Suri Cruise just turned 14!

:Wow she looks like a real combo of both of them.

I joked about her name right here on Datalounge. I'm so old.

She absolutely does look like both of them. Does the clam have contact with her?

Absolutely a combo of both. Not to be unkind: not necessarily the best combo of both.

She's a bit horsey looking: strong features, without any of the doe-eyed prettiness that Katie used to have.

She'll be attractive enough, but no raving beauty.

She's a lot better looking than a lot of other celeb kids, R4.

That said, does Katie still have to carry her around?

She looks more like a mini-Tom here.

It'll be interesting to see if she gains Katie's height in adolescence.

She's adorable. She's still a kid.

Shes ugly in some pictures,pretty in others.

She looks like her mother. I've always wondered who the biological father it.

She has his teeth.... post dental work

Chris Klein.

Regrettable fashion choices.

NOKD.

When she was little I believed she was Chris Klein's child but she does look more like Tom now. She has small eyes like Klein, though.

R6, The taller ones feet are gross!

IT'S LIKE THEY FACE/OFFed TOM AND KATIE!

I mean if she wants to be an actress she's set for life, but the Scientology of it all, her being like... the Moses of it, would be tricky. Anyway, god bless her and keep her.

Wow, at R12.

She looks exactly like Katie.

[quote] I've always wondered who the biological father it.

I've always wondered why some gay men are so dumb they think being a closet case means someone can't possibly have fathered a child by any means, even when the kid bears a pretty strong resemblance to him.

Oh, girl. I can't even...

Her father could wear that dress with more innate grace and femininity.

What's in her diary?

Look. Tom's cum ended up in Katie and that kid came out, that much we KNOW, because that's CRUISE'S SMILE!

NOW! Was Tom the one that came in Katie is a separate question altogether. Knowing how fucked Scientology is, I wouldn't be surprised if they told her his thetan levels were too high for her to survive sexual intercourse with him, so it all would need to be done in vitro, but I bet they told her even [italic]that[/italic] would be risky. But she was a young actress at the time. You saw how excited (and terrified) she was to be with him on Oprah's couch. That was some fucked up, culty indoctrination shit that went down back in the summer of 05, and Suri will forever be a result of that.

Is she the Scientological Messiah? Does the church LOATHE that Katie took her from the faith? Are they now, at this moment, in their Gilman Hot Springs base, conducting tests on various wombs, seeking the one most fitting to carry Cruise's seed?

Like Tom, she looks really Kurdish.

Has the young lass learned to walk yet? Or is Holmes still carrying her around?

Isn't she considered a suppressive person?

R22, R5 wondered the same thing.

I remember reading a year or 2 ago that Tom hadn't had any contact with her in 5 years. I wonder if they're still incommunicado?

I get Rhoda Penmark vibes from her.

She's got strong features that may look better on an adult than on an adolescent. She was lucky enough to get Katie's lanky build, and there's plenty of money for whatever cosmetic procedures she needs to refine what nature gave her.

Shiloh-Jolie Pitt also looks pretty good, if you like the baby butch look.

She is still going through her awkward phase. How many cute kids grow up to be hideous and how many gawky kids grow up to be gorgeous? I think we won’t know who she is until she hits her late teens.

[quote] I remember reading a year or 2 ago that Tom hadn't had any contact with her in 5 years. I wonder if they're still incommunicado?

Only four more years until she can officially join the cult!

Shiloh-Jolie Pitt looks like Boy-of-the-Month from the NAMBLA limited edition calendar, R27.

I think she’s going to be a real beauty in the next few years.

Haha R30.

Clearly, Shiloh is going for a Brad Pitt look, circa "Thelma & Louise" era.

She really does look like him.

R24 Whoops. Didn't see r5s comment.

Shiloh is a happy blend of her parents.

Knox and Vivienne didn't get quite so lucky, but maybe they'll improve with age.

Back to the main topic, Suri is lucky her mother got her out of there when she did. Given her suppressive upbringing, the cult won't want her now.

Suri is lucky Katie isn’t like Charlize Theron or Angelina Jolie who force their kids to be trannies

Oh dear, R35. They resemble the "test pancakes" in the batch you're supposed to throw away and not eat.

Shiloh, I'm awarding you points.

Wait a second.

Are two of Angie and Brad's kids, trans?

I thought Shiloh was the only one.

Apple Martin got her father's wonk-eyes. She can't say too much about Knox and Vivienne.

Vivienne used to dress in a more feminine way, but not lately.

It will be interesting to see how Shiloh and Vivienne present themselves once they are older and out of their mother's control.

That's a lot of forehead at R40.

Sorry, but no one procreated like the Witherspoon-Phillippes.

Looks like the only non-trans kid in R40's pic, is the adopted one.

Reese and Ryan's kids got the opposite gender parent's face. Ava looks exactly like Ryan, and Deacon looks like Reese. He even got her chin.

You know Angie has fucked up all of those kids. If Brad wants a prayer of any normal offspring, he's going to have to try again with another, less borderline woman.

Suri can join Matilda Ledger in a reboot of "Dawson's Creek" in about five or so years.

R42 Jesus, those are some good genes.

I read APPLE-MARTINI R39 lol

Unless she slims up considerably, I don't see a big acting career for Matilda.

I'm calling it now: You'll never see Deacon Phillippe with a facial tattoo.

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I said a FACIAL tattoo. Deacon may very well get a lot of ink, but he's not stupid enough to mark up his face.

Also, he's probably too scared of his mother to try that shit.

R40 yeah. Those kids are cute little clones of their parents.

I meant r42. The Pitt/Jolie kids are like a box of chocolates.

Anyone who doesn't see the resemblance to Tom Cruise is a fucking idiot. Even if he's gay, you do know he could still be her father, you stupid cunts. How the fuck do you think Andy Cohen got a kid?

Ridiculous post and OP photo....obviously, Helen Hunt is this teenager's father!

Suri looks a lot like her father.

Again, why do you guys think it's impossible for Tom Cruise to make sperm? You understand that science makes it so a gay man doesn't actually have to stick his penis in a woman to have a child. There is a biological need even with men -esp. narcissistic ones- to procreate.

So explain to me this nonsense where you think he can't be her father when dick-in-pussy isn't actually required? I mean is he sterile?

[quote] I mean is he sterile?

There were some who believed he was sterile because he wasn't able to get Mimi Rogers pregnant. At the time people blamed her age, but she had children after they divorced. Then Nicole Kidman miscarried but some thought Ewan McGregor was the father because of a rumored affair.

Mimi Rogers' womb was insufficient.

"How the fuck do you think Andy Cohen got a kid?"

Immaculate conception?

You can't (and shouldn't) judge the appearance of kids and state "oh, they'll always be ugly" when many "homely" or odd looking kids grow up to be gorgeous adults...as well as the reverse. Many times, really cute kids grow up to be really unattractive adults.

Oh, god, R48, is Michelle Williams a terrible mother?

Suri is a very pretty girl and am sure will be moreso after her “hollywood makeover” She is going to be a huge star isn’t she?

R48 not everyone can be a leading lady, there need to be character actors as well( if she has any of her parents acting talent)

Wow, Matilda is only 14 and she's already developed a lot. That poor girl is going to have back problems by the time she's 17. She's definitely going to need breast reduction if she's already that big @ 14yo. She isn't done "growing." I mean I know girls want to have something up top, but when you're that young with large breasts, you get unwanted attention.

I could make a feast outta those funbags at R48.

Wow she's really beginning to look like Tammy.

It’s a shame about the face. She certainly inherited her dad’s more trollish features. At least she inherits a lot of money with it.

She looks annoying as fuck.

She does look like Tom, but I still think she resembles Tommy Davis as well.

Does Katie still have to carry her around?

The Jolie-Pitt kids aren't really cute. Shiloh has potential to grow into a good looking adult, but I think she'll always identify as a male. Personality wise, they will all probably be very weird.

Look wise, the Witherspoon/Phillippe was a winning combo as far as kids. They seem normal too.

Nah Ava Phillipe is the spitting image of her mom, except without the chin. So prettier, obviously.

She even has his wonky teeth! Maury doesn't even need to come in today, for this goose is well cooked. I don't think Cruise's cock saw an inch of Katie's cooch though. Believe that.

Very good point, R58.

R71, that's the THIRD time someone asked that. You're very late to the party.

[quote] Suri is a very pretty girl and am sure will be moreso after her “hollywood makeover” She is going to be a huge star isn’t she?

Will Smith tried harder than anyone else to make his kids famous, and it still hasn't happened.

Having famous parents doesn't guarantee success in Hollywood.

Smith's children didn't get his charisma or his work ethic. They'll float along doing weird, non-commercial creative projects and pulling stunts on red carpets to keep their public profiles going, but not much more than that. If he wanted them to not be celebutards, he shouldn't have spoiled them rotten.

Exactly, R76.

And Suri is just as spoiled. You can tell.

However, I don't think that Katie is going to push her into acting. She seems like she is pretty much sheltering Suri from the spotlight.

The best decision Suri could make would be to go to college and become an ordinary successful person, like a lawyer or doctor or teacher. The lower her public profile, the less she'll be harassed by the cult, which is mostly obsessed with obtaining celebrities. Becoming a successful actress would once again make her a prime Scientology target.

I see Tom Cruise in her face.

Poor thing. I hope his crazy is entirely due to brainwashing and not a genetic predisposition.

I'm not particularly a fan of Katie Holmes' acting, but I will say: she seems like a good, protective Mom. The kid is going to be in the public eye no matter where she lives. Suri appears to live the life of just another (fabulously rich) kid in Manhattan. And Katie's single greatest act was removing Suri from the influence of the COS.

I wouldn't be surprised if Tom made a play to re-enter her life when Suri is 18, and Katie can no longer limit her exposure to the Cult. Hopefully Katie is nurturing the hell out of that girl's self-esteem, making her less vulnerable to being sucked in by the Clams.

Cult baby!

That kid is a Mapother through and through. Katie seems like a good mum, but I always get the vibe that Suri has been babied way too much for her own good.

The teeth are a dead give away. Katie had Suri's straightened, but they still have that off-kilter placement that almost makes it look like she has three front teeth. Tom had the exact same thing for a long time.

I think his teeth still look like that. Even expensive dental surgery couldn't really correct that problem.

That's HIS KID, and anyone who denies it at this point is posting from a Floridian beach.

[quote] [R71], that's the THIRD time someone asked that.

Well, gee whiz, r75, I never noticed that.

Actually R83 I think that's ONE of the reasons Katie did a run for it. I think the cult and Tom were treating her like royalty and Katie wanted a more real, sane life for her. As soon as she left Tom and settled in to her new life, she and Suri were seen out and about and she made Suri go to a real school and ride public transport, etc...things that she would never have been able to do under the cult. The reason she used to carry her around was because the paparazzi would follow them and cram cameras into their faces. Suri was covered by a blanket a lot of times, looking terrified, and that's when Katie looked like hammered shit with dark circles under her eyes and way too thin.

Wouldn't that suck donkey balls, if after all this time of Katie protecting Suri, that Suri decided she wants to know her dad, and moves in with him?

I can totally see that happening.

Kids are funny that way.

That entire situation is odd. None of it adds up or make sense. Hopefully, Holmes will write a tell all, that tells all of us WTF she was thinking to get wrapped up with a nutter.

Hi Surrey,

Ddday lvose yuo.

Tmo

Does Tom ever get to see Suri?

Do they share custody of her, or does Katie have Suri full time?

R4, so what? Welcome to the 21st century jerk, women don't need to be pretty man-pleasers to make it in the world. Surprised, ah?

Not that Hollywoodlife.com is the most reliable source, but this article suggests that Katie's plan for Suri was 1) escape with no warning; 2) file for divorce with no warning; 3) demand sole custody; 4) by making Tom choose between his daughter or protecting the reputation of the Church of Scientology, knowing that he'd choose the cult and not the kid.

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Congratulations Katie Holmes! She achieved her key objective, winning sole custody of Suri Cruise, according to Radaronline. She blindsided Tom Cruise by filing for divorce in NYC on June 28, 2012 and demanding sole custody of Suri. Now, a settlement has been reached in record time and no doubt, it was Katie’s aggressive legal strategy: filing first in New York, a state more likely to grant sole custody than California, and then filing for a public hearing (in an emergent application) on July 17 in NYC, that forced Tom to the table for ultra-quick settlement talks. Katie was photographed heading into her lawyer’s offices both Friday and saturday as the legal teams negotiated furiously.

It was a strategy masterminded with the help of Katie’s supportive lawyer dad, Martin Holmes, and it put Tom immediately on the defensive. He clearly didn’t want any Scientology dirty laundry revealed in court. There was already enough bad publicity everywhere in the media about Scientology’s strange and oppressive training for children and more.

“Katie got what she wanted. She wanted to live in New York with her daughter Suri, and it looks like Tom is going to defer decision making to Katie on Suri’s day to day life according to the couple’s joint statement issued this morning, July 9th. It sounds like Katie got sole custody and Tom has liberal visitation. If it was joint the statement would have said ‘sharing’ custody,” explains celebrity divorce attorney Vikki Ziegler, exclusively to Hollywoodlife.com.

Here’s the very revealing statement which the former couple, released. “We are committed to working together as parents to accomplish what is in our daughter Suri’s best interests. We want to keep matters affecting our family private and express our respect for each other’s commitment to each of our respective beliefs and support each other’s roles as parents,” said the statement released to Hollywoodlife.com from Holmes and Cruise’s reps, Nanci Ryder and Amanda Lundberg respectively.

“This is a very interesting statement… not a normal statement. People don’t say things about their belief statements,” says Ziegler. “Tom’s camp wants to make sure that Katie is still respecting Scientology even if they aren’t raising Suri under that premise.”

So, it appears that Katie didn’t just get custody at Suri, but that she will NOT have to raise her as a Scientologist, unlike Tom’s two older children, Isabella, 19, and Connor, 17. That’s a HUGE win!

“Katie put the pressure on Tom to come to the table quickly so she didn’t have to disclose things about Scientology and their marriage,” believes divorce attorney Ziegler.

“My gut is saying Katie wanted Suri and likely got sole custody or most of the decision making. Tom might have sweetened the deal to make sure that the divorce remained private and not for public,” says Ziegler.

Of course, no one will likely ever know the terms of Katie and Tom’s settlement except for their immediate family, lawyers and oh yes, maybe the top brass in the Scientology organzation. But we bet Katie is going to be sleeping well tonight for the first time in years.

R92 There have been no photos of Cruise with Suri in over 5 years. It is likely that he has shunned Suri, who is now considered a "suppressive person" by his cult. Holmes has full custody as Cruise wants nothing to do with suppressives.

Holmes got $30 million from Cruise and it is likely she signed an agreement to never discuss their relationship in order to get the money.

It'll be satisfying if it turns out Katie made a deal with the devil and then diabolically got out of the deal.

R92... cruise hasn't seen her in over 8 years! and how do we know this as truth? not 1 single photo or video by ANYONE of not only of them together, but of cruise arriving or leaving anywhere near where suri was/would be.. not a single statement by holmes stating that tom does see suri, if only for suri's well being....

cruise didn't even FIGHT for not only full custody but not even HALF custody, he got "generous" visitation rights, but has never used them! he had no problem parading suri around on film sets and everywhere while he was married, so the whole excuse of trying to protect her privacy and he does see her is b.s. ... his other 2 kids still in the cult were raised by him and he still sees them, but yet won't see his alleged flesh and blood child for years even though she was a child and still is and did nothing wrong? 1 word: scientology!.... shocking and amazing because cruise's father was allegedly a dead beat father who cruise himself never saw for years until right before his father died when cruise was only 21 and now he turns around and is a dead beat father himself and his reasons are? "my ex wife left my ass and hated my religion, so i'm going to punish her and our daughter for my "religion's" sake? that is fucked up and both mentally ill and evil!..

one wonders isn't cruise PETRIFIED that when Suri hits 18 she can shout to the world about him and him being a dead beat to her? a tell all interview on her part?..

[quote] Holmes got $30 million from Cruise and it is likely she signed an agreement to never discuss their relationship in order to get the money.

How in the hell did Katie ever outsmart and beat the Church of Scientology, AND manage to win a $30 million payday from Tom Cruise??

Either the COS is slipping, or Katie Holmes is the smartest woman in the world.

Most ex-Scienos barely even manage to escape the COS with their lives.

I think Katie has as much dirt on COS as she does on Tom.

Well played, Miss Holmes.

helps that katie's daddy is a family attorney....

seriously one has to wonder when one side, one party has seemingly ALL the power (wealth, connections) how do they not only NOT get full custody but not even FIGHT for full custody, not even fight for HALF custody?.... and with cruise being a total control freak and thinking he can literally do anything, how does he not fight for his own daughter? SOME MAJOR SHIT katie must have on him and his "religion"!...

nothing else makes sense! i'm going to let that women take away my flesh and blood daughter but yet i fought to get full custody of my 2 adopted children?

Does Tom even live in the US anymore? I feel like he moved to England and we never see him anymore.

R101... he allegedly sold ALL of his homes, at least 4 of them (2 in l.a. and the 1 in colorado, plus a condo/apartment in nyc) in a very short time span a few years ago.. and now since all he does is work work work i'm guessing he stays in hotels non stop and leads a vagabond existence..

course he is having the cult using slave labor to build him a huge expensive penthouse in the mecca of the cult in clearwater, florida..

yes, quite normal for a religion/church/faith to build (even if said member is paying for the cost) a expensive penthouse for a member!

Katie Holmes launch a production company with Leah Remini. They can call it Cult of Sanity Productions.

Er, Katie Holmes *should* launch a production compny with Leah Remini.

I suspect Tom does have a relationship with Suri, it's just not allowed to be public. There is no way that he'd walk away from his only bio child.

He's as much of a victim of $cientology as everyone else in that cult. He's been brainwashed for 35 years and someone needs to help him.

Katie must have some primo dirt for Tom to fold like the proverbial house of cards. There is no other explanation for how she got herself and her daughter out of Tom's control-freak clutches.

Tom Cruise may have been a victim of Scientology decades ago. Now he is a ringleader of the organization and a primary recruiter and a figurehead. You don't get to run a cult and also claim victim status. It's one or the other, and at this point, he is a primary driver of it.

Still wearing some pink, in OP's picture. That's how I knew it was her years ago, not long after Holmes got out of the marriage. I was around West 23rd St in NYC, not far from where Katie and Suri were living (and apparently clams car were across the street, based on newspaper reports at the time). I was looking at some menu outside a restaurant when I noticed this little girl in pink. What made me take special notice was this big African American guy within about a foot or two or her and then this tall woman who looked something like Olive Oyl with them as well. Suri was a cute little kid; Katie Holmes was tall, but not particularly attractive in person. I left them alone, like most NYers do when they see celebs on the street.

R107... exactly! his "victimhood" lasted years ago! NO ONE is THAT brainwashed! if so, he shouldn't be walking the streets much less on a film set!... i mean seriously! simply? when was the last time CRUISE HIMSELF saw shelley miscavige? you know the wife of your bestest friend who hasn't been seen in public for over 12 years and counting! what whopper of a story could anyone a "victim" believe is the reasons why that would make any sense to anyone with half a brain and be justified! and this is just this 1 matter much less everything else! does cruise know that his bestest buddy's OWN FATHER, niece and brother in law left it and denounce it and him? does cruise know that the founder of this cult own family 9 out of 10 of them also have left it and denounced it and him years ago?... if he doesn't know he's too stupid to be walking the streets! if he does know but thinks nothing is wrong, then yes again he's too stupid to be walking the streets! so in lieu of him NOT being THAT STUPID, BEYOND STUPID AND CLUELESS, we can only surmise that he's "in on the scam"!...

seriously, what person would be so so brainwashed that they think getting their ass kissed 24/7 by their "religion" is not only normal, and proper and okay but even DESERVED! and the butt kissing started from the very beginning over 30 years ago! what did the brainwashing start the very moment he started in scientology?..

we all know he's not the smartest person without any higher education, a pathological stubborn narcissist, without a shred of critical thinking skills, but a "victim"... perhaps in the most vague roundabout way at best...

R105.. what kind of relationship could cruise have with suri if it's not in public? and why NOT in public?...

I wasn’t aware she had started walking. When did that happen?

If Tom had any kind of relationship with Suri, either he or Katie would have released a statement in response to all those tabloid headlines asserting that it's been years since he's seen his daughter. One statement explaining that their visits are kept low-key for security reasons would be enough to shut them up. That no such statement has been released says volumes.

In his mind, Katie is an SP and is raising their daughter as an SP. He had to choose between Suri and Scientology, and he chose Scientology. That tells you everything you need to know about him.

Tom also kidnapped Suri and went on a wild goose chase with the paparazzi in nyc. If I was Katie suri wouldn’t even be in the same state as Tom. The guy belongs in the looney bin.

None of us thought Katie Holmes had this in her. I know I didn't. Even, if her was an attorney, this still took serious balls.

I hope Tammy passes before either Nicole or Katie does, so NDA's are null and void. I would happily snap up those 2 books.

Was that the Walt Disney World vacation R113? He had shut down DW for a day to take Suri but i remember hearing about paparazzi chasing his car in NY to a private helicopter. I think that was the last time he saw her. I'll bet Katie was frantic and PISSED OFF at that little stunt. Was he even supposed to remove her from the state of NY?

R112.. that's what i said as well.. IF ONLY for the sake of suri's well being, holmes and/or others would have long ago stated to the media and thus the world that he does see her and regularly. Instead? total crickets silence!....

sad and unbelievable that he still has millions of fans around the world who are NOT in the cult who STILL STILL support him because a) they don't know he's a dead beat father AND the public face of a abusive and scam cult and b) if they know they don't care as long as little ole them are entertained by his movies and for 2 hours! and when called out on this they use deflection excuses of "it's none of my business, that's his personal life, it doesn't affect me so why should i care" and on and on...

cruise years ago in his sworn statement when he attempted to sue "in touch" magazine with their front cover story of how he had abandoned suri, admitted on the stand that at the time he HAD NOT seen her for 4 months (because he was just too busy filming, but yet he had no problem when he was married to katie having suri as a toddler on the set of valkyrie for instance!) and that he was very good with phone calls and computer screen visits! so he admitted he wasn't seeing her already for 4 months and that was YEARS AGO... and nothing, i repeat NOTHING calls into question anything has changed!

like i said, katie might be bound to keeping her mouth shut, but what is to prevent Suri when she hits 18 from saying anything?

Reese's son has a prominent chin but that's OK for a man and it's not as pointy as hers is.

Suri will keep quiet as it is certain the divorce payout includes Cruise paying for her college (up to $75,000/year) and feeding, clothing and housing her until 21 or even longer.

If Suri wants any more of her Daddy's money, she will be on her best behavior. She will wait until Cruise croaks before penning a tell-all.

R4 I disagree. She's 14, which is an ugly age for most anyone, and she's still cute. Give her two years and she'll be really beautiful.

R100 I don't think Kidman wanted the adopted kids. That's what I suspect it came down to. Yeah, I know about crazy scienos and their brainwashing techniques but I've always suspected that Kidman was someone who wanted bio kids, not adopted. Kidman was an A lister who was friends with Rupert Murdoch. If she had fought for even partial custody she likely would have won both legally and in terms of public sympathy. I believe Kidman went along with the adoption because Tom Cruise wanted it but she was the type who never would have taken in an non blood related kid normally. She doesn't even acknowledge them in interviews. Pretty cold.

[quote] She doesn't even acknowledge them in interviews. Pretty cold.

She refuses to talk about them. There's a difference. Why make something that seems to be very painful to her tabloid fodder? When she did speak about them after the divorce she said she wanted them to move with her to Australia or at least split time with her in Australia. Their daughter was also working with her for a while. But you can't force someone to have a relationship with you and if the kids took Tom's side for whatever reason, the only thing Kidman can do is be there when they do come around. But for all we know she still has a relationship with them. The only reason I don't think they do is because when their son Conner would post old pictures he would only post ones of him, his sister and Cruise.

R121 It wasn't just a thing of not discussing their personal lives, which would be understandable. Kidman was at one point regularly referring to herself as being a mother of 2. It's all speculation of course but I suspect it's a bit more complicated then both children rejecting her because of the cult.

Heath Ledger's daughter with Michelle Williams will be 15 this year.

Hunny, Deacon Phillippe Ryan andReese Witherspoon's son is a gorgeous little honey. I cannot wait until he is like 20.

^ gross old perv

I'm not really on old perv.....

Did Katie stop putting bows in her hair?

While I appreciate that Suri isn’t dressed like a Kardashian prostitot, Katie erred in the other direction. I think she’s infantilizing her.

[quote] While I appreciate that Suri isn’t dressed like a Kardashian prostitot, Katie erred in the other direction. I think she’s infantilizing her.

Suri will probably turn out to be a wild slut, rebelling against her mother.

[quote]Absolutely a combo of both. Not to be unkind: not necessarily the best combo of both.

Tom Cruise's features don't really work on female faces. This is his sister Marian.

Wow, R129.

She looks like Tom in drag.

She looks like a pre-cosmetic surgery Tom in drag.

r131 DING DING DING!

[quote] Katie Holmes and Her Daughter Suri Cruise "Saved Each Other" After Moving Away From Tom Cruise

Uh, in case those post-divorce Nicole Kidman pics didn't make it obvious, being married to Tom Cruise is extremely complicated and no easy feat. Katie Holmes also knows the deal, which is why she divorced him in 2012 after six years of marriage in part because of his involvement with the Church of Scientology. Since she moved across the country and settled in New York City, Katie and their 14-year-old daughter, Suri Cruise, have become incredibly close.

According to new reports from Us Weekly, “You’d struggle to find a mom-daughter duo who are more in sync with each other. They’re a real team—their connection is a beautiful thing to witness.” Katie and Suri are often seen exploring the city together, and Katie occasionally gives a glimpse into their lives on her Instagram. Just the other day, Katie posted pictures of how they're spending Suri's birthday while in quarantine, and they're definitely making the most of their time inside.

Us' source also added that Katie is able to lean on Suri and vice versa. “If Katie’s feeling stressed or down, Suri’s very compassionate and loving," they shared. "Katie feels like her daughter really is her little angel…It’s no exaggeration to say that Suri and Katie have saved each other. They really are wonderful together.”

The magazine previously reported that Tom has no relationship with Suri because of his religious beliefs. In 2017, a source said, "Tom hasn't seen or even called Suri in about three years." Since Suri's relationship with her father is virtually nonexistent, it's amazing to hear that she and Katie are so close.

It's sad he's so fucked up because I'm watching Top Gun and he was so insanely hot.

What's Tom Cruise's hot black son up 2. The one he claimed to have adopted but looks just like him.

SHOCKING TO ME that as one of the world's biggest movie stars, the fact that HE IS A DEAD BEAT FATHER isn't screamed constantly by the media and on magazine covers! he hasn't seen his own daughter in nearly 8 years!!!!!!!! and just as shocking is that millions either don't know this truth or don't care!.... never mind, the whole scientology insanity and evil!

cruise's adopted son CONNOR last time i checked was pretty much not doing anything except for the occasional D.J. gigs, however, his ass is already kissed by scientology.. he gets 2nd hand ass kissing and like father, like son, thinks nothing is wrong, improper, unethical about this ass kissing from a "religion" of all things..so yes, he's screwed up and morally corrupt just like his dad!..

It’s ironic that Katie rescued her from the cult, only to imprison Suri with emotional incest.

Mark my words, they’re another Big and Little Edie.

[quote] SHOCKING TO ME that as one of the world's biggest movie stars, the fact that HE IS A DEAD BEAT FATHER

See, that's the mystery.

I don't think that he is a deadbeat dad, or the media WOULD be repeating it.

I think that Katie signed an NDA, as well as receiving a substantial payment to take care of Suri for the rest of her life, AND to keep her mouth shut.

That hush money wasn't just for Katie. It was for Suri, too.

Katie is very careful about saying anything in public about Tom Cruise. She doesn't give interviews and does just enough publicly documented stuff with Suri to let the world know she is taking good care and is a good mother, and they're close. Tom is paying her a lot and she's still paranoid about his Scientology people.

I think every year Suri gets older Katie gets more relieved. There was a time when she had real fear of Tom taking legal steps, or even of kidnapping Suri. She fought him in smart ways. Tom Cruise is terrified of bad publicity especially connected to Scientology. His career took a hit from it back when they divorced and so many people were digging around about him and Miscavage. Now he makes movies, and stays as private as possible.

And Katie tries to be low key as per their arrangement. Neither Nicole or Katie ever publicly disparage him. I feel bad because he made so many movies I enjoyed and I did like him until all this extreme nutsy shit came out. He is financially entangled with Scientology and even if he wanted to, he could never walk away.

R138... well he's a different kind of dead beat, perhaps that is not the right definition of what he is... meaning, he IS giving katie money for suri's well being, but NOTHING MORE, is COMPLETELY absent from her life, hasn't seen her in nearly 8 years and counting, to me that is BEYOND evil!... the press SHOULD be reporting that non stop as he is still one of the world's most famous people and whose entire life and career and wealth is dependent on us the public.

Cruise pays for everything Suri could need or want. He had to probably set up a trust for her as part of the settlement. So he is not really a "dead beat dad". Many rich men do this - Linda Evangelista's baby daddy, Bernard Arnault, paid a huge settlement to her and her daughter, but never sees the kid.

R141 here - meant François-Henri Pinault , not Arnault.

R141, then what would you call it when someone ABANDONS their daughter? simply abandonment? never mind, because of his "religion"...

thus? he's both evil and insane. and should be boycotted.

With some men, it's best if they don't see their child/children. If they were involved in the kids' lives, things would be very fucked up. Sometimes being an absent father is the best thing that could happen to the kids.

R144, true, when the father is THAT fucked up.. however, that doesn't excuse it nor should the public excuse it and continue supporting him!....

i can't imagine what katie has had to tell Suri every day of her life, why is in her life and now nothing ever and perhaps ever again?!..

as i posted before, i wonder if cruise is TERRIFIED when ole Suri hits 18 and she is a legal adult and can spew to the world all about her missing father!....

strange too, how cruise felt abandoned by his own father and yet he turns around and does it himself?

Sadly, she has Tom’s honker.

Suri is immune to Scientology. If she goes into it, it'll be with her eyes wide open knowing beyond doubt it's all bullshit, and she'd only be taking advantage of THEM if they kiss HER ass. She'll NEVER be an actual True Believer™.

She has, by now, UNQUESTIONABLY heard "the Xenu story" several dozen times. She might not be convinced it's actual church doctrine... but if she ever did start believing in scientology, I don't think it would take much to confirm the stories she thought were bullshit are actual doctrine & send her storming out the door. And honestly, I don't think Scientology itself would dare to RISK that by even ALLOWING her to join. She's just too much of a potential high-profile loose canon (think: Leah Rimini, squared).

Hunny Katie din't want that man anywhere near Suri with his voodoo bullshit. So don't be too hard on Tommy. Katie had somethin to say.

Wasn't Tom a scientologist for a decade before he got with Katie? It was known he was a member and that it was a cult. Why get involved with him? Why expect he would leave, especially since he didn't leave for Nicole? Why get knocked up out of the gate, knowing he's in a cult? If the pregnancy was unplanned, why not just continue to date him and check for crazy? Why proceed to marry him and not have your father, who is a lawyer, put a prenup in place, detailing some basic ground rules? Dad jailbreaking her out of the marriage, when he could have put rules in place prior, watched to make sure they were followed, is just hard to figure out. None of this makes sense; while preggers, she had him over a barrel and should have used it and the publicity, to carve out a solid pre and post nup.

R149... all true, katie was a idiot for hooking up with him in the first place, i guess, she truly didn't know about scientology and didn't believe the stories, he swept her off her feet, love bombed her 24/7 to where she was overwhelmed, he at first seem charming and so loving (like all abusers), and she did have a crush on him since she was a young girl and so on and so on, i guess all combined to put her where she was....

she's beyond lucky her father was a family lawyer that's for sure!... who knows maybe she also stupidly thought she could change him, like so so many women think with their man..

R149, exactly. I call bullshit on most of it. Katie’s story of always having a crush on Tom was about as believable as Rosie O’Donnell’s.

And if she and her father were so goddamn smart, she wouldn’t have gotten in such a pickle. All they had to do was look at his previous marriages to know that there was plenty fishy going on. It was a role she wanted and didn’t heed the warnings. She probably saw Academy Awards and shit.

Yeah, I’m glad Suri isn’t being raised in that cult, but I suspect it’s out of the frying pan into the fire.

Yeah, I think Katie took the Tom gig because she saw what it did for Nicole Kidman's profile.

She didn't realize that without Pat Kingsley to reel him in, Tom was going to totally go off the rails. Also, Katie never had Nicole's presence onscreen.

Once the contract was up and she could GTFO, she out the fuck she got.

Tom's batshit Scientology stuff was well-known for years before Katie hooked up with him. His crazy devotion to that cult was common knowledge. She had to have known, I agree she thought she would get the same career Nicole Kidman had. But Kidman had talent and charisma. Holmes had neither. She was godawful in Batman Begins.

R153 one would think, however even now in 2020, there are people in hollywood who act like they KNOW NOTHING about scientology, or think it's all made up or with those who have worked with cruise a) he never brings it up a work b) he's so professional and so nice to everyone including little ole me (insert actors like blunt, cavill, basset, etc.) and that's all that matters to little ole me and the crew and c) that his personal life, none of my business.....

so one could surmise that holmes was in the i didn't truly know or didn't believe the stories camp.

I call bullshit, r154. She knew.

^also, what the hell kind of lawyer allows his daughter to marry a man he hasn't checked out? You at least do a kick some rocks, shake some trees check, before you give your blessings. Just saying.

Katie married Tom with dollar signs and Oscar statuettes in her eyes. Once she got in and saw the real lay of the land, she just counted down the days until the contract was up. She also did passive-aggressive stuff like going out looking like shit. When she could leave, she did.

That makes her sound like a cynical gold-digger, but Tom was the one auditioning wives, so I think they were pretty well-matched in terms of self-interest.

Scarlett Johansohn had a creepy story about being "auditioned" as Tom's new wife as Scifi headquarters in LA. She GTFO of there fast.

Yes but SJ's prospects were much better than Holmes and she didn't need Crazy Cruise.

She's a whore. I bet she has taken thousands of cocks already for roles.

whatever the entire truth is on both cruise and katie's part the fact remains he still has a hollywood career being the public face of a evil abusive scam cult and who has abandoned his daughter for 8 years and counting! .. and why? because it's all about money, as long as he still makes 1 dollar profit, hollywood will stand behind him ( i mean look at the fawning of his co-stars about him! shame on them! i mean one could see a lowly extra or bit player with 2 lines being desperate for work, but what about his co-stars who have money and work who COULD work anywhere else, but choose not to for their selfish attention career prospects), and millions of fans from around the world who don't know anything about the REAL cruise or don't care even if told!...

R161, the last few posts makes the point that all those things were present when Katie met, got preggers by and eventually married the nutter. In other words, don't put your ass on the table, then act suprised when someone fucks it. Adults pay a price for their poor judgment; unfortunately, children pay the same price, when their parents make poor judgment calls. It works the same in Hollywood as in the real world, albeit with less money. You marry or allow yourself to be impregnated by the town loon, things are going to be less than ideal, in more ways than one. At least she corrected, which is ultimately good for the child, but not going there would have been the choice I would have expected from someone with sensible parents and a solid background. She doesn't get a pass and doesn't get a woe is me, I'm a single mom narrative, without any questions, regarding her poor judgment.