It's Friday, so tell me about Kate Jackson.

She's fine! She sends her love, OP.

Kate was "the smart one."

She still looks good. I remember reading that she had a pill problem for most of her life. She used the same Dr as Michael Jackson.

Several years ago, she had her house condemned, which is when it came to light that she's a hoarder. Nothing since then. I hope she got help; she was always my favorite angel.

Did babydykes across America all respond to her?

It only came to light very very recently in a radio interview with Jaclyn posted online (mad I can't find it now but it was in the past 12-18 months, and Cheryl was a surprise call in guest IIRC) that the usually reserved Jaclyn got candid for a moment and bluntly alluded to Kate's craziness in a way that was clear they really weren't close friends (as she and Ladd are) but more work colleagues.

Cheryl has always cautiously but firmly talked about how cold Jackson was to her in their two season overlap. In the Angels episode formula, the four of them often pair up (two Angels work the field, third angel pairs with Bosley), and the Kris-Sabrina teaming is by far the rarest and sometimes in their scenes together they'll be driving or staking out somewhere so Jackson and Ladd don't even have to look at each other in the scene.

Kate doesn't have any contact info on IMDB anymore and she hasn't done an interview in years, not even for a tabloid. If it was money she needed, you'd think someone could do a GoFundMe like they did for Dawn Wells. After all, Kate was on 3 highly successful series.

R4 Here's my theory on Dr Klein. He had to stop handing out scripts like candy when Michael died, which of course is the same day Farrah died. Kate's breakdown with her house, etc, was discovered in the following year. I think losing a safe connection to prescription meds may have led her to try less favorable drugs and a downward spiral.

R7 I'll look for the interview. I remember one from years ago where she said Kate went to the beat of her own drummer and was "different." It's sad, because they were close in the 70s-90s.

It seems like her son turned out well, which is more than you can say for many children of celebrities.

Poor Redmond seems destined to crash and burn repeatedly.

[quote]Jaclyn got candid for a moment and bluntly alluded to Kate's craziness ...

Kate IS crazy. Producers stopped hiring her and agents and managers stopped representing her because of her erratic behavior and unreliability. She would miss important appointments and engagements and she would even fail to show up for work, sending people scrambling to try to find her or reach her. She would finally return calls days later with no explanation other than, "Oh, I didn't know," "You never told me," or "My fax machine is out of paper" (these were the days when we faxed schedules and itineraries). I suspected that perhaps it wasn't drugs but early onset dementia that was making her behave this way.

I checked her imdb profile and her last project was in 2007.

Someone said she was writing a book, but never finished it and had to return the money? Any truth to that? I'd have loved to have read her version of the Angels, losing the "Kramer vs Kramer" role,"Making Love", and Andrew Stevens "pulling up a trailer to her home" when they got divorced. I also think she was good friends with Cher for a bit. I bet she has some GREAT stories!

I'm sure she has a lot of stories, hanging out with Liza, Cher, etc. Sleeping with Andrew Stevens.

Anyone ever meet her?

Thanks for helping to entertain me!

I really am fascinated with her. Once on Twitter someone asked Jaclyn Smith if she ever heard from her anymore, and Jaclyn replied "Sadly, no, but I wish her well." That was a bummer. I think Kate is in peril.

She did, of all things, a comic book convention in LA a while back. She still looked good.

She sat at a table singing photos (I bought one); she listened patiently, but I think that she seemed uncomfortable ...like what am I doing here?

I didn't keep her long; it wasn't a well attended con, but I told her I thought she was a great actress and I told her about the Frank Miller Daredevil graphic novel; he wrote about Vanessa, the Kingpin's blind wife, "she's beautiful...like Helen of Troy...or Kate Jackson..."

I still have the photo.

I always thought she was a lesbian...wonder if she had an affair with Dolly Patron. They have a connection.

I can see why they stay in the closet; if they came out, they'd never be taken seriously as anything other then celebrity lesbians.

I met her once when she came into the small business where I worked in 1983 or so. She was with actress Marcia Strassman, and it was very clear to the sighted that they were both lesbians. They acted very nice and very dykey.

She deliberately broke a dinner plate in "Making Love."

She was on The Rookies TV show, back 1972, before CA

R18, ironically, Ontkean's character lived down the hall (I think).

Yes, R19. Both Ontkean and Jackson were in The Rookies.

She appeared as a ghost on Dark Shadows for its last season and a half, and then in the second (and last) movie after its cancellation, House of Dark Shadows (or was it Night of DS? I always confuse which came first). During the filming of the movie, she and David Selby had an affair that apparently almost broke up his marriage. Thankfully it didn't, and he and Chip are still married today.

I think she's probably a true bisexual, or maybe enough of a narcissist to crave attention and affection no matter the gender.

Somewhere, maybe on someone’s Instagram, there is a picture of her and Tanya Roberts at a signing. It’s probably a couple of years ago. I can’t remember if they did the signing together of not, but it was the first time either of them had met. The photo was posted by the fan who was at the signing.

Kate had some disturbing work done.

She looks OK but her eyes are messed up. They no longer match. One goes "up" at an alarming angle.

I always liked her and am sorry for her current mental state.

And it was her bank account Andrew Stevens backed his trailer up to.

What a douche. And a teeny tiny one at that.

I wish someone could find a recent picture of her. I think she might perhaps have dementia or something.

Hopefully, she'll get caught hiding in a neighbor's bush, like Margot Kidder.

Does Kate have all her teeth?

A couple of years ago there was a thread about an online sale of her stuff coordinated by a longtime fan. It was basically just crap that she signed with a Sharpie.

As I recall she sued her business advisor. I guess they settled out of court, but she said his actions ruined her financially. If she was in such bad financial shape then what the hell is she living on now, besides social security?

Kate worked more than enough to draw a Screen Actors Guild pension. That along with her SS check she may get, along with residuals (although I'm sure those don't add up to all that much anymore) she can get by on. Creditors can't touch SS or pension income unless it's for the government.

She has more resources than your average down-on-their-luck person.

Loved her on Dark Shadows as Daphne - and she and David Selby had amazing chemistry. I even thought as a kid they were probably lovers off screen. It was said co-star Grayson Hall encouraged their relationship. David got appendicitis during the last few weeks of DS and Kate sat by his side - where was his wife? She was also someone (like Donna Mills who also started on soaps) I could see having a great tv career, if not a film actress.

We just had a thread about KJ, OP. Did we need another?

She was my favorite Angel, and I thought she was really beautiful. I also thought she did a great job in "Making Love." She should have had a film career after that.

She managed to get 2 Emmy noms for Lead Actress in a Drama Series...for Charlie's Angels. Getting that kind of a result out of those scripts is certainly a tribute to her talent.

R26, that financial advisor was Farrah's business manager, and supposedly, he ended up not having to pay Kate a dime. She contended the he convinced her to buy a home in Santa Monica that she couldn't afford, that he told her the home would never lose value, and that he overestimated her worth and told her she could live off the interest of her $4.5 million savings. Well, the house lost value and the bulk of her savings was eaten up by her underwater mortgage.

Kate, honey, many of us did the same thing--we bought homes we couldn't afford and we inflated our incomes to get those subprime mortgages, and when the housing market tanked, we all ended up underwater, but we certainly didn't have $4.5 million to live off of. Should we have sued our advisors and real estate agent? We all knew the risks and took a gamble. Sour grapes.

I'm waiting on something here in LA that could get me out of my crappy rent controlled apartment, but I think if I ever make some serious bucks I'll think more than twice about overspending.

If I don't end up keeping this place, I'll get a one bedroom condo somewhere with every freaking modern convenience in the world and then invest the rest.

probably one of her Emmy noms was for Angel in Love where Sabrina goes undercover and falls in love with bank robber hijacker Peter Haskell.

She has to give the gun to Kelly to cover him after the truth comes out, devastated that a man she's grown to love is on the wrong side of the law.

Simple stuff that would play today. She had great training, great instincts. She made great choices. Farrah needed a script like the Burning Bed to shine.

I was so sad when she came back to TV as Amanda King on Scarecrow and Mrs. King. I figured this is going to last for a few years and no movie career.

That moment when she and Farrah and Jaclyn came out on stage for the Spelling tribute was fantastic. 27 years, I think, after Charlie's Angels debuted and they all look great.

When the Charlie's Angels Emmy tribute to Spelling was in the planning stages, Farrah was being wishy-washy and wouldn't commit, so Cheryl was approached, and she being a loyal friend of the Aaron and Candy, was game. Should Farrah ultimately say yes, they would've brought out all four. However, when Kate got wind of this, she nixed the idea and insisted that when people think of CA, they think of the originals, Farrah, Kate, and Jaclyn, not the replacements. So Kate contacted Farrah and convinced her to do the show.

I don't get Kate's hard on for Farrah and dislike of Cheryl.

There's no way Kate could have respected Farrah as an actress; she was horrible on CA; couldn't pull off a convincing undercover role. Giggled all the time, she fell back on that laugh.

I think the first season of CA gave the Angels some backstories -- Kelly was an orphan who couldn't commit to Tom Selleck; Sabrina had an ex-husband AND a dad. Not sure about Jill.

Farrah wasn't well spoken in the clip; kind of made it about herself and what she went through. Cheryl would have been much better spoke and as she was on FOUR seasons of CA, no one would have found her presence glaring. I do agree it was best to only have three Angels come out for the tribute but Kate, Jaclyn and Kris would have been fine, in fact, even better.

The show did not hit No. 1 until Ladd joined it, btw.

A couple days ago on Twitter, someone asked Jaclyn if she knows where Kate Jackson is. She said, "I do, and we've stayed in touch through the years. I am proud to still call her a friend."

It's nice that Jaclyn is still in touch with Kate. She's answered a few tweets about their relationship.

I didn't realize that Kate's friendship with Liza started back in the early 70's, during her Rookie days.

That photo of Liza and Kate pings for me, quite loudly and clearly.

Les-be friends, indeed.

Once upon a time, Cher and Kate were besties. I wonder if they still keep in touch.

Yes, R6. All the women I had a crush on while growing up have ended up being gay/bisexual except Nancy McKeon. I now have my doubts about her.

Cher looks like she's going to devour Kate for dessert in this photo.

New (to me) Kate Jackson fact:

"2. She came up with the name "Angels."

After her popular role on the series The Rookies, producer Aaron Spelling secured Jackson as the centerpiece of his next series, an action show about three female private investigators. The working title was The Alley Cats. But Jackson, who had some creative say in the development, was no fan of the title. In one meeting, she looked at a painting of cherubs hanging behind Spelling's desk and suggested, "How about Angels?" The show then became Harry's Angels, but the existence of a series called Harry O forced the final edit to Charlie's Angels."

I've heard that 70s lesbians were crazy for Kate Jackson, and looking at photos I can understand why. There was just something kind of dykey about her.

Kate had incredible chemistry with David Selby. Their DS love scenes were REAL.

For the past month or so, I've been watching season 1 of The Rookies, the 70s-era series in which she starred opposite Michael Ontkean, Georg Stanford Brown and Sam Melville (who played her husband). She played a nurse and there wasn't much to the part but I find her really interesting. I'm not surprised Aaron Spelling booked her for Charlie's Angels immediately following The Rookies' demise.

Fun fact: Sam Melville, who played Kate's husband on THE ROOKIES, also played her ex-husband on SCARECROW & MRS. KING

I thought Sam Melville was handsome. He kinda pinged for me.

That Kate Instagram fan page has a pic of Kate, Cheryl and Jaclyn at the People's Choice Awards in 1992 where Aaron Spelling was honored. I guess Farrah declined to appear, and they went with Cheryl. I bet Kate wasn't too happy about that. But, I guess she didn't hate her enough to back out.

Please share more Kate Jackson info. I'm delighted when new things are added and could use happy distraction during quarantine.

The last time I saw her in anything was on an episode of Bravo’s Shear Genius, in which she was a guest judge (Jaclyn was the show’s host).

r10 [quote] In 2010, Gallery Books Publishing announced the release of Kate Jackson's biography, The Smart One. After countless postponements, the book is due to be published in December 2020.

I came across the info just now, it's from an article published August 2019 - hopefully accurate!

I was so Farrah crazy at the time.I actually remember thinking Kate was almost plain in comparison.Now when I see photos of her I think she’s absolutely stunning.Of course back then it was very clear she was far and away the best actor!

R53 That's like saying Nick was the best Jonas Brother! lol

R52 I followed the book's release dates for years.

I had heard it was finally scraped.

I don't think she can get it together enough to finish it.

That's too bad, R55.

I wrote a book and you have to power through and finish it.

It's hard writing and harder writing 'the end'

but you gotta.

Kate was suppose to be at the Chiller Theatre autograph show next month, damn Coronavirus

Kate Jackson has been a recluse for over fifteen years.

There have been stories of mental instabilty, drug use, and hoarding.

I really don't think she's capable of finishing a book or even showing up at a chiller convention.

I'm a hoarder, a year ago I hired a home organizer and we threw out maybe 40-50% of the stuff that needed to go.

I've been splitting my time between coasts to do some parental caretaking so, I never seem to be here for as long as I wanted.

Now, thanks to coronavirus (I work from home, thank goodness), I'm on top of it again. Am hoping to get another big chunk done in the coming weeks...and months...

It's Friday again!

And Kate still hasn’t left the house.

But then again neither have I.

I guess she WAS the smart one!

The hoarders and the agoraphobics have had shelter in place down to an art. They should be teaching master classes in this for the rest of us during this time.

if this quarantine lasts three months and I don't have my apartment in order by then, then I never will.

Another Friday at home.

I hope Ms. Jackson is safe from the the corona.

R64 I'm sure Kate is mostly staying in and she seems the type that would play it safe if going out, wearing a mask and gloves.

Someone is selling a yearbook from Kate Jackson's senior year.

I wonder who Mammy is. I'm betting she had a southern childhood like seen in The Help.

Or...R66, it's a Pancake House.

Please someone do a Covid wellness check on known bipolar addict and hoarder KJ.

They should stunt cast her on Will & Grace in place of Mulally.

Grace shows up at Kathy Calloway's (special guest star Kate Jackson) apartment for a consult on redecorating it, but she's stunned to find that Kathy's a hoarder -- only Kathy doesn't see it!

Meanwhile, Will and Jack get jobs at the local health club as trainers.

Can you do a different thread for each Angel, until we run out, be that of angels or days? Something about Jacklyn Smith says “Wednesdays” to me.

Farrah Fridays!

R72 Alpha Kate has already staked a claim for Fridays, and anyways it doesn’t always need to be all alliteration all they time. Also Farrah trying to take away Friday’s just screams more me, me, me like leaving the show early. She has six other days to her choosing

R73, Do want you want then. I’m going to go hang out with John Forsythe until this gets straightened out.

Kate Jackson was a serious girlfriend of Edward Albert at one time.

R75 Better Edward Albert than Edward Albee, it sounds like he was horrible to Terrance McNally.

I know it’s not Friday, but here’s and update on Kate. This message was posted to Facebook by the guy who is now managing her appearances at autograph shows - he had her booked into the Chiller show that was supposed to happen a few weeks ago and was cancelled due to COVID.

Busy being a mother? What age is her son?

24 or 25, depending on what month he was born R78. She adopted him in 1995, so it must have been an infant adoption.

Sure sounds like a pill 💊 problem to me!

I’ve always loved her crisp style.

I've always liked her. Isn't the son special needs? That would explain why she might have to devote so much time, with little time for other stuff.

Has the Scarecrow commented yet?

Big week for Kate -- it was Bruce Boxleitner's birthday.

Does anyone know where Kate is living these days?

R85 In a van, down by the river?

Seems like a lot of female celebrities go into hiding when their looks start to fade or their facelifts go bad. I thought Kate was above all this.

The strangest female celebrity PS to me is Patricia Cornwell and Jane Wagner (Lily Tomlin's wife). You write for a living and you're a lesbian. You got the golden ticket out of such shallow concerns.

Patricia Cornwell is a freak show now! She was a very pretty woman but she ruined her face.

They all get that same look with eyelifts, as if their eyes are fleeing their temples for sanctuary in the shadow of their nose.

These interviews must have been filmed well over 10 years ago, there's some good moments with Kate.

I wish the Angels would reunite for a TV movie. Kate, Jaclyn and Cheryl in "Angels 2020"

fuck that bullshit with Kristen Stewart.

You know they’re like 85 years old now...?

R92 “Once upon a time, there were three senior citizens who lived in the retirement community, and they were each assigned very hazardous dining room seatings, I took them all away from that....”

Everybody from that era is in their dotage now. Well, the ones who are still alive.

Cheryl, Kate and Jaclyn could still make some money if they appeared together in something, especially a reunion movie (maybe Netflix?). They're all just over 70 now but they look okay. Jaclyn doesn't need the money but she'd do it for nostalgia. Cheryl would do it if Jaclyn did, and she could probably use some money. Kate definitely needs money, but she's always refused to participate in anything with Cheryl.

I’d rather see a reboot of Scarecrow and Mrs. King with silver fox granddaddy Bruce Boxleitner!

That TV Tales is a time capsule in itself. All six of them have had plastic surgery at that point. All of them are still saying extremely positive things about the show, and euphemizing or barely alluding to the tough times (they let others speak about that--note how it is the one person who wasn't there, the author of the CA book, who the documentarians use to really spill tea and say things on camera the others didn't/wouldn't say). Spelling was still alive, and thus, still able to give them jobs. Only Doyle had died, but Ladd didn't cry about him the way she did in a later retrospective interview.

Cheryl's face is tight as a drum and she's got her bangs to cover her forehead and she's working her swingy fake ponytail. Kate's got cat-eyes from her surgery. But it's before Jaclyn's later drastic facial revisions, she still looks like herself, but requires the lighting/soft focus that none of the others get. Farrah seems to be in a rough place when her interview was shot. Shelley's sang-froid hadn't yet melted, and Tanya's just older and less redheaded/more blonde.

Charlie's Angels was before my time. Was it a popular show with gay guys of that era?

Bravo, R98.....you nailed it!

[Quote] Was it a popular show with gay guys of that era?

No, just lesbian prison wardens.

[quote] You know they’re like 85 years old now...?

If Angela Lansbury can solve crimes so can they.

In the hour and a half (!) doc above, Kate does seem... a spitfire. She was easily the most charismatic of the angels interviewed.

Leonard Goldberg looked better in old age.

Farrah never had an attractive nose but it became a shark fin as she aged (and surged).

What the fuck was up with Fred Silverman's ear?

After watching the doc, it makes sense to me why Kate held Cheryl at arm's length. I didn't realise that Fawcett became a sensation in the wake of the TV movie pilot, before the series even premiered... Kate probably expected Cheryl to be Farrah Mk II (i.e. not to be trusted, could jeopardize the show).

According to the TV Movie made about the Angels behind the scenes Kate threw a Rona Barrett Hollywood magazine across her trailer upon hearing the news that Farrah had left the show.

Farrah jumped the gun too soon. She should've stayed with Charlie's Angels for another couple of seasons.

Why? It wouldn't have set her up for anything afterwards.

The doc above says that Farrah got 150k for each of her 6 guest star shots. She made 5k per episode in the first season.

Farrah didn't really do much for several years after she left the show. She could've been making money.

She made a million dollars for her first movie after "Charlie's Angels". Wiki dates it as 1977, so it's incorrect to say she didn't do nothing for years afterward, nor did she earn no money.

Who remembers that movie? It was a huge bomb.

[Quote] Who remembers that movie? It was a huge bomb.

What Farrah Fawcett movie wasn't a bomb? More Charlie's Angels wouldn't have helped her movie career. Did it help Kate's? Jaclyn's?

She could've stayed on a hit show, though. She was never going to be a movie star. Back in those days tv stars didn't become movie stars, with only a few exceptions like Sally Field.

[Quote] She was never going to be a movie star.

She made more money from those flop movies (and the guest stars slots on CA) than if she'd stayed on the show. And she kept her status as a Charlie's Angel in popular culture.

I don't know why everyone was so tough on Cheryl Ladd. I was a big Farrah fan during the show's run, but never disliked Cheryl. She was great fit for the show. Kate Jackson's two replacements were much more awkward.

Who would have been a perfect replacement for Kate Jackson?

[quote]She was never going to be a movie star. Back in those days tv stars didn't become movie stars,

You're forgetting John Travolta. And Ron Howard, who left Happy Days and reinvented himself as a popular, acclaimed director.

Aaron got Farrah the Goldie Hawn role if Farrah agreed to stay on CA.

Kate was the original choice to do the Meryl Streep role in Kramer vs. Kramer. But they refused to let her out of the show to do it.

It's quite possible that they would have had decent movie careers.

But they DIDN'T r117. Like 99% of tv stars back then.

how could Kate have respected any of her co-stars as actresses?

Jaclyn was serviceable; Cheryl could be good.

Farrah? Jill laughed through most of the storylines.

I know it's only Thursday, but I just couldn't wait!

It's Friday! Let's gooo!

R116, she never would have done it, but another Kate, Kate Mulgrew would have been great. She was in Mrs. Columbo because Silverman was such a fan of Ryan's Hope.

They Shelley Hack-ed when they should have Morgan Fairchild-ed.

what amazes me is the show never delved much into the personal lives of the Angels after season 1.

We know that Sabrina had an ex and a dad; Kelly was adopted. Why not explore those?

They should bring back all 5 women for a reunion TV movie along with a shovel they could use to either dig up Farrah or recast her character with (though there wouldn't be much of a difference).

R125 They could get Heather Locklear.

Jaclyn Smith never invited Kate back to her home after she stepped on Bootsy Gumdrop's tail.

They 15-25 years too late for a reunion movie. They all too old now.

Leonard Goldberg said in 1986 that he'd pay them a million each to do a reunion movie. He made it clear he was only interested in the first 4 Angels (Kate, Farrah, Jaclyn and Cheryl) but also conceded it was unlikely 3 of the 4 would agree to do it (he was right).

I suspect Kate and Farrah were the holdouts. I think Jaclyn and Cheryl would've done it. If they've would've excepted Shelley and Tanya, they probably would have as well (especially Tanya).

In the early 2000s, I was a teacher at Kate Jackson's son's elementary school. He wasn't in my class, I never had direct contact with with her.....but I saw her around all the time. She was weird! She walked around in sunglasses, turtlenecks & hats (even if was 90+ degrees) like, "don't speak to me." Like she was Zsa-Zsa Gabor or something.

R129 I thank you for sharing a crazy KJ story. I suspect there are many more...

Love her! and her crazy!

She was working on a case, r129!

And here we find ourselves on another Friday night. I hope you are well and have some thoughts to share with the group regarding Ms. Kate Jackson.

R129 Love the real life story. It's nice she was there a lot and involved, even if she was odd about it. Did the other teachers share gossip?

I wonder when things shifted for her. Some people experience mental issues following open heart surgery, which she had in the mid-1990s. Her mother died in the late 1990's, not long after she adopted her son, and they had been very close.

I also read that she had been on vacation at Martha's Vineyard with her son, and decided to extend their stay. Their original plane tickets to return home were on American Airlines Flight 11, which was hijacked and crashed into the North Tower of the WTC.

Maybe that close call pushed her over the edge mentally.

Lovely little interview about "Making Love."

Thanks, R134 -- I'm a big fan and I'd never seen that interview before!

R133, Seth MacFarlane was set to fly on one of the doomed flights; he misread the departure time as the boarding time. he's said that he's missed half the flights he's been booked on in life so he didn't see it as any divine intervention.

My 911 story is that I flew out of NY at 7 AM that morning and fell asleep on the flight; the airline was supposed to fly us out the night before only weather called it off.

We had to land half way across the country and I ended up taking a bus back.

Poor Kate. She was (is?) a great actress.

I do believe that there are drugs involved as well as mental illness.

The Enquirer story pointed to this several years back with photos of the hoarding. and KJ and son cruising the streets of the valley in a lowrider.

How far she has fallen from the orange Pinto.

She should have done THE HELEN REDDY STORY.

Only On Lifetime

R137 I agree that drugs must have been a factor at some point. For what it's worth, that isn't her son in the car photos. Her son is a cute curly haired guy and not into drugs, etc.

The pics were taken outside of a pharmacy, and it looks to me like the guy is an uber driver or something.

Are you sure they are not of the son?

Those photos were taken years before Uber became a thing.

Also, please try and track down a photo KJ's curly haired son.

I'll see if this Instagram link works...

R141 Thank you Angel!

Why did she adopt her son?

is she lacking a vagina, like Jamie Lee Curtis?

Why do so many folks on here claim it's mental illness?! We simply do NOT know! There seems so much nasty gossipping in the internet about Kate. And we know most of the gossip is not true or totally exaggerated. So please don't support the spreading of lies. I think that is actually what is really difficult for Kate. She's had to deal with a lot of unjustified rumors. Who knows, maybe the lies and rumors is what made Kate retire. I read recently that she is enjoying life out of the public eye. I hope this is true. She deserves happiness. I'm a huge fan and love her a lot.

R133 Goodness, is that really true that Kate and her son would have been on American Airlines Flight 11 on 9/11 had she not extended her stay at Martha's Vineyard? Never heard about it. I can't even try to imagine how she felt when she heard the devastating news?

Kate's a survivor! Her fight against breast cancer twice, the open heart surgery, 9/11!! Be safe in these trying times, girl! I really want you to be happy!!

My mother was a waitress at one of the restaurants near the studio. She waited on a lot of celebrities. One day my mother waited on Kate Jackson. When she came home, she said, "Kate Jackson came in today. What a sweetheart, a real doll." My mother also used to work at the MGM commissary.

Well R144 if Kate were so troubled by it all, she could do her hair and nails, slap some paint on her kisser and go on Oprah Where Are They Now or its ilk. She could turn in the autobiography she'd announced and finally it would be published. Or even simpler, she could start herself a Facebook page as a public figure--even if she had to have one of her fans/friends do the tech part of it, and do a weekly or monthly update. The platform is waiting for her to utilize it, and it's free. She could call her union (SAG/AFTRA) and use one of the programs they have to help seniors navigate tech.

Most of my friends got their cell phones in the late 90s. Surely 20+ years into everyone having one, Kate, or someone near her, has a cell phone with a camera? Do we need to do a GoFundMe? She's only 71, which would have made her early 50s by the time the internet had become omnipresent in our lives. Jac and Cheryl (was just singing God Bless America!) have FB pages, and Tanya does live chats on Facebook and Zoom.

So if she has anything to say, or if she wants to put rumors to rest, no one's stopping her. Those of us who care about her (because of her body of work) would love to hear from her, so we can cheer or help, whatever's appropriate.

R147 I don't know if Kate Jackson is troubled by it all or not. It's just that the tabloids have been really really nasty with Kate. It seems they won't stop spreading their BS gossip and make it look as if Kate is in peril when she may not be at all. Maybe at some point she was. Maybe not. We don't know. I think it also would be pointless to try to put rumors to rest. Rumors have a momentum especially with the internet. People keep spreading lies it's really sickening to see all the garbage being written about Kate.

Also I think it would take a lot of energy to go back into the spotlight such as being on Oprah or to publish a book or doing interviews when they always come up with the same stupid questions. Kate used to be a high energy person and maybe she still has lots of energy. But in general folks her age like to take things easier. Why bother with the ugly tabloids again when they now seem to have run out of new stories/lies. When it would be almost impossible to make the old rumors go away anyways that these bastards keep spreading.

Oh I'm sure Kate has a cell phone. She and Jaclyn text each other and talk on the phone and meet when possible. Of course I don't know where each of them lives. Probably not in Hollywood anymore. Kate certainly not when she is so successful being out of the public eye. But it looks like she chooses not to be on Facebook and interact with her fans. I'm sure if she did the rag sheets wouldn't be far away always trying to find something to pester her.

Well, I so would loooove to read her memoirs from her childhood, her time in NYC, her road trip all by herself from NYC to LA around 1970, her time on "The Rookies" and of course "Charlie's Angels" and all that goes with it, her groundbreaking movie "Making Love", going back to series like "Scarecrow and Mrs. King" and all her other work she's done. And her ups and downs in her private life. She really would have a great and gripping story to tell with a lot of awesome photos, too. Well, I guess sadly it's not going to happen.

Even though Kate often times came across as an extrovert in her 20s or 30s it looks like she is also an introvert. I once read that she didn’t like to go to those Hollywood parties and being bored by the small talk. She'd rather be home and play the piano or the guitar and do other stuff. I read that when she was on "Charlie's Angels". So now at 71 and after those glory days and the craziness of being famous and the gossip I imagine she is enjoying the freedom of being out of the public eye, at peace with what was. I really hope so.

She probably yells at the walls. Or at least snarls.

She seems like a bitter bitch.

R146 Thanks a lot for sharing your mother's story. That's so wonderful. From what I've heard Kate must really have been lovely. Very down to earth even when she was a big star like when your mother met her.

I recently came across this lovely story about Kate. When she was about 21 and worked on „Dark Shadows“ there were two siblings, Kasheba and Johnnie. They were teens and took on Kate’s fan club and became close friends with Kate. She would take them and two other friends to her home on the Lower Eastside in NYC to hang out and play games.They also went ice skating together and did all kinds of stuff. They lost contact when the show went off air but a couple years later they ran into Kate at a party at Studio 54 when she was a Charlie’s Angel. They hugged and Kate told them to call her at the hotel she was staying in NYC but unfortunately she wasn’t there when Kasheba called. Unfortunately she didn’t try to call again and regrets not having stayed in touch with Kate. Kasheba mentioned Kate’s beauty and her beautiful personality.

R148 I don't believe Jaclyn Smith has talked to, texted, or seen Kate Jackson in years.

PS from the hoarding photos in The Enquirer I believe she only smashes pianos and guitars.

Love Kate, but that homespun tale is too much....

Considering the bipolar, the rage, and the possible pill-popping.

R34 Thank you for this! I LOVE your comment! Everything! So so true!

R151, in the past couple months, Jaclyn was asked on Twitter if she'd been in touch with Kate recently, and she replied that she was and that "I'm proud to call her my friend."

R151 Where is the reliable source about the assumed bipolar, the rage and pills? The Enquirer is awful! Reliable sources please.

The truth is, Jaclyn does’t like Kate so much because she swatted Bootsy Gumdrops once in the middle of a rant.

It was the first and last time Jaclyn had Kate over to her house.

Her marriage and later, divorce from Andrew Stevens cost her a fortune. Andrew preferred to spend rather than work.

R154 fair enough regarding the Enquirer.

Kate has a notorious reputation on sets for being trouble. Mood swings, argumentative, and downright crazy that is well-documented.

When I saw the hoarding drug house photos the maid took it made sense.

[quote]r156 Her marriage and later, divorce from Andrew Stevens cost her a fortune. Andrew preferred to spend rather than work.

You think this comes cheap?

Didn't she have that cheap lingerie line line at K-MART once?

R157 The fact that The Enquirer even exposed her is what troubles me the most!! It's very cruel! How could they do that? They should be deeply ashamed of themselves! It happened 10 or 11 years ago. And the way people keep talking about it makes it look as if it all just happened. And to make a diagnosis based on rumors is awful, too! So many so called experts on the internet…

Someone who knows Kate said she is enjoying life out of the public eye. And he had dinner with her in February 2020 and she looked great and is doing fine.

All Kate has to do to refute the rumors is allow cameras to be installed in every room of her house for a month, and let the Nation be the judge.

[quote] Didn't she have that cheap lingerie line line at K-MART once?

That was Jaclyn Smith.

Whose net worth is probably at least $100M, R162, maybe more. The clothes, the home decor, the wigs, the skincare--not to mention her husband's heart surgeon money and any money they've made from passive investments.

She need never drag her ass to the set at 5 am again. Good for her, especially when you think about what she started with.

R148 Jaclyn is still in touch with Kate.

A line of Kate Jackson lingerie sounds awful.

Turtlenecks, fine. French cut panties, no. (Not in her wheelhouse.)

R163 she didn’t come from nothing like most of these people actually. She’s from an upper middle class family from Houston and her father was a Jewish dentist.

Maybe that’s why she was comparatively more well adjusted and not so fame hungry.

Kate’s three husbands all had quite athletic bodies. Can’t blame her :-)

So what was the deal with her marriage to Andrew Stevens? (Love Stella)

Was it a bearding situation? Never believed Andrew would be attracted to her (his type is slutty airheads) and always believed Kate was too smart to be tricked by a pretty boy grifter.

I bet Kate weilded a mean strap on.

Stevens earned every penny.

R168 According to Kate while they still were together: "Before we knew what hit us, we were madly, passionately in love." They had only dated for 6 weeks and then got married.

Why did they break up? I think he broke her heart.

You are right. Kate wasn't his type. After Kate there were really these slutty airheads. Well, I guess he is opportunistic and Kate was famous. Go figure. And then that creep took A LOT of her money. It's all I need to know about Stevens.

[quote]r170 I guess he is opportunistic and Kate was famous. Go figure. And then that creep took A LOT of her money.

I know some want to make Stevens look like a villain because he broke up with their poor Sabrina Duncan, but he was a celebrity, as well, and worked steadily throughout their years together. It's not like he was a layabout freeloader.

Where do those stories come from?

Jackson also looked old enough to practically be Stevens' mother ... though his real life mother (Stella Stevens) was actually sexy.

R172 Wow Kate looks sexy! Beautiful couple but he was too young.

She was a chicken hawk.

R166 I didn't mean her family lineage, I meant whatever natural talent she had. She's beautiful though.

R151 Jaclyn and Kate are still friends.

@realjaclynsmith June 26, 2018 We all see each other when we can, but I would love to see them more. I just got a text from Kate with a Randy Newman song...did you know she sends the best texts? #AskJaclyn

R151

@realjaclynsmith July 18, 2018 Yes! I haven't in a while because he went to college. He is a great young man, Kate and him are very close. It's great to see! #AskJaclyn

R151

@ShuemateKarla August 21, 2019 @realjaclynsmith #AskJaclyn- are you still in contact with Kate Jackson?

August 21, 2019 Absolutely! We stay in touch as much as we can.

R151

@realjaclynsmith December 6, 2019 Actually I had lunch with @RealCherylLadd and I spoke with Kate on the phone yesterday. I love how the holidays bring everyone together.

Did we mention that I won her what could have been her Oscar for Kramer Versus Kramer?

R181 You are one lucky gal, M, aren't you. Well, about time to say thank you to Kate.

M had already been cast in the film (either in Jane Alexander or Jobeth Williams’ role.)

She would have won the Oscar for that, even if Kate Jackasson played the part of Joanna.

Has anybody here read the novel Kramer Vs. Kramer? The character of Joanna, as written, was dead-on Kate Jackson. She would have been perfect.

I think she got the offer because she was dating Dustin Hoffman at the time.

Kate would have been perfect awesome!

Here's what director Robert Benton said: "In the spring of 1978, we had meetings with Kate Jackson [to play Joanna Kramer]. She was terrific, but the network began throwing up obstacles because of their scheduling for Charlie's Angels. We said, "Sooner or later, they are going to make it impossible.“ Which is exactly what Spelling and Goldberg did... What the „Kramer“ team wanted and had found in Kate was quote: "somebody who has an enormous presence and skill“.

[quote]R184 Has anybody here read the novel Kramer Vs. Kramer? The character of Joanna, as written, was dead-on Kate Jackson.

[italic] Streep found the character in the novel and script unsympathetic ("an ogre, a princess, an ass"...)[/italic]

Sounds about right.

R174 They look really smoking hot in this pic and I think they had a passionate, hot love affair going for a while. Until Kate realized that he was a dough headed sex maniac who was after her status and her money.

Did she HAVE a ton of money? I think she was initially paid twice what the other two angels were paid, but I thought it wasn’t all THAT much, in Hollywood terms.

(On the other hand, she doesn’t seem like the kind of performer who’d blow a lot of money on cars... or, certainly, clothes.)

Jackson would have shined in Kramer; she'd have gotten an Oscar nod and maybe even the win.

The competition was: Jane Alexander Margaret Phelps Kramer vs. Kramer Barbara Barrie Evelyn Stoller Breaking Away Candice Bergen Jessica Potter Starting Over and Mariel Hemingway Tracy Manhattan

I thought Bergen was great in Starting Over; hilarious when she thought she could sing. I've never seen Manhattan. I thought Barrie was touching and strong in Breaking Away.

Even if Kate didn't win, she would have gone on to get other great roles. It's too bad. She's a terrific actress.

I don't know whose idea this was, but it was terrific and tasteful given the occasion.

1980s

R188 I guess during her marriage with Andrew Stevens she had a lot of money but certainly nothing compared to what a big movie star had. Yes, initially Kate got 10,000 $ per episode (not a lot in Hollywood terms) while Farrah and Jaclyn got 5,000 $ each. This was fitting because Kate was already an experienced actress with a couple of films and "Dark Shadows" and "The Rookies" under her belt. She was a pro. While the other girls had to learn their stuff on the show in the course of time. Also Kate was the co-creator of Charlie's Angels. It was her who had come up with the idea to call them Angels and their mysterious boss. Of course Kate never got credited for that. Spelling/Goldberg never paid her anything for her crucial ideas for the show. Without her there'd never have been a show called "Charlie's Angels".

R189 I so agree with you! Kate would have been awesome in "Kramer vs. Kramer". Her range of acting skills was so terrific. Even given the weak scripts on Charlie's Angels she showcased her talent for comedy and drama. And also in action scenes. She even did a lot of her own stunts. I also loved the subtleties in her acting. She never was boring and owned the screen.

Absolutely, even if Kate didn't win the Oscar, that role would have led to other roles and that's the tragedy about it. She wanted to give her very best as an actress and explore different roles. I can see how not being allowed to do "Kramer vs. Kramer" must have been devastating. The CA executives should really have been ashamed of themselves for doing this to Kate.

The 2006 reunion was wonderful and touching.

[quote]r191 The CA executives should really have been ashamed of themselves for doing this to Kate.

Why should they sacrifice their investment in their own show so she could go work for someone else?

If you want to blame someone, blame the Kramer team for not shooting in the summer (or whenever her show was on hiatus), when Jackson would be available.

r94 We can use the Villages in Florida for the retirement community...they never have to go outside the gates to find, sex, drugs, STDs and racism.....a whole season of shows!

[italic]Charlie's Retirees

Or 192, split the difference; Joanna wasn't in the film that much.

The courtroom scenes, she walks out, the coffee shop, the end of the film; it's too bad. I think if Kate had tacked on another two years to her Angels contract (which might never have been exercised), then she could have negotiated getting off Thursday afternoons for a few months; she could have filmed Kramer Friday, Sat and Sun and then back to helping Kelly and Kris solve the crimes on Monday morning.

I remember when she played the smoking bitch woman who wanted to adopt Kelly's 'baby' in one episode.

The bad guys were horrified by her.

LOVE that episode, R195!!

It’s Saturday now, can you put it away for another week please.

[quote]r195 she could have negotiated getting off Thursday afternoons for a few months; she could have filmed Kramer Friday, Sat and Sun and then back to helping Kelly and Kris solve the crimes on Monday morning.

That would have involved flying back and forth to NYC every weekend. Not only would she have been exhausted, but it would put both projects in jeopardy if either had to shoot late, a flight was cancelled, etc.

R198 I’m sure that bitch Candy was behind putting her foot down and saying “No way, Jose!” to that idea.

R199 Who is Jose?

Sorry, I just imagine Candy Spelling as being very much like Kath & Kim since she has a similar relationship with Tori as does Kath with Kim.

Warhol wrote of Kate in his diaries... SHADE. Warhol thought she was a sentimental cornball...

They could have brought on Tori as The Littlest Angel (Jill and Kris' baby sister) while Kate was gone.

Missed opportunity!

FUCK OFF, R197!!

Also.....that was sort of funny.

R204 On Wednesdays we wear pink and on Fridays we discuss Miss Kate Jackson!

R198 they did a lot of coke then no big deal.

Oh do tell r202. Although tbh anyone Warhol hates I consider to be a compliment.

Oh and I'm reading in the Enquirer about Kate Jackson and Andrew Stevens. Kate was out with us at Halston's in Montauk this past weekend.

She was with

^^ WARHOL google books wouldn't paste into the link ^^ Warhol just mentions Kate was with Yul Brenner's son, ROCK BRENNER

Is Andrew Stevens now a lesbian?

R202 R206 R207 Andy Warhol wrote of Kate in his diaries: Monday, July 20, 1981 ."...Kate was out with us at Halston's in Montauk this past weekend. She was with Rock Brynner, Yul's son. Kate will do things like look at the ocean and say how beautiful it is, or go out alone and stare at the moon or walk along the beach alone and pick up a rock and throw it. (laughs) I'm serious! That kind of corny thing. I don't know. She's from the South, but still..."

I like that! I'm like Kate. I do those things. What's wrong with that? And what does that have to do with being from the South? Warhol's remarks are weird.

Yer right R210. It's "weird" as in "exceptional." The Warhol Diaries are literally word-for-word and often catty phone chats that Warhol made to Brigid Berlin the morning after a night out. That's just Warhol blathering on — AFTER Warhol dropped names about who was with whom at Halston's party. It's a detail that caught Warhol's eye that he felt worth mentioning. DID YOU SEE THE PHOTOS from Halston's party? Didn't see Warhol in the images tho

R211 Thanks a lot for the insight! Oh okay. Well, I'm certainly grateful for Warhol to tell these things about Kate. I love it. No, I didn't see the photos of Halston's party? Where can I see them?

Well, it's Friday. Start talking about me, gays!

She was on an episode of Match Game '76 on Buzzr TV today.

Kate never gets any love for her short-running sitcom, Baby Boom. 22 minutes of laughs isn't her thing. But the network must have believed in her, because surely the series rights to a big film like that didn't come cheap, and neither did she, with multiple hit shows under her belt.

The rumors, etc must be hard to accept and face publicly. Over the years, though, the public has been kinder to celebrities who are humble and honest with their missteps and difficult times. There's no reason for pride to hamper her indefinitely.

While she may enjoy living out of the public eye, after she dies she won't have a chance to tell her side of things. The rumors will come back kicking, and I would hate to see her life and career reduced to some troubled years.

We are all capable of falling apart, there's no shame in that. She could reach others who have had difficult times need inspiration finding their way through.

^The problem is, I don't think she's found her way through, yet.

Is this all because her husband was gay in the movie?

Say what you will, but she dodge a bullet by not being slapped by Dustin Hoffman.

Oh, Match Game! Kate avoids being kissed by Gene while Fannie looks on jealously.

Bring back Kate for Match Game 2021, Alec Baldwin!

Part of the reason I suspect she's had problems these years she has been a recluse. She had a lucrative deal to write her autobiography. The title was "The smart one". This was on the Publisher's release schedule for 7-years, it kept being bumped because, Kate could not get it together even with a ghost writer.

R220 Kate is so beautiful and cute in this show. So young.

It’s Saturday, time to put this thread away for another week.

Hey wait a minute! I haven't even had the time to join the discussion yesterday. I need my Kate fix.

R219 I guess you could be right.

Check this out. Hoffman briefly talks about Kate!! I like that! Looks like many people had no idea it was initially her role.

First day, first movie, first scene and slap! Would he have done it to Kate?

R227 I don't think so. I can't explain why, it's just a feeling.

R227 Kate actually hit Michael Ontkean in "Making Love". But they worked hard on that scene with the director so it didn't just happen out of the blue.

R216 You are right! And yet I don't know. Of course it would be wonderful if she finally told her side of things. Because it would really bother me to see her life and career reduced to those troubled years. That would be awful. She may have come to terms now and live a good life without the nasty tabloids pestering her. Giving that up now? I imagine it would take a lot of energy and at 71 things are different than when she was a young energetic rising star. I also remember reading that even when she was young all the Charlie's Angels celebrity craziness was getting too much and she was relieved to finally be out and have a low profile for quite a while to finally come down. And even during her heyday she preferred to spend an evening with an intimate circle of friends rather than going to a big Hollywood party (although she did that occasionally). But dang I so want to read her memoirs but I guess it's not going to happen.

TGIF to all of Kate Jackson's DL fans!

I slept late this morning & missed Charlie’s Angels on Cozi.

One of you bitches must subscribe to Star Magazine so we can get the latest scoop from this week's issue!

R233 The cast of Cocoon 3.

R233 If those three women did a project together, I would watch the hell out of it. Caruso, not so much.

Kate was clearly caught off guard in the photo, but she looks good to me. I hope she doesn't go get fillers or more surgery. With hair and makeup done, she'd be camera ready. She should get a stylist she trusts if she wants to return to public life.

I wonder if there are more photos of her inside the magazine.

DL, report back!

R235 you defend Kate to no end. It's time you stop that now and face the truth.

No, it wasn't a bad camera angle on the picture.

Kate was on a 16 day meth binge and the paparazzi caught her out by the trash cans dumpster diving!

It is the only logical explanation for THAT photograph.

I'm with R235 Kate looks good! The next moment she may have smiled and it would have been a different pic. All she needs is some makeup and the hair done for a public appearance and she'd look great. Always considering her age. Most of us looked our best in our twenties and thirties. It's just a fact, it's life. So the mostly unflattering photos those rag sheets post of elderly celebs just living life are totally unfair. We still remember them from their glory days when they were young and beautiful. And the paparazzi and tabloids want to make us believe that something is wrong with those celebrities because they're older now and not their youthful self anymore? Oh come on now!

See what you did, M? I hope you're happy. Not that you were miscast as a selfish mother.

"Making Love" - Roberta Flack

This is such a beautiful song. It was a Top-20 hit in 1982. Written by Burt Bacharach, Bruce Roberts, and Carole Bayer Sager.

I looked at the Star Magazine on my town's digital library site. It was just one little blurb, no new info, and no new pictures, just the one from Farrah's funeral.

R240 See, that's how the fucking rag sheets work! They put a photo on the cover (preferably not a flattering one) and make you believe they have news about a big scandal! And when you buy that stuff. Nothing! Or old stuff or mostly lies!! I don't know when they took that pic of Kate but I bet it wasn't this year. I'm pretty sure they don't have a clue where she is. Definitely not in Hollywood anymore. Well done, Kate! The creeps can't find you haha! Kick their asses the way Sabrina did! Kick 'em hard!! You go girl!

R241 what is your diagnosis? What was the highest level of education you completed?

I love you, too. I really do.

Today’s ‘Angels’ episode is the one where Sabrina gets a bomb belt strapped around her waist!

What happened to Kate's eyes? I mean they were always cat like - loved her look back in the day - but now she looks Korean.

R244 The climax is cool. Sabrina running and jumping into a cold pond to save her life!

The "boom-boom belt", I remember that one! Fun Fact: Stanley Kamel (Dinsmore) appeared in all three of Kate's shows -- The Rookies, Charlie's Angels, and Scarecrow & Mrs. King.

I also remember it for Kris' fringed, suede halter top which I coveted.

R239 Beautiful and touching song by Roberta Flack. To me it will always be connected with the last scene of "Making Love". You can see and feel that Zack will always be Claire's big love even though she is married and has a child now and says she's happy. But that look on her face gives it all away. So subtle. That scene gets me every time I watch it.

I also love this video with the instrumental of that song. And photos telling the story.

When she played the nurse married to the cop on THE ROOKIES, her character got taken hostage on an almost weekly basis.

I think the writers for The Rookies had to find ways to get Jill in the story because she was popular with the viewers.

Loved the boom boom belt episode. The bad guy was kinda hot.

I found this really sweet Youtube comment just recently: "I met Kate Jackson years ago in Memphis. It was in a little club called Blues Alley. I was a young Marine at the time and Kate was at the height of her popularity. A more polite, generous and genuine lady I have never met. There was no press about, no throngs of fans. She was with a few friends enjoying a Saturday night on Beal Street. I approached, politely told her how much I enjoyed her work on TV, and turned to leave. Kate not only acknowledged the compliment, but introduced me to her guests and started a conversation. Not at all what one would expect, and I've never forgotten the cocktail we shared that night so long ago, in Blues Alley...<3"

Don't know if this has been posted before, but here's Kate with Cher on the Mike Douglas Show (Kate's sexy ex Andrew is there, too):

Cher and Kate should team up for a female buddy comedy!

Cher should reach out to Kate. I bet she could help her find a way forward.

They were cute as friends. Man, to hang out with Jane Fonda, Cher, Kate Jackson, and Dolly Parton back in the day. Or hell, right now. I'd die of joy.

I wonder if Cher and Kate are still friends. I know that Kate once mentioned that when she had open heart surgery in 1994 she was just waking up in the ICU. And no one can call you in the ICU. Well, Cher did!

When Cher and Kate Jackson were friends say 78-79, there was talk about a TV movie being written for them about two women who travel around the country in a jeep.

God help me that I remember this information.

R256 Thanks for remembering and sharing! Oh wow, a road movie with Kate and Cher. That would have been heaven.

I was kind obsessed with Kate Jackson as a kid. I loved her. Is that a sign of being gay?

R258 No, not necessarily. Millions of all sorts of people were/are obsessed with Kate Jackson. Gays, lesbians, straight men. And straight women who wanted to be like her. No wonder. The woman had that fabulous mix of beauty, talent and charisma.

Yay it's Kate Jackson Friday!! Here we go! Have you Kate admirers ever seen this awesome 1977 interview? Kate on the Mike Douglas show. Wow, she is so beautiful, charismatic and radiant in this. And big fun! Not sure what guy she talks about. Can't be Andrew Stevens yet. They only met some time in 1978. Mike Douglas also mentions Warren Beatty. Yeah, as we know Kate dated him for a while. Might as well have been around that time. She looks gorgeous! Great personality, too.

I was counting the minutes and looking for you with each refresh.

She was very beautiful - and I always loved her accent - that very slight Southern charm.

So true! I love her slight Southern accent, too. So charming.

It's Friday night, and the time is right...to talk about Kate Jackson!

Can't remember if this youtube montage was shared on this thread already or not. Watching it makes me want to cozy up and watch a CA marathon.

Ahh this is such a cool montage! I've watched it countless times. Great it's on Kate's thread now. It's obvious why Kate Jackson has always been the best of all Angels! There are many reasons. Let me just say: she was a fabulous actress and she had that special something that no one else had on the show: charisma!!

It's Friday! In 1982 Kate took part in a fashion show in NYC! Night of 100 Stars "Fashion Show". Interestingly she was the only Angel to attend. Lots of stars, old and young. Divas and tacky blondes etc. And then at 5:40 Kate Jackson! She looks stunning in that lovely dress in beautiful colors! Gorgeous!

Kate attended The American Academy of Dramatic Arts in NYC and she and Brad Davis were both in the Class of 1970!

Oh come on R266 Sticky Vicky Principal was way more fun in that clip then ol wooden Katie!

She loved those turtlenecks.

R268 You kidding me! All I see is her usual boring, doll-like Victoria Principal all dressed up in gold and glitter, trying hard to be sexy.

Rumor was that she was difficult on the set of Baby Boom.

R266, amazing; Kate looks a cross between I'm going to show up, hit my mark, smile and keep moving AND like she'd rather be anywhere else; I don't catch her in the curtain call but there are so many.

Interesting to see so many names I just don't know; some of the women REALLY had fun with the segment; some you can tell had modeling experience.

If you watch on youtube it takes you to the next one done another year and Jaclyn is in it; she looks stunning of course

So many women involved in this have ties to soaps daytime and prime time: Donna Mills, Joan Van Ark, Linda Gray, Gloria Loring, Deidre Hall, Susan Lucci, Arlene Dahl, Lisa Hartman, Priscilla Presley, Victoria Principal....

ah, the '80s; what an era!

R271 Oh the rumors and gossip about Kate. There are so many. And they mostly are…rumors and gossip. It's likely because Kate used to work hard and always wanted to do her best. And she expected that from the others, too. Not too much to ask for when you're in a show together and want it to be as good as possible.

Outside of her Angels cuts, which suited Sabrina and helped balance out the show, Kate looked best with her hair long, dark and sleek - totally brought out the best in her feline features - the mad 80s hair wasn't always wonderful

To add to r273's post, Jaclyn enters at around 5:25, just as another Jacqueline, decked out in a bat-winged, fishtailed, shoulder heavy, white satin contraption leaves!

R272 Most of those women were full of themselves. It's ridiculous. While Kate looked stunning in that lovely dress and jewelry. A warm and sweet smile, radiant. No showing off but humble. One of the reasons I love her!

I think in the curtain call Kate is the second one at 7:42.

R272 R277 I analyzed the whole thing. Our Kate again at 7:59! As for the rest: the diva and trying-to-be-sexy behavior and some wigs totally cracked me up!

Who's the kook at the 5:09 point, flailing around the stage and milking every second to make it all about HER?

Eva Gabor wasn't gonna wait for that bitch to get off stage. She was comin' down the stairs!

I pity the stage manager who had to cue those women.

Joan Collins was smart to do the intro; she didn't get lost in the pack.

I agree. Kate kept it simple, elegant; so many others were HERE I AM!

It's VERY unusual for Kate to do something like Night of 1000 Stars. Maybe she did it because she was friends with Cher at that time, who was featured.

it was for charity. maybe that's why?

I have to dig up that episode of CA tonight to watch where she and Boz go undercover to see Kelly (also undercover) at a home for unwed mothers; "I want that baby, John. See that I get it!"

The BAD GUYS cringed at what a bitch Kate was playing!

R282 Yeah, the episode is "Angel Baby". That really was a cool scene. Sabrina and Boz going undercover as a rich couple. Her smoking, asking for scotch and water, being very rude to the villains. And saying "John?!" Priceless.

And in the same episode another great scene. When Kris shoots the bad guy and then totally struggles because it's the first time she had to shoot someone. Sabrina gently takes the gun from her hands and comforts Kris. Beautiful and touching.

Two totally different scenes. And Kate is totally believable in both situations. Such an amazing actress!

I wish there had been a Sabrina Duncan spin-off instead of the awful Scarecrow and Mrs King.

R284 Aww yes, that would have been great!

Went down a rabbit hole with those Night of 100 Stars videos. I guess that was a time in my life, right after college, where I didn’t really watch TV. Fascinating and disturbing all in one.

When was the Night of 1000 stars? I don’t remember it

Kate also appeared in Night of 100 Stars II, in 1985. She appears at 5:36, but be warned, it's her least flattering haircut, ever. She got her money's worth on that one.

it's actually Night of 100 Stars in 1982 that she appears in at 5:36; I think she looks okay. This was the same year Making Love came out?

at 6:49 God Bless her, Nell Carter comes down the stairs wearing the draperies -- poor thing.

^Danielle Brisebois missing her cue and practically skating over Miss Cicily Tyson!

R289 I thought Kate looked lovely in this. Yes, it was the same year Making Love came out. It was the last year I thought her hair was still fine before the perms took over (from the 90s on she's had it straight again which is so much better). After that the 80s hairstyles kicked in full throttle OMG... R288 I agree that was her least flattering haircut in 1985. I never liked her hair during the Scarecrow and Mrs. King years. I didn't watch it much either. I never liked the 80s hair and fashion on anyone in general. Not then and not now. NEVER!

I loved the 70s, though! That's why I think Kate's hair was beautiful when she had it long in the first half of the 70s and then of course her Charlie's Angels era. That cool and playful hairstyle, the shiny hair.

R291, I agree.

I was happy Kate had a series again with Scarecrow & Mrs. King, but...no. It wasn't that good.

They had Sam Melville come on as Mr. King only when Kate went to embrace him she only thought of the Scarecrow...No! That was Jill and Mike Danko together again!

They ruewhened it.

[quote]R254 Cher should reach out to Kate. I bet she could help her find a way forward.

I’m sure Kate doesn’t answer the door.

Goodness, here we find ourselves almost at another Friday.

R289 Nell Carter and Kate Jackson were born a month apart and both grew up in Birmingham. They had divergent paths in many ways. I adore them both.

R293 Maybe she won't answer the door, but I bet she'd answer the phone or texts. Oh! I'd watch a reality show where Cher reunites with Kate Jackson and helps her get back on her feet.

Didn’t she do car commercials in the 90s?

R293 Wait, Kate has a door on the van she lives in down by the river?

Isn’t Cher known for ghosting her celebrity gal pals? M, Michele Pfeiffer, Kathy...

Don't know about Cher, but most celebs ghost.

They don't know how to be friends, mates, parents, children...they're too busy being their own best friend, raising themselves, parenting themselves, etc.

R294 I adore them, too. Some trolls who hate her keep telling the same old gossip and their "conclusions" to it. They want to see her struggling... But Kate is doing fine. I've read several posts of people who know her, who are in touch with her, who went out for dinner before Covid and who talked with her on the phone. Makes me happy.

She sure did, R295!

R299 I would like to read those posts. I saw someone say on Twitter that they had seen recent photos of Kate, but I don't think they're published anywhere.

Kate was a dried up, bitter cunt at 30.

Hey, Shelly, we told you you weren't welcome here.

Dammit Shelley, get your own thread. We can discuss you on the 31st of every month.

Indeed, R304,

Starting next month...!

In a 2012 interview, Jaclyn Smith said: "Kate and I improvised a lot together. She was very uh...(laughs) you know she did what she wanted…she would say ok we’re gonna change it, we’re gonna do... Kate could be on the show a little rebellious. Which was fun!! And I think that’s why she’s good! Because she would wanna…surprise us. And with surprise spontaneity and something new comes out."

That Lincoln commercial demonstrates what a great and distinctive speaking voice Kate has. She should have loads of offers to do voice work (and she wouldn’t even have to leave the house if she no longer wants to be seen!

Fuck, I should have been her agent!

-r284

here's the first scene of season 2.

Kelly and Sabrina are getting in each other's way as they bicker with Boz over their desire not to work with anyone else -- till they find out she's Jill's sister Kris!

Of course, it could have been in the script or the director's idea, OR it could have been Kate saying, 'Jaclyn, let's get in each other's way...walking back and forth behind David; it'll come off like we sure don't need a third when the two of us keep getting in each other's way.'

Cheryl Ladd was a hit from DAY ONE.

^GET THAT BITCH OUT OF MY THREAD.

Was there ever a crossover attempt to have Blake Carrington revealed as Charlie, a rich robber oil baron who had an interest in having female detective solve crime as a hobby away from his CEO duties?

I've read several posts of people who know her, who are in touch with her, who went out for dinner before Covid

R299 STOP with your fantasy stories. Eating out of the dumpster behind a Baja Fresh with a bunch of other Tweakers is hardly going out to dinner!

R311 You seem to have issues! Whatever it is it needs work! Get lost, troll!

R311 Hey, we told Shelley to get the hell off this thread, and now we're telling you, too, Tanya - white trash.

As a performer, let’s say Jackson lacked warmth.

R314 I thought that was her trademark, she is one cool cucumber.

Hollywood was put off by the hard sell spin she put on sex trafficking herself for roles.

She was always licking things lasciviously around producers, and it got old fast.

^ PLOT TWIST!

It's Saturday and the Shelley trolls keep coming back to our gal's popular Friday thread. They're desperate, trying very hard.... No surprise. Their threads are dried up like Shelley's hair. No more conversation. While our icon's thread has been thriving for months.

She was the Angel all the closeted gay boys said was the Angel they lusted after most.

R312 says the ultimate Kate Jackson TROLL.. Your little sound bites from Jaclyn Smith's Twitter are not enough to convince anyone that Kate is safe or sane.

Why didn't Baby Boom work? Actors far less talented than Kate have had long running sitcoms.

Don’t know, don’t care.

The trolls are getting really desperate now. It's quite interesting to watch.

R321 it’s very hard to make a movie work as a TV series (especially with a star most would consider irreplaceable). And when they do work it’s usually a not very memorable movie with disposable stars (ie Buffy). Yes, I know there are exceptions but the odds are about 1 in 100.

I remember watching a couple of episodes (they reran it in the summer) and it was hard to get through. Was impressed they still had Sam Wanamaker in it though — that was a nice touch.

I never saw the TV show BABY BOOM - but Jackson isn’t known to be a comedic actress.

The film version starred a gifted comedienne so shoving Jackson in there sounds like a bad start.

R325 yeah basically.

Hey, guys! I think I’m the only Angel who starred in a successful sitcom.

Enjoy the rest of your weekend 😘!

R316 Mmh great pic!

I think Kate Jackson was pretty good at comedy. Some of her most entertaining performances on Charlie's Angels were when Sabrina had an undercover assignment that was primarily comedic.

Scarecrow and Mrs King was light comedy. She was good in that. And it co-starred the delicious Bruce Boxleitner.

Nonetheless, her BABY BOOM bombed.

It was the beginning of the end.

She had NO tits!!! Ruined her career!!!!

She had NO tits!!! Ruined her career!!!!

You'll pardon me, but to have no tits is not enough!

R329 Absolutely! I loved the cool mix of drama and comedy on Charlie's Angels (seasons 1 and 2 and to some extent also 3). And I still do! And Kate Jackson was a pro at doing both genres! Even when the scripts weren't that gripping she still managed to make her sequences memorable and a lot of fun!! And I'm sure there was quite some improvising going on, too. Love that.

R330 Kate had been looking for a show like Scarecrow and Mrs. King because comedy was her favorite genre. She and Bruce Boxleitner did a great job and had wonderful chemistry! I'm not that familiar with it but watched a couple times because I missed seeing Kate on TV. Since I'm a child of the 70s it will always be Charlie's Angels for me.

All of Scarecrow and Mrs. King is available for purchase on DVD. 88 episodes. Wonder why they didn't push on through and do S5, or even a shortened season, and get to the magic 100 episode mark.

I have to admit that I was unaware that they are producing or selling DVDs anymore it’s been so long since I’ve seen one.

R336 SMK ended when Kate was diagnosed with breast cancer towards the end of season 4.

R337 We here in the DL still love a DVD.

We are old timey like that!

We also know old Katie is a bipolar, drug addicted,nightmare on any set. And that's why her career went straight down the shitter!

R338 That's right. At first Kate still tried to work on the show during radiation. But eventually her treatments resulted in the reduction of her character and led to alterations that ultimately affected the show in an unfortunate way. The series was finally canceled. In 1989 another mammogram indicated residual breast cancer that the previous operation had missed. In 1994 she was diagnosed with an atrial septal defect (ASD), a tiny hole in her heart. She underwent open heart surgery to correct the defect. She was born with ASD. Nowadays this usually gets detected and corrected in little babies.

At least it wasn’t ASS CANCER, like that whore Jill M.

It's Friday night, you drunken whores!

I wonder what Sabrina Duncan would be doing on a night like this?

Backgammon and 🍷, r342.

I know what she's doing, and so do you!

Delete! Delete! Delete! Can’t unsee!

Love Kate = Love Her Pussy

Crate Jackson is from the seventies, she has a beaver NOT a pussy!

I’m not going to post it here, but if you google “kate Jackson nude” you can see that a little waxing would not have been out of order. (It’s the one in a silver chair with red brocade, if you dare.)

I wonder if her shunning personal grooming turned off studio bigwigs, and that’s why her career soured?

Her fucking tit ruined my residuals!

R347 When was the great change over from beaver to pussy, and why was there not harder lobbying by the beaver contingent to stay in the game?

I’m thankful for the change to pussy, as boybeaver just does not work!

there were episodes of the Rookies win which Kate really broke my heart;

Jill and Mike go out to dinner for their anniversary and they ask for the same table they had before; the couple switches with them; then some nut comes in with a gun and Jill takes a bullet in the back, causing her to miscarry; Mike didn't know till the doctor told him, then he goes in to see her and it's heartbreaking.

There was at least one hostage situation where she's a nurse in a prison and the inmates take over the prison. As a kid, I was thrilled to read she was headlining another Spelling series with two Partridge Family guest stars.

Kate could act; beauty, it's been said, needs no resume. That was Jaclyn and Farrah. Farrah played Jill as if she'd stumbled into working as a private eye because she thought it was a casting call for a toothpaste commercial; never believable as any of her undercover characters and thought ever crook she met could be disarmed by her smiling and tossing her hair side to side. Granted, some of them could.

^^ oh shut the fuck up, for GOD’S sake!

R353 Psst! Hey, you seem miserable. And I want you to feel better. You have posted a lot of crap on this thread, along with a few other jealous cunts. So here's my suggestion: why don't you create a Shelley Hack thread! I mean one that really works. What was that? It won't work? Yeah I know but why don't you just give it a try?

Why don’t YOU go suck on Jackson’s one remaining tit?!

You’re still not feeling better. Don’t you worry. Try this: You’re gonna close your eyes, now breathe in slowly through your nose and breathe out slowly through your mouth. And remove ALL thoughts from your mind. Keep going…. That a boy! Trust me. I have tried it myself. It does work.

"I also read that she had been on vacation at Martha's Vineyard with her son, and decided to extend their stay. Their original plane tickets to return home were on American Airlines Flight 11, which was hijacked and crashed into the North Tower of the WTC."

Someone posted this a couple weeks ago. I wonder if it is true? If so, this is incredible. I wonder how Kate feels about it now. That goes for anyone who rebooked or canceled one of those flights! And the moment when you see it in the news...

While Kate is not known as a comedienne, I found her to have great facial expressions and comic timing.

I wish she had pursued more comedy.

She brought comedy, warmth, and depth to CA in a way the other actresses did not.

DL, it's Friday, my partner fell asleep, and I want a warm cup of tea and Kate Jackson related conversation.

Please be so kind as to indulge me.

Photoshopped nudes are creepy.

Maybe she and Andrew made a sex tape, and he'll leak it and we'll get to see his fit body.

Andy sure seems to miss his times with Kate when he still posts pics on his Instagram.

[quote]R361 Photoshopped nudes are creepy.

Why do you think they’re photoshopped? Kate was a liberated lady.

When they were still in love.

I’m still heartbroken it didn’t work out!

Was she mad his boobs were bigger than hers?

"She brought comedy, warmth, and depth to CA in a way the other actresses did not." Very true!!

R358 Thanks for posting this vid. Great fun! And it does really showcase Kate Jackson's excellent acting skills! Sometimes her facial expressions are subtle but you can exactly see how Sabrina feels. Love it. There are countless cool scenes with her. Some CA episodes are lame for the bad scripts. And yet Kate manages to make them worth watching. And there are the really good episodes.

There is this terrific seven minute sequence with Kate in "Angels on Ice" that has it all: suspense, action and humor. Sabrina sneeks into an apartment to to do some investigation. She's oblivious of a villain in a gorilla mask, hiding in the bathroom. He attacks her, she desperately battles him only to get thrown into a closet. She manages to get out and then jumps from the balcony (she did a lot of her own stunts) onto a truck and here comes the fun part: she „borrows" the truck from an elderly couple to pursue the attacker but crashes right into a police car… Sabrina then has to explain to the cops why she doesn’t have her driver's license with her (it’s in her purse at the apartment), why she carries a gun and if this is her truck (no she borrowed... well actually stole it...). The cops don’t believe her she is a private detective and arrest her. Back at the office we learn that the Kelly, Kris and Bosley had to bail her out and they wonder what Charlie is going to say.

I could watch this over and over. Only Kate could pull this off. Very cool.

^ You terrify me.

It’s always disarming when this thread pops up early, it’s hard enough keeping track of what day of the week it is during this pandemic and then panicking it’s already Friday when it’s not is quite upsetting.

what r369 said, stop coming early!

Premature KateJackulation

It’s already after 12 PM EST, you are burning daylight not getting this thread moving already.

Here's Kate on "Celebrity Bowling!"

So young, so cute.

Three decades later Kate and Edward did the movie "No Regrets". It looked like they still have wonderful chemistry. Sadly Edward Albert passed away only two years later of lung cancer. I bet it was difficult for Kate. Only four weeks after she appeared with Farrah and Jaclyn at the Emmys to pay tribute to Aaron Spelling.

R371 Yours is now my all-time favorite DL post.

"Charlie's Angels Pilot Episode | Available for a limited time!" on the Utube

I love this opening (and of course all regular openings CA season 1 to 3). The 70s groove is very cool. The Angels are gorgeous and of course Farrah and Jaclyn doing skimpy while Kate owns the screen with her beauty and her charisma!

Thank goodness it's Friday. So everything's gonna be okay. Here's Kate with her former The Rookies buddies George Sanford Brown, Michael Ontkean and Sam Melville. This could be around 1979. They truly were a hot cast!

I wonder if this "Rookies" play set was the first Kate toy appearance?

First, but not last...

Never seen the Rookies play set. How cool is that!

can someone please knock on the door of Kate Jackson's van and tell her to vote?

Kate and Michael on the Rookies.

R384 Don’t leave us hanging! Was the receipt for tokens at the gay bookstore or what?

Kate and Ricky Schroeder (in serious mode) are so good in the 1990 TV film THE STRANGER WITHIN, with a script by playwright John Pielmeier, who wrote AGNES OF GOD. It could've been a Davis, Crawford, Hayward, etc. vehicle back in the day with its flashbacks and crazy plot turns.

Kate is earnest and hardhitting and bangs the dialogue hard so even we all get the point.

Lol, on first read R386 I mistook that “bangs” for a comment about her hairstyle!

Rare footage! Kate accepted an award on behalf of Farrah who was unable to attend. I think this was around 2007 or 2008. I imagine this wasn't easy for Kate. Touching. Best friends.

^^^I've never seen that clip. Kate looks great.

Damn, only a few hours left and no word from the greatest KJ fan today.

[Quote] Kate is earnest and hardhitting and bangs the dialogue hard so even we all get the point.

This sentence needs to go back to the drawing board.

Thank the fuck it’s Kate Friday!

She crazy

Has anyone knocked on the door of Kate Jackson's van and offered her a covid test?

Is this her van?

I agree, r391. That sentence looks like something Beamish would say.

It's Friday, and the world is chaos. Gather 'round, and imagine a simpler time, when Satan's School for Girls was a safe haven for devilish future Angels, and a young man could go for a free wheeling ride to craft services with a young Kate Jackson.

"The next few minutes became one of those adolescent experiences seared into my brain. It turned out Kate liked driving that golf cart. And liked driving it fast. I recall going up on two wheels at one point while rounding a turn. While I must have been white as a sheet, I blithely laughed along with her—figuring if I was going to die, it would be a memorable death. She was, after all, Kate Jackson."

I was checking out my On Demand menu for Kate’s availability and in addition to Charlie’s Angels, there’s 1200 episodes of Dark Shadows, Satan’s School for Girls, four seasons of ‘Scarecrow’ available for purchase and one episode of The Rookies.

Has Kate ever played a lesbian?

No, never.

It’s been a Tanya Roberts shit of a week. TGIKF!!!

She crazy.

She still crazy.

R397 Great article! Kate was very approachable and a sweetheart. Even at the height of her fame according to people who have met her like that young guy who wrote the article.

Rona Looks At on Amazon Prime now has an episode with a Kate interview. Cindy Williams, Toni Tennille, and Penny Marshall are also interviewed in the episode.

Rona Barrett is such a sob sister, she's laughable and disgusting at the same time, but Kate does give a thoughtful interview. Check it out, fans.

A wonderful interview! Rona asking some very personal questions and Kate being very honest. She looked stunning.

Where are you it’s 12:34 PM EST !

I've got my coffee. Let's start talking.

R404 The most intimate and insightful interview with Kate ever. Awesome! But why does Penny Marshall get to talk so much?? Boring! I just want to hear Kate and no one else!

She's an old whore

Did she ever work in the legitimate theater?

She did do a production of Key Exchange in L.A. in 1981, but I have never heard about doing any other theatre.

She and Andrew Stevens did "Love Letters" in Pacoima. Kate said it was her favourite memory of Andrew - 10 foot away from her throughout.

Kate also did "Love Letters" with Charles Kimbrough of Murphy Brown.

I thought someone here had stories regarding Ms Jackson and Liza being intimately involved.

Has that play love letters ever been done by same sex couples or are there penis and vagina references that make it need to be male and female?

Kate and Andrew during a break on the Charlie's Angels set in Vail, CO.

Great Youtube comment: "In 1983 my brother was paralyzed in a car accident and was placed in a rehabilitation hospital. Every Christmas the hospital would get a visit from a bunch of television and movie stars. Kate Jackson was there and made my brother’s day. I’ll never forget her kindness."

I just watched her the other day in "Night of Dark Shadows". Memorable for the campy Grayson Hall.

R148 Is Grayson Hall an actor or a location?

R419 A location. It is adjacent to Veronica Lake.

R420 Oh, then I guess it has fabulous hair!

Are we really going to post this shit every Friday, ad nauseam, until the thread fills-up and it finally goes away? Then we can work on the equally insipid Monday moo. For Fuck Sake people, really?.

Someone obviously needs to be hugged and kissed......

Not going to say who, but....

Breaking: Kate was spotted at the Dollar Tree in Monrovia using EBT!

Where did you hear that?

Poor Kate.

I haven't been to Grayson Hall in ages. We used to go every summer when I was a child.

Another lovely Friday with my DL and Ms Jackson.

Baby Boom

Jackson has an air of the patrician south about her, is it possible that her ancestors came from there and owned slaves? Has she been on any of those finding your roots shows?

1976

R430 Oh god, that looks like something that was done by the best student artist at the high school in honor of Miss Jackson coming to town to cut the ribbon on the new Piggly Wiggly.

"Lucy Kate Jackson was born on October 29, 1948, in Birmingham, Jefferson County, to Hogan, the wealthy president of a building-supply company, and Ruth Jackson; she has one sibling. Jackson attended private schools in Birmingham, graduating in 1966. "

Kate's ancestors are mostly from England with a few from Scotland, Wales and Ireland, both paternal and maternal ancestors. They arrived as early as in the 17th and 18th Century most of them in Virginia. Her paternal grandfather was born in Georgia and came to Alabama.

There is one distant Swedish ancestor (maternal). who as a widow, became the Royal Housekeeper to Queen Hedwig Elinora at Grysholm Castle. Her grave is at Grysholm Castle in Stockholm. She lived in the 17th Century.

No reply from R424. No source, nada... As expected. It would be a little difficult to spot someone who is wearing a mask and with social distancing, too. So much for "Breaking".

What's for dinner...

Anyway, where and when in the hell is her most recent interview or appearance of any kind???

I watched that Rona interview (I’ve never watched a full one before anywhere)... and what the fuck?

She interviews 4 people and just jumps around, shows a 30 second clip of one, and then cuts to the next? Who organizes a special like that? You don’t even remotely get to know a person that way.

No wonder Barbara eclipsed her.

I hear ya R435 But I can do without lies and gossip. So no news is better. Of course an interview would be wonderful. They are so desperate they even tried to approach her sister. But of course her sis wouldn't have it.

Kicking off TGIKJF early because it's October 29, and Kate Jackson's birthday. I hope wherever she is, she enjoys the day.

It's Friday and Kate Jackson? Look, she came over to my dressing room when I was in menopause and offered to finger me slowly but I said no. I was more interested in knowing another woman and what another woman had to give to another woman at my particular age at that time.

What I was able to do was lift up her petticoats and lick her delicate rosebud while my husband Sam plugged me in my honey canal and gave new storylines. It didn't help because the show was still canceled, but we got a movie out of it and I got to smell her bush.

Happy 72nd Birthday Kate!

To all IFSTMAKJ thread regulars, be safe this Halloween and wear your mask.

Happy Birthday to my favorite Angel, Kate Jackson!

Will Kate venture outside her home on Saturday night?

Kate needs to move to that industry created elder care community for actors. She would probably have a great life there and be social and revered by others.

Here's to our birthday girl, Kate Jackson!

R440 Wishing you a fun and safe Halloween!

I'm envious of that Kate Jackson costume. I want to get drunk and wear it everywhere.

I wanna get drunk and be Farrah.

So, this was on yesterday...on her birthday! I didn't watch it...

Happy to be pretty certain that Kate voted for Biden, not like those bitches Cheryl Ladd and Jaclyn Smith who voted for Trump (and were cowardly silent about it). Kate for President!

I agree. Kate definitely voted for Joe Biden. And the Republicans Smith and Ladd certainly voted for Trump. Ladd being a Right-Winger and she has met Trump and played in one of his golf's tournaments...

I hope she could see her ballot.

Kate, Shelley - Biden

Jaclyn, Cheryl - Trump

Tanya - Kanye

100% Kate voted for Biden.

She did nothing for this election.

Fuck her and her grubby hoarder ways.

Joe Biden is elected President of the United States!!! Kamala Harris is elected Vice President!! The first woman and the first person of color!! Life is wonderful :-) Thanks Kate for doing the right thing! We knew you would!

Kate is ready and so am I!!

The Kate Jackson troll is annoying. Acting like she's out and about in the world and voting. Get real. She's holed up in a hoarder hell, hasn't even left the house in 10 years!

^^^ Trump supporter meltdown

Good morning Angels, for the record: R455 and R424 is the same troll!! Trying to spread gossip and lies but contradicting himself...!

Here's a family snap of Kate with her cousin Michael.

Here's a short video of Kate talking about Farrah.

TGIKJF!

Here's a Hollywood Squares episode where Kate throws a little shade at Victoria Principal (around the 13:30 mark).

Great photo of Kate and Michael!

From social media: "I was standing in front of the Bruin Theater in Westwood waiting for friends when a limo pulled up. I was maybe five feet from the curb when the driver opened the car door and out steps Kate Jackson. We made eye contact and I was uncharacteristically gobsmacked. I grew up in and around celebrities my whole life so normally I wouldn’t have been phased but holy cow! Then some dude got out of the car and took Kate by her arm and turned her away. As Kate walked away she turned her head to reveal her profile and with her free arm by her side she cupped her hand and gave me an upside down wave. I still get chills thinking about that first look."

Can we just post ANYTHING to fill this up to 600 comments and make it go the fuck away?

^ the Kate Jackson troll that denies the Kate has serious mental and drug problems will never let this die!

R464 I'm truly worried about you, gurl. You keep contradicting yourself. You seem confused. Let me help you. Why don't you provide real facts instead of cheap old gossip. And since this thread seems to make you feel utterly miserable why don't you choose threads you can truly enjoy? You know, educational stuff such as Jaclyn Smith, Jocelyn Wildenstein, Melania.

With Lillian Gish

Here's our Kate with fellow heterosexuals Dolly Parton and Cher, gettin' their hairs did.

Just a couple of gals out on the town lookin' for peen!

She bearded for eddie albert jnr. Lesbian. Edie albert from green acres was gay too. Gay is genetic

I don't think Eddie was a bearding situation. They looked genuinely in love, and she seemed to break down a bit after their breakup.

You can see how painfully thin she was in the CA pilot. I read an interview from when they started filming season 1, and she talked about what a difficult time it was after they broke up. She said she lost her way, and stress caused her to lose too much weight.

There was also a lot of sentimentality when they got together to film "No Regrets," and they made reflected on the past during filming.

Of course I could be wrong, and I don't doubt she bearded for that dermatologist and some others, but I think Eddie was genuine.

R470 Thanks for the insight! I agree. Edward Albert may have been Kate's biggest love. In the film "No Regrets" you definitely can see it's not just two actors. There still seems to be a deeper connection.

Who was the dermatologist??

Arnold Klein, who was Michael Jackson's preferred pill-prescriber (and also the employer of the mother of Michael's kids).

Here's a pic of the two of them.

Girl Friday

Bob Hope's Comedy Christmas Special with Kate Jackson, 1976

Poor Kate. There's only so much you can do with that Bob Hope material.

I met her at a signing years ago, and she is stunning in person, but absolutely fragile as a humming bird.

It's OK to let some carbs in, Katie.

R477 I actually thought it was quite entertaining and funny. Kate looked so gorgeous and was cute in her interaction with Bob Hope. They both were fun.

R478 When was that? And did you get to talk to Katie?

Friday night, the SCOTUS rejected Trump's Texan trickery, and we can all enjoy a Charlie's Angels "Lady Killer" reaction video from RetroQTV.

I think he's cute.

R478 It was in the early 2000's. I did get to speak with her, and she signed some memorabilia.

It was a wonderful experience. She took a good amount of time with each fan, and did a great job smiling and laughing through through the event. She made me feel like mine wasn't the 50th lunch box she signed that day, and that my trading cards were unique.

That must be acting, lol.

I'm grateful to have a photo of us together. We put our arms around each other when we posed, and again I must say that she felt smaller and more fragile than I expected. I was afraid I could easily break her.

I do wish she would make some sort of public outreach, just to say she's OK and enjoying life. I miss her work.

Jaclyn Smith’s chat on Twitter December 11, 2020

A guy from Venezuela: “Hello Jaclyn, a question do you have contact with Kate Jackson ????. Regards #AskJaclyn”

Jaclyn: “Absolutely! We are still good friends!!”

Jaclyn’s “we’re still good friends” is on automatic and gets more Twitter play than “I had a shelter kitten, his name was Bootsie Gumdrops”.

Gee that's interesting... People ask Jaclyn about Kate all the time. She can't respond to each and every question. Then how come that "automatic" doesn't seem to work? Brad, fix it!

Jackie's Kate talk is canned. It's obvious.

Kate has zero time to waste on MAGAt Jaclyn.

R487 because Katie J is a hermit living without a cell phone in a Van down by the river!

At least she's not serving time.

Kate posts on social media. Of course not in a Jaclyn-here-I-am kind of way. Just occasionally. Takes a lot of Sabrina smarts to find it.

This thread needs a little seasonal cheer, here’s a lovely Christmas tide tableau of the angel dolls around the tree. Kate’s pose is very dynamic and shows off the English riding boots quite well.

Jaclyn Smith is on Cameo now. Can Kate be far behind? She could do it from home -- her son can film -- and she needs the $$$.

[quote] Kate posts on social media. Of course not in a Jaclyn-here-I-am kind of way. Just occasionally. Takes a lot of Sabrina smarts to find it.

Did the “Cheryl’s pussy stinks” start with her?

Kate's also not a MAGA asshole like Ricky Schroder.

She should have actually hit him in the head while filming "The Stranger Within."

I do love the Kate Jackson troll who sleuths the Internet day-and-night to find kates cryptic social media posts!

R490 Awesome! But yeah, better not to share anything on here. Too many trolls, haters.

Why on earth would Jaclyn do Cameo? She's worth over 100 million, plus her husband's money too.

R496 I love Kate Jackson. Its you and your pseudo knowledge of EVERYTHING Kate Jackson that's unsavoury.

R496 I know.

R498 Interesting, so you love Kate Jackson. Then show your love! Here’s how: Cheer up, stop whining, stop contradicting yourself when spreading lies about her or better yet, stop posting disrespectful trash about Kate based solely on your weird fantasies. That’s it. It’s easy. And you're going to feel better.

It's the first Kate Jackson Friday of 2021!

Happy New Year, my dear DLers. May the year ahead bring us delight and satisfaction.

Happy Friday and Happy New Year!

I can't believe this thread is still going about this basic bitch!

We're even more fabulously unbasic in COLOR.

[quote]I wish there had been a Sabrina Duncan spin-off instead of the awful Scarecrow and Mrs King.

Why not both?

Oh good, this is still going on. I was afraid that with the recent DLers death that maybe the OP was one of them. Kate, happy new year!

Has Kate ever had a UTI?

Kate's UT is made of stainless steel and is impervious to infection.

Rare photo of Kate and Tanya, AND the stan story behind it.

"Kate was very kind, and very feminine, which surprised me for some reason. She spoke of her son, and having to miss his ball-game to be there. It was her first convention, and she seemed more reserved about the whole experience than Tanya, who had been to a few conventions at this point."

Kate and her fellow 70s TV stars

Sabrina's not coming in to work tomorrow.

Beat it lez

Who played "Sabrina" in Counterfeit Angels?

I liked those Kmart ads she did.

R509 Kate looks gorgeous!

Here's Kate with hot-as-balls Nick Nolte. Kate dated EVERYONE!!

Here's Kate cradle-robbing John-boy himself, Richard Thomas. This is probably about as provocatively as she ever dressed.

Oops, here's the pic.

Here's Kate at Studio 54 with Dustin Hoffman. Kate trekked out to NYC in the summer of '78 to meet with Dustin about the role in Kramer vs Kramer.

Dammit, my eldergayness is on full display, here. Here's the pic.

In the mid-'80s, Kate dated Richard Cohen who went on to marry Meredith Vierra.

Kate dated Warren Beatty (who didn't) and looks pretty pleased with herself for landing him.

In overalls for SNL with Belushi.

Once again we find ourselves at another Friday night.

This lovely tribute video has many candid photos from the days of Dark Shadows. There were a few I hadn't seen before, which was a nice surprise.

TGIF, my fellow Kate fans!

R521 Kate did date Warren Beatty but this photo is fake. In this interview R260 Kate talks about that pic and says she had her arm linked in somebody elses arm, not Warren's. Interestingly there is no photo of the two. They managed to date secretly. Okay, Warren was a pro...

Nice collection of her dates. Kate sure was a heavy dater in the 70s. But when it comes to the tabloids we know that a lot of it is not true. As Kate states in the Mike Douglas interview R260 "I'd be a dead woman if it was true". That interview was a lot of fun.

Time for Kate

R523 Truly a lovely tribute to the amazing and stunning Kate Jackson!

Thanks, R526, I hate it.

She sucked!

R529 Shelley, you're fired!

Ain't no Wella Balsam

You go girl!

In an effort to tie this all together, what was Kate’s Chinese zodiac sign? I’m guessing tiger?

I can't drive this!

Another Friday night, and I'm here to say thank you for everyone who has shared their Kate Jackson thoughts over the last year.

You're good eggs.

R532, she's better in that commercial than Farrah was in Somebody Killed Her Husband and Saturn 3.

Should Kate Jackson be short of funds and decide to do a Cameo she could easily charge $500 per response and net over a million dollars in less than a year. I cannot think of anyone in more demand. Now is she at least capable of working from home a little?

Now you can make your very own Pinto!

The coolest car on the show!!!

Kate and her flatty patties:

"A really big, beautiful Hideaway House!"

"And you can turn it to face the sun."

R540 Gorgeous Kate on the set of "Angels in Paradise". What a babe!

I just saw the Brazilian actress Florinda Balkan in an old movie in which she looked extraordinarily like Kate,

Wow R534 by that time she'd had the face lift that really changed the shape of her eyes. Cheryl had a super tight one too but it was a little better.

TGIF my fellow Kate Jackson fans!

R492 I didn't realize Jaclyn was on Cameo now. Every time she does Q&As on Twitter several people ask about Kate. Now I'm tempted to pay for a Jaclyn Smith Cameo to have her talk about Ms Jackson rather than herself.

Kate could definitely make money doing Cameos. Some Hollywood gays should go help her set it up. I would pay to be able to do her hair/makeup/wardrobe.

[quote]R543 I just saw the Brazilian actress Florinda Balkan in an old movie in which she looked extraordinarily like Kate,

It’s epically fitting that Balkan was a dyke. (She was in a 20 year relationship with producer Contessa Marina Cicogna.)

Another cool shot of the hottest and most charismatic angel! Kate Jackson on the set in Hawaii.

Kate is incapable of doing Cameo. She is a hoarder and only has a flip phone.

These are just facts.

Is she the one who sells clothes and wigs at Sears?

Jaclyn Smith had a line at Kmart, R549.

And I wanted that, R541, but didn't get it because my parents didn't care about me living my best life.

That's a rude and insensitive remark by the freaking idiot @ R540, considering the fact that Jackson had surgery TWICE for breast cancer.

Kate herself is the rude and insensitive one.

Ask Cheryl Ladd. Ask Nolan Miller.

R552 Trying to justify your embarrassing and rude remark with what Ms. C. Ladd and Mr. N. Miller said? Surely two reliable sources….when it comes to gossip.

Let's see. First of all Mr. Nolan Miller, costume designer: Watching him in interviews I see a very uptight diva. He hated Jackson simply because she dared to stand up to him. Her "crime"? She didn’t want to wear glamorous stuff all the time. Kate was not much interested in fashion but wanted to ACT (it was a detective show she had created and not Dynasty). Sometimes Jackson would wear glamorous outfits but she preferred casual stuff which is fitting for a private eye (she was the only actress that added some depth to the show, no glam required for that). Well, Miller did not take nicely to that. A woman saying "no" in the 70s? Had it been a man no problem. But a woman? How dare she?... Of course Kate was right. She stood her ground. So Miller trashed Kate in a very very nasty way on several occasions when he talked to the media, the tabloids!

Then he begged Spelling to PLLLEEEASE hire Shelley Hack, not because she was an actress (she wasn't) but simply because she was a model and oh so elegant, the „Charlie Girl“. And here it comes. Quote Nolan Miller on Shelley Hack: „Two weeks, she turned into the bitch of the century, she could get so nasty and so bitchy to everybody that we all hated her within a month, and then we wanted to get rid of her you know... Like, somebody get rid of this bitch, so she didn’t last long and we were all happy.“ Sounds like a decent, trustworthy and stable man, doesn’t he… He hated Kate AND Shelley. What a coincidence... And he trashed them publicly! So much for diva No. 1 (to be continued)

No need to continue. Really.

Miller detested Jackson because she refused to be fitted for her clothes, not because of the styles she preferred. Also because she became insanely rude.

Miller comes across as the consummate professional:

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R553 You are a delusional Kate Jackson troll. You live in a fantasy that Kate is in stable mental health and capable of things like cameo or going to autograph signings or appearing on film. The truth is none of this is possible because Kate Jackson is in a mire of drugs and mental illness. It seems her rage which has been so well documented on many sets, has literally consumed her.

why did Nolan Miller say Kate had "a scrawny neck", no wonder she always wanted to wear turtlenecks

Besides the fact that Nolan hated Kate and Shelley he also didn’t like Farrah’s poster saying it was just another poster. Poor high-strung guy was so unhappy and frustrated.

Now part 2 of R553 Ms. Ladd was known to be a nightmare on the set. She did not get along with any of her female co-stars, except for Jaclyn Smith. She did befriend Smith mainly out of fear of being branded a problem worker. Ladd created a very toxic work environment behind the scenes, also thanks to her dalliance with Ed Lakso. Crew members would later reveal personality clashes between Ladd and the rest of the CA actresses and across many Hollywood productions, even before this show. In a repeat pattern throughout her career, Ladd formed dalliances with producers. Having previously worked with her and well aware of how Ladd operated, Kate Jackson strongly disliked her. She was on to Ladd. However, Jackson remained a professional and nothing ever transpired on-camera. Later, Ladd's behind-the-scenes hostile behavior would be the catalyst for Shelley Hack's departure from the series. To Ladd's dismay, a much more buxom actress was hired as the 6th--and final—angel. Cheryl is also on record saying she never warmed up to Farrah Fawcett, citing not knowing her due to her few appearances. Farrah never warmed up to Cheryl either and that is certainly no surprise.

R559 Not only are you the most twisted of Kate Jackson trolls, now you are making up some MAJOR BS about Cheryl Ladd.

R559 Cheryl's behavior and rudeness on the set is nothing new. She lacked personality and warmth but that didn't seem to be a problem as long as she donned a bikini and yeah, the rest was handled behind the scenes. With a "little" help from a writer, producers etc. And she knew exactly how to make use of her "poor me" routine when she talked to journalists.

Bri taking on the bad guys by embracing mime.

Kate was fun under cover.

Snatching a wig

You have to wonder why her career went straight down the shitter.

Golden Intrigue: Captivating Fashions for Charlie's Adventurous Ladies

A deleted scene

Catty Kate is fun in this scene from Sweet Deception (1996) which she's barely in. In casethelink doesn't start at the right spot, you can find it at 07:14. Kate should have played more villains.

^^^She has another good, short scene at 08:34.

^Barely in^ because once again she was a mess, causing trouble on the set

Always enjoyed her. Saw her on a Match Game '74 rerun the other day, and she was stunningly beautiful.

The same for every Friday, OP - she's STILL a bi-polar mediocre actress.

That ain't gonna change no matter how many Friday's pass us by.

R571 what's the point of coming on here and trying to make people feel badly about a thing or person they enjoy? Is it that you're miserable, and you want to bring everyone down by making them feel badly for liking something or someone you don't like? You just feel the need to set them straight on an actress from the '70s?

Fucking pathetic.

Closer Weekly has a where are they now issue out, and it claims to update us on Kate, but it uses and old photo and has no new information. They've done the same thing for Liza's 75th--promising the scoop on the cover and then a vague, short article inside with old photos. The videos Liza posted gave more info.

One of my favorite Kate TV moments.

A Kidnapping In the Family is worth a view, if only for its camp value and convoluted plotline: Tracey Gold is a tramp who dresses like Poison Ivy and is also a Satanist. Kate is the kind-hearted grandmother who turns out to be not so great after all.

Continue to talk to yourself Kate Jackson troll. So we can shut this thread and your insane rambling down at 600.

Meanwhile well liked by CA Cast and crew alike, Cheryl Ladd continues to book projects.

Notoriously troublesome Kate?

Still an angry isolated addict living in a van down by the river.

Maybe Datalounge should book Kate for a speaking engagement and VIP Meet & Greet.

And what the hell is the "Financially Strong America Corporation" (under the "Read More" section?

R576 Do you have a door on the van you live in down by the river? Your anger issues seem out of control. You do need help.

Here's our favorite Angel Sabrina Duncan in a romantic and dramatic role. A clip from the Season 2 episode "Angel in Love". Kate Jackson's masterpiece as an Angel. She's terrific!

R579 Wow! Kate Jackson looks so gorgeous and she was so good in this! She always was of course. But this performance was outstanding. Kate got an Emmy nom for Lead Actress in a Drama Series for this one. And another one for "Target: Angels". Goes to show why she was irreplaceable as an Angel. She was and will always be the best Angel!

Look at that face! They did our girl wrong.

They did. That doesn't look anything like Sabrina! She's so stunningly beautiful and they create this. Ridiculous. All about money.

^^^They didn't have the rights to the likenesses of the actresses, so the dolls (there is also a Kris doll, though oddly not a Kelly) were created with different faces.

I see. But then why create dolls that do not look like the angels in the first place....for the money of course.

On to something really nice now! On his visit to the US in 1977 Prince Charles was also in Hollywood and insisted on meeting the Angels! Fun photo: Prince Charles shares a joke with Kate Jackson and Jaclyn Smith.

Kelly Garrett!

Japanese food with Liza & Mark Gero, 1981.

This is for the Cheryl Ladd troll, the Shelley Hack troll and any troll who have come here trying to hijack this thread making up some MAJOR BS about DL fave Kate Jackson. Well, now is the time to clear things up. Did you know that there is a Datalounger who actually worked on the Charlie’s Angels set? Not a big wig like Spelling, Goldberg, Ladd supporter Lakso or stressed out Miller. No, it’s someone who was never interviewed because he was a no-name but he witnessed some stuff when Kate, Farrah, Jaclyn and a certain Cheryl were there.

In a 2009 thread he simply couldn’t take it any longer, when some sick trolls tried to bash and insult Kate in the same way they did here! He couldn't take it because he knew and had witnessed what had really happened. So he cleared things up! This is an excerpt (read his whole reply 166 in the thread "Ladd Still Hurt About Charlie's Angeles Reunion Snub".

"Kate didn't hate Cheryl because she replaced Farrah. That's nonsense. Cheryl is the bitch- not Kate. I worked on Charlie's Angels the first couple of seasons. What a fucking madhouse. But Kate was very nice to people, including the people working on the set who weren't "stars". People liked her. She was more down to Earth in many ways.

Farrah was very sweet, and she had a great sense of humor in the sense that she'd laugh at everyone's jokes (even when they were rather lame. :)) She was beautiful, but I always remember her as being rather petite (which is not really borne out by the videos i see of her). I remember her that way though. I don't think she was very tall.

That set was fucking crazy.There was so much activity all the time, it drove me crazy. Hair and make-up (people) were always flying around between takes, and it drove Kate crazy frankly. :) I don't think Jackie was too crazy about it either. Farrah was always such a damn good sport, she never seemed to mind. I never met an actress who was so agreeably nice all the time. It got annoying sometimes. :) But the other girls loved her.

Cheryl was a fucking nuisance from day one. She seemed nice enough at first, but that fucking husband of hers was always showing up on set "monitoring" her treatment. He worked in the biz, if I remember correctly, and I think his dad had been a movie star from the great old days. I don't remember who. What an asshole! And for someone who was plucked from obscurity she acted like her shit didn't stink. She ordered people around like she was the Queen of Sheba. I remember her ordering someone to get her a soft drink once, and the poor girl brought her the wrong one. you would've thought the girl had killed her dog, the way that Ladd carried on. I know that Kate hated her for that shit. Kate was a pro-she never treated people like that. There was a rumor going around the set once that Kate and Jackie called her "the witch" behind her back, and that wouldn't surprise me. She was not a nice person.

Plus, Ladd and her husband were BIG time Republicans. And very conservative. Now, this did not sit well with Jackson who was always a big liberal. I have no idea what Jackie was politically, but when Ladd started talking politics, Jackie would apparently always find some polite excuse to leave.

You have to understand- Farrah had been a ray of sunshine on that set. She was always so goddamn pleasant and happy. :) Then Ladd comes along, and she's a little bitch who acts like the world owes her something, and that she should be treated like a Queen. That creates a LOT of tension, particularly given the comparison. And Ladd really didn't have much interest in befriending the other girls anyway- she was really not a friendly girl"

This supposed insider doesn't even know AllanLadd was David Ladd's father ?!? Liars on DL always believe other liars.

Kate is hell on earth to work with ask anyone who had the displeasure of working with her "Baby Boom" or poor Bruce

Boxleitner who suffered through four seasons of Katie's mood swings on SAMK.

Nope, i won't tell you about Kate Jackson because so many have in this exhaustive thread. i will only say i loved her (but i loved Bruce Boxlientner more) in Scarecrow and Mrs. King. Now lay to rest this dumbass thread. Goodbye, Goodnight, Go Home.

R587 Thanks for this! Not surprised at all. It all fits together R559. The guy on the set is not the only one who talked about it. Ladd was a nightmare on the set. Years later she admitted that she had let success get to her head. Cheryl had done some sneaky things to Kate. No wonder Kate kept her at arm’s length.

Seriously, shut up now. Go home, good night. I'm so sick of seeing this thread week in and week out. it's fucking tedious and done to death. rip out the shag carpet and go with bamboo flooring. shut up already!!!

Oh shut up! You never joined this thread. Why now! And if you don't like it just stay away! Good night!

Here's to more Friday nights with my fellow Kate fans-

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Great find R587! A very interesting and eye-opening read! I always thought there's just something cold about Cheryl Ladd and her fake ass laugh. Must have been awful to work with that bitch. Kate never spilled the tea, she's such a class act.

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