Did they have to remove them to eat? Seems it would be quite a mess otherwise.
I’m guessing they removed them when they ate ass. Can’t get all up in there with that damn thing on.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | April 18, 2020 4:48 AM |
"Ruffs were somewhat impractical: they restricted movement considerably, and those who wore wide ruffs often had to eat with special long utensils so that they could reach their mouths. Some European governments tried to pass laws to restrict their size. Queen Elizabeth I of England, who ruled from 1558 to 1603 and who loved to wear ruffs herself, passed a law in 1580 that limited the size of ruffs worn by people outside her court. She even posted guards at the gates of the city of London in England to monitor the size of ruffs. Like most laws limiting clothing, called sumptuary laws, this law did not have much effect."
by Anonymous | reply 2 | April 18, 2020 4:50 AM |
[quote]Queen Elizabeth I of England, who ruled from 1558 to 1603 and who loved to wear ruffs herself, passed a law in 1580 that limited the size of ruffs worn by people outside her court.
That is just what Mrs Slocombe did to Miss Brahms only it was ruffles.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | April 18, 2020 4:52 AM |
Ruffs were signs of status, and they became bigger and more elaborate to showcase one's wealth.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | April 18, 2020 4:56 AM |
Mine woman doth proscribeth such a ruff to preventeth me from suckage of nubile male specimens ....
It dost not work!
by Anonymous | reply 5 | April 18, 2020 5:17 AM |
^^^ prescribeth
by Anonymous | reply 6 | April 18, 2020 5:18 AM |
Queen Elizabeth was no fool, she had ruffs that looked faboo, but which didn't interfere with eating and quaffing!
by Anonymous | reply 7 | April 18, 2020 5:26 AM |
In some paintings they can create a strange "your head on a plate" effect.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | April 18, 2020 5:29 AM |
I have a ruff. Some might call it a neck pouch, but I call it a ruff!
by Anonymous | reply 9 | April 18, 2020 5:34 AM |
Beatrice & Eugenie should revive this crazy look-- ruffs could be the new fascinators at royal weddings and such.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | April 18, 2020 5:37 AM |
R8, there were a lot of beheadings back then, so that's rather appropriate.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | April 18, 2020 5:46 AM |
Ruffles have ridges.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | April 18, 2020 5:58 AM |
Bring the ruffs back! and the conical plague masks!
I would love to see that tomorrow - particularly the conical plague mask. That would provide me with some much needed uplift.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | April 18, 2020 6:04 AM |
Tons of plague doctor masks on ebay, R14.
I will if you will...
by Anonymous | reply 16 | April 18, 2020 6:09 AM |
R16 - you're AMAZING! Thanks for the link.
This would be Sooooooo MUCH FUN! - or maybe the rest of the American dumbfuck public would think I'm from Spy magazine. Probably the latter.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | April 18, 2020 6:26 AM |
I am a physician and I think I will get. plague mask, to bring smiles to my frightened patients as we teleconference.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | April 18, 2020 6:35 AM |
r18, have you given any thought as to which fragrance you'll be using?
by Anonymous | reply 19 | April 18, 2020 6:41 AM |
Sorry to barge in. Thought someone said Rowlf.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | April 18, 2020 6:42 AM |
Yeah, well, R18, I'm a nurse who treats COVID patients, and I'm thinking of getting one for shits and giggles and mordant humor.
I'd wear one while going into work, if I thought any of my co-workers would get it.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | April 18, 2020 7:04 AM |
So, when it came to Ruffs, size mattered.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | April 18, 2020 7:05 AM |
Always hated the look of them
by Anonymous | reply 23 | April 18, 2020 7:18 AM |
They kept the fleas off of their heads. Can't have your austerity ruined by fleas in your hair.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | April 18, 2020 10:46 AM |
Could a 6 ft. ruff be the fashionable social distancing accessory that we can use as an alternative to those dreary masks?
by Anonymous | reply 25 | April 18, 2020 2:38 PM |
Ruffs started out as modest ruffles lining the collars and cuffs of a chemise worn under a doublet, like what this handsome 16th century tailor is wearing.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | April 18, 2020 4:12 PM |
Who's the cute guy in R27's pic?
by Anonymous | reply 29 | April 18, 2020 5:13 PM |
R29, he was a "The Tailor" ("Il Tagliapanni"), painted by the talented portraitist Giovanni Battista Moroni. Moroni was not very well known in his time, except in his native Bergamo, where he painted the local nobility and artisans, many of whose names are lost through time.
A nobleman dressed in bright hues:
by Anonymous | reply 30 | April 18, 2020 7:17 PM |
Hot Renaissance ruff trade?
by Anonymous | reply 31 | April 18, 2020 7:50 PM |
[quote] or maybe the rest of the American dumbfuck public would think I'm from Spy magazine. Probably the latter.
Not Spy Magazine, Mad Magazine. (“Spy vs. Spy.”)
by Anonymous | reply 32 | April 18, 2020 7:58 PM |
The ruffs were stiffened with a sort of starch that would wilt if a drop of water ever hit it, so for noblemen wearing huge ruffs, going outside was perilous! Especially anywhere in the British Isles! Plus, if rain hit the expensive brightly colored gowns or doublets of the era, the dye would probably run.
So what was the etiquette of huge impractical ruffs? Were the reserved for grand formal occasions at court or in one's own palace, where there was no risk of rain and only one meal to be skipped? Were smaller, more practical ruffs (see link) worn for everyday use? Or was there a time when fashion got out of control and everyone who was anyone was eating with two-foot-long spoons and refusing to go outside?
by Anonymous | reply 33 | April 18, 2020 9:10 PM |
Well someone decided to wear ALL the family ruffs for her portrait sitting!
Look, they don't match.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | April 19, 2020 2:00 AM |
R35, See R4.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | April 19, 2020 3:21 AM |
Were they meant to hide the telltale signs of scrofula? Or were they just to keep the neck warm?
by Anonymous | reply 37 | April 19, 2020 3:26 AM |
L to R: closed ruff; Medici collar; open ruff; falling ruff / falling band
by Anonymous | reply 38 | April 19, 2020 3:32 AM |
No neck monsters!
by Anonymous | reply 39 | April 19, 2020 3:35 AM |
The collars were the first generation air filters.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | April 19, 2020 3:35 AM |
[quote] No neck monsters!
How dare you!
by Anonymous | reply 41 | April 19, 2020 3:42 AM |
The large, heavily starched standing ruffs came to be called cartwheel ruffs or millstone collars. They could either be worn open or closed. Venetian women heavily favored open ruffs, made of lace rather than the linen, and this Venetian lace came to be highly prized throughout Europe. Marie de' Medici introduced the fan-shaped, open, standing ruff made of Venetian lace into France, which came to be known as the Medici collar.
The cartwheel ruffs fell out of fashion around the early 17th century, supposedly because Louis XIII (France) and Charles I (England) preferred to wear their hair long, thus making standing ruffs an obstacle to presentable hair. Falling ruffs or falling bands became the fashion of the day.
Louis XIII wearing a falling ruff:
by Anonymous | reply 42 | April 19, 2020 4:23 AM |
Interesting, R30. That artist certainly had a type he liked.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | April 19, 2020 5:18 PM |
But however on earth did they wear plastic bibs for all-you-can-eat ribfest with them collars?
by Anonymous | reply 45 | April 19, 2020 5:39 PM |