She slept her way out the slums and into the mansion

And then she ate it.

She slept through an entire family of men!

Imagine that! How does one do that?

I can't imagine, Brooke.

On the otherwise very sweet YT chat with Kim Zinmer and her som she said she wants to do a production of Sweet Bird of Youth with him playing Princess whatsername and him as Chance Wayne. She needs to re-read that play.

[quote]She slept through an entire family of men! Imagine that! How does one do that?

Maybe she has some kind of mental disorder. Bi-polar maybe?

Kim really should have had a better career in primetime. She made great guest appearances on DW and Seinfeld. She is very versatile, is the best crier ever and can do comedy with the best of them.

Out of the slums and into SPACE!

She won't do anything but dinner theater unless she loses 30-40 pounds and gets a few tucks.

Sorry. I love her but she's too big for TV anything.

R8 Fuck that I'd rather see her than Chrissy Metz.

I'm talking when she left GL initially.

I was always surprised that someone as youth-obsessed as ZImmer let herself go the way she did. The storylines with the younger guys kept coming and there she was neither young nor really what I would consider a desirable target for that age demographic that they continued to pair her with.

She was looking bad when she went to OLTL, after GL ended. She is ten years younger than Erika Slezak and Robin Strasser, but they looked ten years younger than her.

It was the extra weight that made her look so much older than Slestack and Strasser.

R13 It wasn't just the weight, it was the lines on her face.

I thought OP was talking about this whore.

She has a ton of sun damage from tanning in order to hide acne scars from when she was young. She was mercilessly teased about this in her earlier years on the show, including by Robert Newman, which didn't help her self esteem.

John Bolger went to my gym in the 80s. Joy of Movement on Lafayette St. What a body he had and at that time men walked around nude in the locker room . And he was nice. I miss those days. Now, younger men are so inhibited about being naked in front of other men. So stupid.

Grant (and his pendulous dong), Beth Chamberlain, Michael O’Leary, Tina Sloan and Yvonne Kopacz Wright will be on with Alan on the 15th at 3 pm.

I'd love to see Michael O'Leary's feet

R17 did you see John Bolger's bulger?

R18

I just love that they are doing these reunions.

It's all about convenience. If they can sit in their homes, shoot the shit with some old colleagues, and not get asked for hugs by people they don't know, why not? I just wish the moderator would do a better job of making it all about GL and not ask questions like 'so, what's everyone watching on tv right now?'

The GL group chat was great with Garrett, Zimmer, Newman, Verdorn and Keifer.

The most recent ATWT was not. Who knew Colleen Zenk was so aloof?

I really don’t need to know what props, furniture and wardobe they ended up getting from the set.

Suck it R24 Rosebud!

Emma’s China is mine!

Colleen has been through hell in the last 5 years. I doubt she's "aloof" - more wounded.

She and Ellen have definitely aged, though!

r25 = Post of the Month

Thanks, R25

this has been one shitty month so, I'll take your compliment!

r28, "Who Took What?" has been my single favorite part of these broadcasts, and knowing that that slut Carly Tenney ended up with Emma's china is just the pinnacle of Oakdale perfection. I'm SO glad to know someone else liked it as much as I did.

Eat shit, r24. Off a paper plate.

Bext week's GL reunion will be Laura Wright, Cynthis Watros, Emme Rylan, Daniel Cosgrove and Laura's Wright's boy toy.

R30 If they hadn't thrown Cosgrove in there, it would be all current GH people.

The host asking what they were watching allowed them to mention that Tom Pelphrey is on the third season of Ozark and is getting great reviews.

Kim says he was playing Jonathan the first couple of episodes before transitioning to something else.

I think Pelphrey's talented, but he's kinda ALWAYS playing the same character.

R33

Did you see him in Banshee? That was a departure. Really good series if you haven't seen it. I think he was on the last 2 years.

He bulked up so much for that role it was startling. His arms & torso were huge & ripped. Great ass too.

ooh, will have to check him out.

Happy 35th anniversary to Dr. Bob Hughes and Ms. Kim Sullivan!

Two Oscar winners in that last bit.

I always forget about Marisa. Sorry, gurl!

Which GL character would:

Love the quarantine?

Break the quarantine first?

Get pregnant during the quarantine?

Murder someone during the quarantine?

Die from COVID-19?

Most likely to be presumed dead from COVID-19 only to return later leading to at least one person fainting?

If CBS and P&G had their way, a Bauer would certainly be the one to die.

Love the quarantine? Buzz

Break the quarantine first? Alan

Get pregnant during the quarantine? Lizzie

Murder someone during the quarantine? Jonathan

Die from COVID-19? Reva (she gets around). 7th Emmy!

Most likely to be presumed dead from COVID-19 only to return later leading to at least one person fainting? Beth. She's the Queen of being presumed dead and coming back. Who would faint? Viewers. She'd come back played by Judi Evans.

I'll do the ATWT version:

Love the quarantine? Seth Snyder, happily typing away on Emma's old Smith CORONA.

Break the quarantine first? Andrew Dixon, desperately searching for booze.

Get pregnant during the quarantine? Margo Hughes, but not by her husband.

Murder someone during the quarantine? Emily Stewart, while wearing a long fur coat.

Die from COVID-19? Nancy Hughes, with stoic acceptance.

Most likely to be presumed dead from COVID-19 only to return later leading to at least one person fainting? Well, we all know who that would be! "Hello, Barbara..."

[quote]Break the quarantine first? Andrew Dixon, desperately searching for booze.

Andy is who I first thought of, too, LMS, for that exact same reason. I hope he isn't paying for it with his 20-year AA chip.

R38 Honestly, Reva could be the answer to all those questions.

Love the quarantine? Reva, if she is with Josh. Phillip/Beth if they are with each other.

Break the quarantine first? Lizzie. She can't sit still.

Get pregnant during the quarantine? Lizzie. See above.

Murder someone during the quarantine? Anybody quarantined with Alan.

Die from COVID-19? Nurse Lillian,sadly.

Most likely to be presumed dead from COVID-19 only to return later leading to at least one person fainting? Lillian. Time to pay back Beth for all those presumed dead times.

Tina Sloan has been added to this week's reunion.

Looking forward to where she will be linked from because she’s married to a millionaire.

R46

She has an apartment overlooking Central Park but a lot of the wealthy de-camped to their Hamptons' homes.

I follow her on Facebook and she keeps posting these videos that are basically zoomed into her eyeballs. If she does that same shtick on Wednesday there won't be any background visible.

Tina! has a new book, Chasing Cleopatra.

Hoe nice she’s got a hobby.

ATWT will have another reunion this Friday with the younger set.

Luke, Jake, Maddie, Aaron, Allison

Maddie I don't remember. You mean Jake Silberschlong, right, r51? Weren't there five Allisons?

I forget sometimes the talent GL had in its younger cast on the show all at one time in the early 00's- Brittany Snow, Jesse Lee Soffer, Tammy Blanchard, Hayden Panettiere, Paul Wesley , Laura Bell Bundy to name a few. That is quite an impressive bunch.

Tammy Blanchard should have a bigger career. I think at some point she will have a role where she will win another Emmy or Oscar. She already has a Primetime Emmy and two Tony nominations for lead actress. She was great on GL. Her first appearance on the show was with Taye Diggs.

R52

Yes. I should've typed Noah instead of Jake

How can you not remember Maddie? She was Henry's sister. The actress' name is Alexandra Chando.

The show was so bad, r55, I gave up on it in 1995. I only watched the gay scenes after that.

Isn't Tina Sloan a Trumpster?

R57 No way.

Soffer was on ATWT, not GL.

R59 Soffer was first on GL as Max Nickerson. GL was his TV debut.

Soffer was paired with Brittany Snow on GL. Then Nickerson left ( I think to finish school) and Paul Wesley was cast as Max.

I stand corrected.

I'll drink to that!

(belch)

I was a teenage gayling when Jesse Soffer and Paul Wesley were on GL. Both were crushes. I was so mad when Jesse left GL to finish his school work but when Paul was cast as a replacement, I didn't mind. Jesse grew into one of the finest men.

Don't forget the GL chat starting in 30 mins.

"Grant, is it true that if you pull your cock out, its length and girth will crack the porcelain below?"

Beth C just worked with Frank Grillo in Billions. Said he was doing great.

(((gasp)))

R58, going by the reunion I think you’re wrong. I definitely think Tina is a Trumpster. And also probably one of those 1 per center Floridians who helped get that disgusting governor into office.

R69 She said nothing in the reunion to suggest that. Nothing.

Tina is not a Trumpster.

She is very pro-military b/c her son was in it for years and she's a fiscal conservative, but she's very liberal in other ways. She is NOT a fan of Trump at ALL.

Mikey looks like he has lost a little weight. Good for him.

Beth Chamberlain looks great. Wow. Ageless.

I had no idea she played a Beth look alike in 1986 when Beth went missing. Tina reminded her that was her first day. It was filmed on location at a lake. I wonder if it is on youtube.

I take it the guy who's throwing these zooms together worked for CBS, not P&G.

R74 Alan worked for P&G.

But he came on after AW ended so it was only for the two CBS shows I think.

You know Grant wanted to spill some major tea. Beth, too. Yvonna did say the GL cast was the absolute best and definitely alluded to Days being not so. She tried not to say it but then just blurted it out. Grant likewise said the cast had no ego.

R67

I had no idea Grillo was going to be on Billions. I love that show.

Isn't Mikey a deplorable?

R78 I don't see that but I could be wrong. Grant sure isn't.

The GL reunions continue. Next Friday the guests will be:

Olivia, Natalia, Rafe, Franck, Ava

I am looking forward to the one (tomorrow) including Cynthia Watros but I do NOT want to hear anything about GH.

R81 Considering four out of the five people on tomorrow are currently on GH, I'm afraid you will hear some.

I so shipped Dan and Jessie back in the day.

R82 Yes, I understand but they are on a GL chat. I'm sure they have to promote their show but I hope it is minimal. I've never watched GH and never will.

Grant was so fucking modest about the whole Speedo thing. he tried to deflect and said all the guys had their share of speedo time and O'Leary's like not this fate whale.

Grant seems really polite and restrained while still sharing some great stories.

He and Scott Bryce (Craig, ATWT) were the two best actors on soaps, IMHO.

[quote] Grant was so fucking modest about the whole Speedo thing

Oh....I guess I have to watch this whole thing now!

Did Grant ever lose his gorgeous body even a little over 25 years on GL?

there's this huge portrait of Grant in his background and it looks like something from the show; but he says it's actually a real life wedding gift not related to GL.

when it starts he's got horrible lighting and it looks like something out of Dark Shadows, I was thinking and then Beth says 'Grant looks like Dark Shadows'

He'd be great as Roger in a revival.

A reset could work- they could have all the characters revert back to being younger. They could cast a Bert. Have an alternate universe GL. The previous actors could play different character like Grant playing Roger- great idea!

I wanted them to create a show where most of the same people are in it, but playing similar characters/roles.

So no one has to fuck with P&G for rights, etc.

I wish they would have Shipp on one of these reunion shows.

One thing I learned from the GL reunions is that Charita Bauer’s first name was pronounced “Sharita.”

Grant seems like such a nice guy. I was tempted to ask on the screen chat about his walking into the studio, stopped by Bernau and my ex and said “I’ll be catching some shut eye in my dressing room for a bit. Last night at The Anvil really did me in.”

I loved it that his dressing room had a sign above it which read Chez Philippe.

I would love them to have some of the old actors on like Judi Evans, Sherry Stringfield (she'd do it I think), Michelle Forbes (I can dream), JW Shipp......The possibilities are endless and with this shutdown, are more likely.

[quote] O'Leary's like not this fate whale.

Oh, dear

That was a very sweet exchange between Grant and Michael, though. I want to know more what they got up to on that all expenses paid trip to Italy in 1988.

[quote]stopped by Bernau and my ex and said “I’ll be catching some shut eye in my dressing room for a bit. Last night at The Anvil really did me in.”

Who was your ex, r92?

Brian Murray, R96. He played some antiquities guy in Tanquir (which everyone pronounced as Tan-queer).He died in 2018.

People go on and on about the Phillip / Rick relationship.

I liked the Phillip / Alan Michael dynamic; especially when Carl T. Evans played the part.

It evolved from AM feeling he was in competition with Phillip for ALan's love and then one day AM said to Phillip, I never realized what it must be like to be someone's sick obsession.

If I can be an unappreciative asshole I would like to thank this guy ALan Locher for doing these but I wish he did a better job. His questions are pretty lame. At least he lets people speak, though.

Yes, he could be a better moderator. I do appreciate he is doing this. Thank you, Alan!

Why not go for broke and try for Kevin Bacon? He just may do it. He is not shy speaking about his GL past. Frances Fisher?

I think Julianne Moore would do it, too. She’s always been appreciative of her days on ATWT.

If you have some time to kill, here's GL from April 17, 1992 (also a Friday).

Lots of fun characters/actors: Harley and Mallet, Nadine and Billy, Alexandra with A-M and Eleni, Vanessa and Fletcher (I think this was during that weird moment they were paired up, I'm probably one of the few people that didn't hate it). Sherry Stringfield is still around at Blake.

It's weird to me that this is now 28 years ago. Even after all this time, I still miss this era of the show. (Yes, Mary!)

I would love:

Judi Evans (not likely now since her son just passed away)

John Bolger

JW Shipp

Kevin Bacon

Frances Fisher/Vincent Irizarry/Victor Garber

James Earl Jones, Cicely Tyson, Billy Dee Williams

Melina Kanakaredes

Michelle Forbes

Nia Long

Sherry Stringfield

Tammy Blanchard/ Jesse Lee Sofer/ Paul Wesley/Patty D'Arbanville/Brittany Snow/Hayden Panettiere (I think she would do it)

That is just with some of the famous people.

R102

All you have to do is put up a video with the sublime La Bev and I'm all in.

Thank You!

Matt Bomer!

I'd love a reunion with the kids who were on the show - Rachel Miner, Bryan Buffington, the kid who played Ben with them, Kimberly Brown, Ashley Peldon. It would be fun to hear their views on the older actors.

I'd love to see a few of the early 80s folks like Lisa Brown, Michael Tylo, etc.

As far as I know, Alan is doing this out of the kindness of his heart and to reach out to the people he worked with. And he was there in the last 10 years of both shows, so it's gonna mostly be those people who he knows.

Don Hastings, who looks terrific, was trying to think of Steve Basset's name when he talked about Kim, Bob, Frannie, and SETH going to Italy to find Sabrina.

Nobody else there could think of his name. They weren't there.

I go back to the Dobson era as a kid -- I just remember Jacquie Shultz (sp?) being on A LOT and Ellen's wrap around hair do to make her look older; I recall Kim's eyes always being half closed and Johnny Dixon looking confused -- I heard Larry did that when he was in a scene with someone he didn't want to work with; he'd just look confused.

For me, the best era of the show was late 1985 when Doug came on and up until 1990 when Bob and Susan's fling came to light.

r108

really? I owuld love to see scenes with Kim's eyes always being half closed and Johnny Dixon looking confused with someone he didn't want to work with;

R109, go to 13:36; eyes are closed.

I just remember her doing it a lot.

don't get me wrong, I really like Kathy Hays; Kim was one of the last characters created by Irna Phillips and Kathy Hays was robbed of Emmy noms for her work in 1985, 1986, and 1990.

Frankly, with all due respect to Zimmer, I'd have made it a tie between Hubbard and Hayes in 1987 for their work in 1986.

and same scene 18:10, eyes look semi-closed.

r110

gotcha... I do remember her doing that now... my grandpa did the same thing but he wasn't an actor

I wish when the soaps run out of new episodes (mid-May?), they could start ATWT over beginning with D. Marland's first episode. But the tapes don't exist anymore, do they?

Tapes do exist, from around 1979 on.

Then let's put them on.

Alan’s having on Jon Lindstrom, Michael Knight and Cady McClain next Friday so hoping he’ll do one with AW actors down the line. Anna Banana would be great.

[quote]Anna Banana would be great.

And Lady Eyes-a-Buggin'.

R117 YES!

I can see Alan asking Anna Banana where her hubby James Cromwell is and she’d say “Oh, I think he’s out back. Or maybe he’s somewhere getting arrested.”

Reva has nothing on the real Kim Zimmer in terms of objectionable scandalousness. Same could easily be said of Grant Aleksander.

I'd love to see Alan have on Philece Sampler, Maeve Kinkead, and Anna Stuart on.

Ladies, compare and contrast.

If he would have on Linda Dano and Stephen Schnetzer I would be beyond happy.

R121 what about me?

Next time someone should ask me about my piss facial routine.

R120 can you elaborate?

Vanessa and Fletcher were paired? This must have been right after her attempted rape trial or something like that. Then she got back together with Billy, which was short-lived since Jordan Clarke got fired and they hired that other guy who didn't work out, so they had Billy shoot Roger and go to prison.

Then came Matt. My favorite.

I just learned Maeve Kinkead is doing one of these reunions and I am in tears.

Tuesday April 21 at 3 EST

The entire "family"

Maeve, Jordan Clarke, Kurt McKinney, Gina Tognoni and Bryan Buffington ("Little" Billy when he was little!)

what about me?

Wendy Moniz will never be on one of these. Too disliked by colleagues and fans. And I'll bet she doesn't give a shit either, so it works out.

Ask Maeve and Gina about my piss regimen and my post-lunch liquor shits.

They should do a writer/producer episode - I want to see Allan bring Ellen Wheeler to tears and ask Megan McTavish why she's such a freak.

Too bad Paul Rauch is dead. He'd be great in this upcoming reunion with Maeve.

R126, yes, Vanessa and Fletcher were briefly paired. I think you are right that it was after that sexual harassment trial she won. Vanessa was also on the rebound after Billy married Nadine while Fletcher was hurting after Alex rejected him for the millionth time. It didn’t last very long, they both realized they were still pining for Billy and Alex.

I do still weirdly remember their breakup scene: they were sitting on a stoop (indoor 5th St set, I think) talking about who they wanted to see come around the corner for them. Of course the answers were Billy and Alex.

Thinking about it now, Vanessa and Fletch each got what they wished for when the show ended.

r131 Enough! That never happened and I'm sick of you constantly posting the same thing. You'll be blocked next.

Ignore her, R135.

It's the same person who used to go on and on about Eileen Fulton clogging the toilets at ATWT, and the same person who keeps posting weird, fucked up shit about Y&R recasting Mrs. Chancellor.

R125 not much without fear of repercussions from spilling too much tea!

57 of Grant's ancestors were horses. He wears human veneers and physical magic to look more humanly. He also has a horse fetish. He's an unapologetic child molester and jealous narcissist who is pro-incest and very dysfunctional.

He and Kim are Freemasons. They both have severe stalking issues and they don't sleep. Instead, they abuse Adderall to stay up for years at a time. Both alcoholics but he doesn't drink anymore because he doesn't want to lose his looks to the drink. Kim DGAF.

- r120

anyhoo.....

137- that was the most batshit post in awhile. Drug use is not good for the brain.

R137 and did he get along with Mary Kay Adams?

Someone is smoking the hard shit this afternoon.

If you knew anything about Grant or Kim, none of that information would come as a surprise. That's only the top of the iceberg.

The *tip of the iceberg

Did someone say drugs?

Blocking 137

I've been busy lately. Eavesdropping never stops, even in a lockdown!

But I do have some free time now to watch these video chats with GL and ATWT cast members. Can someone please post the links to them.

Many thanks. Hope everyone is staying safe and healthy! That includes you, Donna. And Cecile too!

Hello, Liz!

I'm staying healthy. Also need to catch up on those reunion chats!

A small trivia: Cecile (and Nancy Frangione) is the answer to a Digest mailbag letter this week.

R147, how does anyone get out to buy that magazine now?

R148 I actually haven't purchased it for eons upon eons but I discovered my library has a number of digital magazines available and Digest turned out to be one of them!

Here's a link to the Locher Room for those GL and WT reunions. Eavesdrop away!

Many thanks Scotty troll @r150.

I’d like an AMC reunion with Kim Delaney, Larry Lau, Darnell Williams, Marcy Walker and Amanda Bearse.

I subscribed to Soap Digest for decades. Loved it back in the 1980s when I first started reading. Kept every issue. As a matter of fact, someday I'll give all those back issues to a university library. Or possibly sell them on eBay.

Anyway, back in 2016 or 2017, delivery of Soap Digest was spotty. Post office would deliver 2 issues in a week, then go month before delivering another issue. At one point, they failed to deliver 6-7 weeks in a row. When I called Soap Digest subscription fulfillment center to complain, they assured me they'd rush out the missing issues. Of course, they never came. I called again, they again promised to send the missing issues but they still never came.

In the meantime, more issues failed to be delivered. I complained about those too. Soap Digest finally said the problem was on my end and I should call the post office about the missing issues, not them. That caviler attitude to a longtime subscriber incensed me.

While all this was happening, I realized I was getting all my soap news online anyway, so why should I invest money in a magazine they could only get to my mail box 2 out of every 4 issues. A few months later when it came time to renew the subscription, I let it lapse. And I never really missed it. Nowadays, I'll occasionally glance through Digest while in line at the grocery store, but otherwise, I don't really think about Soap Digest. That's how irrelevant it has become.

Interestingly enough, Soap Digest never once called or wrote to ask why a 30+ year subscriber suddenly wasn't renewing his subscription. Shows how much they really care about the people who'd been keeping them in business for decades.

R153 - same deal here. Deliver is TERRIBLE.

Liz, wasn't that around the time SOD switched from who used to own them to their new publisher (which if I'm not mistaken is in some way related to the Nat'l Enquirer)?

I envy those saved copies. Several times I wanted to either research something, prove a point or yes, correct a Wikipedia article. But libraries almost never have those magazines in their archives to cite.

ORD dear, I understand your frustration.

A public library is unlikely to keep back issues to a specialty magazine like Soap Digest. Only a research library like one connected to a university would have such specialty magazines. For example, here in Los Angeles, the UCLA library has a small collection of SOD from the mid 80s to the mid 90s, but the USC library has nothing.

Frankly, I suspect the same attitude which allows the networks to break into soaps for "news" interruptions, but never break into a sports program for "news interruptions" is at play with various research libraries as well That attitude is one that soaps are silly, mindless entertainment which only women watch so it's not worthy of any serious consideration.

R156 And, I partly blame feminists for that. They seem embarrassed by soap operas, even though it was one of the few areas of entertainment where women could not only create but flourish. Every Women's Studies, and broadcasting department, should be celebrating Irna Phillps, Agnes Nixon, Gloria Monty, etc...

The soap opera medium is continually ridiculed, and yet the people working in it have to memorize pages of dialogue daily and nail it in one take to keep on time and budget. As Grant Aleksander put it this past week, you have to be fast and good.

Compare this with weekly dramas and comedies and movies where you shoot scenes over the course of several hours, days, or weeks. I've been to Will and Grace tapings and that show takes HOURS to film the 20 minutes that ultimately air as one episode, and the cast is goofing off more than they're playing their parts.

And yet soaps are the ones that suck.

American Media, Inc. is the current owner of Soap Digest. I believe they purchased Soap Digest about 2013 or 2014 from Source Interlink, which had purchased the magazine from Primedia in 2007.

American Media also owns Us Weekly, the Star, OK!, Men Journal, etc.

American Media owned the National Enquirer until April 18, 2019 (one year ago today) when it was sold to the Hudson Group following the scandal where the Enquirer tried to blackmail Jeff Bezos.

R158 Exactly. In terms of difficulty for the actors, I'd rank it like this 1) soaps, 2) stage, 3) Primetime Television, 4) Movies. Remember, when Joan Collins did her short stint as Alexandra on GL, one reason it was short was because she said she just couldn't handle the pace, compared to primetime or the movies. And, she wasn't some novice. At that time she'd been in the business for around fifty years.

I was sad Collins left GL so early.

She said it was b/c of her book tour and Rauch had left and he was her champion.

Collins told Soap Opera Weekly, I believe, that Alexandra was based on Alexis...ironically, I believe Alexis was based on Iris Carrington, played by McKinsey, who created Alexandra.

ORD/R155 - Try classicsodamc.tumblr.com (insert "amc" for any other soap acronym - aw, atwt, gh, etc). They have summaries going from the first issue to the early 90s on each site. The sites are updated pretty regularly. It's amazing! They have all the cancelled soaps prior to 1991/1992 (where they are up to) - Ryan's Hope, Search for Tomorrow, Love of Life, Loving, etc

That's pretty cool, R162 -- thanks!

[quote] I’d like an AMC reunion with Kim Delaney, Larry Lau, Darnell Williams, Marcy Walker and Amanda Bearse.

Well, fuck my drag, right.

poor Debbi - they forgot yo ass!

I didn’t forget, Debbi, I just left her out on purpose. I worked on the show back then and she was quite a little cunt.

(((GASP)))

Even if this is a P&G thread, we've pulled up a chair and welcome Miss R152/R166 if she wants to dish.

R152 R166 = Enid Nelson

I saw Debbi at the 2009 Daytime Emmys after party

Me: Did you call the police?

Debbi: ????? No...why????

Me: 'Cuz you got robbed tonight.

Wow, R168, I bet she thanked you, turned away and rolled her eyes.

She was an utter cunt. Darnell, who was wonderful, couldn’t stand her. Everyone hated her.

R169

Really??? Darnell & Debbi didn't get along? This kills my teenage heart.

No, R169, it wasn’t that. They didn’t fight. Darnell is a total sweetheart. He just tolerated her. It wasn’t in his nature to get noticeably irritated by her. And he loved his AMC job and would never jeapardize it just because she was a snotty little cunt.

No, R169, it wasn’t that. They didn’t fight. Darnell is a total sweetheart. He just tolerated her. It wasn’t in his nature to get noticeably irritated by her. And he loved his AMC job and would never jeapardize it just because she was a snotty little cunt.

Jesse's return from the dead scenes at the train station and their reconnecting at the cabin were flawless.

Debbi & Darnell's intense chemistry flicked back on like a light switch.

Would someone like me to create a thread about Angie/Jesse or an AMC or AMC/OLTL thread?

Yes, this is P&G soaps. Thanks.

Can someone list all the gay people that appeared on the P&G soaps, including people rumored to have had same sex affairs?

Here's what I know:

GL: Matt Bomer (Ben), Chris Bernau (Alan), Maureen Garrett (Holly)

ATWT: Van Hansis (Luke)

AW: Constance Ford (Ada)

AW: Richard Bekins, Warren Burton, Kevin Conroy GL: Erik Howell, Joseph Breen ATWT: John Colenback, Dennis Cooney

R176

Too many to mention.

EON: Joel Crothers, Dennis Parker, and many, many more guys. Also: Holland Taylor.

I don’t think Joseph Breen is gay, his HIV status was from drug usage.

R180

Correct

Wasn't Ben Hendrickson rumored to be gay?

Yes, Hendrickson was gay.

George Reinholt (Steve Frame) on AW

Here's the Angie thread

There was an actor named Richard Clarke, I think he was on GL and ATWT, who did a hilarious interview with Daytime TV. "I'm in love with a beautiful girl!' - it was the Statue of Liberty and he was a British guy as gay as a three dollar bill. You didn't have to read between the lines.

R176, isn't his name Ham Hansis?

R169, she actually took a beat and then smiled. Most times when you ask someone if they've called the police, it throws them off.

It was an industry night and the interaction was brief so, Debbi was nice enough. I fully believe your story though.

The number of ingrates in soaps and in show biz boggles my mind.

If I landed a job acting on a soap or a sitcom, I'd be kissing the ground 24/7. I've seen many nice folks in the soap biz. But you'd think everyone would be.

R187 It's Van Haznisssssssssssssssss

Ada may own the dishtowels, but I could really work the FUCK out of a scarf!

wow!

R176 the guy who played Danny Santon on GL. He is married to a man

A photo from the wedding of Paul Michael Stewart ("Danny Santos" on GL). to Michael Cook.

Larkin Malloy GL

Michael Lipton who was on Somerset and ATWT.

R192 what a lovely bride Paul has. Michael Cook? Was she named after Miss Michael Learned?

Anyway, I'm sure it was a lovely ceremony.

Ooops, that should be addressed to R193. The tears of joy welling in my eyes at the joy of the union of Paul and Miss Michael caused me to mistype.

I am so grateful that he married a pretty girl who's name is in honor of his first (and true) love with our beloved Michelle.

Not sure why, but I was genuinely surprised Paul Michael Stewart was gay.

R193

PMS' husband is handsome. What does he do?

I love you all but it's Paul Anthony Stewart.

I saw PAS in person when I was in NYC to see my long distance BF in 2004. I also saw him, Father Ray, Marj, Richard. I walked into the lobby of their studios near the UN and PAS got off the elevator. My BF was like, "that's Danny" and if I knew he was gay, I would have invited him for a threesome.

[quote] I don’t think Joseph Breen is gay, his HIV status was from drug usage.

This thread made me look him up, and I surprisingly discovered that in 2006, well after being diagnosed with HIV, he married Country singer Carlene Carter. Carlene is Country royalty, as she is June Carter's daughter with fellow Country singer Carl Smith.

Thank you so much, r200.

r193 (who got it wrong first)

Carlene once famously said she was going to put the CUNT back into country.

r204 There was a restaurant in South Phila., Carmen's Country Kitchen, whose owner used that as her tagline, "Carmen put the cunt back in country."

Watching Gina Tognoni on Alan’s show and she seems like a really cool lady. I never bought her as Dinah, though. I would have bought her as Harley.

R206

Gina was fabulous as Dinah. She deserved both of those Emmy wins.

According to Jordi Villasuso they are planning a GL reunion with him, PAS, Carmen Santiago and Joie Lenz

R208 I can happily skip that.

Yup, just announced today. Ugh. No thanks.

Surprised Nancy St Alban is not invited but Joie was......

Speaking of Nancy St Alban, back when she was on the show we went on a charity tour of 10 homes in the Homeland section of Baltimore and one of them happened to be her parents' house, and it was kind of tacky that they had a spread of magazines with her on the cover on the kitchen table!

Uggh, Nancy St. Alban was like a Pampers commercial actress who wandered on a soap set. She was way too bland as Michelle.

Yeah the Santos family and that whole royalty riff in San Cristobel was truly the end. I stopped watching in the late 90's but remember I was home and tuned in for a rando episode and there was some Buckingham Palace-type shit with people in uniforms with swords, etc. This would cut to scenes with this woman as the head of the mob family. It was horrendous.

The show today with MK,KM,BB and GT was great. I love that he does these.

It's true; Jordi says it'll be Saundra, Joy Lenz, PAS and Father Ray.

that shot of him on the rug with his hair blown out is hot and funny at the same time.

The Matt and Vanessa hookup was my favorite GL couple/story, so to see Kurt and Maeve today was fabulous. What a wonderful way to do these reunions. Everyone just gives up an hour in their own houses and there's no awkwardness with weird fans who want hugs and pictures. When else would you ever just get to see the cast like this talking about behind the scenes stuff to this extent? It's better than the in-person stuff where there's not nearly the same amount of detail or access.

I loved hearing that Maeve Kincead is going to be a grandmother for the first time, albeit under difficult circumstances. Her daughter Maude looks more like her aunt Meryl than her mother Maeve. I met Maude on the set of Doubt where she was a production assistant. She was very sweet.

Does anyone know what happened to the video from today's live stream of the GL reunion? I was working all day and was looking forward to watching, especially seeing Maeve.

R217 How cool and yes I agree Maud definitely resembles her aunt! Really nice of Maeve to devote time to this now knowing the personal craziness in her own life, on top of the general pandemic situation.

She is still looking so lovely. In particular I loved her look in the 90's with her hair shorter as she got older. Age really softened her and made her even prettier. If you go back to the older tapes from the 80's with the big hair, super thick brows, and strong bone structure she had a much harsher look about her.

Honestly, I never knew she is married to Meryl Streep's brother.

R218 It's the following for today's show with Kurt, Maeve, Bryan, and Gina. The Locher Room channel is where you can see these reunions either live or as playbacks.

So happy! Thanks for the memories! It's great to see and share GL with others.

Love Maeve. Early Vanessa was a gay boy's primer.

R215

Jordi is easily the hottest man currently on Daytime TV. Just look at that hot AF man

I wonder why Jason Clarke hasn't participated in these reunions. I hope he's OK.

R221 That was one of Alan's better interviews. The most watched reunion, I think, is the Grant/Beth/MOL one at 10k. The next best viewed is the first ATWT one at 8k.

One presumes r225 is referring to Jordan Clarke.

Maeve talked about her makeup the night she won the Emmy and not liking it. I actually liked the makeup, but it was the hair that didn't look great. It looked like they'd taken the rollers out but not combed the hair through.

Regardless, so many people noticed her that evening because she is/was not one to get glammed up.

I never found Vanessa an interesting character.

R229, how far back do you go. Doug Marland created the character and she was brilliant when she first came on to Springfield.

She was toned down when Reva came on but later had a comeback.

I started watching when I was home sick from 3rd grade in 1991. I've caught up on everything from 1983 to 1990 on youtube. Well what is on youtube.

I thought it was very sweet when Bryan Buffington talked about the late Vince Williams, who played Hampton Speakes.

R232 Yes what a blast from the past! Loved him. I'll never forget when they would play the GL theme from his saxophone music, especially during montages.

Christopher Schemering who wrote the Soap Encyclopedia about GL: 'all of Doug Marland's characters had been written out or diffused" (what a great word)

That certainly applied to Vanessa. She was cutthroat when she first came to town. Pushing Eve ('little Evie') around and showing up at Ross Marler's house in nothing but a fur coat. Calculating, devoted to her daddy (the great Bill Roerick), Vanessa dated Ed and bedded Tony Reardon.

I grew to appreciate Vanessa and Billy, but there were times I never understood what she saw in not so much him, but the whole Lewis lifestyle.

In 1987, Pam Long was back; had a different take on Vanessa. Engaged to Alan, Vanessa left town to be with Billy who had fallen off the wagon in Venezuela.

Never quite the same as when Doug wrote her, Vanessa was a big favorite of mine. She could still play bitch. When Holly brought flowers from Roger for Maureen's funeral, Vanessa intercepted them, asked if Roger had included a card; Holly wasn't sure. Vanessa sees a note and without opening it, hides it in her purse and smirks at Holly (who should have known better) and says: "Maureen will know."

I still never found Vanessa interesting. I wasn't born during the Marland years. She was very meh.

Vanessa has long been a favorite of mine.

Maeve kept her alive, even during the Reva Show.

You know, I was taking a lot of the GL gossip from the Grillo thread w/the usual grain of salt.

But interesting to me that Maeve's video conference, of all her costars, is with....Kurt. Hmmm.

Maeve Kinkead was unhappy when Pam Long was writing the show - she said that Pam turned Vanessa from a strong vibrant career woman to a pill-popping suburban housewife

Kinkead said Pam focused on two women only - Reva & Alex, to the detriment of Vanessa. She kept in perspective though being professional and showing up. It was only when Kinkead made noises about leaving, did TPTB take any action on changing the characterization of Vanessa - by that time Pam Long was gone

In her Emmy acceptance speech Maeve thanks 3 people in particular - Jill Farren Phelps, Douglas Marland and Betty Rea

Ellen Parker (ex-Maureen) is still close friends with Meryl Streep (having acted in theater productions together) and Maeve Kinkead.

The only two actors who have worked with BOTH Meryl Streep and Maeve Kinkead are

Allison Janney and Kevin Bacon.

R238- She also focused on Beth. At least in her initial run as HW. She was the only writer who got Beth, Reva and Alex. She wrote Beth's great return from the dead but didn't write as much for her after that.

Maeve Kinkead acting with Oscar Winner Teresa Wright on Guiding Light

I loved how they raved about how the acting quality on GL was so superior. GL had some major talent go through there. I know other soaps had acting talent as well but when I would casually view other shows, only ATWT came close to GL in acting talent.

[quote] GL had some major talent go through there.

All thanks to Betty Rea, the casting director. (who for a few years did double duty casting both GL & ATWT)

Here Meryl Streep talks about Maeve Kinkead in a speech honoring Vanessa Redgrave!

Why didn't Maeve try to get Meryl on GL? Meryl would have totally done it.

They also reiterated the notion of how the set of GL was so chill, relaxed, full of no ego and people who were funny and pleasant. I assume they did not include Beth Ehlers in that since she was a miserable nasty bitch.

[quote] Why didn't Maeve try to get Meryl on GL? Meryl would have totally done it.

Probably not.

I think she would have. Meryl is adventurous and fun. Meave would never have asked, though.

I forgot that John J. York mispronounced Maeve's name.

Crystal Chappell said Guiding Light set was far more relaxed and ego-free than Days of our Lives

I also enjoyed Maeve saying that Elvera Roussel (Hope Bauer) said to her “You look terrified! You don’t need to be, this set is so much nicer than that other soap you were on.” Heh heh. I think Maeve didn’t have any problems with the AW cast but did have a big problem with executive producer Paul Rauch.

Wasn't the GL set considered very wild in the 80s? Someone here said it was Coke Central. I find that hard to believe since it never seemed the performers were coked up. Maybe they meant Cock Central?

All NYC soap sets were very coke fueled in the 80s. GL may not have been as bad as some of the others but it got messy for some of them, Kristi Ferrell (Roxie) in particular.

R253 Ok dish. Anybody else from GL?

I really only heard the overt stories about Kristi getting in trouble. I can't say for sure about anyone else though I would imagine the younger crowd at that time that were heavy in story may have used.

AMC apparently had the messiest set in NYC. Walt Willey has been pretty open about that.

The younger set of Judi/Grant/Michael/Krista? Doesn't seem likely. Or the set from when Kevin Bacon was on?

Or the Ian Zeiring/Paige Turco set?

R256 Grant was known to be a partier on his first GL go-round, as was Vincent Irizarry. But like I said, I don't know if any of them ever did or ever got to the point there was an issue. I don't know if Kim ever did, either. But some of those shows were filming 18-20 hours a day for some storylines, so....coffee ain't gonna cut it for that, y'know?

I think GL and ATWT were quieter sets than the ABC soaps, but I think AW had issues, and AMC was a mess.

R250

That's rich coming from CC considering she demanded to not work with Grant once he returned. CC was quite the bitch.

R253

I think coke was pretty consistent on all soaps during the 80s. Kin Shriner said it was out in the open on the Craft Services table.

CC is widely believed to be someone who complained about Grant - her support/comment in the magazines was noticeably absent when Grant was fired in 2004.

Wheeler probably believed GA would come back with a smaller salary in a few months once things cooled down, but it ended up being way longer. And CC and GA shared maybe 2 scenes in the last 6 months of GL when he was back.

Lee Godart (Kent) was immediately fired when exec producer Jackie Babbin saw him doing coke as she passed by the hallway and his dressing room door was open.

I watched the reunion with Maeve Kinkead, Kurt Mc et al

I got about a third of the way in and Maeve said, "We were all so lucky, weren't we?"

And I just LOST it. Ugly cry.

I miss that show.

They all have mentioned what partiers GA and MOL were back in the day. Their dressing room was a destination spot for boozing it up.

MOL is sober now about 5 years.

I love Danny Cosgrove. He is so funny and what a hunk still.

r264

Danny C was creepy in YOU

May 1st

Hubbard & Bryne do a reunion!!

LIZ MOTHERFUCKING HUBBARD!!!!

OMFG!!!!!

MY QUEEN! YES!

Apparently Muriel is tired of us talking about Reva, so she paywalled this thread.

So, lets move on and chat about Felicia on this new thread.