Coronavirus Freakout 13: Love In The Time Of Coronavirus

Previous thread.

Whoops! Javier's picture distracted me. Previous thread..

I'm just going to get it out there, I hate the thread title. OK, now I can go on with my life.

Should have named the thread "The Grey Gardens of Fertility" paying homage to the ever increasing numbers regarding gviral transmission of nano particles, and victims, multiplying faster than bunnies.

CNN:

Brian Stelter: Trump's behavior at CDC spoke volumes of his mindset

Title-haters gets off your butts and start the threads yourselves, then.

You title obsessed people are worse than the theatre thread title queens.

⏳ CORONA TIME 3:00 PM EST

🌎 GLOBAL :

CASES : 109,695

DEATHS : 3,802

CRITICAL : 6,125

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES :

CASES : 475

DEATHS : 19

SERIOUS : 8

Agree with r7

You lazy ungrateful whores: get on the ball and start / title the continuation threads rather than rely on us to do it.

I'm r113 from the last thread, the guy from Victoria, BC with a possible case. They have put me on hold for testing, they were going to actually send a nurse out to do a swab, but apparently they are shifting resources to a new call centre in Vancouver that I am instructed to call tomorrow morning to arrange testing locally, not sure how that's going to work.

Definite sense that they are ramping up the response, anyway.

My symptoms haven't changed much, at least they have not gotten worse. Mild sore throat, dry cough, clear sinuses, headache, achy -- standard mild flu far, minus the lack of mucus. I'm not farting nearly as much (they confirmed it's considered an associated symptom, but not all that common). The nurse I spoke to on the phone agreed self-isolation is appropriate for me, I'm very lucky that I work from home anyway. For context I am 40, white, in good health otherwise. Former smoker, quit 5 years ago, still smoke pot occasionally. No known complicating health factors otherwise.

I will update as things develop.

And let us take a moment and express our gratitude to the poster who continually updates his CORONA TIMES

Bravo sir

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

I can't find any info, but does Puerto Rico have any cases?

Thread title: Death of a Datalounger

Thread title: Princess Cruise Sale: 80% off Cruise down the River Styx

Thread Title: Death in Venice

Thanks for the update r10. I'm out east - Nova Scotia. Nothing reporting as yet. It's a little too quiet if you ask me. Typically, last night on the news, one of our major hospitals in Halifax was dealing with a major flood and had to shut down a wing. This is standard fare, happens at least once every few months. No idea how health authorities are going to cope with predicted influx of sick elderly, or any age group for that matter. One of the newscasters in Atlantic CTV (Maria Panopalis) said last Thursday evening something along the lines of "nothing to panic about, nothing serious, we're okay, ignore the media hype, all overblown." While all other news programs, were saying the opposite, including Canadians journalists out in BC.

Coronavirus Threat: To The Economy, And The Presidency | The Day That Was | MSNBC

The speed of the outbreak in Italy is terrifying to anyone who’s ever taken a math class.

Trump goin down

Quarterly exposure to water damage is not good for a hospital for crying out loud. Think of the mold spores. In a hospital of all places.

What is terrifying is that it could be exploding in the U.S. as we type and yet we won't know because this fucking administration thinks they can wish this away.

How long before Trump tries to fire Mikey Pence for contradicting him?

It is, R21. EvergreenHealth, the hospital where many of the Seattle area COVID-19 patients were treated (and died), had on its website two days ago:

[quote]The CDC has determined that COVID-19 is now endemic in the Seattle area, meaning that the virus is now considered to be regularly found in our community.

That page has been pulled, but you can still find traces of it with a Google search.

Even without public health announcements, we only need to look at the established epidemiological patterns of countries and cities that are a week or two ahead of the US. Given the percentages of infected people who become symptomatic and, of those, the percentages who die, we know the virus has been circulating widely for weeks or months.

On Friday night, ABC had an interview with a NYC ER doctor who advised they were turning away patients with mild symptoms, without testing them, and asking them to self isolate. They were only testing those with more serious symptoms. How many of those turned away rode the subway home? Stopped at the corner bodega? The thought boggles.

Also, Italy reported its first case just two weeks ago, and now has 7,375 known cases. The US' first case is already almost eight weeks old. The principles of epidemiology don't care that the US thinks it's "the greatest country in the world!!".

I posted awhile back R25 that it was strange New York City did not have one case.

Maybe this was shared already - but this is an interesting "heat map" of Coronavirus

R26: I had that same thought and we definitely know even the number now is artificially low.

How to convince corporate drones and academicians that they need to stop hosting and attending conferences?

Stock up on anti virals. Glad I started on my Tumeric.

Alex Jones? Get fucked R30

Anti vitals?

Saw someone I know who is a total deplorable, looking for location suggestions in Greece bc travel fares are so cheap! 🤯

Ontario has a lab that can test 1000 people a day.

Why new diseases keep appearing in China...

It's here in Kansas City. Woe is us.

For all you paranoid bitches, I just happened to see today that AutoZone (of all places) sells hand sanitizer. Mine had a ton of it (they sell it to sell to garages/shops). I mentioned to the guy that I couldn't believe they had so much. He said that no one thinks of AutoZone for hand sanitizer.

I bought 3 bottles.

State Department finally issues a warning against cruise ships.

Yay! That was my favorite title! Great job!

That's a good one, R27.

This one focuses on North America only. The developers seem quick to update with new cases (they seem to be collated from many sources). They also cite sources, news, supplies, and even major corporate WFH policies.

The current administration isn't capable of handling an emergency. Trump shouldn't be allowed to run again.

My company is still flying people around for completely pointless meetings at our multiple locations. This seems to be a prestige thing among the higher ups. I think they cannot admit to themselves that the company would be just fine if they used Skype.

Rump's waist grows more and more as this crisis becomes more dire.

I live in Europe. When the crisis first hit Italy, all non essential business trips to the affected areas were immediately cancelled. Ditto for the entire US even though there were relatively few reported cases there relative to the population and most of these were on the west coast. It was clear that a disaster was brewing there and this is only the beginning

Wife of 50-year-old NY lawyer infected with COVID-19 speaks out:

R42 once this really kicks in we’ll start having everything teleconference and it’ll become the regular. CEOs and the corps will pocket the savings and those cocksuckers in middle management will lose their perk expense benefits. Fuck ‘em all.

A man in his 60s has become the third person to die after testing positive for COVID-19 in the UK. He had significant underlying health problems and had recently returned from Italy.

It's not clever or punny, but it fits the melody:

Title: #Pardon Me Boys, is This the Coronavirus WuFlu?

R45 link, "I and my family" has to be grammatically incorrect. Grammar trolls, would "My family and I" be correct?

CPAC: Potential Disease Cluster.

Trump Admin: Actual Disease Clusterfuck.

Open the book. Is Sarah's name and number in there?

When I worked in a nursing home in my college days, a large percentage of patients transferred from hospitals to our facility came to us with CDiff. We even had one with MRSA. The beauty of it all, the rarely ever informed the nursing home prior to dropping them off.

It actually was great money for a college kid, but it was the worst job I've had in my life. Chronically understaffed, overworked, and nurses who tried to blame us for their errors. The residents deserved so much better, but you can't properly give patients the time and care they deserve when you have 15-16 patients to care for in a shift. Looking back, I can't believe I did that job for almost five years.

Another death today and 60 new cases in the UK. You can still get flights from London airports to Milan, too. Very disorganised.

'Should have named the thread "The Grey Gardens of Fertility'

Never heard of that film. The title we have is better but not as good as Quarantine of Solace or World War C instead of World War Z

The Daily Beast is reporting that Iran is 'temporarily' releasing 54.000 prisoners to prevent outbreaks in their facilities.

Just wait until it comes to a prison or jail near you!

I love the thread title. ❤🤗

How about ‘Captain Corelli's Pangolin’?

lol, R57. I love it.

Maybe the pangolin can become one of DL's holiday animals?

How about Coronavirus: Lifeless In Seattle?

Too rude?

A silver lining in all of this is that working from home and online schooling may become much more widespread as people realize it can be set up quickly, saves money on several levels, and affects almost nothing in the day to day operations of many workplaces. We've had the technology to make it widespread for at least a decade now but boomer-age employers have been reluctant to let go of their old ways, citing a loss of productivity and other widely disproven nonsense. Many workplaces will return to work in-house once things settle back down, but many won't.

R49, it's considered polite when giving a list of people that includes yourself, to put yourself last.

^^not for DL.

R63 meant for R60

Coronovirus is being hyped big time by all media. Please keep it in perspective. 20,000 deaths from the flu in the US this year. It's all going to be OK. Over 7,000,000,000 people on the plant and 109,000 cases of Coronovirus. The percentage of cases to the world population doesn't even register a fraction. If this was Smallpox or Ebola I would say you could panic. It's just not that bad.

The 60 Minutes segment tonight wasn’t exactly reassuring.

Gov. Andrew Cuomo urges CDC to allow more local coronavirus testing

I damn! I always miss 60 Minutes when something good was on !

Am I terrible to hope someone infected goes to one of Rump’s ‘rallies’ ?

Again, the media is working overtime to hype this and create hysteria. This too shall pass.

Brian Tyler Cohen:

Ben Carson CALLED OUT on air for putting Trump rallies ahead of American lives

Ted Cruz to self-quarantine.

Votes must be in person, unless some emergency measures are implemented.

R71 whatever he just wants to stay home and binge on porn

To the guy who collected all the proposed thread titles but couldn’t establish a link to surveymonkey, and other: you can take a screenshot or screenshots, then post the pictures on Imgur. Remember to label it as “Hidden”. We’ll all still be able to link to it. I write this in case you can’t find a better solution.

[quote]Wife of 50-year-old NY lawyer infected with COVID-19 speaks out

New Rochelle ... New Rochelle ... that's the place where the outbreak will be

For me and the doughy middle-aged man

I picked out for marrying me

Has anyone checked on Rob and Laura?

I'm assuming The Gold Rush Twins will be cancelled.

R65, so you’re saying a disease that is proven to be 20x more deadly than the flu, wirh exponential spread, China putting nearly its entire population on lockdown for almost two months (and Italy following suit), supply chain disruptions, shortages, etc is just hype?

I can't see how anyone can say it's just hype, given how many people have died in Italy in such a short period.

I don’t understand why the CDC doesn’t use the WHO test, until their own test is widely available.

^ Just to add, I don't mean we should be panicking. I just mean that we should be vigilant and should follow the guidelines as best we can. Even if you're young and have a healthy immune system, you don't want to risk passing the virus on to someone vulnerable.

A thread specifically about thread titles, to quarantine that discussion from this thread.

R77 - I don't want to see anyone die from a virus - but again, 20,000 deaths in the US this year alone related to the flu. No one panics. No closures. No food shortages. No media hysteria. 20,000 deaths in the US vs 3,678 deaths from Coronovirus. Calm down.

And from the Examiner - 'He sleeps less than I do, and he's healthier': Surgeon general dismisses fears of Trump catching coronavirus

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Surgeon General Jerome Adams sought to calm concerns about President Trump catching the coronavirus by claiming the 73-year-old commander in chief is in better health than him.

“Speaking of being at risk, the president, he sleeps less than I do, and he's healthier than what I am,” Adams, who is in his mid-40s, told CNN’s State of the Union on Sunday.

[quote] R46: [R42] once this really kicks in we’ll start having everything teleconference and it’ll become the regular. CEOs and the corps will pocket the savings and those cocksuckers in middle management will lose their perk expense benefits

They had said at the beginning that we’ll have to get used to changes in the way we live. Something like that.

I believe the Party nominating conventions will be cancelled, and all the candidates should cease rallies and glad handing now. Fat chance of the latter. I guess we’ll have to hope their natural immunity is effective in fighting the virus.

But it's way more infectious than the flu and possibly more deadly depending on the strain.

Ugh at the Surgeon General. He looks 17

[quote] R53: Another death today and 60 new cases in the UK. You can still get flights from London airports to Milan, too. Very disorganised.

Aside from the danger and all that, can you imagine what a shitty vacation it will be? Most shops and museums will be closed. They may not even be able to find restaurants and grocery stores to get food.

[quote] R59: Maybe the pangolin can become one of DL's holiday animals?

It might be the only one left in a couple months. Sorry, Christmas Moose.

I have laryngitis. No fever and I don’t feel sick. Should I get tested?

No fever, no coronavirus.

[quote] R65: Coronovirus is being hyped big time by all media. Please keep it in perspective. 20,000 deaths from the flu in the US this year. It's all going to be OK.

I starting to worry about the number who are sick at the same time. It’s the stuff of a s I-fi movie.

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The authorities are trying to downplay the economic impacts of this scare, by fall we are going to be in a 9/11-like economic spiral.

The silver lining - this is going to be terrible for Trump.

I quit drinking 15 years ago. I wonder if it’s time to start again?

I think the CDC is going to have to rollout it’s coming vaccine before the 6-month safety-check period. I’m impressed, though, that they’ve stated that a vaccine is possible and they will develop it in a year.

My husband is friends with an infectious diseases doctor/expert and told me today his friend {who has been working on COVID19 since the start} said they believe that children could be carriers of this. Many are not getting sick but are passing it along to others. There is an usually low number of children getting sick from COVID19 in China and other parts of the world. They are confirming this by the end of this coming week.

Another Congress person (Paul Gosar) is self-quarantining after being exposed to Covid-19 at CPAC last week (Ted Cruz is the other one.) From Twitter:

[quote]1. I am announcing that I, along with 3 of my senior staff, are officially under self-quarantine after sustained contact at CPAC with a person who has since been hospitalized with the Wuhan Virus. My office will be closed for the week.

and Twitter is all a-twitter about it being RACIST to call it the ‘Wuhan Virus’ instead of COVID-19.

r12 no. I spoke to my brother in law at 9pm. He is a Dr. and is in PR for the winter and he said there are no known cases there yet.

The flu may kill 20,000 a year but how many people really knew that? we know what the flu is, we can get a vaccine to help in case we do get the flu. Panic is caused by the unknown. We know next to nothing about 19. On top of that, place lying Trump and you create panic.

People Over 60 Told to Avoid Crowded Areas

The US is in the tank with 3M over the test. It’s all about $$$ not expediency.

That Surgeon General is another Trump ass licker just like Mother Pence.

r90, I don't know about that. I never run a fever, no matter how sick I am. My mother was the same way, even when she was hospitalized for pneumonia: no fever.

⏳ CORONA TIME 10:00 PM EST

🌎 GLOBAL :

CASES: 110,051

DEATHS: 3,828

CRITICAL: 5,976

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES :

CASES: 540

DEATHS: 22

CRITICAL: 8

*** The US had 106 new cases, and 3 new deaths reported today.

The number of critical cases remains at 8, and has been at that number for several days. That is most likely an incorrect total.

To R65 and the other "it's just the flu" posters:

Yes, the flu kills tens of thousands per year, but that’s after having infected tens of millions. By contrast, COVID-19 has “only” killed about 3,800 people, but it’s also “only” infected just over 100,000. The flu's infection and mortality rates are somewhat predictable. COVID-19 is new and unpredictable (and without any treatment or vaccine). So it isn’t about the overall tally, it’s about what percentage of the infected actually die. Flu: [bold]0.01-0.02%[/bold]. COVID-19: [bold]2-3.5%[/bold]. It’s about mortality rates. And this isn't even addressing contagion and mutations (COVID-19 is at least twice as contagious and has mutated at least once, resulting in a far more virulent strain).

Think of it this way: You’re a newly hired salesbottom at a shop with one other salesbottom, who has worked at the shop for years. Over the course of any given year, your coworker averages selling [bold]2[/bold] caftans to each customer who enters the store. He’s done this for years and years, predictably. You, the new sales bottom, in just a few short months, manage to sell an average of [bold]20[/bold] caftans to each customer. Extrapolate these rates for one full year (you selling 20 caftans to each customer and your coworker selling 2 to each customer). Who will sell the most caftans?

[quote]By contrast, COVID-19 has “only” killed about 3,800 people, but it’s also “only” infected just over 100,000.

We actually don't know how many people were infected, because it could have been spreading for months to people who thought it was just the flu and recovered. 80% of people worldwide have recovered—50,000 who were confirmed to have the virus, at last count.

A simpler explanation is that based on sample size, Covid-19 is more deadly. Of known cases, 3-4 people out of 100 are dying. I also think it’s much more widespread than people are aware. They need to test in areas and then act accordingly. The Trump gang is wasting time.

J'adore R103!

R103, thank you for the caftan sale example. I now understand the point that you are making.

The Indian Wells Tennis Tournament in Riverside County, California has been cancelled due to the spread of the Coronavirus.

Thanks R98

Washington Post - People are trying to flee in advance of the lockdown in Italy

[quote]Confusion spreads as Italy tries to lock down16 million people

[quote] Italy on Sunday launched a complicated and urgent plan to restrict the movement of roughly 16 million people, a measure that unleashed confusion about how it could be enforced and whether it would be enough to slow the spread of the coronavirus....

[quote] The plan to lock down large swaths of the north was the first major attempt by a democracy during the coronavirus crisis to radically halt the routines of daily life — an effort that will have significant impacts on civil liberties.

[quote] But in the hours before and after the measure became law, people continued to stream out of the northern hubs of Milan and Venice on trains and planes for southern Italy or elsewhere in Europe.

Here is tonight’s Coronavirus email from Delta Airlines:

As a valued member of the Delta family, I appreciate the trust you place in us and our people worldwide when you travel.

In the current environment, it’s important for all of us to travel smarter and more consciously. That’s why I want to personally update you on the situation with COVID-19 (the coronavirus) and the steps we are taking to ensure your health and safety in your travels.

For more than a decade, Delta has been preparing for such a scenario. As a global airline, we have strong relationships in place with health experts including the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), the World Health Organization (WHO), the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and local health authorities worldwide. We are in constant contact with them to make sure our policies and procedures meet or exceed their guidelines.

Operations are our lifeblood. We’ve learned from past experience with outbreaks like H1N1 and Ebola, and have continually refined and improved our ability to protect our customers. That includes the way we circulate clean and fresh air in our aircraft with highly advanced HEPA filters, the new fogging procedures in our cleaning process, how we sanitize aircraft between flights and how we respond if a customer is displaying symptoms.

A full report on the measures Delta is taking to help you have a healthy flying experience is available here. It outlines our expanded cleaning and disinfecting at our airports and on board our aircraft; distribution of hand sanitizer and amenity kits to help customers stay clean; and the technology on our aircraft to filter and replace cabin air.

A command center in Atlanta has been stood up to guide our response, leading our global team of thousands of Delta professionals dedicated to this effort. That includes our reservations specialists handling thousands of incoming calls, our flight crews and Airport Customer Service (ACS) agents taking extra care of our customers, and our TechOps and operations coordination teams keeping the airline moving. This world-class group of airline employees has your back, and I have never been prouder of the women and men of Delta.

To ensure you always have access to the latest information and guidance, we have a website on the COVID-19 situation that is continually being updated with cleaning policies and actions we’re implementing to keep you safe, ways you can stay healthy while flying, and changes to our flight schedules and waiver information. Transparency is one of our core values, and we are committed to keeping you fully informed as the situation evolves.

While we’re committed to providing you with information you need to make informed decisions around your travel, we also understand the need for flexibility based on your individual circumstances. To make sure you can travel with confidence, we’re offering flexible waivers, and we’ve also adjusted our network in response to guidance from the State Department.

We understand that in today’s world, travel is fundamental to our business and our lives, which is why it can’t – and shouldn’t – simply stop. I believe Delta’s mission of connecting the world and creating opportunities is never more important than at times like this.

Thank you for your continued trust in Delta, and I look forward to seeing you in my own travels throughout the year.

My apologies to whoever tweeted this first but man, I love

“I WENT TO CPAC AND ALL I GOT WAS THE SCHLAPP”

I’d love that on a t-shirt.

What are you lunatics going to do now that allergy season is starting very early, and it’s going to be absolutely hellish this year in the Northeast with this moderate winter?

Sneeze, R113?

[quote]A simpler explanation is that based on sample size, Covid-19 is more deadly. Of known cases, 3-4 people out of 100 are dying.

It also needs to be heavily emphasized that mostly old people are dying. Trump and those seniors who have positions of power need to make it known to their peers that they are most at risk and to not ignore the CDC's warning. I had to talk one of my friends who is 66 out of going on a cruise next week! Some older people are stubborn and think they always know what's best. We have never seen anything like this and a lot of seniors are going to die if they aren't careful.

The short version of that Delta message:

We are not medically trained. Fly at your own risk.

#KungFlu is trending.

Twitter is two weeks behind Datalounge. Is that comforting, or disturbing?

R117 yet again gay men come up with it up and everyone else copies.

MARKETS Dow futures tumble 1,200 points, Treasury yields plunge amid oil price war

Oil Drops 31% in Worst Loss Since Gulf War as Price Fight Erupts

CNN-Arizona Rep. Paul Gosar and Texas Sen. Ted Cruz are under self-quarantine

Arizona Republican Rep. Paul Gosar and Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz announced Sunday that they are both self-quarantining after coming into contact with an individual at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), who later tested positive for the virus.

Gosar: The congressman said he was with the infected individual for "an extended period of time" and the two of them shook hands several times.

“I am not currently experiencing any symptoms, nor is any member of my staff. However, in order to prevent any potential transmission, I will remain at my home in Arizona until the conclusion of the 14 day period following my interaction with this individual,” Gosar said in a statement.

Gosar said he has been in contact with the House physician, and said that he is closing his Washington office this week “out of an abundance of caution.”

Cruz: The senator also said in a statement that his exposure to the individual had consisted of "a brief conversation and a handshake."

Cruz said he is “not experiencing any symptoms,” but that he will stay in Texas for 14 days “out of an abundance of caution.”

14 days is thought to be the incubation period for the virus -- that's how long it can take to get sick after being exposed to the virus.

CNN-South Korea confirms 248 more cases, raising national total to 7,382

It sounds like a lot -- but this is the lowest number of new infections per day since February 26.

There was one new death on Sunday. The national death toll is at 51.

CNN-Nearly 16 million people are under lockdown in Italy

The lockdown areas, or "red zones," are subject to strict measures, including the cancellation of all public events, civil and religious ceremonies, closure of schools and universities, and the cancellation of sporting events.

The announcement came after Italy saw a dramatic spike of 1,247 confirmed novel coronavirus cases on Saturday.

why the fuck are people still going to churches? it's so dumb, they are gonna get sick and die.

Comparing the common flu virus to the Corona Virus is like comparing a common Slovenian whore to Michelle Obama.

[quote]R96 His friend (who has been working on COVID19 since the start) said they believe that children could be carriers of this.

I hate kids.

R126, yes, I agree, another reason to hate them!

[quote]and Twitter is all a-twitter about it being RACIST to call it the ‘Wuhan Virus’ instead of COVID-19.

Gosar is a white nationalist and a expert player of the dog-whistle game. Don’t think for a second that he didn’t know what he was doing by using that terminology.

R103 The guy who survives The Corona ?

Indian Wells 2020 (tennis) cancelled.

Was that really the Pope who threw open the window shutters and waved to the crowd today, or was that a stunt double?

FDNY firefighters will no longer join paramedics, EMTs and police officers on certain non-life threatening 911 calls as a precaution to protect personnel from the coronavirus - WNBC

Seattle has copied S.Korea and has turned a hospital garage into drive thru clinic that can test a patient every 5 min-results within a day or so...via npr.org

r130, the fuckers should have cancelled it a week ago. Instead, they cancelled it hours before the start after thousands have flown in for it.

Australia is so fucked.

80 cases to date. Most of them imported (from China, Iran, the US and a host of other countries and most of these are citizens who have returned home - very few foreign nationals by the way). They have actually traced back all but one case. They could limit the people coming into the country (i.e. ban tourists and force citizens returning home into quarantine for 2 weeks in Darwin or Christmas Island) but instead its all about $$$$$$$$.

The Governments (at federal and state levels) are telling people not to panic buy but at the same time telling the public the virus will take a strong hold here, that's its not a matter or if but when and lots of lives will be lost.

I really think they don't give a flying fuck about potential deaths. Their first thoughts appears to be all about $$$ and lets face it every Prime Minsters from John Howard to ScoMo have been happy to risk young Australian lives serving in useless wars so its no surprise that they are happy to let a virus that they could potentially keep out of the country for a number of months just fly on in and take out a whole bunch of people.

Just hope that in the event that civil unrest ensures that people remember to target all the past and present useless politicians from the last 25 years.

Tonight we're gonna party like it's 1899!

New global theme song! Needs a hip hop remix.

This is really fucked up.

😱 What about the DataLounge Summer Picnic and the Christmas Party?

I hope we don't have to cancel !

The ironic thing is that during the Black Death, Milan the and area around it was mostly spared. Now they are one of the worst hit clusters.

Both times they quarantined themselves.

First with China, and now with South Korea, it seems that the worst infection spread lasts about a month or so. Factories are reopening in China and both of these countries have seen the lowest number of new cases in the last couple of days. If the numbers were only coming out of China, I might question their accuracy but South Korea is on top of this shit.

The bad news is that we are on the upswing portion of the infection rates and Trump and Co. are completely fucking inept. However, a whole lot of America is populated at much lower densities than most of the high infection countries. The larger cities, which are also our transportation hubs, are where there will be problems. Old people should isolate themselves as much as possible for the next month or so. We'll be over the hump by then.

The hype is media bullshit. Everything is now a reality show for ratings. Flurries become Snowpocalypse, more than a drizzle means you need to build an ark, and Corona becomes the zombie plague come to kill us all! Wash your hands. You'll be fine.

This NIH doc seems like a real smug asshole. If he goes along with any of the administrations schemes AND PUTS LIVES AT RISK then he needs to correct the record.

This guy too! What’s his deal?

Are these people appointed by the thuggish administration? Are these political appointees?

Princess Cruises invite you to be the first to book your summer cruise aboard our brand-spanking-new cruise ship [italic] The Hotel California.

This guy too.

This is the Coronavirus squad.

If they are covering up a catastrophic mess then they need to come out with it.

They are medical professionals, not PR operatives.

They didn’t let the lady in the scarf speak when they first introduced everyone.

She walked up like she was going to speak and Pence cut her off.

My hope is that sometime soon, administration people will simply start ignorING everything Trump says, including “You’re fired”. They could return the next day to work as if the firing never happened.

The collapse on Wall Street might be the catalyst for a real Panic! at the Costco.

How close is coronavirus to films like Contagion and Outbreak? EW asks the experts.

Yeah my friend had to cancel her AirBnB a few hours ago, when we were at dinner. Fortunately we live in L..A.

Arrrgh r152 was the reply for r134.

What's the use of closing schools,foregoing travel, shutting borders and quarantining millions if the thousands of untraceable and unrestricted heavy breathing,spittle sputtering,mental midgets fighting over toilet paper at Costco are allowed to roam free ?

Costco toilet paper aisles: ground zeros!

Futures dropped another hundred points.

There was a commercial for a cruise tonight and they said it had a free open bar. They are really trying to sell it!

My nephew's team is going to Canada over spring break, do you think that's safe?

Several schoolchildren in Australia have the virus, one as young as ten. Maybe a new, more virulent strain?

If they serve Corona at the open bar, I'm in.

It's kids UNDER ten that seem immune. I don't think there's been a single death of very young children from this, has there? If there has, they've been extremely few.

We had 2 teens from here die from vaping, but I haven't seen any of them dying from the Coronavirus yet but maybe in China?

this virus attacks the lungs, if teens vape and their lungs are not in good shape then they will die...who knows?

the 33yr old uber driver in NY has an underlying respiratory issue, he's in serious condition in hospital.

Stay fit people. Never been a better time to look after ourselves.

If that guy has any new videos please post a link. I. Tried to Subscribe but couldn’t.

Translation of that Delta message at R111:

"We will be making a token effort to appear to clean our aircraft, but buddy if you think you're gonna get a refund from us for your trip to Venice, go fuck yourself!"

Sylvia you cunt you better not starting another lame name wuhan flu freakout thread. Subtitles off? LAME!!!!

Start your own thread, lazy sow.

“I don’t want them adding to my numbers”

[quote]Ted Cruz to self-quarantine.

What was interesting to me about his statement is that physicians say "testing is not effective before symptoms manifest." That makes sense, but I hadn't seen it spelled out before.

[quote]Ted Cruz to self-quarantine.

Seems to be about 27 years too late.

R167 you lazy ungrateful twat....get off your fat ass and start a thread before this thread reaches 600 posts.

The other Senators must be breathing such a sigh of relief. Not so much because of their fear of COVID, but because they don't have to look at him for two weeks.

Some scientists (other than Herr Trump) are saying that warmer weather could stop the Coronavirus spread because the virus is more stable in colder temperatures.

I wonder if this knowledge applies to previous Coronavirus strains or specifically to COVID-19?

Its spread in Africa, the Middle East, and the Southern Hemisphere kind of goes against that theory, no?

It’s spreading in Malaysia with zero issues, a place with 100 degree weather and 100% humidity.

R156 I actually saw an advertisement for Pacific Cruises at the cinema tonight - the audience hissed and booed.

sounds lovely

⏳ CORONA TIME 8:30 AM EST

🌎 GLOBAL :

CASES: 111,464

DEATHS: 3,883

CRITICAL: 5,979

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES :

CASES: 554

DEATHS: 22

CRITICAL: 8

Politcalwire has a headline: Trump in the time of Coronavirus....again DL did it first!

CNBC is openly speculating we’re going to see a circuit breaker trip today.

R175, that’s exactly what I was thinking which is why I was surprised to see actual scientists making this claim.

R165

The guy doing those videos (Chris Martenson) took yesterday off, so there was no new video.

If you haven’t watched this one, it’s an excellent overview of what the world is up against. Doesn’t make it easier that governments have squandered time or that the average American forges ahead blithely believing the US will be magically unaffected by this.

R168 R172 Actually I want nothing to with starting these threads. The original thread started out as a calm down thread, Wuhan Flu is nothing to worry about. Now, it is a hot mess about freaking out from it, completely off the rail of the original thread. Honestly, I blame the original OP for not controlling her creation.

R180 actually it's been widely used before now, the title was a dud, despite the TEN THOUSAND POSTS DISCUSSING FUCKING TITLES.

Everyone involved should kill themselves!

Everyone I know who was going on vacation over spring break with their kids is still going. DEATH AND DESTRUCTION!

[quote] I blame the original OP for not controlling her creation.

Yes, because controlling threads on the DL is something TOTALLY doable.

And is ALWAYS the responsibility of the original OP.

The original OP is a maker of the "Dangling Tendrils" threads which is why this one has such a stupid prefix. Meghan-hate does weird things to the brain stem.

I predict that the Caftan wearing and pearl clutching will reach an all time record high during the third week of March.

Max von Sydow has died! Now you cunts need to line up and start apologizing for mocking the last thread.

Liz Specht (BS in Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering at Johns Hopkins University and PhD from the Division of Biological Sciences at the University of California San Diego) outlines how a 12-18mo is likely not realistic.

[quote]There's something big missing in the conversation re: how fast we could potentially develop and deploy a vaccine at large scale. This article does a great job stating realistic timeframes (12-18mo) while also discussing how novel approaches may alter that:

[quote]Noteworthy quote from that piece above: "A covid-19 vaccine developed, licensed, and manufactured at a global scale in twelve months would be an unprecedented, remarkable, even revolutionary achievement. No other vaccine has come close to being developed that quickly."

[quote]However, what's not being mentioned is that these timeframe estimates are based on historical development timelines, when the workforce has not been significantly impacted. Vaccines don't just develop themselves. They're developed and manufactured by humans.

[quote]We've already seen multiple workplaces - *including* biomedical research institutes - implement work-from-home policies for anyone other than "essential personnel" (which is often limited to key staff who maintain, for example, cell culture or vivarium facilities).

[quote]If widespread workplace shutdowns or restrictions even marginally impact the level of productivity of the remaining staff, this throws off our estimates for typical vaccine development timeframes.

[quote]Keep in mind also that individual researchers may have ill family members to care for, disrupted childcare routines due to partners' workplace shutdowns, & other disruptions in their lives that make 12-hour days in the lab unfeasible, even if that is their typical modus operandi.

⏳ CORONA TIME 8:30 AM EST

What is your source BTW?

One thing I like about the Johns Hopkins map is they list recoveries. Showing at 111,356 confirmed cases and 62,375 recovered. We could use a little good news on this thread.

I haven't been following these threads but I have a little something to add. A friend of mine still works at an internationally known retail icon. Word has been leaking out that the higher ups are freaking out about the Coronavirus as it has been greatly affecting their foreign markets. Bigly. My friend said the big wigs are very worried about the full impact and that they are certain this is only the tip of the iceberg.

Apologies if this doesn't belong in this thread.

Market down 1800 points. Circuit breaker what?

R193 Abercrombie and Fitch?

Trading halted as market collapses.

R195 I said "iconic," not over-priced and pathetic.

Was it American Eagle??

If anyone needs any tips on coping during lean times, I've got your backs.

American Eagle, with "50% Off EVERYTHING!" and "Buy One, Get One FREE!" posters in the window?

American Eagle never caused a national craze.

The French government just announced: no gatherings of more than 1K people allowed.

999 people infecting each other is OK, apparently.

And, coincidentally, the star of that art house plague epic, THE SEVENTH SEAL, is dead.

The source, R192, is WORLDOMETER.

It also lists recoveries and many other stats per every country, too numerous to post.

14 min ago - CNN. You have got to be fucking kidding me. He is the most delusional person on earth.

Trump's tweeting about coronavirus this morning From CNN's Jason Hoffman

President Trump is continuing to tweet on the coronavirus response.

He thanked Vice President Pence and the coronavirus task force, and once again praised his decision to shut down travel from parts of the world that had been impacted by the virus.

"Great job being done by the @VP and the CoronaVirus Task Force. Thank you!" he said in one tweet.

"The BEST decision made was the toughest of them all - which saved many lives. Our VERY early decision to stop travel to and from certain parts of the world!" he said in another.

Mandatory orders may be ahead to slow spread of coronavirus in WA state, Gov. Inslee hints

Wanna be @ r199 .......

Lean times? It's not just about food buddy, I survived Ebola AND the current locust plague.

I'm a lean, mean Orphan Machine.

[italic] What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

From Italy:

Media reports said bars and restaurants emptied and thousands of people tried to leave the region in cars and trains, where there were reports of shoving and pushing by passengers.

Violent protests have broken out in 27 Italian prisons against coronavirus restrictions with many inmates asking for an amnesty due to the virus emergency, news agency ANSA reported Monday, citing local sources.

Some 20 inmates had managed to break out of Foggia prison in Puglia during a riot Monday morning, ANSA said citing local sources. Shop keepers in the area were told to close their shops in the vicinity of the prison.

Prison unrest broke out in a prison in Modena Sunday after inmates were informed that visits from relatives had been banned to prevent the spread of infection. In the south, relatives of detainees in a Poggioreale prison in Naples clashed with police against the government ban.

The Johns Hopkins COVID-19 case tracker seems have crashed. The other website I've been using that tracks North American stats (1Point3Acres), is also not reporting any new cases.

CNN: “According to estimates from the US Department of Health and Human Services...even with a moderate outbreak, 200,000 people in the United States will need intensive care. The United States has less than 100,000 ICU beds.”

46 new cases in the UK today. High, but not as high as yesterday's rise of 67.

Hopefully, R208, all 200,000 patients will not need those 100,000 beds at the same time

Tiny children are the new bats.

Children can be nasty, don't you think?

Clear, well-written article re: current understanding of COVID-19's mortality:

The severity of impact for ICUs will be regional, as well. The red states have cut taxes to such a point that many of their hospital's have been shut down, particularly in rural regions. Everyone will head to the city hospitals.

[quote]Hopefully, [R208], all 200,000 patients will not need those 100,000 beds at the same time

Our government squandered the only chance we had at that. The American public has chosen not to engage with reality and, in their willful ignorance, decided that what's happening everywhere else won't happen here. We could have been proactive instead of reactive in order to slow this pandemic. Now it's spread too far too fast. We'll see exponential spread and our healthcare system will be under enormous stress, if not collapse altogether.

[quote]Tiny children are the new bats.

I'm waiting for my apology.

I’m not defending Trump’s response to this crisis (it’s been awful), but would anything have made a difference? China has supposedly drastically reduced transmission, but won’t cases spike again as things go back to “normal?”

A highly contagious virus with a 2 - 14++ day incubation period that produces no to little symptoms in a significant recent age of the infected is going to be impossible to stop, isn’t it? At least once tens of thousands are infected already.

I suspect the real plan is to try and somewhat control the pace of infections so that people aren’t dying in the street and some business and services remain operational while desperately trying to come up with a vaccine or cure.

Friend in Miami said a bunch of tourists from Italy arrived to AirBnB a condo in his building.

R217's "I’m not defending Trump’s response to this crisis" is the new "Lifelong Liberal Democrat here who voted for Obama twice, but Hillary..."

Troll.

WTF are you taking about, R219? I never claimed to be a “lifelong liberal democrat” and my post isn’t political. I only mentioned Trump’s response to make it clear I wasn’t defending it.

Dangers From Coronavirus Beyond The Politics Of The Hour | Morning Joe | MSNBC

For one thing, I think the White House interfered with the availability of tests. He also could direct the CDC to use the WHO test until their own test is ready to be distributed.

He could have encouraged people to stock-up on supplies weeks ago. He could have banned large gatherings. Who else knows what? He could stop lying about this whole thing.

My Princess Cruise of California leaving in the 28th hasn’t been cancelled yet. Still waiting to see what happens.

R222, All those things would be better and more appropriate than what he did (maybe not encouraging people to stock up on supplies, panic and hoarding doesn’t help).

But would it have mattered? I don’t think this can be stopped. That doesn’t make a poor response OK.

If a vaccine is available in six months then, yes, a better response would have made a big difference. But 18 months?

Dr. Anthony Fauci said on TV last weekend not to take a cruise.

Can I have your stuff R223?

I was looking at a cruise on MSC for May. That sucker is 4 nights for less than $500 for a solo traveler. I'm honestly thinking about it.

[quote]My Princess Cruise of California leaving in the 28th hasn’t been cancelled yet. Still waiting to see what happens.

Count on it not happening. Anyone who thinks their vacation/cruise/travel plans in the near-to-distant future will be feasible is innumerate or engaging in magical thinking.

R224, there are people who think the virus is fake news, a Democratic plot. I think there will be plenty of people who get financially wiped-out from this. Others will get unnecessarily sick. We’ll never know how intelligent leadership would have helped us, because we don’t have it.

Here's where Trump fucked up. He didn't demand to work with the Chinese and insist they open up to our experts so we could work with them to contain this in December! Speed is of the essence for containment.

Secondly, he lied repeatedly because he wanted to "keep the numbers down" so the stock market would stabilize. But it didn't. Third and probably most important, they deliberately slowed the distribution of test kits, which would have helped us quantify and predict the spread.

Test kits are easy and cheap and they could have had them available faster and sooner. Fourth, the test kits analysis could have been handled differently. The fact is right now, Bill Gates funded program is producing test kits to make sure doctors have them readily available.

No attention was given to healthcare workers or hospitals, nursing homes etc. as to how they can protect themselves. In general, Trump has been living in his own private bubble where he has ignored the virus, ignored the spread, and obstructed the ability for experts including the CDC to get data and work on basic information.

How long is the incubation period? How easily is it spread? What is the contagion period? How long can the virus survive on surfaces? So far all they've given us is "Wash your hands" and "Avoid crowds."

Fuck Trump, Pence and all those corrupt, incompetent, vicious bastards. McConnell wouldn't even release legislation until a cap was removed on how much the pharmaceutical companies could charge for various virus related remedies, including vaccines once we get them, and pneumococcal vaccines. The Republicans are shit and Trump is the worst of them. He embodies everything that is despicable, immoral, and vile in this world.

I have a conference coming up at the end of April that I'm betting isn't going to happen.

Why is Princess dragging their feet then? We set sail the 28th. How much longer do I have to wait to find out what the hell is going on? I’m gonna call them today.

The secondary effects may be far worse because the response was poor. I’m just not convinced that the ultimate number of infected and fatalities could have been influenced that much by more aggressive, earlier action.

My brother is usually a smart man but he flew from New England to Florida on Friday for a 4-day vacation. The next day, the news was that the CDC said that elderly people shouldn’t fly. He’s 62. Besides, if an elderly person can catch the virus by flying, then anyone can.

[quote]China has supposedly drastically reduced transmission, but won’t cases spike again as things go back to “normal?”

We have absolutely no reason to believe cases won't spike again once people begin returning to work and their hometowns (remember, many millions traveled for the Lunar New Year and have yet to go back to their places of residence). Yet, the Pollyanas keep citing China's slowdown of new cases as evidence that the problem has been solved.

How much you want to bet that some other country develops a vaccine before we do. The fact is we don't even know what we don't know because as Trump has done with every other federal department, he has interfered with the ability to do the job. it will be impossible to develop a vaccine within a year. Period. That is a fact.

25+ new cases in the US today.

The nursing home that is the hot spot in Washington state is still insisting that many of the residents who died were simply victims of old age, not Corona.

Andrew Cuomo is giving a press conference saying that the state is going to start producing its own hand sanitizer to give to local governments and that if Amazon and eBay don’t stop price gouging

...don't stop price gouging, they're going to put it on the market at cost.

R236 Indeed, if the vaccine is developed in the US, it will likely come from the private sector, not our joke of a government. Best case scenario is 18 months to deployment and even that is iffy. See R191.

@SweeneyABC BREAKING: A D.C. priest has Coronavirus. He offered communion and shook hands with more than 500 worshippers last week and on February 24th. All worshippers who visited the Christ Church in Georgetown must self-quarantine. Church is cancelled for the first time since the 1800's

“He didn't demand to work with the Chinese and insist they open up to our experts so we could work with them to contain this in December! Speed is of the essence for containment.”

China didn’t even tell people this was a problem until January 22. Trump can’t “demand” China do anything. Numerous requests were made for the us to go in and help/research this virus and China wouldn’t allow it.

“Secondly, he lied repeatedly because he wanted to "keep the numbers down" so the stock market would stabilize. But it didn't. Third and probably most important, they deliberately slowed the distribution of test kits, which would have helped us”

Might I remind you there are less than 600 cases in the USA. Seriously get a grip. More people contract other diseases and die from them then this.

I’m beginning to think this is a huge overreaction fed by the media outlets. And I’m someone who stocked up. But when you look at the numbers vs. the population of our country - more people die in an auto accident then this.

The head of the Port Authority tested positive.

😈 We're coming for you, Donald ..........

r242, it's just getting started. I think the real threat might be from a mutation.

R242 there are "only " 600 cases...that we know of. Because of the piss poor availability and coordination on testing we don't know how many cases there are. Look. This Administration's "response" to this catastrophe is INDEFENSIBLE.

With the new reports, New York is now ahead of Washington in confirmed cases.

R232, you are one stupid cunt. Did you not see what happened to Diamond Princess in Japan, and all the other cruises? Those who were healthy, went on these cruises and got he fucking virus...

There are 2 women in brooklyn who got the virus after going on the Egyptian cruise.

You want to get infection? Dumbest cunt ever!

[quote]Our government squandered the only chance we had at that. The American public has chosen not to engage with reality and, in their willful ignorance, decided that what's happening everywhere else won't happen here. We could have been proactive instead of reactive in order to slow this pandemic. Now it's spread too far too fast. We'll see exponential spread and our healthcare system will be under enormous stress, if not collapse altogether.

With the exception of Italy and China, what country has taken an early proactive stance? None.

Trump fiddles while America burns (with fever)

R230, you talk a lot of shit. where is the proof?

another dumb cunt, just like trump.

Dr. Bruce Aylward, who led the World Health Organization team that visited China, says "mild" cases of Covid-19 aren't all that mild, at least in China:

“Mild” was a positive test, fever, cough — maybe even pneumonia, but not needing oxygen. “Severe” was breathing rate up and oxygen saturation down, so needing oxygen or a ventilator. “Critical” was respiratory failure or multi-organ failure.

Also:

I’ve heard it said that “the mortality rate is not so bad because there are actually way more mild cases.” Sorry — the same number of people that were dying, still die. The real case fatality rate is probably what it is outside Hubei Province, somewhere between 1 and 2 percent.

I’m really getting tired of this comparison of Coronavirus deaths with flu deaths. It’s a stupid comparison, because the Corona virus is brand new. The problem is that it is predicted to infect most of the population and kill hundreds of thousands or even millions of Americans this year! It’s incredibly short sighted to think that the number of Coronavirus deaths, [italic] today, [/italic] has anything to do with the seriousness of the virus.

It reminds me of the people who thought that Trump was great because the stock market was up; whereas, it was clear to many of us that he didn’t have what it takes to handle a crisis, and that day would come. Well, here it is, just as we knew it would be.

Please, everyone, calm down.

We don't need a DataLounge style prison riot, complete with caftans ripping, feathers flying, and pearl strands and earrings ripped from your body.

This cunt should die...

Father, sister of coronavirus patient violate self-quarantine to attend school event

The father and sister of a 20-year-old woman presumed to be the first person in Missouri to have the coronavirus disregarded a quarantine and went to a school function, according to reports.

The St. Louis County woman returned from Italy on March 2, arriving in Chicago and then taking an Amtrak train to St. Louis two days later after staying with a friend, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

The woman, who had been studying abroad, called local health authorities when she started to feel ill, then stayed at home and did not have any contact with anyone before being instructed to be tested at a hospital, the news outlet reported.

Dr. Randall Williams, head of the state Department of Health and Senior Services, said he received a phone call about the positive test result at 1 p.m. Saturday, KMOV reported.

The woman’s family was notified about the diagnosis and told to quarantine between 6 and 6:30 p.m., when a father-daughter dance was scheduled to begin at the Ritz-Carlton in Clayton, according to the station.

The event involved the Villa Duchesne and Oak Hill School, independent Catholic schools in Frontenac.

246 trumps response has been just fine. He banned China travel in the beginning before a lot of other countries did. What the fuck do you expect him to do? He responded much quicker to this than Obama did with Ebola.

There are also many many many more unreported cases of the flu every year for hose that don’t get tested. And guess what - most people don’t get tested from the flu.

I’m beginning to not be as concerned. I think a lot of this is being super hyped by the media at this point - it’s like they want all this chaos and are feeding it. They want hysteria and chaos. I stocked up, but that was more because I was nervous others would panic buy.

I think everyone here will be stuck with a ton of canned goods - hope you got stuff you at least enjoy eating!

These people that violate the quarantine should be held accountable if anyone gets sick or dies because of contact with them.

The diamond princess had 696 cases and there are 7 death so far. 444 active cases, with 32 in serious/critical condition.

I think that’s the only population where every infection was probably identified, and the fatality rate is already over 1%. The passengers are going to skew pretty old, but weren't the majority of those infected crew? I would think that cruise lines would try to screen for any obvious, significant pre-existing condition in crew because providing treatment while at sea could be problematic. Does anyone know it they do? Or what the crew/passenger breakdown was amount the infected?

Stupid cunt going on Cruise...

Keep off cruises amid coronavirus outbreak, State Department says

The State Department on Sunday warned Americans to stay off cruises amid the coronavirus outbreak — after hundreds of Americans were sickened on at least two recent cruises last month.

“U.S. citizens, particularly travelers with underlying health conditions, should not travel by cruise ship,” the State Department said in a statement. “CDC notes that older adults and travelers with underlying health issues should avoid situations that put them at increased risk for more severe disease.”

There’s an increased risk of catching the potentially deadly disease on a cruise ship, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

To curb the spread of Covid-19, many countries have denied entry to ships and prevented passengers from disembarking. In some cases, passengers were allowed to get off ships, but were placed under strict quarantine procedures.

The US government last month evacuated about 300 passengers from a quarantined Diamond Princess cruise in Japan, but the State Department said that “repatriation flights should not be relied upon as an option for US citizens under the potential risk of quarantine by local authorities.”

Passengers on another coronavirus-hit Princess Cruises ship that was stuck off California’s northern coast for over a week finally docked in Oakland on Sunday. At least 21 sick passengers will be hospitalized there.

Monsieur Pierre, who are you to call a 62 year old person old ?

Coronavirus in NY: Head of Port Authority Rick Cotton has coronavirus

Even at 1% the death rate is still 10x what it is for seasonal flu.

R256 You are a Trump sycophant and a crazy person.

R256, how many Ebola cases did we have in the US under President Obama?

Do I have enough toilet paper!?

Trump also disbanded the CDC’’s pandemic response team, before This all started. So they’re starting from scratch.

Sorry, R260! Age brings wisdom. You must be very wise!

R256 is like a witless 1950s hausfrau making the bed, while nuclear bombs explode outside the window.

R266 - I'm fine. Just not overreacting like this thread. Other sites aren't as dire and crazy as DL. One must remember that DL is not the real world.

R266, that’s a scene in the movie, “The Day After” from 1983.

Hitting the gays where they live: Madonna has cancelled shows in Paris on Tuesday and Wednesday due to restrictions imposed over the coronavirus outbreak, the promoter Live Nation has told Reuters.

It looks like Coachella will be cancelled this year. I'm wonder how Aaron Schock will handle the news?

⏳ CORONA TIME 12:00 NOON EST

🌎 GLOBAL:

CASES: 111,750

DEATHS: 3889

CRITICAL: 5979

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 566

DEATHS: 22

CRITICAL: 8

WaPo: Trump shakes hands with supporters in Orlando, flouting health experts’ advice.

How come on the status for the United States that "critical" always stays at 8?

[quote]Other sites aren't as dire and crazy as DL. One must remember that DL is not the real world.

You are hopeless.

R272 yes, yes... it’s happening !!!!

Wash your hands, avoid crowds and unnecessary contact with other people, buy only what you need and share what you have with others.

Bit of Medieval (?) plague trivia:

At one point cats were suspected of being agents of the devil, and villagers would chase them out of town or even throw them on bonfires.

Then HAHA, the [italic]BLACK DEATH [/italic]came along and the families that had kept their cats did better, because of course cats keep out rats.

So then cats became all popular again, and the general public did an about-face, and tried to get all palsy-walsy with them.

But they never forgot....

Is Twitter down for anyone else? Did something Extra-extra terrible happen?

Working fine for moi!

R278, it briefly had some kind of glitch, yes.

r276 what if you have coronavirus?

I woke up today with a sinus issue

I can’t pay my property tax until next week. Fuck it! I’m not going to work today.

Woke up to a report of a case in Florida panhandle.

There's a storm comin'! His storm!

A busy 3 hours updating figures. Overall, cases jumped from 111,362 to 113,579. Deaths from 3892 to 3995. Italy had the biggest single country hike from 7375 to 9172. California updated 565 to 607. That's 3 hours. In a couple of weeks we'll probably amass these numbers in a hour. Did I read the numbers should keep rising until about mid-May? A rough two months ahead of us...

The Episcopal priest in DC was showing symptoms, and went ahead to give communion anyway.

I guess he's trying to get his flock to Jesus a little earlier?

r287 he must have a bunch of geezers lined up to pass their estates onto The Lord.

I have just applied to take part in a vaccine trial for coronavirus, something needs to be done to stop this disease. The £3500 will also come in handy.

The Moron-in-Chief has been pictured shaking hands with Doug Collins AFTER the CPAC meeting.

Yep. We can only hope.

I'm tired of hearing that the flu kills more people. In most cases it can be avoided by getting the shot unlike Coronavirus.

Daily Mail- scary shit. Didn't post the link because the photos are disturbing

Italy's death toll leaps by 97 in one day to 463 as alarming photos emerge of patients hooked up to life support machines inside quarantine-zone hospital while medics in hazmat suits battle to save them

33m ago 19:22 - Guardian. Cases are also starting to take off in Spain

Sam Jones The Madrid regional government has ordered the closure of all schools and universities for a fortnight in an attempt to halt the spread of the coronavirus.

Spain’s total confirmed cases as of 6pm CET is 1,204; 577 of which are in Madrid. The country’s death toll at 28 people – 13 of them in the Madrid region.

When it comes to critical thinking skills, we still have a majority lagging, some barely past the Stone age. We must avoid them in these trying times, uh, not possible you say? True. Just a reminder they're out there. Avoid crowds. No airlines, cruises, church gatherings, Trump rallies, sports events, Costcos full of hoarders, Coachella, 4th of July celebrations, weddings, school graduations, dances, business meetings, gangbangs, Madonna live shows, county fairs, southern family picnics, crowded hospitals, mass transit, Coney Island, the state of Washington, working in retail, hostels, BnBs. What have I missed?

[quote]What have I missed?

Party invites from the Wrigley Cumdump.

It's in Frisco, Texas (north of Dallas). Just got an email from my kid's school district that a person at an elementary school here tested positive.

R296. Scary. Best of luck to you and your family

ABC Foreign News correspondent James Longman:

I’m in Italy hearing the government may extend quarantine to the whole country.

That’s over 60 million people, one of Europe’s most powerful nations, sealed off. Extraordinary.

"Congressman Gaetz was informed today that he came into contact with a CPAC attendee 11 days ago who tested positive for COVID-19. Under doctor's usual precautionary recommendations, he'll remain self-quarantined until the 14-day period expires this week."

Gaetz was on Air Force One with Trump this afternoon.

1h ago 18:49 - Guardian. Good news. But also demonstrates the power of this virus. Definitely not easy to beat even for younger people.

Lorenzo Tondo Lorenzo Tondo

While coronavirus deaths increase day after day in Italy, good news has emerged from the hospital in Pavia where Mattia, the Italian patient 1, has been treated since 21 February, is breathing autonomously and has been discharged from intensive care.

A medical taskforce worked for weeks, day and night, to keep him alive. The man, 38, was the first Italian patient infected with the virus. To many, his recovery has inspired optimism that the battle against Covid-19 can be won.

Trump possibly infected! Guess we will find out in 14 days. Oh, I hope he spreads it to all his MAGAers!

R299 are you serious?

I just came, hands-free, R299.

No one even had to say Supercharged Cytokine Storm this time.

Considering Trump is shaking hands with everyone to show how fearless he is, it’s only a matter of time. Hopefully the GOP will follow his example and shake hands with everyone they can.

CNN Rep. Doug Collins, the top Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, became the third member of Congress to self-quarantine after coming into contact with an individual who has been diagnosed with the novel coronavirus.

It would be much more helpful to report numbers omitting people who are senior citizens or had pre-existing condition factors.

This isn't the bubonic plague!

Let's hope Gaetz has pre-existing conditions.

About a month ago I had asked my sister, a respiratory therapist who works at two hospitals in CT what she was hearing about this, the answer was that they were more worried about the flu at that point. Today she's getting a mask fitting, eye protection and will be getting the hospitals response protocols.

This feels redundant but hospitals in CT don't want patients coming to the ER. If you think that you're sick then arrangements with your healthcare provider to proceed. Dont just GO anywhere. If you're experiencing acute symptoms of course call 911. But depending on how/what regular EMTs may not be sent to you but rather paramedics.

So far this isnt hitting hospitals (for obvious reasons) but between the number of retirees, and breeders, it feels like a tinderbox ready to kick off.

I flew to Costa Rica from the US yesterday, and the flight was completely full. There was a group of 20-25 kids from Notre Dame going on spring break (on a side note, they were going on and on about how excited they were to golf...kids are weird these days). My hotel is also full. I flew in to have dental work done, at 1/4 of the cost in the US. I could tell that the dental hygienist wasn’t thrilled to have to even be in my proximity. Patient zero here was an American tourist. My partner is supposed to fly down to meet me next week, but I have a feeling that he won’t make it. It seems to be hitting the fan quickly.

[quote] R298: [Italy] one of Europe’s most powerful nations...

Well, hey, now, let’s not get carried away, here.

Given all of the evil shit that Trump has gotten away with in his life, he probobaly feels like he is an Egyptian Pharoah protected by the gods. ALL of them eventually met their fate one way or another

Trump is POZ?

Reason number 1 for avoiding public transport

That Vietnamese girl went to Paris n Milan fashion week, now test positive and she took a plane with others and now 10 people on that plane is positive as well!

This virus is definitely worse than the flu!!!!

Premier Giuseppe Conti is talking right now: he's closing all the country.

Why the fuck are people still going to churches??? Didn't they read about clusters in other countries from going to houses of worship??

They are so fucking stupid and selfish, is this how they love thy neighbor???

Trump is scared

Pres Trump told aides he’s afraid journalists will try to purposefully contract coronavirus to give it to him on Air Force One and has asked the Secret Service to bar anyone who has a cough from the White House grounds, per Vanity Fair.

[quote][R299] are you serious?

Yes:

r289 Good Luck!I hope you help save humanity!!!!!

ALL of Italy on lockdown

8m ago 20:44 - Guardian

All of Italy on lockdown – prime minister All of Italy will be placed under the lockdown conditions thus far imposed upon the so-called “red zone” in the north of the country, the Italian prime minister Giuseppe Conte has said.

The restrictions will include banning all public gatherings and preventing all movement other than for work and emergencies. According to the Reuters news agency, he has said the decision was necessary to protect Italy’s most vulnerable citizens and that the right course of action now is for people to stay at home.

Those people on vacation in Italy are surely having a good time - no lines anywhere! Of course, nothing will be open, but no lines!

He should take temp of all visitors but you can be asymptomatic and pass it to others

Trump is fat, he probably has heart disease, diabetes at the very least, if he gets it, he will die.

Will they still allow flights within Italy? How about international flights in and out?

Holy fucking shit! A whole country on lockdown. Was this ever done before (in recent history)? This will hit Italy's economy and tourist industry HARD for the next couple of years probably.

Why so many cases in China and Italy? What do the two nations/peoples have in common aside from pasta? 🤔

Maybe they'll use it as a pretext to kick out all the "refugees"?

Don't forget, China took drastic measures to make sure people adhere to quarantine and lockdowns.

USA won't be able to, there are already many cases of people attending big gatherings even when they are supposed to be home. They need to make them pay and set an example.

I thought Italians are supposed to be very healthy with all the olive oil and shit they eat?? They should have great immune systems!

They must be dirty cunts who don't clean their houses nor wash their hands.

[quote]California updated 565 to 607

R286, California is at 117 cases. Where are you getting your data?

No Italy skews older...that's the issue they have an aging population. Also, Pierre, Italy has the 3rd or 4th largest economy in Europe depending on growth rates.

What if Joe Guidice gets it?!

R325, Italy depends heavily on tourism, so the virus was probably brought there by multiple carriers. China, of course, has bat-eaters. Iran has very close ties to China, so that’s probably its link.

R329 The numbers referenced are from John Hopkins CSSE

[quote]When it comes to critical thinking skills, we still have a majority lagging, some barely past the Stone age.

Bingo.

R333 / R286, the Johns Hopkins / Arcgis dashboard is reporting 607 total cases in the US at 2:56pm PDT. The link you posted went to Datalounge. I don't see a way of isolating a particular state on the JH dashboard, but clicking on the individual circles, I counted around 120 in California, which is the same as the 1point3acres data tool I posted at R329.

Here’s a CoronaCounter if you missed it when previously posted.

My decision to stockpile extra espresso pods was a sound one.

Reading the news, I tend to think at this point (I am not a scientist) that while I wouldn't abandon efforts at containment, I think that ship has sailed.

A large percentage of the population is going to get this virus. As we've seen, the vast majority will be fine in a 1-2 week period, but they need to start "upgrading" our medical infrastructure. Cancel elective surgeries, put out solid information on what to do if infected, etc.

The head of the CDC should make a speech to his employees saying that they are going to start using the WHO test until their test is ready, and make it widely available. Then note that he’ll probably be fired by the administration for that, but he’ll continue to come to work, continue in his current position, and continue to be their boss, he just won’t be paid for it. People simply need to start ignoring Trump entirely, including his direct reports.

So maybe this is obvious, but just an FYI that I didn't really consider ...

I'm a smoker (I know, I know), but as a smoker, I sometimes just have a cough. It usually isn't bad, but it happens. If you start coughing in public you are going to get the look of death. I have a work trip tomorrow and haven't had a cigarette in the past 48 hours just for this reason. I do not want to be on a plane and have a coughing fit.

Might be a good time/excuse to quit y'all. I'm seriously considering it.

Quit, R340 . I quit smoking when I had bronchitis, with plans to resume when my bronchitis cleared up. I ended up quitting for a year. Marijuana smoking was a gateway back to tobacco and I relapsed for a year, with a vengeance. Then, I quit again and it stuck. I must admit, I did take a puff of a someone else's cigarette at a party, but that didn't lead to anything full-blown.

R339 I just read a post on Twitter about why Trump didn't use WHO testing kits. It said they are being made by a company owned by a business associate of Trump. If this is true, then testing was delayed until he negotiated a kickback for the business deal. Sounds about right...

All Aboard the Princess Cruise- Destination: Hell

77-year old Margaret Bartlett explains

[quote] People fighting over ‘rotten’ food on coronavirus-stricken Grand Princess cruise: passenger

[quote] An elderly British woman on board the coronavirus-stricken cruise ship off the California coast groused over the conditions on board, where “stir-crazy” passengers fight over “rotten” food, according to a new report.

[quote] Margaret Bartlett, 77 — one of 140 Brits aboard the vessel where 21 people have tested positive for the infection — told the BBC that she’s been confined to her cabin, which has no balcony.

[quote] “The food is rotten and terrible and we have to fight for it,” Bartlett told the network. “It is not good enough.”

[quote] “We are going stir crazy stuck in the cabin,” she added. “It is a bit depressing when we saw land and it was sunny and we couldn’t get out.

Quitting smoking and getting a duel engineering bachelor's degree are two of the hardest things I’ve ever accomplished, that I am most proud of.

Oh dear, Pierre.

Did anyone explain to Margaret that her sacrifice helps keep Trump’s numbers down and improves his ratings? Jeese, some people are so selfish.

Once again, Europeans are being taken down by their staunch collective refusal to bathe regularly.

Of course, R345, it’s an engineering degree, not an English degree!

(I see the grammar error, but not a spelling error. Is that to which you refer?)

Trump, Mitch McConnell, Sanders and Biden are all old enough to die from this virus and since Matt Gates was exposed, I am hoping he dies from it, even though he is young.. Will anyone in our government die from it? Who?

Trump, Mitch McConnell, Sanders and Biden are all old enough to die from this virus and since Matt Gates was exposed, I am hoping he dies from it, even though he is young.. Will anyone in our government die from it? Who?

R350, I think Trump has a deal with Satan, so not him, unfortunately. Biden and Sanders will croak if they don’t stop handshaking with random people, and stop right now. Maybe McConnell. Nancy for sure. She’s too thin already. Schumer, too. Ruth Bader Ginsburg. maybe Clarence Thomas. Stephan Breyer is 81, so him, too.

Damn, this is getting scary.

How do you think people in Italy or other lock-down sites are getting groceries? Not everyone stocked up. Even if the go to the store, there’s no guarantee that the store will be open.

[bold]Re all our fearless leaders pressing the flesh everywhere they go.[/bold]

Do we know why some high-profile persons do not seem to worry about being in public - for example, the President, Congressional leaders, the British Royal Family. Are the rumors of an immunoglobin injection - consisting of antibodies harvested from recovered COVID-19 patients - that provides them with protection true? Supposedly, it's very expensive, rare and acts like a vaccine.

I did read that China was actively harvesting plasma with antibodies, maybe for a vaccine, but maybe...

Because there has to be some explanation for Trump's lack of fear. He's a germaphobe.

R328) Italians are the most fastidious housekeepers I have ever known. Not a doc but like others I am guessing the spread of the virus is due to their habits of kissing in greeting, etc.

Bernie's heart won't survive it; Trump's in shit shape and stressed-- god if it takes him out, that would be one of the most spectacular events of my life.

R353, he's trying not to show fear and tip off his base that this is something to worry about. The injections/vaccines take a very long time to develop safely. When they rush vaccines, people die. I doubt they would risk the lives of heads of state.

R18) The dramatic increase in deaths in Italy today is uber-horrifying as well. 😪

[quote]Might be a good time/excuse to quit y'all. I'm seriously considering it.

What a great opportunity to quit, R340. Come here and cunt about if you have to while you're going through withdrawals.

Huawei 5G cell service R325.

[quote]How do you think people in Italy or other lock-down sites are getting groceries? Not everyone stocked up. Even if the go to the store, there’s no guarantee that the store will be open.

I have colleagues in China.

I have a colleague in Wuhan, which is under martial law. She hasn't been outside of her apartment in six weeks. The only people allowed outside are approved by the government to work in food distribution. I read somewhere online that the government has repurposed city busses for this.

[quote]I have a colleague in Wuhan, which is under martial law.

We call it Marshall Law around these parts.

r356 - This is not a vaccine, it's an injection of someone else's antibodies. Think of it like a blood transfusion. My understanding is that it protects you from the virus for a time, but you need booster shots because your own antibodies still don't recognize the virus.

It is not be a long-term nor scalable solution, but for key individuals it can be done.

Moronavirus: Trump Calls Missing Tests "Beautiful"

BTW, I am not the only person wondering...

[bold]Sarah Kendzior @sarahkendzior Mar 7[/bold]

It's interesting that Trump, a notorious germaphobe in the demographic most likely to be seriously affected by coronavirus, carries on as if he is immune. His extreme narcissism doesn't explain it. He's always been obsessed with his mortality, taking huge measures to protect it.

I've been speculating in my responses to other tweets, if you'd like to take a look there. I don't know anything definite but it's very disconcerting.

From [bold] Talking Points Memo[/bold]

[quote]There have been plenty of reports that President Trump is a bit of germaphobe (who also has a fear of being poisoned).

[quote]But you wouldn’t know it based on his interactions in Florida this morning, as he casually shook hands with supporters in a state that’s seen at least two deaths at the hands of the coronavirus.

[quote]Trump himself has attempted to minimize the severity of the outbreak, even as two of his top Republicans in Congress announced they would self-quarantine after word got out that they shook hands with someone at the Conservative Political Action Conference who later tested positive for the virus. Perhaps Trump’s handshakes in Florida were part of an effort to build up that minimizing narrative.

[quote] Disruption to daily life may be severe.

Dr. Messonnier, Feb 25

A reminder that the people who we’re stocking-up on supplies were just doing what the experts were implying, or saying explicitly, in the case of stocking up on prescriptions.

I think those politicians are still shaking hands to reduce panic in the general public. For Trump, it’s to keep his ratings up, and he probably thinks he’s immune.

Marie, R364, I know someone who used to buy Howard Stern‘s meals when getting take-out. Howard also had a fear of poison or someone spitting on his food, so he’d never buy it himself, and my friend was never to say the food was for him.

It's dual, not duel Pierre.

There are a couple of people on this thread who really need to take a break. Phone a friend. Stop ramping themselves and others up. They know who they are because they're getting cranky just reading this.

⏳ CORONA TIME 8:45 PM EST

🌎 GLOBAL:

CASES: 114,299

DEATHS: 4,025

CRITICAL: 6,088

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES :

CASES: 624

DEATHS: 26

CRITICAL: 8

There are a couple people on this thread who are not mentioned in the will, for reasons which are well known to them.

Canada has first death from covid 19 today. BC I believe.

[quote]I thought Italians are supposed to be very healthy with all the olive oil and shit they eat?? They should have great immune systems!

The average age of death in Italy from the virus is 81 years old.

85% of those who have died had other health complications like diabetes.

Why has Italy been hit so hard?

Italy is a top tourist country for China.

Northern Italy does a lot of business with China especially, in the fashion sector so there is a lot of travel between the two countries.

When greeting one another Italians lean in and kiss each other on both cheeks. This is done between even casual friends.

The Italian life-style is very social.

Italy is the most densely populated country in Europe.

Demographically Italy has the oldest aged population outside of Japan

I don't really understand this a zombie apocalypse mentality of almost everyone is thinking that this is some combination of Ebola and bubonic plague?

This is like that movie where bats start a plague that turns the world into vampires!

r364 The rich and powerful have access to treatments we don't have, he will be fine if he gets it. They are probably giving him IgG or plasma from the recovered containing the antibodies to this. The rest of us are on our own.

Isn't the mortality rate for elderly / people with pre-existing conditions 25%?

One in four people will die from it. That's Contagion-level deadly.

The overall rate may be 3-4%, among everyone, but no one has antibodies to this, it has a longer incubation time than the flu (during which you are contagious) and lasts longer on surfaces than the flu.

It's definitely concerning.

I hope China's economy is severely damaged from this, because they gave it to the rest of the world.

^ and I mean one in four will die from it - of the elderly and/or those with pre-existing conditions (elderly pretty much assumes they have some issue).

R373 I don't think that the water TP hoarders are doing it for prepping but for profit. Or someone has a reasonable idea of how to make sure they have a few weeks worth of unperishables. Then there are those who think this is all hype, and that's the demographic the first example is looking to take advantage of.

my mother is 74 and in the earliest stages of COPD. Her pulmonologist said her lungs "looked great" with very little change in the past two years. She's very active, volunteers on a couple of planning committees requiring ehr to go to meetings and lectures, and she goes to church two or three times a month. Now she won't even go to a movie. Sh stocked up, likes to cook, and she is "self-quarantined" at home emering for one meeting in the past two months and one church visit. She said they're asking people over 60 to curtail everything. She warned me if I got sick she won't be able to come and help me.

I would fit right in wouldn’t I R358?

R379 She sounds more prepared for this than 99% of Americans. Hope she lives somewhere not especially affected by this. And she's right. You're a grown-ass adult. Take care of yourself! lol

R364, Trump has said he is a germaphobe, in part to deflect the Russian hooker/pee tape allegations. It's entirely possible that this, like the claim that he is a "billionaire," is an exaggeration or untruth.

I might add that if you are a rapist, as Trump is, fear of germs may not be your first concern.

He wanted the hookers to pee on the bed because Obama slept on it. What does that have to do with him being an alleged germ freak? I’m sure he didn’t sleep on the bed.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

I meant new chief of staff Mark Meadows. Not press secretary.

He probably had aides carry hand sanitizer that he uses after shaking hands but standing too close having them breathe on you isn't good either...

Orange turd should have copied the president of China, everyone stood 6 feet away from him when he visited some area, saw it on TV last month

GO BOOMER.

Seth Meyers:

Markets Plunge as Trump Lies About Coronavirus Response: A Closer Look

I dont think having kinks and being a germaphobe are mutually exclusive. Besides I'm sure he has any woman he's paying to get tested for everything before he pays them to play.

R384, I'm only stating what Trump said. He did not deny the pee allegations -- he only claimed to be a germaphobe, "believe me." We now know that he lies about everything, so he is probably lying about that, too. The fact that his claim has, really, nothing to do with the pee allegations supports the idea that the allegations are true. And, R390, we know from Stormy Daniels that he does not have women tested.

Still waiting for the government to get a real doctor on the case... Do we have real doctors in this country anymore? Like the ones who care more about saving people than sucking up to politicians or getting media attention...

Maybe HUD Secretary, Dr. Ben Carson, can jump in and help!

First three cases in Ohio diagnosed. Cleveland, you in danguh, girl...

I had a flu about 10 days ago, no cough and very mild runny nose with stomach pain and loose stools. I have had very bad chills, which I still have, and still a very low grade fever (it was 101.8 at its highest). I was feeling better, but am under stress and not getting enough sleep and the chills came back badly the last couple days. Are extreme chills a sign of the Corona, or is it my hypochondria acting up?

Are there any statistics on the average age of patients who have died of coronavirus in Italy?

What saved China was they called up the veteran doctors from the SARS 1.0 outbreak and gave them all the support they needed to get the job done. If there's a virus threaten the country, politicians should step aside and call the damn doctors!

The mortality rate is much lower than what the media makes it out to be (meaning more are infected but aren't reported). Most people have mild symptoms inf the have it..

It's a matter of whether it makes it to your lungs and triggers pneumonia or not. Most, this won't happen and it will pass like a more or less normal if prolonged flu. Certain percentage of people, it will get to the lungs, it's more likely the older you are.

I’m looking forward to seeing how The Good Fight depicts this crisis. Because they will. Hell, they did a pee pee tape episode.

Trump may say that he's a germaphobe, but quite frankly, I don't believe it.

R395

Runny nose is rare with it, you had flu.

Germaphobes don't eat fast food. Ever.

[quote]I’m looking forward to seeing how The Good Fight depicts this crisis.

I was thinking the same thing watching "The Good Doctor" tonight, though of course that probably won't be until the fall.

What we do know :

Trump is an idiot.

Trump is a delusional liar.

Trump really got FAT.

R396,

[quote]The health ministry says the average age of deaths from the coronavirus is 81.4 years.

Karen in my yoga class told me two drops of CBD oil under the tongue will cure anything. Don’t be a Karen.

Joe Biden had a repetitive cough! In a Lawrence O’Donnell interview tonight. My heart just sank.

No man who has sex with bookers and open stars is a germophobe. He's got some psychosomatic shit going on.

^^^hookers and porn stars

"Wheel of Fortune" will begin taping episodes without an audience indefinitely, a source close to the show tells CNN.

"Jeopardy," which like "Wheel of Fortune" is produced by Sony, is considering a similar move, according to multiple reports.

AND: Coachella has been postponed until October.

Alex Trebec should really carefully consider his future. I'm sure his immune system has been severely compromised from cancer treatment, and he really needs to be good to himself, and take some well deserved time off. He's come too far, and we're all rooting for him.

Trump has dementia. He has gone from being your typical very rich arrogant asshole New York sociopath to a man needing a MRI.

r402. That's what I thought, just the flu. The only weird thing is these chills I still have, I am freezing all the time and can't get warm. It's in the 50's where I live and I am cranking a heater to about 80. I am sweating but freezing cold. This is the third week I've had these chills, it's unusual.

Hahahaha. Mark Meadows, incoming chief of staff, is now "self-quarantining" because he was exposed to the coronavirus.

Which is funny considering part of the reason Trump replaced Mulvaney is because he blamed him for some of the coronavirus press.

R413 was posted by either Joe Biden or Bernie.

Or ...... Hillary Clinton.

I'm so happy it's spreading fast outside of China? Is there a chance it will kill >50% of the population in the Middle East?

R414, stop rimming.

Clean your house, all your surfaces, faucet, keyboards, phones, remote controls with bleach esp the bathroom.

Yes the elderly are dying but you have people in their 30s in hospital, that 32 yr old medical worker from new Jersey said it's a serious illness and it came on really quick, gets worse every day.

That Uber driver is only 33 and he's in hospital. This is worse than the flu

⏳ CORONA TIME 11:30 PM EST

🌎 GLOBAL :

CASES: 114,422

DEATHS: 4,027

CRITICAL: 5,771

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES :

CASES: 708

DEATHS: 27

CRITICAL: 8

Apparently the streets of Italy are deserted. Rome, Venice, Milan- everywhere is like ghost towns. The government has locked down the entire country and is enforcing it with cops and the military.

I found plenty of toilet paper and hand sanitizer at the Piggly-Wiggly, but they were out of BONIVA!

Corona is a non-discriminatory killer.

It doesn't give a damn about your age, sex, race, nationality, religion, or sexual preference.

r423, it seems to effect the older and already sickened the most

I’m not defending Rump but he did say he liked McDonalds but they are so ‘clean’.

I’m a hypochondriac too and I worry. I don’t get good chills but I feel hot I don’t feel a fever even though I shouldn’t touch my face. I have loose stools and fart quite a bit ( this has been going on for awhile so I thought it was something else). What does having a clean house have to do with this virus? I’m the worlds worst house cleaner.

What happens if our country goes on complete lockdown like Italy ? Will they let you go to work ? My job employs over 1000 people and I’m behind at it is so I have to go.. will bill Collecters still want their money or will they turn off my utilities?

I’m 62 and anything but healthy.

On npr they were saying people were getting advice to drink bleach as a remedy RE: 19 and had a doc saying don’t do that!

The White House Press Cunt can't even be honest about something that is transparently due to coronavirus:

---

First lady Melania Trump has cancelled a California fundraiser she was to hold next week, the White House confirmed.

White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham said in a text message that the first lady would not be holding a previously scheduled March 18 fundraiser in Beverly Hills. She said the decision was due to a “scheduling conflict.”

The move comes amid mounting concerns about the coronavirus. Los Angeles County, where the event was to be held, has declared a state of emergency over the outbreak.

We'll see if this one gets cancelled, too:

Melania Trump is also slated to hold a March 25 event at the president’s Mar-a-Lago resort.

Wild in the streets and Logan’s Run are too sci-fi movies that were about killing off old people.

Love in the time of Cholera was a big flop and very forgettable. Also if this gets worse we will not see any love.

Updates from Italy:

While many of Beijing’s white-collar workers returned to work as new infections subsided in China, some 16 million people under a widespread lockdown in northern Italy struggled to navigate the new rules of their mass isolation.

Inmates at more than two dozen Italian prisons rioted against restrictions on family visits and other containment measures, and six died after they broke into the infirmary and overdosed on anti-psychotic medicine.

Travelers at Milan’s main train station had to sign police forms self-certifying that they are traveling for “proven work needs,” situations of necessity, health reasons or to return home. They also needed to provide identity documents, contact numbers and an exact reason for travel.

Italy’s financial hub, Milan, and the popular tourist city of Venice were among the places under the quarantine lockdown. Across Italy, museums and archaeological sites were closed, weddings were canceled and restaurants were told to keep patrons a meter (more than 3 feet) apart. The country has counted 7,375 cases of COVID-19 virus and 366 deaths, more than any other country outside of Asia.

Pope Francis celebrated Mass by himself Monday at the Vatican hotel where he lives, live-streaming the event, but he did resume some meetings.

Some hippie girl I knew in college was rambling on Facebook about using natural cures (she's an anti-vaxxer loon) -- do I scream KILLER CUNT at her or what? I'm tempted.

Yeah, people are panicking, but in the end, the death rate will probably be much, much lower than it is right now.

"“It’s good to remember that when H1N1 influenza came out in 2009, estimates of case fatality were 10 percent,” David Fisman, an epidemiologist at the University of Toronto, told Reuters last month. The actual mortality rate turned out to be well under 1 percent."

Now THIS:

Ireland cancels all St. Patrick's Day parades due to coronavirus.

!!

R432

Considering the speed of transmission and rapid onset of symptoms in older patients, unless drastic social distancing measures are connected the hospitals will be overwhelmed in just a few weeks.

I hate it when Siri “autocorrects” your sentence and fucks it up.

Unless social distancing measures are in acted...

That’s wrong too.

ENACTED!

Seriously, unless we shut down all nonessential travel inside the United States, and stop all international travel, this disease is going to get out of control.

R433 Obviously, the luck of the Irish won't save you from the coronavirus.

R436 Who do you think created it?

My company has (finally) moved almost everyone to remote work. It’s a kludge, and has problems, but the owner FINALLY wised up last week.

Apparently he thinks I actually understand what’s happening. I’m waiting for the raise🤨

I’m just glad the majority will be semi-isolated. Observing their hygiene over the last month made me paranoid.

There are ignorant shit for brains on here spewing bullshit. People are not over reacting, the flaming dumbass who said most people don’t get pneumonia is wrong. In Northern Italy secondary pneumonia presents on almost all patients. The medical community is overwhelmed and distraught by watching people die of respiratory failure. If you have a high probability of death, you won’t be attended to until those more likely to survive are. There aren’t enough respirators or oxygen. Italy has a superior healthcare system and started to prepare early. This is serious.

R439 link?

R439

I think the testimony of multiple doctors working on the front line of the epidemic are what convinced Comte to lock the entire country down.

One doctor infected his entire family.

Anyone over 65 or with pre-existing comorbidities is left to die while they triage younger and healthier patients.

1 million hospital beds and 320 million citizens in the United States means that slowing the propagation of the infection is of paramount importance.

Total county level lock down quarantine is the only viable solution.

R440

Sai leggere l'italiano?

Controlla twitter, fico!

R438,

If you want to impress your boss, explain to him that he needs to invest in bringing back full time custodians that can deep clean the office regularly once you guys go back.

Tell him that the investment will more than pay for itself in reduced absences and higher productivity. A health workforce is a productive workforce.

healthy

My work from home manager who lives in another state still plans to fly to my city for meetings this week. Can't believe my mega global company hasn't banned non-critical travel. He got travel authorized because meetings is with clients...but it's far from critical.

My manager moans about traveling but seems to do it at a drop of a hat. He really is old school, likes the business travel perks and points. I opted out early when I decided getting points from Marriott and eating their free happy hour food just isn't worth the time and toll of travel. He eats that shitty free food and still claims his dinner per diem which is contrary to company rules. Recently when I have to travel, I have been able to book at separate hotels and not have to meet him for the free shitty food dinner. I don't bank the per diem, I use it for a decent meal.

Newsflash for R439:

South Korea has tested more than 140,000 people for the new coronavirus and confirmed more than 6,000 cases. Its fatality rate is around 0.6%.

This suggests that, as many health experts have predicted, the virus' fatality rate seems to decrease as more cases are reported.

That's because more widespread testing leads more mild cases to be included in the count.

Are we call going to be locked down into our homes? What about homeless people? Will they be locked in shelters? I’d be looking for a good spot in the woods right now if I was homeless.

People can’t stand to be around their families for weeks with a break.

People should be allowed to go to outdoor spaces at least and move about on foot/ bikes and personal cars.

Locking people down in their homes is too extreme, not to mention unconstitutional.

*without

R447

No one who believes that Bernie Sanders is a credible candidate for president can bitch about anything being unconstitutional.

Sanders uses the constitution to wipe his ass.

The Ohio State University has preemptively shut down all face-to-face classes for the rest of the month. That's a pretty big move.

La povera Italia. Italians are warm people. They will physically touch strangers when giving directions to a location. They laugh readily. They are highly sociable. It’s their culture. (Yeah, yeah, generalize much ... but tell me how I’m wrong).

And Italy is a top tourist destination, not just for Chinese tourists, but for anyone new to foreign travel. Still, it’s surprising they’re taking such a huge hit.

Possibly, their numbers seem high because they have been testing ... ?

A New Jersey medical worker who was the Garden State’s first coronavirus patient says every day his health is “getting worse” — and warned others to take the bug more seriously, especially since he has none of the underlying conditions that officials have warned about.

James Cai, a 32-year-old physician’s assistant, said he thinks he caught the bug while attending a medical conference last weekend at a Times Square hotel, news station WCBS reported.

“It happened so quick,” Cai told the outlet. “The virus is everything. Diarrhea, watery eyes, shortness of breath, chest pain, you name it. High fever. … Every day is getting worse.”

Cai said he first visited an urgent-care clinic, then went to the emergency room at Hackensack University Medical Center, where he’s remained since Tuesday, according to the outlet.

“People have to take the coronavirus seriously. It’s very serious,” Cai told CBS.

Mayor Bill de Blasio said Sunday that a New Jersey health care provider with Covid-19, matching Cai’s description, had visited a Westin hotel in Midtown and the King David Center nursing and rehab facility in Gravesend, Brooklyn, where the worker saw 11 patients. The worker was wearing a mask at the time, the mayor said.

King David confirmed to The Post on Monday that Cai was the worker.

Cai told WCBS he doesn’t agree with some health officials’ advice that face masks are unnecessary.

“A lot of people say, ‘It’s OK, don’t wear masks.’ I don’t believe that,” Cai said.

New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy announced Cai’s case Wednesday, saying, “We take this situation very seriously and have been preparing for this for weeks.”

There have since been five other cases reported in the Garden State as more than 550 people have become infected across the county, CNN reported.

[quote]Possibly, their numbers seem high because they have been testing ... ?

R451, South Korea has performed a lot more testing than Italy. More testing = lower CFR.

[bold]South Korea[/bold]

Population — 51,269,185

Tests performed — 109,591

Tests per million people — 2,138

[bold]Italy[/bold]

Population — 60,461,826

Tests performed — 23,345

Tests per million people — 386

R543

Even SK has a CFR over 1%. Ten times influenza mortality.

[quote] R414: The only weird thing is these chills I still have, I am freezing all the time and can't get warm.

Have you tried sleeping with socks and sweatpants on?

South Korea's CFR is 0.7%.

The most recent count is 7,513 cases with 54 deaths.

Yes r453, but is South Korea a top destination for those new to foreign travel, like Italy is ?

And are South Koreans known to be warm friendly people, welcoming to strangers ?

I just knew those Italians would be the death of us all!

The length of illness and potential for rapid decline are still major problems.

Although I’ve prepared for social isolation, it’s more a factor of protecting myself and my family from the first wave of infection. In a few months we should have some effective treatments.

There will be no vaccine. Researchers have been testing various coronavirus vaccines for decades and none of them have worked, and usually proved worse than the disease.

The disruptions to daily life for many people is going to be TOUGH! I think the most dangerous phase will come from claustrophobia induced anomie.

Numerous individuals with impeccable medical credentials have implored people to begin social distancing, practice frequent hand washing, avoid community gatherings, and NEVER touch your face!!!

Total lockdown of infected areas, and strategic lockdown of areas without infections, would stop transmission, at the cost of total breakdown of many things we take for granted.

What happens with Italy will be illuminating.

Suggestion for next title: Coronavirus in Venice or To Rome with Coronavirus

For every single item we know about Corona, there are probably five other things that we don't know. For God's sake, let common sense prevail. Don't assume that because your young and healthy, you're safe.

We're in the midst of a life changing event, and hopefully by this time next year this will be a living nightmare that we survived.

It won't kill you to miss a concert, a parade, or a vacation. But catching Corona just might do you in. What is more important?

Survivors have significant lung damage, and often kidney and liver damage as well.

This is not a drill!

Trump and Pence have both been knowingly exposed to The Corona, yet neither one has been tested? A shining example for our nation's citizens.

I bet Biden and Bernie have both been exposed, and don't even know it yet.

How about Coronavirus Freakout 14: Corona, Corona

No country for old men.

There will be blood (drawn)

I'm still confused about this lockdown situation in Wuhan and Italy. Someone mentioned earlier her/his collegue hasn't left the apartment for 6 weeks now. We're talking about millions of people being locked in their apartments for weeks. Who feeds them? I can maybe survive 2 weeks if I have to stay in my apartment. Do these people on lockdown get weekly food deliveries from the government to their apartment doors? Are they allowed to go outside once a week to buy groceries? How does the government get food and supplies if millions of people are at home and not working? Do all governments have emergency food/supplies stored for millions of citizens? Italy is on lockdown now, which means no trucks picking up milk or other products and delivering them to production facilities. No deliveries from production facilities or other countries to supermarkets. When will they run out of groceries to feed 60 million people?

After reading R467’s post, going to the store as I type.

In Wuhan, for a while they weren’t doing deliveries. There was a horrific video of a woman trying to climb from her lower balcony to a higher balcony to get rice from a neighbor. She fell and was killed.

Later, they were lowering buckets on a rope to haul up food, which was being delivered by some government employee.

Finally, they gave permission for one person per household to go to the store once a week. They were also extremely pro-active, and people were passing through a gauntlet of examinations to go.

1 hr 31 min ago CNN. Keep an eye on India!

India now has more than 50 coronavirus cases From CNN's Swati Gupta in New Delhi

Nine new novel coronavirus cases have been confirmed in southwest India today, health authorities there said, bringing the total number of patients in the country to 56.

Three cases were detected in Karnataka, according to the state’s commissioner of Health and Family Welfare, Pankaj Pandey, while another six were reported in Kerala and are under quarantine.

R453, that info about the number of tests performed in Italy and South Korea is somewhat reassuring. Where are those numbers from? I’d like to see the data from other countries as well.

[quote] I’d like to see the data from other countries as well.

Trust me, you don't want to see the data from the U.S.

The frightening thing about this virus is that huge numbers of people are getting it all at once. Whilst most people only have a minor symptoms because of the huge numbers the number of people contracting the disease at the same time the number who develop serious symptoms overwhelm health services and lots of people who would normally be able to survive with proper medical care won't receive that.

If the fucking disease didn't spread so fast and was staggered over three or four years people would have a chance but not under these circumstances.

Heard today that they think (still to be determined) that people won't be able to be reinfected, which is promising news (but on the other side of that they won't have any idea how long people that have been infected will remain immune from a second helping of the virus. Maybe for life but maybe only for a period of weeks, months or years - only time will tell.) The bracketed bit of this paragraph is me questioning long term immunity because we don't develop that for any other coronavirus' that I am aware of.

R467 I don't think the lockdown in Italy is as extreme as the one in Wuhan and the province of Hubei. People will still be able to leave there houses but only for specific reasons and I think essential services and shopping for food would be included in that.

I won't be as effective but it will slow the virus down.

However, I doubt China has eradicated the virus and once they start trying to get 'back to normal' I suspect it will strike again.

Maybe the best solution is to isolate all people of a certain age (50 to 60 upwards) and those under that age with underlying medical conditions for 2 months say and simply let everyone else catch it. They will almost all have mild cases and that may stop the virus in its tracks because it will run out of hosts. After 2 months it should disappear and the more vulnerable can start venturing out - with great caution of course. Just an idea and probably a silly one that won't work but this has become an impossible situation that the world faces. And health issues and death aside the economic impact is going to be huge and long lasting.

R470 the number of swab carried out in Italy to March 9th is 53826. You can see a detailed table every day after 6 p.m. CET on the corriere.it in italian of course.

Published March 9, 2020

[quote]After surveying of local data from across the country, we can only verify that 4,384 people have been tested for the coronavirus nationwide, as of today at 4 p.m. eastern. These data are as comprehensive a compilation of official statistics as currently possible.

[quote]The lack of testing means that it is almost impossible to know how many Americans are infected with the coronavirus and suffering from COVID-19, the disease it causes. While our analysis has tracked state and local announcements that more than 570 people in 36 states are infected, experts say that number is almost certainly too small to reflect the full extent of the disease’s spread in the U.S. Not enough Americans have been tested for officials to know how many people are ill, they say.

Possible thread title: "The power of Clorox compels you!"

The Italians, the Spaniards, the English will be the death of us all, with their lack of a more draconian measure of containing the virus.

^Ahm, more draconian than putting 60 million people under lockdown? You're kidding, right?

R478 According to some report people are still free to travel within the country given that they fill in a form stating their reasons. This is not like the Wuhan lockdown.

R478 And the airports are not closed either so you can just fly....away.....

R477, it’s already in the U.S, and WE are the ones who are doing nothing.

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The coronavirus outbreak in the U.S. could be as severe as it was in Wuhan, China, Johns Hopkins University’s Dr. Marty Makary told CNBC on Tuesday. “What happened in Wuhan could happen here. Why do we think otherwise?” he said on “Squawk Box.” “The American immune system is not stronger than the Chinese immune system.”

Coronavirus in NYC: 5 new cases in city, bringing total to 25

[quote]And the airports are not closed either so you can just fly....away.....

But not to Austria: Chancellor Sebastian Kurz today announced an entry ban for people entering Austria from Italy by car, train or plane, unless they can provide a doctor’s certificate.

⏳ CORONA TIME 9:00 AM EST

🌐 GLOBAL :

CASES: 116,059

DEATHS: 4,089

CRITICAL: 5,788

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES :

CASES: 729

DEATHS: 27

CRITICAL : 8

Italian doctor at heart of illness shares chilling coronavirus thoughts

Dr. Daniele Macchini, who works at the Humanitas Gavazzeni hospital in the northern city of Bergamo, warned in a lengthy post on Facebook about the dangers of complacency in the relentless war against the insidious virus.

“After much thought about whether and what to write about what is happening to us, I felt that silence was not responsible,” Macchini wrote in his post, as translated by Dr. Silvia Stringhini, an epidemiologist and researcher at the Geneva University’s Institute of Global Health.

“I will therefore try to convey to people far from our reality what we are living in Bergamo in these days of Covid-19 pandemic. I understand the need not to create panic, but when the message of the dangerousness of what is happening does not reach people I shudder,” he said.

“I myself watched with some amazement the reorganization of the entire hospital in the past week, when our current enemy was still in the shadows: the wards slowly ’emptied,’ elective activities were interrupted,” he continued in the chilling post, which was shared more than 29,000 times.

“All this rapid transformation brought an atmosphere of silence and surreal emptiness to the corridors of the hospital that we did not yet understand, waiting for a war that was yet to begin and that many (including me) were not so sure would ever come with such ferocity,” he said.

“I still remember my night call a week ago when I was waiting for the results of a swab. When I think about it, my anxiety over one possible case seems almost ridiculous and unjustified, now that I’ve seen what’s happening. Well, the situation now is dramatic to say the least,” Macchini added.

“The war has literally exploded and battles are uninterrupted day and night. But now that need for beds has arrived in all its drama. One after the other the departments that had been emptied fill up at an impressive pace.

“The boards with the names of the patients, of different colors depending on the operating unit, are now all red and instead of surgery you see the diagnosis, which is always the damned same: bilateral interstitial pneumonia.”

The doctor urged people not to describe COVID-19 as a bad case of the flu.

“Now, explain to me which flu virus causes such a rapid drama. … And while there are still people who boast of not being afraid by ignoring directions, protesting because their normal routine is ‘temporarily’ put in crisis, the epidemiological disaster is taking place,” he said.

“And there are no more surgeons, urologists, orthopedists, we are only doctors who suddenly become part of a single team to face this tsunami that has overwhelmed us.

“Cases are multiplying, we arrive at a rate of 15-20 admissions per day all for the same reason. The results of the swabs now come one after the other: positive, positive, positive. Suddenly the E.R. is collapsing.”

Describing every available ventilator as “gold,” Macchini said the doctors and nurses working at his side are exhausted.

Donald Trump is the King of Complacency.

[italic] Good Luck To You, Sir !

13m ago 12:52 - Guardian

Patrick Wintour Patrick Wintour Iran’s health ministry spokesman today revealed record numbers of deaths and new confirmed cases. There have been 881 new infections in the past 24 hours, with 54 deaths. The number of confirmed cases has reached 8,042 and the total number of deaths 291.

The first few minutes of Dr. Campbell's video today are especially horrifying.

CNN-Harvard asks students not to come back to campus after spring break

Students are asked to not to return to campus after the break in order “to protect the health” of the community.

“To our students, especially those of you graduating this year, I know that this is not how you expected your time at Harvard to end. We are doing this not just to protect you but also to protect other members of or community who may be more vulnerable to this disease than you are,” he added.

CNN-Coronavirus is now in every EU country, as Cyprus detects its first two cases

Every country in the European Union now has cases of coronavirus, with Cyprus having detected two cases as of Tuesday, the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control said.

CNN-Czech Republic becomes latest European country to shut schools

Gatherings of more than 100 people will also be banned, he added.

It follows similar clampdowns in Italy and Spain, forcing parents to rethink their routines and wreaking havoc on daily life.

The "global scale and speed of the current educational disruption is unparalleled," the United Nations warned last week.

[Quote]The coronavirus outbreak in the U.S. could be as severe as it WAS in Wuhan, China,

WAS?!? So, did they stop the outbreak in China already? As the media focuses more and more on Italy and the US, you hardly hear anything about China these days. I heard they closed all field hospitals in China bc there was no more demand. True?

R491 I applaud Harvard for that and I wish that the university where I work would do the same. Too late now though as our Spring Break is already underway. I can't figure out the logistics of what Harvard is doing, though -- if the students only packed for break, what about the dorms full of the rest of their belongings?

What the hell?

Miami Herald: Trump administration orders immigration courts to immediately remove coronavirus posters.

The Executive Office for Immigration Review, which falls under the Department of Justice, told all judges and staff members in an email Monday that all coronavirus posters, which explain in English and Spanish how to prevent catching and spreading the virus, had to be removed immediately.

CNN-Experts says "older adults" are at risk — but what does that mean?

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says "older adults" and people with serious chronic medical conditions "are at higher risk of getting very sick from this illness."

Anyone over 60 and those with underlying health problems should try to avoid places with large crowds — such as movie theaters, busy malls and even religious services, top infectious disease experts say.

"This ought to be top of mind for people over 60, and those with underlying health problems," said Dr. William Schaffner, a Vanderbilt University professor and longtime CDC adviser.

"The single most important thing you can do to avoid the virus is reduce your face to face contact with people."

But why is age 60 often used as a threshold for those who need to be extra cautious?

"We now know more about who is at risk," US Surgeon General Jerome Adams said.

"(The) average age of death for people from coronavirus is 80. Average age of people who need medical attention is age 60."

All schools should shut down forgot the remainder of the year.

If you're watching/ tracking statistics, this is becoming alarming with regard to how fast this is spreading.

If schools are not willing to shut down, at least have the good sense to instruct students returning from studying abroad to go directly home and not return until September.

If " LOVE BOAT" was a popular television series today, I'm guessing it would be quickly pulled from the television lineup.

^^ It's been in syndication since I was a tot.

As testing becomes more available, the number of cases will probably send the CDC into a tailspin.

R496 Trump is still in denial.

R496 Trump is still in denial.

Yes, many universities in NYC area are doing online classes...including NYU

Ve hev no fegits or Korona veerus in my Russia.

[quote]Trump is still in denial.

I think it's more sinister than that -- he doesn't want immigrants to know how to protect themselves against the virus.

This is what Fox News people are seeing and hearing

There aren’t enough respirators, and that’s how they save people with complications. There aren’t enough hospital beds either. If people have stay home and treat themselves, like they did in Wuhan, because there aren’t enough beds, there will be high mortality rates like in Wuhan.

The whole point of quarantining isn’t to stop the virus entirely, it’s to slow it down enough so there’s enough equipment. If there’s too many sick people, it will spread like Wuhan.

It seems Fox's Tucker Carlson went off the GOP reservation last night. Per Brian Stelter:

“People you trust, people you probably voted for, have spent weeks minimizing what is clearly a very serious problem," Carlson said. "‘It’s just partisan politics,’ they say. ‘Calm down. In the end this was just like the flu and people die from that every year. Coronavirus will pass."

"They may not know any better," Carlson said. "Maybe they’re just not paying attention, or maybe they believe they’re serving some higher cause by shading reality. ... And there’s an election coming up. Best not to say anything that might help the other side. We get it. But they’re wrong" Carlson called it a "major event," stressing, "It’s definitely not just the flu.”

What happens when a bunch of the doctors and nurses catch it and either have to quarantined, or die? Who’s taking care of patients then?

My charm will keep it at bay.

Many doctors and nurses have died in China...many medical workers in the US are in self-quarantine.

nyc mayor is telling people to avoid taking the subway if they can, use bike or walk. If you're using rental bikes like citibike, don't forget to wipe the handles with bleach.

Where are all my woke peeps who can recognize the global game as its being played out - the ones who know that anything catastrophic going down in contemporary times doesn't just happen all on its own, out of fucking no where no matter what screwy bull shit excuse is given for it. I know you're out there!

Rejoice! Speak the name! The wholly Holy Potentate of the Universe never abandons its rightful place at the helm of it all yesterday, today, and forever! Amen.

21m ago 14:24 - Guardian

Number of UK cases hits 373 A total of 373 people have tested positive for coronavirus in the UK as of 9am on Tuesday, up by 54 from 319 at the same point on Monday, the Department of Health has said.

I despise Carlson but good for him for saying this.

R445 here, YES! One client is requesting the meeting turn into a virtual one. Someone is talking sense. Unlike my company. My manager is also one of those who thinks this is all overblown.

Hey - my sharona just ate your fuck’n corona. Ok, carry on.

Thank you, R406.

My brother is flying in today, two friends are on a long road trip and will be here Thursday and Friday, a childhood friend is in the area for the cancelled tennis tournament and wants to get together, my spouse's sister will be here in two weeks. I should have told them all not to come. If we survive the next 3 weeks we are going to do social distancing.

R404, the new season of The Good Fight starts airing next month and the season finale also shoots in April so I think we’ll see the coronavirus crisis situation included in the season finale which will air sometime in July.

The U.S. is not prepared for what is coming as COVID-19 spreads rapidly across the country, public health and infectious disease specialist Dr. Michael Osterholm told CNBC on Tuesday.

The virus has surpassed the containment stage, he said, and the U.S. government is not responding appropriately for the magnitude of spread the country will likely see.

“Right now we’re approaching this like it’s the Washington, D.C., blizzard, for a couple days we’re shut down,” said Osterholm, who is director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota. “This is actually a coronavirus winter and we’re in the first week.” —

R517 here and posted too soon....Manager responds saying he still wants to meet since he's flying in anyway and stupid client agrees. Damnit.

You know, I make lists, and while I'm no hoarder but I thought I had sufficient. Then, every damned day I think of 3-4 more things I need to get. Right now I have two 6 packs of toilet paper. I know it won't be enough if I have to quarantine. And I probably don't have enough dishwashing soap. And I read an article about eating right so I want to get some strawberries. I'm tired of feeling scared and anxious.

Pence looks ill in insurance CEOs meeting today.

Trump is a fucking germaphobe in that he would never want to be around anyone who is sick and this virus has him in a meltdown. I do not believe for one minute that he hasn't been tested. I bet he has. In fact he strikes me as the type of asshole who'd insist on everyone he comes in contact with being tested. He would want the WH staff, the Secret Service, his family members and anyone else he sees on the regular to be tested.

His next strategy, BTW, he is going to take credit for every single measure every corporation and business is taking to deal with the virus. He claims he is insisting that insurance carriers waive co pays and costs associated with testing etc. of the virus. Which is BTW a provision of the Affordable Care Act. He had nothing to do with it. So Trump propaganda machine is alive and well, and taking credit for other people's initiatives. He's a piece of shit.

CNN-United Nations closes New York headquarters to the general public

The United Nations has decided to close its New York complex to the general public and temporarily suspend all guided tours beginning at 8 p.m. ET today until further notice in the wake of coronavirus concerns, a spokesperson for the United Nations Secretary General said in a statement.

Trump is NOT a germaphobe. He only said that for attention. Germaphobes never shake hands, touch railings, touch people, let people touch them. He lied like he lies about everything because he doesn't know how to tell the truth. He thinks he sounds more interesting if he makes stuff up instead of telling the boring truth.

He doesn't like shaking hands, he said the Japanese have the right idea, bowing instead of shaking hands. He wrote that in one of his books decades ago. He's probably like a clean freak. Likes everything to be shiny and clean etc.

Chills are usually a sign of fever. Corona symptoms include Fever, chills, dry coughing, tiredness. I've also read that it comes in two stages, with you starting to feel better, but then it comes back. Most doctors are saying drink a lot of fluids, (I drink hot water with lemons to detox, and fresh ginger tea.) and take the kind of meds t hat treat your symptoms as you would with a regular cold or flu. So really, unless it goes into your lungs there's not much you can do even if you have it. IMO you need to move around a bit if you're able. Aerobic exercise. Not necessarily strenuous, but you need to improve your circulation. That may help you get warmer. So walk around the house and do some arm waving for about ten minutes. The other thing you ought to do is turn you heat register down to about 68-69. Then wrap up. Sweater, blankets, etc. Don't let your house get too warm and too dry because it will screw up your sinuses.

Is Coronavirus worse than the Tamiflu?

CNN-Vice President Mike Pence announces no copays for coronavirus coverage with several insurance companies

“I’m pleased to report as you requested, Mr. President, that all the insurance companies here either today or before today have agreed to waive copays on coronavirus testing and extend coverage for coronavirus treatment in all of their benefit plans,” the Vice President announced. Telemedicine would also be covered, and all the CEOs agreed to “no surprise billing,” Pence said.

Medicare and Medicaid, Pence said, already made it clear to their beneficiaries that coronavirus care would be covered.

The NCAA's are in danger of being cancelled or played in empty arenas. The Ivies have cancelled their tournament. Stanford was to have hosted the first round of the women's tourney and will be unable to because of the restrictions in their county. If that goes on, it would have to be done in an empty arena or under 1000 seats. I think we'll know more in a week, but the Stanford message boards, a mix of doctors and fans, are very concerned about this and have been since the beginning.

They should play behind closed doors. LeBron James is a selfish cunt, said he won't play if there are no fans allowed. Fans can still watch from home.

Think that was a knee jerk reaction by James, probably didn't want to come across as anti-fan. I'm sure he now realizes or it's explained to him that this is for overall good of the public, he'll come around.

CNN-Ivy League cancels basketball tournaments ahead of March Madness

The Ivy League women’s and men’s conference tournaments scheduled to start this Saturday in Cambridge, Massachusetts, have been canceled because of the coronavirus pandemic, the league announced.

As a result, the league’s regular-season champions – Princeton’s women’s team (26-1) and Yale’s men’s team (23-7) – are automatic qualifiers to the NCAA tournaments.

The NCAA's March Madness tournament is just a week away.

“We understand and share the disappointment with student-athletes, coaches and fans who will not be able to participate in these tournaments,” Ivy League Executive Director Robin Harris said. “Regrettably, the information and recommendations presented to us from public health authorities and medical professionals have convinced us that this is the most prudent decision.”

The league will implement “highly-restrictive, in-venue spectator limitations for all other upcoming campus athletics events. The League is also canceling all out-of-season practices and competitions,” effective immediately.

Postseason competition for winter sports will continue, the league said.

[quote]It seems Fox's Tucker Carlson went off the GOP reservation last night.

I saw that last night. He did an impressive job. Quite a take down of Trump and co. Worth watching.

Could it be affecting the elderly the most simply because they are not around youngsters enough and therefore haven't been exposed in the past/picked up immunity? Have there been studies of elderly COVID-19 victims and if they have grandkids or are often around children?

CNN-There are more than 170 coronavirus cases across New York

There are 173 confirmed coronavirus cases in New York State, up 31 from yesterday, according to the New York Governor.

This includes an additional 17 cases in New York City, bringing the city’s total to 36.

Westchester County has 108 cases and continues to be the county with the most confirmed cases.

4 min ago - CNN. What a fucking disgrace!

US public health labs have run 4,856 coronavirus tests, CDC says From CNN's Amanda Watts

US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Robert Redfield said 4,856 novel coronavirus tests have been run in public health labs across the United States.

This is not just like the flu for normal people! They are saying for 80% of people will only experience mild symptoms. Look, this guy is only 32 and he's in poor shape! He doesn't have any underlying medical issues.-----

New Jersey patient fighting coronavirus unable to talk from illness

The New Jersey health care worker who was the Garden State’s first coronavirus case says he’s unable to talk because his body is still too exhausted from battling the dangerous bug.

“My lung is still too weak. One talk could take me days to recover,” James Cai, 32, told The Post on Tuesday in a text message.

The Fort Lee physician’s assistant spoke out the day before about how he’s been “getting worse” since he was admitted last week to Hackensack University Medical Center, WCBS reported.

Though he has no underlying health issues, Cai said he’s been struggling to beat the virus, which has come with a number of symptoms.

Cai said that he believes he came down with the bug while attending a medical conference last weekend at the Westin in Times Square.

Dozens of Iranians die from methanol poisoning in attempt to fight coronavirus

At least 44 people have died of methanol poisoning in Iran — mistakenly thinking that downing bootleg booze would ward off COVID-19, according to the state news agency.

Despite alcohol being banned in most of the Islamic republic, it is responsible for hundreds of patients being hospitalized because of fake rumors that it would save drinkers from the virus that has killed 291 and infected more than 8,000 there, the state news agency IRNA reported, according to Agence France-Presse (AFP).

The death toll from alcohol poisoning in the province of Khuzestan reached 36 Tuesday — double those killed from the coronavirus itself in that region, the report says.

Guardian - Uh oh. Cases are exploding in Madrid

13m ago 16:22

Sam Jones Parents in and around Madrid were urgently trying to arrange impromptu childcare on Tuesday following the regional government’s decision to close all schools in the area for a fortnight in an effort to arrest the spread of the coronavirus, reports the Guardian’s Madrid correspondent Sam Jones.

Spain has so far confirmed 1,646 cases of the virus – 782 of them in the Madrid region – and 35 deaths. On Monday evening, the regional government said that all nurseries, schools and universities would closed their doors on Wednesday and remain shut until 23 March.

CDC urges elderly to stock up on food, stay home amid coronavirus fears

The advice is part of new recommendations from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention aimed at the most vulnerable populations and stems partly from a new study of 70,000 Chinese patients with the virus.

“Have enough household items and groceries so that you will be prepared to stay home for a period of time,” Nancy Messonnier, a senior CDC official, said in a conference call Monday.

Messonnier said the findings from the study determined that about 15 to 20 percent of the Chinese patients studied developed serious illness.

Risk of serious illness increased for patients 60 and older and was the highest for people 80 and older.

Existing health conditions, such as diabetes and heart disease, also increase the risk.

R536, as it should be--regular season champions should get the auto bid to the NCAA tournament. What's the point of playing a whole season if the bid goes to the conference mini-tournament winner? The conference tournaments are fun but they'are a cash grab and unfair to the season champions.

21m ago 16:17 - Guardian. Unbelievable. The world should immediately ban all flights to and from the US until we know more about the extent of the situation there

The testing crisis in the United States continues, with the governor of North Carolina warning that his state has only enough supplies left to test 300 more people.

But playing to empty arenas would keep people at home so isn't that the best thing?

there is a study that just came out of china yesterday that focused on the 2 hospitals in wuhan with the most serious cases and they found that the virus was staying in their body for a median of 20 days. on the low end, it was 8 days. via NY1.

I wonder what the affect the virus will have on those voting today.

CNN-The National Guard is deploying to this New York town to contain coronavirus

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo unveiled a plan to deal with the coronavirus outbreak in New Rochelle, including deploying the National Guard to a containment area and setting up a satellite testing facility for the community.

The National Guard will help deliver food to homes and clean public spaces in the containment area, Cuomo said.

New York is also setting up a satellite testing facility, partnering with Northwell Health, in New Rochelle, which is in Westchester County.

New Rochelle is “a particular problem,” Cuomo said, adding that “the numbers have been going up, the numbers continue to go up, the numbers are going up unabated.”

“What we are going to do is focus on an area -- concentric circle -- around the situs of the majority of the cases in New Rochelle," he said.

Cuomo described the cluster of confirmed coronavirus cases in New Rochelle as “probably the largest cluster in the United States,” adding it’s a “significant issue for us.” There are 108 confirmed coronavirus cases in Westchester County.

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo described the “dramatic action,” detailing a two week period where facilities in the New Rochelle containment would be closed.

Governor Andrew Cuomo said starting March 12th facilities within that area, as well as schools within that area would be closed for two weeks. This will go on through March 25th.

“This will be a period of disruption for the community.”

Cuomo described it as a “matter of life and death.”

(ALL FROM THAT WESTCHESTER LAWYER!!!!)

Chinese restaurant chain in California kicking out diners with fever amid coronavirus crisis

A chain of Chinese restaurants in California is so terrified of the novel coronavirus, it is checking customers’ temperatures before letting them inside — kicking out anyone with a fever.

Sichuan Impression uses an infrared thermometer to check for fevers with anyone trying to dine at its three locations in West Los Angeles, Tustin and Alhambra, it revealed on Instagram.

“If any abnormal symptom, such as fever, is identified, we will immediately assist to contact the nearest medical service,” the restaurant said.

“If you refuse to cooperate with the temperature measurement, we have to regretfully deny the service to you for the time being.”

In fact, the restaurants would prefer customers just stayed away.

“We encourage everyone to order ‘to-go’ for the time being, and will offer 5% off discount for the entire order,” the Instagram announcement said, with the Tustin location also offering free local delivery.

Sichuan Impression said the drastic measure was because having “a healthy and safe dinning environment” is its “top priority.”

“We have family in China, so we understand the importance of doing everything we can to protect both our customers and our workers,” co-owner Kelly Xiao told the Orange County Register. “Everybody has a responsibility to do what they can do.”

Some also worried that the testing could be a risk itself. “You are INFECTING every single person that you are touching with this thermometer,” @thereseember replied, calling them “VECTORS of AEROSOLIZED pathogens.”

[quote]Miami Herald: Trump administration orders immigration courts to immediately remove coronavirus posters.

UPDATE: Tuesday morning— just four hours after the Miami Herald published this story—a Department of Justice spokesman contacted the Herald to say that the “the signs shouldn’t have been removed. It’s now being rectified.”

Officials declined to discuss why the email was sent in the first place, and who told the chief immigration judge to issue the directive.

There are steep discounts on broadway right now! lots of good seats available! mar 12 thru mar 29, just 50 bucks!! to kill a mocking bird, west side story, book of mormon, who's afraid of virgina woof. tix go on sale thurs.

go at your own risk!

France had to tell citizens that cocaine won’t cure coronavirus

CNN-New Jersey reports its first coronavirus death

A man in his 60s is the first New Jersey patient to die from coronavirus, the New Jersey's governor's office announce.

New Jersey Lt. Gov. Shelia Oliver also announced today that there are four new presumptive positive cases in the state, brining the total number of cases to 15 statewide.

People in my immediate department seem to finally be coming around. I think they were forced to because a number of speakers either can't (Italy) or won't come to a conference we have scheduled for in weeks. Our university as a whole is still lagging behind other schools (Harvard, Stanford), but doing better than some (Penn State sent a planeload of students to Spain.)

Anyway, I'm relieved because at recent staff meetings I've been feeling more and more like this

Given the recent events in New Rochelle, next thread should either be Quarantine of Solace or Escape from New York.

⏳ CORONA TIME 1:00 PM EST

🌐 GLOBAL :

CASES: 116,964

DEATHS: 4095

CRITICAL: 5,880

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES :

CASES: 754

DEATHS: 27

CRITICAL: 8

The federal government, led by the president, is proclaiming nothing to see here and in the meantime, a town in New York is getting locked down. Hollywood story telling can't keep up with this shit.

[quote]the coronavirus outbreak in New Rochelle

This is all stemming from that one attorney, right? The one who went to the bat mitzvah and whose neighbor later drove him to the hospital?

[quote]This is all stemming from that one attorney, right?

Yes: New Rochelle is home to the midtown Manhattan lawyer who has been linked to dozens of cases across multiple states. He was the second confirmed case in New York and its first instance of community spread.

National Guard troops have been deployed to a Health Department command post and setting up a satellite testing facility and one-mile, two-week containment area in New Rochelle. As of Tuesday, Westchester County has seen 108 confirmed COVID-19 cases; that's 57 percent of all tri-state cases.

[quote](ALL FROM THAT WESTCHESTER LAWYER!!!!)

Typhoid Mary!

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R470 —

South Korea’s data, (includes a link to the original source):

Rocky is wearing gloves at the supermarket checkout! I didn't even know he did his own shopping!

The guy from NJ who died had only been in the hospital since Friday. He traveled regularly between NY and NJ.

CNN-3 coronavirus cases connected to South Florida seaport

At least three coronavirus patients have been linked to Port Everglades, a seaport for cruises and commercial ships. All three of those cases are connected to Metro Cruise Services, according to a statement from Florida's Joint Information Center on COVID-19.

r556, any mention of underlying medical issues? Did he take the path train or drive? RIP.

Sorry. I posted the wrong link at R564. This one goes directly to the number of tests carried out in each country, but be sure to click the links to the source as the numbers are always changing and the aggregator may be behind.

Ruh-roh. A Chinese guy who was hospitalized and released after testing clear died five days after getting out of the hospital. They're not sure if it came back/he was never really clear, or he was reinfected.

Smoking and obesity and the Coronavirus

From a CNN interview with Michael Osterholm, an infectious disease expert

[quote] We know from the Chinese data that being a male, older and having underlying health conditions are risk factors for increased serious illness and deaths.

[quote] For older men in China, smoking is still very common -- 60% of older males smoke. Smoking likely played a big role in the increased risk of this demographic dying from coronavirus. We see the same trend with influenza in our own country. Of note, only a small percentage of older women in China smoke, meaning they were much less at risk for serious disease.

[quote] We're concerned about the occurrence of other risk factors for severe disease as this virus moves out into other parts of the world. For example, one of the risk factors for acute respiratory distress syndrome, or ARDS -- the most severe of the outcomes of COVID-19 infection -- is obesity. In parts of the world, including the US, where obesity is an epidemic problem, its likely we may see a different case fatality rate than we're seeing in China; that is, US fatalities may be less gender-specific and the rate of fatalities could be even higher than it is in China due to higher obesity rates among people 45 years or older.

I wonder if many of these people had advance medical directives which forbid the use of ventilators? so they just die?

If there is a silver lining to the outbreak of coronavirus in the US, maybe it will get people to quit smoking and lose weight.

The man who died in NJ ---He was admitted to Hackensack University Medical Center on March 6. He eventually suffered two cardiac arrests.

He had no travel outside of the United States but had traveled to New York, where there are more than 150 cases. He also had a history of diabetes.

Oh fuck first death in NJ....

Why the fuck hasn’t the St. Patrick’s Day Parade been cancelled yet? Cuomo said earlier that each area has different issues and should calibrate their decisions accordingly. Hasn’t he got the memo that thousands of people descend on the parade from areas that are experiencing higher levels of infection? Like New Rochelle?

I'm not particularly concerned about being seriously ill from the disease myself, but can't say how incredibly depressed I am by the dystopian atmosphere at present.

I blame the media, as well as public officials' need to be seen as "doing something".

it will be cancelled, Chicago already cancelled theirs. NYC mayor is being an asshole and he also said the virus only stayed on surfaces for 2 or 3 min which is totally WRONG. it stays for at least 2 or 3 days...up to 9 days, depending on weather and surface!

this is worse than the flu, don't be fooled.

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Fellow Americans, we are totally fucked! Less than 5000 tests by the CDC as of yesterday per their own admission. Based on the data, it would appear that one of the keys to avoiding deaths is early detection and swift preventative measures. Letting it go unchecked like this in the US is a time bomb waiting to happen. Once people start dying it's too late! Thank you Trump, Pence and the do nothing Repubs in congress. If Obama was President now they would be holding daily press conferences from the Whitehouse lawn

ON THE RUN Chinese coronavirus cops wear RoboCop-style helmets with AI cameras to spot patients

CHINESE policemen have been equipped with RoboCop-style helmets with AI cameras which can detect people who could have the coronavirus.

The artificial intelligence helmets were designed by technology firm Kuang-chi and have been used in several Chinese cities including Shanghai, Chengdu and Shenzhen.

They are fitted with a camera which can scan the body temperatures of anyone within a five-metre (16-foot) radius and alert the person wearing them in real-time to anyone with a fever.

Chengdu official Liu Tao, who uses the helmets in his work as an epidemic prevention and control officer, says a small alarm is triggered when somebody is scanned with a body temperature higher than 37.3 degrees Celsius.

The helmet has a speaker which allows it to ‘speak’, telling passersby: “Maximum body temperature is 36.4 degrees Celsius, please pass.”

CNN-At least 168 coronavirus patients died in Italy in the past day

Deaths in Italy from coronavirus have risen sharply in the past 24 hours, with 168 new deaths reported, Angelo Borrelli, head of Italy's Civil protection Agency said on Tuesday.

On Monday, there was an increase of 97 deaths.

The deaths announced today bring the total number of coronavirus deaths in Italy to 631. There are now 10,149 recorded cases of coronavirus in Italy.

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R576, what is so bad about thousands of dead drunken NYC Irish? It is not ever safe to go near that NYC parade. If you don't get punched, you will be puked on or peed on.

A headline from the Daily Mail. Stay away from the UK too!!! Reported cases there are also way out of line with other European neighbors with similar populations. Ditto for Russia!

How many coronavirus cases are being missed? Suspected patients who contact NHS 111 are not being tested UNLESS they have been abroad - despite the killer infection rapidly spreading between humans in the UK

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