Maybe I'm wrong about that though.

R326 Theissen seems pretty nice and level headed. Hope I’m right.

Very sad to say a friend met LiZa and he and the rest of the crew were told not to look at her!

Someone posted a comment here a while back about Richard Simmons. The guy was working at one of his gyms and at the grand opening Richard showed up for the cameras and was all sweetness and light and when the camera people and reporters left he locked the doors and started yelling and swearing at everyone complaining that the gym looked like dump, there weren't enough towels, they weren't cheerful enough on camera, and they weren't dressed trendy enough.

[quote]Jennifer Aniston certainly doesn't seem like an asshole to me. Nor do Lisa Kudrow or Matt LeBlanc. Schwimmer and Cox are the two I'd peg most likely to be assholes. Perry seems pretty well liked since he still works and, with all his drug issues, we know that most people wouldn't want to work with him unless he was actually a somewhat decent human being.

The story was that the six stars of Friends supposedly all got along well, but Cox was bitch with guest stars and Aniston would join in with Cox's bitchy antics.

R273/R325 in the Buffy reunion shoot for Entertainment Weekly a few years back, you could tell Hannigan was not fondly remembered by her cast mates even with all the years that have passed. It looked like most of the others kept distance from her where they could, and where they couldn’t maintained a chilly professionalism with her.

I loved how Amber & Seth were in one of her shots and spent the whole time flirting and making jokes with each other while she sat there awkwardly in-between not looking at or interacting with either of them. That’s what you get for being a bully and a hag, toots.

I can't believe no one has mentioned Tony Danza yet.

Apparently he's an aggressive, hostile, closet case.

There's a DLer who worked as an outcall massage therapist and Dance tried hitting on him and then turned on him. I forget the details. Search the Tony Dan's threads.

And Tony's bad temper is well documented. In the 80s he was charged in court for punching a guy.

Tony was linked to a male escort service in NYC...it was on agc.com ages ago. And allegedly very picky too.

Doesn’t he have children?

Cloris Leachman. For starters, here's what she said about fan favorite Betty White: "Never liked her."

Matthew Perry has always been a dick.

He played practically the same entitled, rich prick character on Beverly Hills, 90210 before Friends.

R245 Correct, Nick Offerman is super nice

Chris Pine = Miserable alcoholic.

Cloris publicly came out and said that fat people should be rounded up, placed into camps and forced to lose weight because people don't like to see them. She probably posts on DL

(R330) we've heard from a lot of stars about the set of Friends. How they were their own private little club. The popular kids in school. Kathleen Turner said they wouldn't give her the time of day.

[quote]Speaking of Alan Alda I think (and hope) Phil Donahue actually is as good a guy as he seems.

I also hope Donahue is a good guy. I remembering seeing footage of Ryan White's funeral and Donahue was a pallbearer. He seemed like he was doing his best to hide the sadness.

'I thought it was pronounced "Neal"?'

No, definitely 'Nile' as in the river Nile, as any 1d fan will tell you. That's the Irish pronunciation.

I don't see anything really unusual about that R339. Guest stars come in and out, and costars bond. Yes, they should be polite and cordial, but you'll hardly be best friends for the 3-4 days.

Ryan White, god I haven't thought of him in ages. What a sad, sad story.

R9 I don't think that makes Shawn look bad at all.

Johnny Carson was another celeb whose public persona did not match the real and nasty person underneath.

Jerry Lewis was another. Asshole masquerading as a humanitarian.

William Shatner was hated by everybody on the Star Trek set, with the possible exception of Leonard Nimoy, who seemed to be able to tolerate him.

Bill Murray is now better known as an asshole, but in his earlier days people did think he was a nice guy.

R77 That's interesting. I worked with her once, and a situation came up where she would've been 100% right to be pissed off. She wasn't though. She rolled with it, and was supremely polite and professional. I'm guessing she was having a bad day, on the day you describe.

Lucille Ball

I worked with Shatner and he was fine. Not just to me but everyone on set.

Marlo Thomas still wins. What a nightmare. Oh and Bob Barker too. Angel when the camera is turned on and Red, asshole the second it switches off.

On another thread here simialr to this one, a flight attendant posted about asking Julia Roberts sitting in First Class, "Miss, would you like a drink?" She shot back, "You KNOW who I am, and NO, I don't want a fucking drink!"

R348 I think he's mellowed with age, but no denying he was an ass in his day.

R349 didn't Spielberg nickname her TinkerHell?

[quote]Jerry Lewis was another. Asshole masquerading as a humanitarian.

I'm surprised one of his sons hasn't written a book about him. His illegitimate daughter tried to get a book published about him years ago.

RuPaul

RuPaul. At least, a lot of the ex-contestants on RPDR say so.

R352 Now, would a "mean" person try to save a drowning man with "loving energy"? Yeah, that's what I thought.

[quote]"I remember once I had this place that overlooked the Hudson River, and I saw this guy on a sailboat and it had capsized and I went to the phone thinking, 'I've got to call someone.' But then I thought, 'What's the best thing I can do? You know what? I'm gonna pray for this person. I'm gonna send them loving energy.'"

[quote]He does not say whether the man survived.

[quote]Johnny Carson was another celeb whose public persona did not match the real and nasty person underneath.

Years ago, I came across some celeb gossip site where people defended Carson when it came to how he threatened to disown his son for being in a relationship with a black woman.

Johnny Carson was a miserable alcoholic with a mean streak. Lucille Ball was very similar, esp. in her later years.

Back when Friends was still on, a Rolling Stone reporter spent the day on set with the cast. He had lunch with Courteney Cox and Jennifer Aniston, and was the one who originally wrote about Jennifer eating the same salad for lunch every day since the show began, and that she was somewhat embarrassed at the OCD nature of it.

Before he interviewed Matthew Perry and Matthew LeBlanc, Courteney told him that one Matthew will be friendly and easy to talk to, and one won't.

Celebrities who are as nice as they seem: Wilmer Valderrama, Henry Winkler, Kerry Washington, Shay Mitchell, Nick Offerman, Bellamy Young, Jeffrey Wright, Dennis Haysbert, Martin Sheen, Sterling K. Brown, Nathon Fillion, Jean Smart, Jake Johnson, Michael Weatherly, Milla Jovovich, Hector Elizondo, Pia Zadora

RuPaul is 60 year old drag queen recovering addict who lived through everything in NYC and Atlanta in the 80s and 90s. If you think that cunt is maternal you’re mistaken. She’s more Dorian Corey than Pepper LaBeija.

Also her memory is terrible, you hear it on her podcast. She gets everyone mixed up. Maybe she has dementia or something.

There was some super unflattering unauthorized bio of Mel Brooks that came out last year that I so don’t want to believe is true...but who knows. He was always one of my top 5 “if you could have anyone over for dinner” guests and their marriage seemed like such the real deal.

I actually saw them at a restaurant when I was about 12 (pretty sure it was 1990). We were all trying to be cool about it but my grandmother insisted on going up to them — and she motioned to all of us sitting at our table, and we all waved, or something like that.

Kind of embarrassed but at the end of the day glad she did it.

A high school friend happened to blunder across a location shoot for one of Mel Brooks's movies, back in the day. She said that Brooks talked cheerfully to her and her mother and showed them around, and that he was just great to two total strangers who has been gawking.

Of course my friend was a pretty blonde aged 16, which might gave something to do with his friendliness, but maybe not. She probably just caught him when he was feeling friendly and generous.

All these posts about Betty White reminded me. Didn't Bea Arthur say something like 'Look up cunt in the dictionary and you'll see Betty White'?

I thought that it was the other way around r362? No?

We need a companion thread for this one about "bad" celebs who actually aren't as bad as they're made out to be.

Have multiple friends who worked for Phil Donahue and they all loved him. In fact, most of them have stayed in touch with him all of the years later.

R234 she cheated on JT with Wade. And Kevin go with Brit while Shar was pregnant. But there's no way JT didn't cheat on her when they were together.

R306 it's called having a personality.

R308 I wonder if the mistress was Rachel Uchitel??

R326 I thought it was because Jennie's husband had hit on Tiffani and she told Jennie about it (and Jennie obviously blamed her for it happening).

R331 I think A LOT of the Buffy gossips is just that. Hannigan and Green are friends. Caufield and Gellar leave comments for each other on their IGs. Gellar and Boreanaz also leave comments

Green and Gellar are still close friends.

Justin Timberlake and Britney Spears are very hardcore gay. Some of this gossip is ludicrous.

[Quote] Caufield and Gellar leave comments for each other on their IGs.

They're chummy now, but that wasn't always the case. When someone asked Emma about SMG in an interview she said she'd rather talk about anal sex.

[quote] Harold Ramis is an asshole...[/quote]

Harold Ramis has been dead for six years.

But his assholiness continues, R371.

In a biography Lansbury writes about needing to establish boundaries, e.g.,a trip to buy bed linens is not a personal appearance. She is a thoroughly decent women.

[quote] I thought it was because Jennie's husband had hit on Tiffani and she told Jennie about it (and Jennie obviously blamed her for it happening).

I never heard that. Wow, that's shitty to blame Tiffani for that when it was the husband who hit on her. Completely irrational.

Martin short talked about sitting behind Lucille ball on a flight. She kept bugging him and her husband almost attacked short.

I was on holiday with my dad as a a couple of decades ago & we were inMontreal. I saw Minnie Driver with her tennis player boyfriend (at the time). I instantly recognized her and smiled at her. Her boyfriend said "She recognized you" to her & Minnie said "The fat ones always do".

True story. I was pretty crushed. I was only about twenty pounds overweight. Which I have since lost. It was such a cunt thing to say...

R376, that's fucking awful. You should have replied "the ones with big heads and no future always seem to be cunts".

Thanks R377 - it was really painful.

Jamie Lyn Bauer of the Young and the Restless was dating Winkler once and she said he gave her the best advice when dealing with fans " Be polite and that's it."

Sorry about your awful experience with Minnie Driver, R376. What a nasty bitch!

I hope you lost the weight because you wanted to and not because of her cruel jibe.

R376 I would have responded: What does my weight Jade to do with your non-existent acting career?

Seriously fuck her—what a CUNT

*have

r369 Both of them are gay? I need some receipts.

Most celebs are gay and succeeded because of compensation. Desperate to succeed. They have to Be on guard and not leak gay. Henry Winkler was gay and Jewish and perceived to be nice because he put a lot of effort into keeping his image nice. Rich actors have a lot less stress so it is easier to be nice.

R384 Total bullshit

Henry Winkler is NOT gay. Some of you are ridiculous.

Timberlake is a douche. He tried to get back together with Britney Spears to promote his video for Cry Me a River. Britney flat-out told Rolling Stone this in an interview. I believe her 100%.

[quote] Spears revealed after the split that Timberlake actually wanted to reunite with her ... possibly for press. She told Rolling Stone in 2003, "I think guys have egos, and when their egos get hurt and their pride's messed up, they deal in weird ways ... I think I was in shock, to be honest ... But you live and you learn. He called me up and asked me if it was OK. I can't believe I'm telling you this right now. But who cares. He called me up and wanted to supposedly get back together or whatever, but behind it was, 'And by the way, you're in a video that's coming out,'" she recalled. "That kind of got slipped in," she continued. "'Don't worry about it. It's not a big deal.' So the record label called and said, 'If you want to change this, you can.' I had the power to say no to the video. But I didn't, because I thought, 'Hey, it's your video.'"

Tiffani/Jennie: They became BFFs at one point. Tiffani was the videographer for Jennie's first childbirth. The rumor is that when Tiffani and Peter did a TV show together, Tiffani saw her flirting or fucking around, told Jennie, and Jennie blamed her. 5 years later, they divorce over rumors of cheating.

"[R308] I wonder if the mistress was Rachel Uchitel?? "

It was.

[quote] Tiffani/Jennie: They became BFFs at one point. Tiffani was the videographer for Jennie's first childbirth. The rumor is that when Tiffani and Peter did a TV show together, Tiffani saw her flirting or fucking around, told Jennie, and Jennie blamed her. 5 years later, they divorce over rumors of cheating

Yes, someone posted this above. Tiffani sounds like a nice person. I actually do think Shannen Doherty is probably nice but very direct person (that's what someone here has confirmed as well). She was definitely a terror in her younger years though.

R376, what a wretched thing to say to you... I think Minnie is bitter about her career. It was a serious freefall from A list movie making to television...and allegedly she doesn’t have any money.

[quote] Stars in the House convened the ladies of Desperate Housewives for a benefit for The Actors Fund a few weeks ago. Three glaring omissions: Teri, Nicolette, and Felicity. No one even mentioned Teri.

To be fair, Felicity tried, but the signal from her ankle bracelet kept causing technical interference.

r376, that chipmunk-cheeked cunt has no business criticizing anyone's physical appearance.

[quote] that chipmunk-cheeked cunt has no business criticizing anyone's physical appearance.

Perfect for blowjobs!

[quote]that chipmunk-cheeked cunt has no business criticizing anyone's physical appearance.

lol this made me laugh. But, I've known many women and a few men who aren't attractive and/or overweight, but they constantly criticize or make fun of other people's appearances.

Minnie always had an oddly shaped jawline. Wide on the sides, with a weak but pointy chin. She was kind of homely.

R390 she has a lot of long term friends so I think that’s at least somewhat a testament to her character.

R368 pretty sure Gellar and Green have been long time friends going back to their days as NY kid actors.

[quote] Bill Murray is now better known as an asshole, but in his earlier days people did think he was a nice guy.

Uh, you have that quite in the reverse. Early on he was considered an asshole. People love him now. Based on any of the press he’s had for the past two decades, he’s basically a saint.

R396, Still, she fucked Matt Damon when he was hot.

No words, Suprised this wasn’t a bigger deal. And of course Seth Meyers had to kiss her ass. If someone like Michael B Jordan told this story he would never work again

R401: She’s a fucking ugly cunt

R386. Yeah, he's so attractive I had to have him be gay to complete my fantasy. Being an actor is high stress. Straights are not willing to make sacrifices. Same with singers.

I remember an interview with a freshly-dumped-by-Matt Damon Minnie Driver saying that she's doing fine and that she will always be referred to "as an Academy Award nominee."

Clint Eastwood ,if gay, has done masterful job of hiding it. Some hints that he may be gay:

1. Shy in school despite being tall,handsome,and athletic.

2. First wife was bow wow.

3. Good friends with gays like Burt Reynolds and James Garner.

4. Relationships always seemed odd.

5. Son is gay

6. Sondra locks first husband gay. She admitted that she never slept with him. She went back to him after split with Clint.

7. All actors are gay.

8. Dated a dog like Sondra lock.

R404, He's besties with Bradley Cooper.

R227, it’s funny you say that. She’ll always be memorable to me for the few times that she guest hosted on The View. She was boring and had nothing to offer. But one time, the moderator introduced her for the day, expecting to get at least a polite smattering of applause from the audience. The room was so quiet, you could almost hear crickets. The other panelists looked stunned. It was cringy and embarrassing. No one gave a shit about her.

She never appeared on the show again.

If Minnie said that shit to me, I'd reply, "Aren't you Julie Kavner's daughter?"

I liked her as an actor but NEVER bought her as a hottie, no matter how they tried to foist her on us as one.

R407, That silly feud she had with her next door neighbor made her appear hostile.

R405. Interesting.

(R376) you can take satisfaction that she's another one of those actresses that starves themselves. I remember hearing she went on a lunch meeting with Jon Hamm. He ordered a cheeseburger, fries and a Coke and she had a glass of water. I'm not a big fan of Jon Hamm ( mean drunk) but I hope he ate every bite in front of her.

(R376) you can take satisfaction that she's another one of those actresses that starves themselves. I remember hearing she went on a lunch meeting with Jon Hamm. He ordered a cheeseburger, fries and a Coke and she had a glass of water. I'm not a big fan of Jon Hamm ( mean drunk) but I hope he ate every bite in front of her.

R251, I've met Benedict Cumberbatch and I honestly found him to be charm personified. There is something about him that makes you realise he has "it". His mother is the same. It was him that approached me and had a little chat, he was actually the only really friendly actor at that function, though I don't hold it against anyone at all. It was clear from being close up with them that many appeared aloof due to shyness/anxiety. And it's not like I'm the type to approach people either, so...

It really makes me think, as a few other posters have pointed out, how utterly weird it must be to be approached constantly, and mostly in inappropriate ways. I have this friend and she and her sister are just so weird about it. We live in a city with quite a few local celebrities about, plus it tends to be the first port of call for international celebrities too, so we come across them fairly regularly, and my friends turn into these bizarre, giggling freaks. They start whispering incredibly loudly "that's [so-and-so]", so that the person hears them and then they giggle and preen, and then sort of scream at the person and say "I love you, I love you" on repeat instead of trying to have a basic conversation. Have I mentioned these women are hovering around the 40 years old mark? Everyone we've bumped into (or who has been dragged into this, rather) has been lovely, but it is interesting to note how their body language is. I'm generally standing awkwardly behind, having been edged out by the others, and the number of celebrities who notice and make a point of saying hello and sort of turn their bodies towards someone like me who is not fussing all over them has always made me aware of how awkward this behaviour must be for them.

Shame about Minnie Driver; I'd always assumed she had a sense of humour about herself due to her appearance on Absolutely Fabulous.

I once had dinner with a baseball all-star to discuss his involvement in a charity function I volunteered with. He was SO charming. Within five minutes of sitting down, a fan interrupted our conversation and asked for his autograph. He smiled and signed. Then another person came, then another, then another. One told him he was pronouncing his last name wrong. One guy asked for the name of an insider in the baseball team's organization. It continued for an hour. He suggested we leave because his dinner got cold. He wasn't angry, just disappointed. He told me it happens all of the time. He can never eat out. I guess he's one of those who tolerates his own celebrity. Personally, I would have had enough after ten minutes of it. If he wasn't married, I would have invited him for coffee at my home. If he made a move, I would have jumped at it.

Honestly, Jennifer Lawrence looks like the type of girl who mainly hangs out with guys, belches as she chugs her beer and farts constantly. She seems like she would be really smelly.

I saw LA Law hunk Corbin Bernsen at the Vancouver BC airport with his wife and kids. They didn’t make eye contact with anyone. Got VIP treatment and was allowed to cut the line.

Red Skelton was a known porn addict. He was a neighbor of Ann Miller and she used to have late night rehearsals so to get back at her, he'd project hard core porn movies on her garage door at night.

R417, "Good night and God bless . . ."

Britney Spears acts over herself, she makes a big fucking deal out of her silly little feelings and dredges up ancient drama so she can try and manipulate people, create an opportunity to whine and subject others to circular nonsense when she has nothing else to talk about, yet still wants to be the center of attention.

I feel like I can remember the exact moment being "nice" became part of an artist's brand, if you know what I mean, and that was c. 2009 with Lady Gaga, who started always bringing up "the fans" and how important they were to her etc. Then I remember people like Rihanna and Katy Perry jumping on the bandwagon in a way that seemed so overdone. From there it exploded to everyone, especially with the rise of Twitter and how easy it is to now be in touch with celebrities. I don't remember it being like that before. The people who did interact with their audience, like Tori Amos for example, were always genuine about it, and if other artists were more shy and retiring, that was them and it didn't matter. Now everyone is automatically saying that they're doing stuff "for the fans", like they're throwing a sop to a dog.

I think the whole audience plant with some “random fan” they bring up on stage that can miraculously sing or dance really well is a pretty obvious gimmick now.

I like these kind of moments where the singer connects with their audience through the music in a real way—and there’s a moment where the artist realizes how much a particular song has resonated with fans during the performance. I’ve experienced this at concerts and the energy is really quite something.

^That was lovely, thank you for sharing.

R414 he clearly has the patience of a saint. I turn into an asshole when I'm hungry.

R419 what year is it where you are??

Useless fact: SMG and Macaulay Culkin are friends.

That Sara Bareilles girl (who?) sounds like a howler monkey.

[quote]William Shatner was hated by everybody on the Star Trek set, with the possible exception of Leonard Nimoy, who seemed to be able to tolerate him.

Toward the end of Nimoy's life he cut Shatner out completely, apparently because Shatner wanted him to be in a documentary about Star Trek captains and Nimoy said no, so Shatner secretly filmed him at a sci-fi convention and used the footage without permission. They even worked together on a project after that and Nimoy refused to speak to him at all, but also he didn't go blabbing to the press about the feud either. Shatner did, even writing a book about it after Nimoy died. Tacky as hell.

I have two acquaintances who have horses and compete in some of the same events Shatner does and they both separately said he was very odd. I accidentally got Shatner's attention myself when I wrote an article about his 80th birthday and he said some very strange things about me to an interviewer, as though he thought he knew me or had interviewed with me. The reporter he spoke to contacted me to confirm and when I said no, I hadn't interviewed Shatner, he said, "That doesn't surprise me, he was all over the place, his wife was the only thing keeping him somewhat coherent."

He recently divorced that wife seemingly out of nowhere. She went back to her family to deal with her brother's death and Shatner sent her divorce papers while she was planning the funeral.

He’s in his 80s, r426, so senility is probably the reason.

R427 that and being a cunt.

[quote]Red Skelton was a known porn addict. He was a neighbor of Ann Miller and she used to have late night rehearsals so to get back at her, he'd project hard core porn movies on her garage door at night.

I don't know if that's true or not, but the image of Ann Miller tapping up a storm inside her living room while a grainy, black and white porno plays on her garage door made me laugh out loud.

R426, He did not even try to resuscitate his wife when he discovered her floating in their pool because she was in the deep end, so he told 911.

[quote] I feel like I can remember the exact moment being "nice" became part of an artist's brand, if you know what I mean, and that was c. 2009 with Lady Gaga, who started always bringing up "the fans" and how important they were to her etc.

It was completely manufactured. Gaga has to be the most bogusly transparent major star from the past 30 years or so. Everything she does reeks of desperation, including her "everything but the kitchen sink" approach to making music and music videos. My friend saw Gaga in concert around 2010 and said she was a huge bitch to the audience and couldn't have been bothered to be nice. Her appearance on The Simpsons was the icing on the cake. And we also got to hear Lisa fucking whine for 30 minutes straight which made it even more unbearable.

R426, I've suspected Shatner's been slowly sliding into dementia for a while now.

R432 Unfortunately Nichelle is.

Well, I have a reason.

I was molested.

Farewell tour? Bitch thinks she’s Cher.

[quote]I hate post that include "I have a feeling" or "I get a creepy vibe from _fill in the black". If you don't have first or even second hand knowledge on said celebrity, you don't know what you're talking about.

While it's always great to hear first hand gossip about a celebrity, it's not what OP asked for. Maybe before criticizing others' contributions to a discussion, you should read the actual question:

[quote] who are some other celebrities you [bold]think might[/bold] not be as kind as they try to appear?

R102 I met Hume once at a play his wife was in. He was considerate and welcoming.

R431 I think you may have hit the nail on the head as to why I've never warmed to her, and it's the obvious artifice. If all that was genuinely the way she is, it'd come through and I'd probably respect her more. It's like the opposite of Grace Jones, to use an artist Gaga has clearly been inspired by. Grace Jones is who she is, all the crazy, over the top stuff she does is enjoyable because she doesn't come across like she's putting on an act. Gaga seems very calculated. It probably explains why when she used to talk about her music and what she was trying to achieve with it, it never made sense either.

So is Felica Day nice? I just watched her movie on HULU Pooka Lives and she's so endearing in everything she does but the fact that she only ever plays the nice girl seems a bit suspect.

Della Reese was a CUNT.

R440 can you elaborate?

R439 all I know is she's a Whedon fan.

Jason Bateman. Defended Jeffery Tambor. And did two Horrible bosses movies with Spacey. You know darn well Spacey pulled some s***. Never said one word. Hangs around Jon Hamm( is very much like his character in Bridesmaids). There also was a blind item about him and Jimmy Kimmel laughing about the MeToo# movement. Wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't cheat on that ugly wife.

Yeah, she used to come into a restaurant where I worked back in the day. She treated wait staff like shit. She'd snap her nasty fingers, swear and sneer. She had a mean nasty mouth. Must I go on? People that treat wait staff like dirt are the dregs of society. I used to see it now and then but she set the standard for being a bitch on steroids.

R443, Jason Bateman is married to Paul Anka's daughter.

Who R444?

Paul ankas daughter is ugly enough to be straight beard but probably she got gay gene from daddy

Tobey Maguire is a little prick. Nasty temper, and very entitled.

I'm not surprised about Jimmy Kimmel laughing at the metoo movement. I've always disliked him more than Jimmy Fallon.

I also remember some blind items that said Amy Poehler isn't nice as she seems. Then there are the rumors she cheated on Will Arnett with Louis CK and that CK is the real father of her younger son.

R450, ick.

Chrissy Teigen, who told a 17 year old Courtney Stodden she wished she would die and shit talked 9 year old Oscar nominee Quenvezhane Wallis for no reason

^ From above

And about Q Wallis

R265 I bet Dr. Pulaski enjoyed James Corden taking down not so nice Capt. Picard.

R157 They mentioned Nicolette, Teri & Felicity (I think Eva mentioned the last two).

Ricardo & Jesse were also named.

No James Denton mentions.

R449 oh like we don’t laugh about it on here every day?

Maybe they were making fun of Rose crazy-ass McGowan, just like everybody else.

"Jason Bateman. Defended Jeffery Tambor. And did two Horrible bosses movies with Spacey. "

So, R443, how many of your co-workers have you ratted out to the police or the media?

That's horrible, R379. She was complaining on Twitter how Harvey Weinstein told her she was too plain, which I thought was nasty at the time, but her saying that... nasty.

Jenny Garth was mentioned. There were also reports of a feud between her and a younger castmate on a tv show. I think it was Amanda Bynes.

Chrissy Teigen sounds like a DLer.

r404 During the ugly and public Locke-Eastwood split, it was revealed that her first husband was living all along on Eastwood's estate. I wonder whatever happened to him.

^^ Actually Locke's gay husband, Gordon Anderson, lived in a West Hollywood home that Eastwood purchased.

Locke and Eastwood never married, and she filed a palimony suit after they split. She made a multi-million dollar settlement, including the West Hollywood property worth $2.2 million.

She never divorced Anderson, whom she had known since they were in the 7th grade in Tennessee. She died at 74 in 2018.

[Quote] Jenny Garth was mentioned. There were also reports of a feud between her and a younger castmate on a tv show. I think it was Amanda Bynes.

There were lots of blind items about Amanda trying to get under Jennie's skin. Mainly about Amanda wanting to fuck her husband.

I've worked as an entertainment reporter on and off for a while in Hollywood. It's been loads of fun and I've met tons of stars including many favorites and have had my work published in many top publications (People, Variety, TV Guide).

I have horror stories and, looking back, I can see many times people were being nice to me because they wanted to come off well to my readers.

I don't think actors, generally speaking, there are exceptions of course, should be friends, parents, or ever come near their fans. They simply don't know how to be nice to other people. If they're being ignored, they're furious; if they're being asked for an autograph, they act like they're being stalked.

Social media has been a game changer - actors don't need reporters anymore. They tell their fans what they want them to know. I don't see Hollywood bouncing back anytime soon with COVID-19. I hope to find something else when all this is over.

^ For Christ's Sake, DO TELL!

I've personally seen Chris Pine staggering drunk in public. Guy is a mess.

[quote]George Harrison had more of a peace and love persona

George Harrison was known for personally hosing down anyone who took a shortcut across the lawn of his Hawaiian property.

R453 r454 Wow she's a nasty bitch isn't she. Stodden is a harmless dummy and going after a kid is just pathetic .

R463 - Thanks. Yes, that's it. I vaguely remember reading blinds about it on CDAN a couple of years back.

Minnie has stated her boundaries...

How does Minnie earn a living? I can't recall the last time I saw her in anything? Does she have other sources of income?

Here's the real scoop on 'friends'. First half of the season one, all six were professional, polite and appreciative. Then the showing started to take off and virtually overnight, they turned into fucking monsters! Except for LeBlanc (too sweet and dumb to ever go to the dark side) and Lisa Kudrow (who really is "Phoebe" and happy to be off in her own world). The other four became the clique of mean rich high school kids and terrified or dismissed (if you were lucky) everyone around them (particularly crew and writers). There was occasional infighting within their coven but they were always allied against anyone who wasn't them. I wish them ill.

George Harrison was full of shit. He was deeply spiritual (and hectoring) one minute and literally doing coke off some whore's tits the next. A walking contradiction and example of the duality of human nature or another entitled asshole who subjected believed his own bullshit? Wrote some great tunes though.

Not surprised by that, R472. David Schwimmer and Jen Aniston have always come across as monstrous assholes to me and so has Courtney Cocks.

R473 it's possible to be spiritual while doing coke off some whore's tits, which is a bullshit characterization anyway.

I want R464's horror stories!

Julianna Margulies is a cunt

[quote]Julianna Margulies is a cunt

Arcie Panjabi has joined the chat.

*Archie.

My sister Cate is a total cunt.

r474, look at me, look at me, look at me. Her name is Courtney Loves-Cocks.

[quote]After her first two albums, Whitney became a lot more direct and confrontational in interviews, sometimes understandably so. She REALLY hated interviewers asking her about Mariah and the (in my opinion, completely exaggerated) similarities between them. It's funny because even during THAT time, she still was considered a sweetheart.

I genuinely believe Whitney was a sweetheart until the industry wore her down. Even Bobby Brown admitted that she didn't get into showbiz for the reasons he, and others, did but actually wanted to sing more than the trappings of stardom. It's true she got combative in interviews after she got too big to take down but she had to deal with a lot. However, what irritated her the most wasn't the Mariah Carey comparisons, but 1). the questioning her "blackness" which culminated with the infamous booing at the soul train awards driving her to pursue Bobby Brown that same night and 2). doubting of her marriage which she became very defensive about.

Then there was the usual bullshit women in show business had to go through had to put up with. Check out this video from 1986 of Paul Schafer being super creepy to her on TV. I think she held up well under the circumstances.

Another one of Whitney having to ward off an old French lech Serge Gainsbourg on live French TV. I can see why she would turn into a bitch.

I admire her restraint, the poor woman looked shocked throughout the whole thing. Serge deserved a swift kick in the balls. He really looks like an older version of Vincent Cassel lol

To be fair, Whitney Houston was never comfortable with the good girl image. From an 1995 Time Magazine article:

[quote]Interviewed recently on a beach near her getaway home in Miami, Houston, 32, projected the contradictions. As she arrived clad in a form-fitting purple dress, hand in hand with Brown--the two have reconciled after a recent separation--she seemed ready for a camera to swoop down for an adoring close-up. Yet she also flashed some feisty homegirl attitude. "People think I'm Miss Prissy Pooh-Pooh, but I'm not; I like to have fun," she says, jabbing a finger in the air. "I can get down, really freakin' dirty with you. I was born in Newark, New Jersey, with two brothers and a very strong father. It made me tough--perhaps too tough."

She was trying to tell everybody she could that she and Bobby were a perfect match.

Gainsbourg was one of the most disgusting men who ever lived. Just oozed sleaze and pretended it was edgy sophistication. And I'm gonna get yelled at for this but like a lot of Frenchmen of the same disposition, you just know he smelled. Reeked, even.

R486 Catherine Ringer pretty much confirms what you say during her interview alongside him around the same time as the Whitney one, after Gainsbourg started tearing into her. I find it hilarious the man who sung a sexually charged duet with his own daughter, titled "Lemon Incest", is shouting "Nous avons des éthique!" at her.

In his eyes it is different when it is a heterosexual man doing it, R487. He's allowed to be as sleazy and grotesque as he wants because he's a man. He's repulsive.

Some people (including celebrities are cunts), others are genuinely nice people (including some celebrities) and most are somewhere in-between (including celebrities).

However, I wouldn't take one incident as proof of anything really . Having said that you do hear lots of nice stories. I remember one about Ellen Burstyn from the late 1970s/early 1980s. She was rushing through an airport and a fan tried to stop her for an autograph and Ellen brushed her off. As Ellen kept walking about five steps later she stopped, went back to the fan, apologised and signed an autograph. I think that story (it may not even be true) illustrates that celebrities all have their bad days or a moment when its not a good time to sort of ambush them.

The only story I have is I was in a book store decades ago looking through some books and I noticed a man who looked familiar. Naturally I sort of started to stare, he smiled and then I realised it was Hugo Weaving. I went back to browsing through the books, a little embarrassed because I don't approach famous people but it was one of the instances where I didn't recognise the person and started thinking do I know them personally before realising that I do but I really don't.

I friend told me a similar story with someone else (who wouldn't be known to DataLounge) who rather than reacted graciously snapped back 'Take a fucking picture - it will last longer' it was only after that comment did he realise who he was staring at put couldn't place. I imagine famous people get stares all the time and often its because people can't place who they are and think its someone they know personally.

He also got naive Frances Gall to do this song and video she thought was about lollipops. Later he put in footage of models sucking on big phallic lollipops, which was clearly sexual in nature.

“Les Sucettes (Lollipops) was recorded in 1966–the story of a girl who is “in paradise” every time “that little stick is on her tongue”. Upon discovering the dual meaning of the risqué lyrics, Gall refused to perform the song and never worked with, nor spoke to Gainsbourg again.”

I agree about celebs--a lot of fans are pushy af and have this huge sense of entitlement when they encounter a fan in public who is just trying to have some sort of a personal life. These are usually people that then go back online and talk shit, so it puts celebs in a difficult position when a fan is clearly just an asshole--or trying to provoke them into some kind of negative interaction for publicity, negative attention, etc. Sometimes people just get so excited that they behave badly. That's why many fans avoid being in public and have assistants do mundane tasks they might otherwise do themselves.

Sometimes they get access to stores before they are open. I worked in a store in college in the 90s and Lou Gossett Jr was in the store before we opened, buying CDs for the crew. He was filming Diggstown, if I remember correctly. Super nice and I was friendly and chatted with him like a regular customer.

*encounter a celebrity

r490 - LOL and to be a fly on the wall when someone finally told her, “Frances, you’re singing about sucking dick!”

Have You Got a Nickel?

Paul Shaffer was so gross and pervy to her in that video. Shit like that would never be tolerated today.

I wrote this before. Jagger used to come into B. Dalton on 5th Av by himself and browse and I never saw anybody bother him.

R495, I agree. The Shaffer clip is bad enough but the one with the disgusting, repulsive Serge Gainsbourg was even creepier. And Whitney Houston was someone whose mother was an established backing vocalist in the business and cousin Dionne a global pop star. Plus, she had Clive Davis as her industry mentor. If icky men like Shaffer and Gainsbourg behaved like that with someone like Houston (with her showbiz connections) I shudder to think of what other young women without any connections would have gone through.

It's a pity Whitney couldn't have decked those assholes without racist trolls immediately calling her an angry black woman.

I can only imagine all the gross, pervy shit from men that women in the Industry had to put up with back in those days.

Oh how `I love Serge. I heard they are making a movie about his life now. Can't wait.

He was a rascal and anyone who didn't know that was stupid and deserved to get tricked by him.

Don't forget Minnie glaring as her ex, Matt, won his Oscar. And her great quote later: "He was hung like a cashew." Never looked at him the same again, howl.

R499 They've already made one.

Mary Martin was a high-riding cunt who would have her minions cut a bitch for her. Then she would bring the wounded party a cake and feign innocence. Angela Lansbury is another one who lays down boundaries and makes demands with the best of them, but always through an intermediary.

Plenty of others just do it themselves, bare handed. But not these two.

Thanks, R501! How'd I miss that!

r482 r483 Paul Schaffer is Jewish and Gainsbourg was the son of Jewish Russian migrants

George Hurrell was not a Mary Martin fan, at least not as a photographic subject. He said that her low forehead and prominent jawline made her difficult to photograph. She did have a great body though.

And was a champ at carpet munching.

I think that Chip and Joanna Gaines are nice for the camera, business and when they are within their "belief" box. In all their shows, they never have had a gay couple, a minority that was not associated with Baylor or was lower middle class. Sure, they had the poor veteran and his wife, but that fits the religious right box. Their businesses, including the restaurant are closed on Sunday. I respect their right to be closed on Sunday, but their reasoning is all around religion, not because they are doing it for employees. I suspect that when pressed on some progressive social issues, they become defensive and quote the bible but say they love everyone. There is some underlying issue here.

Compare that to Ben and Erin of Hometown. They help rich and poor, black and white and there have been a couple of people that are likely members of the LBGTQ community. I watched their interview conducted at Liberty University. While Ben is a PK and both professed their faith in JC, they clearly did not bite at the underlying comments from the interviewer. They came off as a couple that have faith, but do not let it box them in caring for or interacting with all within society. Nice people.

You marry someone who can do your dirty work for you. This way you can play good cop/bad cop. You're a wonderful person and your husband/wife is a terror.

Babs Cook has a good Mary Martin is a bitch story in her autobio.

[quote]Paul Schaffer is Jewish and Gainsbourg was the son of Jewish Russian migrants

Their Jewishness is irrelevant. Just nasty, entitled men. Schaffer really is surprising. Doesn't fit with his likeable David Letterman image.

r508 someone called Gainsbourg a Frenchman when his parents were not from France

R509 And yet... he's considered French.

r510 And yet... he is not.

I always thought Schaffer was gay. He co-wrote It’s Raining Men for chrissake

It's Raining Men was originally offered to Donna Summer but she turned it down because that was the period where she was going through her Jesus phase.

r509 Born and raised in France, only spoke French and a French cultural icon. Sounds like a Frenchman to me.

Gainsbourg was Russian Jewish.

R513 damn imagine how big a gay icon she would have been had she taken that song.

I love it just the way it is, though.

Also, speaking of Paul Schaffer, I read (I think in her autobiography) that he dated Valerie Bertinelli. That’s just weird.

[Quote] I can only imagine all the gross, pervy shit from men that women in the Industry had to put up with back in those days.

I don't think it's much better these days.

Never meet your fave they will disappoint. I met Alice Waters once at a conference and she just gave me a blank stare.

r514 By your standard I guess that makes everyone born in America a Native American.

Oh for fuck's sake, R519! Nobody in the English-speaking world gives a rat's ass if a Frenchman who speaks French and lives in France and who is a celebrity in the Francophonic world is ethnically French!

From here he's French for all practical purposes, so shut your trap.

r520 When people call him an "old French lech" and say that "like a lot of Frenchmen of the same disposition, you just know he smelled. Reeked, even", it has to be acknowledged that he is not ethnically French. Sorry that upsets you so.

[quote]Alan Rickman was an absolute cunt to everyone he came into contact with.

He was a very polite and friendly man. But he knew that he was a major sex symbol to women and mercilessly cut down flirtatious female fans, usually teens and fifty-somethings, who wanted to polish his wand.

Calling Serge Gainsbourg a sleazy cliche Frenchman is somehow less offensive than calling him a sleazy cliche Jew.

Harsh winter forces a bit of emotional structure. I'm assuming you think the cold affects your mood. You don't escape winter mood by living in year round sunny climate. It's normal for humans to chase pleasure but it's not always functional. You enjoy spring and summer because of winter suffering. Sunny climates are bad for your skin.

[quote]You don't escape winter mood by living in year round sunny climate.

Really? I did.

[quote]You don't escape winter mood by living in year round sunny climate.

Lies

[quote]Sunny climates are bad for your skin.

Funny that the grey skies of middle england and the ever youthful Anglo-Saxon complexions there-in have given us the idiom "White Don't Crack".

[quote]Sunny climates are bad for your skin.

... said no Caribbean person ever.

I want to hear from the poster about Lynda Carter being a drunk bitch at her kid's school.

R521 Is Harvey Weinstein Jewish or American?

Any Teri Garr stories?

I've never heard a bad thing about Ron Howard and he's been around for a hundred years. He seems awfully nice.

I know this falls under politics. But what do you make of Matt Damon viciously going after Obama all the time when he was president but keeping his yap shut about Trump saying he should be given a chance? Same with Nicole Kidman. Red flag!

Matt Damon has said a few strange things in his time. I try to read things and imagine context but it made no sense to me. When he mentioned people shouldn't speak about their sexuality or something to that effect because it adds to the mystery. Yet he can refer to his wife and kids as much as he wants.

^^ Sorry, people = actors.

From the Guardian: The actor, who Elizabeth Day dubbed “Hollywood’s ultimate everyman”, has sparked another controversy following remarks in the interview that actors should steer clear from disclosing their sexuality “because that’s the one of the mysteries” actors “should be able to play”.

South Park creators pretty much nailed Matt Damon in Team America.

Matt Damon is gay and what he says is scripted to make sure he sounds straight.

Well maybe he's bi. When you can sleep with most people you want to why not? Like Brando. I think he's was genuinely bi. Rita Moreno thinks he was a fabulous lover. You can't be a great lover to women if you don't feel any genuine connection. You can get it up if you're gay but you can't really get into it.

Matt Damon also had that moment where he whitesplained diversity to a black woman on a reality show.

R536 delayed posting from 1956

Matt is a typical limousine liberal. Is he even a real Southie?

The late Charles Pierce told this story. He guested on Wonder Woman and was the subject of very bad anti-gay harassment. Carter heard about it, called a meeting on the set and said "No one on this set will be belittled. We are all professionals. Let's act like it". Case closed. No more harassment.

R541, that makes me love Lynda even more.

That’s great to hear, especially given it was the 70s. Go Lynda!

Matt is a good man.

Loved that story about Lynda Carter; I always had a good feeling about her, it's so nice to hear stuff like that.

R532, Oprah was another who, in 2016, said we should give Trump a chance.

Was this before or after the election? If it was after that's fair enough. We all hoped against hope he would rise to the occasion and have a staff that would help him. Of course it turned out far far more catastrophic than most of us could have imagined.

Oprah and Matt Damon have lost touch. But I guess it happens when you “make it”. Who’s to say that they wouldn’t do the same thing given the same success in life that they have?

I'm University educated and worship Trump. He's perfection. I realize you hate him but I have no idea why. I don't see how Trump could be more liberal. Michael Jackson had the power to do whatever he wanted . I hope that's not the kind of power you r after.

Wow somebody is lost. In all senses.

R549 Sir, this is a Wendy's.

R464 here; I mostly blame myself for thinking people would be nice.

Even if someone was being nice, he/she had an agenda.

Mine was to write a good story, get a scoop and see if any of these folks were able to be human beings.

They were not. Are not. I've learned the hard way to keep my distance.

I'm not saying don't meet your idols, I'm saying just be secure in yourself by the time you do.

R464 what is your impression.of celebs not being nice people — is it more just who they are as people - or more a consequence of being a celebrity? Would be interested to hear your perspective.

Christine Baranski. I believe it was here on DL that I first read of her disdain for her fans but it's been mentioned on other forums as well. It was disappointing to hear as she seemed so down to earth on Colbert and such but then again she is an actress.

This is about Debra Messing. allegedly, About a year ago, Megan Mullally was on ET, or Extra, or one of those entertainment promo shows, walking casually around the W&G set, chatting with a reporter. Suddenly from off camera and another part of the set comes this high decibel, blood curdling scream that was way too loud to overlook. The reporter's reaction was of the "What . . . was that??" vein, to which Megan replied "Oh, don't let that get to ya. It's just another day on the Will & Grace set!".

[quote]Also, her (Angelina Jolie) beauty is far from natural. She wears facial merges, arm and leg merges and a vaginal merge. She's legit fugly without her magical face.

What? What are these merges you speak of?

R556, Sears and Roebuck, Rose.

What are these merges? You mean digital merges on video?

I remember a long time ago reading that Roz Russell was holding a party for her fans. The kind of sorry desperate individuals who hang out constantly at stage doors and live their lives brushing up against their idols. She called them the 'dogs.' In other words she held a party for her celebrity friends and then another one for the dogs.

Streisand would complain about how ugly the people were who would hang out at the Winter Garden stage door. I guess the attractive people were living life. Not that anyone ever thought of Babs as a nice person.

R559 . . . or an attractive one.

"If they can't handle it then get out of the business."

Considering how many don't handle yet remain in the business, it's not really a truism.

Debra Messing was selected for People’s 50 Most Beautiful back when WILL AND GRACE was white hot. She sounded insufferable in the interview...like she was hot shit and her Eastern European cheekbones were what made her hot and how she became “a la Debra “. Or something like that. Can’t remember the exact same words but it sounded cringey 😬.

Julianne Moore. Seriously.

[Quote] Debra Messing was selected for People’s 50 Most Beautiful back when WILL AND GRACE was white hot.

So she was number 50?? Right??

perhaps in this Lea Michelle era, actors will turn on the charm and be nicer to little people and bigger people; I don't give a shit if they mean it or not but just be professional.

I think we're going to see more of this stuff where day players and extras just start tweeting out So and So was a CUNT to me when I was a guest star or an extra and depending on which way the wind blows, it's not going to go well for them.

Apparently, sweet, funny Edie McClurg is a major cunt in real life.

Giada Delaurentis!

A friend worked on SATC. She said Sarah was nice to the women but cold to the men.

R8 Oh Kelly Rippa for sure. Her middle name is literally - pretentious backstabbing phony bitch. What do the AC’s see in that fag hag cunt.

R568 interesting...most actresses tend to be just the opposite (insecurity about feeling threatened, and all that).

Ellen, Fallon, and Deb Messing own this thread.

^and Kelly and Ryan

Thunder cunt makes me laugh.

R571 Hope you're not serious about Jimmy Fallon. I see him out and about in the Hamptons all the time. He never gets upset when someone wants a selfie or to interrupt his dinner. In every restaurant the waiters and bartenders love him.

Tom Selleck always seemed very patient and polite with fans. Is he really that nice? Anyone have any stories to tell?

I worked the press junket years ago for "In and Out" in NYC. Tom Selleck was a total pleasure (yes I knew he was conservative at time). He was pleasant and professional to everyone. Kevin Klne on the other hand was a pompous prick.

Ben Platt. I bet he's a brat behind the scenes.

Will Smith. He seems like a violent sociopath behind closed doors.

I seriously doubt that, R578!

But just because I think he's a narcissist, not a sociopath. Most big movie stars have textbook cases of NPD, it's a huge career advantage.

R579 I don't think he's a sociopath because he's a narcissist, it's a combination of past comments he's made, his entitlement complex, the fact that he's incredibly rich and famous, and the vibe I get from him.

Wait, really R563? Does DL have stories about Julianne Moore?

R238 By that time gossip sites had been saying for years her reputation was fake, but the public didn't know.

r582 I think many people knew they just didn't care because her voice was incredible. It wasn't until all her personal problems really began affecting her voice and her appearance, that was when the public really began noticing.

R575, I have one story.

A friend was in a movie with Kevin Kline and said he's very literal; you can use any puns around him; he'll take you seriously.

Sounds like a real fun guy.

I have also heard nothing but great things about Fallon. But if you happen to catch him on one rare bad day and that's the only time you've met him then you're going to have a bad impression.

That's true of all celebrities.

*can't use any puns around him

R581 -

Uber Cunt progressive Judy Woodruff.

You miserable cunts should be thanking all show biz celebrities for bringing some sparkle and escape into your dreary sad lives.

Bf works in film and said that John Slattery was a real asshole.

Chris Hardwick fits.

John Slattery IS an asshole.

R592 I guess I figured he’d be a nice guy for some reason. He apparently had real issues with women.

How does Hardwick even have a career? Such a cipher.

Chris Evans. Something about his "sensitive anxious nice guy" act rubs me the wrong way. I think it's all smoke and mirrors engineered by Disney to give reason to him being an asshole to crew members. Or maybe to give him a reason to not have much social media, when in reality it's because he'd be a dick to fans or something.

Chris Evans seems like a huge asshole.

R595, well, he PLAYS America’s ass !

Evans has admitted to having an anxiety disorder.

R596 Which he's too narcissistic and stuck-up to even show.

Talk about projection. Chis Evans "seems" like a huge asshole? Really? He always comes off as charming and game in interviews. Who seems all jelly....

Bappa Booey

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