Elizabeth Warren is fading

So that will just be more money for Bernie. I just hope is this. Continues that someone won’t be propping him up like that movie: Weekend at Bernie’s.

She should go hide in a wine cave.

she only wants the poor's to donate. It worked!

I want Warren but if it's not meant to be I hope she fights hard for Bernie. I'd say Warren for Bernie's VP but I think that would make people even more afraid to vote for him, same if he, god forbid, picks AOC. I have no problem with her but no one would vote for that ticket other than those who will vote for Bernie no matter who he picks. Trump won by promising people in the swing and red states what Bernie promised and then Trump added in some hate speech because he knew they wanted that in addition to what Bernie was promising. Of course Trump broke every promise except to encourage hate.

She was my first choice, and I donated several times to her campaign...until her comment about Pete's wine cave. I don't hold her and other politicians to unrealistic standards, but her level of hypocrisy surprised me. She has always been against corporate greed and corruption , and that resonated with me, and I ignored the anti-wealth sentiments that underlied that until she criticized Pete. What? Wealthy people can't support their causes in the way in they choose to? She's lost me. She has gone from being my first choice, and now I won't consider her at all.

One screeching commie down, one screeching commie to go, and then it's sweet, sweet Pete headlong into disaster.

[quote]if he, god forbid, picks AOC

AOC is not old enough to be President, and therefore, cannot be anyone’s Vice-President until she turns 35.

R7, only if she lives that long.

R5

Warren is rich herself, so it was extremely hypocritical.

A decade ago, I wanted Warren to run. Now I wish she would go away. I’m sick of her hypocrisy, nonsensical lies, and clueless pandering.

She can’t win a general election, so it’s best that she is not the nominee

Well, Kamala was my first choice even though I was never delusional enough to think that she would eventually be the nominee. I sure wished so however and never jumped ship. That said, everyone outside of Tulsi (that evil trash of a person) in the Dem race are great thinkers, want the best for our country, have great character or are just pioneering people who desire change that will keep us from fading as power in the way that we have under the current administration. They all fit one or more boxes. I love Warren and want to see her somewhere in the next administration. Same goes for the others but mostly for my favorite. Kamala has the voice, brains and guts that this country desperately needs now. VP, AG, whatever. Love Pete also!

Trump is so disliked, that the Dems can afford to nominate a woman, person of color, or a socialist, and he or she will win.

I've never been a fan. I would have voted for her, unenthusiastically, if she had won the nomination. But she did this to herself. I don't understand candidates who can't read the room and who run campaigns that are destined to crash and burn because they can't get out of their own way. I have also been completely turned off by the way she has zeroed in on Pete, who is a better candidate and who has run a great campaign.

Biden-Warren

Biden-Harris.

I like the way she challenged Pete. She was firm and serious. Not afraid of confrontation.

Why do lesbians hate Trump so much? I can't see that he's done anything to earn their special ire, except beat Saint Hillary at the polls.

I guess that is the unforgivable sin.

^^^troll alert^^^

Biden-Klobuchar

R16 Warren sounded like a tattle tail. Neither she nor Bernie have any chance of winning a General. The race will be between Biden and Pete. I'm voting for Pete. Thus far, his campaign is flawless.

[quote]The race will be between Biden and Pete.

Biden and Amy, who is currently surging while Pete is faltering.

If the Dems don't come up with a suitable candidate, the race will be lost before the gun goes off.

A doddering has been. An ill tempered Jewish socialist. A New England academic. A Midwestern Frau. A smart young gay man.

Who do you think America will pick?

A Massachusetts professor has no chance of winning

Time for a new slogan

This was inevitable.

#IACaucus former registered Republican in Marshalltown today on why she changed her registration to caucus for @PeteButtigieg: "[He] is intelligent. He has an understanding of the constitution. He served our country, and I think that he's the complete opposite of Donald Trump."

No way Warren or Bernie can appeal to Republicans and Independents. And Biden is an old relic.

The person quoted at R27 makes a good point, that a lot of relatively low information voters pick out some basic, universal traits that give them confidence in the person’s personality, more than policy positions. If they can pick out one or two policy positions, it’s a lot. So often, they get those mixed up, or listen to Republican propaganda and get confused.

But someone that has military service, it doesn’t take a genius to know what that is. Most people respect that. And most of the present field never served. I think Pete is the only one. Tulsi doesn’t count, she’s already out.

Pete never served either. 7 months for his resume. He needs his daddy's approval. He's strictly a nurture over nature gay.

So being in the Navy means you “never served”? Is this a rule that only applies to gay people, or what?

Elizabeth Warren’s sad last days?

I don't know what I'm missing, but many people feel that Harris would be absolutely, positively a slam dunk best choice for vice president. All I can think of is that it's some sort of a coastal, bubble thing?

R32: So who do the rural, fartland bubble dwellers want then?

I suppose AmyKlob?

In this country, a smarty-pants schoolmarm is NEVER going to be President.

Good I haven't respected her since she went from co-opting Bernies health care plan to stealing Pete's.

And then her surrogates had the nerve to accuse Pete of flip flopping! Lol

R32 Harris brings absolutely nothing to a general election.

Biden-Buttigieg

It is definitely for the best.

It is definitely for the best.

She fucked herself over with the “wine cave” shit when it was discovered she did the same damn thing.

She’s over.

Remember when Kamala thought attacking Biden about bussing in the 1970s was a smart move? She managed to alienate a big portion of the non-PC, salt of the earth people, who were driven to Biden all the more, after things settled down. She never really recovered from that, and the take away for most people was that she was a phony, “woke,” bitch.

Many years ago, when Sarah Palin had to debate Biden for the VP slot, at the beginning of the debate, Palin went over to Biden and said, “do you mind if I call you Joe”? Biden had no idea what was going on so he said okay. First thing out of her mouth at the top of the debate was some nasty play on Biden’s first name. Managed to make herself look like a petty cunt in about two minutes, and permanently branded herself that way for the rest of the campaign.

That’s basically what happened with Kamala, and it’s happening now with Warren. Moral of the story, don’t think being a bitch is going to make people love you. It isn’t. Stick to the policies and don’t try to make personal attacks. People just think people that do that are cunts that aren’t up to par, so they attack others in the hope you won’t notice. People notice.

And these days with the internet, bashing another candidate leads inevitably to people opening up your own can of worms and looking inside. Hard.

She's still top 3, but she and Comrade Sanders can't fade soon enough.

Did she peak too soon? She’s too liberal anyway. It’s gonna be Biden or maybe mayo Pete.

Bernie needs a younger POC as VP not another strident, left-wing, senior from the North East.

If you go by current polls, Pete wins Iowa, Bernie wins NH, and Biden wins Nevada and SC. If it plays out like that, then Warren will be forced to drop out after South Carolina.

Democrats are not choosing another woman to be our nominee against Trump again. But we'll likely get a female VP on the ticket.

We have to focus on Biden (unless someone really spectacular breaks out). He's the one the Russiapublicans were afraid of enough to try and trash. Yeah, he's old-old (though only 3 1/2 years older than Trump). But people feel safe with him; he's a known quantity.

But because of his age, his VP must also be a known quantity (one heartbeat away...). It may have to be one of the other POTUS candidates just because they are fresh in people's distracted minds.

EW probably thought the wine cave remark would be an irrefutable one-liner.

Too bad the US needs a president with perseverance and long term thinking now more than ever. It'll take a lot more than clever one-liners to undo the damage the GOP has inflicted on the country.

She's still getting my vote on Super Tuesday.

I am feeling more and more confident about Pete's chances with each passing day. Despite the non stop and baseless attacks from the left, his campaign has been almost flawless. Say it loud and say it proud, 'President Pete'!

Send her back to the reservation.

[quote]Pete Buttigieg drew a bigger crowd in Des Moines area tonight than Elizabeth Warren, who got several hundred this afternoon. Dozens began leaving ~45 minutes into Warren’s hour-and-16-minute speech/Q&A; one person told me she was leaving to drive across town to see Buttigieg.

Oops, people were leaving Warren's speech to head over to hear Pete.

Joy Reid is solidly in favor of Warren.

Pete is so... corporate. Unless he can pull that crowbar out of his ass he will never connect with the public.

I saw Joy Reid getting some criticism on twitter over that, R53. She was backing Kamala, then Kamala dropped out, now she’s backing Warren. I saw some people were very irritated that she was using her show to promote her one favorite candidate, to the exclusion of others she doesn’t endorse. They were saying she was misusing the show to promote personal political beliefs.

As this drags on, Cenk and others are being accused of the same thing. Promoting their favorite, ignoring or attacking all others. It’s like an unpaid political commercial. I wonder if that an FCC violation. It’s not The Elizabeth Warren Show.

Yeah, going negative doesn't seem to work with the great middle of the Democratic primary voters. I hated her anyway.

R52, I saw that. So will Warren become outraged that her audience empties out at Pete Time? What’s the next jibe? “Pete’s wine cave was completely unlike my wine cave, with bottles of wine with my name and face on them! He just doesn’t have as much class as me!”

Just wait for the general. Trump will have ads with “”Pocahontas Winery” on them.

WTF cares who Joy Reid favors, R53? Homophobic bitch who has had it out for Pete from the beginning.

Nice to see that, R52. I guess Democratic Iowans aren't fans of hypocrisy and lies.

R58, black women on twitter watch Joy’s show and follow everything she says and does. And even some of them are tired of it.

I don't even care if Joy Reid isn't a fan of Pete but it's so damn telling that out of ALL of the candidates - she's gunning for him the most. In actuality, it barely has anything to do with policy it's the fact that he's had a dick in his mouth.

Biden and Kamala.

He needs a woman and I like her. The "color" thing is unimportant.

She's a tough broad and it will make him more likeable.

Hey, what ever it takes to get rid of the pig. Remember, it's all about the SCOTUS. Don't be distracted.

R61, I think she'd make a good VP as well. Pete definitely deserves a cabinet position. Bernie deserves nothing and will GET nothing.

I cannot believe you all think Pete has a chance! Talk about delusional. oh my sides. NO black person would ever vote for him. Just STOP. No Biden No Kamala. This will only end in lots of tears. Bernie for the win only! ✊

[quote]Joy Reid is solidly in favor of Warren.

And this is VERY important information because we all know that where Joy Reid goes, the nation goes!🙄

It makes me doubt Warren's progressive credentials when I see people like Maddow and Reid and other Hillary backers supporting her. Why did all of these longstanding establishment centrists turn left for Warren all of sudden?

I would vote for Bernie, Pete and Biden before the faux progressive Warren

R63 refuses to vote for anyone that’s not a Russian asset.

I've posted this before so please bear with me.

I like Mayor Pete but I'm afraid he's unelectable.

A cabinet post at least. I am very proud to be represented as a gay man by him.

We're stuck with the old white guy. He's not awful and he can win the swing states.

I love my country and at 47 (an elder gay) things have to change.

I was discussing the candidates with my father over Christmas, and when Warren's name came up he said, "Just between us, she's nothing but an old crone."

That's really how most men feel about her. For men to vote for a woman for president, she needs to be attractive and charismatic. As dumb as she was, men liked Sarah Palin because they wanted to fuck her. And it's why Tulsi Gabbard has supporters.

R68 I very much dislike Warren but yes that is a sad reality we live in.

ExCUSE me, but I love Tulsi and am not sexually attracted to her! Your casual sexism is lame!

HuffPo is all Warren all the time.

They'll have a meltdown when it's not her, R71. Good.

Bye bye Liz!

"...men liked Sarah Palin because they wanted to fuck her"

Similar to why women voted for Trump: The Princess Syndrome. They'll debase themselves to filth just to have diamonds and furs.

R61 Kamala is unlikeable. Even among black folks. That's why she's gone.

Pete will take Nevada.

I'm with you R61. Biden/Kamala all the way. She fills in everything that he lacks and both are perfect in their chosen roles. DO IT!!

[quote] I was discussing the candidates with my father over Christmas, and when Warren's name came up he said, "Just between us, she's nothing but an old crone."

And that's exactly why I'm voting for Warren. Someone needs to stick it to these old straight men!

....when she be a cute papoose.

She has the old maid brigade of the American Library Association vote locked up! That's an important demographic !

[quote] I am feeling more and more confident about Pete's chances For the nomination, maybe. But he won’t motivate POC to get out and vote for him in Nov. and without them he can’t win. He’s too white, too bland and too clueless when it comes to POC.

Pete appeals to the white rural voters that Democrats have been losing for decades. He understands the Midwestern block we need. Rats can’t win by being a coastal party anymore. He’s the only other candidate that understands that. It’s understood we can’t win without the black vote, but we can’t win with only the black vote.

Democrats not Rats! 😂

[quote]It’s understood we can’t win without the black vote, but we can’t win with only the black vote.

Clinton was similarly popular with black primary voters; her drop-off among them in the general election was similar to Dem drop-off generally from 2012.

I'll keep posting this until my head blows off.

It's going to take an old, straight white guy to win.

Again, it's about the SCOUTS. Wake up.

I sign all my posts for a reason. We need to kick that criminal out at ALL costs.

As a gay man I fear for our future.

Exactly, R83. Black people will NOT turn out in large numbers to vote for Pete in 2020, they just won’t. And I don’t think Pete connects with blue collar white voters either, nowhere close to how Biden does. I just don’t think Pete can win a presidential election.

Pete doesn't appeal to rural white voters or the working class. His appeal is almost exclusively to the professional class already firmly at home with in the democratic party, especially Boomers who are content with the diversity he represents.

R86, Yeah that explains his dominance in Iowa.

As we know, Iowa is mainly a state of attorneys and stockbrokers. Very few down to earth, farmer types there.

The midwest is filled with bleeding heart white people. They probably look at Pete as their pet. Do you think there's enough of these people to win an election?

R86 Did you need to go on YouTube and watch his town halls. Blue-collar all the way.

It would be a shame if the three front runners wind up being three white men, albeit one of the young and gay.

I wish a Kamala had not dropped out.

Stacey Abrams is much more likable than Kamala. Minorities will flock to the polls to vote for a Biden/Abrams ticket.

I’m not thrilled with Biden as our nominee, but I’m resigned to the fact that he’s likely better than the rest.

Biden—Harris should probably be the ticket. Put Mayo Pete in the Cabinet or let him run for something other than mayor of a city with 102,000 people. The Senators should go back to the Senate.

In the end, the only thing that matters is getting rid of the Orange Cheatolini.

I love DL logic. Black people who, traditionally, show up for Democrats by wide margins in almost every election are going to stay at home this time because of Pete. You people need to stay the fuck off Twitter. You know who you dumb dumbs should be worried about, the fucking Bernie Bros and the Warren Fraus and all those wackadoodle progressives who will vote third party because there is no difference between Trump and the democratic nominee or who are going to be "disappointed" because their give me free stuff candidate didn't get the nomination.

[quote]Minorities will flock to the polls to vote for a Biden/Abrams ticket.

Whites will not flock to the polls to vote for a Biden/Abrams ticket.

Obama won due to The Black Vote- both times. It was just enough to push him out of the sand trap Karl Rove & posse dug for him.

Democrats cannot win without a huge turnout from minorities.

R92, Stacey might be appealing to some, but not appealing to the masses. I hate to be frank - but I will be. Physical attractiveness is a big deal in politics. You can can be a lot of things - old, bald, etc......but NOT obese or lacking in needed dental work - and not lacking in polish. It just doesn't work and never has. Abrams seems to be a nice woman, but her appeal is limited to very few. her lack of polish and gloss just will not fly for those who Biden needs to garner votes from. Kamala is gorgeous, brilliant, well-spoken and can appeal to masses. Kamala's issue seemed to be that she appealed more to other minorities than African Americans. Biden already has African Americans in the bag. Kamala cements the others and leaves a beautiful, polished package for the ticket. She also brings the fire-power that Biden lacks. He needs her voice when the debates come along. he doesn't need Abrams at all - what is she going to bring the ticket? Biden-Kamala is it. Period.

R97 speaks the truth about Abrams. And Harris.

From Politico:

"Harris is everything the 76-year-old Biden is not. The freshman senator from California is younger, a woman and a person of color. As Biden gets dinged for his bipartisan bromides, Harris is winning applause from progressives for her merciless cross-examination of Trump officials."

They described the pair as a "DREAM TICKET"..

Black voters DO NOT LIKE Kamala Harris.

Kamala is from California and Biden needs midwestern states to win the electoral college.

If Presidents were elected by popular votes, it wouldn’t matter. But the states Hillary lost that we need to win are in the Midwest.

R101, I hear you - but WHO exactly is going to appeal to those states? Biden's running mate MUST be a woman or you stand to alienate many voters. We know that the last election was rigged anyway and that the electoral college is a racket. We can't change that. Hillary chose a terrible running mate. He really didn't appeal to anyone. As much as I hate that queen Mike Pence - he cemented the evangelical vote for Trump. Kamala does have a following in the South and also appeals to white blue collar men as well as independents. Kamala is fresh and new in all the ways that Biden is not. Kamala speaks eloquently and has really ignited a following from her amazing Senatorial grilling of Trump fucktards (Jabba-the-Hut Barr, Rapist Kavanaugh and that little opossum Sessions for a start..). Pete is also a possibility, but a much lesser one. he doesn't round out the ticket in a way that helps Biden. All Pete voters would also vote Biden once he is the nom.

Getting votes in the South is pointless in red states that will never turn blue. There’s too much emphasis on pleasing black voters in red states we can never carry. Most of those states are never even close.

The states Hillary lost in the Midwest were states that Obama was able to carry. I think a lot of the issue there is that those states are fairly conservative and they aren’t anxious for a woman President.

Hillary took those states for granted and spent her time elsewhere. She displayed a scant knowledge of the problems of those states and offered nothing to the. That's why she lost.

This is why nobody should go against the Peter

What did 'trump offer them, R104? All lies.

R104 - can you prove that she DID loose? She won the popular vote heavily and the entire world now knows that Russian interference was a major issue with the electoral tally. Correct? I know that you are some sort of Trump freak, but the entire United States intelligence community has proven that your assertions are flawed. Oh, maybe you are not US citizen or are you just a traitor?

Fuck off, R107. That's the problem; anyone who speaks the truth which is against the "Holy Doctrine" is labeled a traitor. Jesus Christ, do you even read, or are you one of the may idiots who have to rationalize her ELECTORAL COLLEGE loss by making false assertions." Oh, the US has determined the there was Russian interference, so that must mean that she actually won the Midwest states." No, she ignored their concerns. That's why she lost, sweetie. Read and understand.

R 107. If the Dems want to win this year, they cannot take the same states for granted.

What's fading? Her hair color?

The feathers on her native headdress?

Her sobriety?

You fuck off, r108. You can't change the fact that Hillary won the popular vote by a huge margin, a larger margin than any man historically except for Obama '08.

Yeah, she lost the electoral college and thus the Presidency. Possibly for reasons you cite, but definitely also because of the Russian influence. And not one of the people in those states is better off because Trump won. Like virtually the entire country, he's been a disaster for them.

Buttigieg/Harris is good. She brings all her star quality, he brings the midwest.

The polls are fact, not opinion. Black voters are not into Harris, and are not going to suddenly become highly enthusiastic if she were named as a running mate.

This mindset of black voters as petulant children throwing temper tantrums gets old.

"Yeah, she lost the electoral college and thus the Presidency."

And she could have won had she won the Midwest states that she ignored. It's just that simple. Even you are able to comprehend that. I hope.

What annoys me is that a lot of so-called liberal and woke white democrats always like to lay the the foundation early and often that it is somehow the fault of black democrats when democratic candidates don't win. Again, worry about the Bernie Bros and the Sarandon's and the third party voters. Focus your attention on them for a change. Focus on who they like and who appeals to them. Focus on their voting patterns in the swing states. Black voters are going to be just fine.

So many great posts.

What needs to be done is this.

Pick an electable candidate and back him/her up. Sorry, there's just no hers. And I love women.

We have to get that fat pig out. At any cost.

True, r114. I'm agnostic on Harris as a running mate, but to say that Biden would need Harris to win the South!? Biden is doing well in the South all by himself. In fact, Kamala did poorly in the South (and everywhere else). She doesn't have broad support from Black voters. Biden does. If Biden is the nominee, he'll probably choose a woman (possibly a woman of color) as his running mate. That doesn't mean he'll go for Harris or should go for Harris.

So long! Farewell! Auf Wiedersehen, adieu Adieu, adieu, to yieu and yieu and yieu!

Stop the Harris BS. She's of no use to any candidacy. Already forgotten.

One of the most important rules of politics and running for office in particular is not to demean or stigmatize others- it implies they are less than. Now Trump by a perfect storm (last straw was Comey's reopening of the email bullshit) was an exception and continues to be. That's because his appeal is to the minority of Americans who remain in the white only world in combination with religious bigotry. Warren should not imply wealthy people including donors (which are different from corporations and PACs) have no part in selecting Presidents and other implied judgements. I am one of those people- wealthy, progressive, who thinks that my "class" is under-taxed and the corporate sector let go scott free- Citizens United a scourge on our democratic system. This does not mean I think people do not have a perfect right to accumulate and even inherit wealth. Heck, I want to secure those I love as well. There is a happy medium- a fair distribution of wealth. My father made his pile in the 50s/60's and 70's when the top marginal tax rate never went below 75% (and as high as 90%). He retired in 1985 a couple years after Reagan took it below 30%. He made enough to secure the financial future of his children and then some if handled responsibly. And he and my Mom created a trust to benefit their principle philanthropic interests as well- equal to the amount any one of their children will inherit in trust or outright. His net worth including trusts was about 50 million at peak before wealth transfer began to happen. His counterparts 20 years after his retirement (CEOs at large financial institutions) catapulted to the 250 million and up range within that time- and more. His counterpart 10 years after his retirement was compensated at at least 10 times his peak, and taxed at much less.

So you see- you can be wealthy, and responsible, and philanthropic, and liberal. It is not all one way or the other. And EW seems to communicate that sentiment, Bernie too- which while not nearly as obnoxious as the bile coming from Trump is still offensive. Pete picked it up right away. I will of course vote for either EW or Bernie in a heartbeat, but damn if I do not prefer candidates who know better (that there are good people like my Dad) who earned their wealth (or even inherited) and use (used) it wisely. AND ARE NOT GREEDY. Trump has made it possible for my sibling and myself to inherit more- we did not want it, and we do not need it. But neither do we want to give up all our legacy from our parents- in part because it helps us secure the future for those we love, politicians we favor and charities we cherish.

P.S. I too like Stacey Abrams more than any of the women who have been in the Dem race thus far. She goes after corruption and lousy law rather than people (although that includes corrupt pols.)

Lol, r116. You think white people who are MORE privileged and less likely to be hurt by a Trump presidency are MORE likely to be swayed to vote for any dem candidate? Yeah, good luck with that.

Stacey Abrams couldn't even win an election in Georgia. You think she's going to bring out the votes in Michigan and Ohio? Try again.

[quote]but WHO exactly is going to appeal to those states? Biden's running mate MUST be a woman or you stand to alienate many voters.

Do I need to throw a fucking stapler to get your attention?

R124 Stacy Abrams can’t control her eating or her personal finances, you really think anyone would pick her as their VP?

Stop trying to make Amy Klobuchar happen.

VIRGINIA Trump 51% (+6) Sanders 45% . Trump 48% (+4) Warren 44% . Trump 47% (+2) Buttigieg 45%

@MasonDixonPoll 12/12-16

Again, Biden/Harris 2020. Period.

Why would Biden pick Harris after she painted him a racist? She fucked up.

Sadly

Stop trying to make Harris happen! She's the darling of liberal white voters, while black voters aren't that into her, and white moderates would be turned off.

I won't throw them out just because I don't like them, but those Trump numbers in Virginia sound awfully suspect for someone who's National approval is so low.

I posted this last summer. I live in Virginia. If the nominee is anyone but Biden, then Virginia is in play in spite of our newly minted "Blue" status. I still think we're Purple, but Democrats do control everything now.

Pete is my #1 and I would love him to be President, but it's clear that Joe is the guy and that hasn't changed. You Bernie and Warren stans are going to need to accept the truth.

Virginia is light blue or moreso purplish blue

Virginia is not gonna vote for Warren

Biden wants to pick Sally Yates as his running mate, but there are conversations within his campaign that he might need to pick a black running mate. If he wins the nomination, then they'll assess if he's strong enough with black voters by himself that he doesn't need to select a black person. I think he's more likely to choose a black man, since there are far more acceptable options available to him.

Sally Yates would be awesome.

Yeah but black voters would be nonplussed

With SNL bringing back so many alums for their debate talks I wish Carey would come do her, I know it would border on Church Lady, but I bet he would add a new level beyond Kate.

Has the poor dear been left out in the sun to long?

R136 Pete Buttigieg/ Sally Yates.

He needs to pick one of the other Dem Presidential candidates as a running mate. He’s likely to die in office, so the voters need to know that his VP is someone they’re familiar with and capable of taking on the Presidential role. Someone like Sally Yates is a nobody who voters barely even recognize.

As much as I think Old Joe is too far along age-wise and out of touch with the modern Democratic voter, if he's the one to get the Orange Dumpster out of the WH then so be it. We can have a cool hipster VP and cabinet, while at same time saving SCOTUS and preparing the New Dem party (and the country, for that matter) for a continued progressive shift leftward.

Of course there are better candidates (Mayor Pete, Harris, Warren) but we must be rid of the Repubs at all costs. Joe will satisfy and as mentioned likely to be a real lame duck should he get a 2nd term. A strong VP will be more of a co-President at that point, so that choice will be misson-critical.

Bernie is a finger waving nut bag that will never be president.

Liz Warren is also a nut.

A rich old white guy with a sexy young V.P. choice can win.

Stacey Abrams is a Meghan Markle shill.

Automatic disqualifier.

Stop trying to make Harris happen! She appeals to a limited number of liberal white Democrats, with absolutely no interest from anyone else beyond that demographic.

[quote]Why would Biden pick Harris after she painted him a racist? She fucked up.

No she didn't. That's politics in the 21st century. Everyone talks shit about everyone else, and then all is forgotten and forgiven when it comes time to pick a Veep and a cabinet.

If Biden ascertains that he needs a female Veep (and he does) and a woman of color (and he does), he knows what a good choice Kamala would be.

FLORIDA Trump 51% (+9) Warren 42% . Trump 49% (+5) Sanders 44% . Trump 49% (+4) Buttigieg 45%

@MasonDixonPoll 12/11-16

R146 is a troll who just keeps repeating the anti-Kamala rants. Who is he even responding to? Check out his posts - all the same and only on this thread.

R148 is a troll, too.

Bloomberg has risen to tie with Warren in a national poll now.

But has she collapsed?

Dang, anybody but Warren

[quote] Bloomberg has risen to tie with Warren in a national poll now.

That’s got to sting. Billionaires strike back.

People don’t think Warren can win

Will she evaporate?

Mike Bloomberg isn't a bad option.

Keep an open mind.

Whatever it takes to get rid o tRump.