Biden VP Choices to Shake Things Up

I wish he'd pick Kamala. or someone who could be VP until he dies or until the term is up, then that would give them that much more exposure and experience.

MO will NEVER do it. Oprah would take VP before MO.

Oh, hell.Elizabeth Warren and Julian Castro, and Kamala Harris are all good choices. Joe may even want to think outside the world of politics and go for a popular celebrity like Tom Hanks or Dr. Oz. Maybe Dr.Phil. Give America therapist in chief.

R2: I always assume Oprah would say no because of secrets the vetting process would bring out.

Obama seems happy with his Martha's vineyard mansion, Netflix and book deals and probably making a shitload of money with public appearances. Why bother with a corrupt Washington establishment who hated him anyway.

Why isn't Michelle running for office though? She's charismatic and probably even more qualified than Dump after 8 years at the WH.

What makes you think Biden will be picking ANY VP?

Sanders is way ahead of him already. And will do better than Biden on Super Tuesday.

It may not be best for the party, but you need to stick with reality.

He needs someone YOUNG.

Obviously Mayor Pete to balance Joe's old age.

R7 see R8

For Pete to drop out even though he was 3rd place for the most delegates, I have a feeling one of the other candidates promised him a position if he dropped out.

R8, it needs to be a woman.

He needs to lock down “the black vote” with a VP choice that appeals to those voters

R12, does he? It’s not like black folks would vote for Trump. I do like the idea of Kamala as VP.

Pete did great and I think he is a great American. He would be an interesting VP pick if only for the sake of the brief moment he would share the stage with fellow Indianan Mike Pence in a VP debate. Pete vs. Pence in a head to head match up! Pete believes in science and he can quote scripture better than Pence.

There is no way there will be a two-white-men ticket.

No Kamala! SHAKE THINGS UP, not throw water on the fire.

Fuck Kamala. You want to make everyone vote Trump??

Anybody but Amy K. I can't stand Amy's face or voice or shaking or entitlement.

"Duck, R18!!!"

Pete

Tammy Duckworth

Chris Murphy

No Liz, since she went full suckjob on Sanders.

Tammy Duckworth would be an interesting choice.

No,, Kamala. No value in her as a VP Candidate. No on Stacy Abrams. She’s never won anything and she’s not ready. Biden and should be able to win the black vote on his own.

[quote]I have a feeling one of the other candidates promised him a position if he dropped out.

I think it was reverse cowgirl.

I am ok with Michelle.

if he wants to make Trump and the the conservatards go balistic - Bill Clinton or better yet AOC>

Just stop trying to make the "Michele Obama running for office" thing happen.

It ain't happening.

And, if it were to happen, she is sure as hell not playing second fiddle to an idiot like Biden.

I'm sorry, but if he chose AOC, I'd have to vote for Trump.

Stacey Abrams.

His VP will be Amy Klobuchar.

If Duckworth wanted to do it, she'd be an asset, but it looks like she's not interested for now.

Sarah Palin!

R27 if you're not just being ornery, then you're a moron

Would it be Biden Bernie or vice versa?

Would it be Biden Bernie or vice versa?

At what point does a leading candidate usually select a VP and make it public?

"He needs to lock down “the black vote"

He's got it. He needs to lock-down everyone else.

One person that will never get the black vote is Mike Bloomberg. In Selma today some members of the Black congregation stood up and turned their backs on Mike when he spoke at the podium.

JUST IN: Former President Barack Obama tells Joe Biden he won't endorse anybody yet.

Biden needs to get the Obama coalition to the polls in November. That only happens with a progressive POC as VP -- and a female would be ideal.

R39, a progressive? Why? Neither Obama nor Biden were/are progressive. That's not an insult, BTW.

Looking good for Biden. Run the simulation.

my guess it will be a sanders/biden ticket.

Biden is the only one that has a strong AA support in this race, besides Bernie. This way we keep Warren in the Senate. We need the senate too. Bernie can basically name his replacement, Vermont loves that dude. The Obamas will campaign for the Democrats in house and senate races.

I am afraid Biden will do something weird and stupid like picking a moderate Republican. Joe is all about the "I can work across the aisle" bullshit. Hillary made a mistake picking boring Tim Kaine, virtually anyone would have brought more voters along with her than Tim Kaine.

Moderate Republican, good luck finding one.

Biden will pandering to the black vote by picking a black female VP that’s unqualified like Kamala or Stacey Abrams.

Biden and should be able to get the black vote all on his own.

R44 True about Biden and the black vote. However Kamala has never lost an election, Abrams has..In addition ,she has been a Senator just as long as Obama was when he was running for president.

I am thinking that biden will once again be VP, this time for President Bernie Sanders. In all the polls, they beat trump. There is no need to get an inexperience and untested person. Unity Ticket.

All the other senators need to stay in the us senate. we need the US Senate too. Bernie can basically name his replacement in Vermont. Biden is not in office right now, so you lose nothing. Obviously, he isvery well liked as a VP, given the polling about him.

Please please please send this man some money so he can exact his revenge on Trump. Stop pouting and support the only candidate who can beat Trump.

[quote]This way we keep Warren in the Senate. We need the senate too.

Warren would be replaced by a Democrat. Yes, I know Massachusetts has a Republican governor, but the Democratic legislature has already shown that it can bypass that.

I hate to think that people are ruling her out because of this.

[quote]I am afraid Biden will do something weird and stupid

Gaffe-prone Biden? NEVER!

I have lot of affection for Biden now. He's like the put-upon old guy next door who tries to do the right thing.

[quote] Bill Clinton or better yet AOC

It cannot be AOC constitutionally.

Everybody's so worried about the black vote. But blacks only comprise about 10-12% of the U.S. population, according to the Census Bureau. That's actually not that much.

Why do some DL posters keep pushing Kamala Harris? Exactly what would she bring to the ticket? CA is already solid Blue. American Blacks don't see her as one of them but a wannabe. She turns off Mid Western Swing State Moderates. Her personality is abrasive.

Best opportunity for Kamala would be Attorney General where a barracuda would be an advantage. Not VP.

In the spirit of a reality show host getting elected president he should get Alex Trebeck just think of the sympathy vote.

His pick will be black or latino, likely a woman.

I personally would love Kamala but she's from California and that's already going Dem.

Biden/Abrams 2020

He could pick Gretchen "Fix the Damn Roads" Whitmer

It’s going to be Klobuchar. She’s appearing onstage with him at his Dallas, TX rally tonight.

Ok, R58.

No, R58. The black community just came through for Biden in South Carolina.

Now he has to come through for them. And Amy Klobuchar ain't the way to do it.

Stacey won't happen because Biden is so old and she has limited experience

Kamala looks better on paper than she does in person--imploded big time in the primaries and will be a liability

Beto would have been a good choice--he could easily pass for Biden's son, personality wise-- but he has a penis

Ditto Pete who would be great debating Closeted Pence

Amy K could help pull in midwestern Karens.

But so could Gretchen Whitmer (sp?) the governnor of MI and Tammy Duckworth

Oprah herself would be my wild card

I would go for Oprah herself.

Duckworth is midwestern, biracial, and she lost her legs in a war. She's never been a prosecutor, either.

[quote]Amy K could help pull in midwestern Karens. But so could Gretchen Whitmer (sp?) the governnor of MI and Tammy Duckworth. Oprah herself would be my wild card

Gretchen Whitmer and Oprah are not qualified to assume the Presidency on Day One...which is what is required to be 78 year old Joe’s VP.

Amy K is ready and Qualified. Possibly Duckworth.

[quote]Gretchen Whitmer and Oprah are not qualified to assume the Presidency on Day One

Neither was Trump.

[quote]Neither was Trump.

We need to be better than the Republicans.

Tammy Duckworth would create interesting Secret Service logistics.

Any time I see someone floating the idea of Michelle Obama running for office, I know that person is an idiot. She quite emphatically shut that down years ago. The woman is never running.

Oprah is not getting involved in this shitshow, known as American politics.

She's already said, "I know better."

I don't blame her.

I love the idea of Pete, but really - two white men? A two white men ticket? That's going to make us look as out of touch as the Trump team is.

Elizabeth Warren would be the most sensible choice. She would bring in the more progressive voters Joe has a deficit with, and she will bring in some of the Bernie crowd.

No. Warren needs to order up a party keg of Michelob Ultra Light, phone in the announcement to end her campaign and drink until she passes out. Tonight. She's good for Secretary of Something.

I’ve actually become convinced that Pete should be Biden’s VP. I don’t care if it’s two white men. I think they balance each other in fundamental ways - Biden is the experienced statesman, popular with reliable minority voting blocks. Pete is the fresh face outsider political talent of the next generation - the future of the party. He’s sharp and intelligent and from the Midwest - and he could actually garner significant enthusiasm from swing state white voters.

I think they would actually be a formidable ticket.

[quote] I don’t care if it’s two white men. I think they balance each other in fundamental ways

It is time to look beyond white men to balance each other.

I'm fine with whoever makes it more likely that Biden wins against Cheeto.

Not Abrams, although I like her.

I also do not think Kamala has an "abrasive" personality. I think she's terrific. But I also think the Attorney General idea is a good one for her!

[quote] I don’t care if it’s two white men. I think they balance each in fundamental ways.

Only if you are white.

No former prosectors. Invites BLM protests.

*prosecutors

Andrew Gillum nearly won the governor's race in Florida and he is black. And young. He ticks a lot of important boxes. We can't hate him for having a dick.

R45 Kamala can’t perform outside of California. She has no appeal in the other 49 states. And she can’t get the black vote because that’s what drove her out of the race in the first place.

R80, he has the taint or the FBI investigation of his City Hall.

Andrew Gillum, almost forgot about him! He would be good. But I really want it to be a woman.

Pete would negate the advantage Biden has with blacks. They won't vote for a man who sucks dicks.

R84, how did Cory Booker win his seat then?

I do, too, R83.

But which one?

R84, Pete doesn't "suck dicks." He has only sucked one dick in his lifetime, and it belonged to his husband Chasten.

Biden should choose a Latino VP. Latino votes have [italic]actually[/italic] helped turn states blue out here in the west -- Colorado, Nevada, California, and possibly Arizona and Texas next.

But that doesn't get recognized as much here because this board is very eastern-centric (as in east of the Mississippi) and it's all about them. At least the changing demographics over here are helping turn states from red-to-blue.

I don't know what the hell is going on over there. It looks like one big mess to me.

That could turn off the black vote.

R89, I suspect that because DL is eastern-centric, they only recognize varying shades of black or white demographics. It's either rust belt whites this or southern blacks that. It sounds exhausting and mystifying.

But that's OK -- we're used to getting ignored out west here.

"And will do better than Biden on Super Tuesday. It may not be best for the party, but you need to stick with reality."

WHO needs to stick with reality? Looking at YOU, R6!

LMFAO!!

I want him to pick whoever best helps him beat Trump. That's my only criteria.

R30, Duckworth say she couldn’t run, not that she didn’t want the VP nomination.

I like Chris Murphy or Pete.

Oh, and Barack Obama for the Supreme Court.

R90 California, Nevada, Colorado are already going to be blue. Arizona will turn blue one day because of Californians who can’t afford to live there and want a comparable lifestyle. I believe that’s why Nevada turn solid blue from transplants

r6 this comment didn't age well, did it?

[quote] Why isn't Michelle running for office though? She's charismatic and probably even more qualified than Dump after 8 years at the WH.

Gee, I don't know. Maybe because she sees the unfair treatment female candidates get compared to male ones. I find it funny that you think she should be happy to sign up for that abuse and her husband should not. Fucking sexist pos.

[quote] Andrew Gillum, almost forgot about him! He would be good. But I really want it to be a woman.

Why, though? Can’t we pick the most qualified person regardless of gender.

R93 did she maybe mean she can’t run run?

I'm promoting Abrams for chair of the DNC. Her personality is way too powerful for VP. She's a very intelligent, dynamic speaker, etc. and she has established herself on Voting Rights. That's her singular issue.

My prediction is Biden / Castro. Texas is close to turning blue and getting out the Hispanic vote there and across the country makes the math much easier for the Democrats. I know everyone else is predicting a woman for VP, but I can't think of a Hispanic woman who is ready to serve as a running mate. Julian is ready now, and he brings Elizabeth Warren supporters with him.

R102, I would be pleased with that ticket.

Hispanics in Texas just turned out heavily for Bernie. Castro would certainly be noticed by those voters and could probably get them to the polls in big numbers.

r27, AOC is still too young, don't worry about it.

Meghan Markle would shake things up.

[quote] Why isn't Michelle running for office though?

She really wasn't 100% on board with her husband running, she hates politics, she will never run for office. Why would she? She has it all now.

[quote]They (black) won't vote for a man who sucks dicks.

But they do ladies.

If Biden wants to pick someone with brains, vitality, and skills, then Pete Buttigieg.

I want Barack Obama for the Supreme Court.

Katie Porter

What is that growth by her eye!?

If you want things shaken up, then give the VP job to Stormy Daniels. Wouldn't you love to see her debate Mike Pence? I would!

Everyone’s all about the names everyone knows. I don’t think so.

[quote]Pete doesn't "suck dicks." He has only sucked one dick in his lifetime, and it belonged to his husband Chasten

It "belonged"? What's the matter, did Chasten lose his dick, or is Pete no longer sucking it?

And Pete hasn't said Chasten was his first gay sex, has he?

I'm a huge fan of Pete, but any man - not just a white man, any male - is going to be a tough row to hoe for Biden. There are so many women who feel betrayed right now - betrayed by what happened to Hillary in '16, betrayed by what happened to Kamala, betrayed by what's now happened to Warren - that the choice of a male Veep would be disastrous (for either Biden or Bernie).

Since there is a good likelihood that the Veep for the Dem nominee (either one) this year would go on to inherit the office, the choice is important. Everyone knows whoever the female Veep is, is likely to become the first female President.

[quote] Julian is ready now, and he brings Elizabeth Warren supporters with him.

No. Over half of Warren supporters would view it as a major insult, picking a man.

It has to be someone less likely for Biden to forget who they are during the campaign. We know it can't be his wife or his sister, since he already gets those confused.

He got them confused because they had switched sides, r118. Jeez, you're an asshole.

All the women were mediocre candidates. Especially Kamala. Biden should pick the person that he’s comfortable with on the campaign trail. We need to stop practicing identity politics. It’s maddening.

Val Demings - Black, woman, Florida, fantastic during the impeachment hearings.

Val Demings, Susan Rice, Corey Booker, or Eric Holder.

Pete Buttigieg will be Secretary of State.

Kamala is dynamic. She's a star.

[quote]We need to stop practicing identity politics. It’s maddening.

Maybe for you, you're a man. We are way overdue for a female running the country. AS long as there are qualified candidates - and there are several who are the equals or betters of the top male choices - the Veep selection should be a woman.

Hasn't Biden already promised he will choose a female Veep? He's said it more than once.

D - Geraldine Ferraro (VP)

R - Sarah Palin (VP)

D - HRC (Pres)

4th try? (2020 VP)

VP choices are very important this time because everyone is so old and on their last legs.

VP choices are very important this time because everyone is so old and on their last legs.

R123 Kamala’s a star in Oakland.

R124 I’m a female. A real one.

And you’re right. The country is trapped in identity politics. Only Pete understood that.

R118 - sort of like confusing Dayton for Toledo when it comes to gun shooting victims, like confusing what US states are in the path of a deadly hurricane and then using a sharpie to tamper with scientific evidence? That sort of thing?? Yeah, I can list a hundred more..

The majority of America, and even the majority of the Democratic party, has shown it is not interested in a female president at this time. If the majority or even a large percentage (say...15% of the Democratic electorate of an abundance of states) of them were, we'd still have a whip-smart lady in the running this election cycle. Putting a female into the VP slot with Biden when the chances are he'll be a one-term president (should he win) just to appease disappointed Warren voters, is ludicrous and would only do harm to the ticket in attracting the majority of votes needed.

[quote] betrayed by what happened to Kamala, betrayed by what's now happened to Warren - that the choice of a male Veep would be disastrous (for either Biden or Bernie).

What happened to Kamala and Warren? Other than not enough people voted for them? Warren came in a distant third in her HOME STATE! We should put her on the ticket? Hasn’t the public spoken?

Ruth Bader Ginsburg. A woman and in better health than Biden!

R133 - Well for one, Kamala Harris was never ON any ballot - part of why she very wisely exited when she did. Her polling wasn't looking great, but she remains a rock star in politics and a household name. She achieved a well-deserved voice. Warren is wonderful, but also never had a chance. I can see an appetite for a female VP, but not a female President. Sad but true. And if you think for one second that Dumpy Trump is not going to drop "Mother" Mike Pence and pick up Nikki Haley....just mark my words. My bet is that he will do it no matter who Joe chooses. If Trump ends up looking like the more progressive thinker of the bunch - what a shame for us. I really do think that our party is ready for a female VP. Said it.

Another vote for Val.

Nikki Haley is also a person of color. Trump will pick her.

[quote] Well for one, Kamala Harris was never ON any ballot.... Her polling wasn't looking great, but she remains a rock star in politics

You don’t see the contradiction in this statement?

But you left out "and a household name", R138. That's the point.

Liz Warren got labeled as being dishonest and opportunistic for deception in using Affirmative Action.

Some real minority lost out. Truthful or not, that is a substantial public perception, including among black people.

Nimrata Randhawa = Nikki Haley. Totally correct, R137.

[quote] But you left out "and a household name", [R138]. That's the point.

So what?

Dahmer is a household name, too. It’s what the name represents that’s the problem.

Cory is in the running. Ok we didn’t get our gay POTUS. Maybe at least we will get our first closeted Veep. Oh wait.

Amy, Kamala, Cory, and Liz are from solid blue states. Stacy and Pete have never won a statewide race. Sen. Sherrord Brown has progressive creds and he's been been reelected twice in purple state Ohio. Take Ohio from Trump and he has no path to victory.

But Ohio has a Republican governor who will replace Sherrod Brown with a Republican, so NO.

It's going to come down to Amy Pete Corey and Kamala. That's it. That's the list. He'll be under some pressure to take Elizabeth but he won't.

Why do people think the VP choice will come from the ranks of the also rans. Just because you know their names. You are all such giddy twats.

r147, That's actually a good point; there's nothing that says that Biden (or Bernie) has to pick his VP from among the others who also ran for president.

[quote] And if you think for one second that Dumpy Trump is not going to drop "Mother" Mike Pence and pick up Nikki Haley....just mark my words. My bet is that he will do it no matter who Joe chooses.

Some pundit was predicting this too the other day

Susan Rice Former National Security Advisor

Andrew Gillum. He has strong ties to the black community and to Florida.

Andrew Gillum? You do remember that he couldn't even win a statewide election in Florida don't you?

Pence would be all aflutter debating Gillum

Ron DeSantis, Republican, 4,076,186, 49.6% Andrew Gillum, Democrat, 4,043,723 49.2%

It is true he did not win. It is also true that he very nearly did.

[quote]Val Demings - Black, woman, Florida, fantastic during the impeachment hearings.

A former police chief whose record will be looked at very thoroughly.

[quote]Kamala is dynamic. She's a star.

She is a fantastic prosecutor but she never got beyond the stigma attached to her job and her reluctance to adopt criminal justice reforms.

No matter what actual happened in Southbend, it hurt Mayor Pete. Val and Kamala are not immune because they are black.

You don't want to put anyone in there that would dissuade anyone from voting in the general or that would give the right ammo to attack.

I agree that Susan Rice would be a better choice than both of them. She sounds perfect.

Choosing MO or Oprah or even Harris who dropped out long ago looks like they are treating this race as a joke. And picking someone just for fun.

The idea of Susan Rice is growing on me. In her interviews she never seems like "a politician" - more straightforward and direct, so harder to generate the usual "I hate her dishonesty" that gets thrown disproportionately at women.

[quote]Why do people think the VP choice will come from the ranks of the also rans. Just because you know their names. You are all such giddy twats.

Because Biden will be the oldest President we’ve ever had. It’s very likely he won’t finish his term and the VP will become President. This year, more than ever, people need to be comfortable that the VP is up to the job. The former contenders all have national recognition and have already been vetted for the Presidency. A lesser known governor or other representative hasn’t been.

Amy is the only one who has a proven record of being able to win in Red districts, and has the ability to win moderate Republican and Independent crossover votes.

Rice has Clinton tarmac taint. R147 is right BTW.

Susan Rice has Secretary of State written all over her.

[quote]Rice has Clinton tarmac taint.

No, that’s Loretta Lynch.

Rice has the stink of going on TV and lying about Benghazi, however.

[quote]This year, more than ever, people need to be comfortable that the VP is up to the job.

Yes, that's why it's unlikely for Biden to select one from the pack of losers that the voters have already decided are not up to the job.

[quote] Choosing MO or Oprah or even Harris who dropped out long ago looks like they are treating this race as a joke. And picking someone just for fun.

Or to seem “woke.”

My Trump-supporting co-worker thinks Biden will pick Hillary as his VP. Then, if Biden wins, he won't finish term and Hillary gets her presidency.

Either that, or Hillary comes into the race before the convention.

My Trump-supporting co-worker thinks Biden will pick Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as his VP. She will accept, betraying Sanders. Then, if Biden wins, he won't finish term and social justice warriors get their presidency. Either that, or Oprah comes into the race before the convention.

Stop listening to your Trump supporting co-workers.

Your unsupported smear of Susan Rice is simply untrue, R162.

If you think it is true, support it with some facts.

Adding Michelle on the ticket is surely fearful. Opening the door back for the Chicago machine to get into the White House. God Help Us!

Susan Rice seems well suited to SoS but as a VP pick would make suburban women happy because even though she is black, she is very much one of them. (In a good way.)

WIth absolute certainty, I can say that Michelle wants nothing to do with national politics. 10 years under the microscope was enough.

I want Kamala as Attorney General.

I said this on another thread, but our first woman president will be the VP choice of the nominee. Neither of these guys (or Fat Stuff in the White House) will make it a whole term.

Michelle will bring Jussie Smollett onto her staff. Nobody wants that.

[quote]My Trump-supporting co-worker thinks Biden will pick Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as his VP.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is not old enough to be President. And therefore is Constitutionally ineligible to be Vice President. I’m not surprised that your Trump-supporting co-worker knows nothing about the Constitution.

[quote]Your unsupported smear of Susan Rice is simply untrue, [R162]. If you think it is true, support it with some facts.

Well, here she is lying on TV... claiming that the Benghazi attack was a spontaneous event that occurred in response to an online video.

R160 Yeah, that was Loretta Lynch , you giddy twat, but then, all black women look the same... kinda like Chris Matthews with Tim Scott and Jaime Harrison... because, black.

I agree with the statement above that Susan Rice is exactly of calm, professional woman that would also appeal to suburban woman.

R175 Benghazi... and Hillary's email server... and the pizza joint selling children into slavery... are just all so outdated now. Anyone who would be moved by "Benghazi" would never vote for a Republican ever. In fact I doubt that they are compos mentis.

^^ never vote for a democrat

R162 said she lied. She stands by her statement and has been very clear that her statement on Meet the Press was made with the best information available at the time. After additional investigation, contradictory information was obtained. Which she acknowledges.

No lie. She did not lie. The only lie here is the lie from R162.

“[Sanders] will do better than Biden on Super Tuesday.“

“It may not be best for the party, but you need to stick with reality.“

That didn’t age well, did it, R6?

Biden will want someone who has name recognition. He may also want someone who is not too identified with Obama. I'd love to see some Obama people come back into government not necessarily as VP. Ben Rhodes, Susan Rice, Eric Holder, Sally Yates, and even though he wasn't Obama's guy, I'd LOVE to see Andrew McCabe brought back to government. We will need a Democratic Senate if you want to see these people confirmed , because McConnell will definitely try to stop Biden appointments to the cabinet. Never assume the Senate will be kinder to Joe. He was part of Obama's administration for 8 years and they shit all over him.

Susan rice is a criminal

It'll be Tim Kaine, mark my words. And then Biden will have a slip up and refer to him as his "gay running mate."

That would be sort of funny R183, the Battle of the Closet Cases

Though I have fantasies of a non-Kaine VP bringing a bunch of Sean Cody models to sit in the front row, rip their shirts off and start to make out every time Pence started to speak.

[quote]It'll be Tim Kaine, mark my words.

Democrats love to recycle their failed candidates, so maybe you’re right.

To those of you talking about Val Demings, she's married to JErry Demings, the Mayor ORange County Florida, who was also Police Chief before Val became police chief. Both of them got elected to their current positions in 2018.

Susan Rice knows foreign affairs thoroughly. She is very close to Obama and Biden has worked with her. Her only real controversy was Libya and the fallout from explaining Benghazi. She's qualified; and Biden is not going to pick someone with shallow political skills and/or experience. Susan Rice would be a top consideration.

Eric Holder was Obama's AG for much of Obama's Presidency. However, he got in hot water for refusing to appear before Congress, including hostile Republicans, to explain the fiasco of the "fast and furious" operation involving the distribution of firearms to track criminal activity around the border. His moustache is not appealing, but he is articulate, well-educated, and experienced.

Biden needs to win. While he needs a running-mate that appeals to black voters, he also has to attract an appreciable number of working-class white voters in the rust belt and elsewhere in order to win. He can't make the HRC mistake in overly depending on black voters showing up in enough numbers on election day.

Pete's strength would be with highly educated and the more affluent Democrats, His intellect and campaign skills are excellent. However, his demographic appeal is limited and there is no certainty he would overcome that to a preferred level during further campaigning..

Amy Klobuchar is a good campaigner and debater, has an accomplished Senate record, but also initially, may not generate enthusiasm with back voters. She would help in parts of the midwest.

Liz will not be picked. She hasn't made an endorsement, while others have already jumped on the Biden train. She is beloved by a segment of the Democratic party; but is viewed as polarizing to others.

People know Biden is a senior age candidate that's not as mentally sharp as he once was. Finishing his first term may have health risks, and doing two full terms is not an easy vision. Thus, Biden needs a VP that is NOW well-prepared for the job, appeals to the overwhelming majority of Democrats, and there is high confidence he/she will work well with Biden and the Congress.

[quote]Pete's strength would be with highly educated and the more affluent Democrats

That’s not the demographic needed to win. It’s the moderate white working class, blue-collar, and rural voters who switched to Trump last time. Amy is the best candidate who can get these voters.

[quote]Biden needs a VP that is NOW well-prepared for the job, appeals to the overwhelming majority of Democrats, and there is high confidence he/she will work well with Biden and the Congress.

Again, that’s Amy.

[quote]That’s not the demographic needed to win.

That's a contrary comment out of context as to what was stated.

He’s going to choose Hillary. Two months into his term he will decide to “step down” for the good of the country and Hillary will ascend to the presidency like Satan ascending from Hell. This has been the plan all along. The Clintons are gearing up for November already.

[quote]He’s going to choose Hillary.

A lot of people will stay home, just like they did last time when the two horrible choices were Hillary or Trump.

What’s obviously against Pete here is ethnicity and lack of relevant federal government experience. Gay is diversity but it’s not diverse enough. It’s not the diversity that counts. To invoke Senator Sanders, the “Democratic Party establishment” is not too keen on this perceived inexperience and outsider status. But then that just makes the noise for Stacey Abrams as VP seem even more like illogical pandering.

[quote]He’s going to choose Hillary.

No he's not. Stop spreading bullshit, r190. Hillary would never take Veep to Biden's President, and she's not interested in being a part of this election season. Your half-baked conspiracy theory is loony.

So.... anybody saying anything about Hillary is, by definition, just a boring troll, and needs to be ignored.

No, not by definition, R194.

You just happen to be, though. Absolutely.

Plus he starts his sentences with “so.”

Shame that Bozo the Clown passed away a few years ago. He's the only VP candidate that might make Biden appear competent.

Pete Buttigieg. He'd campaign hard, say the right things, and add brains to the process.

[quote] He'd campaign hard

I'd love to see it, but it would probably be better if he'd campaign soft. People get so touchy when a man with an erection starts haranguing them about politics.