Fred Arminson can not be normal.

He's a freak who mentally/emotionally abuses women, OP. It's well documented on Jizzabel and similar blogs; just google it.

He is Armisen.

R1

He is losing interest in his partners really fast and constatly cheats. It's shitty, but abuse? Really?

Do they have sex with each other?

R4

Lol. She is so out of his league, it's insane. But they were together for five years.

Why should I care who he is living with? I really don't.

They still are together R5.

R7

Yeah, seems like it. Her last ig post is about him.

He does not seem like a sexual being to me. I can't visualize him having sex with man or woman. I liken it to trying to visualize your parents getting it on. Ew. Just ew.

R3, point taken... I don't mean to trivialize physical abuse or anything like that. But the online warnings from women who have been with him are a bit more than, "He was shitty to me." It's more like, "STAY AWAY FROM HIM!!! PLEASE I BEG WITH YOU WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING!!!" So, I don't know exactly what dude is up to, but...

Physical abuse? I’ve never read anything about that.

You misread my post, R11, or I was not clear enough. No one here-- or anywhere, as far as I know-- is accusing Armisen of physical abuse. I said in my first post that he was alleged to have been mentally and emotionally abusive. R3 replied that the word "abusive" might be taking it too far, since no one has accused him of *physical* abuse. I agreed to consider that, but said that the warnings I've seen have nevertheless been alarming.

That's it.

R10

Most of it is anonymous comments, now deleted from the net. This famous Fred Armisen has a reputation article on Gawker, written by Jordan Sargent, of all people. Author of infamous article that pretty much destroyed Gawker (among other things). This guy is a hack who helped crazy ex porn star blackmail private citizen. He would've sell his soul for a scandal.

Elisabeth Moss' comments are amazing though. Terrific burn. But it's obvious she was madly in love with him, and he just wasn't. It's sad, but not a crime.

Elisabeth Moss isn't normal either. She was born into a cult and is still a member. I'm sure she is just as weird as Fred is.

Knew Fred in the late 90's right before SNL. He was always "on" but that was okay because he was (usually) funny. Also fucked then dumped dozens of women just in the short time I knew him. Strange fellow but was always nice to me.

Lots of Koreans took, or were forced to take, Japanese names when Korea was a colony of Japan. The grandfather became a famous choreographer during the war. There are about 2 million Koreans in Japan today who have Japanese names but Korean ancestry. They are called "jeil kyopo" in Korean or "zainichi kankokujin" in Japanese.

That said, I hate Fred Armisen and don't care who he is fucking.

I have no idea why his family history makes him not normal. He's weird on his own.

R15

So he was a slut even before he was famous? Really? And women was attracted to him?

He's really funny in Documentary Now!

R19

Yes! This show is amazing. I loved him in "Juan loves chicken and rice" episode. It was a serious acting, and he was surprisingly terrific.

I actually also liked him on SNL. He was fearless performer, and i loved his gay chemistry with Will Forte. I remember at least three sketches with them fucking.

[R15]

Yeah, he had an intensity and goofy charisma. He'd focus on a woman, be alternately silly jokey and super serious, and use these little seduction tricks (like using their name a lot.). Then he'd go info the kill and fuck them, dump them, ghost them. At the time, these girls weren't A-listers (mostly waitresses or aspiring whatevers) but all were out of his league. Gotta admit, Freddy was very impressive in his sociopathy.

I knew him before fame. Yes girls liked him. He’s supposedly got a big penis.

R22

People are using this word very easy those days. He sounds like a slut, maybe intimacy issues, but sociopath? Really?

I pride myself on my gaydar, but I cannot see Fred fucking a woman. I am shocked he likes women.

This was Elizabeth Moss's assessment:

[quote]“One of the greatest things I heard someone say about him is, ‘He’s so great doing impersonations. But the greatest impersonation he does is that of a normal person.’ To me, that sums it up,” the Mad Men actress, 29, tells Page Six Magazine.

^ Two mental mutts made for each other

R26 R27

She has crazy eyes. She is a devoted scieno, and she's a good actress, but there is something unsettling about her. But i do feel sorry for her in this marriage. She loved him, and it seems like he started cheating right after the marriage. He talked about Elisabeth with Howard Stern, and it seems like he never really loved her.

I cant stand him. He's the opposite of funny. I want to slap tje smug right off his smirking face

I wish i could find old sketch from SNL, where Fred and Will Forte were playing two robots, and Will was fucking Fred in the ass so hard his head was hitting the door. It was insane. I still remember the audience groaning and laughing nervously. Old sketch with Will reviewing their sextape is definitely online. Those two really were something on SNL.

[quote]She has crazy eyes. She is a devoted scieno, and she's a good actress, but there is something unsettling about her. But i do feel sorry for her in this marriage. She loved him, and it seems like he started cheating right after the marriage. He talked about Elisabeth with Howard Stern, and it seems like he never really loved her.

There was anti-Scieno blog several years ago where a few people claimed that they infiltrated Celebrity Centre in LA. One of their claims was that Moss is bipolar. I can't remember the blog's title, but it was discussed here on DL. The blog was scrubbed from the Internet shortly after the post about Moss.

I think I saw him in drag on the street in broad daylight near The Strand in New York City.

R30 you mean home-bots

R33

No. It was the old sketch, and Will Forte and Fred were fucking in the end. I think Julia Louis-Dreyfus was in it as robot's owner.

They also played BDSM couple in cold open with Nancy Pelosi. Fred was the ashtray. It's on YouTube. Unfortunately i can't post links.

For much of his life, Fred had incorrectly thought his paternal grandfather to have been Japanese; his grandfather was actually born in Ulsan, Korea, and had adopted a Japanese name and persona after the massacre of Koreans in 1923 when he was a high school student.

Japan ruled Korea as a colony before the end of WWII. There were many Japanese who were born in Korea and many Koreans born in Japan

To this day, Koreans and Japanese are mostly cordial at best

I love the "Women found him attractive?" comments...

Surprise, women aren't nearly as shallow and simple as most gay men. Some women need to be fulfilled in more ways than just abs and coiffed hair. I'm a gay man and would totally go out with Fred Armisen. I think he's funny and so odd, it's attractive. I've always like weirdly funny guys, which, unfortunately, turn out to be straight in my experience.

He is clever. And judging by his comedy, he is a very good observer of human character.

I do wonder how his relationship with Natasha works. Is it open? She's fine with his cheating? Or he cleaned his act? Can you cure sex addiction?

He's brilliantly talented. I loved him in "Documentary Now' and 'Portlandia'.

I think he is pretty talented as a musician. Songs in musical episodes of Documentary Now are very catchy and good. Their Talking Heads episode is very good.

R39 did you watch Forever with Maya Rudolf? I liked it; Wondering what others on here thought about it

I am watching old snl episodes, and this guy is impressive. In one of the episodes he played parrot, and it was genius.

Speaking of Forever, i do question his relationship with Maya Rudolph. They pitched Forever only because they wanted to work together. In NYT profile she said that being with him is pretty much her favorite thing in the world. It's strange to see such a friendship between two heterosexuals. Especially considering his slutty ways.

Fred is funny!

I wish to God Seth Meyers would stop doing the bits with Fred on Seth's show. Fred must have a huge piece of Seth's show and a solid contract. The bits are NEVER funny. Torture. And that's odd because Fred knows how to make funny snarky TV.

The characters he plays in Portlandia are hard for me to watch. Not because he does them badly but because they cut too close to the bone. They are only slightly off real people, which is sorta genius. But I've known too many of those people in real life and can't stand them. (I regret every moment I've spent in their presence and any tolerance I've extended them.)

The parody he and Bill Hader did on Documentary Now of Grey Gardens was one of the funniest things I have ever seen.

Documentary Now is a masterpiece.

Wtf?

R47 That was the only episode I really liked. The rest were meh.

R47 That was the only episode I really liked. The rest were meh.

R51

I disagree. After watching all seasons seceral times, this episode doesn't really stand out for me. I loved their musical episodes and Juan loves rice and chicken. And of course, Marina Abramovich one, with Kate Blanchett and Fred playing himself.

Genuine question - is it possible for a sociopath in personal life to be a good and loving friend and nice person in general? This guy is a friend with so many strong and interesting women - it's so strange considering his reputation of a sociopath who loves hurting women.

He strikes me as someone who gets off on making fun of people. Right to their faces for as long as he can get away with it.

He has mastered subtlety and nuance.

I hope to never meet him. I’m sure I would feel like I’m being studied and appreciated.

R54

I think like the only true mean impression of his is Gene Simmons from Kiss. It was spot on and scary. But i get what you are saying. People like that scare me.

Cacao!

I never fuck this cat. He's funny tho.

On Kevin Nealon's blog walks he had Fred Arimsen on and they ran into Dana Carvey and Carvey was rude to Fred and started snoring when Fred was talking.

R57

Wow, they did one of my favorite sketches together. Embrace me during super bowl.

R41

I watched the show, i think it was very good. But it's more Maya's show. Did you like Fred's performance?

I liked that DN episode about the making of a broadway soundtrack--I think it was. Funny as hell.

He also dated Diane Neal.

I actually read that his family was working for the Nazis. He lived in Brazil for years. You have to give it to him, guy had an insane life.

I love his Prince impersonation.

he briefly married a scientologist

nuff said

he must have more than a big cock

cause he is major fug and creepy ola….

married eliz moss, scientol !! good god

Natasha…...run!!!!

R63

He even looks different.

[quote]He'd focus on a woman, be alternately silly jokey and super serious, and use these little seduction tricks (like using their name a lot.). Then he'd go info the kill and fuck them, dump them, ghost them.

This is more than slutty, quirky behavior. It's straight up text book sociopathy. Charm bombing, then gas lighting, and finally ghosting are all HUGE red flags. He obviously hates women. I wonder who he's punishing over and over again---for decades, with hundreds of women. Probably Mommy?

Lots of women will ignore warnings about men like this creep. Because they like to fantasize that they're special and superior to other women. Only 'they' have the power to tame him and get him to change. They are competitive and envious with other women. If they can hold on to a difficult man, they feel like they won something.

Narcissistic and BPD women are drawn to these assholes-- over and over. And then act confused when they get the same treatment every other woman gets. Not so special after all.

R68

Really? I am not arguing with you, there is something wrong with this guy. He did talk about how he never gets nervous, he said he doesnt have human emotions, those are red flags. Things you talk about are just a tricks of a seductive person.

lol, complicated? maybe not. Take SoftBank's founder, Masayoshi Son, a second generation Korean in Japan, a role model for Korean Japanese. But back to Korea, Son's family was actually traced back to Chinese.

[quote]Things you talk about are just a tricks of a seductive person.

Treating people like garbage? Making them doubt themselves and their sanity/judgement? Leaving them devastated because they fell for all the lies and manipulation? Getting off on humiliating people?

You think that's normal?

R72

None of those things were mentioned in the post you quoted. How do you know all those things?

Fred and Tina Fey? Old sighting from 2010 from Page Six.

[quote] Tina Fey and Fred Armisen with their kids in the Tecumseh Playground at 77th and Amsterdam, where witnessess buzzed over Fey trying to go unrecognized in sunglasses and a wool cap and “Fred Armisen was dressed as Fred Armisen, but no one was buzzing about him.”[/quote]

OP, you missed the best part. His grandfather worked for Nazi Germany and Japan at the same time.

R74 "their kids"? Armisen's wikipedia article doesn't mention any children.

R76

Yeah, that was strange. Maybe they meant her husband?

Lol, Aubrey Plaza worked on SNL in design department when she was 19-20, and she was obsessed with him. She talked about it on WTF podcast. She was stealing his sketches and basically was stalking him.

Why SNL men are so fucked up? Pete Davidson is another crazy slut.

Because, R79, it takes an enormous amount of swagger and confidence to survive the cutthroat world of comedy—epitomized by the SNL pressure cooker. Normal people often can’t deal with the insanity of it. Narcissists and sociopaths thrive on it.

One of my favorite comedic actresses, Catherine O’Hara, was hired by SNL in the early 80s. She left after about a week. She said she just couldn’t take cutthroat environment. She has more talent in her little finger than Ivy League boy Colin Jost has in his whole body, but look who survived AND got the Weekend Update anchor spot.

R80

But Bill Hader, who is a very sweet and decent guy, was the star of SNL. I am sure there are other perfectly decent snl stars. I never heard anything bad about Tina Fey or Dratch or Will Ferrell or Dana Carvey.

Also i am not sure Davidson is actually surviving SNL. He's never on and when he is on, he's terrible. At least Armisen is a workhorse.

Agrees R81. Some normal people succeed. But I think it also depends on the particular mix of people on the show at any given time. And who’s in charge the writer’s room.

They used to call Phil Hartman “the glue” who held SNL together in the late 80s/early 90s. He always was portrayed as a great, normal guy. Then I watched the 20/20 special earlier this year, when they interviewed some of the women in his life (including his ex-wife before he took up with drug-addled, crazy Brynn). And quite a different picture emerged: namely, a passive-aggressive jerk.

R82

What? I loved Phil Hartman, and i remember reading thread about this special or about his kids, and thinking - Of course. There was supposed to be something wrong.

R83 I agree with R82 I loved Phil Hartman, but after watching the 20/20 special, I feel the same way as R82.

I read thread about Phil Hartman's documentary, and it seems like he and Fred were very similar in the way they treated women.

I must say that it's interesting how Armisen gets labeled as a sociopath and basically metoo-ed for being a whore who fucks a lot and doesn't like commitment, and someone like Michelle Williams with history of cheating and broken marriages is just a little messy.

I had no idea he also dated Janeane Garofalo.

[quote]and someone like Michelle Williams with history of cheating and broken marriages is just a little messy.

That's because women are portrayed as eternal victims in our culture. Ironically, that is eagerly taken up by many feminists, despite the fact that the "helpless female" is one of the prime rationalizations for women being subordinate to men.

I have to give it to him, he was a good Bloomberg. Even more so in his old seasons, when writing on SNL was decent.

He has eyes of a serial killer.

What women see in him? He's dating Natasha Lyonne, who is talented, rich, succesful, attractive. And she's with that ugly whore.