'Indebted' on NBC

Yeah, no.

Strong cast - it could hit.

I have a feeling it's going to be a huge hit for the network

When did Steven Weber turn into Rob Schneider?

I would have preferred a Nanny sequel series but I'll take any Fran Drescher over no Fran Drescher.

Why do networks like NBC, ABC, and CBS continue to greenlight shitty sitcoms that look like they've crawled out of a late-90's time capsule?

Is the young guy a bargain basement Paul Rudd?

This should do well in its current time slot between Veronica’s Closet and Suddenly Susan.

All of Frans post-Nanny sitcoms have been incredibly dated. It’s like she can’t get out of the 90’s.

Fran’s version of “Life with Lucy.”

Is Madeline still mad at her?

The explosive laff track is unintentionally funny. But that's about all.

Adam Pally needs to bring back Happy Endings

A second for a Nanny sequel. I love that show!

I can't believe this pilot actually got picked up. It is so pedestrian.

literally no one ever has their heads that close to each other

Abby Elliott is trying to be like Debra Barone but ain't cutting it. Talented comedian but miscast in this part.

Fran was on Wendy this morning, and she said after this show, the next project is a Nanny Broadway musical written with her ex- husband, and then reboot of the Nanny, with her in the Sylvia role and maybe John Leguizamo as Morty

And? How was it?

Not as bad as that new Jason Biggs garbage on Fox, but pretty bad.

Fran also suggested a TV reboot in which she would play the grandmother. She threw out Cardi B as someone who would be great as The Nanny.

Gotta keep making that $$$ to keep her gay ex in designer caftans!

Abby Eliot is an untalented skank!

It stunk...the best friend is an incredibly bad actor.

Even The Nanny started out awkwardly Maybe they can make something out of this. It has a 13-episode guarantee.

Apparently Rachel Bloom from Crazy Ex Girlfriend is writing the music and lyrics to The Nanny musical with one of her musical collaborators from CEG.

And the only good song will the TV theme song they will use for the curtain call.

I would love it if they had Charles Shaughnessy play her husband. No offense to Steven Weber but she has far more chemistry with Mistah Sheffield.

It was good enough for what it is, where and when it airs.

I think it has possibilities. The premise is funny and I like the cast. I’m going to hope it does okay.

The set is so generic looking. As are the actors minus the Franny.

Carol's second act got better over time.

R31, Thanks for chiming in Patty Heaton. Don’t you have women’s rights to campaign against?

[quote] I would love it if they had Charles Shaughnessy play her husband. No offense to Steven Weber but she has far more chemistry with Mistah Sheffield.

How about Steven Weber and Tim Daly as an Eldergay couple?

How original!

But hotter!

Really?

Was I the only one here who like Happily Divorced with a gay ex-husband playing the gay ex-husband in real life? Or whatever.

holy shit that was bad... I am embarrassed for all of them

I love Fran, but that was pretty lackadaisical

[quote] Was I the only one here who like Happily Divorced with a gay ex-husband playing the gay ex-husband in real life? Or whatever.

Love Happily Divorced. I wish they would have put both seasons out on DVD instead of just the first, since TVLand doesn't carry the show on its app.

[quote]Is the young guy a bargain basement Paul Rudd?

How do you not know who Adam Pally is? Oh you're old. Never mind.

[R33]: I'd watch that, and add my own story that the eldergays were still hot for each other.

Shitty sitcom writing.

No. Just no. Nope. I said No!

She has aged so well. Not too much work. Looks great.

You can see her face up close here.

Totally off topic, but in the early 00s, I was really good friends with a girl I worked with. We would hang out at her house in Venice all the time. Fran was fing the guy next door. That laugh is real folks. We would drink our wine and crack up hearing them fuck.

Ah the good ol' days.

This. Looks. Dreadful.

Her face work is excellent, if there is any. Maybe she gained a little to fill it out.

Any tidbits about what she uses?

I’m a little disappointed about the reboot. It’s generous of her to offer the spotlight to a younger star, but I would be more interested in a continuation of the original show. We’re supposed to pretend she’s not the nanny, or did she dump Mr Sheffield and return to Flushing to have another daughter that follows in her footsteps?

Sorry, should have linked to the image...

Does Steve Webber show peen?

He did when he was in "Hair."

I can already hear the cringy laughtrack .. .. imagine if Fran did something totally out of character .. like played a speed junky on HBO

There may be a market for 90s style sitcoms given that streaming services are doubling down on edgier, younger-oriented shows.

Lots of 60somethings who fondly remember the 90s, and I'm not just talking about Datalounge

God that was bad! It reminds me of Lucy's last sit com, "Life With Lucy." Someone needs to send a note to Fran Drescher: You can't package manure and cover up the smell.

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R23 Yeah, that guy sucks in any movie or show he does.

Didn't laugh once.

She was on Wendy Williams the other day. She spoke about the new show, the Nanny Broadway musical, and the possible The Nanny reboot, in which she hopes Rapper/Singer Cardi B will star.

She also talked about having a "maintenance man" who comes over twice a month to clean her womanly pipes out.

Pass. We watched the first episode. These folks were trying way too hard to be funny.

She is her own biggest fan.

Watched it.... I like Fran, will give 1-2 more shots

The Hollywood Reporter reviewer said the first three episodes almost seem like three different concepts: "Why make audiences eat the undercooked first batch of pilot pancakes?"

Also: "Weber and Drescher...can do this in their sleep. Drescher is sticking to her tried-and-true persona — more generous than calling it "schtick" — and if you think you can imagine the Nanny referring to "the Tweeter" or "AirBLT" or misquoting Nelson Mandela, then you can probably skip [italic]Indebted[/italic] entirely, because it doesn't get any better than that."

They should have cast Chris Elliot as the father. That would have been wonderfully weird and meta ish.

R64 Chris Elliott played Abby's father in some movie with Aaron Tveit. There was also Clara's Ghost which featured Chris' wife Paula, Abby, and other daughter Bridey playing a family of an actor dad with two actress daughters and the mother is fed up with being shoved aside. It's really weird, but entertaining movie written and directed by Bridey.

Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks for the scoop on that!

Chris Elliot coulf make the telephone book sound funny just by his delivery.

Just watched and I agree that it was bad. Not one laugh in the entire thirty minutes. Badly written... horribly cast...and all the actors seem to think they're on a different show, or that they're the stars and everyone around is a bit player. That guy from Happy Endings is horrible and Abby Elliot is Ann Doysenberry without the charm. I'll tune in a few more times for Fran but whoever thought this was ready to air should never be allowed to make a mistake like that again. Horrible. Drescher deserves better.

Woof. Just watched it. At least it can’t get worse. Can it?

Pally has moments of cuteness. He was at his cutest on The Mindy Project.

Shouldn't y'all give it at least until episode 2? Pilots can be clunky. It usually takes 2 or 3 episodes to get a groove going.

Paging Dorothy Lyman!

Pronto! Stat!

[quote]Shouldn't y'all give it at least until episode 2? Pilots can be clunky. It usually takes 2 or 3 episodes to get a groove going.

Honey, you new here? We hated it, of course we aren't giving up on it.

Weber who plays her husband looks so much like her gay ex husband irl Marc!!

I watched the first episode. There was absolutely nothing compelling enough about it to make me want to watch a second one.

Fran does look great though. Steven Weber, who is four years younger than her in real life, looks ancient.

I really thought that Pally's backside in the mirror was going to be the kicker in the subplot, alas it didn't happen. It just kind of fizzled.

[quote] I would love it if they had Charles Shaughnessy play her husband. No offense to Steven Weber but she has far more chemistry with Mistah Sheffield.

Charles has appeared on all her post-Nanny shows. Undoubtedly he'll appear in this one too.

He needs the dollars, apparently - he appears at those headshot conventions all the time and will sell you an autographed photo for 70 bucks.

[quote]He needs the dollars, apparently - he appears at those headshot conventions all the time and will sell you an autographed photo for 70 bucks.

Those people make a nice living. The actors, usually when the parts start to dry up, who do those types of events can do quite well. Butch Patrick was on Stern several years ago and said that he makes a half million a year just on autograph signings and nostalgia conventions.

Did Steven Weber always sound like an old Jewish guy from Great Neck or is Fran's influence giving him that accent?

He's from Queens.

Yeah a stretch that these two are from Connecticut. I thought it was Long Island until they said where they lived.

where do the kids live?

Fran looked fab in the episode I saw the other night.

[quote] he appears at those headshot conventions all the time and will sell you an autographed photo for 70 bucks.

How much does he charge for a blowjob?

I made it through them talking about going to see Drake in concert and I bailed (not because of that). What a fucking POS. Poorly written, poorly acted. Dan Levy did this? I guess we know who in the family has the talent.

I think that is a different Dan Levy.

....

Oh thank god!

Glad its not the Dan Levy of Schitt's Creek fame.

I think this show fits fine with Caroline and the City, Boston Common and the Single Guy,

I don't get Steven Weber's beard. He's very handsome--why would he hide that?

[quote]where do the kids live?

They all live in Connecticut.

[quote]I don't get Steven Weber's beard. He's very handsome--why would he hide that?

Maybe to look older, he's playing a Grandfather.

Adam Pally is a good comic actor. His straight-bro-but- gay character on HAPPY ENDINGS could be infuriating, but that was more a function of the writing. Pally was often the best thing in a single episode. I also saw him do an off-Bway play a year ago, in a serious dramatic role, and he was quite good.

He's terrible in this, or at least in the pilot that I saw. Chewing scenery, spitting it out, and chewing it again every time he's on camera. Just self-conscious and awful.

On the plus side, I agree that Fran has had the best cosmetic work money can buy. She just looks like a refreshed version of herself. Really lovely.

Can Steven Weber's eyes be any closer together?

Watching this now. Christ, it's shit. How does crap like this get greenlit?

The worst.

I don't know if he's gay, but his dick is.

^ Sorry. Wrong thread.

Fran Drescher is slumming it.

R95, that pic belongs on every thread

Abby Ellliott looks and sounds like Kaley Cuoco.

Fran's cashing a check. Her character is a big nothing but she sure wears skin tight clothes full make and heels walking around the house at all hours.

[quote]Watching this now. Christ, it's shit. How does crap like this get greenlit?

It should be cancelled. And Fran has no acting range - plays the same character over and over in everything she does.

I have to admit the scene where they're talking about the son skipping grades as a kid but he was actually being held back was pretty funny.

With Drescher's talk about the Nanny reboot and the Nanny musical project, it looks like even she doesn't believe in the longevity of Indebted. Being producer or consultant behind the scenes, that may work. But she would not be able to play in the reboot while Indebted is still going on.

I'm still watching the show, but I cannot believe that any professional writers are involved. It really is dreadful.

I gave up on it. Just couldn't watch it anymore.

It's on again tonight!

They are running two new episodes this week, are they burning them off?

If this show gets renewed I'll eat my hat.

I like the absurd and bizarre, like Schitt’s Creek and Brooklyn Nine-Nine, but this show has no bearing at all to any recognizable human behavior.

It's pretty terrible.

Why isn't someone making a show for Fran where she's more of a Mame type character? Probably too similar to the Nanny, but she doesn't fit well in domesticated stuff.

I don’t want to be the one to say this, but I noticed there are many women writers and producers on the show, so I imagine a few of them are lesbians, and you know the stereotype that lesbians have an impaired sense of humor...

I cannot think of another reason why the show is so lamely and lazily written. (But I guess the make writers and producers must stink too…)

R111 I agree and the lesbian daughter on the show is poorly written.

This premise was more or less done 30 years ago with Hal Linden. As a writer it absolutely astonishes me that a show like this gets green lit and gets a 13 episode guarantee. This is the only credit for many of the writers, I can’t believe they turned out something so stale.

I love Fran Drescher but at this point she’s getting like Valerie Cherish of The Comeback slumming it in dated sitcom schlock while being unable to move past her former glory. And just like Valerie shocked everyone when she did the dramatic part on HBO, I’d love to see Fran do something on Netflix that‘s totally out of her range. She was fantastic as Bobbie Fleckman and still she looks great. She has it in her to play a no nonsense agent “money talks and bullshit walks”, a lawyer, a senator.....I’d rather see her in a paint by numbers Shonda Rhimes medical show that this.

Tarantino should give her something juicy to do.

Fran did an episode of Law & Order (or maybe it was L&O SVU) where her daughter was murdered. It didn't work. She would have been better playing one of the sharp attorneys. It worked for Tovah, it worked for LuPone.

[quote} It worked for Tovah

Until she got shot.

Did Tovah get shot on L&O? I know she got disbarred or something.

It needs some retooling.

Well, they had 12 episodes and perhaps, that’s that.

[quote]Fran did an episode of Law & Order (or maybe it was L&O SVU) where her daughter was murdered. It didn't work. She would have been better playing one of the sharp attorneys. It worked for Tovah, it worked for LuPone.

It was L&0 Criminal Intent. I remember the episode was quite awful.

Criminal Intent episodes don't seem to be available on streaming services. I gave up on it after two seasons. D'Onofrio knew everyone and everything. It was too much.

Speaking of too much, I really don't think at this stage, Fran can do anything or be anything other than Fran. Over-the-top Fran.

But if she can be properly slotted and written for, that personality is still appealing

To no one's real surprise, NBC has not renewed the series for a second season

Was it cancelled? Too bad. I was kind of getting used to its cringe factor. I actually liked that hot goss episode, it was almost funny.