Coronavirus Freakout 19: March MADNESS

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I think Donald Trump just blew my fucking mind in a very bad way.

R2 should be thread title for #20!

STOCKS PLUNGE!

Nasdaq worst day EVER

Dow & S&P worst since 1987 eldergays, what happened in 1987 that made stocks drop? I thought repubs always say the 80s were "our best economic years"?

UK now effectively locked down, although incompetent Boris basically it is just strong advice to "socially isolate" and avoid people as much as possible for 2 months.

R4 savings and loan institutions were defaulting on loans due to real estate bubble, IIRC

The stock market is wildly over reacting. No rush to buy, but when this appears settled there are some significant opportunities.

I wonder what all the greedy rich sector of repubs who voted for Trump simply out of economic interest will say now? The Dow is only 4,000 points above where it was when Obama left office after the last week of drops

🚬 Trump & Pence are the Cheech & Chong of the United States Government.

The Corona will "wash through" the country like a tsunami after an earthquake.

I've been thinking - maybe for those of us being laid-off or force to take unpaid leave, they can allow early withdrawal from 401K with any penalty or tax?

CNBC:

Dow plunges nearly 3,000 points as Trump says virus could drag on

Whoever is running these threads is sloppy and disorganized.

CLOSE OUT YOUR OLD THREAD before starting a new one. It takes 5 seconds.

Leading a thread series is not for the lazy and disorganized.

R7 what opportunities do you recommend?

Lets get this straight, Trump has never been a 10 or even close to a 10.

Enough r13 ! You can take your sorry attitude and stuff in a sock, Mister !

All things considered, that was definitely trumps best press conference. It seems two months later someone or something finally go thru to him the extent of how serious this is. I wonder what? Maybe Ivanka has it.

on Friday I overheard a deplorable boasting about how Trump "is a real leader and has gotten coronavirus under control" because the stock market rebounded from its huge Thursday drop

I'd love to see his reaction to today's collapse

R7 ....... If opportunity knocks, don't answer the door.

We're in the middle of a viral pandemic here.

USA: Corona time :(

Even Fox Host Knows Trump Robot is Lying

It’s really hard to believe that china’s numbers are legitimate. I think they definitely are on a downward trend (all the hospitals are clearing out) but I don’t buy they only had 80k cases and 3k deaths. Either all of the predictions of how bad this is gonna be are way off or China is lying.

When it’s all over the world needs to band together to hold China accountable.

🙁 So much for my dream of coming to America.

I dropped off my ballot today. The workers were all older people and in a good mood. They had hand sanitizer available.

WOW! This is huge!

CNN- Nearly seven million people living in a wide swath of Northern California, including Silicon Valley, are being ordered to shelter in place starting at midnight on Monday.

Along with San Francisco, which previously announced its order, residents in San Mateo, Santa Clara, Marin, Alameda, and Contra Costa counties, along with the city of Berkeley are being required to stay home, according to an order from health officials in those jurisdictions.

“This decision is exponentially difficult,” Santa Clara County Health Officer Sara Cody said, but added that a regional approach is necessary. “We know we need to do this.”

Health services, grocery stores, gas stations, banks, and food delivery services will remain open. Mass transit will stay open, but it is only to be used for travel to and from essential services.

R20? Thanks for the data. I'll bookmark that site.

The entire United States is slowly grinding to a halt. The economic implications are unfathomable, even if only for a few weeks. Dark days ahead for the US and the world

Wow, USA cases just increased by 37 in 9 minutes!

4371 cases / 77 deaths now

R25 On, great. There will be a mad rush at the store again tonight.

My friends in the Bay Area are freaking the fuck out

This is WWIII!

Those cruise line ships should dock in SF Bay and the homeless should be allowed to live there.

I hope that this country would just outright pause everything and everyone, even if it's not happening in that state yet (ventilators can be moved from districts, possibly state lines to areas that aren't having large outbreaks and used where most needed).

Two weeks two late but still within the realm of possibility of management.

So in essence, Plague Ships, r32

OP and others: you should pack a go-bag now, when you’re healthy. I’m not kidding, if you get sick, you’ll have about a day to get your affairs in order.

I was quarantined once. What I really wanted were socks and underwear. So, I’ll pack my go-bag or bug-out bag tomorrow. My go-bag will have socks and underwear. Mobile devices & charge cords. An extra set of house keys, maybe? What else.

Be serious. You might be in the hospital for a while and you’ll stink; and be bored.

^ oh dearing myself for not proofing before posting.

The most dangerous thing is panic. Please everyone take a deep breath.

I’ll add a grammar book to my go-bagl Mon Dieu!

[quote] The most dangerous thing is panic. Please everyone take a deep breath.

I can't take a deep breath. Oh, shit! I HAVE THE CORONAVIRUS!

R37. Fuck that! Every queen for herself!

French President Emmanuel Macron announced drastic measures, prohibiting gatherings across France, including family and other social gatherings.

The second round of the French elections will be also postponed, Macron said.

Earlier today, the city of Paris announced the closure of all public parks and gardens.

Macron said the country is “in a war” against the coronavirus outbreak.

“We are in a war… that’s why I decided that all reforms debated in parliament will be suspended,” he said. The government will draft a new legislation to face the crisis.

A new military hospital will be deployed to reduce hospital congestion, Macron said.

(How are they going to enforce a ban on family gatherings? Have the military knock on doors monitoring how many people are in the house?)

a doctor on CNN now is saying he expects the government to implement incremental closings of our society. He said it wouldn't be palatable if everything got closed at once so doing it in stages makes it easier to digest

Does anybody really believe this pandemic isn't changing life forever?

I can't seem to stop touching my face! I'm at home and washing my hands frequently. Maybe I always did it but now I'm more aware. It feels so good to scratch, too. Did anyone say anything about not scratching? Should I wash my hands after every scratch? I'm already spending most of my day washing and sanitizing! Aarrghhh!!!

OH governor is delaying tomorrow’s primary. The other states will have to call theirs off too (FL, IL and AZ.)

R43

Wait until mid April. Life will be unrecognizable.

[quote] How are they going to enforce a ban on family gatherings?

Those morons have picnics in the park during a pandemic. This is now banned and will be apparently fined. You're also supposed to print a piece of paper to justify what you're doing outside starting tomorrow at noon including walking your dog, if you don't have it on you and get controlled by the Police you'll be fined. This is going to be insane. Evidently they're doing this to make the mouth breathers and kids realize it's serious.

So anyone not feeling well is urged to stay home from work. What happens when those employees calling in sick are nurses? Who takes care of all the CV patients then?

r44....get a grip.

R43: Does anybody really believe this pandemic isn't changing life forever?

The CDC said on Feb 25 that we will have to get used to a new way of living.

I bought a lot of food then. I will be bummed if it only means I get a place in the hospital basement hallway later, instead of a first class place if I were sick now.

Anybody know if the cruise ship that has been floating around for the past few days find a place to dock yet?

The Navy reported several cases among servicemen. Keep bringing those vacationers onto military bases. Sorry, but once those cruise ships unload passengers, the area is doomed.

Life will change forever for the thousands that are going to die.

Another question: how is imposing an 10pm-5am curfew supposed to help control this epidemic?

Spanish football coach dies of coronavirus aged just 21 after leukaemia battle.

Some are saying leukemia, so not sure what exactly he was diagnosed with before covid19.

Did I hear correctly that the illness rate is 40%? What percent are so sick that they need a hospital?

Kudos to DL! Many of us saw this shit coming. We freaked out together, shared tips for keeping safe, stockpiled like a MOFO and kept up with the developments around the world while are family and friends laughed at us. Many of us saw the writing on the wall. And now the panic and shutdowns are slowing spreading. Enjoy your Carrie-esque moment and wash your damn hands! Keep freaking!

😤 If I start deep breathing, I'll probably start to hyperventilate.

Put slippers in the go-bag. Those floors are going to be filthy.

[quote]Another question: how is imposing an 10pm-5am curfew supposed to help control this epidemic?

It isn't. But every hour contact between people is limited is an hour that contributes toward control of spread.

They're trying to allow the health care system to function as best as possible.

R54 Immunosuppressed people are at high risk for dying of COVID-19.

the reason for all the restrictions is not to stop the virus but to spread the virus out so it doesn't hit all at once. If it did a lot of people wouldn't be able to be treated.

Our largest local mall has just announced that it will close @ 6:00pm today, and will remain so until further notice.

The mall NEVER closes.

Macron is also ordering all French citizens to stay home.

Can we get an exact breakdown of the onset and then symptoms? Please be as specific as possible. So much junk out there it’s hard to even google.

Wow the Northern CA lockdown is no joke - not even allowed outside! But also what Italy and China did. Understandable and I support. But I do want the ability to walk around the block to exercise and get fresh air - I rarely see anyone when I do.

R64 Fever, coughing, sore throat, fatigue and shortness of breath.

R51, is this the cruise ship you're asking about? I heard it left the area today but I don't remember where it's headed.

I'm in the North Bay and we have three passengers in isolation in one of our hospitals. I guess they spread them around.

😻 I Love You Bitches, Every Last One Of You !

R64... Harvard Medical's page is reliable, in my view/

R56 here. Meant to write our family and friends not are lol. Typo!

I wish people would stop called self-isolation "quarantine." It's not the same thing.

Here's the update on the virus ship. It's left Oakland and headed to a spot in the middle of the SF Bay. It didn't go far. I'm not sure how many people are still on the ship, haven't read the whole article.

I wish we could edit our posts. Here's who is still on board, "The troubled ship will anchor in the bay for two weeks, with 75 medical workers brought on board to care for the 340 crew members and six foreign passengers during the 14-day quarantine, Gov. Gavin Newsom said Sunday."

My boss is acting like we will back in the office the first week of April. Um yeah not so sure about that.

My state has now canceled school and all extra curricular activities statewide until April 6th.

Trump Tried Denying Coronavirus Vaccine to Other Countries

A colleague of mine told me today that he knows owner of a construction company in Canada who told his staff today "Take all your sick leave, take all your holidays, and after that, you're not coming back."

this is the transatlantic plague ship that was trying to find a place to dock.

finally cuba might agree to take it in. not sure what they will do will passengers.

the one last week that docked in miami let thousands off without testing them to go their merry way

I can’t believe these idiots were stupid enough to get on a cruise ship in the first place.

Holy shit R78!

Hope you bitches have 6 weeks of food in the house. Shit is getting real. If you can manage it stock up on booze & pot too. Don’t forget supplies for your pets! It’s gonna be a long stretch, We may need threads about cute pets and other diversions to keep us sane.

[quote] Trump Tried Denying Coronavirus Vaccine to Other Countries

Huh? There’s a vaccine?

All of this starts as soon, as I was going to start hitting the gym, and volunteering at the food kitchen. Gosh darn it!!

I definitely noticed a difference in people's attitudes when I went to the supermarket today, opposed to just before the panic but still public knowledge that things would be changing.

People seemed crankier, more suspicious of others. I ate some peanuts before I went in, and some little bits were stuck in the back of my throat, causing me to cough. You would have thought i declared i had a suicide vest on, people scattered away so fast.

Surprised at how many items were on sale, so I stocked up on chips and other junk food LOL. I just lost 20 lbs but that's all gonna come back now.

Funnily, I found people somewhat friendlier when I was out walking the dog. No visiting but smiling and nodding that we didn't do before.

⏳ CORONA TIME 6:30PM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 182,212

DEATHS: 7,140

CRITICAL: 6,612

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 4,570

DEATHS: 86

CRITICAL: 12?

In times like this, I'm grateful to live in rural flyoverland.

Clearwater Beach, Florida is PACKED today despite "social distancing" recommendations.

Why is the mall remaining open?

R81 You are allowed outside for the necessary trips like food shopping, though even stores might switch to delivery only. Essential services will still be available so some workers will still have to keep working (though if they call in sick or just not show up, who knows what will happen?).

in nyc, it's a bit like the aftermath of 9/11, melancholy but a generosity of spirit

Stock futures up a little...

This sucks

don't get excited, shitgibbon will open his stupid mouth again and it'll go down

No shit, Sherlock.

For me, this is worse than 9/11.

the difference between 9-11 and this is that some people could not relate to 9-11 because they were elsewhere in the country and they didn't feel that it really affected them. This is everywhere in the country so everyone can relate. we can also relate to everyone in the world right now.

R81, here's my 17yo girl in her Thundershirt awaiting her rations this afternoon.

She has a 50 day supply of NSAID, nerve blockers, Lasix, heart pill, Apoquel, four months worth of PRN Tramadol, ten bottles of artificial tears and a Thundershirt and she'll be goddamned if Coronavirus is going to be the end of her.

R88 - same with South Padre Island. Business as usual. They refuse to cancel events. Ideal breeding grounds for transmission. I don’t blame young and dumb college students. I blame greedy business owners and the politicians who cater to them in these small towns. These aren’t the average hourly workers who are being affected - as they are all one week temps. It’s the owners of the venues and hotels. Miami cancelled it.

I suspect that other than NYC, Florida will be hit the hardest. So many old people, deplorables, and trashy red necks who are all filthy. If warm weather is irrelevant to the virus then expect Florida to be decimated

R98 Thanks for sharing that. Can she be our mascot/warrior queen?

R100.

Ivanka was at the fundraiser along with Jared, and her older brothers. She's quarantined herself, and we've not heard a word since. Nor anything about her brothers.

And you can bet they were ALL tested, including the Slovenian Bee Keeper.

Testing is such bullshit in France, too. Numbers are terribly underestimated. A friend who is a primary care doctor and had all symptoms of Covid had to push for 2 days to get tested.

Madre de Diós, what will become of us ?

❤️ U, R98 !

There was a hilariously campy GP on a UK radio phone in show just now. When a queeny old guy asked about going to the gym she said “There’s an awful lot of touching going on at the gym.”

No one has figured out if temperature matters. Worst impacts so far have been roughly northern latitudes. But clearly warmer climes aren’t immune. If only we had actual tests and data.

So adorable, r98! What's her name?!

Q: How would you rate your response to the coronavirus on a scale of 1 to 10?

President Trump: "I would rate it a 10."

CNN-Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson have left the hospital after coronavirus diagnosis

Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson have left the hospital and are now self-quarantined at their residence in Australia as they continue to recover from novel coronavirus, Leslee Dart, a representative for Hanks, told CNN in a statement.

Hanks and Wilson announced they were diagnosed with COVID-19 and had been been hospitalized in isolation since last Thursday. They shared periodic updates on their illness and recovery on social media over the weekend.

The two were originally in Australia for pre-production on a film about Elvis Presley, in which Hanks is set to play Presley's manager.

CNN-Los Angeles County Sheriff releases inmates early due to coronavirus concerns

They have reduced the population of jails by releasing inmates with less than 30 days left of their sentence. On February 28, when the county first started taking actions, they had 17,076 people in custody. As of Monday, they have 16,459 people, Villanueva said.

The number of arrests have been reduced from an average of 300 per day throughout Los Angeles County to about 60 arrests a day, Villanueva said. There have been no confirmed cases of coronavirus in the county jails, he said.

CNN-Arizona's primary election will go on as planned Tuesday

WaPo article about Fox changing its reporting on the virus.

CNN-Minnesota orders temporary closures of restaurants, bars and other public places

The order goes into effect Tuesday at 5 p.m. local time until March 27.

SNL suspends production.

LVMH stops manufacturing fragrances to make free hand sanitizer

R50

People following the massive upheaval and disruption in Italy, Iran, and China got pilloried for reporting the facts.

We’ve all warned our friends and family. Our job is done. Now it is take care of immediate family.

I’ve even invited my estranged brother and his SIX children to move in with me. He is hesitant, but his family can’t survive without supplies for more than 30 days. Mom and dad are here, 5 other family members want to park RVs this week.

Best of all, while the grandchildren get to live INSIDE the house, while their parents have to stay in the motor home😉😉😉

My brother and his wife have been horrible to me for 15 years. I’ve spent less than 24 hours with my nieces and nephews, in toto, during that time. But, in this case, I’ll reconcile so he doesn’t die.

Went out today in Manhattan, there were many people out, shopping for groceries and virus related items. many kids were out with friends. most store employees were wearing gloves. many people wearing masks.

not much traffic on the streets on park ave mid town around 6pm, I could cross the street anytime I wanted no need to look at the lights. streets are not jam packed with people like usual.

many shops were closed and many stores are closing early.

COVID-19 basics:

What are the symptoms of COVID-19?

Some people infected with the virus have no symptoms. When the virus does cause symptoms, common ones include low-grade fever, body aches, coughing, nasal congestion, runny nose, and sore throat. However, COVID-19 can occasionally cause more severe symptoms like high fever, severe cough, and shortness of breath, which often indicates pneumonia.

How long is it between when a person is exposed to the virus and when they start showing symptoms?

Because this coronavirus has just been discovered, the time from exposure to symptom onset (known as the incubation period) for most people has yet to be determined. Based on current information, symptoms could appear as soon as three days after exposure to as long as 13 days later. Recently published research found that on average, the incubation period is about five days.

How does coronavirus spread?

The coronavirus is thought to spread mainly from person to person. This can happen between people who are in close contact with one another. Droplets that are produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes may land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby, or possibly be inhaled into their lungs.

Coronavirus can also spread from contact with infected surfaces or objects. For example, a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes.

How deadly is COVID-19?

The answer depends on whether you're looking at the fatality rate (the risk of death among those who are infected) or the total number of deaths. So far, influenza has caused far more deaths this flu season, both in the US and worldwide, than COVID-19. This is why you may have heard it said that the flu is a bigger threat.

Regarding the fatality rate, it appears that the risk of death with the pandemic coronavirus infection (commonly estimated at 3% to 4%) is less than it was for SARS (approximately 11%) and MERS (about 35%), but may be higher than the risk from seasonal flu (which averages about 0.1%).

However, the numbers circulating right now for this new coronavirus are likely to be adjusted over time, as more people are tested and reporting becomes more consistent.

(Via Harvard link upthread)

Who is at highest risk for getting very sick from COVID-19?

Older people, especially those with underlying medical problems like chronic bronchitis, emphysema, heart failure, or diabetes, are more likely to develop serious illness.

In addition, several underlying medical conditions may increase the risk of serious COVID-19 for individuals of any age. These include:

blood disorders, such as sickle cell disease, or taking blood thinners chronic kidney disease chronic liver disease, including cirrhosis and chronic hepatitis any condition or treatment that weakens the immune response (cancer, cancer treatment, organ or bone marrow transplant, immunosuppressant medications, HIV or AIDS) current or recent pregnancy in the last two weeks diabetes inherited metabolic disorders and mitochondrial disorders heart disease, including coronary artery disease, congenital heart disease, and heart failure lung disease, including asthma, COPD (chronic bronchitis or emphysema) neurological and neurologic and neurodevelopment conditions such as cerebral palsy, epilepsy (seizure disorders), stroke, intellectual disability, moderate to severe developmental delay, muscular dystrophy, or spinal cord injury. Are kids immune to the virus that causes COVID-19?

Children, including very young children, can develop COVID-19. However, children tend to experience milder symptoms such as fever, runny nose, and cough. Some children have had severe complications, but this has been less common. Children with underlying health conditions may be at increased risk for severe illness.

Will warm weather stop the outbreak of COVID-19?

Some viruses, like the common cold and flu, spread more when the weather is colder. But it is still possible to become sick with these viruses during warmer months. At this time, we do not know whether the spread of COVID-19 will decrease when the weather warms up.

Now we have some comprehensive information ^.

That being said, it seems that sinus issues can be a symptom.

Isn’t that a huge change from the initial list of symptoms?

Pennsylvania is shutting down all but essential devices.

A new normal...

I feel like I struck a goldmine. Frustrated I have been unable to find sanitizing products since last week and down to one bottle of hand sanitizer, I dug deep into the closet and boxes. I found THREE family size bottles of hand sanitizer AND a mask! Must have stocked up from the days when I would rent a car to make Target runs. Also had many bottles of dish soap. I completely forgot them because I know for awhile now I have been buying those items as needed.

Whew, like winning the lottery. I putting 2 bottles on Ebay and retiring on the profit.

Check the expiration date R124.

I just felt a flicker of jealousy over R124....

You just know one of those cashiers at the stores, supermarkets will be positive...

and not to mention the delivery people, they come into contact with so many people.

Stay safe people! scary times.

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump · 50m The United States will be powerfully supporting those industries, like Airlines and others, that are particularly affected by the Chinese Virus. We will be stronger than ever before!

Amy and another senator to introduce bill to provide for mail in voting (among other improvements) to deliver the national election in November.

"The best way to ensure that this virus doesn’t keep people from the ballot box is to bring the ballot box to them. We must allow every American the ability to vote by mail. And we must expand early voting so that voters who are not able to vote by mail are not exposed to the elevated infection risks of long lines and crowded polling locations.

On Monday, we will introduce the Natural Disaster and Emergency Ballot Act of 2020 to help election officials meet this pandemic head-on. Our legislation will guarantee every voter a secure mail-in paper ballot and help states cover the cost of printing, self-sealing envelopes, ballot tracking and postage. Vote-by-mail is a time-tested, reliable way for Americans to exercise their constitutional rights, and it is the right response to this crisis."

As a rule, I loathe reporters. But admire the bravery of those reporting.

I wish Blitzer and John King would dial down the drama sell. Then again, Blitzer hams it up every day. He's Bernie Sanders with a slightly hoarser voice and a slightly better suits.

Be nice to cashiers, they are the profession most likely to be infected, nurses are second

also, cash bills are likely covered with virus.

use auto check out, or better yet order online and have delivered, just wipe down pkgs, when delivered.

Sinus issues involve a wet cough with mucous.

The Corona cough is a dry cough.

I haven't left the house in two days. Feels fucking great.

I'm picking up prescriptions tomorrow, and extra cat food and litter. I'm good with everything else. Once I'm home, I'm not leaving unless there's a crisis of major proportions.

I should probably get some ice cream, too. And Easter Candy.

The numbers of ill and dead people must be higher than what has been reported. This massive freak out wouldn't be happening otherwise. I wonder if the info is being withheld to prevent mass bedlam.

If you need prescriptions, CVS is delivering them for free.

Everything here will be shut down by midnight tonight except gas stations, pharmacies, and grocery stores. It's going to feel very eerie out there. Is it even going to be safe? And I'm not talking Corona here.

Thank you, Mr. Trump, for your top rated #10 timely response to the Democratic hoax. I know you're a freaking genius be cause you told us so!

I stocked up on a month’s supply of dog food and enough food to fill my freezer, fridge and pantry. My mom is with me and we will hopefully be able to make this last. No boredom munchies or this shit will be gone in two weeks! I’m not leaving the house again unless it’s an emergency.

I remember Y2K and how my mom stocked a closet with supplies...we used it up so fast - we’d have been dead in a month. 😂 Hopefully, I learned from that!

What’s horrible am that is we DONT see a lot of deaths people will say it was unnecessary - as opposed to “we did it”.. regardless Trump will take credit but not blame.

[italic] Everybody Hates Donald !

you won't be disappointed, we're on the same trajectory as italy, and they don't have enough crematoriums to process the dead, coffins are stacking up.

Responding to the Kaletra discussion from the last thread:

At the beginning (maybe the third thread!) it was thought that liponovir/ritonivir would be an effective treatment because the virus has a protease tail. However, today I heard that in vitro testing has shown that it is unlikely that the safe dosage in humans would reach therapeutic efficacy. (I hope I haven’t mangled that too badly given my lay person status.) Anyway that is a major bummer and super disappointing.

So, just suggesting that when you're delivering major bummer news in these circumstance that your sourcing clears a higher bar than 'today I heard.' Seriously.

My very Italian grandfather, who came to the US from Calabria, used to tell my mom, "Don't waste money when I die, just bury me in a spaghetti box."

Who knew?

I found these beautiful words online, by someone named Catherine "Kitty" O'Meara.

"And then the people stayed home. And they read books, they listened listened, and rested, and exercised, and made art, and played games, and learned new ways of being, and were still. And listened more deeply. Some meditated, some prayed, some danced. Some met their shadows. And the people began to think differently.

And the people healed. And, in the absence of people living in ignorant, dangerous, mindless, and heartless ways, the Earth began to heal.

And when the danger passed, and the people joined together again, they grieved their losses, and made new choices, and dreamed new images, and created new ways to live and heal the Earth fully, as they had been healed."

Also from what I remember from the 87 crash was that it didn’t impact poor people until mid 1989. It was kind of trickle down. This seems much more based on the collapse of the actual economy in real times as opposed to the collapse of a bubble in the Economy that then eventually leads to recession.

Why is it refereed to as the NOVEL Corona Virus? What's NOVEL about it?

r145 I think Miss Kitty is living in a dream world.

The people are going to panic, fight, blame, and destroy.

This is what most humans are, unfortunately.

R145 and unicorns flew out of their asses

r147 NOVEL meaning, "new".

That should be in real time, not in real times.

R143 I am an anonymous stranger on a message board and you are absolutely right to be skeptical about my sourcing. And a lot of my sourcing is verbal so yeah I am not going to be able to confirm it for you now. I am not insulted in the least if you don’t believe me.

It isn't so much that I don't believe you, Elder Lez. I think you are well intentioned, lately and previously. But the strongest of us here are very troubled at present. I just think if you're going to undercut hope you don't do it lightly. And to me, lightly, is I heard. I leave it to you to decide if there's anything to that idea.

I am on immunosuppressants, my wife is over sixty and one of my staff is likely infected, so no I don’t take this lightly.

HARVARD:

“...nasal congestion, runny nose...”

The Harvard reference above was relating to those who suffer mild coronavirus.

The three main and consistent symptoms are fever and cough, most common, and difficulty breathing next.

Mild symptoms, especially like a common cold, are more likely that than the other. But the point is if you have any respiratory symptoms these days stray the hell home and away from others as much as you can.

Here we go, Dallas starts the lock down.

R145..

And they...stayed in their cell phones for hours a day, as many as 12. Pickups went up in the thousands.

They slowly fried their brains and became drooling zombies, click, scroll, click, scroll....

R153, Elderlez, I have in my liquor cabinet, a n unopened bottle of 25 year Glenlivet. I'm putting your name on it.

When we have lived through this, and we will, I hope you consider accepting it from me. You have helped so many here. You are a kind and steady voice, and it's much appreciated. Thank you for sharing your time and your knowledge.

Cheers!

🤠 Welcome to DataLounge, Ms. EderLez.

Be assured, and take comfort ........ we're not all cunty bitches.

🚘 Enjoy the Ride!

R84 Coughing is the new MAGA hat.

'UK now effectively locked down, although incompetent Boris basically it is just strong advice to "socially isolate" and avoid people as much as possible for 2 months.'

The UK is not locked down at all.

Boris has suggested people keep away from theatres and restaurants but the West End theatres only just took their own decision to close. All music venues are still open, as are huge nightclubs with 2k capacity. All bars and pubs and restaurants are still open, as are unis, colleges and schools. The proposed four month isolation for seniors has not been put in place. The Uk hasn't banned any flights from infected countries either.

It's St Patricks Day tomorrow and the pubs will be full of revellers countrywide. Brits can also still fly off to wherever will have them. Friends of mine just left for two weeks in the Maldives.

In a week, the cases here have soared from 319 with 3 deaths to 1550 with 54 deaths.

Oh Dr. Jack I’ve been here since 1997. I may be a cunty bitch myself. R158 that is so kind of you!!!

Sorry about the grammatical error above, Ms. ElderLez. May I call you Ms. ?

It must be those pesky cataracts, scheduled to be removed next month. I can kiss that dream good bye indefinitely.

Those of you that have ibuprofen be careful. Read an article that ibuprofen might aggravate the coronavirus. Since I can't link to CNN I'll link to people. It is up for debate whether it does, but I would use caution

ElderLez isn’t in “recovery” like most old lesbians?

R101, she'd be honored. R109, thanks, she came to me with the name Cory.

(& thanks all 💜)

R128 The “CHINESE virus”!!

I live in NYC and can’t help but wonder if, by late next month, my block becomes like that film Testament where it was commonplace to see body bags carried out of buildings at a regular clip. Or, if the number of deaths accelerate, just read about it here and on Twitter. What psychological damage would this do to kids?

🌹I may be just a kid, but I'm finding ElderLez quite fascinating.

I think Dr. Jack might be developing a crush.

R167 China is almost done with this virus. Just 1 new case in Wuhan for 3/16. Trump can have it.

R167, can we just start calling it the Trump virus?

R168, I think it’ll do worse damage to adults. Kids are resilient if their own family has some stability.

we'll be lucky if there's anyone around to carry out the bodies. it italy, they're just rotting in the apartments

^ the army/national guard.

It won’t be body bags out of buildings. The numbers in worst case wouldn’t result in that.

Can we start new threads to get away from this irritating Elder Lez chat? It's really slowing down the thread and it's stupid and irrelevant, not funny at all.

ha, you live with your fantasy. look at italy, that's us in two weeks

My redneck deplorable neighbors have already started fighting with their kids and spouses. I can hear them screaming at each other on the street behind me. I don't know what will happen if these assholes have to spend days on end with their families all in the same house at the same time.

As always, I'll keep my doors and gate locked and my gun handy.

In our time of global crisis, everyone is welcome here.

Unless your not, R176

I love her, R98. And you, for being such a good caretaker. We need more of both of you.

Watching the ABC 2020 coronavirus special tonight, and whoever is in charge of lighting should be reprimanded. David Tyler looks less than his usual perfection.

I know this is an awful situation, but I feel a strange sense of comfort that so many of us across the world are all in the same situation.

Speaking of freakout, Don Lemon on CNN just needs to shut the fuck up. He is not presenting news. He is adding a hysterical slant to everything. Yes, the situation is serious. But cut the drama bullshit and report useful information. Stop trying to endlessly paint some dire picture that the world is nearing the end.

Where have ya gone Walter Cronkite?

He's like Blitzer... totally hamming it up at the wrong time.

R183 Lemon’s always been a drama queen.

So now Ohio’s primary is off again:

[quote]BREAKING: @OHdeptofhealth director @DrAmyActon orders Ohio polls closed tomorrow "as a health emergency"

“health emergency” in OH but FL, IL and AZ not so much.

[quote]David Tyler looks less than his usual perfection.

You mean David Muir. And his makeup is TERRIBLE too.

In SF. The shelter in place is to stop the spread of the virus because they know it will get better bad without a serious intervention. Young people and children are the vectors of disease and must do their part to stay home.

On the previous thread, someone said we have a vaccine for the flu. That is not true. Flu shots are only 50% in efficacy. Hoping for the best. Stay alert.

At what point does avoiding the worst case scenario become no longer worth the cost? If the restrictions we’ve seen imposed in the last week are maintained for months, there will be no coming back from it economically. Displacement of millions, riots, famine, and worse will be real possibilities, and when does preventing that kind of human wreckage take priority?

^^Good point.

It’s only for a few weeks. I think you will survive.

This is just day one and I am already overwhelmed by the social isolation. I cannot fathom being unable to go to the gym or dinner or brunch or a movie or a concert indefinitely. I don't think I can do this.

Pray for me and forgive me...

How do you figure, r189, no coming back from it economically? Can’t the “job-creating 1%” just hire all those people back, start all the factories & businesses right up, and away we go?

Crazy that we can’t exist like people did for centuries. And we even have the internet. Now have we become so dependent on getting and spending that being at home for a few weeks is the end of the world. This capitalism shit needs to end.

Everyone who pretended to be working in Starbucks can now do this at home. Be creative! Imagine your own wealth!

People are now bringing up loneliness and mental wellness due to self-isolation... I've been dealing with loneliness and depression for years. But like everything else, people only start care about something when it may potentially affect themselves.

It shouldn't make me feel bad, I shouldn't let it make me feel bad, but it does. 😔

[quote] I don't think I can do this. Pray for me and forgive me...

I WILL pray for you, but I can never forgive you for being such an entitled wuss after just one day.

David Pakman:

Idiots & Bad People Are DESTROYING US

r196, feel connected to the rest of us. We are all in this together.

I don't know if this was in the other thread but it's a message from Italy about the advice they would have given themselves just 10 days ago. It's not alarming and I think it's a must view, especially for people who can't grasp the concept of just staying home.

R193, consumer spending is what fuels the economy and ultimately gives the 1% their wealth. When consumers go, they go, too.

[quote]At what point does avoiding the worst case scenario become no longer worth the cost?

I think the point is that if you clamp down and quarantine for a couple of weeks you can ‘flatten the curve’ and avoid overwhelming hospitals with a huge influx of critically ill patients. Spread it out over time.

Marco Rubio is definitely one of us.

[quote]Most of the cast of Germany's edition of Big Brother have been in the house since February 6 and have not yet been told about the coronavirus pandemic

R200 - thanks. Good reminder. I’ve been really strict about staying home. But really want to take a flight this weekend to go stay with my boyfriend for the next 3 weeks. I’ve been super good - so may reward myself with 3 hours on a plane - that looks like will only have about 15 people on it rn. If I get sick, I’d want him to take care of me and vice versa.

Many studios including ABC, CBS, & NBC are working with skeleton crews, due to illness. Flattering facial lighting isn't a top priority at the moment. David doesn't care. He'd rather alive .

I called my dentist today to cancel my appointment tomorrow because of a runny nose and coughing. Shockingly they said they are OK as they have mask and gloves. I'm worried about them infecting me and they are assuring me I will not infect them. Strange times we live in.

⏳ CORONA TIME

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 182,605

DEATHS: 7,171

CRITICAL: 6,163

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 4,708

DEATHS: 91

CRITICAL: 12 ?

NEW: NYPD just told all its cops how they should enforce the mayor’s bar and restaurant ban beginning at 8 p.m. tonight. - Refusing to leave = disorderly conduct summons - Patrons who refuse to leave: face arrest:

DC Mayor says any restaurant or bar that refuses to close will have their business license revoked.

Wine & Spirits Stores in Pennsylvania are also closing for at least two weeks at the end of business today.

EEK !

[quote]Flattering facial lighting isn't a top priority at the moment. David doesn't care.

Wait, I thought he was gay.

[quote]The world’s largest gun store, in metro Atlanta, has had lines that are six and eight people deep. A gun store in Los Angeles had lines that stretched down the block. And at least one store in Idaho put limits on sales after its shelves were nearly cleared out.

[quote]Just as grocery stores have been stripped bare by Americans panicked by coronavirus, guns and ammunition have started flying off the shelves. Retailers say the buying frenzy is being fueled by consumers who are worried that people are becoming so desperate and unpredictable, they need to ensure they can protect themselves.

[quote]”It’s been insane,” said Jay Wallace, who owns Adventure Outdoors in Smyrna, Georgia, adding that his ammunition sales are up more than five times the usual numbers. “This is like a Rod Serling ‘Twilight Zone’ episode.”

It’s like an episode of The Walking Dead.

🤭 It's a GLOBAL crisis, r211, not a GAY Crisis.

If QVC in West Chester PA has to shut down, what will savvy gay shoppers and their mothers do?

R212, I knew from the start, Americans were going to fight this virus with guns. Guns is the American answer to everything.

R212

People know that desperate people will do anything. They are buying guns to protect themselves from those desperate individuals.

I bet Donnie Jr. And Eric are already Locked & Loaded.

[quote]People know that desperate people will do anything.

What would people be desperate about? Being jobless and broke maybe but those people aren’t going to start forming mobs and rioting and breaking into homes, are they?

R218

Are you stupid?

Of course they will begin robbing vulnerable neighbors.

Special federal relief now on table 4 following industries:

-- Casinos

-- Cruiselines

-- Airlines

-- Hotels

-- Oil & gas (enacted)

The next congressional package -- on which work began today -- will be where all this is expected to be fought out.

How do we feel about our tax dollars going to bail out casinos and cruise lines?

An automatic weapon is my gun of choice.

I've seen enough science fiction movies to know this for a fact.

People realize guns are MOST likely to be used for a) suicide and b) domestic violence? And let’s see, what are the chance that those could happen in a time of desperation and being stuck in a small space with your wife? Idiots all - let them kill themselves.

Marco still didn't get it right, r203. He corrected marshall to maRital.

Damn.

[quote] Hope you bitches have 6 weeks of food in the house. Shit is getting real. If you can manage it stock up on booze & pot too. Don’t forget supplies for your pets! It’s gonna be a long stretch, We may need threads about cute pets and other diversions to keep us sane.

I hate shit like this. How does this help? And what if people DON'T have six weeks worth of food in the house (because many, many people do not and are unable to stock that much). Are they just gonna die? But it doesn't matter, because this smug asshole is all set.

Dumb fucking post.

[quote]Wine & Spirits Stores in Pennsylvania are also closing for at least two weeks at the end of business today.

Now that is the limit!!

Bitches if you CAN get six weeks of stuff, you should do so. Poorer individuals, seek out inexpensive staples such as a few 5lb bags of rice, dried beans/chickpeas,_several_ cans of (cheap!) tomato sauce & cans of tomato paste, pasta, egg noodles, eggs, chili flakes, boullion, garlic salt, regular salt, cinnamon, oil, possibly a small package of sugar, a sack of flour, baking powder, baking soda, and a couple three-packs of yeast, a 5lb bag of unpeeled carrots, a bag or two of potatoes, a bag of apples. Toothpaste, acetaminophen.

That would run about $55 at Aldi. You could throw in a lot of chips, and crackers for $20 more.

Don't worry about it, R224, Italy has kept supermarkets open.

If things get really bad (I mean REALLY bad), the Army can supervise food distribution, based on some kind of roster system (or something like that). This kind of thing is [italic]manageable[/italic]. It's not like the streets are impassable and that produce has stopped growing.

Meanwhile, here's some very promising news from Australia about a potential vaccine. It's using a new technology (Molecular Clamping) and is not based upon using a "killed" virus, so there is less danger - and no need for animal testing. That will take many months off it's testing phase (which is already advanced).

Thank you, R227. While I will admit that I went back onto Amazon and bought $125 worth of Kind Bars, Peanut Butter and Muscle Milk, it's more the tone of the post that really made me angry. There's enough out there to make us uneasy. I don't see why we need to contribute to it in here. I'm not saying lie, but that fucking post, Jesus.

I appreciate the info and advice you provided. Thanks!

It’s reassuring to know that every scientist in the world is looking for a cure/treatment for this 24/7 and will be given unlimited money to do so.

At these infection rates, the world will be at 1 million cases by the end of March and 10 million cases by mid-April.

I'm glad to have an $18 air popper so I don't have to use precious oil to make popcorn!

How did we get to 93 deaths in the US ?

Are the sneaking in a few extra here and there because someone was screwing with the numbers?

eBay has several types of face masks.

And TOILET PAPER !

[quote]Americans were going to fight this virus with guns. Guns is the American answer to everything.

They're not fighting the virus. They're protecting their horde of toilet paper.

It's so interesting to see that the N95 masks on Ebay are going for a ridiculous amount of money while the kn95 masks are relatively cheap. They are basically the exact same mask according to 3M, but I'm guessing because they're coming from China, no one wants them.

[quote]R224 what if people DON'T have six weeks worth of food in the house (because many, many people do not and are unable to stock that much). Are they just gonna die?

My mom’s county was just put under a “shelter in place” order until April 7th. No visiting friends, and only going to certain jobs deemed “essential”. Pet, grocery and hardware stores, and pharmacies, will still be open, though some with limited hours. (For instance, Safeway isn’t open 24-hours now.) You can still do those things.... it’s not like downtown was just VAPORIZED. And people can come in and out of the county to do essential things for family members, like a home bound senior.

I am worried for people who can’t afford to stay home from work, or just had their businesses close. I’m not freaking out - I just hope others can keep it together.

The researchers really are working around the clock! And the NIH has waived the requirement for prior approval for scope of work change as long as it is COVD-19 related which mean any existing NIH funds can be redirected to Coronavirus research right away. And NIAID has waived other rules restricting supplements in it Notices of Special Interests (NOSIs)

Interesting article about how Gunnison, a Colorado more-or-less escaped the 1918 flu through the use of quarantine.

The person in the previous thread who said they might have it:

[quote]I feel a little "off" - I have a mild fever, some body aches, and light headache. But I can't tell if it's paranoia, stress, allergies, or this damn virus or what. It would be nice if I could find a thermometer. Any ideas?

You might have a light version of it. The worst version of C19 involve lung pain that causes a dry cough, getting worse until you can't breathe.

Apologies if this has been posted before, it's a Twitter thread by someone who has it:

[quote]Americans were going to fight this virus with guns.

People are worried that society will break down and there will be looting. Given how some people were acting in grocery stores, I kind of don't blame them for thinking that, but I don't see what good more guns will do them.

Thank you for Being a friend DL. Happy St Patrick’s Day.

May we all have a little luck 🍀

I love you all so much. Thank you for keeping me informed, laughing and not so scared. You also made me not feel crazy as most people thought I was nuts to be concerned about CV before

Do you think Grindr hookups are exempt from the San Fran shelter in place order?

R210 I live in PA and I really think that was a dumb move. First off, it caused mass panicked mobs at the liquor stores...so the opposite of social distancing. Second, I think people will be able to endure their quarantines better if they can drink at home and would be less likely to try to go to out. Our PA state stores are so heavily regulated anyway I don't think that keeping them open for very limited hours, limited number of people who could be in the store at a time, etc etc would have been much trouble to enact.

Honestly, the next thread title should have "Toilet Paper" in it. Coronavirus Freakout 20: Stop Harmin' the Charmin'

Have they discussed a bailout for influencers? All those Millennials who can't support their trips around the world now to document for YouTube and Instagram?

Please. Think of the influencers.

Oh dear lord in heaven PLEASE let this mean these "influencers" need to get actual JOBS now.

Not that there are jobs to be had.

I stalk Trump's official Facebook page for shits and giggles and these deplorables are fucking ridiculous

Saying shit like, "So what if we have it, no need for tests, we should be fine even if we had it, I'm still doing everything outside"

Uh, even if MOST young and healthy people will be fine you can easily pass it to older people or people with compromised immune systems in your family or friends circle

So they should be tried to attempted murder . stupid fucks

I can't believe we have to live in the same country with them

[quote]Saying shit like, "So what if we have it, no need for tests, we should be fine even if we had it, I'm still doing everything outside"

Is this from before of after the Lord their God actually told people to isolate?

The number of cases in the US has doubled in a week. This is getting worse quickly.

Correction: Since Friday.

so many wait staff are out of work! can they apply for unemployment?

CNN-Seattle will offer $800 grocery store vouchers to 6,000 families

The program will benefit “eligible families who are currently enrolled in city-supported child care programs and food assistance programs,” the statement said.

The vouchers will allow recipients to buy food and household goods but not tobacco, alcohol, lottery tickets or fuel, the Mayor’s office explained in the statement. Voucher use will also requires a free Safeway membership, which residents can immediately access at any Safeway location.

CNN-The global coronavirus recession is beginning

As restaurants, shops, airlines and factories shut down around the world, from New York to Paris and Madrid, economists are warning that a global recession is no longer a looming threat. It's here.

Dire economic data released by China on Monday showed that the country was pummeled by the coronavirus outbreak in January and February. The world's second biggest economy looks unlikely to recover any time soon.

Now, with governments and central banks in Europe and North America pursuing drastic measures to try to control the pandemic, Asia still on high alert, and financial markets in meltdown, a growing number of experts say that a global contraction is beginning.

"Whereas 10 days ago there was some legitimate uncertainty about whether the global economy was in the process of going into recession — 10 days later, there's no question that it is," David Wilcox, former head of research and statistics at the Federal Reserve Board, told CNN Business.

CNN-Spain coronavirus deaths approach 500

Coronavirus cases in Spain have risen to 11,178 with 491 deaths, a health ministry official said Tuesday.

In the last 24 hours 1,987 new cases have been diagnosed, said Fernando Simón, director of the Spanish Coordinating Centre for Health Alerts and Emergencies, speaking at a press conference in Madrid.

The largest share of cases continues to be in the Spanish capital, Simón added.

Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center in New York has informed its staff it has a shortage of masks and other personal protective equipment, even as at least five employees and three patients have been diagnosed with COVID-19.

The hospital has only a week’s supply of masks on hand, according to a transcript of a staff meeting last Friday afternoon. The shortage is due to production and distribution delays in China, where most personal protective equipment, or PPE, is manufactured.

CNN-Iran confirms largest jump in virus cases over 24-hour period

Iran has confirmed 1,178 new cases of coronavirus, the biggest increase the country has seen over a 24-hour period.

The total number of cases is now 16,169, health ministry spokesman Kianush Jahanpour said on state TV Tuesday.

He announced 135 new coronavirus-related deaths, bringing the country's total death toll to 988.

Scat troll at R244.

Surge in new cases in Malaysia a country with daily temp 95F and humidity 77% . The mortality rate however is very low with 553 case yet only 2 deaths. So perhaps the flu might be less deadly in hot climate but just as infectious.

Great- what I thought was allergies has turned into a phlegmy cough and a bit of swollen glands. No fever, sore throat, body aches or sick feeling though. I haven't been sick in 5 years. Must be bronchitis.

^ Be glad. Sounds like a run of the mill thing. Drink lots of water. It helps with mucus and flushing your system.

If any of you have masks, esp the N95 or whatever they are... give them up... get them to hospitals. I just saw a thing on CNN where hospitals are already at risk for protective supplies.

You can stay home and keep to yourself. They have to work with the sick.

CBS News: Senior White House official confirms that outgoing Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney is under voluntary self-quarantine in his home state of South Carolina after his niece- who lives in his DC home- interacted w/ Brazil president’s press aide Fabio Wajngarten in Florida

Like everyone, I am frightened more of the day than not. But I am trying really hard to be.... if not optimistic, objective. I know this will be really difficult and by difficult I mean fucking freaked right out.

One of the things I try to do is to take it one day at a time. Sounds cliched, but it is true. You'll go nuts imagining what might happen because there's no way to know.

I also try not to snark as usual on here (at least not as much.) Even in this situation there are a couple of posters I'd like to kill and a lot of uniformed or careless posting of "information" that doesn't inform but contributes to the fear.

One thing I do believe - deeply - is that each day is one day closer to normal life. That we all know is true.

Do your bit to make sure you're here for it. xo

Dow up 400. Better than Dow down 4000.

Account from a 39-year-old type I diabetic who has the virus:

Almost everything comes from China. The rest of the junk comes from Vietnam and Malaysia.

We're doomed.

Jared Kushner repeatedly advised President Donald Trump that the media’s coverage was exaggerating the severity of the coronavirus outbreak, according to a report from The New York Times.

In the early days of the outbreak, Trump downplayed the threat from the virus, and publicly accused the “Fake News Media” and Democrats of trying “to inflame” the situation.

The Times reports that Kushner, who was tasked with carrying out research into the coronavirus to help Trump decide what to do next, privately told Trump what the president then repeated publicly.

I can see why he'd listen, given how successful Jared's been in every other endeavor he's undertaken.

Which does lean into the theory that Ivanka has it, since that might be the only thing to change that numbskull's tune.

When this is all over, can there be some kind of Nuremberg type trial for these people? That incompetent, glib fuck is now doing actual damage in the world.

Just heard on CNN that Spain may invoke suspension of mortgage payments. I believe that goes global at some point. It's just sensible public policy.

⏳ CORONA TIME ☘️ MARCH 17 - 9:45 AM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 188,386

DEATHS: 7,499

CRITICAL: 6,163

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES : 4,748

DEATHS: 93

CRITICAL: 12 . . . (italic) Shenanigans

I wish these were going directly into the hands of state health departments instead of the clusterfuck CDC.

Now we know why those little Trump bastards haven't been seen.

There not in quarantine, they're in hiding.

Trump is to blame, he should have rolled out testing when the first cases appeared. Now national settle in place is the only option to get rid of this pandemic.

I can’t believe he is still calling it the Chinese virus. It is so infuriating.

200 nurses furloughed in NY and CT because they have been exposed and cant get tested for the coronavirus

Apologies if this has already been posted.

A video of the obituary pages from a local daily newspaper in Bergamo, Italy (Lombardia). Bergamo is a town of 120,000.

9 March and 13 March.

A simple flu.

We seriously should start calling it the “Trump Flu”

It's Mother Day in the UK this Sunday. My mum said two days ago that she wants to go to the cinema and then a restaurant. Fucking seriously. She now accepts we should just get a takeaway but still wants to go to the cinema beforehand. We're just going along with it for now and hoping she'll change her mind by the weekend.

Cuomo says New York expects the peak of the virus to be in about 45 days:

#TRUMPPLAGUE

#TRUMPPERFECTPLAGUE

It seems the UK is trying to cap the number of death at 20,000 instead of trying to reduce the number as low as possible. The chief scientific officer says anything below 20,000 is a success outcome.

Top Japanese Olympics official Kozo Tashima has coronavirus in ominous 2020 sign

Japanese officials have been insistent on still hosting the Olympics this summer despite the outbreak of a global pandemic.

Now the country’s Olympic committee deputy chief has the coronavirus.

Kozo Tashima announced Tuesday he has tested positive for coronavirus in an ominous development with regards to Japan hosting the Summer Games status quo in July.

The 62-year-old Tashima had been travelling since Feb. 28, to Belfast, Amsterdam and the United States, to try to land Japan another major event — the 2023 Women’s World Cup. He returned home on March 8 and then began to experience symptoms.

The Olympics have not been canceled since 1944, when the games were called off because of World War II.

Washington Post:

Trump administration seeks roughly $850 billion in emergency stimulus to confront coronavirus economic fallout

R286 where is all this money coming from???

It means if Biden wins in November he will inherit this severely fucked up time bomb of an economy which may not recover during his term, leading to a loss in 2024 to Ivanka.

Coronavirus patient in Israel tries to escape from hospital

“After four days of hospitalization, he violently broke the window and burst through the doors of the quarantine room,” the hospital said in a statement about the Monday escape attempt.

“After police forces arrived, and with the help of the dedicated hospital staff, the patient was returned to his room, and afterward was brought to the quarantine department that was opened at the hospital,” it said.

At least 277 people are infected with the coronavirus in Israel, where more than 50,000 people are under quarantine, according to the news site.

A tax cut!?! Enough already with the tax cuts. We gave $1 trillion to corporations with a 40% tax cut 3 years ago - for NO reason. Hourly workers need cash and income today to pay the rent. Not a $100 refund next March.

I can't link to it because it's from the Independent, but someone found video of Trump talking about cutting the pandemic team two years ago even though he claimed last he didn't know.

* I meant MotherS Day @R280, obviously!

Everyone I've seen on tv (remotely) who has tested positive for COVID-19 sounds congested. Just now, I saw the woman who received the first test vaccine shot a day or two ago and she sounds the same way. She says she feels great but it will be interesting to see how she does.

r287, this is I kinda want Trump to stay on, so we are well and truly fucked by the Repubs, then the Dems can clean it up without blame. Because you know anything Joe does with be Emails! Benghazi! Obama! all over again.

And the 2nd Great Depression will be blamed on Trump. One can only hope.

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Congestion isn’t a symptom. It’s allergy season. Everyone is congested.

R293 good point, but at this rate we wouldn't have a democracy anymore.

And the Supreme Court is almost guaranteed to have at least one Justice die or retire in next term (I'm looking at you RGB!) We CAN'T let them have another seat.

Baby tested for coronavirus after death at hospital

A baby boy is being tested for COVID-19 after dying in the Big Apple just days after being discharged from a hospital with a coronavirus-like infection, police sources told The Post.

The 1-year-old — identified by sources as Michael Kameo — had been in NYU for two days last week for an upper respiratory infection, sources said.

He was discharged on Saturday and found unconscious by his dad at their home on East 23rd Street at around 8 a.m. Monday, the NYPD said.

He was raced to Mount Sinai Hospital but pronounced dead at 9:30 a.m., police said.

Because of his symptoms, his body is being tested for COVID-19, with the results still pending, the sources told The Post.

The Medical Examiner will determine the cause of death, police said.

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Another story on why gun sales are surging. Extra points for referencing The Walking Dead:

[quote] Betsy Terrell, a 61-year-old resident of Decatur, Georgia, said she thought for years about purchasing a handgun and decided to finally get one after seeing chaos at her local Costco, with long lines and people stockpiling goods. She feels the metro Atlanta area already has a lot of crime. She’s worried that if the economy tanks, crime will rise even more.

[quote] “I was beginning to see people acting oddly. That was a little unnerving,” she said. “I feel there’s potential political upheaval. … It’s scary. It’s only now I’ve felt this overwhelming need to arm myself to protect myself.”

[quote] Gun store owner Ed Turner: In the 27 years he’s been in business, he said, “I’ve never seen it like this. … This is self-preservation. This is panic. This is ‘I won’t be able to protect my family from the hordes and the walking dead.”

Cuomo must of torn trump a new asshole in their phone call

Pence asks construction companies to donate N95 masks to local hospitals and stop ordering more.

I thought 3M is working 24/7 making the N95 masks...where are they sending them?

I have zero worries about not being able to eat. Why are people so paranoid - to the point they envision gun fights over food? Or is it toilet paper? Honestly I hope they end up using the guns the way MOST people use them - suicide.

Is there a way I can get into Mexico?

R244 we already have Part 20 started. Someone jumped the gun.

It's me. I'm the idiot.

Sanjay Gupta: "at my own hospital... nine doctors have now been diagnosed with the coronavirus, 20 more are under investigation."

R307 don’t worry. It happens. Ignore the histrionic, micromanaging fat ol cocksuckers on here.

Fuck China for unleashing this on us.

Mnuchin says they're deferring $300 billion in IRS payments. If you can file your taxes on April 15, do so, he says; don't miss out on refunds. But "if you owe a payment to the IRS, you can defer up to $1 million as an individual," $10M for corps., penalty-free for 90 days.

Also: "We’re looking at sending checks to Americans immediately.”

CNN: A Kentucky novel coronavirus patient checked himself out of the hospital against medical advice. So to prevent him from spreading the virus, officials are surrounding his house to keep him there.

You will be pleased to hear our meetings at the CDC continue apace, with many, many more planned. Worry not, gay-queer friends of the DL, we're on the job and working around the glock! I mean CLOCK.

My niece's wedding is on May 9 in Ohio -- do you think it will be forced to cancel due to no gatherings rule? I hope so! I like her but really don't want to go.

[quote]Fuck China for unleashing this on us.

Viruses can come from anywhere. China gave the rest of the world nearly two months advance warning to prepare, but we squandered it. The US' response has been among the worst in the developed world, and not helped in the least by Psychopath-in-Chief (or people like you).

The testing issue is criminal.

More criminal than the outright falsehoods about it being a Fake News plot by the libs to hurt him?

It is China's fault for their appalling dietary and sanitation practices, r315. So many people are livid at them for never changing their disgusting way of life.

R315 China also botched their own response and could have warned the rest of the world a month sooner than they did. They could also likely have stopped it in China at that point. Let's not pretend they are innocent or that the way they live isn't an exacerbating factor in novel virus creation.

Is it over? Yesterday the greedy bastards that are my bosses acted like they were going to close for two weeks. My the end of the day it was business as usual. They actually said they couldn't close down. Last week the HR lady said don't listen to Rump Fox News or CNN but the CDC who said avoid large crowds. My job employs over 1000. Now they are saying they won't close down until the proper authority tells them to.

If it peaks in 45 days then we have at least another three months of this crap.

[quote]Viruses can come from anywhere.

But so many come from China, including this one, because they live like pigs, eat anything that moves, and refuse to change. This is all on them. People are furious.

FUCK CHINA indeed! They hid this from the world for months and even silenced the whistleblowers!!! Then they tried to blame the US military for the virus!

I went to China once and will never return. I was appalled by what I saw.

May I remind you that the Chinese cunts have dog meat festival every year where tens of thousands of dogs are consumed?!!

Any expert saying this could last two years is being irresponsible. Even if it were true don’t say it out loud. People are freaked out enough. It seems like there’s a competition for which expert can cone up with the most grim worst case scenario.

Joan Collins protects herself from coronavirus.

Oh, why bother Joan?

Joan Collins is still alive?!! Damn, I thought she died years ago.

I have a box of 10 N95 masks and I have to go to the hospital for a routine test in a week. Should I wear one? It seems like everyone is shaming people who use masks and saying *they don't work" which is the CDC's official line on it, but that is clearly untrue. Also I don't want a hospital worker to look at me with sad Precious Moments eyes and ask me WHY ARE YOU KILLING US by not donating your masks

R329 you may be thinking of her sister, author Jackie Collins

R330, do you have to go? can it be postponed? hospital is very dangerous right now, many doctors and nurses are infected...

In my area, all routine tests have been canceled.

This tweet got deleted. He does come off as a petulant cunt in it because Cuomo looked more presidential than Trump ever has.

R332 it's a test for Warfarin/Coumadin (it's a blood thinner) to make sure my levels of it aren't too high or too low. I bet I could get them to do an in-home test though.

Robert Reich @RBReich

The biggest U.S. airlines spent 96% of free cash flow over the last decade to buy back shares of their own stock in order to boost executive bonuses and please wealthy investors.

Now, they expect taxpayers to bail them out to the tune of $50 billion. It's the same old story.

Yep. Power and money are consolidated a la 2008. The powerful are protecting their interests.

R312 Moscow Mitch?

The Rumpster has so many racist nicknames for the Coronavirus. His latest is "Kung flu," which was said directly to an Asian reporter.

R319, China quarantined Hubei and Wuhan, and placed much of the rest of the country on lockdown, when they only had 450 known cases. Stop deflecting the blame.

WeHo you're in danger gurllll.....

[quote]”Marriott International Inc., the world’s largest hotel company with nearly 1.4 million rooms world-wide, said it is starting to furlough what it expects will be tens of thousands of employees as it ramps up hotel closings across the globe,” WSJ reports

Lol

[Quote] My worst fear right now is waking up to a text saying “Bitch it’s zombies outside”

even people who have small fridge/freezer capacity should stockpile 6 weeks worth of food and supplies.

the less frequently everyone leaves their homes, the less likely there is to be transmission of the infection and the better the chance the country has of "flattening the curve" (i.e., not overwhelming the health care system).

now is the time to think about others, not just yourself.

All of these anti China posts are a bit much. We eat a lot of weird shit too. Please stop!

China had far more cases and deaths when they shut down than they reported. No one closes off cities of millions of people because 50 people died. no one. more people die in car accidents in a day and they don't make everyone stop driving

China made it and they should own it.

No. FUCK the Chinese! Only those from China, I have no problem with Chinese from USA or other parts of the world.

Goodbye Amazon shipments! It was good while it lasted....

While out shopping for food yesterday. passed by many stores and just reading their notices...many of the stores had "we're hiring" signs but I wonder if that will be the case after this virus. Many stores like bakeries etc are closing early at 6pm or 8pm.

[quote]All of these anti China posts are a bit much. We eat a lot of weird shit too. Please stop!

" We eat a lot of weird shit too." Your desperation in trying to find an equivalency is a bit much.

This series of threads is now just a racist, anti-China forum.

It's sick that supposedly gay men are so racist and Trump-ish.

People are going to vent, buttercup.

Racist xenophobia on Datalounge? Who would have imagined such a thing?

Dana Bash on CNN just praised Trump for his “human tone.”

Fuck you, Dana Bash.

More bad news from Italy

8m ago - Guardian

Italy's death toll rises by 16% in 24 hours The total number of confirmed cases of coronavirus in Italy has risen to 31,506, from 27,980 on Monday, Reuters reports.

The death toll also increased by 16% in the last 24 hours, by 345 to 2,503.

Fucking racist at R353.

[quote]This series of threads is now just a racist, anti-China forum.

[quote]It's sick that supposedly gay men are so racist and Trump-ish.

No you stupid fuck, it's being livid at a country for STOPPING THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD because they have never gotten their shit together and changed their disgusting, unsanitary and extremely dangerous behaviors and habits. And now we're all suffering for it. We have every right to be pissed.

4-year-old’s coronavirus symptoms worsen after taking ibuprofen

A 4-year-old British girl suffering from coronavirus-like symptoms grew worse after taking ibuprofen, her family said.

As health experts hotly debate whether the anti-inflammatory medicine should be taken to combat the contagion, Dan Collins of Bristol posted a dire warning on Facebook about his little girl Amelia.

“To those of you that have children please read. If your child has symptoms of corona virus, DO NOT give them ibuprofen,” Collins wrote.

“Amelia’s been unwell since Tuesday, cough, fever, cold. This morning she came into my room and got into my bed burning hot and not wanting to get up,” he wrote Sunday.

“Within an hour of giving her [ibuprofen] she dropped dramatically. She was panting while trying to breathe, her heart rate was very rapid, she couldn’t keep her eyes open, couldn’t lift her head up, her body was shaking, she started being sick on herself and her temperature had risen.

“We called back up and they sent out an emergency ambulance, once the paramedics got here they managed to bring her temp and stats down a bit, they’re still higher than normal but not dangerous high anymore,” Collins said.

“Now she’s back on [acetaminophen] she’s back to just being her poorly self. The paramedics only told us while here that were not to give her ibuprofen!”

Some top medical experts are warning against taking ibuprofen if the coronavirus is suspected.

While ibuprofen is used to treat pain, including from headaches and sore throats, along with colds, it “can have a depressive effect on parts of our immune systems” — a real danger for coronavirus sufferers, wrote Dr. Amir Khan, of Britain’s public health care National Health Service, in Al Jazeera.

“If we take medicines that dampen this immune response, such as ibuprofen, this can lead to us not fighting off the infection as effectively, potentially leading to a longer illness with a higher risk of complications,” he said.

Khan said alternatives for pain and fever could include paracetamol, commonly known as Panadol, or acetaminophen, which is the main ingredient in Tylenol.

French Health Minister Olivier Veran also tweeted over the weekend, “Taking anti-inflammatory drugs (ibuprofen, cortisone…) could be an aggravating factor of the infection. If you have a fever, take paracetamol. If you are already on anti-inflammatory drugs or in doubt, ask your doctor for advice.” But other health experts said they are not convinced that ibuprofen is harmful to coronavirus sufferers.

coronavirus after death at NYC hospital

French Health Minister Olivier Veran also tweeted over the weekend, “Taking anti-inflammatory drugs (ibuprofen, cortisone…) could be an aggravating factor of the infection. If you have a fever, take paracetamol. If you are already on anti-inflammatory drugs or in doubt, ask your doctor for advice.” But other health experts said they are not convinced that ibuprofen is harmful to coronavirus sufferers.

“Deeply concerned about this bold statement,” tweeted Muge Cevik, a scientist with the University of St Andrews Infection and Global Health Division, after Veran’s statement.

“There’s no scientific evidence I am aware of that ibuprofen [causes worse] outcomes in #COVID19.”

My state's total number of infections is up to 17.

[quote]The number of cases in the US has doubled in a week

The “number of cases“ is strictly the result of more people being tested. Number of hospitalized CV patients and number of CV deaths is what will be the barometer of what’s really happening.

Question: How do you know when Donald Trump is lying?

Answer: Whenever he opens his mouth.

R77

[quote]A colleague of mine told me today that he knows owner of a construction company in Canada who told his staff today "Take all your sick leave, take all your holidays, and after that, you're not coming back." [quote]

That's probably what's going to happen to our company too, except they can't bring themselves to say it, yet. They will soon enough. We packed all our belongings and left on Friday.

Trump's human tone is because it finally dawned on him how much money he could make by taking it from the gov't. All the money being given to him by Congress to help with the virus. Trump: $1 for the virus, $2 for me, $1 for the virus...................

I'm getting really freaked out that things just keep getting worse in Italy despite their lockdown. What hope is there for the rest of us?

I've been unemployed for over a year. Finally got a well paying job that was supposed to start yesterday; they told me on Friday the offer was put on indefinite hold until things get back to normal, however long that is.

I'm absolutely gutted and have spent the past few days sleeping, too depressed to get out of bed.

⏳ CORONA TIME ☘️ MARCH 17 - 1:30PM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 194,515

DEATHS: 7,893

CRITICAL: 6,730

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 5,703

DEATHS: 97

CASES: 12 ? ....... Blarney!

R366 -- Better times are coming. Bad times don't last. Hang in there!

R340 stop pretending like China is blameless. The world is affected. They arrested eight doctors who tried to spread the word about it and made them sign statements saying they were lying, at the beginning of the crisis. The way Emperor Xi has taken over the country has had a big impact on that. No one wants to stand out or take a stand.

👌 That's OK, r307, you've given us a glimmer of hope for the future. We'll be around for at least a few more days to fill up your thread.

r366 I know this makes you feel horrid and you have every right to feel this way. When you are ready to stop feeling depressed about it, think about it this way. everything happens for a reason. Maybe you would have caught the virus, maybe you would have been mugged on your way to or from the job. Maybe you would have been in an accident that didn't kill you but paralyzed you for the rest of your life. This may have been a blessing even though you will never know. If you do not end up with this job I think you are going to get a better one so don't give up!

R371 Everything does NOT “happen for a reason.” That’s a fucking idiotic statement.

[quote]Madame X Quarantine Diaries ............... #covid19 #staysafe #becreative

The Italian death toll today is the scariest thing I’ve read yet. Didn’t they start isolation over 10 days ago? Maybe the severe cases took longer to fester - but it’s supposed to be only a 5 day average Incubation period.

I really need to start exercising again today so to avoid a state of total quarantined fat assness.

r374 people need to remember that Italy has a huge elderly population, all in pretty densely populated areas.

Despite what our Idiot-in-Chief claims, The Corona isn't going away any time soon.

What we really need are mobile mental health pop up clinic sites.

I read a column in the The Times that suggested part of the Italian problem is the nature of their lifestyle: it is very social, very tactile and very intergenerational, so spread was facilitated by those three factors.

[quote]What we really need are mobile mental health pop up clinic sites.

That's something that could be facilitated online if somebody (hello Bill Gates) would fund the infrastructure.

[quote]everything happens for a reason

Oh, my sides!

Mass escape in at least 4 Brazilian prisons amid coronavirus outbreak

Brazilian media said more than 1,000 inmates could be on the loose. Reports also say inmates were complaining about restrictions to visitations this weekend, also aimed at containing the virus.

A video shot in the city of Mongaguá, on the coast of Sao Paulo state, and broadcast by TV Globo shows hundreds of men running out of a prison that has the capacity to hold about 2,800 inmates.

Diamond Princess passenger with coronavirus ‘never showed any symptoms at all’

A Utah man who was on board the coronavirus-stricken Diamond Princess cruise in Japan said he continues to test positive for the virus — even though he has “never showed any symptoms at all.”

Mark Jorgensen and his wife Jerri were among the 696 passengers who contracted the bug on board the ship, which was quarantined off the coast of Yokohoma. Jerri’s symptoms, he said, were quite mild and did not last long. And his were non-existent.

“We were tested because they considered me high risk, I’m a kidney transplant patient,” Jorgensen said on the FOX News program “Outnumbered Overtime.”

“And so, during the quarantine, they came to our room and tested us, and then the next night my wife started to have a little bit of a high fever and didn’t feel really well. By the next morning, that was gone, but they came and told us she was positive and took her to the hospital.”

Jerri was sent to a hospital in Japan where she remained for two weeks before returning home. Jorgensen was transferred between various hospitals in the US before being allowed to self-quarantine at home — where he has been for several days, he said.

“I never showed any symptoms at all,” he said on the program. “I tested positive continuously throughout the whole process but never had any symptoms.” He said he is tested for the deadly bug twice a week at home, where he is “social distancing” from his wife.

Last month, Jorgensen showed off his spacious room at the Travis Air Force Base where he was staying in California, while Jerri remained under care in Japan.

These threads are a disaster. Get it together.

[quote]I really need to start exercising again today so to avoid a state of total quarantined fat assness.

With all the gyms being closed, I've been doing push-ups and sit-ups at home and talking long walks. I'm the kind of person who gains weight just from looking at food so without access to a gym, I have to be super-vigilant about diet and exercise. TONS of people are going through this right now. We're all afraid that the gym closures will turn us into fatassed whales if we're not careful.

R153 Interestingly, ElderLez, one of the clinical trials due to start in the US and Italy is going to use an immunosuppressant to try and fight Covid-19.

NYC planning for shelter in place order. Decision to be made in next 48 hrs.

I'm telling you: Freeletics.

r372 I do not agree with you as you are entitled to your opinion. I am also entitled to mine. If you do not like what I post just skip over it. My family and I have gotten thru many things having this belief. And I am sorry for you that you do not see it this way as it can be a great help

NYC 814 cases

Manhattan 277

Brooklyn 158

can't remember the rest.

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tell us what the fuck IS the reason that everything happens for.

Italy is the 2nd in the world to have the highest elderly population in their country

Lesbians are the reason, r390. Have Lesbian Faith.

Isn't Japan the highest? I know they're less interconnected, but they're even more packed together.

Jared Leto has just been informed of what is going on. Please keep him in your thoughts and prayers.

r390 I did explain it in the post. Have you ever been delayed for some reason and then when you finally got going you came across an accident or something and realize if you had left when you originally planned that it could have been you in the accident? Sometimes if something happens that we didn't plan it keeps something else from happening. We usually don't see it or realize it because what would have happened didn't happen because we were delayed or something changed that we didn't plan.

Jared reminds me of Rick waking up from his coma in Walking Dead (or the other cutie in 28 Days Later).

I wonder how much sex he had in the desert?

Japan seems to be a much more hygienic country than China

[quote] [R332] it's a test for Warfarin/Coumadin (it's a blood thinner) to make sure my levels of it aren't too high or too low. I bet I could get them to do an in-home test though.

I would be surprised if you didn't know this, so if I'm giving you useless info, I apologize- However, it seems like you might not know. You can test your coumadin levels at home. My mom was on blood thinners for many years before she died (not because of blood thinners) and she did her own testing at home.

Look up Home INR testing on Google and check it out. You can order the stuff you need online.

Read the Twitter thread on Jared Leto's idiotic Tweets and laugh....

Okay, this is scary.

And then God sent a plague.

"all things happen for a reason" is a statement of "faith"

that's why it's called "faith", something people believe that has no basis in fact, logic, reason or science. in other words a susperstition

Coronavirus doctor says lung scans for young patients were ‘nothing short of terrifying’

A Belgian doctor working to battle the coronavirus says he’s treated several seriously ill young patients — and their lung scans were “nothing short of terrifying,” according to reports.

Dr. Ignace Demeyer, who works at a hospital in Aalst, said an increasing number of people between the ages of 30 and 50 have presented with severe symptoms, despite having “blank medical records” which show no underlying conditions that would make them high risk, the Brussels Times reported.

“They just walk in, but they are terribly affected by the virus,” Demeyer told the Belgium broadcaster VRT.

He said that CT scans indicated they were suffering from severe lung damage.

“The images we took yesterday are nothing short of terrifying,” the doctor told the station.

“They are people who do not smoke, who have no other conditions such as diabetes or heart failure,” Demeyer added.

Belgium has reported at least 1,085 COVID-19 cases and at least five deaths since the virus emerged in China in December.

Worldwide, there have been more than 190,000 people infected as of Tuesday afternoon, according to a tally from Johns Hopkins University.

USA: 5,839 Cases / 99 Deaths

How many cases were there last week?

Turtle time :(

R366 I'm so sorry to hear that! Godspeed!

R405: 3/10 was 994 Cases

Click on the graph at link to see cases by day in USA

Gurl, they need to hurry up and send out these Corona checks, mama needs a new car!

Gurl, they need to hurry up and send out these Corona checks, mama needs a new car!

We're going to be at 10,000 cases by this weekend now that testing has begun to pick up.

NBC:

White House considering giving Americans checks to combat economic impact of outbreak

CNBC:

US coronavirus cases surpass 5,000, up fivefold from a week ago

Meanwhile in France...

31m ago 18:40 - Guardian

French health authorities reported 27 new deaths from coronavirus on Tuesday, taking the total to 175 or an increase of around 18%, as France entered its first day of lockdown to try and contain the outbreak.

During a press conference without any physical presence of journalists, health agency director Jérôme Salomon added the number of cases had risen to 7,730, up from 6,633 on Monday, which is a rise of 16.5% in 24 hours.

Salomon said 699 people were in a serious condition, needing life support

In all seriousness, no matter what happens, I'm really grateful to all you bitches for the last 19 years.

Wow at a possible NYC shelter in place order. Never been so glad to live in a lame ass NJ suburb.

R416: Hell, I am glad to be across the Hudson in Jersey City (no more envy here)!!

there's a rumor the whole nation will be in lockdown in 48 hours

R356 That percentage is half of what it was. Let's hope it becomes a trend.

Ladies and gentleman, I present to you the end of Vanessa Hudgens' career:

A study released this morning said that for every reported case of coronavirus, there are 5 to 10 unreported cases. So if we have 5000 confirmed cases today, that means there are up to 50,000 cases out there. Of course, that number will continue to go up as more testing is done.

oh Vanessa what a dumb post

some of these celebs are just the dumbest

Can you believe that I live in a hot zone, SF. Yesterday I messaged my doc to see if she could give me a script for Xanax or similar to help with my anxiety - someone on her staff answered back, sorry Dr out of office, if you are still having problems, head to the ER!!!

I wrote back and said, thanks fir responding but the ER is the last place you should tell me to go!

WTF?

The UK has introduced 350L worth of economic measures, including a 3 month mortgage holiday for homeowners. I cannot help but believe we'll see this in most if not all countries. Even if Republicans don't want to do it, if every other country is, they will have a hard time justifying refusal. So there's that relief.

R420 what a cunt

Apparently China is getting back to normal. Restaurants are open, kids going back to school, lifting of travel restrictions, etc. I don't have a good feeling about this.

I don't understand how China is going back to normal if the virus is still out there. There's no possible way they can stamp out all cases with as virulent as it is.

you can't really trust what China says just like Trump or Putin

R426, why? A second wave?

If they are confident they can re=open the country, the take-away from it is that a country can return to normal or something close to it. There is a light at the end of the tunnel. Good for us as we start to close down, knowing it's temporary.

Unless that light is a train of course.

Ivanka's trying to start a new perky trend! The replies, alas, are not as perky!

@IvankaTrump

Staying home today w/ kids?

Plan living room camp out!

Throw a bedsheet over some taped together brooms. Plan a menu & ‘pack’ sandwiches, salads (S’mores optional 😜)

A fun activity that also brings family together for a meal!

Share your ideas & use the hashtag #TogetherApart

Pandemic virus come in waves. China "reopening" is a prescription for a global disaster.

I agree R427, but I think eventually people in the US will become complacent and start going out too. You know Trump is going to tell people it is safe to resume their lives.

I live in Belgium. The post from R403 has freaked me the fuck out! True, it is mostly the old and sick who are dying but EVERYONE is vulnerable! This will become more evident when we start to run out of ICU beds. Stay away from people as much as possible, wash your hands, and take everything that the Whitehouse says with a grain of salt. Or a few truckloads to be safe.

All this has brought memories of my childhood I've tried desperately to forget. I had rheumatic fever at 9 years old. My feet didn't touch the floor for a year. I lived in my bed, under an oxygen tent. My dad moved my bed close to a second story window so I could look out when I felt strong enough. I watched my sisters and their friends play in the street. All I wanted was to be there with them. It became my goal.

I remember days and nights of trying to breathe. It was an all consuming, suffocating task to get from one breath to the next. Struggling to get to the next day. That was all I had to sustain me.

I tell you, my anonymous friends, we can get through this. You can survive this; for a month or two, or however long it takes. Life is about surviving moment to moment. Really it is.

Our world is very frightening right now. Fear will be your constant companion. Fear of losing, fear of never again doing the things you love. But fear will save your life today and the days after.

Do as you are asked to do. You are not alone in this. Look around at what is important to you; what you love most. Close your eyes and breathe.

I love you all; truly.

I'd pay to watch that contemptible little cunt at R420 arrive, gasping for breath, at a hospital with no ventilators left.

[quote]take everything that the Whitehouse says with a grain of salt.

Or do the exact opposite.

Didn't Vanessa Hudgeon's career end with the disastrous RENT Live! debacle? Along with Valentina's career.

I love you, R434.

This virus is over the top contagious. All large cities will settle in place soon, if you live in one shop now.

R287, don't give me nightmares!

In response to @NYCMayor saying a “shelter in place order” is possible for City, @NYGovCuomo Admin official confirms what @NYGovCuomo said this morning: Mayor’s cannot do that without State approval. From Cuomo, “That is not true. That cannot happen. It cannot happen legally”

Reminder to wear mask or anything similar in public area. You never know if you are positive or not and asymptomatic person can spread the virus.

Who has masks R442?

Can De Blasio be anymore stupid? He’s driving in Trump’s lane.

From Belgium here. Early reports say that we will be in full lockdown tomorrow at noon until 5 April. To be confirmed later tonight by the government

The number of people confirmed to have the virus has gone up 500% is one week.

If it continues to spread at that rate, quintupling every week, in four weeks 3.125 million Americans will be stricken with it.

Timeline....

67 cases in Ohio, up from 50 yesterday. There's still none in my county, officially.

"Officially "

Going by the 500% increase, a week from now, we will have 25,000 confirmed cases. Of course, that's dependent on testing. Even at 250%, we'll have 12,500.

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Four Nets players test positive for coronavirus

“Of the four, one player is exhibiting symptoms while three are asymptomatic,” the team added in a statement. “All four players are presently isolated and under the care of team physicians.”

The Nets added the organization presently is notifying anyone who has had known contact with the players, including recent opponents. They said they are working closely with state and local health authorities on reporting.

There now are seven known cases of coronavirus in the NBA.

R388 You go right ahead believing your little fantasy of Daddy God up in the sky making everything “happen for a reason,” and watching over all his children, whatever floats your boat and helps you sleep at night. Just don’t come here and state your delusions as facts, ok? Thx.

"All that pressure got you down Has your head spinning all around .... FREAK OUT"

Screen cap. Title it yourselves...

[quote]The number of people confirmed to have the virus has gone up 500% is one week.

Would you get a grip? That is because the NUMBER OF TESTS has gone up. Numbers of hospitalizations and deaths is what will tell the impact of the virus, not “numbers of confirmed cases.”

R455 "Is it super hot in here or is it just me?"

R456. And just how many people have died of "pnemonia" or some other issue during the past weeks that haven't yet been counted? Lies and more lies. Look at Italy! The truth is there!

When you're down and troubled And you need some loving care And nothing, nothing is going right Close your eyes and think of me And soon I will be there To brighten up even your darkest night...

Just got back from the grocery store. Lots of empty space in the meat and canned goods sections. NO paper products of any kind, whole aisle picked clean. No milk either. Was not expecting this. Never saw anything like it, not even pre-hurricane or snowstorm.

There’s no reason for this. There are no CV cases within hundreds of miles. It’s just people hoarding. Assholes.

[quote]I don't understand how China is going back to normal if the virus is still out there.

MSNBC had an expert on today who said that China will most likely see another wave of infections in the coming weeks due to people becoming complacent. Rinse and repeat. He said the only way we're getting rid of this thing is when a vaccine is developed.

Or when the majority of susceptible people have had it - which I would expect to happen first.

Reuters:

White House preparing to call on military to boost coronavirus medical response

Good to hear from you, VOTN @ R415. Stay well.

And R460, you have to prepare for hurricanes AND snowstorms? As my godmother would say, God love you.

I'll see your Carole King, and raise you one Blue Oyster Cult.

Opa, Skål, L'chaim, Cheers!

[quote]you have to prepare for hurricanes AND snowstorms?

Some hurricanes make their way this far inland but they’re mainly rain events by that time with some flooding. And people freak out and hoard supplies whenever ANY snow or ice is forecast but those events are pretty rare too. I’ve never seen shelves stripped bare like this before. People need to quit doing this shit. There’s no reason for it.

1 million cases by March 31

10 million cases by April 15

Brian Tyler Cohen:

Chris Wallace calls out Trump for causing dangerous crowding at airports

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I’ve noticed a pretty disturbing attitude a lot of people online (especially on reddit) have where they’re almost rooting for the virus. Waiting in glee to watch the worlds healthcare systems fall apart. It’s important to understand how serious this is but it’s another to spend your day talking of impending death and horror that is inevitable and the only thing we can do is lock ourselves inside for a year. Any tiny bit of optimism is met with aggression. It’s pretty sick. If you have anxiety, do NOT visit the Coronavirus subreddit.

Chris Hayes is being a Mary too, retweeting every “worst case scenario” and every single “told ya so” tweet. How is that helpful?

Incels, R470.

R470

I don't even know my blood type?? WTF..can't remember

Definitely R471. And they’re acting like they’re all experts about everything. Every comment is met with “America is so fucked”. It’s not helpful to anyone. Reddit is a cesspool.

I have the "Up With People" blood type: B positive.

Virus is now in all 50 states.

Wha? WV has it? (No surprise)

r474 it's probably a lot of Russian trolls as well. They seem to love posting about how terrible America is (even the Russians that live here).

The head of a hospital in the US state of Georgia has warned that supplies are running short after using five month’s worth of supplies in six days in the fight against coronavirus.

That comes amid growing concerns of equipment shortages in healthcare facilities across the US.

Phoebe Putney Health System CEO Scott Steiner told CNN that equipment at the healthcare provider’s flagship hospital in Albany, southwest Georgia, has been severely impacted by an increase in coronavirus cases.

The total number of recorded cases of Covid-19 in Georgia is now at 121. Of those, 65 patients are reported to be at the flagship Phoebe Putney hospital. At the same time, at least 115 others await test results.

According to the CNN report, Mr Putney believes that the Putney Memorial Hospital in Albany, Georgia, has five more days worth of supplies despite being prepared with six month’s worth of equipment, such as protective gear, before the coronavirus epidemic

“We might have thought we were overprepared,” said Mr Putney. “But you just can’t believe what we went through from a supply standpoint.”

In comments reported by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution (The AJC), the Phoebe Putney CEO said that the coronavirus outbreak cannot be compared to previous viruses such as SARS, swine flu, or Ebola.

He added: “You can throw in SARS and H1N1 and Ebola. There was Hurricane Michael – that was a big deal. But the thing is, Hurricane Michael came and went, and then you kind of pick up the pieces. We’re what, six days into this here. And it doesn’t appear to be slowing. Is it only a matter of time till all others feel the same?”

The healthcare provider has now turned to volunteers and donations, according to The AJC. That includes bleach supplied by chicken factories, and cardboard boxes provided by restaurants. Staff have also been identified who are able to sew masks if supplies run out.

Is that winning, R476?

There have been some people here, I believe, who have written that they think they have the virus. The internet is a queer thing. It’s hard to be empathetic online. But I hope everybody here gets through this ok, as well as their loved ones.

I think I had Covid-19 but how would I know? My doctor didn't order a test even though I was exposed to sick people at the end of December who had just returned from China. Why wasn't I tested? BECAUSE THE TESTS DIDN'T FUCKING EXIST!!!!

[quote]I’ve noticed a pretty disturbing attitude a lot of people online (especially on reddit) have where they’re almost rooting for the virus.

The only thing Im rooting for is for this to somehow tank the broken US healthcare system, so we can start over again. This thing is on track to do just that. It is time for the greed based system we have now to end.

Does Corona Virus' pussy stink?

Does anyone know:

Can you get the virus repeatedly?

Can non-symptomatic person get a test?

What is the hospitalization rate?

1) Can you get the virus repeatedly?

There's no proof you can. A few anecdotal cases but if it acts the way other coronaviruses do, no.

2) Can non-symptomatic person get a test?

It depends on the state you're in and your doctor connections. The wealthy seem to be able to get them, no problem. Also I think doctors can send them to outside laboratories if you pay for it.

Thanks, R486.

My understanding about “flattening the curve”, simply means trying to spread hospitalizations over a longer period, so as not to overwhelm the medical system at one time. It doesn’t refer to reducing serious cases.

They are talking on TV about multiple, individual, people developing immunity, and thereby providing herd immunity to others. Not very confidence building..

Why are the two asshole Senators from Kentucky so determined to fuck us over?

r453 thanks for your opinion but I'll post any damn thing I want. thanks

Video Exposes Trump's MAJOR Pandemic Screw Up

On the bright side, the National Association of Broadcasters has a new COVID-19 commercial out on tv that features a hot blonde in a black tank top.

I'm starting to get depressed again. I can't believe we have to live like this for another 6 months to a year. I can't even fathom it.

is there an update on US infection and death numbers tonight?

It's funny. When I was young I was such a germaphobe I used to dress in a winter coat during summer for fear of catching St. Louis encephalitis from a passing mosquito. But having a lover with AIDS changed everything. Now there are people in their 40s and 50s in my office who are like YOU COULD DIE in 2-6% of cases if you catch this thing. As an eldergay, I'm like, wow, those are great odds. Give me that for any old disease and I'll be happy. Heteros just never think about death until it kicks them in the ass: so they are like teenagers of yesteryear, a clear case of arrested development.

[quote]Why are the two asshole Senators from Kentucky so determined to fuck us over?

because KY is an asshole state whose assholes find the worst assholes possible to send to to join the other 51 asshole senators from other asshole states. got it?

[quote]Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez announced Tuesday his government has approved a 200 billion euro (almost $220 billion) aid package to help tackle the economic impact of the coronavirus pandemic.

[quote]The package amounts to about 20% of the country's GDP and is "the biggest mobilization of economic resources in Spain's history," Sanchez said during a news conference.

At least we’re not alone..

Stop blaming the Chinese. This is obviously an elaborate plan by Janet Jackson so she'll have to cancel her poorly selling new tour.

Lol

[Quote] You might as well go ahead an pronounce the "L" in salmon. Nothing matters anymore.

[quote]The air traffic control tower at Chicago Midway International Airport is temporarily closed after several technicians at the facility tested positive for coronavirus, the FAA says

So I guess they’re just mass testing everyone now? And the more people who test positive and have to leave their jobs to go into quarantine for two weeks the worse the economic hit will be. What happens when nurses start testing positive? How will hospitals operate and who will take care of all the sick CV patients? This thing just keeps spiraling.

Some good news:

A renowned research professor in France has reported successful results from a new treatment for Covid-19, with early tests suggesting it can stop the virus from being contagious in just six days.

Professor Didier Raoult from infection hospital l'Institut Hospitalo-Universitaire (IHU) Méditerranée Infection in Marseille (Bouches-du-Rhône, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur), published a video explaining the trials on Monday March 16.

Professor Raoult is an infectious diseases specialist and head of the IHU Méditerranée Infection, who has been tasked by - and consulted by - the French government to research possible treatments of Covid-19.

He said that the first Covid-19 patients he had treated with the drug chloroquine had seen a rapid and effective speeding up of their healing process, and a sharp decrease in the amount of time they remained contagious.

Chloroquine - which is normally used mainly to prevent and treat malaria - was administered via the named drug, Plaquenil.

The treatment was offered to 24 patients, who were among the first to become infected in the south east of France, and who had voluntarily admitted themselves to hospital for the process.

Patients were given 600mcg per day for 10 days. They were closely monitored, as the drug can interact with other medication, and cause severe side effects in some cases.

Professor Raoult said: “We included everyone who was in agreement [to be treated], which was almost everyone. Two towns in the protocol, Nice and Avignon, gave us [infected] patients who had not yet received treatment.

“We were able to ascertain that patients who had not received Plaquenil (the drug containing hydroxychloroquine) were still contagious after six days, but of those that had received Plaquenil, after six days, only 25% were still contagious.”

Chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine have previously been used to treat coronavirus patients in China, in ongoing Covid-19 clinical trials.

Kaletra, a US-based antiviral drug normally used to treat HIV, is another medicine that is being tested in the fight against Covid-19.

5 doctors reportedly test positive for coronavirus after attending NYC medical conference

Juilliard School faculty member tests positive for coronavirus

“I write to you to share that last night we learned that a faculty member in the College Division has been diagnosed with COVID-19,” Juilliard’s President Damian Woetzel wrote in an email to the school community.

Woetzel noted the infected staffer had not been on campus in over 14 days — longer than it usually takes for coronavirus symptoms to develop after first exposure.

Juilliard had already opted to switch remote to classes beginning Monday and lasting for at least two weeks.

Florida governor refuses to shut down beaches amid spread of coronavirus

Gov. Ron DeSantis said it's "not uniform throughout the state that you’re seeing massive crowds at beaches," despite videos of gatherings in Tampa Bay.

My former boss isn't taking this seriously and sent his daughter from Colorado to Florida for spring break. He reluctantly told his employees today that they can work from home "if they feel it's necessary" but that he doesn't think that they are in any danger.

Andrew Watt, who's a big-time music producer(Señorita by Shawn Mendes) was diagnosed as having Coronavirus and he got very sick. He's only 29 and he has to use an oxygen machine to aid his breathing. It sounds scary.

As of 10pm, EDT, there are 6362 cases in the US, with 110 reported deaths, according to John Hopkins. Last count, there were 1707 cases in New York.

As of 10pm, EDT, there are 6362 cases in the US, with 110 reported deaths, according to John Hopkins. Last count, there were 1707 cases in New York.

NYC needs a Wuhan style lockdown. It’s the epicenter.

The remaining ignorance and flippancy is infuriating. The lack of widespread testing in areas of confirmed positive patients, and the INSANE amount of unnecessary exposure first responders are being subjected to.

I'm a bit agoraphobic since 9/11 happened outside of my bedroom window and I know that bc of that dust I'm going to have lung issues. I've been home since Tues of last week but that doesn't make a bit of difference because I have IDIOTS for family who've been mainlining Fox news so think this is nothing.

Yesterday I had a total blowout with my brother bc we have a younger sister working in respiratory therapy and she's quite scared at this point because the problem is in the protocols, they only outfit unless there's a confirmed case. She's the baby of the family and is healthier than most of our siblings but works 12 hr shifts at two hospitals which is a lot of exposure. But I'd layed into him and his ignorantly mocking the fuss around this. I know it hit him bc I'd heard about it from another sister who was like 'what did you actually say?'. I told him what he should've known.

I'm in a large county, but not densely populated in NW CT, but my pcp had their first positive yesterday am because I had to call about a routine matter bc of a positive test. Given how long we waited to acknowledge the problem swift, comprehensive and amply available testing needs to be done systematically at this point to curtail as much damage as possible.

I also dont understand why recovered patients or those who had shown no symptoms aren't having blood taken for the advancement of developing some type of preventive immunotherapy for critical patients.

What are the chances we can het the malaria drug in mass production? It sounds promising

R509 again, also Chump instead of checks how about you pressure your manufacturer cronies to get on mass production and distribution of masks, ventilators, mobile testing sites, etc.

You know, the shit that can actually help to bolster our healthcare system.

Chris Cuomo gets personal: Coronavirus scares me as a parent

[quote]Florida governor refuses to shut down beaches amid spread of coronavirus

Gov. Ron DeSantis said it's "not uniform throughout the state that you’re seeing massive crowds at beaches," despite videos of gatherings in Tampa Bay.

come on, we know the real reason, they just want to go home and kill their grandparents, inherit sooner

ok boomer, lol

"oh grandma, what a bad cough you have"

hahah

Suggested subtitle or Coronavirus Freakout 20: "Coughers in these Dangerous Times"

I’ve been watching msnbc for election news tonight and my god how depressing. Maddow is practically salivating over dragging the worst case scenarios out of all of these professionals. If i only watched this shit I’d be hoarding too, because it sounds like society as we know it will be over forever in a week.

Why is it so hard to shut down all of these hot spots where the virus is clearly spreading from?

Florida governor reminds me of the mayor in "Jaws' who refused to shut down beaches because it was tourist season.

We know how well that worked out.

R500, Hydrochloroquine is showing a lot of promise against Covid-19. Of course our CDC only recognizes a 500K HIV drug as a treatment not the cheap and widely available alternative.

Rachel Maddow really seems to be getting off on this.

Fanning the flames of panic, no practical advice.

She's obsessed with the numbers and her intellectual ideas about pandemic politics but has no concern about helping her large, already panicked audience understand WHAT TO DO.

Florida is one of the only states that the US can really do without. It's like a gangrenous toe, cut it off before losing the whole leg.

R516 R519 Fear = RATINGS.

R519 she better knock it the fuck off, I can't stand not being able to buy what I want at the grocery store. It's like we are living in 1980s russia when we go to a grocery store now.

Maddow is just trying to convey how much Trump admin is royally fucking this up

widely available testing STILL DOESN'T EXIST YET. Hospital supplies and staff are still very low. In less than 2 weeks no doubt we'll be like Italy only worse since we're bigger

the fucking Senate still hasn't voted on the House bill

Standing in line at the grocery store is so depressing. Even with the sun shining it’s like a dark cloud over Chicago. I’m still going to work though my husband is working from home.

I’m still one of the scant few I know who just don’t understand the overwhelming fucking drama. It’s like every politician needs to one up another in who can unilaterally shut in their residents first. And the media just fans the flames.

r521 - If it bleeds, it leads.

[quote]Even with the sun shining it’s like a dark cloud over Chicago

Chicago is depressing anyway.

Recovering From Coronavirus, Daniel Goldman Describes Testing Ordeal | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC

The USA as a whole won’t be one big Italy just like Lombardy isn’t representative of Italy as a whole. We will probably have a few of our own Lombardys but the whole country won’t be like that. USA is really, really big and really spread out. It’s why we need to quarantine NYC. No one in or out for a month.

News 12 CT map of coronavirus cases and deaths in NY, NJ, and CT. They say it is updated twice daily.

Almost all of those places contain a huge number of daily commuters to nyc. Stay the fuck home and shut nyc down!

Limits now planned on border crossings between the U.S. and Canada. Announcement by Tuesday, according to CNN.

Trade not affected, applies to non essential travel. DL won't let me link to CNN.

Dr. Sanjay Gupta 'surprised at lack of seriousness' given to coronavirus

Dan Goldman is fucking sexy

Limiting US - Canada travel, baarring tclosing schools, emergency stimulus and healthcare packages, closing bars, limiting retaili food service to take away only, mandating work from home, aren't serious enough for Dr. Gupta?

Is Gupta an idiot? why would he be "surprised" by a lack of serious on the part of the clusterfuck clown and his posse of rethug retards?

R534 only a few places have done that, and the Republicans have yet to pass anything that wasn't a huge giveaway to corporations and the 1% at the expense of workers.

Gupta is saying it should be done nationally.

Where I am, our idiot governor says he's going to continue going out to eat with his family and won't live in fear 🙄

Holy shit! Out of curiosity I checked airfares from NYC to Austin (have friends and family there.) Leaving this Friday and coming back a week later is ONLY $62 ROUND TRIP!!!!

And the planes seats look empty. Given the quality of the air filtration systems on planes and the very few people, seems like planes are safer than the trains or buses many of us have to rely on to get anywhere,

R537 R538 Hopefully there’ll be air traffic controllers still working when you fly.

[quote]The air traffic control tower at Chicago Midway International Airport has temporarily closed after several technicians at the facility tested positive for coronavirus, the Federal Aviation Administration said Tuesday.

And the guy next to you or in back of you on the plane isn’t spewing corona virus all over you.

[quote]The air traffic control tower at Chicago Midway International Airport has temporarily closed after several technicians at the facility tested positive for coronavirus, the Federal Aviation Administration said Tuesday.

Mayday?! Why that's the Russian New Year! You know, we'll have a big parade, we'll serve hot hors d'oeuvre...

Fuck China

God, r540, I would love it he were wandering around CNN or MSNBC commenting on all the shit currently going on.

Speaking of ordering in food, how do people feel about it? I'm not worried about the people bringing it to me because I can take the package from them with gloves on and put my food on a plate. But what about the people preparing it? I really wanted to order in tonight but I had a peanut butter sandwich instead.

R543 - I feel the same.

Florida's non closing of beaches to spring breakers will turn the whole state into a petri dish. By April 1st the number of infections will exponentially skyrocket. Florida will become a swampy tomb with trumptard sock puppet DeSantis the Crypt Keeper.

(Bouches-du-Rhône, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur)

I tink I bwoke my tung.

R545, yes, and by that time all the spring breakers will have dispersed back to their respective Trashvilles, USA, having infecting countless others. I'm an empathetic person but, at this point, I'm stifling yawns.

R543, there is no way to totally ensure you'll escape the virus, but ordering in drastically reduces the number of touchpoints that could transmit it, vs. going to a store or restaurant.

When you order in, you're not opening your apartment lobby's door to leave, touching the restaurant door handle, being seated next to people who might be ill, assuming that the silverware, glasses, chair and table have been sanitized sufficiently, putting your phone down on a germy surface, possibly touching the restroom door handle, touching the server's communal pen to sign the check, etc., etc.

And when you order in, you're giving yourself a break, and you're helping restaurants and their employees to survive.

I mean, let's keep our wits about us here.

R543, I wonder the same thing about people packing groceries that are delivered. I wish the stores and restaurants would make their protocols explicitly clear.

That said I read today the delivery services are so overwhelmed it was giving them problems - and old people, who really need it, were suffering. So I guess I just duct tape my nose and mouth and go to the grocery store.

R548, I wasn't advocating going to a restaurant instead. A- All the restaurants are closed to customers and only doing takeout and delivery and B- Even if they were open, it doesn't solve the issue I'm concerned about: the people making my food.

Talk about wits.

R543, R544, I feel the same. I bought a lot of canned goods weeks ago; and my last take out last week which I froze. But I’m not going to order new take out again until things change - either I learn something from testing, or the infection peaks or something.

I know this is minor, but my hands are killing me! I wash them several times a day, plus apply hand sanitizer if I'm out. My skin is so dry and getting chapped that it's painful. I apply moisturizer frequently throughout the day but that doesn't help for long.

I think the problem is they don’t have enough employees to cover the pickup orders because some stores are doing zero pickups that were doing them last week. Something is fishy there.

When you go to the store the pickup spots and lines are empty.

I think they just don’t have the staff.

Yeah, that's how I feel, R551. I was curious if I was just being super paranoid and how other people were feeling about it. THey keep pushing the take out/delivery thing, but unless the prep cook is in a hazmat suit, don't be around my food.

I took my rubber gloves, clorox wipes and lysol spray to town today. I had to pay a bill, and pick up a prescription. I had to go into a business to pay my bill, and wore my gloves, didn't sit in their chairs, I used my own pen, and once I left, i threw away my gloves in the trashcan outside. Before I got in my vehicle, I sprayed myself down with lysol spray, and wiped down my pen and the lysol spray can with a wipe. I picked up my prescription via the drive thru, while wearing a second pair of gloves; I put my gloves in a plastic bag to throw away in my dumpster. Once I got home, I sprayed down the inside of my truck, the bag my prescription was in, and myself before I went inside.

I also changed my clothes as soon as I went in. Maybe I'm doing too much, but better to be safe than sorry. And yes, people looked at me funny.

Last week I posted it was strange we did not hear of any coronavirus in NYC considering NYC is the hub of international travel. I still believe, as I did last week, the numbers they are telling us are false. How can they give us a number of infected when they are unable to test so many that have the symptoms?

[quote]Even if they were open, it doesn't solve the issue I'm concerned about: the people making my food.

What I'm saying is, there is no 100% guarantee you won't get the virus, even if you sit in your apartment miserable alone eating peanut butter sandwiches for two months. But if doing that, and living monklike in constant terror, will get you off, go to it.

Getting delivery drastically reduces the risk vs. leaving your apartment for food. But don't listen to me, listen to an Ivy League professor:

[quote]It’s hard to get the potentially deadly COVID-19 virus through an order of chicken and broccoli. “The risk of contracting coronavirus through food has been, and is, extremely small,” says Martin Wiedmann, a professor of food safety in the Department of Food Science at Cornell University.

[quote]But what about all the hand contact involved in delivery? Passing off tips, toting food through vehicles, all those containers?Experts and restaurants assure us that if everyone in the food chain takes common-sense precautions, the coronavirus won’t spread through delivery — whether it’s from your favorite Thai place or grocery delivery, such as InstaCart or Amazon Prime.

[quote]“Personally, I won’t make any changes with how I receive food. If I order a pizza, I’m not going to leave the pizza box outside and bring the pizza in with my hands,” says Wiedmann. “Am I going to wash my hands before I eat pizza with my hands? Yes.”

Fresh off of Twitter.

I took my chances and ordered delivery today. Fuck it. That food was so good. If Im going to die, it wont be hungry. I want to be full and fat!

The restaurants need the business now more than ever too.

I love you, R555.

I’ve prepared well in advance, but I can’t bring myself to wipe-down my mail. Neither the exterior envelopes, nor the interior papers or products. It just seems too impractical, even though I know that the 1918 flu was transmitted, in some cases, by the mail. Like, do I then sanitize the tabletop that I opened them mail on? Then change my clothes? And clean the things the clothes touched? Etc. I let my cleaning woman go, so I’m inside making things dirty and cleaning up after myself; so to be disinfecting the mail and everything it touches just seems too impractical. I can’t see being able to keep that up for weeks, so I’m not even trying.

R552 try Gold bond Radiance Renewal it lasts for a while! I love it on my hands (too heavy for my face though)

⏳ CORONA TIME MARCH 18 - 2:00 PM EST

🌎GLOBAL

CASES: 198,716

DEATHS: 7,989

CRITICAL: 6,415

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 6,522

DEATHS: 111

CRITICAL: NOT AVAILABLE

Wash + Sanitize + Moisturize !

The palms of my hands are so rough, I could easily sand my wooden floors with them. My knuckles look like I punched somebody in the face several times.

Make sure you take good care of your paws!

Wash + Sanitize + Moisturize !

The palms of my hands are so rough, I could easily sand my wooden floors with them. My knuckles look like I punched somebody in the face several times.

Make sure you take good care of your paws!

Why did Tampa Bay sign on Tom Brady for $30 mil ?

Don't they know about The Corona?

The US is spread out. This was done, lets face it, to create nuclear war survivability, but it also helps witkh pandemics.

Um...it was done, [R566], because that was the way that colonization of the landmass occurred, not because all those Young Men Going West in 1856 thought "Let's hide in Aspen from atomic bombs!"

Thanks for the belly laugh, r567.

R543, do you have a food thermometer? If you're really worried about takeout, reheating your food to 165 degrees in an oven (165 is overkill, actually) and keeping it at that temperature for about ten minutes (overkill again) is more than enough to deactivate an enveloped virus. It will limit what you can order, of course, but it will be better than peanut butter.

Cases of The Corona now reported in ALL 50 states.

Good tip, R569. And I do have one. Thanks!

^^I should have mentioned that the reason I specified an oven is that microwaves heat unevenly. By the time you get every part of the inside of a burrito, for example, to register 165 in a microwave, the outside and ends are going to be like leather.

Reheating, tightly sealed to prevent water loss, in a 325 or 350 oven is the way to go.

🐇 Will there be an adequate supply of fresh candy for Easter ?

You know the drill, DO.

How tall is Anthony Fauci ?

Just over five feet ?

Moron Extraordinaire Juliette Lewis was on IG completely freaking everyone out by shrieking about the Los Angeles Animal Shelters closing down and how they were going to euthanize all the dogs (no mention of the cats; I guess she doesn't care). And she was begging people to go down and foster before all the animals were put down.

One 10 second check of the LA Animal Shelter homepage not only mentions that, while they are closing to customers (meaning no adoptions and no drop offs), the animals will be fed and cared for the same as always. They just don't want the public there.

But it didn't matter. Juliette had the dumb fucks who follow her in a lather, despite the fact that several people pointed out what was really going on. One shrieking harpy was screaming at everyone that they should shut up and foster. We tried to explain that, since the shelter was closed to the public, perhaps she could suggest how one might actually foster without having access to the animals as the SHELTER WAS CLOSED. Didn't matter.

Actors really should just shut the fuck up and thank god they have money and won't be destroyed by this. They help no one.

At least you didn't have to hear her speak those words, r576. Her voice drives me slap to drinkin'.r576 And I agree about the preachy actors. They need to be muzzled.

Well I have been told r574 that I would look better with a little meat on my bones, so I walked around for a week wearing a Spam™ necklace.

I didn't notice any difference.

A good friend of mine sent this to me tonight (I've deleted identifying information to protect his identity and deleted excerpts to keep within DL's posting limit.): As many of you know, _______ is an ER physician at __________. Besides treating the first ________patient who died this weekend, he is trying to stay on top of what the virus means to all of us. It is not my intention to panic or spam anybody, but there is so much information floating out there right now that I wanted you to hear _____'s take on this potentially deadly situation. Shortages of equipment and hospital facilities are a major concern. The ER doctors are already having to reuse their masks and they don't yet know if the masks are effective, as there is evidence that this virus may be aerosolized, meaning that even if you have a mask, your risk of infection is enormous. Other protective personal equipment is also in very short supply. _______, which is a level 1 trauma center, has only 11 unused ventilators. The ER staff knows that within days they will be faced with having to make life and death decisions: Who gets the last ventilator and who is left to die? Trying to keep the hospital staff from becoming infected is impossible. And _______ has no available beds, as they were virtually 100% full before this crisis hit. At the present rate of infection, the entire United States will likely be out of hospital capacity in the next couple of weeks. And it won't take that long if our hospitalization rates come anywhere close to approaching Italy's 50% rate. I realize some of you are reading this and thinking it is not that bad, or you have a relative who works in a hospital with no cases, or we cannot believe anything the government tells us. I get that. But get this — the medical professionals and other experts who are on the front lines are scared to death. _______ will not let us see our grandchildren, because they could easily be carriers and because of our ages we are vulnerable. One of the coaches who works with ________has a stepson who has a PhD. in immunology and is a professor at Cornell. Yesterday, he called his mother, who is our age, and all but ordered her not to leave her home until this is over. He said that for older people this is the worse infectious disease he has ever seen. A lot of people are talking about the comparison to the N1H1 virus, but that is an apples-to-oranges comparison. While some 68 million people got N1H1, it had a mortality rate of less than 0.3%. Also, it was similar enough to seasonal flu that most infected people had bodies that could create an immune response. The Wuhan virus or COVID-19 is new and no one on planet earth has a predisposed immune response. Also, 68 million people got H1N1 over an entire year. We’re at over 3000 cases of COVID-19 and just yesterday we were at 1,700 cases. If it doubles daily as some epidemiologists worry, we’re only a week or two away from more than a million people getting it. With a 1% and possibly higher mortality rate, this virus will kill more people while infecting fewer people than H1N1. So please do not use that as a comparison. More disconcertingly if he infection rate approaches the N1H1 infection rate the number of deaths will be staggering. Just because it has not impacted you and your community yet does not mean it won’t. It also doesn’t mean it will, but this is one time to be safe rather than sorry. So hunker down for the next couple of weeks and get reacquainted with your family, because the difference between you staying home versus you ignoring the experts' advice and hanging out in crowds could be the difference between a few thousand deaths and a few hundred thousand.

R579, I'm sure you think you're being helpful. You're not. Especially with unsubstantiated shit like this:

[quote] The ER doctors are already having to reuse their masks and they don't yet know if the masks are effective, as there is evidence that this virus may be aerosolized, meaning that even if you have a mask, your risk of infection is enormous.

Now go answer that chain letter.

It's not a chain letter, R580, though it does come from the ER doctor's parent rather than from the doctor himself. And the aerosol claim is substantiated. If this results in even one person changing behavior to prevent the spread of the virus, then I've helped.

I can post articles, too.

Don't forget this one (not yet unsubstantiated).

Coronavirus Freakout 20: The Month the Earth Stood Still.....

I'm thinking of wearing a white science suit, grey gloves and bunny ears to shop this weekend. Would a mask be over-the-top? It's hard to decide.🐇

[QUOTE] She now accepts we should just get a takeaway but still wants to go to the cinema beforehand. We're just going along with it for now and

All cinemas in the UK closed yesterday for at least the next few weeks

UK had 408 new cases yesterday. 1550 with 71 deaths.

Is there a new thread?

Well, I made one prematurely a while back.

I wouldn't blame you if you didn't want to reward my idiocy.

I think we should use it anyway, to avoid further chaos & confusion. Times are troubled enough!

We just had our sixth death here in Norway. Every time I watch the news I get more and more depressed and my anxiety is going through the roof. I wonder if it's a good idea to take a day or two away from the news.

[bold]Damn it. You bitches should have listened to me when I told you that the sky was falling.

Ok folks...my silly CV freak out is : I have to fly to Florida next Wed from Trenton airport for 4 days. I am installing window treatments that I am shipping out tomorrow. The designer wants to cancel but she needs to get furniture delivered in order to get payed. I know in a pandemic this is so "first world problems" but such is the nature of my business. I don't want to go AT ALL. You folks are saying air lines have the cleanest filtration...am I being paranoid?

😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄

Why of course they have .......

No one's ever gotten sick on a plane.

243 new cases in Belgium since yesterday 496 people are currently in the hospital 100 of these in intensive care 14 people have died

Things are getting really bad here

Personally I’m taking the risk and taking a flight this weekend. I’ve been super cautious so far barely leaving house. But the bus I have to take is more dangerous than the plane. Right now it looks like 14 seats out of 200+ are occupied - so plenty of space between people and relatively few potential infected people. The air filtration on planes is apparently one of the best.

Not ideal and most should avoid. But in my risk assessment, it’s a pragmatic risk. And it gets me out of a hot zone. And allows me to be near loved ones should they need help.

"the airplane filtration systems are the best" is the new "masks don't protect you from xoronavirus"

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