I listened to Jaime King on Illeana Douglas's movie podcast last week, and it was honestly difficult to listen to at times. You could tell she was straining her vocabulary to try and sound as intellectual and well-read as possible, but it was clear that she's not. Which other famous people do this? There has to be a lot of them.
Celebrities who try to sound more intelligent than they actually are
by Anonymous | reply 223 | May 27, 2020 4:04 PM |
Madonna owns this thread.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | March 28, 2020 5:00 AM |
Roseanne.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | March 28, 2020 5:01 AM |
Mike Tyson
by Anonymous | reply 3 | March 28, 2020 5:16 AM |
When Jennifer Garner tried to correct Conan on the proper usage of sneaked versus snuck. He then pulled out a dictionary and corrected her. I loved that moment of embarrassment on her face!
by Anonymous | reply 4 | March 28, 2020 5:27 AM |
R4 You could have posted the link! I hadn't seen it before! š
by Anonymous | reply 5 | March 28, 2020 5:34 AM |
R5 Talk about instant karma! Thatās what she gets for trying to put him down.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | March 28, 2020 6:22 AM |
Lady Gaga.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | March 28, 2020 6:24 AM |
Ashley Judd is notoriously pretentious.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | March 28, 2020 6:24 AM |
Beyonce.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | March 28, 2020 6:25 AM |
After the first couple of Rocky movies, Stallone tried to reinvent himself as a writer and painter (remember when he was a painter?).
Some People-type rag ran a photo of his ground beef face trying to look pensive as he consulted an oversized Oxford dictionary. It was hilarious.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | March 28, 2020 6:27 AM |
Whenever you meet a celebrity think of them as once been a skanky boy like you were, or a crybaby girl like you were. If you like you can think of them as firmer struggling actors unable to meet the rent.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | March 28, 2020 6:28 AM |
Iāve always been a fan of the male firm.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | March 28, 2020 6:30 AM |
Whoopi Goldberg. She has a strong, emotional speaking style that makes you want to trust her. But then...
by Anonymous | reply 13 | March 28, 2020 6:31 AM |
Never correct a Harvard Man on his own show.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | March 28, 2020 6:32 AM |
Dotard tRump
by Anonymous | reply 15 | March 28, 2020 6:34 AM |
Charlie Rose
by Anonymous | reply 16 | March 28, 2020 6:35 AM |
All of them
by Anonymous | reply 17 | March 28, 2020 6:35 AM |
Neil deGrasse Tyson
by Anonymous | reply 18 | March 28, 2020 6:44 AM |
Rupaul has read every book by Oprah.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | March 28, 2020 6:47 AM |
Oprah
by Anonymous | reply 20 | March 28, 2020 6:53 AM |
All of them.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | March 28, 2020 6:55 AM |
R21, are you also R17?
by Anonymous | reply 22 | March 28, 2020 6:56 AM |
Joaquin Phoenix. If that unintelligible Oscar speech didn't prove his limited intellectual capacity, nothing will. And Renee Zellwegger wasn't far behind with her incoherent diatribe.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | March 28, 2020 7:41 AM |
Joy Reid
by Anonymous | reply 24 | March 28, 2020 8:30 AM |
Michelle Williams.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | March 28, 2020 8:42 AM |
Brad Pitt.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | March 28, 2020 10:08 AM |
Courtney Love.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | March 28, 2020 12:09 PM |
Goop
by Anonymous | reply 28 | March 28, 2020 12:11 PM |
Russell Brand
by Anonymous | reply 29 | March 28, 2020 12:49 PM |
ScarJo
by Anonymous | reply 30 | March 28, 2020 12:56 PM |
Madonna, Trump, Joy Reid, Ezra Klein, Ta-Nehisi Coates. Is RenƩe Zellweger trying to sound intelligent, or just revealing she is very high on drugs? Dax Shepard - though I STILL want to lap his hole and Hoover his splooge.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | March 28, 2020 1:13 PM |
I second Joy Reid. Add most of MSNBC. Jennifer Lopez. Meghan and Harry. S
by Anonymous | reply 32 | March 28, 2020 1:38 PM |
Gwyneth Paltrow and Sting. Canāt listen to either.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | March 28, 2020 1:41 PM |
Bill Cosby
by Anonymous | reply 34 | March 28, 2020 1:46 PM |
Rose McGowan
by Anonymous | reply 35 | March 28, 2020 3:26 PM |
Sylvester Stallone = dumber than a box of rocks.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | March 28, 2020 5:02 PM |
Brad Pitt = dumb as an ashtray. Michelle Williams = dumb as an ashtray Oprah = dumb as an ashtray Julia Roberts = dumb as an ashtray Brie Larson = dumb as an ashtray Armie Hammer = Very low IQ Jennifer Lawrence = zero IQ
by Anonymous | reply 37 | May 4, 2020 12:17 PM |
Ben Affleck. Although he stepped away from the intellectual posing as he became more of a drunk. I saw an interview with him years ago and had to turn it off because it was too cringeworthy. I think he even had political aspirations at one point.
Didnāt Sylvester Stallone write Rocky when he was a nobody? He canāt be stupid.
The Garner clip is worse than I expected. Snuck isnāt a word? Good grief! āWait, is snuck a word?ā I can see. But being sure of something so wrong and getting preachy about it? Thatās book dumb and street dumb. Is she always insufferable?
by Anonymous | reply 38 | May 4, 2020 12:43 PM |
R37 Yeah, no. I get you don't like these people, but they are not as dumb as you would like them to be
by Anonymous | reply 39 | May 4, 2020 12:49 PM |
Brad Pitt.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | May 4, 2020 12:52 PM |
Darren Criss
by Anonymous | reply 41 | May 4, 2020 12:52 PM |
Tammy Crooze
by Anonymous | reply 42 | May 4, 2020 1:01 PM |
Mark Ruffalo
by Anonymous | reply 43 | May 4, 2020 1:05 PM |
Will Smith.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | May 4, 2020 1:06 PM |
All the actors. They try to convince everyone, including themselves, that they are more than, just some how attractive people, who are good at pretending they are someone else.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | May 4, 2020 1:19 PM |
[quote]Charlie Rose
He's so dumb he's incapable of hiding it.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | May 4, 2020 1:22 PM |
Brad Pitt the architectural aesthete always makes me laugh.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | May 4, 2020 1:23 PM |
Robert De Niro. Acting is the only viable career path for him. He's that dumb.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | May 4, 2020 1:31 PM |
Oh, Alicia, was it all some marketing scheme to live up to the title?
by Anonymous | reply 49 | May 4, 2020 1:32 PM |
DeNiro may not be the most articulate but he's made a kiling in real estate investments. Maybe it's luck but he owns at least one entire block in Tribeca. Christie Brinkley is truly dumb as a box of rocks and also did well investing in real estate. She is truly an idiot.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | May 4, 2020 1:38 PM |
I really don't think Meryl Streep is that intelligent to be honest.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | May 4, 2020 1:40 PM |
Britney Spears
by Anonymous | reply 52 | May 4, 2020 1:42 PM |
[quote] Yeah, no.
Speaking of, um . . .
by Anonymous | reply 53 | May 4, 2020 1:45 PM |
Mika from Morning Joe. She's more suited to a celebrity interview show than a news show. She seems to be riding on her father's reputation.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | May 4, 2020 1:46 PM |
Some of the people mentioned in this thread are uneducated not dumb. There is a difference.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | May 4, 2020 1:57 PM |
Where does that put George W. Bush, R55?
by Anonymous | reply 56 | May 4, 2020 1:58 PM |
Not formally educated, you mean.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | May 4, 2020 1:59 PM |
The late Roger Ailes was spot on when he said Biden was a dumber than an ashtray. I don't like Trump but Biden shouldn't be anywhere near the White House.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | May 4, 2020 1:59 PM |
[quote]The Garner clip is worse than I expected. Snuck isnāt a word? Good grief! āWait, is snuck a word?ā I can see. But being sure of something so wrong and getting preachy about it? Thatās book dumb and street dumb. Is she always insufferable?
Yes, though her marital woes have knocked this fraucunt down a peg or two. Back in the day, both she and Ben Affleck were preachy, better-than-you fucks. Glad to see both have been mightily humbled.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | May 4, 2020 2:01 PM |
Jessica Chastain. Thread Closed.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | May 4, 2020 2:02 PM |
Yes R57, that's what I meant.
R56. GWB and Trump are very similar to me: two rich kids whose pedigree allowed them to attend the best schools and have access to power but both have a total and complete lack of intellectual curiosity. Because they have so-called charisma and savviness, they've been able to succeed, but neither one had any business being president.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | May 4, 2020 2:14 PM |
Conan is intimidatingly smart, imo. Perhaps we should give Garner points for thinking she had the brains to take him on even if it was just over the usage of one word.
I am going to go against this thread and name a celebrity who I think is genuinely smart, Reese Witherspoon.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | May 4, 2020 2:22 PM |
[quote]Snuck isnāt a word? Good grief! āWait, is snuck a word?ā I can see. But being sure of something so wrong and getting preachy about it? Thatās book dumb and street dumb. Is she always insufferable?
My third grade teacher informed us snuck wasn't a word, the same way we were taught that ain't wasn't a word. This was way back in the 60s, and that was a commonplace pronouncement. Now a teacher might distinguish between formal usage and informal rather than declare ain't wasn't a word at all. And, FWIW, I'm pretty sure I watched David Letterman tell Terri Garr the same thing. It might have been a dispute about another word she used, but it was something informal and Letterman told her that that (whatever it was) wasn't a word.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | May 4, 2020 2:28 PM |
Not exactly an answer to the question, but I want to shoehorn this in somewhere. I was so impressed with Bill Gates during his town hall with Sanjay Gupta the other night, discussing the pandemic. Obviously heās a very intelligent man, we all know this. But heās a very effective communicator, as well. He spoke clearly and simply, and it felt like the information went right into my brain. He didnāt pause, digress or add anything extraneous to his sentences. There was no attitude of condescension, of letting you know heās the smartest guy in the room.
Thereās a sort of graciousness that some people have, even when itās an absolute given that theyāre richer/better-looking/smarter, they donāt bludgeon you with it. I really appreciate that.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | May 4, 2020 2:34 PM |
Chris Evans
by Anonymous | reply 65 | May 4, 2020 2:51 PM |
Matt Damon, George Clooney, Sean Penn & Susan Sarandon. People only pay Sarandon any attention because she has big knockers.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | May 4, 2020 2:59 PM |
No mention of James Franco yet?
by Anonymous | reply 68 | May 4, 2020 3:02 PM |
Gwyneth Paltrow. Remember when she said she had to educate Brad Pitt?
If you are ever unfortunate enough to read one of her interviews, youāll see itās sprinkled with ālikes:ā āAnd I was, like....ā She also refers to things she approves of as āpunk rock,ā an expression the use of which should be punishable by firing squad.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | May 4, 2020 3:03 PM |
R37: I always found Jennifer Lawrence to be obnoxiously immature and there's a reason for that. Turns out she dropped out of [bold]middle school[/bold] at 14! Before the truth was discovered, her PR machinery claimed she graduated high school two years early with a 3.9 GPA, which allowed her to pursue acting with her parents' permission.
Don't these famehos realize that when you become a celebrity, people will scrutinize your history?
by Anonymous | reply 70 | May 4, 2020 3:33 PM |
Timothee Chalamet
by Anonymous | reply 71 | May 4, 2020 3:38 PM |
Denzel Washington. He almost didn't graduate college. His GPA was 1. something.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | May 4, 2020 3:57 PM |
Emma Stone
by Anonymous | reply 73 | May 4, 2020 3:58 PM |
Brie Larson
by Anonymous | reply 74 | May 4, 2020 3:59 PM |
It would be helpful if posters could back up their opinions with examples. Nothing extravagant, just a simple example or link. Otherwise, this is just another thread allowing us to spout names of celebrities we don't like.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | May 4, 2020 4:04 PM |
I agree with someone upthread on Mark Ruffalo. He's pretentious as fuck and he pisses me off more than Susan Sarandon.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | May 4, 2020 4:12 PM |
Fame seems to cause a Dunning-Kruger effect. It is possible many celebrities believe that because they are high performers in their given field, they are also highly intelligent.
Or it could be they were like that even before fame.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | May 4, 2020 4:53 PM |
Geena Davis. She does have a high IQ. And never lets us forget it.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | May 4, 2020 5:01 PM |
Johnny Depp. I don't believe I really need to make a link, or cite a specific example, as someone had suggested upthread. Everything sound stilted, and pontificus. I like that he speaks French, but do not care much for him speaking English. The self-styled accent is pretentious as well.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | May 4, 2020 5:13 PM |
Lea Michele
by Anonymous | reply 81 | May 4, 2020 5:36 PM |
Snoop Dogg
by Anonymous | reply 82 | May 4, 2020 5:37 PM |
Elizabeth Banks
by Anonymous | reply 83 | May 4, 2020 5:44 PM |
Isnāt it easier to highlight celebrities who actually sound intelligent when they speak? Itās a surprise when a celebrity does sound intelligent when theyāre talking about non-industry or non-Hollywood issues. Most celebrities are street smart at best instead being intellectual or having high intelligence.
There are some exceptions who are hard to categorize, like Keanu Reeves. He comes off as introspective but not highly intelligent, heāll sometimes surprise us with Deep Thoughts. Therein lies his brilliance.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | May 4, 2020 5:47 PM |
Iād LOVE to find the interview Gwyneth Paltrow gave in the DailyCandy.com It was in about 2002, and Iād have to go through their unsearchable archive.
The angle was her favorite things, and I still remember some of her snootiest answers. Favorite candy: I donāt eat candy. favorite florist: she wouldnāt say, because she didnāt want everyone using him. Favorite dry cleaner: āI donāt know where she takes the dry-cleaningā Favorite bakery: something vegan banana muffins.
Iād suspect she had it scrubbed because she came off as such a snobby twat. But itās relatively obscure, and I found it a couple of years ago.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | May 4, 2020 5:55 PM |
Spike Lee
by Anonymous | reply 86 | May 4, 2020 6:11 PM |
Dr. Phil & Dr.Oz
by Anonymous | reply 87 | May 4, 2020 6:11 PM |
Eva Longoria
by Anonymous | reply 88 | May 4, 2020 6:18 PM |
Depp and Penn, listed above, are prime examples.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | May 4, 2020 6:22 PM |
R71 except TimothƩe was admitted to Columbia University at age 17 and is known to have a Mensa level IQ
by Anonymous | reply 90 | May 4, 2020 7:23 PM |
Didn't a celeb get caught lying about being Mensa members years ago? I think it was a woman.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | May 4, 2020 8:55 PM |
Gov,. Andrew Cuomo
(not quite a celebrity, but he sure loves to hear himself talk.)
by Anonymous | reply 92 | May 4, 2020 9:00 PM |
[quote]Didn't a celeb get caught lying about being Mensa members years ago? I think it was a woman.
Me.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | May 4, 2020 9:09 PM |
R58 Roger Ailes said a lot of things as he was lopping up tuna salad from Au Bon Pain off his desk and tie. Any observation from Jabba isn't worth noting.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | May 4, 2020 9:24 PM |
R91 his admission to Columbia University at 17 is something he canāt have faked. Easily verified.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | May 4, 2020 9:28 PM |
Reese Witherspoon
by Anonymous | reply 96 | May 4, 2020 9:33 PM |
R85, I doubt the muffins were vegan. I donāt why she gets that label - her cookbooks (yes, I know she doesnāt write them) are full of chicken recipes, etc.
The rest of her answers, like the florist...SMH. Twat.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | May 4, 2020 9:39 PM |
Um, all of them.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | May 4, 2020 11:14 PM |
Leonardo DiCaprio. I actually think he's quite intelligent despite being a highschool dropout, at least by celebrity standards. He always struck me as someone who has common sense, and probably high emotional intelligence. But his 'sophisticated, thoughtful humanitarian' persona is clearly put on, and it's annoying af. At some point (10 - 15 years ago maybe?), his whole speaking style changed, even his gestures. I hate that 'new' persona ... can barely listen to him anymore.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | May 5, 2020 3:47 AM |
The Garner and Conan clip reminds me of when Kurt Loder corrected Jewel on the use of "casualty" in her poem.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | May 5, 2020 3:52 AM |
r100 I remember this.. so cringe-y. Had Madonna used "casualty" in that way, Kurt would have told her how innovative she was.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | May 5, 2020 3:57 AM |
Al Pacino, maybe. I eagerly tuned in to watch an interview in the last year, maybe it was Actors Studio. I was hoping for brilliant insights, but he talked about very basic happenings and basic ideas. And, he spoke a out these basic pronouncements slowly and emphatically though, as if they were brilliant insights. I became bored and changed the channel. To be fair, he has never seemed to present himself as an intellectual, though.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | May 5, 2020 4:07 AM |
Many Hollywood actors have Ive League education, I get some of you are prissy jealous queens, but people can be smart and beautiful too. Actually Hollywood is way more elitist than people realize.
Nolan Gould from Modern Family is literally a Mensa member. He does give off an aspie vibe.
Keanu comes across as someone who was sexually abused as a teen.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | May 5, 2020 4:08 AM |
r103 you can have an Ivy League education and still overestimate your intelligence.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | May 5, 2020 4:16 AM |
Somewhat must have mentioned Oprah Winfrey by now.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | May 5, 2020 4:26 AM |
Oprah once mispronounced "scourge"!
by Anonymous | reply 106 | May 5, 2020 4:31 AM |
I'm sure TimothƩe is smart, but it's a bit annoying when his fans make him out to be a genius. The Mensa IQ thing is merely someone's opinion passed around enough times that other people believe it to be true. And he was already an established actor when he applied to Columbia. A person with a career at 17 is inherently a strong candidate. That had to have helped him gain admittance there, quite apart from his grades or test scores. The Statistics video doesn't exactly scream "serious student" and he said he got a D plus in that class. It's very unusual to get into an Ivy with any grades that low.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | May 5, 2020 4:34 AM |
Definitely not Trump. He's very blunt.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | May 5, 2020 4:35 AM |
R37 Most of the people on your list, while they are dumb, they don't try to sound smart.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | May 5, 2020 4:54 AM |
R37's post itself is pretty dumb.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | May 5, 2020 5:00 AM |
Dakota Fanning
by Anonymous | reply 111 | May 5, 2020 5:10 AM |
Jlaw owns this thread
by Anonymous | reply 112 | May 5, 2020 5:13 AM |
R112 no she doesn't.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | May 5, 2020 5:55 AM |
Ashley Judd.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | May 5, 2020 6:01 AM |
R107 Armie Hammer said he got a D. My guess is Armie was projecting his own failures, which are apparent, and was trying to spice up the story. He often does that. Simple minds tend to. I recall TimothƩe just smiling and probably thinking to himself what a simpleton he had to work with.
As for his IQ, who cares if itās 120, 150, whatever. He comes from a line of Harvard and Yale graduates. His family obviously has he intelligence gene. Letās not be so jealous. So what heās pretty and clever. It happens. Itās unfair but it happens.
by Anonymous | reply 115 | May 5, 2020 6:47 AM |
Justin Timberlake-point proven if you watch Hot Ones.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | May 5, 2020 6:52 AM |
ScarJo
by Anonymous | reply 117 | May 5, 2020 7:01 AM |
R113 = JLaw, scrolling DL in the next room because her new husband has banned her from āsurprisingā his clients on Zoom meetings
by Anonymous | reply 118 | May 5, 2020 7:16 AM |
[Quote] JLaw, scrolling DL in the next room because her new husband has banned her from āsurprisingā his clients on Zoom meetings
Oh great, a JLaw troll š
by Anonymous | reply 119 | May 5, 2020 7:47 AM |
Madonna
by Anonymous | reply 120 | May 5, 2020 7:59 AM |
R118 God she's such trash.
by Anonymous | reply 121 | May 5, 2020 8:19 AM |
Madonna throwing around the word āreductiveā then telling the journalist to look it up. 1) madonna had clearly Just looked it up. 2) itās not even the right word. Derivative maybe. An homage.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | May 5, 2020 8:29 AM |
People who are constantly nervous can easily sound dumber than they actually are because their thoughts are such a mess. Chalamet for example is definitely smart but due to anxiety he has problems expressing himself properly. This in turn makes him often confuse vocabulary because in high stress situations he focuses on repeating someone else's words instead of forming his own.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | May 5, 2020 9:39 AM |
pete bootyjuice
by Anonymous | reply 124 | May 5, 2020 11:33 AM |
Gwyneth Paltrow
by Anonymous | reply 125 | May 5, 2020 11:44 AM |
Imagine if proving Timothee Chalamet's intelligence were the hill you chose to die on.
by Anonymous | reply 126 | May 5, 2020 4:34 PM |
Joaquin Phoenix
by Anonymous | reply 127 | May 5, 2020 4:49 PM |
King Cuomo II is not that bright and his voice is nails on a chalkboard but he sure loves to see and hear himself talk.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | May 5, 2020 5:05 PM |
R128: The worst is when he brings his fucking daughters to his press briefings.
by Anonymous | reply 129 | May 5, 2020 5:11 PM |
Clowney
by Anonymous | reply 130 | May 5, 2020 5:18 PM |
I've got 2 ivy degrees but I'm not brilliant. All my life I've made an effort to express myself in workaday language because I hate jargon and I hated what jargon and doublespeak did to many academic fields. That is to say I think highly abstract language can be a comedy (among the cognoscenti) but so many people, of average intellect, over-invest in it. In my career there were few experiences more dismal than sitting through management or academic meetings drowning in the lexis de jour. French and German learned tradition foisted this on everyone (Trump tried and failed with "to foist") but too many Americans don't know it's a game. Dire results include almost 2 generations of elite college graduates soused in SJW speak and who don't know shit from Shinola.
by Anonymous | reply 131 | May 5, 2020 5:26 PM |
James Franco posed as an intellectual for a minute and lapped up the praise from fraus and fangurls "oh, he's so smart" for his bullshit. LOL.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | May 5, 2020 5:28 PM |
Joe Rogan.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | May 5, 2020 5:28 PM |
And Madonna? She gets a pass on lexis. The passages through Mid Atlantic and British accents were, however, risible.
by Anonymous | reply 134 | May 5, 2020 5:29 PM |
Claire Danes.
I rolled my eyes so often while listening to her interview on Fresh Air.
She uses "fancy" words -- incorrectly. She thinks "fungible" is a synonym for flexible.
by Anonymous | reply 135 | May 5, 2020 5:30 PM |
Reese Witherspoon.
by Anonymous | reply 136 | May 5, 2020 5:32 PM |
Yes, Oprah and Whoops, Madge and Jay Z, that fashion drugtard closet-case psycho married to that Kardashian, every GOP politician in office today (they're not even true Republicans, since 85% are Tea Party/White-Power/Destroy-the-US antebellum types), the insufferable Gary Oldman and the equally insufferable Edward Norton! Shia, too, as well as the repulsive Joaquin Phoenix. Miss Jolie has tried to seem smart when all she, and a lot of the others here, are merely cunning.
And, of course, Miss Markle, who has the intelligence of a sugar beet.
I never can tell if Jennifer Lug HugeTits pretends to intelligence because she seems not to be smart enough to maintain a consistent pose at it.
Courtney Love is pretentious and was dumb even before her first dose.
And Andie MacDowell, who is in a class by herself because she tries to sound more intelligent than she is by aiming at an IQ of 100, when in reality she is a pleasant person whose quotient is about 80.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | May 5, 2020 5:33 PM |
Joan Crawford's Mid Atlantic was high camp. Is that + or -, I dunno. Bette could do any voice and accent, being well born. I disliked Katharine Hepburn because she never modulated Mainline / Bryn Mawr. It was pretty fucking tiresome and pretentious.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | May 5, 2020 5:33 PM |
Kanye owns this thread
by Anonymous | reply 139 | May 5, 2020 5:47 PM |
That braindead meathead Joe Rogan
by Anonymous | reply 140 | May 5, 2020 5:51 PM |
R5 Oh God, that was cringey and delicious. What a pretentious thinks-she-knows-it-all . Even in that revealing dress and clearly trying her hardest to be sexy, she just IS NOT SEXY. She is completely sexless.
by Anonymous | reply 141 | May 5, 2020 6:08 PM |
Joe and Mika are abie-normals.
by Anonymous | reply 142 | May 5, 2020 6:09 PM |
Julia Roberts.
by Anonymous | reply 143 | May 5, 2020 7:56 PM |
You think a high school valedictorian, [italic]magna cum laude[/italic] Harvard graduate, and a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford belongs here, R124?
by Anonymous | reply 144 | May 5, 2020 8:12 PM |
Meghan Markle
by Anonymous | reply 145 | May 5, 2020 8:13 PM |
Though the following are all dead, (Sorry, I'm old!) they most certainly deserve a mention. I'm not saying any of them are stupid, nor clever, yet their manner of speaking caused many to consider them great intelligences of their time. All of them frequently used a halting, or deliberate manner to their speech: long drawn out pauses, and I believe somewhat studied and false reflections on many things they previously said.
William F. Buckley Jr.
Gore Vidal
Robert Evans
by Anonymous | reply 146 | May 5, 2020 8:52 PM |
The Trumptard trolls who constantly trash Joe and Mika need to get a life.
by Anonymous | reply 147 | May 5, 2020 9:34 PM |
All Rhodes scholars are Rhodes scholars at Oxford, r144.
by Anonymous | reply 148 | May 5, 2020 9:37 PM |
Aaron Rodgers likes to try to sound deep but he just ends up sounding like a boring asshole.
by Anonymous | reply 149 | May 5, 2020 9:49 PM |
Kate Hudson. Homer Simpson in drag.
by Anonymous | reply 150 | May 6, 2020 12:07 AM |
Judy Davis
by Anonymous | reply 151 | May 6, 2020 12:29 AM |
Sean Lennon
by Anonymous | reply 152 | May 6, 2020 12:49 AM |
R148: I know that, Sherlock. Oxford was included for R124 to emphasize how baseless his/her comment was, because Buttigieg graduated with honors from [bold]two[/bold] prestigious universities.
by Anonymous | reply 153 | May 6, 2020 3:40 AM |
Elizabeth Holmes and a sociopathic assimilater to boot.
by Anonymous | reply 154 | May 6, 2020 3:47 AM |
You know who tries to sound more intelligent than they are? CELEBRITIES. You know who else tries to sound more intelligent than they are? EVERYBODY.
by Anonymous | reply 155 | May 6, 2020 3:55 AM |
America Ferrera
by Anonymous | reply 156 | May 6, 2020 5:13 AM |
Brie Larson.
by Anonymous | reply 157 | May 6, 2020 2:46 PM |
Jesse Eisenberg
by Anonymous | reply 158 | May 6, 2020 2:58 PM |
Armie Hammer. DUMB AS A ROCK.
by Anonymous | reply 159 | May 6, 2020 8:41 PM |
Krystal Ball owns this thread.
by Anonymous | reply 160 | May 6, 2020 8:44 PM |
Darren Criss
by Anonymous | reply 161 | May 6, 2020 8:44 PM |
ALTERNATE THEORY: Sometimes these people are incredibly intelligent but lack traditional formal education. So they search for bigger words to be more specific but they've never had the actual meanings confirmed or been corrected.
I watched an old interview with courtney love and she misused a few words and instead of thinking "what a moron" i realized i was watching a highly intelligent lady who had two intelligent parents but never finished high school.
by Anonymous | reply 162 | May 7, 2020 12:27 AM |
Andy Cohen
by Anonymous | reply 163 | May 7, 2020 2:28 AM |
Sadly, even some educators are questionable.
This elderly, smug, Blythe Danner lookalike Frau sent this video of herself jumping around to R.E.M. to students requesting a partially tuition refund due to COVID-19.
She is the DEAN of NYU Tisch.
by Anonymous | reply 164 | May 7, 2020 4:05 AM |
Don Lemon with his pregnant pauses before everything.
by Anonymous | reply 165 | May 7, 2020 6:00 AM |
Diana Ross
by Anonymous | reply 166 | May 7, 2020 6:02 AM |
He is not the only one that does that R165. Rachel Maddow has a way of halting that drives me crazy. I know it is used for dramatic effect, but it loses that when it is used over and over
by Anonymous | reply 167 | May 7, 2020 2:21 PM |
If, according to R37, someone like Oprah Winfrey -- who had a very successful, decades-spanning career in media and interviewed everyone from Elie Wiesel to Michelle Obama to the Dalai Lama -- is "dumb as an ashtray," what words do you use for people who actually do fit that desciption? If only all dumber-than-dirt people could be so high-functioning. I'm no fan of Winrey but at least I acknowledge her accomplishments .
by Anonymous | reply 168 | May 9, 2020 2:28 PM |
R168, that's true. It's better not to generalize the particular form of the case that Ms. Winfrey represents.
She is the type who thinks that because she had success in managing (or facilitating a professional team to develop and manage the brand) a career as a schmoozing, manipulative, "inspirational" and engaging television interviewer, she believed that her wealth somehow made her knowledgable about every subject in the world, and informed as an expert in every topic. She came to believe that she had a power and wisdom to lead "followers" into a better life.
In other words, she tried to sound more intelligent than she actually is, if intelligence includes prudence and self-awareness. And her attempts to convert social influence into pseudo-messianic messaging while raking in the dough also marks her as something more appalling than a mere overreacher.
Not that I think she has done as much harm as she might have. But she is ego-driven, not message- or truly mission-driven, and that shows something that appropriately runs against what most of us would call intelligence. It's called cunning.
by Anonymous | reply 169 | May 9, 2020 2:49 PM |
R169, you're overreaching because you dislike Oprah so much.
So yeah, she's not as brilliant as she thinks she is, and isn't an intellectual. That doesn't mean she isn't intelligent.
by Anonymous | reply 170 | May 9, 2020 5:21 PM |
Oprah Winfrey has her faults but she's obviously an intelligent woman.
by Anonymous | reply 171 | May 9, 2020 5:30 PM |
After reading many comments on DL for years this thread could apply to many posters here.
by Anonymous | reply 172 | May 14, 2020 5:37 AM |
Jenny McCarthy. Jesus Christ, she was never funny in the first place--men only laughed at her jokes because of her rack. And then, she tries to be an anti-vaxx expert with Joy Behar constantly telling her "oh, you're so cute!". Everything you do is dumb, Jenny. DUMB!
by Anonymous | reply 173 | May 14, 2020 5:47 AM |
Candace Cameron Bure
by Anonymous | reply 174 | May 14, 2020 5:55 AM |
Patti Smith
by Anonymous | reply 175 | May 14, 2020 6:20 AM |
Patricia Heaton. Yes, we get it, you are a Republican and you think abortion is the worst thing in the world. And it's impressive how you seem to milk that discussion for everything it's worth. Now go away.
by Anonymous | reply 176 | May 14, 2020 12:22 PM |
Years ago, Patricia Heaton got involved with campaigns/organizations that were against embryonic stem cell research and she bashed the late Christopher Reeve and Michael J. Fox in a couple of interviews which pissed off a lot of people with Parkinsons and spinal cord injuries. Heaton later apologized after appearing in some anti-stem cell research ad and it was clear the apology was just done to smooth things over with MJF. I don't think she ever gave some phony apology to Christopher and Dana Reeve's family.
by Anonymous | reply 177 | May 14, 2020 5:24 PM |
Okay now you all are just listing Republican cunts you hate.
by Anonymous | reply 178 | May 15, 2020 2:48 AM |
R177 MJF should have told her to fuck off.
by Anonymous | reply 179 | May 15, 2020 4:19 AM |
R178, are you new here? You can hate Patricia for being Republican AND because she thinks she's more intelligent than she really is. In fact, those two things may be interconnected.
by Anonymous | reply 180 | May 15, 2020 4:20 AM |
Shirley McLaine
by Anonymous | reply 181 | May 15, 2020 5:48 AM |
Darren Criss
by Anonymous | reply 182 | May 15, 2020 5:50 AM |
Leonardo DiCaprio
by Anonymous | reply 183 | May 19, 2020 4:07 AM |
WeavoncƩ oncƩ
by Anonymous | reply 184 | May 19, 2020 4:43 AM |
Jeremy Renner
by Anonymous | reply 185 | May 19, 2020 5:05 AM |
Courtney Love and Angelina Jolie are both highly intelligent. It comes with being a psychopath.
by Anonymous | reply 186 | May 19, 2020 5:36 AM |
Sarah Jessica Parker
by Anonymous | reply 187 | May 25, 2020 2:34 AM |
Jody Foster. She may have gone to a fancy school and all, but...
by Anonymous | reply 188 | May 25, 2020 5:29 AM |
It's Jodie!
by Anonymous | reply 189 | May 25, 2020 11:14 AM |
So basically, ALL of them?
by Anonymous | reply 190 | May 25, 2020 12:23 PM |
Demi Moore, sadly, because it's more lack of formal education than anything else.
I remember my mother watching an interview of hers, and exclaiming, "She's very intelligent." Mom was a math teacher and had a way picking out the smart ones, so there's that.
But, Moore's lack of education is staggering - just deciding to make that Scarlet Letter movie at all was inexplicable.
by Anonymous | reply 191 | May 25, 2020 12:48 PM |
R104, an Ivy League education doesn't mean what it used to.
They no longer admit only the best and brightest (although its arguable if they ever did what with money and legacy admissions). Now a days, Harvard and its ilk "curate" their incoming student body. It's like they are at a buffet, and they take a teaspoon of everything, rather than loading up on prime rib.
by Anonymous | reply 192 | May 25, 2020 12:59 PM |
Shia Labeouf pronouncing "epitome" owns this thread.
by Anonymous | reply 193 | May 25, 2020 1:12 PM |
Most anyone who attempts to over-intellectualize a topic ends up looking foolish, no matter what their level of expertise is. Don't attempt to get above your raising and people will take you more seriously. There's nothing wrong with just saying "I have no knowledge or expertise in that". People who can properly simplify a difficult topic so more people can understand it are always taken more seriously.
Celebrities are all to often in performance mode even if the cameras aren't trained on them, as long as there's someone around they can try and impress. I believe it's in their genetic makeup.
by Anonymous | reply 195 | May 25, 2020 2:06 PM |
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by Anonymous | reply 197 | May 25, 2020 2:09 PM |
I remember seeing CNN journalist Wolf Blitzer on an episode of celebrity Jeopardy. Does anyone remember that? I thought that he would win or at least score high but he couldnāt get any of the answers right and I say he tries to sound intelligent because he does sound intelligent when heās reading the news but when heās not in front of a news Teleprompter, he doesnāt really know shit.
by Anonymous | reply 198 | May 25, 2020 2:18 PM |
Most TV news people come off as morons when they're left to their own resources and don't have a script to read. Just listen to even the big guys when they're reporting on a major breaking story and haven't had time to have anything written for them. They can't even string 5 words together without uhing and ahing every other word. They sound like low grade morons.
by Anonymous | reply 199 | May 25, 2020 2:28 PM |
R198, didn't Wolf finish with like -$10,000? He was banished from final Jeopardy, which only happens to rare losers, retards, and sacks of shit.
by Anonymous | reply 200 | May 25, 2020 3:54 PM |
Go home, fat whores, I have the mother of all idiots to throw into the mix:
LeBron James
By defending China and saying his coach wasnāt educated when he spoke out against China and then having to apologize because he was too stupid to know about Chinaās human rights record. As well, he did not even know what an authoritarian government WAS because the NBA makes so much money from China and he wanted to protect his revenue stream.
He has a show called The Shop where he brings a bunch of celebrities together and they talk about life etc. Itās painfully, painfully obvious he knows nothing but the words ārevenue stream, income stream, branding opportunities, and strategizingā. He talks like a fucking Tony Robbins seminar. Itās embarrassing. Most sports figures arenāt too bright but James is a different league of stupid person who thinks heās smart. Heās a male version of Goop.
by Anonymous | reply 201 | May 25, 2020 4:39 PM |
Olivia Wilde. To be fair, she is genuinely intelligent, but she's also a little bit pretentious.
by Anonymous | reply 202 | May 25, 2020 5:24 PM |
R202 I agree with you.
by Anonymous | reply 203 | May 26, 2020 12:04 AM |
R10 The original Rocky is considered one of the greatest screenplays of all-time and is taught in film schools to this day, so I can see where he thought that he could've had a writing career.
by Anonymous | reply 204 | May 26, 2020 12:09 AM |
R164 Everything about this is baffling to me. What it a joke? Was it meant to be a comfort? What does it have to do with a tuition refund?
by Anonymous | reply 205 | May 26, 2020 12:21 AM |
Ivanka Trump owns this thread.
by Anonymous | reply 206 | May 26, 2020 12:23 AM |
Chris Evans.
by Anonymous | reply 207 | May 26, 2020 4:24 AM |
Mel Gibson.
by Anonymous | reply 208 | May 26, 2020 4:32 AM |
Ricky Martin. In his interviews he tries to sound like heās all New-Agey and spiritual but he never really makes sense.
by Anonymous | reply 209 | May 26, 2020 9:26 AM |
Lens Dunham. Years ago some publication was remembering some relevant anniversary pertaining to Sylvia Plath, so they solicited short essays from about a dozen folks to discuss Plath, her work, her impact, etc. 11 of them were literary critics, Plath scholars, or esteemed professors of the humanities. One of them was a pretentious cow, desperate to sound profound, but just ended up embarrassing herself instead. I wonder if the editor who decided to include her piece did it out of spite.
by Anonymous | reply 210 | May 26, 2020 10:26 AM |
Nicole Kidman
by Anonymous | reply 211 | May 26, 2020 10:39 AM |
Henry Cavill trying to correct someone and it bounced back and bitch slapped him.
by Anonymous | reply 212 | May 26, 2020 10:53 AM |
R212 "all white people look the same to me" š Thanks for posting.
by Anonymous | reply 213 | May 26, 2020 1:07 PM |
OPRAH is certainly of AVERAGE intelligence. Still she's EXTREMELY rich. She must have someone VERY clever investing her money all these years.
by Anonymous | reply 214 | May 26, 2020 1:35 PM |
R214 Its a shame she wouldn't get something done about her appalling feet.
by Anonymous | reply 215 | May 26, 2020 3:27 PM |
R215 is she worse than Ezra Miller??
by Anonymous | reply 216 | May 26, 2020 3:33 PM |
Oprah wears ladies size 10s...she said that she spent a lot of time forcing her feet into smaller shoes and it had a bad effect on her feet.
by Anonymous | reply 217 | May 26, 2020 3:36 PM |
Why are some posters here reluctant to admit that Oprah is smart? She can't be fabulously rich AND have a decent set of brains? The world would be quite a different place if all people of average intelligence (see R214's post) functioned in life like she did. And I'm speaking as someone who is quite indifferent to her
by Anonymous | reply 218 | May 26, 2020 4:01 PM |
R218, because it is much easier for some (*cough* R206 *cough*) to accept their lot in life, if they believe that successful people are successful only because of luck or dishonesty.
If they were forced to acknowledge that many successful people are successful because of an innate talent or skill or even the dint of hard work, then their own lives, which they have never learned to accept anyway, would be that much more horrible to them.
by Anonymous | reply 219 | May 26, 2020 9:47 PM |
Oprah is obviously quite intelligent, but because her mind and preferences and monumentally frau-ish and middlebrow, people with snobbish tendencies look down on her.
But they're the stupid ones, they don't realize that good taste and highbrow preferences are not actually an indicator of intelligence, they're just indicators of good taste! Intelligence doesn't necessarily equate with intellectual credentials or being cultured, never make that mistake when dealing with real people.
by Anonymous | reply 220 | May 26, 2020 11:41 PM |
You know who looked like a REAL dummy that guy from Knots Landing. Ted Shakelford.
by Anonymous | reply 221 | May 27, 2020 12:17 AM |
R188 WADR, Foster doesn't need to speak in elevated language, as she's naturally intelligent, and it's obvious to most. She probably just happens to be in possession of a much larger vocabulary than you're accustomed to seeing an actress use. Her French is impeccable for an American as well.
I DO happen to be a lover of lesbians, yet I'm confident I'm not guilty of bias here.
by Anonymous | reply 222 | May 27, 2020 2:03 AM |
No athlete should be allowed to say anything, unless it's sport related.
by Anonymous | reply 223 | May 27, 2020 4:04 PM |