Tell Me About Sao Paulo, Brazil. What Is It Like To Live There?

In São Paulo all seems to breathe freedom and peace, and to make one forget the world and its sad turmoils.

Many of the men there are hung like horses. Who cares about the rest of it?

Shit hole

For one thing, it doesn't have a beach.

I knew an exchange student from Sau Paulo, he was cute but one of the most disgusting human beings I've ever met. He came from a wealthy family, and absolutely hated the poor and blacks. He threw a fit when he found out his parents had allowed their black maid to become a live in maid and move out of the favela. Because he said he couldn't live in a house with one of "those" people.

Check this place out.

Crowded, overpopulated, and dangerous.

A fucking cesspool of humanity.

Terrifying. That's all you need to know.

Even in gated, guarded communities.

The pênis grande ain't worth it.

I've only been to the airport. Very nice, very modern. (At least the international terminal.) And it's HUGE.

All of Brazil is a disgusting HELL HOLE, made even worse by their homophobic Nazi President.

I would love to go for the hot men - but everything I read says it’s way, way dangerous. I’ll save the money and just hire a Brazilian escort in the safety of the USA. Not worth risking my life for good pinga.

[quote] He came from a wealthy family, and absolutely hated the poor and blacks.

What was his race?

The men tend to often have curved cocks. Why is that?

The word Brazil brings up intense hatred in me.

It represents racism, classism, poverty, Bolosaro, overpopulation, and ignorance.

I would never visit Brazil, even if my life depended upon it.

It is a SHITHOLE of epic proportions.

R13 White.

There's an awful lot of coffee in Brazil, but not many rich black folk.

“The men tend to often have curved cocks. Why is that?”

I’m a catcher; I don’t care if they pitch me a curve ball.

[quote] The men tend to often have curved cocks. Why is that?

They match the curve of the Equator, R14.

I learned something from a fellow who lives there. We flew San Francisco - Seattle on Virgin American in June 2010. Anyhoo, it's pronounced SAM Paulo. He bent down to get something and was commando under his trousers. There are times, and this was one of them, to thank the Lord above for being gay and having eyes. This guy was smoking hot.

And for OP's next geographically ignorant thread: Tell me about Vienna Austria. What is it like to live there?

I feel like I need to go before I die to see the beauty of the men. But it’s so far and so dangerous. Plus I fear when I go, it will be like crystal meth levels of addicting.

R4 exactly what I was going to say-

R21, what?

My father lived there a year for work. He liked it - a lot more than Rio. He thought it was cosmopolitan, pleasant. The bipolar economics are there, with so many people in an underclass, but he said what he sees in our cities is comparable. Less general anger. (I don't know if that's a good thing, but it meant no street crime that affected him like it did at home.)

Great food, great restaurants, great urban spaced for people watching, great shopping. And he said the people he met were warm, welcoming and fun. He was surprised at the number of German-Brazilians he met, but that may have been part of the business crowd he was engaged with. Government at the time was bad. A sense of everything nice on the surface and corruption underneath, but for a lot of the world that's called business as usual. Like here in the USA, too, but less covert.

I fear I would become addicted to the beauty and availability of the men and end up desperately craving a return to get more of that pinga.

R4 OP you do realize that it is miles and miles away from any beach/water.

Sao Paulo also has a large Japanese-Brazilian population, and some of the best Japanese food outside Japan.

The dick was amazing, and Brazilian guys love nailing Americans. If you are up for being the center of attention in a gang bang, you will have all the dick you could want and be in gay heaven.

R25 you are a fuckwad, it is a whole fucking 20mi from the center city to the coast, the southern part of the city almost touches the coast. Have you ever heard of measuring it on Google maps before you open your big trap?

Ugh R27 - you make me want to throw caution to the wind and get the next 12 hour flight to pinga heaven.

Braziian men are gorgeous, but all that uncut cock is a shame, I guess I would have to get fucked and no suck. They might not like that though. I guess I could get them in the shower and scrub them down good then get it before it gets funky like in five minutes.

The skyline seems endless.

For R28 and R25

In order to avoid the horrendous traffic jams as well as the very real danger of being robbed or kidnapped , the wealthy use helicopters to get around even if its just going for lunch.

r33 Great advice!

I'd rather watch a Kristen Bjorn video in the comfort of my own home.

OH!

269 Chilli Pepper - Sauna and Hotel

Going anywhere in South America is an awful experience.

Too much wealth disparity, the classism and racism is open and accepted, and the upper class are arrogant cunts.

Save your money, and go somewhere nice in North America.

OH!!!

Brazil is a beautiful country- from the falls to Rio and the north. Sao Paulo is not beautiful. It is a big sprawling mess- crime and gangs require armed guards outside apartment buildings and dirty as hell. But the country is beautiful as are the beaches. Sao Paulo is not on the coast, near but not on-

[quote]Sao Paulo is not beautiful. It is a big sprawling mess- crime and gangs require armed guards outside apartment buildings and dirty as hell.

Really?

[quote] Going anywhere in South America is an awful experience. Too much wealth disparity, the classism and racism is open and accepted, and the upper class are arrogant cunts.

I didn't feel that at all in Argentina, Uruguay, and Chile.

[quote]Save your money, and go somewhere nice in North America.

You mean like Mexico?

['quote] I didn't feel that at all in Argentina, Uruguay, and Chile

Are you kidding?

Those are the countries where those attitudes are the MOST prevalent.

Argentinians are stuck up cunts. Uruguayans, too.

Chileans a little bit less so, but it's still there.

Davey Wavey (who is not aging well) seemed to have a good time and it looked safe wherever he was in the city.

R37 and R42

It is actually much more pronounced in countries where the the upper classes are white and the lower classes are not, e.g., Venezuela, Columbia, Central America, Brazil.

Argentines and Uruguayos might might snobby but they're almost all white.

But R37 is correct, you go somewhere like Guatemala or Peru and the very white upper classes make Jim Crow era Southerners sound like BLM supporters-- it's a given for them that black people are subhuman monkeys and that the poor and "Indios" in general, are genial simpletons.

They live these oddly cloistered lives with bodyguards that revolve around their country clubs and their neighborhoods with one eye on Miami in case things go wrong for them.

^^And what's bananas is that these are not some inbred reactionaries, but rather people with jobs in the arts, medicine, law, banking who have been to college or grad school in the US and Europe and traveled extensively in both the US and Europe.

Davey Wavey, Max Emerson and the rest of the first wave of Instahos/social media “personalities” are facing the hard cold reality that that “career” ends with your looks by early 30s. Maybe get a real job?

She wasn't scared yet, because she didn't quite realize, yet. Right now, she was, she was just plain mad and she was hitting back...She just reached out for anyone. They weren't hard to find for a girl like Gilda...but wherever she went, whatever she did, it finally got to her that Buenos Aires was her own private prison. That's when she decided to run away. She went to Montevideo and got a job singing in a nightclub, started divorce proceedings, and met a man.

R46 Agreed. Davey Wavey is looking rode hard and put away wet for his age.

[quote]Tell me about Vienna Austria. What is it like to live there?

Well, there's Vienna sausage...

[quote]But [R37] is correct, you go somewhere like Guatemala or Peru and the very white upper classes make Jim Crow era Southerners sound like BLM supporters--

I am SO stealing this line!!!

Well, anyone know anything about the gay clubs, restaurants, areas to live, etc?

Tell me! Tell me! Tell me!!!!

The major gay area is around a street called Rua Frei Caneca, which is lovingly referred to as "Gay Caneca".

Lots of HIV

R43 That guy is the stereotypical gay that never grows up and can’t talk about anything but sex.

[quote]Lots of HIV

I find that surprising. It is my understanding (which can definitely be wrong) is that Brazilians are so into their bodies, ie plastic surgery, steroids, etc that I would have thought that PReP (and other anti-HIV drugs) would be a pharmaceutical company's dream location. Is it as sex oriented as one is thought to believe it is?

R55 See the link below.

I think people's expectations of Brazilian men are out of whack. Yes - you'll find gorgeous men on the beach - but that's what they do.

Many are meh. I've met many Brazilians in the US - a couple of hotties, but it's not like there's this extreme amount of beauty.

You guys watch too much porn.

Myth vs Reality, eh R57?

I had 4 Brazilian fuck buddies in Geneva. They were all very charming and great fucks and had xl hot cocks (but I selected for that). 3 weren't handsome, just average. None of them worked out but the bodies were good. I still see one a few times a year but like me, he's old and kind of gnarly but the sex is still worth it!

Have only passed through, but it struck me as the Atlanta of Brazil---sprawling ugliness. People who have actually lived there have confirmed that impression is more or less true. It's the center for wealth----lots of Italian and German post-WWII refugees who play a big role in the modern economy.

Not necessarily a rise in infected people - but rather more infected people now diagnosed.

Also last time I discussed this with a Brazilian, Brazil doesn't get the best HIV drugs and PrEP is not routine. Maybe that has changed. PrEP is newish in many countries. Brazil may qualify for generics. If it does not, they can't afford to hand it out like candy.

oK they have free PREP since 2018

Well currently it's going through major flooding, with traffic and transit tied up.

Personally not a fan. I have 2 friends there and have visited twice. Grimy, ugly, 22 million people, most of them in grim housing. The disparity between rich and poor is quite Stark.

Having said that, Brazilian guys are lovely and frequently stupid hot. And the myth of Brazilian dick is true. One important ground rules to remember, however, above all. DO NOT BRING THE GUY BACK TO YOUR ROOM. Ever. Surefire way to get robbed or killed. (Most hotels refuse to let non-guests in rooms for this reason.)

If you need to get some, saunas and sex hotels are the way to go - cheap and relatively safe. If you're looking to pay prostitution is essentially legal, and a rent boy can be had for USD$25 ($50 if they cum). Learn some Portuguese phrases for sexual and nonsexual negotiations, not too many English speakers around.

Bring large condoms with you, and or PREP. (Brazilian guys are taking PREP, but not as much as NYC.)

Seems like SP would be a stressful place to live. Crime is out of control, the current government is nuts and working as a foreigner is complicated.

It seems cheap to live there. Granted, the figures are from 2018

don't call it "pinga heaven", the slang term is "pau"

Actually, R65, "pau" is one of the endless slang terms for dick. Piroca, pirocão (big piroca) pirocudo, pinto (little dick), and so on.

It's like Eskimos having 50 terms for snow.

Obrigadão R66

This was quite interesting.

I've heard nothing good. I've had a few friends that worked there for a few months - if you stay in the wealthy enclave where most ex-pats are, then you're fine supposedly.

But not outside of that. The poster above who said that rich people use helicopters to get around the city to avoid crime (carjackings and kidnappings) is correct. It's also faster transportation-wise, but you have to think that helicopters would be a last resort.

I love bahia myself.

If they all have tits like they guys in OP's pic, Im there!

Did anybody rradvthe HIV aryicle5? It said it was due to more testing and awareness, not some radical prick in infections. They are just now finding out how much infection they actually have. Do you really think that a developing country has been in the forefront in testing? Stop the first world stigma of all "those" brown people. Nasty old queens with your noses in the air.

Muito obrigado! [R 66}

Muito obrigado! [R 66]...ooops!

cuntier posters on DL NEVER read linked articles and they don't have the thinking skills to understand most, anyway.

De nada R74.

One thing I'll say about visiting Brazil - no body shame whatsoever.

Which can work for better or for worse. I remember seeing 75 yo men shopping in Speedos in the grocery store.

They also tend to grab their dicks in public quite a bit. The old "check to see if it's still there" grab.

This is what it looks like, landing in Sao Paulo.

Just buildings, buildings, and more buildings.

Ugly as hell.

I think the absence of dramatic skyline is unique.

I would think that Rio would be the main reason to go to Brazil. Its a pretty city AND you get the hot guys. Sao Paolo juts seems like an ugly version of Rio.

r80 if you're just going there to get your back blown out by Brazilian trade then the pretty city don't matter, some people are on a budget!

If you are white and even give off a whiff of being a tourist you WILL get robbed.

There are many beautiful cities in Brazil. Sao Paulo is not one of them, unless you're REALLY into urban graffiti.

I was adamant at first to waste time and energy replying, but after reading so much bullshit about it, I kinda feel obliged to do it. I'm a Jewish Brazilian American. I'm a New Yorker and a Paulista (native of São Paulo). My Jewish American mom and my Brazilian father divorced when I was 7 so I've spent half of my life in Brooklyn and the other half in Higienopolis, a wealthy Jewish neighborhood in São Paulo, I'm fluent in Portuguese and I'm white, though Jewish I'm Caucasian looking like Chelsea Handler so keep this in mind.

Sao Paulo is a huge town with almost 20 million people. It's so huge, it takes 35 minutes to cross it by helicopter, something I did once for my job. Violence is concentrated in the slums. Unlike Rio where the slums circumvent most neighborhoods, the slums of São Paulo are concentrated in the suburbs, which means you can live very safe in many neighborhoods without ever dealing with it. It's true that some slums surround wealthy areas, as its well known in some pictures depicting inequality, but I grew up in a wealthy area you don't see poverty anywhere. It does happen and its more common than your ignorant asses think.

Sao Paulo has nothing to do with Rio. If anything it mirrors NY in a lot of ways, that's why it's called the big apple of the south. It has hundreds of museums, theaters, nightlife and first rate restaurants that are included in the Michelin Guide. Some comments here are so stupid I can't even try to counter. I'm not saying Brazil is perfect or anything, but SP is far from being a shit hole some of you imbeciles are trying to convey.

[quote] If you are white and even give off a whiff of being a tourist you WILL get robbed.

In your fucking dreams. My whole family in Brazil is white. Only a cousin of mine was mugged once. Actually I don't know many people that were victims of any crime. The people I know who suffered violence were all black an poor and lived in poor areas or in the slums. It figures. The idea white people or most people live in danger and paranoia is ridiculous beyond belief. Most people live the same lives most New Yorkers live, with all the dangers and challenges a mega city brings. I'm not sugarcoating it. It's just what it is.

You people fantasize way too much based on your coddled and privilege upbringings, I don't blame you. Maybe I'm desensitized. Who knows? I go to Sao Paulo every three months, as the company I work for has an office in there.

I love winter so Sao Paulo in winter is fantastic, the food, the weather, it gets very chilly. Last year winter went as low as 40. People are nice, there's plenty of places to go, lots of public parks, libraries, free cultural events etc.

My family is upper middle class, I've never once got close to an helicopter if not for my job. Only the uber rich do it. Most people have cars, take the subway which is very modern and safe (albeit crowded during rush hours) or bike, the town is full of bicycle lanes.

This town is nothing like some posters here say. Well maybe no one will listen to me, but since OP asked for an insight, I might as well give you a perspective from someone who lived there and can compare it to the US with some experience and not some Fox News point of view.

As a trivia note, in 2018 there were more homeless people in NYC than in Sao Paulo. Let that sink in.

See you.

Brazil still has one of the bests HIV public health systems in the world, even after nazi president stepped in. You can get tested everywhere for free and the government provides condoms, PREP and the other one for HIV+ people completely free of charge. All it takes is providing an ID and signing in for a program, absolutely free.

Why must you be so ignorant and reactionary? You sound like some Fox News anchor talking about the brown people and their shortcomings in the third world.

Sao Paulo is NOT far from the beaches. It's actually only 40 minutes by bus/car from the nearest beach in Santos. You can reach first rate resorts and beaches down North shore in less than 2 hours taking any major routes.

R84 Thank you. I’ve always wanted to visit SP but thought it is too dangerous.

It is too dangerous, R86.

Don't listen to R84.

He's one of the Brazilian upper class, and has no clue what it is to live in the the REAL Sao Paulo.

It's very dangerous.

I won't waste my precious time with the likes of R87. The real Sao Paulo, what are you talking about? I've been everywhere in that town. As a matter of fact, part of my trip has to do with a tech social program my company holds at Paraisopolis the biggest slum in the city, so I've probably been to more real parts of town than you think, whatever that means. You type moronic and paranoid.

Do you actually think people live in fear like in a cartoon? I get that's what some morons here on this thread imagine life in Sao Paulo is like. It isn't. Well in the slums it is, but that's everywhere with a slum, isn't it?

Statistics are very clear, the biggest targets of violence in Brazil are poor black Brazilians in the slums. The biggest perpetrators of crime in the country are not robbers, kidnappers or criminals in general, but the police which is racist and targets the poor areas. Most deaths in Brazil as a whole are perpetrated by the police against the poor. That's the reality of the country, the rest is just pure fabrication of your ignorant imagination.

That doesn't make it right, but the point I'm trying to make here is that there are thousands of middle class, and lower middle class areas in town you won't have to worry about that. The gap is not of super rich and slums, this is not Mad Max, there's a HUGE middle class there, both upper and lower to balance everything.

I could go on and on about other towns with no crime and a very safe standard of living but I guess I'd be just wasting my precious time. I hope I could help OP, which was the point of this post. Take care.

R57

Is correct, not every Brazilian man is some sort of good looking god. All you have to do is watch any of the tons of gay porn that comes out of Brazil to see proof of this; some hot scorching hot, others so so, rest are plain old "meh".

NYC (they've seemed to corner the dog walking/sitting market), parts of New Jersey and South Florida are full of Brazilians, and can assure you not every single guy is some sort of Adonis.

[bold]Crime rates in Sao Paulo, Brazil[/bold]

Level of crime: 83.83 Very High

Crime increasing in the past 3 years: 73.46 High

Worries home broken and things stolen: 55.46 Moderate

Worries being mugged or robbed: 79.47 High

Worries car stolen: 72.38 High

Worries things from car stolen: 74.30 High

Worries attacked: 57.42 Moderate

Worries being insulted: 44.01 Moderate

Worries being subject to a physical attack because of your skin color, ethnic origin, gender or religion: 26.42 Low

Problem people using or dealing drugs: 74.48 High

Problem property crimes such as vandalism and theft: 77.84 High

Problem violent crimes such as assault and armed robbery: 84.91 Very High

Problem corruption and bribery: 91.56 Very High

[bold]Safety in Sao Paulo, Brazil[/bold]

Safety walking alone during daylight: 46.69 Moderate

Safety walking alone during night: 15.31 Very Low

R84/R88 is one of those elitist, upper class, white South American snobs that everyone here talks about.

So clueless, yet knows-it-all.

"Why waste my beautiful mind on all of you idiots." That sums up white Argentinians, Uruguayans, and Brazilians... PERFECTLY. It's all about THEM, and their own self-importance.

These people live in a privileged little bubble, thinking that because they lived a charmed life, well everyone else must, too!

Oh, I'm sure those people in the favelas just LOVE it.

What a stuck up cunt you are.

Interesting...

From my very limited experience there are 3 Brazilians (who all happen to be from Sao Paulo) who I know that I would consider to be white who don't view themselves as such. While they will date white men they are very skeptical (for lack of a better word) of white people. Also. it's not like they have adopted the Black culture or any other culture except Latino. That's what all 3 of them think of themselves as. I have noticed that they are very distrustful of other Brazilians.

Take a look.

Flash mob including actors from gay-themed Brazilian movies

I love this Sao Paulo-based slut. Lots of videos of him fucking and masturbating in night streets of SP on his twitter account.

Is he related - in any way apart from his career choice - to Blessed Boy?

R91, you seem very invested in challenging my personal experience and invalidating what I said. You sound unhinged and mentally ill. Your attack on me is uncalled for. I won't engage with you any further. Go seek professional help.

I was very excited to post here with my personal experience on a topic I actually have knowledge of, your personal attack on my is nasty and out of place. I never claimed to be an authority on the subject and only gave my personal experience with very clear qualifiers of race/appearance and social class. I've never denied violence and even explicitly addressed it, which you probably missed or deliberately ignored because it didn't fit your stupid vendetta against me.

You don't know me or my story to call me snob or coddled just because I happen to come from a wealthy Jewish family. I'd bet good money I know more parts of Sao Paulo and its social issues than you'll ever do. Just so you know my parents and grandparents are academics and hardcore anarchists. My grandfather was raised in a kibbutz and he's a major Marxist. I wasn't raised in a bubble of privileged alienated elitists but in a family of very socially aware people, on both sides of my family, but I don't owe you an explanation of my life in order to validate a post on a message board.

My experiences and what I wrote is just as real as anyone else's, I won't be guilty and won't apologize for them.

Vai tomar no cu.

I hope at least OP is satisfied with what I had to offer.

This attack is unnecessary and toxic I'm out of this bullshit thread for good.

Take care everyone else.

Thank you, R97

bicha aborrecida!

Is it true drinking the tap water will give you diarrhea?

Yes but it is cheaper than diet pills.

I have to say R90 kind of won the argument with facts. Which is consistent with what I’ve read elsewhere. I assume the Paulista is so aware and experienced about SP that he may not experience it as a tourist would. Like living in Chicago - you can live in certain neighborhoods and never experience the crime. But the facts remain - it’s a dangerous city.

There is a good chance that if you set foot in Sao Paulo, you won t be living for very long, it's a very dangerous city.

Don't upset Miss Priss from Sao Paulo, R102.

She might storm off in a huff again, complaining about having to deal with us "idiots."

Rofl.

Please don't disturb her "beautiful mind."

I spent almost a month there about 15 years ago. My experience matches R23's father. I enjoyed it, the Brazilian men I dealt with were charming and many were breathtaking. Fantastic restaurants and open-air cafes. It felt very European in many of the Jardins. We also took a day trip to the beaches - beautiful and not any farther than hitting the beaches in Orange County from most of Los Angeles.

Brazil is a MASSIVE shithole, the only nice city is Curitiba and even that is deteriorating fast.

It’s beautiful and so safe! You should visit as soon as possible!

[Quote]Brazil is a MASSIVE shithole

NEW YORK was a massive shithole in the 70s, 80s, and early 90s, but many people loved it, and still long for it, due to its uniqueness, excitement, and many wonderful safe spaces where being mugged and beaten would've been less likely. Give Brazil the same consideration for those enthralled by it.

r100 That's true for Americans just about anywhere except most first world countries. You're pretty much directed to use bottled water nearly everywhere. That said, I had no problem with tap water in Argentina.

Sao Paulo has the largest Gay Pride Parade in the world.

This is what's it's like to be black in Brazil. Even the blacks have bought into the view that they're inferior and all aspire to marry "up" to "improve the race".

From black skin to blue eyes: Why did the social network of a popular black hairstylist celebrate the whitening of his family on Black Consciousness Day?

There's more German DNA in Argentina, which explains why its people are generally better looking than Brazilians, but are more withheld. Personally we prefer it: it's more civilized and seductive. The permanent hot exciteable lather of Brazilians is as exhausting and inane as a randy dog rubbing up against one's leg.

R113 is EXACTLY why I hate Argentinians.

Cold, aloof, arrogant, and humorless.

They make me sick to my stomach.

And I'm an American, but Argentinian people leave me feeling COLD.

They're very creepy.

Lot of good that German DNA has done for Argentina...

R113 - “permanent hot excitable lather” is a great description - lol. Yes it’s broad brush - but funny and a kernel of truth. I’m Irish and we think that of Italians.

People from Argentina are basically Nazis in exile, so R113 is pretty much a perfect example of that.

Well... you guys aren't making Sao Paulo come across as exciting. Maybe, Recife?

German, French, Italian, Spanish, British.... many "white" Europeans are well represented in Argentina.

Even Eva Peron couldn't resist bleaching her hair to appear more "European" which what Argentine society prizes.

From late 1800's through post WWII years immigrants from Italy, Spain and France (in that order) made up large majority. First two alone made up nearly 33% and 25% respectively. Germany OTOH really didn't send that many immigrants to Argentina, and despite their dominance in certain areas Argentine of German ancestry make up a small number of overall population.

Sao Paulo Pride Day 2020

Carnival Week ends this week for those that didn't make it.

In the 1930s, Brazilian president Vargas encouraged immigration from the Baltic states in order to 'whiten' Brazil's demographics.

That's what sucks about Brazil.

The ever-present racism.

Of course, Brazil was the LAST country on Earth to abolish slavery. Racist fucks.

Brazil couldn't get enough black slaves, when the slave trade was booming, but the minute they did away with slavery, all of a sudden they want blacks gone, and whites to immigrate to the country?

Brazil can go fuck itself.

Recife is like the shark attack capital of the world, OP/r118. Don’t swim at the beach! Too many bull sharks 🦈!

There are some beautiful mansions in Sao Paulo.

I just can't imagine wanting to visit Sao Paulo. It looks like everything I dislike about cities, pooled together and amplified a million times. The crowds, the greed, the crime, the filth, the inequality, the stress, the sheer UGLINESS.

You can get Brazilian men elsewhere in Brazil and out of it, without having to put up with any of that shit.

Exactly, R126.

And it just seems to go on forever, and ever, and ever...

Like the City-Planet in Star Wars.

I didn't like Santiago, Chile, and Santiago, Chile is a small town in the boonies compared to Sao Paulo.

R127

That image is going to be much of Manhattan below say 60th street in a few decades or less. At least far as Mid-Town, and parts of lower Manhattan are concerned.

If you cannot build out, you must build up which is why places like Hong Kong, Sao Paulo and others have such high density sky scraper housing in prime areas.

Here's another view of Sao Paulo.

It just goes on and on...

Definitely not a city for people who dislike big cities.

The difference is Sao Paolo doesn’t seem to have interesting skyscraper architecture. NYC does. Even the new finger buildings are more interesting than anything I see in Sao Paolo.

Coincidentally , there is an exhibition on Sao Paolo architecture on LaGuaedia Place in NYC right now just below Washington Square. Looks like the building is owned or leased by the Brazilian government. The pictures do not contradict the idea that it’s an ugly city.

Sao Paulo looks like a city where the majority of its inhabitants probably haven't even seen one tenth of their own city.

I can't imagine anyone knowing the entirety of the city, which makes the poster from Sao Paulo even less credible.

His experience is probably in his little bubble, especially considering that it's a mega metropolis.

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That come with such little packages, R134?

I wasn't coming back to this stupid thread but here I am. Let me just say I was involved with Google Street View and I can guarantee you I've been to most parts of São Paulo and other major and small towns in Brazil and the US. I don't live in a bubble, but I have no time or energy to engage any further. Think what you will. As always the bitterness of this site destroyed what could've been an interesting thread.

If anything you're the ones sounding like privileged little idiots, calling everywhere you've never been to a shithole. You sound old, bitter and ignorant. Going to Europe once a year doesn't make you more cultured. You live in a bigger bubble than you think. Why ask what is it like to live in a city you don't know if you're gonna invalidate every answer from the people who actually live there?

You're a bunch of assholes, you deserve this little shithole of a message board.

It still could be an interesting thread, R136. And no, I'm not trying to placate you and your tantrum. What surprises me, (as person asking for information), little to nothing has been posted about the gay lifestyle in Sao Paulo. Yep, someone mentioned a block and a large parade but that was about it. You mean to tell me (the naive and stupid one) that as large as Sao Paulo is that there isn't a gay ghetto? Or, a creative/artistic area of that big city where the artists, dancers, GAYS, live? Just only ONE nightclub (which looks more like a bath house--thank you) has been mentioned? There are no gay restos? Hip museos?

Post some pictures of beautiful parts of Sao Paolo. The government put up an entire exhibition of SP architecture in NYC and I honestly did not see one pretty building, landscape or interior.

R136 has stated her cunty boundaries.

Please bow down to her, because she's a white, rich "Paulista," and DEMANDS your respect.

You fucking peasants!

There doesn't seem to be a single tree or blade of grass in SP.

On the other hand, I've heard the Japanese restaurants are pretty good.

[quote] There doesn't seem to be a single tree or blade of grass in SP.

Sao Paulo has 113 public parks with lots of green areas and the city is so big, it's impossible to say an area is like the other. Some neighborhoods are just as green as any American city, just watch that gay themed film The Way He Looks on Netflix and you'll see them walking around their neighborhood with tress and boulevards everywhere. The last shot of the film when they take a bike ride is in a boulevard surrounded by trees and houses but I'm sure you'll find fault on that too and will bitch about something else.

At the outskirt of town there's a big garden and a mountain where people visit for eco tourism. It's not another town but a borough of the city, of course you knew about it too, didn't you? You know it all.

The city also has many modernist buildings designed by Niemeyer or inspired by Modernist architecture. Its a known haven for architecture lovers, same goes for Belo Horizonte and Brasilia anyone who really studies architecture is aware of that, but of course you aren't, because you're just a bunch of snobs who think you know too much about everything, even when you don't.

Don't you have google? Use it. You clearly don't want to hear from personal experience, you already made up your minds. So fuck it and look at some pictures and videos and fabricated your fantasy in your head. You clearly don't care about the real experience people have there. Like many smug queens, you just want to confirm your delusional bias.

For the few non assholes on this thread, "Striking Vipers" the first episode of the last season of Black Mirror was shot entirely in Sao Paulo, including the beautiful parks you see there on the computer game world. If you want to hear form Americans what was their experience in town, watch their interviews about it. The people who made Sens8 also shot there, watch their interviews about their experience there too. Maybe you'll learn something.

My friend recommended me this message board and I thought it would be cool to interact with you guys. He was wrong, you're just a bunch of old pathetic privileged losers with less sophistication than your arrogance allows you to see. Take care. I'll be in Sao Paulo in 12 days. I'll make sure to enjoy it while you fantasize about it with your mediocre knowledge of the real world beyond your Park Avenue experience.

Here's a 4k walk through Ibirapuera Park, the city's largest. Shot in 2019.

Enjoy

Here you can watch how one of Sao Paulo's most beautiful boulevards - Avenida Paulista, formerly lined with the mansions of coffee barons - was turned into a concrete jungle.

I love how the Paulista repeatedly uses the phrase “interact with you” - like a different class of human. I’m 50/50 if this is a troll who has throughly inhabited the role of the condescending Brazilian upper class - or an IRL delusional wealthy Paulosta who is affirming every stereotype of said type.

R143 - Thanks for posting that (and how obscure is that?). As an American-Brazilian, I would hear from my mothers older friends about how magnificent Avenida Paulist once was but had never seen any evidence of this architecture when visiting São Paulo

Boy, I completely missed the triggered Paulista drama queen. Guessing that's a good thing.

I know that the one of the most famous buildings in all of Brazil is Edificio Copan by Brazil’s most famous architect Oscar Niemeyer.

[quote] I’m 50/50 if this is a troll who has throughly inhabited the role of the condescending Brazilian upper class - or an IRL delusional wealthy Paulosta who is affirming every stereotype of said type.

It's definitely the latter, R144.

Scroll through this thread, and you'll see that the Paulista is very haughty and arrogant.

The first time Miss Thing chimed in at R84, it was with:

[quote] I was adamant at first to waste time and energy replying, but after reading so much bullshit about it, I kinda feel obliged to do it. I'm a Jewish Brazilian American. I'm a New Yorker and a Paulista (native of São Paulo)

[quote] I'm fluent in Portuguese and I'm white, though Jewish I'm Caucasian looking like Chelsea Handler so keep this in mind.

[quote] I grew up in a wealthy area you don't see poverty anywhere. It does happen and its more common than your ignorant asses think.

[quote] SP is far from being a shit hole some of you imbeciles are trying to convey.

In just that one post, we were called ignorant asses and imbeciles.

Then at R88, Miss Thing reminded us that she was wasting her "precious time" on us:

[quote] I could go on and on about other towns with no crime and a very safe standard of living but I guess I'd be just wasting my precious time

Then at R97, she referred to us as "toxic" and flipped her cape, as she stormed off from this "bullshit thread."

At R136, she declared "I have no time or energy to engage any further," as she proceeded to expend energy on engaging us once again, and ended her tirade with this doozy:

[quote] You're a bunch of assholes, you deserve this little shithole of a message board.

But she wasn't finished hurling insults yet. At R141, she first lectured us to:

[quote] Don't you have google? Use it.

Miss Paulista then ended that post with yet ANOTHER doozy, before storming off to Sao Paulo for 12 days:

[quote] My friend recommended me this message board and I thought it would be cool to interact with you guys. He was wrong, you're just a bunch of old pathetic privileged losers with less sophistication than your arrogance allows you to see.

I've seen some bitchy, arrogant, and entitled queens on this board before, but THIS ONE really takes the cake.

I'd actually be amused by her, if she didn't take herself so fucking seriously.

A consequence perhaps, R148, of life in São Paulo? What a flaming douchebag.

If she’s a typical example, then it’s not only the city that’s ugly and devoid of charm.

Oh for fuck's sake, R148, the rest of us CAN read his posts!

I spent four days in Sao Paulo at a conference a few years ago. We stayed in the Higienopolis neighborhood, which was very nice. The hotel was quite comfortable, there was a huge upscale shopping mall - very U.S. style -and several nice restaurants within walking distance. It was interesting to see that some of the original grand homes still remained, though many had been demolished for high-rise apartments that just rise up on single lots, one next to the other. We never felt unsafe walking around the neighborhood, though one noted barbed wire on top of the walls surrounding some buildings (not unlike parts of NYC).

Getting around Sao Paulo was a different story. It is so large I could never get a proper orientation as to where we were in relation to the rest of the city. The Art Museum has a great collection. The Opera House is beautiful - modeled on the Palais Garnier in Paris. It has a strong, vibrant cosmopolitan feeling. There is much very distinctive modern architecture, though most of it is surrounded by soulless pencil towers. I agree with the poster above that midtown Manhattan is similarly becoming 'Sao Paulo-ized" with the many overly-tall sliver buildings now going up. They are much taller than what you typically see in Sao Paulo, though perhaps more interestingly designed.

[quote] for fuck's sake, R148, the rest of us CAN read his posts!

True, but putting his cuntiness all together in one post, really drives the point home.

The Paulista loser is the embodiment of the white, rich upper classes of Latin America. I remember a poster here saying that their behavior would make the Southern racists seem like BLM supporters and that comment is spot on.

A lot of upper-class European-dominant Paulistas like to hang out in Buenos Aires whenever they can, where they feel more at home.

[quote] A lot of upper-class European-dominant Paulistas like to hang out in Buenos Aires whenever they can, where they feel more at home

Why is this not surprising?

Argentina and Brazil are both havens for former nazis.

I have to assume this is true, R155, from personal experience. Years ago and before Joseph Mengele's remains were exhumed from his grave in Embu, near Sao Paulo, and tested to positively confirm his identity, Brazilians of German extraction I knew told me it was him. I remember one telling me that he'd died swimming in the 1970's. Five or six years later, it turns out that's exactly how he died.

The German Brazilians knew it long before the pathologists could confirm he was dead.

I'm not saying everyone in Chile, Brazil, or Argentina with a German surname was or is descended from a Nazi, but there are plenty of them there.

Just the other day there was a shootout at a concert.

[quote]there was a shootout at a concert.

[R157], may I remind you that nobody does it better than the US.

R84 is correct. I'm a SP native - Italian on my mother's side and Polish on my father's. The thought that being white automatically gets you mugged is bullcrap.

OP asked about women. They're gorgeous. Lots of closeted bisexuals - it's exhausting. Still, there's a decent lesbian scene.

Also, OP, some cool gay clubs you should go to over here: The Week, Tunnel, Bubu Lounge.

The Week

[quote]Oh for fuck's sake, [R148], the rest of us CAN read his posts!

Nothing will convince me the Paulista was born with a penis.

Oh R162 No matter what we breed We still are made of greed