Mayor Pete: Failed Mayor?

It's really surprising that he is getting way more bashed on gay sites than in anywhere else.

Gays are vicious towards each others

With 26% of South Bend voters, The Precious Mayor is sure to go all the way.

OP is a Russian Troll, but I have to say his grasp of English is better than most.

"Some 70% percent of South Bend voters say that “life in South Bend as a result of Mayor Pete has generally gotten better.” Among non-white voters, the figure rises to 76"

This doesnt fit the media narrative. Expect buzzfeed or the intercept to present their own poll with skewed, opposite results so the mass media can bash Pete some more.

You can get a poll to say whatever you want to say. A poll commissioned by a candidate by polling outfit with a mediocre rating doesn't tell you much.

I have OP on ignored. He's probably a RussianBot .

R5, if the poll said the exact opposite you'd be quoting it as gospel.

[quote]It's really surprising that he is getting way more bashed on gay sites than in anywhere else.

It's basically one troll (a Russian or a self-loathing gay, or both) who has posted dozens of Pete-bashing tread. Putting him on ignore is highly recommended.

^^threads^^

I'm the op I'm posting this because it's the opposite of the "failed mayor" narrative . Come on guys.

He's never getting the nomination.

Let it go.

[quote] according to a memo obtained by IMPORTANTVILLE

So delusional. The idea that a young mayor is qualified to be President is absurd. This isn't someone with community theater experience auditioning for a top film role. The outcome matters to the entire world. He's already shown he's willing to be bought. He would be a patsy for the Russians and the right wing., who would flatter him into doing whatever they wanted, or a significant version of it. He needs to give this up until he shows he can win a statewide election. If he can't get his own state to vote for him, he doesn't have a chance.

R13 I said this in the What is Nancy doing? thread and I'll repeat it here since you don't seem to have a clue just how Republican Indiana is. The 2 U.S. senators and all but 2 House representatives from Indiana are Republican (those 2 are from Gary and Indy), as are the Governor and Lieutenant Governor (and other state officials I didn't check).

If you are a Democrat, you have almost no possibility of being elected in a state-wide race (unless you can get the major cities behind you like Obama did). Hoosier Republicans generally vote straight ticket and many, many of them are homophobes. The best Pete could hope for (back when he was running for state office) was name recognition to help him in his next race.

Then maybe he should move, R14. Anyone who can't win a statewide election has no business running for POTUS,

[quote]Mayor Pete: Failed Mayor?

Which part of those results tells you that?

OP, they're playing your song!

We are pretty shitty to our own kind (other gays).

This is the kind of insanity Bernie turds are spreading.

[quote]Anyone who can't win a statewide election has no business running for POTUS,

1. Last time a Dem state treasurer was elected in Indiana was in 1971, dear.

2. Pete got more votes than the Dem candidate for governor that year and more votes than Bernie got in both of his senate elections combined. He won those votes with ZERO name recognition (he became mayor later).

3. 2010 was the worst year for Dems, and yet Pete still decided to run because the other guy said rape pregnancies are the will of God and fought Obama's attempts to rescue the auto industry in Indiana all the way to the Supreme Court. Sometimes fighting is as important as winning.

4, You're a fucking cunt.

R20, being a Democrat in Indiana is not easy. I'm glad he made it as far as he did. Indiana is like the deep south with all the "southern hospitality" striped away. Instead, you get post-industrial anger and creepy weirdness festering in a lot of the people.

[quote]So delusional. The idea that a young mayor is qualified to be President is absurd.

And yet he has huge support among older voters, judging by the polls. Don't you find it odd that older people seemingly don't care about D.C. experience? Aren't they the ones who are usually the most cautious?

The most D.C.-qualified candidates ever - Kerry, Gore, Hillary - all lost their respective elections. As for Carter, Clinton, and Obama, who severely lacked either congressional or executive experience, well, we all know how that turned out, don't we?

R19 he’s an inhuman shapeshifter now? Just like #sneakypete aka gay men are inherently untrustworthy and deceptive!! Woo lord these very good progressives keep showing their true colors. I hope Santa shoved some coal up their asses for Christmas morning.

r15 a smart play would have been to move to a more liberal state, but Pete isn't very liberal himself so he probably feels more at home as a Democrat in a conservative state.

I'm not surprised r1. I myself was all aboard the Pete train when he was talking like a liberal with a lot of common sense. Now he's become a run of the mill neoliberal type. That position won elections in the past, but people want change. Republicans, like Trump, offer crazy change, but change none the less. Pete offers very little in the way of change from what I've heard out of his campaign.

He is not the typical sort of gay man that many may rally behind. He comes off as rather detached from the gay community. Maybe it was due to years in the closet. He's used his sexuality as a great fundraising tool. But I can't connect with on an emotional level, despite our shared experiences. Idk, he leaves me feeling cold. Chasten is a pleasure.

The real horror is that one-eyed mut they keep showcasing. If he wins, I hope he keeps that thing in Indiana where it belongs. Perhaps the Kennedy's can gift them a photogenic dog, like they did for the Obamas. The brown one is fine.

r23, I have no idea where the fuck these people get their facts from. Is there some kind of alternative web for only Deplorables and Bernie turds? I guess we live in a "post-truthy" world.

r21 Indeed, and it drives me crazy that Klobuchar wants to equate it to Minnesota. Which state of the two started with that RFRA nonsense, bitch?

[quote]Pete still decided to run because the other guy said rape pregnancies are the will of God and fought Obama's attempts to rescue the auto industry in Indiana all the way to the Supreme Court.

And there are way more car and truck manufacturing jobs in Indiana than you might think--more than 100,000--yet it was important for Indiana Republicans to fight Obama on saving the industry in an economic crisis . . . because, well, you know . . .

[quote]Now he's become a run of the mill neoliberal type.

Show me one of his positions that has changed since he announced. You're just confused by the non-combative tone. After all, are you really a liberal if no one can hear you shout? It is crazy to me what Bernie's champagne socialism has done to the left in this country. And it's even crazier what seems to be coming after he's gone.

I won't address the dog thing. It just tells me you're unhinged that you even brought that up.

LOL Minnesota is so much better than Indiana in every way. She has no idea what she's talking about.

This is my favourite Pete meme. 😊

I wish Pete's supporters would just calm down. It's like talking to Bernie bros during the 2016 election. Catch your breath and grab a seat, Pete is 37, he's got at least 2-3 more presidential runs in him before her has to throw in the towel. We can't expect every young hot shots to be an Obama. That was a once in a lifetime candidate. So we must suffer through these B and C-list politicians while the next big thing, off in obscurity, finally decides to run for office. None of the people running this cycle have the It factor to be the next big thing.

There will be other gays men running for office. Some are in Congress now, others are sitting on their couches watching this sad spectacle. Hopefully, they will be tall, smart, attractive, and charismatic.

r28 so the problem with your question is that Pete refused to present any detailed policies when he first came out on the talk show circuit. But he said a whole lot of liberal things, including arguing in favor of Medicare for All. Remember, when asked about policies he would say that he's focused on the overall direction of the nation, pivoting to rhetoric that fell in line with the Party's liberal roots. Now, we have the K-street pro-business policies and it makes me feel like he may be too quick to compromise or offer neoliberal solutions to problems, playing into the Republican's hands. We've got to get out of the pocket of big business. Pete has no record for me to use as a safety blanket that lets me know that he's going to fight for the middle class. This is why a state wide or congressional position is so helpful in these elections because it forces politicians to actually take a stand.

R24, they are BOTH adorable.

The one with one eye is winking at 'ya.

No r33, just no.

R34, ha!

It doesn't matter, R20. He's not qualified. And he won't get the nomination. And if he doesn't get considerably more experience, he will never get the nomination, so if you like him, encourage him to enter politics some other way. He could get into the cabinet or be appointed a Consul or some other Executive position. it would allow him to run elsewhere and win. Or, if he does well, end up as a VP on a future ticket and then run.

^ “So if you like him, encourage him to enter politics some other way”

Oh fuck, you’re so right ... I’ll make sure to let you know over brunch this weekend. Thanks.

[quote]But he said a whole lot of liberal things, including arguing in favor of Medicare for All.

He was for Medicare For All Who Want It since before he started his campaign, as evidenced by this tweet. Yes, he entertained both M4A AND M4AWWI last year, but then he settled on the current option even before he launched his campaign. As is his right, to choose his own policy platform. And just like the PSA guys have said, the Dems had all sorts of notions what M4A meant just last year. The meaning of M4A has only been usurped by Bernie earlier this year to mean public option only. It even confused Kamala and Warren, to the point that they both had to backtrack later on.

You're just an outright liar, unarmed with any kind of factual information. But what else is new.

He still has liberal policies (most liberal in the field, in fact, when it comes to structural reforms and decriminalising drug possession), you just choose to ignore them because he's not shouting. And also because Bernie's policies are so fucking insane that you think pure socialism that breaks the country's bank is now the actual left.

Some (most?) of Pete's proposals would make Obama and Hillary blush, and neither of them could be accused of not being liberals.

R39, it seems the less accomplished and louder someone is, the more attention they get(i.e. Sanders).

r39 and all of your other posts, I never said I supported Bernie or used him as my model for an ideal Democrat. If anything, I said that Bernie supporters were as exhausting as Pete's fan club. Like some of you take the attacks against him way too personal. Like a typical celebrity stan war.

Thanks for the reminders, I think I mistook his book tour for his campaign time. I now remember that he hadn't technically announced at that time, but everyone knows that book tours are the soft-opening of campaigns these days.

Too prove that I don't have a bone to pick with you and the rest of your lot, her's a cute gif of the Mayor.

Sanders is unaccomplished??? Educate yourself. I'm not even as far left as he is and even I can concede he's the most accomplished candidate in legislating terms. Also he served as a mayor which he won as an independent candidate and the reforms he introduced to the city are still in effect. He doesn't need to commission polling there to tell us, he is beloved there. They elected a Marxist who didn't even have a political party three times.

I blocked 3 posts in this thread and 25 posts disappeared. Slow your roll, Borishka.

R42, no he isn't. Not at all. What has Sanders accomplished in the Senate that is so great? Nothing of note except for maybe one significant piece of legislation. Biden accomplished FAR more in the senate than Bernie has. So Bernie likes to talk and listen--what else is new? This is what got him kicked out of a damn commune! If all you can do is talk and listen, but not pass any significant legislation on a federal level, that proves you are not suitable for the presidency. And if he gets the nomination, watch out. The media will destroy him.

[quote] It doesn't matter, [R20]. He's not qualified. And he won't get the nomination. And if he doesn't get considerably more experience, he will never get the nomination, so if you like him, encourage him to enter politics some other way. He could get into the cabinet or be appointed a Consul or some other Executive position. it would allow him to run elsewhere and win. Or, if he does well, end up as a VP on a future ticket and then run.

Jesus you are dim, r36. Perhaps Pete should host the Celebrity Apprentice!? As mayor he is far more qualified than Trump. Fuck off with your faux division thread. You are too stupid to live

R44 I’d say Biden got even more done as VP because he was Obama’s fall back option when the staff couldn’t make an agreement happen. As the President of th Senate, I actually like using a VP in that manner.

I’ll say this, if Pete is the nominee, he will raise a Tom of cash!

If we nominate Bloomberg, we will have a mountain of cash at our disposal. Either way, I’m not concerned about who gets the nomination, I think this time all the haters will fall in line. Like we did in 2018.

R46, I think it will be Biden and I'm fine with that. No, I don't like him voting for Iraq but I do blame the Republicans (mostly) for that one. Anyways, he is very accomplished and you're right, he was an excellent VP. According to some people, he (and Pelosi, of course) was instrumental in getting Democrats united on passing it. And people remember him fondly because of his VP days.

Side note: I love how it is so obvious Pelosi cannot stand ACA. It's like ACA is the know-it-all, self-righteous student and Pelosi is the well-experienced adult who knows better.

ACA?

Oy.

DOH! Meant to say AOC.

r47 no one with 2 working Brian cells should like the ACA now that we are entering into the 20’s. It was the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell if healthcare compromises. Progress for the time, but enough today. Biden isn’t even for a Public Options, he doesn’t want to risk his political capital. It makes sense since he still has the scares from the Obama years, but the ACA always seemed like a temporary solution doomed to force Dems to go further.

That said, I can accept Biden’s Obama’s 2.0 administration. I expect nothing from him beyond the critical Supreme Court picks.

Call it now, we have 2 great gay candidates running by 2024 or 2026!

[quote]Sanders is unaccomplished??? Educate yourself. I'm not even as far left as he is and even I can concede he's the most accomplished candidate in legislating terms.

[quote]So Bernie likes to talk and listen

Link, please, for the latter

R52, you're right, DEFINITELY more of the former than the latter. Hence his getting kicked out of the commune. And for the person above complaining about the ACA? Screw you. It was the best we could do at the time and we need to build on it or improve it. Sorry that your perfection politics aren't working though.